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Sabathia expected to have bone spur removed

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 20, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Explaining some of CC Sabathia’s elbow soreness, without creating concern about a long-term problem, the Yankees expected their ace to have a bone spur removed by Dr. James Andrews in the coming days.

General manager Brian Cashman confirmed that Sabathia will visit Dr. Andrews, but would not comment on the bone spur. A Yankees official, however, confirmed that the team believes Sabathia has a bone spur that will be removed. That could explain the elbow soreness that led to a brief stint on the disabled list this season.

That said, a bone spur is relatively good news. It’s a fairly common injury, easily fixed, and comes without the long-term concerns of ligament damage.

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122 Responses to “Sabathia expected to have bone spur removed”

  1. blake October 20th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Definitely good news that they both found the problem and its not ligament damage

  2. Done October 20th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    I wouldn’t believe a word of this until we see CC on the mound in ST. Yankees pitchers and injuries rarely end well.

  3. tucker October 20th, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    tucker says:
    October 20, 2012 at 7:44 pm
    Also some chatter that Jason Kubel may be available. The DBacks want to go with an outfield of the rookie Adam Eaton, Justin Upton and Gerardo Parra, who is a light hitter but excellent defender (sort of like Brett Gardner).

    Kubel is not much of a defender, but he would mash at Yankee Stadium. And he’s hairy.

  4. UnKnown October 20th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    Really happy to see the Hamilton train gaining some steam here. I have been in love with Hamilton all along and would want nothing more this off-season than to see him be a Yankee.

    If I remember correctly when I brought up Hamilton during the season almost everyone hated it, but I think the way G. Love killed it today by explaining to everyone how much sense it would actually make to get Josh, people are realizing that Hamilton in Yankee Stadium is something to salivate over.

    As for Soriano that dude can hit the road. The pen will be just fine without him with MO coming back and Joba farther removed from TJ and also Aardsma. The Yanks don’t need to over pay some guy with a terrible attitude to pout in the pen about pitching the middle innings and not give it his all. Also, the untuck the jersey thing is really stupid as well and definitely not Yankee like. Hit the road SO!

    Speedy recovery’s for Jeter and Sabathia. Great job people with the comment section today, lots and lots of good stuff. Keep it coming. #hamilton2013

  5. RMS October 20th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    No to Hamilton. Too many problems and injury prone. And he will want a long term deal for a lot of money. But he does fit the Cashman “winning” profile, leftie home run hitter and big hairy monster.

  6. m October 20th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    I assumed that Soriano was as good as gone.

    What’s the deal? We gotta offer him at least a 13.5M/1 year deal to get compensation if he signs with another team? On the surface I would say yes do that. He’s not a favorite, but I doubt he will want to come back in a reduced role. I’m assuming that Mo will be back. I think Robertson should get some closing opportunities even if Mo returns.

  7. luis October 20th, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Hi Unknown,

    He did kill it.. What won me over though, is that he proposed a sound strategy both for the present and the future… I would be a little hesitant about the length of the contract and how it would impact Cano’s extension… But all in all a very smart proposal.. You bring someone that can accompany Cano in the middle of the order that only costs money ( keeping and bringing more talent through trades ) and at the same time they get younger in some other positions. So I am all for it, as long as we get to keep Cano for the long haul. Unless of course, Boras gets in the way and demands a crazy contract along Votto’s or Arod’s lenghts

  8. blake October 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    I’ve always liked the idea of Hamilton ….he’s a truly special player that would kill YS…..

    However the Yanks would need to be careful on the term and realize that with him you’re probably goin to get 2 more elite years….maybe a good year or two …then then there may be a sharp decline around 35 or so….

    If the Yanks sign him with the mind of using him to help bridge the gap to their prospects then I think that’d make some sense…..short therm they do need a RH bat as well though.

