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Swisher in, Granderson out

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 17, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ichiro Suzuki LF
Nick Swisher RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Raul Ibanez DH
Eric Chavez 3B
Russell Martin C
Brett Gardner CF
Eduardo Nunez SS

LHP CC Sabathia

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249 Responses to “Swisher in, Granderson out”

  1. NYY_Girl_Penny October 17th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Insane

  2. djsunyc October 17th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    yankees getting gangsta with arod…wow

  3. Yankees_Fan October 17th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Really stunned no A-Rod in this win-or-else game. Shocking!

  4. NYY_Girl_Penny October 17th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    I think these moves are gonna backfire

  5. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    As much as I’ve criticized Swisher, I like him in the 2 hole here compared to the other options. Ichiro batting leadoff works for me too.

    A-Rod is probably done for the year with the Tigers staff so predominately right handed

  6. Bronx Jeers October 17th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    How is Granderson supposed to get the Yankee postseason strikeout record (26 by A. Soriano) if he doesn’t play?

    Not fair!

  7. blake October 17th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    @WheresKernan: ARod has been voted off the island by #Yankees management

    Chavez is 0 for the playoffs

  8. Frozen Rope II October 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Scherzer owns the yankees. Line up won’t mather

  9. Frozen Rope II October 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Scherzer owns the yankees. Line up won’t matter.

  10. yankfan1 October 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    yeah this isnt a baseball move. chavez has looked worse than Arod. Arod probably seeing his last days in pin stripes.

  11. Captain Clutch October 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    It’s obvious that the Yanks are trying to prove a point to Arod….beyond not hitting in the post season. Why and what are they trying to prove?! No one knows but we will eventually find out. I think it’s obvious at this point that something is going him between him Girardi and Cashman.

  12. Jerkface October 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Max has the kind of nasty right handed stuff that would eat up A-rod, so I get benching him.

  13. Tabbert October 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    NOW… this is a good lineup. Damn i Like Ichiro, Gardy, Nunez, in that lineup together. Gardy Gives you very good Ab’s, takes a lot of pitches, tons of speed, and nunie and ichi give you solid contact guys with solid speed.

    We really need chavez to get it together for this to work out properly. Other than that…. I like this lineup a lot.

  14. mikenyy19 October 17th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    this lineup is awful. I supported Girardi previously, not anymore. Even if they win somehow, this lineup doesn’t make any sense. If you’re not going to bunt or hit/run with Ichiro/gardner, what is the point? This is a hard throwing pitcher. I do not understand.

  15. Mordot11 October 17th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    The Yankees are going to be selling so low on ARod. He’d better be in the national league or he is going to murder the Yankees next year.

  16. RMS October 17th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Arod will not be on this team next year.

    Replacing him with Chavez who hasn’t gotten a hit and has struck out a lot is a slap in the face to Arod.

  17. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Yeah if Chavez was hitting I could understand it but there is more than just on-field performance going into this decision. We won’t even be able to see if Kobe’s pep talk worked!

  18. djsunyc October 17th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    it’s almost like they gave their reason for arod not playing against a quality right hander and they’re going to stick to it. the problem is that chavez hasn’t hit anything (although he did have some good swings). at this rate, they should play nunez AND nix and sit chavez too.

  19. JobaTipsHisCap October 17th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    bye bye, Arod

  20. djsunyc October 17th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    if this truly is the end of arod in pinstripes…what a way to go out…unreal…

  21. Don October 17th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    Was the Granderson trade a bust: see this article http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10.....g-run.html

  22. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    I got a hit against Max in corkball with my brother and his friends one time. I was probably 1-100 against Max but sign me up!

  23. YES October 17th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Chavez 0-14 with 6 strikeouts & an error, but no Arod?

    Binder Joe & Cashman will be back next yr. no matter what. Good luck with that.

  24. tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Mr. MTU,
    As are you, I’m an Early Riser. That’s why I’m more likely to spill my Early Times after dark. Only eat oatmeal shortly before dawn. Miss GB7 a lot.

  25. blake October 17th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    @AndrewMarchand: Source: Yanks, Marlins may talk A-Rod deal http://t.co/cjS24CyN Likely only place he would waive no-trade

  26. Irreverent Discourse October 17th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Marchand late to the party as usual.

  27. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Tom-

    Many of us do.

  28. Bronx Jeers October 17th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    This has to be the strangest end to a Yankee season ever.

    Here’s to not having it end tonight. Go Yanks.

  29. champ809 October 17th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Exactly how i would’ve made out the lineup tonight…Gardner has been a much better hitter in the #8/#9 spot in his career than in the #1 hole and I like the idea of bunching up all the speed guys in Gardy, Nuney and Ichiro once the lineup turnsover

  30. tucker October 17th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Chavez at least has been competitive at the plate. Last night, he worked two 3-ball counts. Better than ARod’s at bats. The move makes sense. ARod has no ability right now to catch up to Scherzer’s fastball.

  31. blake October 17th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Darling just said it was shocking and dismaying how flat the Yanks were in the dugout during Ibanez’s AB….everyone was sitting down

  32. djsunyc October 17th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4RjJKxsamQ

  33. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    Irreverent Discourse October 17th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Marchand late to the party as usual.

    ———————

    I can’t stand him.

  34. Captain Clutch October 17th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Chavez isn’t the better option right now. He hasn’t looked good at the plate at all. His only good swing was when he pinch hit for Arod in I believe game 2 and had a really good swing and it was almost a double into the gap but AJax just caught it.

    I have a feeling the Yanks will meet with Arod this off season and and read him the rules. Basically he is a DH against lefties, bat off the bench. They are going to hope someone will talk him or he will retire after next year. But It obvious they want him gone.

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Down 3-0, there’s no better sight than Big C on the mound.

    And how about Nunez in the lineup on consecutive days? Better late than never, and we’re just about on the edge of never. Hopefully, C gets the support he deserves and the team rallies.

    YES: your money, unsentimental posts are noted, and appreciated, by me.

  36. Nick in SF October 17th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Is this the lineup or the list of pallbearers?

  37. champ809 October 17th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    I actually think this lineup pushes across 5 runs tonight and and we get the win

  38. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    I was really hoping that guys like Ibanez, Ichiro, Kuroda, and Chavez would wind up with rings this year.

    Especially our 2 Japanese warriors who have never had the honor.

