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Pregame notes: “It’s not like anything’s changed”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Oct 18, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

As you might expect, there wasn’t a lot of news coming out of Joe Girardi’s pregame session with the Yankees beat writers. It’s the same old song, just a day later.

“It’s not like anything’s changed overnight,” Girardi said. “You look at what you look at on a daily basis and it’s not like it’s changed.”

Girardi is sticking with the same lineup he planned to use last night. He’s obviously sticking with the same pitcher. And obviously he’s hoping for different results.

“I hope (the day off) did something for (the lineup),” Girardi said. “Obviously we know there’s a lot in front of us, but you can’t think of that. You’ve just got to think about winning a game today. … I know we’re down 0-3 and there’s a lot of what-ifs, but I could be substantially different. We had some opportunities, so I feel good. And you have got to go out and win a game today.”

Win a game today, then see what happens. That seems to be the running theme at this point.

“Obviously our goal is to win the World Series,” Girardi said. “I mean, that will never change. But they are short-term goals at this point. Your goal is to win today. I mean, that’s it. Play a good ballgame and win today and do whatever it takes to win today, and then you worry about tomorrow when tomorrow comes.”

• Alex Rodriguez’s replacement at third base, Eric Chavez, hasn’t exactly been crushing the ball this postseason. Chavez is 0-for-14 in the playoffs. “His at-bats have been okay,” Girardi said. “I thought he got the barrel of the bat to Verlander three times the other day, and that’s not an easy guy to get the barrel of the bat up to. And Chavy has swung the bat pretty good for us this year. That’s why he’s in there.”

• One benefit of the rain out: The Yankees have a full bullpen tonight. Girardi wasn’t sure he’d be able to use Boone Logan last night, but he said Logan should be fine today.

• Phil Hughes’ lower back isn’t expected to be an issue going forward. “We think he’s going to be available for us,” Giradi said. “Not today, but after today maybe.”

• Russell Martin’s jammed thumb isn’t expected to be an issue. “I don’t think so,” Girardi said. “I’m sure the day off helped.”

• That said, Girardi said that last night he had multiple lineups ready, including one with Chris Stewart just in case Martin couldn’t play.

• Girardi said he still believes postponing last night’s game was the right decision. “I don’t think there’s any way we would have finished because at 10 o’clock we were driving home and it was raining hard,” Girardi said. “I think that was the big fear.”

• Derek Jeter spoke to Girardi on Wednesday, and although Jeter never gave a speech to the team following his injury, Girardi said Jeter has been quietly making himself felt in the clubhouse. “He does it the way he always does it,” Girardi said. “You’re not going to notice that he’s doing it, but he’s doing it.” Does that mean Captain-by-text-message? “There’s some calls, too,” Girardi said.

• What’s Kevin Long’s responsibility right now? “I think his personality is important,” Girardi said. “And I think he just continues to work with them. There’s going to be a time during the course of a season where you see a hitter gets a little off track and you try to make a minor adjustment. That’s what he’s been doing. He’s not going to make any overhauls of swings right now – now is not the time to do that – but you try and make minor adjustments if you see something wrong.”

• For whatever it’s worth, Girardi said he doesn’t think Rodriguez’s struggles are because of bat speed. “I don’t necessarily think it’s bat speed, I don’t,” Girardi said. “I’ve seen him hit the ball in BP and I’ve seen him hit it a long ways, and you’ve got to have bat speed to do that. It’s just, he’s scuffling. … I think it’s more how you’re seeing the ball a lot of times and how you see certain pitchers.”

• Does Girardi consider the idea of Rodriguez not being back with the team next year? “I think any media that has to do with Alex is probably not surprising to me,” he said. “We’ve talked about how he seems to be someone that people like to talk about. That has not crossed my mind that he’s not going to be with us. That’s not something that’s crossed my mind or I’ve even thought about.”