  9. blake October 20th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    Sign Hamilton and trade for -Upton …..offensive fixed

  10. luis October 20th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Blake,

    There you go again ;)

  11. Against All Odds October 20th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    I’d like to see them get Hamilton just to piss off Francesa lol

  12. luis October 20th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Bringing Hamilton would assure Pettitte and Kuroda that we have a contender yet again and they might sign up for it. Even if Jeter isn’t able to play in Pettitte’s case. Also putting Adams at third and Nunez at short, it would make the lineup more multidimensional and flexible. On top of it, you get to keep the prospects and probably bring some more talent by trading Granderson.

    Blake,

    Trading for Upton would defeat the whole strategy. Granted, prospects might bust and then we have nothing to show for it. Still, I think building the core in house is a must.

  13. blake October 20th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    Id love to get Hamilton on a 5 year deal. He will play his age 32 season next year and id expect him to be pretty much what he is now for about 2 more years……then he will decline as he nears 35 most likely……

    The idea would be to go for it now with him and let him pair with Cano to help get them to the place where that group in A ball is close to ready.

    If he market is 7 or 8 years then you have to walk away….but I think every team will have the same concerns that a lot of fans do and it could drive the term down ….. If it does the Yanks should be ready

  14. blake October 20th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    “Trading for Upton would defeat the whole strategy. Granted, prospects might bust and then we have nothing to show for it. Still, I think building the core in house is a must.”

    Depends on who you have to trade for him….I’m assuming you wouldn’t have to trade all their prospects…..and Upton is young and could be a long term fix himself…..I think they’d hav to trade big league players to get Upton anyway…..maybe 1 prospect

  15. Ys Guy October 20th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    so last year’s untradeables were sanchez, banuelos, betances and mason williams. as it turns out, they probably would have done well to trade betances, banuelos and williams and sanchez is certainly tradeable.

    who are this year’s untradeables?

  16. luis October 20th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Blake,

    Do you think a package of Granderson, Pineda and one of Heathcott/Murphy/Almonte do the trick?

  17. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    so is it true the Cano wants 10 year…$20 mil per…

  18. blake October 20th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Do you think a package of Granderson, Pineda and one of Heathcott/Murphy/Almonte do the trick?”

    I doubt Pineda has much trade value until he shows that his shoulder isn’t destroyed

  19. luis October 20th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Y’s,

    If you asked me, I would trade from the current MLB roster. I wouldn’t trade prospects. I would enhance the talent pool. We have a core that needs to be replaced

  20. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    Pineda….not even sure that he will be able to pitch in 13

  21. I Am Winning October 20th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    I would love Hamilton’s bat, but how does this fit the Yankees need? Sure, we COULD us a left fielder, and we COULD use another power bat from Texas. He would definitely rake at YS.But he can’t bunt, can’t steal, he will want a lot of years, and a lot of money. I just feel like for the years and money (relative to age) isn’t a good deal. If he wanted to sign for 2 years, than the Yanks should give him whatever money he wants, but he won’t.

  22. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    I Am Winning October 20th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
    I would love Hamilton’s bat, but how does this fit the Yankees need? Sure, we COULD us a left fielder, and we COULD use another power bat from Texas. He would definitely rake at YS.But he can’t bunt, can’t steal, he will want a lot of years, and a lot of money. I just feel like for the years and money (relative to age) isn’t a good deal. If he wanted to sign for 2 years, than the Yanks should give him whatever money he wants, but he won’t.

    ———————————
    a lot of people here think that Gardner is going to be the LFer…Not ME

  23. Against All Odds October 20th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    joeman October 20th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    so is it true the Cano wants 10 year…$20 mil per

    ————-

    That’s what’s out there. I’ve heard fans say trade him now!!!!!!

  24. Against All Odds October 20th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    He most likely will be the LFer. The Yankees like what he brings to the table.

  25. luis October 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    Blake,

    I know… I just don’t want hughes/Nova/Phelps on that trade.

  26. Ys Guy October 20th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    i’d offer cano 5/$120. if he won’t sign for less than 6 years, id trade him.

