Get used to the name: Shohei Otani
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 21, 2012 
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This isn’t exactly Yu Darvish 2.0, but young Japanese pitcher Shohei Otani has decided to come to the United States. He’s a high school kid, so Otani’s not going to do what Darvish did and jump to the top of a contending team’s rotation. But he’s apparently very good with a huge fastball. Here’s the brief Associated Press story about his decision to leave Japan.
TOKYO (AP) — Japanese high school pitcher Shohei Otani says he will pursue a career in Major League Baseball instead of turning professional in Japan.
Otani, a 6-foot-4 right-hander who has thrown a fastball between 99 and 100 mph, has been scouted by several major league teams including the Los Angeles Dodgers and Boston Red Sox.
The 18-year-old Otani said “I think I will start in the minor leagues but I want to challenge in the majors. It’s been my dream since entering high school.”
Otani was expected to go in the first round of Thursday’s amateur draft in Japan.
If he signs with a major league team, Otani would become the first potential top draft pick to make the direct jump from a Japanese high school to the U.S.
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Kyuji Fujikawa headed to MLB, represented by Arn Tellem/Don Nomura @fukudasun @nikkansportscom ????????????????? http://www.nikkansports.com/ba.....30459.html …
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I posted about Fujikawa sometime during the year. Very good reliever, may be affordable as a japanese free agent. Uehara was a great pickup by the O’s & Rangers, he could be a cost effective replacement for Soriano.
Ok Chad, give us the obligatory salary implications.
I know there’s no posting fee. What’s he gonna go for? And what will the impact be for the yanks. I’m pissed were missing out on the Japanese , Cuban international market this past year…
Here is my unofficial list of 31 players from the Yankees organization who would appear to qualify for minor league free agency within the next month:
First, the pitchers. There are 19 of them. Ramon Ortiz, John Maine, Juan Cedeno, Mike O’Conner, Manny Delcarmen, Kelvin Perez, Jon Meloan, Francisco Rondon, Jason Bulger, Kevin Whelan, Lee Hyde, Josh Romanski, Ronny Marte, Jairo Heredia, Diego Moreno, Grant Duff, Tim Norton, Joel De La Cruz, Kelvin Castro
Second, the catchers. There are 4 of them. Gustavo Molina, Jose Gil, Craig Tatum, Francisco Arcia
Third, the infielders. There are 8 of them. Kevin Russo, Doug Bernier, Ramiro Pena, Walter Ibarra, Jose Mojica, Cody Johnson, Jose Pirela, Jose Toussen
Last, the outfielders. There are 3 of them. Cole Garner, Abraham Almonte, Billy Hart
Of course, the list could change due to intervening transactions between now and the time Matt Eddy of Baseball America gets the official list from the Commissioner in a few weeks. I have not included on my unofficial list free agencies that Eddy has already announced.
Ok Chad, give us the obligatory salary implications.
I know there’s no posting fee. What’s he gonna go for?
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He is a prospect, he will be signed under the IFA rules so just a signing bonus + normal minor league contract. Most teams have only a million or so left to spend, except maybe the Rangers as I’m not sure what they’ve spent and they may have spent small in anticipation of Otani.
The cost will be between 1-5 million signing bonus only. Will not get a major league deal.
The impact for the Yankees if they acquired him would be getting a player worth a top 15 draft pick for nothing but money.
Thanks jerk.
Sounds like a no brainer, won’t impact their precious salary cap. Tell cashman we said its ok
The only negative impact on the Yankees is that if they sign him they will have to go ‘over slot’ and depending on by how much they will be limited to contracts 250k or under next season. Which should be fine, signing guys for that amount is one of the Yankees strengths in IFA.
Brian Cashman – “He’s from Japan? Forget it! I don’t want another Kei Igawa on my hands! Get me Freddy Garcia on line 1 & Paul Byrd on line 2 stat! Paul Byrd retired? I wonder what Marlon Byrd is doing? Hmmm….I really wonder what that bi-polar extortionist is doing now. Look, the leaves are turning!”