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115 Responses to “Pregame notes: “It’s not like anything’s changed””

  1. Doc Iac October 18th, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    man i see some yankee fans (not on this blog) screamin for them to get rid of a-rod

    if thats how u feel thats fine but then they want to get soft players like reyes and hamilton in return…im baffled

  2. Ys Guy October 18th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    anyway, this non-arod fan yankees fan is rooting for alex to get into todays game, hit a huge homer and lead his team to a WS title and put this all behind him.

    Let’s Go Yankees!!!!!

  3. Tabbert October 18th, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Why does arod need to be the guy to hit the homer? I would like to see cano get the homer, get hot, and carry us. But.. I will take a homer from ANYONE at this point.

  4. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    “I think he’s totally screwed up mechanically as well”

    Which happens all the time when compensating for injury? Was he using this same hunched stance earlier this year when he was hitting the ball? I still haven’t looked at that.

  5. Tackelberry October 18th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Picture this: Chavez gets hurt duting today’s game, forcing Arod into the game and he ends up getting a big hit or home run to help the Yanks win. As William Shtner once said, “Irony can be pretty ironic”

  6. NYY_Girl_Penny October 18th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    I hate to say this but I was even thinking if Chavez got hurt maybe they’d play Arod. I think they need him in the lineup at all costs. If he fails, well that’s on him but Arod vs an 0-14 Chavez ?? Gimme a break. With that said, I don’t wanna see Chavez hurt, even if he was they’d probably not play Arod.. but I sure hope Arod gets a chance and makes Cash/Joe eat their words.

  7. Jeff in Canada October 18th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Leading MVP candidate for this series is ARod’s PR consultant.

  8. blake October 18th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    “Which happens all the time when compensating for injury? Was he using this same hunched stance earlier this year when he was hitting the ball?”

    he’s been spread out like that all year for the most part…..

  9. JobaTipsHisCap October 18th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    “he got the barrel of the bat to Verlander three times”

    lol

  10. NYY_Girl_Penny October 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    disclosure: How I feel now may change.. I’ve battled going back and forth looking at Arod’s total PS stats and realize he is a nothing in the PS so who cares, but then I say maybe he is pissed enough right now to step up.. then again he is a head case so he’d probably just crumble. So confusing. One thing for sure, I almost felt sorry for him. Almost.

  11. JobaTipsHisCap October 18th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    Captain texting/calls?

    LOL

  12. DONNYBROOK October 18th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Things go well for the Yanks today, and A-Rod should NOT be called on to do anything. Hope that is the case.

  13. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    blake – So this stance change can be attributed to his earlier season hitting and SLG .460… but not his performance now….

  14. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    m October 18th, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    AAO,

    Thanks. Reading it now. Did it thru the ball boy. I know it happens all the time, but it looks especially bad during the playoffs. And a loss at that.

    I still feel that Alex should have been back in there after sitting once, but that’s simply to preserve the relationship.

    —————————–

    Yea it looks bad but I still wonder if A-rod was hitting would this be a story. I kinda doubt it.

  15. Nick in SF October 18th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Mr. Prufrock, I have to get going, so we’ll have to continue this lovely chat another time. Good day, sir.

  16. G. Love October 18th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    What’s tough for me with Arod is there are a few issues. He was hitting better before Felix broke his hand and looked to be getting better at the plate.

    He then did everything he could to get back early, didn’t get into bad shape during the lay off and came back sooner than I think the estimates were.

    I’m sure him being out of sorts at the plate has something to do with the hand injury.

    I also was concerned with him coming back and using the “timing” excuse they’ve used in the past for him to explain why he couldn’t hit for awhile. I was scared that they would keep him in the 3-4 spot and just rely on that timing excuse like they have in the past.

    What has me cheesed off about Arod is this flirting with girls and writing his number on the ball. It’s not because I’m jealous. It’s because it’s a total lack of awareness and respect for the game they were in. I don’t care that he was benched. The fact that he did what he did, and it’s confirmed by many people now, is so disgusting to me I don’t know what to say.