  39. MaxyC October 17th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    Yankees are stating that the ARod era is finished.

  40. Captain Clutch October 17th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    I can’t see the Yanks paying all of Arod’s contract to get rid of him. If it was $30m yes but definitely not over $100m. That would be insane and they wouldn’t even do that.

  41. djsunyc October 17th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    ichiro + kuroda both performed big time this postseason.

    i wonder what kind of deals they would ask for.

  42. MaxyC October 17th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Damn. The Tigers are just b-slapping the Yankees around. No respect whatsoever, with Verlander already talking about the World Series. Can the Yankees at least respond with some fight, and no be swept for the first time since 1980?

  43. Irreverent Discourse October 17th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    The predictive power of recent performance has been exhaustively studied — there’s a nice collection of studies here, though I haven’t read the book the blog is promoting — and the empirical data all points to the fact that recent performance data tells us almost nothing about future performance. The Yankees have a living breathing example of this phenomenon in Robinson Cano, who went 24 for 39 in his final nine regular season games but is 3 for 36 in the postseason. We can read all these studies, we can know all the facts, and yet, at the same time, we can just not care.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....he-recent/

  44. Tabbert October 17th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    People keep saying ” chavez is playing just as bad as arod… so why not play arod”

    So… Because they are both playing equally as bad, arod should get the nod? Horrible logic. Alex is toast. The dude cant catch up to ANYTHING…. much less another hard thrower. Also… Management is tired of Alex and I would be shocked if he plays again even if we win a couple more games.

  45. kd October 17th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    kinda tells you what they think of granderson and arod now

    they need players who grind out at bats. shame

  46. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    djsunyc October 17th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    ichiro + kuroda both performed big time this postseason.

    i wonder what kind of deals they would ask for.

    ——————–

    Ich probably 4-5 mil. Kuroda back at 10 mil

  47. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Scutaro is on fire right now. .545 this series.

  48. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Tabbert October 17th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    People keep saying ” chavez is playing just as bad as arod… so why not play arod”

    So… Because they are both playing equally as bad, arod should get the nod? Horrible logic. Alex is toast. The dude cant catch up to ANYTHING…. much less another hard thrower. Also… Management is tired of Alex and I would be shocked if he plays again even if we win a couple more games.

    ========

    It’s an elimination game. In that situation all hands on deck.

  49. MaxyC October 17th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    At least the 2001 Yank teams, as old as they were and on their last legs, fought until the final out and took Arizona, a team with Randy Johnson and Curt Shilling, to the brink. At least they went out with some pride and fight. This Yank team exhibits none of these qualities.

  50. Captain Clutch October 17th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Granderson has struck out in half of his at bats this post season. That is really insane.

  51. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    AAO-

    You’re way low on Suzuki IMO.

    I’d grab him in a heartbeat if he would play another year for us at that price.

  52. NYY_Girl_Penny October 17th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    I dont like the benching of arod.. Nor do i like girardi or the steinbrenners… The entire team and owners are going down the drain.

  53. joeman October 17th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    So Fran says Arod is all done in NY…bit of a reach but I will lean his way…

  54. Tabbert October 17th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    I thought more people would be excited about this lineup. We finally have a bunch of speedy/contact hitters in the lineup. Personally I think this is a much more versatile offense. Grandy and Arod lead the team in strikeouts so far in the playoffs… so its great to take all of that out of the lineup.

  55. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    MTU October 17th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    AAO-

    You’re way low on Suzuki IMO.

    I’d grab him in a heartbeat if he would play another year for us at that price.

    ———————

    I think it’s reasonable given his age and place on the team.

  56. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    If Nunez and Gardy can cause some trouble, and Robi’s oppo hit last night broke the bad spell, they will put up some runs against Scherzer.

    I would have played Grandy, though, in this one, because it’s Scherzer.

  57. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    I think the people who are declaring that A-Rod is done forever in NY are greatly underestimating how hard it is going to be to get rid of him…

  58. joeman October 17th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Tabbert October 17th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    I thought more people would be excited about this lineup. We finally have a bunch of speedy/contact hitters in the lineup. Personally I think this is a much more versatile offense. Grandy and Arod lead the team in strikeouts so far in the playoffs… so its great to take all of that out of the lineup.

    ————————————————
    got to get on base to use your speed and that seems something that not being done

  59. Captain Clutch October 17th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    It’s funny how they spent $200m on an offense and they want the cheap fast contact guys in a must win game. You can’t score runs if you can’t make contact and can only hit homeruns. 4-5 homerun guys are nice but they need some speed and more contact. Almost like how the Angels were built a couple of years ago.

  60. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    The one good thing about Max is that he usually throws a lot of pitches. Only went 5.1 in Oakland although he was pretty dominant. Also had a bit of shoulder fatigue at the end of the year. The Yanks best chance is against the Detroit bullpen which they could see fairly early tonight. Scherzer can’t go 132 like Verlander.

  61. YES October 17th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Cashman put together this bloated all or nothing lineup.

    Their troubles hitting RISP have been well documented all season. They either hit home runs or don’t score many runs. Its been this teams downfall of the last few post seasons. Everyone knew the team would struggle once they faced the tops teams & their better pitchers in the post season.

    Yet, he we sit with a team that has scored in only 2 out of 30 innings.

    Cashman did nothing to address their short comings during the trading period with the exception of acquiring Ichiro who Seattle wanted to dump.

    Why the organization settles for this guys lazy & mediocre job performance is baffling.

  62. 86w183 October 17th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    This is a middle finger at A-Rod from Girardi, assumably with Cashman’s permission.

    Talk about your messy divorces… it’ll make A-Rod’s actual divorce look like a honeymoon….. gonna be really ugly unless they can do a contract swap with the Marlins….

  63. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    AAO-

    You might but I’d be pleasantly surprised if Ichiro did.

    He’s hit well over .300 since came over. Played excellent defense and
    still has some speed left.

    I think we’d still see quite a bit of that for 1 more year.

    To my mind that isn’t 5 mil.

    I’d love to see it.

  64. joeman October 17th, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    I think the people who are declaring that A-Rod is done forever in NY are greatly underestimating how hard it is going to be to get rid of him…

    —————————————————————
    as stated..Arod was pinched hit for and not starting the last two game with him being healthy …damage is done …If they want him out of here they will figure something out

  65. JobaTipsHisCap October 17th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    the entire organization needs to improve IQ.
    they are just stupid, plain and simple.