Sign him.
if it is a minor league deal then just money. Then the pitching coaches will probably mess him up that he will need surgery in a yr.
I’m guessing he will sign for 5 or 6 million? Somebody ( hopefully the yanks) will go over the. 2.9 million
I’m revising my earlier estimate of him signing for around ~5 million to under 3. I compared him with pitchers signing prior to the limit. I don’t think teams will really go too far over the limit to sign him. Infact, teams like the Dodgers & Rangers may try to just allocate their budget under the limit which would be around ~1.2 mil.
“Brian Cashman – “He’s from Japan? Forget it! I don’t want another Kei Igawa on my hands! Get me Freddy Garcia on line 1 & Paul Byrd on line 2 stat! Paul Byrd retired?”
Also get me theo on the line so I can trade all our prospects for that elusive #2!!!
JF,
I guess that’s the thing though when everybody offers close to the same money…..then it just becomes the players choice….if they really want him teu may have to break the rules
if they really want him teu may have to break the rules
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Well they definitely have to. The Yankees only have 250k to spend, unlike LA & TEX. That may play to the Yankees advantage if they are willing to go over.
“Well they definitely have to. The Yankees only have 250k to spend, unlike LA & TEX. That may play to the Yankees advantage if they are willing to go over.”
Lets say the Yanks really wanted him and just decided to bid 6 million to ensure they got him…..what would the penalty be? That they could only spend 250k next year?
lol @ even Kevin Long’s job not being in jeopardy, where the hell is accountability? One of the worst offensive team performances in playoff history and everyone is safe. What a joke.
Good evening,
YF, if you are still around. Very wise words
RE: throne.
JS,
I don’t believe they are, and I don’t care one bit if they have a different opinion. They are entitled to it, and I respect that. But there are better ways to make a point.
About Otani,
I hope they sign him, but I doubt that they go that route if that means getting penalized the next year. I would guess that it would depend on what’s available next season.
G Love,
Scrap heap, here we come!
Cashman is probably trying to talk Ben Sheets out of retirement as we speak
To be fair, this isn’t on the coaches as much as it is on the players. Or the GM that built that roster. Of course, he is on cover your butt mode.
blake October 21st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
“Well they definitely have to. The Yankees only have 250k to spend, unlike LA & TEX. That may play to the Yankees advantage if they are willing to go over.”
Lets say the Yanks really wanted him and just decided to bid 6 million to ensure they got him…..what would the penalty be? That they could only spend 250k next year?
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They can’t sign any player for over 250k the next cycle (year).
And they have to pay 100% tax on any amount over their limit this year.
JAP and YF, I will keep you updated on the progress of the baby bombers down here.
YankeeTrader,
I saw him play last year for a little while, good soft hands and frames the pitches relatively well. His swing still has a few holes though
So if the Yanks have 250k left under the limit for this year, and they paid Otani a 3.25 mil bonus, they would have to pay 3 mil in penalty taxes, so really 6.25 mil for Otani.
“They can’t sign any player for over 250k the next cycle (year).
And they have to pay 100% tax on any amount over their limit this year.”
That’s stiff….but thereby not b any players worth going over for next year…..they have to spend money somewhere to keep elite talent coming
jacksquat says:
October 21, 2012 at 6:32 pm
So if the Yanks have 250k left under the limit for this year, and they paid Otani a 3.25 mil bonus, they would have to pay 3 mil in penalty taxes, so really 6.25 mil for Otani.
Yea but he’d make the league minimum if he made it to the bigs leagues…..they need to take some chances like this for special talents
Imagine how fun it would be to think and talk about these players if the Yankees showed any inclination or interest.
Because if Cashman fires Kevin Long it makes the guy who hired him look flawed too. And we all know how quick Cashman is to own up to mistakes. He would never downplay the fault lines underneath this team. He would never suggest that everything is smooth sailing when a Tsunami is raging ahead.