    If Andruw Jones who was left off the PS roster did it I’d say rip the jersey off him and send him home.

    I know these guys aren’t choir boys. I don’t expect them to be choir boys except from the first pitch to the last out.

    If it’s ticking me off like it is, I don’t doubt it’s ticking off the men & women paying him 30 million a year to be a guy he’s incapable of being right now.

    I honestly feel like they’ve suspended him. I don’t think they’ll go to him even against a lefty.

    Where he fits in next season is a huge question mark. It’s hard to come back from this.

    That being said, the mere idea of dealing him for Vernon Wells would be the dumbest solution they could come up with.

    Personally, I’d pull him aside and have him do an 1 on 1 interview where he apologizes for the flirting thing during the game and restates how committed he is to winning with the Yankees and give him one more season to show he can put up .280 25 90 as the DH/3b.

    But I still think there’s more than meets the eye here and I think the Yankees are kicking him out and off the team by any means necessary.

  17. Hassey October 18th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Now the stadium is to blame? Maybe the Ortiz jersey was able to cast its spell before it got exorcized?

    http://www.detroitnews.com/art.....z29eI7pGpc

  18. mick October 18th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Francesa hangs up on a guy cause he’s not in the mood….

  19. DONNYBROOK October 18th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    I continue to say there is Always gonna be something physically wrong with A-Rod and an excuse to go with it. He’s a Roid user and we have seen this steady decline before.

  20. mick October 18th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Who will Mike talk about when Arod is gone?

  21. charlestonchew October 18th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Honestly, I’m getting kind of angry about this whole situation. Why aren’t we starting one of the best hitters in MLB history in an elimination game?

    Alex should be in the lineup, even though he’s been struggling. It’s silly to start Chavez instead when he doesn’t have half the talent Alex does.

    I was all for his benching in Game 5 of the ALDS, but with all of this more recent benchings… it’s almost like it’s just making things worse. Show faith in the guy and I think he’ll perform. We know about his self-esteem issues. Let’s not make them worse when we know he can turn it around in the blink of an eye. He prepares for these games like crazy. Works hard. Let’s let him try and hit. He can be a massive difference maker. Chavez? He might hit one out, or get a double. But he’s not gonna blow you away.

  22. yankeefeminista October 18th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    Not sure why a Yankee source had to confirm the story. Why feed the media?

    Hopefully, the extra rest helps us and we have better AB’s.

  23. G. Love October 18th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    ID –

    The stance looks really similar to me to what he was doing earlier in the season. He never really had his legs under him hitting wise all year.

    Right now, my feeling is either he’s lost bat speed or he’s completely befuddled and guessing wrong on everything at the plate.

    I think there’s too much going on upstairs in his brain when he’s hitting and he’s behind everything half a step or more right now.

  24. J. Alfred Prufrock October 18th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    I’m guessing Alex went to that wider base to try and compensate for hip and knee problems. He doesn’t have the core strength he once did, robbing him of his explosiveness. I really would like to see where he is at in ST. Whatever, he’s not a four hitter any more. But he can still be productive. Blake, I think you’re right that he needs to get out from under KLong.

  25. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    AAO,

    Something or someone is definately smoking.

    ————————-

    You’re right about that

    http://latino.foxnews.com/lati.....na-treacy/

  26. Tabbert October 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    A. Chavez had a better season than Arod.
    B. I don’t know that Arod has more talent than chavez at this point.
    C. What does Arod being one of the best hitters of all time have to do with this? He is no longer in his prime nor is he on steroids anymore. Now he is old and washed up.

  27. JobaTipsHisCap October 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/l.....H4IaD6OlTI

    who is the other Yankee? continue to dig please, Post!

  28. mick October 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    G. Love you are right about the Yanks being pissed off about Arod flirting on company time.

    It is their out…they don’t want him anymore, haven’t for awhile.

    Moreso than he’s not hitting…it’s just a perfect storm….his time here is up…he’s done.

    Now get something for him…..