  66. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    86-

    Just curious.

    What sort of contract swap could you see ?

  67. Tidrow October 17th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    It’s amazing that it’s taken the so called Yankee brain trust this long to figure out speed and on base potential and grind it out attitude is more conducive to victory in the post season that an all or nothing, high strikeout, base to base team. Sad thing is that the architect of this sinking ship of a team (Cashman) will not have to answer to anyone for this epic failure. What a joke.

  68. Patrick October 17th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Why does every lineup decision have to be an insult to A-rod or some other player? Girardi is just trying to win a game and find a lineup that will score some freaking runs. It’s not all about A-rod. So stupid

  69. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    MTU October 17th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    AAO-

    You might but I’d be pleasantly surprised if Ichiro did.

    He’s hit well over .300 since came over. Played excellent defense and
    still has some speed left.

    I think we’d still see quite a bit of that for 1 more year.

    To my mind that isn’t 5 mil.

    I’d love to see it.

    ————————–

    So would I

  70. pat October 17th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    Bowa- “Yankees have some speed in their line-up now they just have to figure out how to steal 1st base”

  71. joeman October 17th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    there’s no contract swap I could think of anywhere…this may have to be a re-do contract and then a goodbye

  72. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    LOVE the lineup!

    Let’s Go Yankees!!!

  73. blake October 17th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    “This is a middle finger at A-Rod from Girardi, assumably with Cashman’s permission.”

    Considering Chavez is 0 for the playoffs and made a crucial error last night it sure seems that way

  74. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    I like re-signing Ichiro, he can do some things.

    But, he’s a support player. Too many older, “complementary” bats around here.

  75. blake October 17th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    Yanks win 4-2 tonight

  76. djsunyc October 17th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    ichiro would provide a fantastic stopgap OF…

  77. JobaTipsHisCap October 17th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Yanks lose tonight to end their miserable postseason.

  78. joeman October 17th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    it will cost them a huge amount of money to get rid of Arod and I believe it will happen

  79. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    i dont care about arod, i think you’re probably right though, i think we may have already seen arod’s last at bat as a yankee (wouldnt surprise me to see him left off the WS roster)

    but that’s all for another time. i like the team that’s taking the field tonight, i LOVE the starter and i want to see him hand the ball to pettitte.

  80. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    JobaTipsHisCap October 17th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Yanks lose tonight to end their miserable postseason.

    ———————–

    And then the real fun begins

  81. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    joeman October 17th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
    Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    I think the people who are declaring that A-Rod is done forever in NY are greatly underestimating how hard it is going to be to get rid of him…

    —————————————————————
    as stated..Arod was pinched hit for and not starting the last two game with him being healthy …damage is done …If they want him out of here they will figure something out
    ————————————————————-

    This has already been discussed a lot on here but working something out for him is not going to be simple. They can’t afford to pay a huge chunk of his salary to go somewhere else. And that would also likely entail taking on other bad salaries from that team (like the Marlins). It’s not going to be easy. He definitely seems to be in hot water though that’s for sure.

  82. austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    One has to presume and hope the lineup is about the best chance to win. If anything else is a factor, they all should be fired. I think AROD should play irrespective of how bad he has looked. Chavez is worse. They need him to win.

  83. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Tidrow, YES: Hal does not know baseball, hence, he sees 95 wins and an ALDS victory over Baltimore and assumes everything is “fine.”

    He wouldn’t be alone in those assumptions, either. I don’t expect anything of substance to happen. They’ll fire Long as a scapegoat. That’s probably the end of it.

  84. pat October 17th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    PeteAbe
    Cashman just indicated that A-Rod, for now, would hit only against lefthanders.

  85. Tidrow October 17th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    ARod to Dodgers for Carl Crawford. Do it in a heartbeat.

  86. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    underdog city!!! this is gonna be GREAT!!!!!

    Let’s Go Yankees!!!!

  87. Captain Clutch October 17th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    Cashman’s point is if you don’t perform you aren’t playing. He doesn’t care how much Arod makes. Simple as that.

  88. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Captain Clutch October 17th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    Cashman’s point is if you don’t perform you aren’t playing

    ——————–

    Cano says hi.

  89. Warning Track Power October 17th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    i’m sure i’m not alone here, but i’m beginning to think that
    ARod is being benched because he was flirting with those
    girls during the baseball game and not because he’s in the middle
    of a slump
    why?
    because Chavy has not done anything that would keep him in the line-up so far.

  90. joeman October 17th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    pat October 17th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
    PeteAbe
    Cashman just indicated that A-Rod, for now, would hit only against lefthanders.
    —————————-
    not in a Yankee uniform..hate to say it but this season for them is over tonight

  91. austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Ichiro, IMO, worthless as it is would not get more than $5 million from anyone. He has played well, but he is a corner OF with no power and declining speed and arm. He hit .270 the last two years.

    He may be needed next year, but pay for the 39 year old version.

  92. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    underdog city!!! this is gonna be GREAT!!!!!

    ————————

    Not when it’s 4-0 in the 9th and Valverde is dancing around.

  93. joeman October 17th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    unless of course he pinch hits tonight

  94. 86w183 October 17th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Alex Rodriguez, Eduardo Nunez, David Phelps for Jose Reyes and Heath Bell

    IF Jeter will go to 3B…. if not,

    for Buehrle and Bell

  95. fantasygame101 October 17th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    at least an interesting offseason is brewing. But the one person that they need to make sure will not accept their one yr offer is swisher so he should not be in the lineup too. Their lineup decision is more interesting that their performance, that is sad.

  96. sunny615 October 17th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    No thanks.

  97. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    This is where the Yankees utterly lose me.

    They got rid of an elite upside bat so they could accommodate Alex, etc, at DH. Never mind the argument that you simply let the best hitter decide who is the DH – you HAVE to give Alex only half-days – not full days off – to justify his enormous salary.

    Fast forward to the postseason. Alex is suddenly out of the lineup for the two most important games of the year.

    So now, it’s ok to give Alex full days off.

    Oh, okay.

  98. Tabbert October 17th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    Chavez might be 0 for whatever… but he is not 3 pitches and out like Grandy and Arod. Gardy is one of our best hitters because he sees the most pitches. I don’t care if Gardy goes 0-4 when he has long AB’s and gets the pitch count up.