Luis,
You are on target with Cashman’s act is to as cover his rear. No changes will occur because no mistakes were made. We will add valuable older players on the cheap like Ibanez. Look at his playoff success. Older and cheaper are the watchwords.
austinmac says:
October 21, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Imagine how fun it would be to think and talk about these players if the Yankees showed any inclination or interest
We didn’t like the price !
Giants right-hander Tim Lincecum will be available in trade and it will be interesting to see what kind of market develops for him. The Giants say his problems were strictly mechanical, but other teams wonder why his fastball dipped from around 96 mph to 92 mph for most of the season. The 28-year-old is due $22MM in the final year of his deal.
hmm…
blake October 21st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
jacksquat says:
October 21, 2012 at 6:32 pm
So if the Yanks have 250k left under the limit for this year, and they paid Otani a 3.25 mil bonus, they would have to pay 3 mil in penalty taxes, so really 6.25 mil for Otani.
Yea but he’d make the league minimum if he made it to the bigs leagues…..they need to take some chances like this for special talents
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I agree, just explaining it.
I don’t really expect Hal to approve anything like this when he is hell bent on getting under the luxury tax cap. It seems like he wants to cut costs but expect the same performance/income. I think it may bite him in the ass. Then again maybe he is setting things up to sell the team.
Mac,
Unfortunately it seems to be the case. G Love proposed a very smart way to deal both with the present issues and still have a comprehensive and coherent long term strategy. But doing something along those lines would be recognizing how flawed the current policy is. Cashman is way too arrogant to correct the course if that means, showing he was wrong all along.
I like GLove’s plan. It’s biggest drawback is it a departure from Cashman’s vision. We can’t have that.
Older and cheaper are the watchwords.
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Exactly – Yanks will add older and cheaper options such as Kuroda and Pettitte – like last year – and then Reed Johnson and Jeff Keppinger for the bench – - – -
JS,
What they are doing goes against a sale of the club. If revenues are down, the prize of the team will go down as well.
I like Keppinger. Unlike Chavez he will stay on the field and neutralize Alex Rodriguez.
They are not selling the team. I know a girl connected to the Steinbrenner family.
Yea but he’d make the league minimum if he made it to the bigs leagues…..they need to take some chances like this for special talents
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They should but I think Cash would rather spread the money around instead of putting it all on one player. We’ll see months from now when he signs with someone else. Cash will get asked about it and say “Passing on him had noting to do with his ability. Obviously the *fill in team name here* signed a high end talent in International Free Agency but I felt it was a better allocation of resources to acquire multiple players instead of one. We believe it reinforces the strength of our minor league system and provides numerous options”
Pat M. October 21st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I must have missed the Montero 2012 30 second highlight reel ????? Some still can’t let that go, and watch for the Mariners to be shipping him out of town in the next 2-3 months……..
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Nah, I think the M’s have a bit more patience than that
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Bret The Hitman October 21st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Montero had a .685 OPS and hit mostly as a DH
There’s not one person in the front office regretting that move and rightly so.
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I would hazard a guess that not one person in the front office feels the trade can be properly evaluated, at this point in time, especially considering….
- MP had surgery and hasn’t even pitched for the Yanks yet
- JM just completed his first big league season w/zero offensive help around him
I’m still hoping for a win-win…
- that MP heals fast and well and gets back to his “diabolical” self
- that JM grows into the player most thought he could be (and that he gets some help!)
Hal’s budget cuts may not be only in roster payroll. I’ve seen nothing to suggest any additional attention to other player development areas.
Last year’s salaries increased in the MLB 4.4 %. We’ll bring that down next year and thereafter.
Bret The Hitman October 21st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
They are not selling the team.
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As of right now they aren’t.