  27. Ys Guy October 20th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    6 years or less i meant for cano.

  28. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Id trade phelps or nova for Upton without much thought….like them both…like Uptons upside moloch more

  29. luis October 20th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    If we use G Love’s model, Hamilton would be the RF, Gardner CF and Ichiro the LF. That’s a pretty good outfield. Also it would give chance to one of Tyler/Wiliams/Heatcott/ Almonte to pan out. Meaning that none of those players would be blocked when their time is due ( 2014/2015 )

  30. Ys Guy October 20th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    the yankees are willing to pay top dollar, which is fine, where they are running into trouble is by signing for too many years. hank blew it with arod, they should have offered him a 3 yr extention at most (which would have ended next season) at top dollar.

    the yankees should make it clear, we will pay more per year than other clubs, but not beyond age 35. if they want longer, let them walk.

  31. Lost October 20th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    I don’t see the lineup fixed by adding a single bat, i.e. Hamilton. I’m all for it and think he will help a lot but there’s a lot more retooling to do than just that. As much as I’d like to think it’s that easy, what we saw this year might just be what we are. What if we follow the same downward trends the last few years, is it possible we get worse than that? I really don’t know but I don’t see it as a fluke, aside from maybe Cano.
    The lineup is just far too one-dimensional with aging power+ hitters that don’t hit for average. The RISP factor is unacceptable and it shows that there are way too many bats trying to do too much. That’s a result of managerial flaws as much as it is individual accountability. We witnessed the same players without the ability to adjust all season and our coaching staff didn’t seem to have the ability to break thru to them. It’s really a mess when the majority of our team was suffering from virtually the same issues. I do have a good feeling about where we are headed but there is a lot of “what if’s” right now before we can even begin to assimilate the direction Hal and Co. are really gonna go in. We know what they have said, but I don’t believe they expected what this team delivered this year on the field even tho they won 96 games and broke the HR record. I’m pretty sure we are going to see significant changes. Let’s hope so!

  32. Against All Odds October 20th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    He’s getting more than six Ys. The Yankees should have extended him two yrs ago.

  33. Ys Guy October 20th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    personally i dont want any part of hamilton. fragile and one-dimensional is not where i want this older team to be going.

  34. Ys Guy October 20th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    im sure he will get offers of more than 6. that’s why the yankees have to move this offseason. extend him or trade him.

  35. Lost October 20th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    typo: 95 Wins.

  36. austinmac October 20th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    Cano will not sign for less than eight years. I think that is an absolute as is a demand for more than $20 M per year.

    The D Backs trade seems to make an Upton availability unlikely.

  37. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    There is a real danger Hamilton could end up another 20 million dollar one-dimensional hitter hobbling around like Tex and Arod. He would provide the greatest immediate impact but also concentrate many resources in few places. If the one player lets you down, it ties up too much money in one place.

    I am all for adding a bat to the middle of the order, but I think it should be a righty and preferably someone more well-rounded and younger. And if they can’t find that hitter to compliment Cano than they need to distribute resources more evenly and sign multiple players to fill multiple needs with Hamilton/Granderson money.

    Melky Cabrera, BJ Upton and Ichiro Suzuki is a speedy, versatile OF. Melky and Ichiro hit for high contact. Upton and Ichiro have a ton of speed. Melky and Upton have 20 HR power.

  38. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    “I don’t see the lineup fixed by adding a single bat, i.e. Hamilton”

    Yea I don’t either…,it’d be a start though ….they really need a good RH bat a well

  39. Against All Odds October 20th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    They are not bringing Melky back. I think there is s better chance hsnikton comes than Melky

  40. luis October 20th, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Lost,

    You are spot on… But if they let Swisher go, trade Granderson, give the chance to Adams at third and Nunez at short. Our lineup becomes much better than it is.

    You either put Arod as a full DH or as many say here, he might end up traded. The only positions that you still might get subpar performances is at 1B and C. But you can live with it, since you have balanced a little the lineup ( a mix of power in Hamilton/ Cano/ Arod/ Tex and contact and speed with Gardne/Ichiro/Nunez and Adams. Hardly a circular lineup, but still if you have the pitching we had this season, it should be enough to compete. Granted, is not a total fix, but is a step in the right direction. I thought that we needed a couple of down seasons in order to rebuild, but this may give us the chance to so both ( compete and retool)

  41. Lost October 20th, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Ys Guy October 20th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
    im sure he will get offers of more than 6. that’s why the yankees have to move this offseason. extend him or trade him.