  99. sunny615 October 17th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    If the Yanks didn’t trade NunEz for Cliff Lee, he’s not going for Buehrle and Bell (who sucks BTW).

  100. syd_cash October 17th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    my problems with the line up….Swisher batting second (yeah that’s going to get him to start hitting) was also hoping to never see Swisher in a Yankee uniform…..and I’d rather have A-rod in then Chavez who also has no hits this series and A-rod plays better at 3rd.

  101. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    predict doom all you want, i say this series is going back to the big apple!

  102. joeman October 17th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    this will be one crazy off season…

  103. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Poor short sample. Guys got cold at the wrong time. This is not who they are – Cashman

    SMH same bs we said he would say

  104. austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Typically, I would say treating a player like this would harm relations with other prospective players, but maybe others playing are chuckling. He never seems to do well in popularity.

  105. G. Love October 17th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    We actually can’t trade Arod for Crawford because the Red Sox put that ridiculous clause in his contract that he can never be dealt to the Yankees.

    I have no idea how they could enforce that, but I’d happily take Crawford for Arod. You may even get me to OK taking Beckett back too if they allow fans to punch him in the face in the Great Hall before home games.

    As for Arod, this is the death rattle as a Yankee. They want him gone and they will do what they need to make it happen.

    That being said, Arod’s not the reason this team is not hitting in the post season and using him to deflect is almost textbook Cashman.

  106. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    prices havent started dropping for saturday’s game 6 yet, still starting at about $60. but i’m watching because i plan to be there.

  107. Don Vito A. Bellamo October 17th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    CC, Andy both will shut down the Tigers and the law of averages will create the needed offense for the next 2 nights. Then back at Yankee Stadium, you have to like Kuroda and CC in games 6 and 7 IF we can extend it that far…..if the BoSux could come back from 3-0….SO CAN WE !!! :-)

  108. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    blake October 17th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    Yanks win 4-2 tonight
    ///

    Sure, why not. We have the better arm going, and Nunez is getting another start.

  109. G. Love October 17th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    And for the record, I like this lineup just like I liked last night’s lineup. If we go down fighting with the right guys so be it.

    We win tonight and I put all my faith in Pettitte to get us back to NY.

  110. tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Ys,
    Amen.

  111. austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    AAO,

    Yep, that will be the offseason excuse for not doing anything. Bad luck, bad timing. Does he believe that or is it simply a justication for not spending?

  112. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    but i’m watching because i plan to be there.

    ———————–

    You’re going to be the only one there. Ys Guy I admire your heart but c’mon now this team is not taking it to game six.

  113. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    AAO,

    Yep, that will be the offseason excuse for not doing anything. Bad luck, bad timing. Does he believe that or is it simply a justication for not spending?

    ———————-

    It’s a combination of both. He seriously believes it and it justifies not spending money. Win-win for Cash and Co.

  114. Tabbert October 17th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    I suddenly feel good about getting back to new york. I could be wrong… but I have a good vibe again. I like this lineup a lot and I feel really good with CC and Andy on the mound the next two days. This lineup is versatile and can score runs. We really need Cano to step it up and hopefully get some production from chavi. All in all… I think we win tonight.

  115. tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    AAO,
    Yes, they are.

  116. austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Cashman is indicating AROD is in a slump, but doesn’t that mean they should give him, a regular, a chance to get out of it? Slumps end. By hitting.

  117. Don Vito A. Bellamo October 17th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    It’s NOT OVER ! Was it over when the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor ??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

  118. Nick in SF October 17th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    Ok, folks, pregame vows of victory aren’t enough for tonight’s game. I am typing this post from CC Country in Vallejo, CA. This is the field CC donated to the North Vallejo Little League. I make this pilgrimage today to offer up my humble support to CC in his efforts this evening. It’s the best I can do. Go CC and go Yankees.

  119. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    AAO,
    Yes, they are.

    —————

    I’d like to see it but it’s not going to happen.

  120. joeman October 17th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    Nick in SF October 17th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
    Ok, folks, pregame vows of victory aren’t enough for tonight’s game. I am typing this post from CC Country in Vallejo, CA. This is the field CC donated to the North Vallejo Little League. I make this pilgrimage today to offer up my humble support to CC in his efforts this evening. It’s the best I can do. Go CC and go Yankees.

    —————————————————
    CC will have to pitch a shut-out or very close to it for them to have a shot at winning this game…..

  121. NYY_Girl_Penny October 17th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    Thats not who these guys are? Uhh you been watching this team decline since ’09 and now with more rigorous drug tests… Cashman is FOS he knows he has to work on Hal to get anything done but if he cant he will play they are better than this card… But think the seats are empty now? Just wait until next year if they dont make drastic changes.

  122. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    That being said, Arod’s not the reason this team is not hitting in the post season and using him to deflect is almost textbook Cashman.

    ———————

    Classic Cash put the heat on someone else.

  123. Poetkiosk October 17th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    Very bizarre press conference by Cash

  124. Patrick October 17th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    Don Vito,

    The Tigers will score zero point zero runs tonight!

    zero… point… zero

  125. deleonj October 17th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    im really looking forward to the end of this series. cant wait to lose tonight.
    whatver you believe about arod is fine, but they are using him to deflect the problems of this team, they are humiliating him

    oh, cashman should be fired and so should the gutless girardi, who has to send cashman (the same guy who inherited the system in the late 90′s) to show face for him

  126. Yogi Mantle October 17th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    Maybe Cashman should have benched Giardi instead of Alex.

  127. willwill October 17th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    i wish trump could buy the yankees…He’s more steinbrenner than any of these scrubs

  128. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    Poetkiosk October 17th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    Very bizarre press conference by Cash

    —————–

    What made it bizarre?

  129. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    Lot’s of Yankee pitchers have been throwing near shutouts but it hasn’t helped.

    The O has to show up and stay online if they are to have any breath left.

    ;)

  130. pat October 17th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Cashman- “As long as you have the bat or ball in your hand you can change the story. Some guys will have to wait longer than others to do that.”

  131. tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    AAO,
    That’s why they play the games. We can, we should, and we will. Go, Yanks!

  132. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Poetkiosk October 17th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    Very bizarre press conference by Cash
    ///

    What’s the latest from our fearless leader?