  29. Cashmoney October 18th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    It’s Cashman, Joba.

  30. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    G.Love – I think his early return had a lot to do with how close they were getting to not winning the division. Had they been farther ahead there would have been no need to rush back. No way to know if another 2 or 3 weeks of rest could have helped him… but he is clearly not the same guy that was playing earlier this season.

    “.280 25 90 as the DH/3b.” That’s exactly what I expect, and he is completely capable of when healthy. They knew full well this was coming when the contract was signed.

    Tabbart… Chavez had 300 cherry picked at bats against pitchers he was supposed to be able to hit. Not really better than A-Rods first 300 at bats, which were full time against righties and lefties.

  31. mick October 18th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Mick…Nick…one letter away, good one…face it.

    I’m on your mind….

  32. blake October 18th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Irreverent Discourse says:
    October 18, 2012 at 2:43 pm
    blake – So this stance change can be attributed to his earlier season hitting and SLG .460… but not his performance now….

    He’s not hit righties all year…..I don’t think he’s able to trigger his swing all spread out like that and 2 seamers are eating him alive

  33. RMS October 18th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    If Alex has declined so much, as some have said, what team would want him? Especially in the NL with no DH.

  34. mick October 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Why is Mike defending Alex to this extent?

    Mind boggling…

  35. blake October 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Watch video of Arod when he was Arod….. That fluid leg kick is his timing mechanism…..now he’s lessened it and has spread out to probably try and compensate for age …… long is all about simplification …. And that works for some people but with others they new certain things to trigger with ….Alex looks uncomfortable to me at the plate….. He looks like Jeter without his toe tap to me…..

  36. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    blake – If you want to get picky about it, he has only hit LH relievers, and RH starters all season. Doesn’t help the narrative much.

    JF is there a way to combine the splits on BR so I can get platoon splits by month?

  37. mick October 18th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    “They made Jorge’s life miserable and now it’s Alex”

    This should get at least 1 call-in…

  38. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    mick October 18th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    “They made Jorge’s life miserable and now it’s Alex”

    This should get at least 1 call-in…

    ——————

    Is he wrong???

  39. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    AND…. jesus…

    Accoridng to THIS: http://www.baseball-reference......;t=b#power

    He hit power pitchers (read: big fastballs) better than finesse pitchers.

    I wonder how they define that split in pitchers…

  40. blake October 18th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    blake – If you want to get picky about it, he has only hit LH relievers, and RH starters all season. Doesn’t help the narrative much.

    He doesn’t hit like he used to and aside from a hit stretch right before he got hurt he really hasn’t all year

  41. DONNYBROOK October 18th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Like A-Rod did Nothing to inflict this Wrath Of Khan? He gave the Yankees the opening to slam him, and they are doing it with relish.

  42. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Arod hit FB pitchers to the tune of 170 OPS points better than ground ball pitchers. Those are guys with fastballs up in the zone.

    blake – At some point this year he must have been catching up to that fastball.

  43. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    I don’t pretend to be an expert on what goes on in the Yankee FO like some here.
    Nobody knows what’s going on behind the scenes.

  44. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    blake – So he was just getting hot with this “bad stance” and could have outperformed his second half? And then he got hurt?

    At what point does what you are saying become an actual factor? We seem to not be coming across it as a reason for anything.

  45. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    err outperformed his first half*

  46. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Why the outrage about Alex?
    His time here is up, nothing wrong with that…

  47. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    DONNYBROOK October 18th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Like A-Rod did Nothing to inflict this Wrath Of Khan? He gave the Yankees the opening to slam him, and they are doing it with relish.

    ———————–

    True A-rod is not an angel. But the Yankees are basically signaling him out.

    They signed him to the contract. If you marry a stripper and she cheats on you don’t blame the stripper blame yourself.

  48. blake October 18th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    “blake – At some point this year he must have been catching up to that fastball.”

    He’s not as bad as he’s playing….which is why I said I think he screwed up mechanically…..in addition to the wrist maybe still bugging him.