    Y’s Guy:

    I am not so sure Hamilton will get more than six years. The baseball economy is changing and these outlandish contracts are a thing of the past. There will always be exceptions to the rule, but even the Yankees realize that time has come and went. Let’s hope so, it’s good for baseball overall. Players will still get paid very well of course, but I’d be surprised if Hamilton was offered greater than 5 years.

  42. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    “There is a real danger Hamilton could end up another 20 million dollar one-dimensional hitter hobbling around like Tex and Arod”

    His swing is much better than Tex’s and Alex really didn’t start to seriously decline until he was 34 or 35…..if you signed Hamilton ImO you’d do not for more than 5 years and do it knowing at the start that you’ll likely be overpayjng the last year or two…,Hal has to be ok with this from the beginning or I wouldn’t do it

  43. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    And you can have Melky, BJ Upton and Ichiro for money alone.

    Then you can get your draft pick for Swisher, trade Granderson and trade Gardner. You could retool the whole team by gutting the OF and starting all over again. The process starts by spending money alone.

  44. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    BJ Upton is the type hitter we have all been complaining about…..

  45. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Blake,

    Hamilton is an OF though. They wear quicker than infielders.

  46. Against All Odds October 20th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    The thing that hurts Hamilton is big teams have a lot of money on their books.

  47. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    “Hamilton is an OF though. They wear quicker than infielders.”

    Not of he’s on a corner…. He shouldn’t be in CF ever anymore and Girardi would give him DH days

  48. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Anything around 5/100 and they should sign Hamilton…..

  49. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Blake,

    But he has accumulated some mileage as a CF and in the OF in general. He does provide the greatest immediate impact. I agree with that. But his shelf life might be much shorter than we want it to be.

  50. Cashmoney October 20th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    I would not give Cano that kind of years. I agree with Mac on the length and avv, and that’s just for starter. but ultimately as we all know the Yanks will make that decision. I love the idea of hamiton and Cano for 13 but the danger signs are there after year or two. 5 is doable imo. I rather have ross than upton he will come little cheaper imo. a lot of decision for Yanks to make. I think signing Hamilton basically spell the end of Cano. the argument is maybe Jeter, Nunez can move to 2b or there are some minor depth who can be potential mlb starter at 2b. while there is no one to replace Swisher’s production internally for a couple years imo. a

  51. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    And I think, despite what we complain about, the more frustrating issue with the team is being saddled with superstars who do not meet our expectations and tie up resources at a time when the budget is tightening. Yeah it stinks that Granderson is HR or nothing and he K’s all the time but the main problem holding back improvement is Tex and Arod. Always was.

  52. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    “But his shelf life might be much shorter than we want it to be.”

    Yea but you would know that going in….I expect him to be elite a couple more years then decline…..I don’t think he will age all that well be he could still be good up to 34 or 35 so that’s what is be banking on…..signing him to a 5 year deal and tryin to win a title or two before he fell off the cliff

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    I would love Hamilton’s bat, but how does this fit the Yankees need? Sure, we COULD us a left fielder, and we COULD use another power bat from Texas. He would definitely rake at YS.But he can’t bunt, can’t steal, he will want a lot of years, and a lot of money.
    ///

    I am not sure how making the offense more viable has become about bunting and stealing bases. That sounds like Cashman’s false dichotomy to me, and even though it’s a strawman pile of nonsense out of his mouth, I agree that we should not aspire to that.

    This guy has a .913 career OPS, including .959 against RHP, hits for average and has decent splits, as well as good career “clutch” numbers. Whether they pursue Hamilton or not, anyone who can hit for average like he can and put up a .900 OPS is going to give this offense the octane boost it so desperately craves. He’s immediately the cleanup hitter, too.

    Add Hamilton, or his ilk, and watch Cano’s “problems” disappear.