  133. austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    What did Cashman say at the press conference?

  134. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Poetkiosk October 17th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    Very bizarre press conference by Cash
    ///

    What’s the latest from our fearless leader?

    —————–

    I’d like to see you vs.Cash like Romney vs. Obama.

  135. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    JAP-

    He’s suggesting you buy pork bellies.

    :)

  136. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    AAO,
    That’s why they play the games. We can, we should, and we will. Go, Yanks!

    ————————

    Go Yanks for at least a few more hours or yesterday at the latest.

  137. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    would trump hire a dirtbag detective to dig up dirt on jeter to avoid donating money to turn 2, like geroge did?

    would trump preside over the worst decade of yankees baseball like george did?

    would the yankees only win 2 WS in 26 seasons of trump running the team ‘his way’ like under george?

  138. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    What did Cashman say at the press conference?

    ——————

    I’m sure someone will pull up the quotes.

    Francesa said it felt like Cash was defending the regime.

    The GM stopped in to tell you he was making the line-up. He came in before Girardi. I never saw that before – Mike

  139. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    I’d like to see you vs.Cash like Romney vs. Obama.
    ///

    Come to Waterfront Park in Trenton next spring ;).

  140. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    cc wins tonight then gets the ketchup bottle ready for sunday?

  141. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Matt Cain has been lights out except for 1 pitch. 2-1 Cards top 7

  142. pat October 17th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    MarcCarig

    A’Rod knows there’s “blood in the water.”

    MarcCarig

    Alex says he loves New York.

  143. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    I’d like to see you vs.Cash like Romney vs. Obama.
    ///

    Come to Waterfront Park in Trenton next spring ;) .

    ———————–

    I’ll moderate along with yankeefeminista :D

  144. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    Alex loves the Miami area too.

    ;)

  145. RadioKev October 17th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    The Chavez thing is interesting. They’re either really sticking with this right platoon thing, or something is up.

    I’d have to think Girardi is just going with the lineup that he thinks gives us the best chance to win.

  146. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    Mike F. is embarrassing in his defense of Arod.
    Other than the self serving “news” content Arod provides, he is reciting ancient history.
    He is done Mike, a sss vs Verlander isn’t enough to convince Cashman that he is coming back.

  147. tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    Does anyone here (besides me) actually want the Yanks to win? Honest question. Can’t tell from reading these posts.

  148. pat October 17th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    HaleMark

    Granderson on not starting: “I understand it. We’ve got to make changes and adjustments right now.” #yankees

  149. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    pat October 17th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    MarcCarig

    A’Rod knows there’s “blood in the water.”

    MarcCarig

    Alex says he loves New York.

    ——————————

    See this is not personal.

    New York–good
    Yankees–bad

  150. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    Does anyone here (besides me) actually want the Yanks to win? Honest question. Can’t tell from reading these posts.

    ————————-

    We all want them to win but it’s just being realistic. This thing is a mess and has exploded in front of our eyes

  151. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    tom-

    95% of this blog are die-hard Yanks fans… being critical isn’t the same as trolling. We want the Yanks to win but obviously there is more negative to dwell on being down 3-0 than positive at this point.

  152. pat October 17th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    jcrasnick

    Idol A-Rod attracts a swarm of reporters at ALCS. #Yankees pic.twitter.com/VkDaxODQ

  153. Patrick October 17th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Mike F. is embarrassing in his defense of Arod.
    Other than the self serving “news” content Arod provides, he is reciting ancient history.
    He is done Mike, a sss vs Verlander isn’t enough to convince Cashman that he is coming back.

    Francesca is on the radio spouting A-rod’s career numbers like they mean anything. If that were the case why not sign Reggie Jackson to a 7 day contract, he can come in and DH for us!

    Point is, A-rod looks cooked at this point in time. He couldn’t hit a RHP if his life depended on it

  154. RadioKev October 17th, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    For what it’s worth, I’d be upset if the Yanks traded A-Rod to Miami for nothing AND paid for it.

  155. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    He is done Mike, a sss vs Verlander isn’t enough to convince Cashman that he is coming back.

    ————————

    But Chavez being 0-14 convinces them he is better going forward.

  156. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    im all-in as usual tom!

    it’s time to take the kitties down!

  157. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    MTU October 17th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    JAP-

    He’s suggesting you buy pork bellies.

    :)
    ////

    I have a few counter suggestions for him, but that’s for another day ;).

  158. EliasInNH October 17th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    I want the yankees to win. Desperately. Our pitching gives us a great chance to win. The defense needs to show up.

  159. Jerkface October 17th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Does anyone here (besides me) actually want the Yanks to win? Honest question. Can’t tell from reading these posts.

    I want the Yankees to win. Now the smarter question, do you think the yankees will win?
    What we want may not be what is most likely. The Yankees are in a super deep hole right now. THey need to sweep a 4 game home and home series. I want them to do it, but in history it has been done once out of 30 or so tries, so the odds say they won’t.

  160. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Mike is making this into Watergate.
    Levine and Lauria have spoken, Cash is a liar Mike is intimating.
    Unless Levine is going over Cashmans head again.

  161. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    MTU,

    You would not believe what a flaming Cashman supporter I once was, especially during the whole Santana-Hughes thing.

    You know what they say, fool me once….

  162. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    “Idol A-Rod attracts a swarm of reporters at ALCS.”

    Is that “Idol”, or “Idle” ?

    Interesting pun ?

    ;)

  163. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    I am so glad I don’t listen to Francesa.

    Who cares what the hell he says.

  164. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    Mike is praying for a fascinating Arod interview.
    “Arod has been relegated into being a bum.”

  165. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    that was my first thought; how do we know that cashman is in on these conversations at this point?

  166. Jerkface October 17th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    Other things I want:

    - to win the lottery
    - a working smartgun from the movie aliens
    - the 3 star wars prequels to be stricken from the record
    - bluefin tuna to not be going extinct because their meat is so delicious

    Now the odds of me getting any of these are pretty slim

  167. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    JAP-

    Everyone should revise their opinions as more info. becomes available.

    That’s just smart.

    ;)

  168. Patrick October 17th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    I think it’s fairly likely that the Yankees will win tonight but it’s very doubtful they can take the series or even bring it back to New York.

  169. tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    MTU,
    Now’s the time to sell pork bellies, not buy them.