    The thing is though……I just really don’t think he’s be sitting in this game if there wasn’t more to the story than just his performance…….I mean lets remember that Chavez is 0 for the playoffs and made a crucial error the other night…..It’s not like they are going with a hot hand to sit Alex…..they are just sitting Alex

  49. Bad Scooter October 18th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    Chavez is 0-for-14 in the playoffs. “His at-bats have been okay,” Girardi said. “I thought he got the barrel of the bat to Verlander three times the other day, and that’s not an easy guy to get the barrel of the bat up to. And Chavy has swung the bat pretty good for us this year. That’s why he’s in there.”

    This is too much. What a crock. Got the barrel of the bat to Verlander? Ha.

    Play Arod, end of story. And who gives a crap about handing a ball to the ballboy to pass on? Seriously? He could of been in the clubhouse with 1/2 the team watching on tv (maybe) with their feet up. Would that have been better?

  50. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Thing is…..Hal NEVER wanted Arod, not at that price…..that was Hank’s doing and what happened to him?

    Hal saw his opportunity and like a good businessman, jumped on it….can’t say I blame him.

    Time to move on….get Headley.

  51. blake October 18th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    “blake – So he was just getting hot with this “bad stance” and could have outperformed his second half? And then he got hurt?”

    Doesn’t mean he can’t have success…..been kinda inconsistent though no? He’s having trouble with his timing …..an if you read my posts.,…I kinda think him being so spread out hurts him in that regard

  52. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    This is too much. What a crock. Got the barrel of the bat to Verlander? Ha.
    =====================
    So what, it’s politics…

  53. austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Now with two Yankees flirting during the game, this will soon sound like chicken and beer during the game. Is one worse than the other?

  54. DONNYBROOK October 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    You wanna know what the Yankee FO is thinking??? Read a Sherman column.

  55. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    This is chicken and beer, been saying it all along…

  56. RMS October 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    “They made Jorge’s life miserable and now it’s Alex”

    This should get at least 1 call-in…

    ——————

    Is he wrong???
    =============================================================
    No. And told Jeter to go out there and see what deals there are.

  57. Shame Spencer October 18th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Now with two Yankees flirting during the game, this will soon sound like chicken and beer during the game. Is one worse than the other?

    ——————–

    Wait.. there were TWO Yankees flirting during the game? And I wasn’t there??

  58. Jerkface October 18th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    JF is there a way to combine the splits on BR so I can get platoon splits by month?

    http://www.baseballmusings.com.....atabase.py

  59. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Thing is…..Hal NEVER wanted Arod, not at that price…..that was Hank’s doing and what happened to him?

    Hal saw his opportunity and like a good businessman, jumped on it….can’t say I blame him.

    ———————————-

    Back then when Hank was more vocal, Hal was looked at the silent brother but the one in charge of the finances. To say he didn’t want him at that price is funny. Hal is the one overlooking the budget now but like he was the one overlooking the budget back then. Hal takes the same blame as Hank. When they went on the spending spree that included Alex,Mo, and Jorge do we honestly believe Hal was just a passenger along for the ride.

  60. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Do you know what George would have done with Arod if he were here?
    It wouldn’t be kind.
    Hal is channeling his inner George,,,and he is being nice about it.

  61. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    RMS October 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    “They made Jorge’s life miserable and now it’s Alex”

    This should get at least 1 call-in…

    ——————

    Is he wrong???
    =============================================================
    No. And told Jeter to go out there and see what deals there are.

    ——————–

    They will probably do the same to Mo when it’s all said and done

  62. austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Shame,

    My only warning is to be aware when MTU tells you he is wearing his Yankee jersey. He is not a baseball “player”.

  63. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Why do you think Hank is out of the picture?
    Don’t you think Hal has more power now that Hank is gone.
    Hank getting Arod with that atrocious contract was not Hal’s doing.
    You can be sure that will never happen again…

    This is Hal’s team now.