  54. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Hamilton was right behind Jeter in jersey sales this year….don’t think the Yanks aren’t factoring that in with all the empty seats….

  55. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Nod to Cashmoney for the “Cashman False Dichotomy” original reference, btw ;).

  56. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Well as long as the team is stuck with Arod and Tex (and we can fantasize about moving them for many more years to come) I don’t think the Yankees will add more potentially crippling contracts. The most frustrating thing about the Yankees is that the number of improvements needed is escalating but we can’t do anything about it because of huge contracts to two players in the lineup. If you add a third 20 million dollar hitter and he gets injured or tanks like the two others then the worse thing about this roster just gets worse.

    I think it’s time to get a little more creative and diversify.

  57. Cashmoney October 20th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    yeah, you roughly getting 20-25 million worth of production for 50 plus million. going forward it might be less. that is a problem Yanks are saddle with for 4 more year at min. I don’t see anyone taking rod without burnettesque deal. Tex is comfortable here and wont go anywhere either.

  58. Against All Odds October 20th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    and he K’s all the time but the main problem holding back improvement is Tex and Arod. Always was.

    ———-

    I think Tex is the bigger culprit. He was brought in to bridge the gap between the old core and the young Cano. A link between the two groups and then by the time he was suppose to decline then the young kids would be ready but Tex has aged faster than we thought he would

  59. mick October 20th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    We can get all the sluggers you want but the result will be the same unless we get pure hitters, singles hitters, like Martin Prado, who can play all IF spots and LF.
    We need another 200 hit guy in the lineup.

    I would also look into trading for Brian McCann and Michael Young, who can also play any IF spot.

    This year’s money means nothing as in no limits.

    We can spend like the Sux will.

  60. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Jeter SS
    Headley 3B
    Cano 2b
    Tex 1B
    Hamilton LF
    Arod DH
    Ichiro RF
    Martin C
    Gardner CF

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Were I the Yanks, if they’re considering Hamilton, I’d reel in Melky, too. Crazy arms on the corners, great hit tools, Cano in the middle of it and no shortage of LH power and putting the fear of God back into visiting RHP, Jeter leading off with Nuney backing him up… crazy good, and with our pitching staff…. man, oh, man.

  62. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    “We can get all the sluggers you want but the result will be the same unless we get pure hitters, singles hitters, like Martin Prado, who can play all IF spots and LF.
    We need another 200 hit guy in the lineup.

    I really wanted them to trade for Prado last year when they were shopping him….now I doubt he’s available as the braves are planning on him being their 3B going forward

  63. luis October 20th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Hola Primo,

    Thanks for your take on the offense, you said it much better than I could ever could.

    On your post about Hamilton, you are right. But not only you get the cleanup bat, but with the additions of Adams, Nunez, Gardner and probably Ichiro you get a more balanced lineup. Of course, I am starting with the premise that Jeter may not be able to play. If he is able, then our lineup is even better. What I like the most if we get to keep the talent in the minors, and they won’t be blocked by the time they are ready.

  64. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Hamilton is a “pure” hitter.

  65. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    I would sign Melky but they won’t so Im not even factoring him intoy hair brained ideas

  66. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    October 20, 2012 at 9:28 pm
    Hamilton is a “pure” hitter.

    You should have seen him his a baseball with a -5 aluminum bat

  67. Cashmoney October 20th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    I think it’s time to get a little more creative and diversify.
    —-
    I don’t Cashman can do it. he is fairly one dimensional in his train of thoughts. that’s whole thing, for 4 to 5 years Yanks can’t flex their financial muscle that has always give em a huge advantage. combine with new CBA and cash’s track record in identifying talents and developing em , it paints a lukewarm picture for me. again, I don’t think Cash is at singular fault here. But the philosophy of this franchise needs to be tweak quite a bit in this brave new world.

  68. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    I just don’t think the Yankees need to pin their hopes (and concentrate so much of the budget) on 3 hitters making 20+ million.

    Take a good look at the Cardinals.

    Do they depend on 3 guys in that lineup?