  170. champ809 October 17th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    The glaring mistake Ca$h made in the offseason for me was not replacing Swish with either Cespedes of Beltran which I along with others here were screaming for at the time.

    Swish was a known commodity to us as a very good reg season performer and an absolute dud in the postseason whereas Beltran is a notorious beast in the postseason. With Cespedes he was an unknown but our roster is in dire need of the type of youth and athleticism he possesses and as we now know he’s got the clutch gene as he killed this year hitting w/risp.

    Too many proven postseason deadspots in our lineup year after year

  171. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    I am so glad I don’t listen to Francesa.

    Who cares what the hell he says.

    ———————-

    If he rips the FO I’ll give you a heads up

  172. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    there is still time for arod to turn this all around and have a monster PS.

    is his head in it?

  173. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    that was my first thought; how do we know that cashman is in on these conversations at this point?
    ===============
    you know cash wants alex out.
    levine is not going over his head.

  174. Patrick October 17th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    A-rod is basically filling the Andruw Jones role at this point, pretty crazy.

  175. Tabbert October 17th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    I bet Nunez is super pumped/ annoyed with all of this.

    He is like… ” Man.. I WORKED MY TAIL off to finally get to the big club and this is what we have turned into”? Guess i gotta take the reins.

  176. RadioKev October 17th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    The Yankees pitching is so good that I’d give them a 15-20% chance of coming back. I’m an optimist…

  177. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    JF-

    “Now the odds of me getting any of these are pretty slim”

    Just get #1 and the others will take care of themselves.

    The order of your wishes is correct.

    Just like using the Aladin’s lamp.

    Always ask for more wishes first.

    Money gives you more wishes.

    ;)

  178. champ809 October 17th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    we know better than anyone that an 0-3 comeback is possible…If we can get tonights game then I like our chances with Pett on the mound in game 5 to get it back to NY.

    if we come back to NY with games to be played then i think Det will be in trouble

  179. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Tom-

    I wouldn’t know.

    I just know that pigs can’t fly, and if you put lipstick on them they still look the same.

    ;)

  180. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    im not saying anyone’s cutting cashman out, but other people in the fo do have relationships with fo people on other teams and they dont necesarily have to talk to cashman before having a casual conversation.

    moving arod isnt a 2 phone-call type move. if a potential deal picks up steam everyone will be in on it. but a conversation doesnt have to mean anything or be reported to everyone in the fo.

  181. deleonj October 17th, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    It will be interesting to see how his teammates react to the way the yanks are treating alex. Or maybe free agents….

  182. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    there is still time for arod to turn this all around and have a monster PS.

    ————————————–

    There is no time left. The Tigers have what 2 lefties in the pen. Alex is in the doghouse at this point.

  183. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    - bluefin tuna to not be going extinct because their meat is so delicious
    —————————————————————-

    This made me laugh.

  184. pat October 17th, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    Pete Caldera?@pcaldera

    A-Rod: “Some of the criticism I’ve received, I can take that…our only focus is to win a baseball game tonight….I trust my teammates.”

  185. MTU October 17th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Man. I always thought I was the ultimate optimist but a lot of you guys top me easily.

    :)

  186. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    I’d like to see you vs.Cash like Romney vs. Obama.
    ///

    Come to Waterfront Park in Trenton next spring ;) .

    ———————–

    I’ll moderate along with yankeefeminista :D
    ///

    Odds, you ought to come on down, any way – my treat. Outside of the raffles and twirl-the-bat-off-your-head-til-you-vomit shenanigans, I love those games. Seeing the kids keeps me sane, especially the really good ones. :D.

  187. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    this is where the early game tomorrow is great for the yankees. win tonight and come back early tomorrow with ap. you win that one and the tigers are getting on a plane wondering what happened.

    and ill go even further and say if it comes back to nys, the stadium will come alive for games 6 & 7!

  188. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    I’d like to see you vs.Cash like Romney vs. Obama.
    ///

    Come to Waterfront Park in Trenton next spring ;) .

    ———————–

    I’ll moderate along with yankeefeminista :D
    ///

    Odds, you ought to come on down, any way – my treat. Outside of the raffles and twirl-the-bat-off-your-head-til-you-vomit shenanigans, I love those games. Seeing the kids keeps me sane, especially the really good ones. :D .

    ———————-

    It’s been a hard few months for you baseball wise since since January. Those kids keep you spirits up. :D

  189. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    aao, one well timed pinch-hit and he’s out of the doghouse and back in the lineup. baseball’s a funny game (suzyn!)

    you can’t predict it!

  190. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    your*

  191. Tabbert October 17th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    YS guy-

    If this series gets back to the bronx… I would venture to say that it might be the loudest we have heard the new stadium.

  192. ZMANINSJ October 17th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    I am as die-hard as any fan there is, but this house of cards — this pathetic excuse for a team (offense that is) — needs to be completely reconstructed. There’s no way they come back from 3 -0. I will support any changes that bring in young talent and jettison Rodriguez, Swisher, and Granderson.

    Put Nunez at third next year or work him into an outfielder. Doesn’t matter. He’s exciting and he can galvanize the team. Bring back Melky. Team him with Gardner and either Ichiro or a free agent.

    I don’t care if both Girardi and Cashman are sent packing. Just be bold, make changes and make fans excited to watch the Yankees again. This team is a sedative. Old, constipated, and horrific in the clutch.

    Time for MAJOR change.

  193. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    I am so glad I don’t listen to Francesa.

    Who cares what the hell he says.

    ———————-

    If he rips the FO I’ll give you a heads up
    ///

    If he did, he would do it for the wrong reasons. He’s lost. Was it you who related he was cursing out Girardi for putting Nunez in the lineup? I mean, that’s just so perfect. Guy is clueless.

    But the Joba comments will never lose their appeal!

  194. Nick in SF October 17th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Shouldn’t that really start with the Ewoks?

  195. tom tresh 15 October 17th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    tomingeorgia, Miss GB and Tin Cup as well. Just wonder what they think.

  196. pat October 17th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    JonHeymanCBS

    friend: “A-Rod will “never (agree to) leave NY.” yanks may try tho.

  197. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    True you can’t predict it and if that happened it would be a big lift but boy I think there is so much bad blood now.