  64. austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    If Soriano returns they could well be hard negotiators with Mo. It is all a out the money.

  65. Jerkface October 18th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    @mikeaxisa

    Michael Pineda spent almost as many days on the DL this year as all White Sox pitchers from 2010-2012 combined. Insane.

    Cooper/CHW apparently know what they are doing regarding pitcher health. Or they are very lucky.

  66. DONNYBROOK October 18th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    MO would walk away. He aint into all the drama.

  67. JobaTipsHisCap October 18th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    It’s Cashman, Joba.

    ha, good one

  68. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    Why do you think Hank is out of the picture?
    Don’t you think Hal has more power now that Hank is gone.
    Hank getting Arod with that atrocious contract was not Hal’s doing.
    You can be sure that will never happen again…

    This is Hal’s team now.

    ————————

    It’s always been Hal’s team mick.

    “While Hank Steinbrenner, George’s older son, has been much more talkative about the Yankees in his frequent interviews, Hal has been more involved in the daily operations of the team. It is Hal, not Hank, who deals with team executives and spends considerable time in the Yankees’ offices in New York.”

    “He’s been slowing down for the last couple of years,” Hal said. “Really, for the last couple of years, I have been intimately involved with all aspects and all departments of the company. It’s what I’ve been doing day to day. My duties aren’t really going to change and my work isn’t really going to change much. It’s as much a procedural thing within the family at this point.”

    Howard Rubenstein, George Steinbrenner’s spokesman, issued a statement saying that the designation honored Steinbrenner’s desire to have his sons in charge. The statement said that Hal was given control because he is responsible for the business and financial side of the Yankees. Hank oversees baseball operations. George will continue as the chairman. Hal and Hank will remain co-chairmen.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11......html?_r=0

  69. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Hank getting Arod with that atrocious contract was not Hal’s doing.

    ————————–

    So the person in charge of the finances had no say in giving out the largest contract in the game.?

  70. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Or they are very lucky.

    ——————–

    It’s all luck

    *signed various Yankee fans on RAB*

  71. Shame Spencer October 18th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    “While Hank Steinbrenner, George’s older son, has been much more talkative about the Yankees in his frequent interviews, Hal has been more involved in the daily operations of the team.”

    Man… if only this whole inheritance thing worked like it did in medieval times, Hank would be the rightful heir!

  72. Shame Spencer October 18th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Shame,

    My only warning is to be aware when MTU tells you he is wearing his Yankee jersey. He is not a baseball “player”.
    —————————————
    :lol:

    I’ll have to keep that in mind!

  73. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Believe what you want AAO….it’s an evolution….I wouldn’t be surprised if Hank was bought out….how else do you silence a blowhard like that?

    If you want to believe company-speak that’s your choice…

  74. jacksquat October 18th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    mick October 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
    Why is Mike defending Alex to this extent?

    Mind boggling…

    He’s a shock jock that just picks up on whatever the current controversy is, or makes one up.

    No different than say Rush Limbaugh, just a different subject.

  75. DONNYBROOK October 18th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    I tend to avoid “08″ Rocky Horror, “Doin’ the time warp” material.

  76. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    Believe what you want AAO….it’s an evolution….I wouldn’t be surprised if Hank was bought out….how else do you silence a blowhard like that?

    If you want to believe company-speak that’s your choice…

    ————————

    No company speak it’s coming straight from Hal. Hell even when the brothers took over in 07 the stories were Hank is the talkative one and Hal is the quiet one that over looks the finances.

  77. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    He’s a shock jock that just picks up on whatever the current controversy is, or makes one up.
    ===========================
    It’s Mike looking out for Mike.
    He’s prolly “friends” with Arod and gets favors for his sons from him.

  78. Sigmund October 18th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    What the Yankees clearly need is a sports psychologist. The hitters, at least, have succumbed to the pressure. That happens; they’re humans. What isn’t acceptable is the prospect that they’re not getting psychological help. Forget Kevin Long. There’s only so much he can do. It’s not mechanics. It’s fear or pressure. Get the Yankees the nation’s best sports shrink! Immediately. If they haven’t done this then they really aren’t working on their problems.