    I’d say they depend on 8 guys.

    They have even distribution of resources. If one or two hitters flails and falters there are 6-7 guys ready to step up.

    The Yankees are overcommitted to Tex and Arod and now they’re paying the price. Hamilton could the final brick in the blockade that has prevented a much needed total and complete makeover/rebuilding.

  69. luis October 20th, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Cashmoney,

    You know very well where I stand in relation to Cashman. I agree

  70. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Primo! :D

    I agree, but I want the Melkito, too. He’ll be cheap and a steal. I agree that Nunez/Gardner and their speed gets thrown into greater relief by adding a super talent like Hamilton.

    Add him, and add Melky, lineup problems solved. We go from suspect to deep. And we probably go deep into the postseason, and the youngens are saved. And you know I’m with you on Adams getting his shot!

  71. NYY_Girl_Penny October 20th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Ajax would be soooo perfect for us right now!!! it makes me sick! Can’t blame Cashman on that one though because at the time we needed to replace Matsui and Damon.

    What surprises me more than anything is the Yanks inability to find top OF talent in the system. Ajax was for sure, but what do we have coming up ?

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    You should have seen him his a baseball with a -5 aluminum bat
    ////

    Crap! :D

  73. Cashmoney October 20th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    bret, if you want to assemble a circular lineup via FA and Homegrown talents that makes perfect sense. except that simply won’t happen with who is out there and who is in house at this juncture. every team should strive for that balance but i don’t think that can be a reality for now until a few years down the road.

    at to be honest, if you look at the cardinal last year, Puhjol and freese had something to do with them winning no?

  74. Against All Odds October 20th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    I just don’t think the Yankees need to pin their hopes (and concentrate so much of the budget) on 3 hitters making 20+ million.

    —————–

    Which means they will probably make a Swisher/ Grandy type move. Look for a player having a down yr but has upside

  75. mick October 20th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    blake

    i’m thinking the Braves might be interested in Hughes or Nova for Prado.

  76. NYY_Girl_Penny October 20th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
    I would sign Melky but they won’t so Im not even factoring him intoy hair brained ideas

    why ???? Melky ???? Do you really think he is going to put up even close ot those stats without drugs ? I like melky and think he is a good player but in the AL he isn’t coming close to that drug free!!!

  77. luis October 20th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Me too primo, but I don’t thinking Cashman will go for it… I do think that in order to bring Hamilton, they need to trade Arod. Otherwise, they won’t be able to extend Cano

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    I would sign Melky but they won’t so Im not even factoring him intoy hair brained ideas
    ////

    Fools!

  79. NYY_Girl_Penny October 20th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    We need someone like THe Curious Case of Benjamin Button where our players get youthful as they age :)

  80. Against All Odds October 20th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    but what do we have coming up

    ————–

    Williams and Austin to name a few

  81. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    why ???? Melky ????
    ////

    Because he’s good and young and is exactly what this offense lacks, because he’s all that and will be a bargain, and because we don’t need to take a Fundamentalist viewpoint on his PEDs use.

  82. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    luis October 20th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Me too primo, but I don’t thinking Cashman will go for it… I do think that in order to bring Hamilton, they need to trade Arod. Otherwise, they won’t be able to extend Cano
    ///

    So trade him :D. Regardless, keeping Cano is the one thing that they must do.

  83. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    NYY_Girl_Penny October 20th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    We need someone like THe Curious Case of Benjamin Button where our players get youthful as they age :)
    ////

    De-rek Jeee-ter!

  84. Cashmoney October 20th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    melky will come relatively cheap and short term…I don’t love the fact he went to length to cover up his usage. but in dealing just with possible undervalue talent he is def a viable candidate for me. To be frankly, a few would care if he can replicate some form of his 11 to 12 season and drive in some crucial runs. Again, low risk and possible good upside is why you would consider anyone. Why steve howe the 8 time drug user or strawberry or doc, cuz they were cheap and they were project to have something left.

  85. mick October 20th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    Cano will go where the money is.