  198. JobaTipsHisCap October 17th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    between Yankees and Arod, Arod is winner, no matter what.
    He makes huge money from Yankees, his contract makes Yankees look too stupid, he won one WS in NY
    He plays poorly now, but Yanks have to continue to pay him.

  199. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    I am so glad I don’t listen to Francesa.

    Who cares what the hell he says.

    ———————-

    If he rips the FO I’ll give you a heads up
    ///

    If he did, he would do it for the wrong reasons. He’s lost. Was it you who related he was cursing out Girardi for putting Nunez in the lineup? I mean, that’s just so perfect. Guy is clueless.

    But the Joba comments will never lose their appeal!

    —————

    Yes it was me. To be fair he likes Nunie’s bat but his defense is what concerns him.

    The Joba comments will live on forever. He hasn’t really mentioned Joba that much this yr. Crazy how hard he pressed for him to relieve.

  200. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    ———————-

    It’s been a hard few months for you baseball wise since since January. Those kids keep you spirits up. :D
    ///

    …ever since You-know-who went into the bullpen for life………… January would be an awful month forever, were it not for my father’s birthday :D.

  201. MaxyC October 17th, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    What the Yankees did to Arod has crossed the point of no return. There is no coming back from this break. They have effectively stated that even if this series is extended somehow, Arod will virtually have no at bats, as the Tigers do not really have any lefties. This is his inglorious exit from the Yankees universe that we are witnessing.

  202. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    between Yankees and Arod, Arod is winner, no matter what.
    =========================
    other than a steroid induced 09 PS, what has arod won?
    money? women?
    his yankee conquest is over…

  203. MaxyC October 17th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    The way the Yanks are treating Arod and the way he is acting, I am now convinced that behind the scenes there will be action from the top to try to move him somewhere, this offseason.

  204. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    ———————-

    It’s been a hard few months for you baseball wise since since January. Those kids keep you spirits up. :D
    ///

    …ever since You-know-who went into the bullpen for life………… January would be an awful month forever, were it not for my father’s birthday :D .

    ————————–

    That’s the best thing to look forward too.

    *Joba fist pump*

  205. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    I still say Alex’s hand is the real culprit in his like total present futility…

  206. tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Cain looks just like a younger AJ.

  207. ZMANINSJ October 17th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Amen, Maxy and mick. It would be wonderful if they can’t move him in the offseason to tell him he will be the DH against left-handers only. How sweet would that be? Insane to pay the clown, but that would be a worst-case scenario.

  208. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    other than a steroid induced 09 PS, what has arod won?

    —————–

    You mean other than the first WS win since 2000

  209. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    *Joba fist pump*
    ///

    “We may never see that velo again…” :roll:

  210. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    AndrewMarchand How about Yanks send A-Rod & $85M to Marlins for Bell. I’d build from there.

  211. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    the yankees have played 8 PS games this year. if they win the WS they will play at least 8 more, so there is time for arod, swisher and grandy to change thier PS dramatically. im not saying they will but they CAN.

  212. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    ou mean other than the first WS win since 2000
    ====================
    sss

  213. Patrick October 17th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    Why is benching A-rod an insult? He’s playing badly and he got benched; that’s kind of what you do in sports. Girardi creates his lineup to score the most amount of runs on a given night, he’s not thinking about A-rod or his feelings. Girardi is trying to do his job, not insult the guy. This is an elimination game, Girardi is doing what he thinks is best to keep his team alive for another day. Give me a freaking break with this insult crap

  214. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    other than a steroid induced 09 PS, what has arod won?

    ///

    Oh, are we obliged to give back our “tainted” champioship? :(

  215. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Oh, NM

  216. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    JAP-

    I don’t think A-Rod has fallen off a cliff as much as it seems this postseason. I don’t he ever will be a middle of the order hitter again but I think he can be a productive 2 hitter. I could see him hitting around .280 and 20 hr. A useful and extremely overpaid player. But I don’t think he’s the 0-18 or whatever guy we see now, I agree on that.

  217. ZMANINSJ October 17th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Ys Guy — you are living in some strange alternate universe. Time to look ahead. Granderson, Swisher and Rodriguez are toast. They have earned everything that befalls them.

  218. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    give back our championship?
    where are you coming from?

  219. Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    DavidWaldstein Verlander saw A-Rod in the tunnel after game 3 and asked him, “What the H— is going on?” Rodriguez apparently didn’t have an answer.
    ——————

    Wow.

  220. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    “win tonight! the other crap can wait till the season’s over.”

    Ys Guy – you may not have noticed it but the forum GMs have been talking about next season since almost the first day of this season. What makes you think they’d ever stop talking about it now??? It’s amost next season!

    :)

  221. pat October 17th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    MarcCarig

    “I really feel in my heart, anytime I’m in that lineup, the team is a better team without a question. So, we’ll disagree there today. And I like Joe, I support Joe.” A-Rod

  222. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    alex is reggie without rings

  223. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    so the marlins would basically take him @ $7M per. (olney just speculated that if he were an f/a this year he’s get one year @ $5M.

    so yeah, i’d sign up for that in a heartbeat.

    but things can still change before that stuff comes in to play.

  224. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    ou mean other than the first WS win since 2000
    ====================
    sss

    ———————————–

    Cashman is that you but I thought the playoffs was not an indication of a player really is.

  225. ZMANINSJ October 17th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    If the Marlins just took him gratis we should send them a thank-you fruit basket.

  226. MaxyC October 17th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    “Why is benching A-rod an insult? He’s playing badly and he got benched; that’s kind of what you do in sports. Girardi creates his lineup to score the most amount of runs on a given night, he’s not thinking about A-rod or his feelings. Girardi is trying to do his job, not insult the guy. This is an elimination game, Girardi is doing what he thinks is best to keep his team alive for another day. Give me a freaking break with this insult crap”

    ==============================================================

    Of course its an insult. You are talking about one of the greatest players of all time being effectively benched for however long this series goes, for middling players. Arod had very good numbers against Verlander, yet he is sat for a player who is doing horribly, with the bat and on the field. This is nothing less than something personal against Arod, because Swisher, Granderson and especially Cano keep getting chance after chance. And I by no means am an Arod defender, but it is what it is. He is being made the pariah and I would think that the front office will try like hell to get rid of him somehow this offseason.