  79. jacksquat October 18th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Chavez’ OPS was about 200 points higher than Arod this year vs rhp. End of story. Tired of posting the stats and splits, done it already at least 10 times.

  80. DONNYBROOK October 18th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    EVERY story I have read told of Hank being the guy that A-Rod and company button-holed. Whether Hal gave his consent, I do Not know. But Hank was The Man, front-and-center.

  81. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    jacksquat October 18th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    mick October 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
    Why is Mike defending Alex to this extent?

    Mind boggling…

    He’s a shock jock that just picks up on whatever the current controversy is, or makes one up.

    No different than say Rush Limbaugh, just a different subject.

    ———-

    Yes controversy sells but Mike has always been A-rod guy. He’s hammered him when he felt he was wrong and supported when he thought he was right.

    In this situation he feels the Yankees should challenge Alex and put him in the line-up. If he fails or succeed at least he was given the chance to do it. By benching him they aren’t even giving him the opportunity to do it.

  82. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    This indeed is the perfect storm.
    How convenient that the Tigers have no leftys….

  83. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    He’s prolly “friends” with Arod and gets favors for his sons from him.

    ———————

    When he blasted Alex for taking roids was A-rod doing things for Francesa’s sons?

  84. Tackelberry October 18th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Curtain goes up in half an hour. Where are the ANSKY BOYS when we need them?

    GO YANKS!!!

  85. J. Alfred Prufrock October 18th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Go C!!!

  86. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Mike doesn’t want to get into the steroid issue as he doesn’t know when, if and who does it.
    He thinks Alex is the greatest player that has ever lived.

  87. NYY_Girl_Penny October 18th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    When you think about it the Yankees are a mess from top to bottom. From ownership to manager to roster. Gonna be an interesting off season.

  88. mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    By benching him they aren’t even giving him the opportunity to do it.
    =====================================
    Look at it as a suspension.

  89. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    JF – When I get here – http://www.baseballmusings.com.....tterType=1

    I see 3 “handedness” splits? Was there a mutant in the league?

    blake – What I don’t see is a significant RHP or LHP split for A-Rod before his injury this year.

    It seems to me that I have now found him to be hitting both LHP/RHP, FB pitchers, and power pitchers… so his stance was either different earlier this year or it has nothing to do with anything. Which is it?

  90. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    jacskquat – I suggest you get the right stats then. I’m tired of you posting the wrong ones.

  91. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    mick October 18th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
    By benching him they aren’t even giving him the opportunity to do it.
    =====================================
    Look at it as a suspension.

    —————–

    Tough suspension for getting a women’s number.

  92. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Will they suspend the 2nd Yankee as well?

  93. NYY_Girl_Penny October 18th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    I think we will be able to tell first time thru the lineup what we’ll see from our bats today.

    sure miss Jeter. might even say I miss Arod.. younger Arod I do miss.

  94. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    In fact, any split A-Rod has this year can be directly attributed to not walking vs RHP. he struck out at the same rate vs both LHP and RHP.

  95. Shame Spencer October 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Will they suspend the 2nd Yankee as well?

    ——————-

    When did the 2nd Yankee come into play here?? Is this real life?

  96. jacksquat October 18th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    jacskquat – I suggest you get the right stats then. I’m tired of you posting the wrong ones.

    Post your stats, I already posted stats from the same places you are using. There is no way you can jostle the stats around to show Arod was anywhere near as good as Chavez vs rhp except for very short periods of time.

  97. jacksquat October 18th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Post the rhb/lhb splits for Scherzer while you’re at it, to dig yourself into an even deeper hole.

  98. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Shame Spencer October 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Will they suspend the 2nd Yankee as well?

    ——————-

    When did the 2nd Yankee come into play here?? Is this real life?