  86. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    “i’m thinking the Braves might be interested in Hughes or Nova for Prado.”

    They don’t really need pitching

  87. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    Cashmoney – Cashman loaned the company car to an extortionist with a restraining order out against her by her own daughter…. he’s not one to judge :D.

    Bring back the Melkman!

  88. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    “why ???? Melky ???? Do you really think he is going to put up even close ot those stats without drugs ? I like melky and think he is a good player but in the AL he isn’t coming close to that drug free!!”

    Cause he should be cheap….as no Indont think he’s going to just fall off the world now because he got busted….did Ryan Braun? Low risk potentially high reward move…..if its a one year deal for like 5 million an he stinks then cut him…..what if its a 1 year deal and he hits .315 though?

  89. luis October 20th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Primo,

    Agreed on Cano. Unless Boras gets out of control.

  90. Cashmoney October 20th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    well, let’s not go the morality route and open up a new can worm. I don’t mind melky because he might be cheap and short term and possibly offer an upside where there is scarcity of available talents. I would definitely consider him if the dollars is right. the other stuff idc.

  91. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    I thought the quote from Gibson about Arod was interesting….given Towers and Cash’s history I wonder if they could work something out if Alex would approve going there…..dunno

  92. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    The Cardinals have so many guys who can put the ball in play, I don’t think it matters who comes up with the big hit. If not Pujols or Freese, it would’ve been someone else. It’s death by a thousand cuts to any pitcher who has to face them. If the Yankees are going to remake the circular lineups of the 90′s rather than rush and reach at quick-fix solutions, they should do it right even if it takes a few years. The rebuilding process needs to begin somewhere. The last thing we need is more of the same. I would be shocked if the Yankees stuck themselves with another giant contract to go along with Tex and Arod.

    I think they will bargain hunt. Melky could be the best buy out there regardless of baggage. It’s about bang for your buck for the Yankees at this point. It has to be. With so much money tied up in Tex and Arod, they don’t have much choice but to be thrifty. I also think Ichiro is a good buy and BJ Upton could be a decent buy as well. I like Keppinger over Chavez (we’re not getting Headley after his 2012 campaign). Keppinger puts the ball in play.

  93. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Some of you have problems believing Melky’s for real because you bought the fourth OF upside BS in the first place and failed to recognize his bat was developing nicely in 2009.

    You need to reset on him and stop the confirmation bias thing going on. Watch the ABs.

    What he’s done has not been out of the blue and it’s not going to just disappear. He’s for real, and we should grab him, make a public showing of “second chances” and all that BS. He can hit and he likes the big spot.

  94. Against All Odds October 20th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Something about Melky I’m not sure about.

  95. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Cano is going to make the Yankees make a decision this off-season..otherwise he will walk

  96. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    anyone for A Pagan here

  97. austinmac October 20th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    I believe Blake’s lineup at 9:26 would win a lot of games. A lot of games. Come on Hal. Think of the income not the expense.

  98. mick October 20th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Who is going to provide the leadership to say go get Melky?
    There is none, too many factions…

  99. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    I wouldn’t sign Cano this winter unless he gives a discount…. Particularly in years …..if he doesn’t then it really doesn’t benefit the Yankees to do it

  100. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    austinmac says:
    October 20, 2012 at 9:51 pm
    I believe Blake’s lineup at 9:26 would win a lot of games. A lot of games. Come on Hal. Think of the income not the expense.

    I know it would….great defense too…..won’t happen though cause they won’t pay the money for Hamilton and they won’t pay the players for Headley (which they maybe shouldn’t here I don’t know the price)

  101. blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    @JoseCanseco: I’m still one of the best players to ever play the game and one of the best physical specimens to ever walk the earth.

    Lol

  102. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    Bret The Hitman official 2012 winter wish list:

    Andy Pettitte
    Hiroki Kuroda
    Ichiro Suzuki
    Melky Cabrera
    BJ Upton
    Jeff Keppinger
    Draft pick for Swisher
    Draft pick for Soriano
    Trade Granderson
    Trade Gardner

  103. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    Well, that is the problem with these guys. Levine has too much City Hall in him.
    ///

    NYYFANS still locked in discussions among STH still enraged about getting screwed over by Yankees on 2ndary market. Many more claim they’re dropping them.