  227. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    trisha i HAVE noticed. but it really got going in the end of june coming up to the trade deadline. but for some reason the deadline passed and the trade speculation never did.

    there was a week or so where im sure ‘upton’ was posted more than ‘jeter’ in the comments section.

  228. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    look at the big picture, some guys can’t handle the pressure of NY, many have passed through.
    those loving alex are in the minority and their reasons escape me.

  229. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    look at the big picture, some guys can’t handle the pressure of NY

    ———————

    One yr he handled the pressure and helped us get to WS championship. I’ll take that because all he failed all those yrs he wasn’t the only one.

  230. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    Tyler October 17th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    JAP-

    I don’t think A-Rod has fallen off a cliff as much as it seems this postseason. I don’t he ever will be a middle of the order hitter again but I think he can be a productive 2 hitter. I could see him hitting around .280 and 20 hr. A useful and extremely overpaid player. But I don’t think he’s the 0-18 or whatever guy we see now, I agree on that.
    ///

    Tyler, you’re wise for your years ;). Honestly, I think that’s one of the fairer assessments I have read here about ARod since this whole thing blew up.

  231. austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    I would love a couple runs in the first inning. We haven’t had a lead. It might allow all the players(and fans)to breath normally and relax.

    Players don’t fail because they aren’t trying hard enough but from too much pressure from expectations. That’s why I only boo on the inside.

  232. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    It’s not about loving Alex. It’s about balancing it out. Alex hasn’t played well but he is being scapegoated like he always has. Some of that is based on who he is but some of it is based on looking for an out.

  233. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    benched for middling players? in case you didn’t notice, chavez’s ops was 70 points higher than alex’s this year.

    ALEX is a middling player(in a total slump)

  234. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Uhh, Reggie Jackson never even approached Alex Rodriguez’s zenith, or even less than that, in his career.

    Just. Ridiculous.

  235. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    scapegoated?
    he has been a bum from day 1.

  236. mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    Reggie was a winner.
    Individual stats don’t impress me.

  237. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    It’s not about loving Alex. It’s about balancing it out. Alex hasn’t played well but he is being scapegoated like he always has. Some of that is based on who he is but some of it is based on looking for an out.
    ///

    Agree.

  238. MaxyC October 17th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    “Players don’t fail because they aren’t trying hard enough but from too much pressure from expectations. That’s why I only boo on the inside.”

    ================================================

    If these guys can’t handle pressure don’t come to NY, go to Kansas City, Houston or Colorado. They can’t handle pressure, but sure don’t hesitate to take the big money. If you don’t live up to demand, expect to be booed.

  239. austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    Tyler,

    I too agree with you. Giving up a player who can do that while paying his salary and limiting cap space nonetheless, leaves you in a worse position since you no longer have a third baseman. I never perceived him as a distracration as he seemed like a good teammate.

  240. austinmac October 17th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Maxy,

    I think booing increases pressure and lessens performance from a player on my team who needs him to do well. It might make you feel better, but it serves no other purpose.

  241. Against All Odds October 17th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    mick October 17th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    scapegoated?
    he has been a bum from day 1.

    ————–

    That bum bought you a chip in 09. We would still be saying haven’t won since Torre’s Yankees.

  242. RMS October 17th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    It’s not about loving Alex. It’s about balancing it out. Alex hasn’t played well but he is being scapegoated like he always has. Some of that is based on who he is but some of it is based on looking for an out.

    —————————————————————————————-
    Very true. If Alex was the only one not hitting, okay. But you have Cano, Swisher, Grandy, Chavez, Martin not hitting, so Alex sits.

  243. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    tomingeorgia October 17th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Cain looks just like a younger AJ.
    ///

    I think Bronson Arroyo looks a lot like AJ.

  244. MaxyC October 17th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Uhh, Reggie Jackson never even approached Alex Rodriguez’s zenith, or even less than that, in his career.

    Just. Ridiculous.

    ==========================================================

    Arod overall is a far superior player career wise. Arod has numbers that place him in the stratosphere of legendary players. But, Reggie, unlike Arod, did not fold in the postseason, he thrived. He had so much confidence in himself, I think he actually believed he could not fail in the postseason, while I don’t get that sense from Arod, as good and talented as he is.

  245. MaxyC October 17th, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    “Maxy,

    I think booing increases pressure and lessens performance from a player on my team who needs him to do well. It might make you feel better, but it serves no other purpose.”

    ============================================================

    So are you saying that fans have no right to boo? You expect us to cheer when they are playing like a sandlot team in the postseason, again. If their egos can’t handle booing, like Swisher, then they can go to Kansas City, where their sensitivities will be protected. They all knew what they were getting into coming to NY.

  246. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Arod overall is a far superior player career wise. Arod has numbers that place him in the stratosphere of legendary players. But, Reggie, unlike Arod, did not fold in the postseason, he thrived. He had so much confidence in himself, I think he actually believed he could not fail in the postseason, while I don’t get that sense from Arod, as good and talented as he is.
    ///

    I don’t really buy Alex as a folding in postseason play. What are you saying – 2009 was some outlier? He knocked the crap out of the Twins in 2004, and hit until Pedro threw at him in the ALCS: everyone’s bats went quiet after Game 3. In 2005, he got nothing to hit, and he rolled over pitches he should have laid off of, trying to make something happen. I just don’t buy into it.

    Sorry, but I think the ARod as Postseason Choker is much the canard.

  247. Shame Spencer October 17th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Interesting Arod interview… I do like that he said he thinks he makes any line up better including an All-Star game line up lol!

    He looks like he wants to cry lol, but I gotta give him credit for gritting his teeth and smiling through this one…

  248. MaxyC October 17th, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    “I don’t really buy Alex as a folding in postseason play. What are you saying – 2009 was some outlier? He knocked the crap out of the Twins in 2004, and hit until Pedro threw at him in the ALCS: everyone’s bats went quiet after Game 3. In 2005, he got nothing to hit, and he rolled over pitches he should have laid off of, trying to make something happen. I just don’t buy into it.

    Sorry, but I think the ARod as Postseason Choker is much the canard.”

    ==========================================================

    Yes, 2009 was an abberation for ARod. Without him, do the Yanks win the WS – no. He will alswys get credit for that. But outside of that, his postseason numbers are miserable, indicative of choking, and not living up to his talent.

  249. J. Alfred Prufrock October 17th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    Maxy, we disagree :D.

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