    —————————-

    Came into play recently thanks to the NY Post.

    If this isn’t real then I wonder what part of the season we’re really in

  99. Marcus October 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    The Yanks are in the ALCS and they are a mess. You could root for the Mets.

  100. jacksquat October 18th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    In additin, Chavez had 313 plate appearances this year, so if Girardi “cherry picked” 313 plate appearances (other than vs rhp) to get him his great numbers vs rhp, then he must be a genius. If that’s the case, then he knows when to play Chavez, and everyone else can shut up.

    But really Chavez was just much better vs rhp and that’s why he’s playing. Not rocket science.

  101. Shame Spencer October 18th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Gotcha.. so once again Arod is on a list but is the only one outted!! #Conspiracy

    And ugh, I will not be getting any hockey this season to hold me over to spring training…

  102. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    jacksquat – You must be confused and think I want ARod in the lineup.

    Chavez is supposed to hit RHP. Great. If he had to play full time his numbers would be significantly worse than Alex’s, who (as I have shown above) hit both RHP and LHP essentially the same before his injury.

  103. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    jacksquat – 245ab vs RHp, 33 ab vs LHP

    That’s as cherry picked as you can get.

  104. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Shame Spencer October 18th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    Gotcha.. so once again Arod is on a list but is the only one outted!! #Conspiracy

    And ugh, I will not be getting any hockey this season to hold me over to spring training…

    ————————–

    Yep it’s always Alex no matter who else is involved.

    I’m not as big into hockey as I once was but yea they are going into a tough lockout. It might resemble the NBA season.

  105. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    “f the drama WIN THE BASEBALL GAME!

    Let’s Go Yankees!!!!”

    There ya have it! Play today, win today. The rest will take care of itself whether or not you want it to, without the help of anyone here, whether or not you want it.

    GO YANKS!!!

  106. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    And I do think we can get this series back to the Bronx.

  107. djsunyc October 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Shame Spencer October 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Will they suspend the 2nd Yankee as well?

    ——————-

    When did the 2nd Yankee come into play here?? Is this real life?

    ———

    what 2nd yankee. that mystery texter was the ballboy that exchanged the numbers lol…

  108. Jerkface October 18th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    ID,

    The handedness category shows TOTAL for the batter in each side of the plate & then vs each pitcher type.

    So for A-rod he is only a righthanded batter so there is a total: Righthanded Batter & then Vs Lefthanded Pitcher & Vs Righthanded Pitcher.

    No mutants in this league, unfortunately

  109. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
    And I do think we can get this series back to the Bronx.

    —————————

    Wishful thinking

  110. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Against – of course. But I happen to believe it too. Not saying it will be easy!

    :)

  111. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
    Against – of course. But I happen to believe it too. Not saying it will be easy!

    ————————

    If they pull it off it will be the feat greatest thing in their history

  112. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    I think I’ll enjoy the game with the pleasant company of the lohud forum, unless it turns into a postmortem because Arod isn’t playing. At that point I think I will enjoy it on my own!

  113. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    JF – Look at it again though… it says RH batter, LH batter, RH pitcher

    I just found it odd as the placement of the batter/pitcher word seem to be backwards.

    The rows themselves make sense… except the part where A-Rod has no discernible split (it’s literally straight up BB rate vs RHP without an inscreased K rate) before his injury.

  114. Jerkface October 18th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    You look at it again.

    Right Handed Batter 352 97 14 1 15 44 38 2 8 84 0 2 11 0 .276 .357 .449
    Left Handed Pitcher 112 31 2 1 7 17 18 1 1 25 0 0 2 0 .277 .382 .500
    Right Handed Pitcher 240 66 12 0 8 27 20 1 7 59 0 2 9 0 .275 .346 .425

  115. Irreverent Discourse October 18th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    LOL, it doesn’t say that in my Chrome browser (one too many addons i figure). I just loaded it up in IE and FF and it shows it the way yours does.

    bizarre.


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