    Yanks need to compensate by putting a watchable team on the field.

  104. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Bret The Hitman official 2012 winter wish list:

    Andy Pettitte
    Hiroki Kuroda
    Ichiro Suzuki
    Melky Cabrera
    BJ Upton
    Jeff Keppinger
    Draft pick for Swisher
    Draft pick for Soriano
    Trade Granderson
    Trade Gardner
    Trade one of Hughes, Nova or Phelps

  105. Ys Guy October 20th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    im still pissed about this season. i dont really want to trade cano but i just don’t think there are many (if any) contracts at the $150M level that are worth signing).

    even at arod’s best, its arguable that 3 $10M players on shorter term contracts would have had more impact.

    i want cano to be a yankee for a long time but not if it’s going to be another arod contract (or really even another 3/4th’s of an arod contract) i just don’t think it’s worth it.

  106. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    blake October 20th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
    I wouldn’t sign Cano this winter unless he gives a discount…. Particularly in years …..if he doesn’t then it really doesn’t benefit the Yankees to do it

    ————————
    thinking is that if he isn’t signed in 13 the price will go up..and they would lose him

  107. Ys Guy October 20th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    trade granderson and put gardner in CF.

  108. J. Alfred Prufrock October 20th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Cano doesn’t want to leave, though. They’ll work it out. He’s the greatest 2B in Yankee history. I’m not even going to worry about it. If they trade him, they’re nuts.

  109. blake October 20th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    They probably can’t trade both Granderson and Gardner…

  110. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Hiroki Kuroda wil be a very tough sign

  111. blake October 20th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    ————————
    “thinking is that if he isn’t signed in 13 the price will go up..and they would lose him”

    If the price is close to 200 million then the risk of signing him early isn’t worth it…..he could get hurt….

  112. blake October 20th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Ys Guy says:
    October 20, 2012 at 10:01 pm
    trade granderson and put gardner in CF.

    If they can acquire a corner guy that’s better than Granderson then I would try and do that

  113. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    blake October 20th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
    They probably can’t trade both Granderson and Gardner…

    ————————————–
    fine then trade Gardner…really don’t know why everyone likes this guy…good OFer ….not a good hitter and with all his speed not a that good of a baserunner

  114. blake October 20th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Prev
    Via Jon Heyman: Brian Cashman says that he has no plans to try to trade Alex Rodriguez this offseason despite talk to the contrary. “He’s our third baseman … I’m going to focus on other areas,” said the GM before flatly saying he is not planning to discuss any deals involving A-Rod. Cashman denied having trade talks with the Marlins the other day.

    http://www.riveraveblues.com

  115. UnKnown October 20th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    “im still pissed about this season.”

    No doubt. Yanks blew a golden opportunity for #28. All they needed to do was score 3 runs a game against the Tigers and they couldn’t even do that. I’m definitely still heated over the offense absolutely disappearing basically throughout the entire postseason.

    Pitchers deserved so much better then what the Yankee offense was able to give them. The end to this season hurts and it hurts bad. Damn…

  116. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    like the idea of Arod being the perm DH..would like to see them get a everyday player at 3rd

  117. Bret The Hitman October 20th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    They have to do something about the homer-or-nothing issue for sure. But since they’re stuck with Arod and Tex they have to move other parts.

    I’d say instead of Arod and Tex, Swisher and Granderson take the bullet. Honorable mention to Russell Martin.

    It’s unfortunate but the Yankees must change wherever possible.

  118. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    can Granderson bring back a 3rd baseman..

  119. luis October 20th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    New thread :arrow:

  120. joeman October 20th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    since Bourn might leave Atlanta..how about Prado and a SP for Granderson

  121. NYY_Girl_Penny October 23rd, 2012 at 11:27 am

    k

  122. NYY_Girl_Penny October 23rd, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    ughh

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