I would hazard a guess that not one person in the front office feels the trade can be properly evaluated, at this point in time
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A very, very, very reasonable statement. QFT and +100 – - – -
I’ve seen nothing to suggest any additional attention to other player development areas.
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That’s what I tried to explain to someone on here. They are saving money on a level they have never done before so does anyone actually believe they are going to turn around and beef up when they have spent the last few yrs cutting back on the draft and IFAs.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....son-102012
It’s biggest drawback is it a departure from Cashman’s vision. We can’t have that.
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Like it or not he’s going to continue with his plan. He wants to prove what he is doing works. We will see if he is right. It hasn’t gone according to plan though.
Yanks sign the no 2 and no. 4 international free agent last july and they are still getting killed for lack of initiative – - – -just cannot win I guess – - – -
Odds,
He claims that he is following Michael’s vision… Nothing further from the truth… He talks the talk, but he hardly walks the walk… At least I hope that he keeps getting players from the scrap heap and keeps the prospects, so when this thing explodes, at least we have the talent to rebuild the right way.
OK, allow me to rephrase, they are going to keep the team in the family hint hint wink wink
At least I hope that he keeps getting players from the scrap heap and keeps the prospects
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Normally he remains conservative but we have seen him stray from that and pull out a surprise: Grandy, Javy, Pineda. I think it depends on what he feels deep down about the offense. Right now he’s giving us the it was just a slump lines but is he saying that to not seem desperate or does he really mean it.
but is he saying that to not seem desperate or does he really mean it.
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Bubba Crosby – - – -
Stone,
One thing you are right… It is still to early to judge what they do this OS… I hope the make the right moves… Unfortunately I have zero faith in them… They appear in denial… There isn’t a worst blind person than those that choose not to see what is right in front of them… When and if I see a better MiLB coaching staff, that they try to address the obvious offensive problems this team has, then I will get behind this managing group again… Getting the talent is half the battle, the other one is making sure that that talent develops accordingly… Oppenheimer has done a very good job in the draft, only to see it squandered afterwards.
True which would mean a trade.
“No, they’re trolls. They want the reader to infer that because he didn’t have a standout rookie season, that the trade was justified. Not only trolling, but not very bright.”
What the heck? Citing a player’s statistics (a record of events) in support of an argument is now considered trolling?
Does anyone agree with Mr. Prufrock’s definition of trolling?
luis October 21st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Stone,
One thing you are right… It is still to early to judge what they do this OS… I hope the make the right moves… Unfortunately I have zero faith in them… They appear in denial…
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That is fair – especially what has been said over the past week from Yankees brass. I just do not put much talk with what Cashman, Levine and others say public – - – -
Regarding development of young prospects – I completely agree and have been frustrated to some extent. I still do not what to make of the Billy Connors “reassignment” and whether this means further changes. I am encouraged about Phelps though – and do like that they are pushing Adams and Heathcott in AZFL. Plus, I hope Austin just keeps on hitting – b/c that is one thing I do not think the development staff can *(&* up (hopefully).
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Yanks sign the no 2 and no. 4 international free agent last july and they are still getting killed for lack of initiative – – – -just cannot win I guess – – – -
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They could afford to sign the entire top 20. That list had like 10 short stops, can’t get 1? List also had 4 pitchers. None with the Yankees. There is also more of an unknown quality with latin IFA’s due to age concerns, the fact you’re signing them at 16 so they won’t even be in the system for 2 seasons, the difficulty of scouting all these kids, & the fact that players get in with a manager or the middle men and are steered towards certain teams. Not to mention the corruption!
Otani is a known quantity that has pitched on TV in a first world nation who is ready to join Charleston next season.
And it is a fact the Yankees have not been able to seal the deal on high profile players.
Against All Odds October 21st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
True which would mean a trade.
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That is my thinking right now – - – -December at the winter meetings should be very interesting – - – at least this is the time of the year to really play armchair GM.
Nick,
Last winter, his definition of a troll was anyone who didn’t think he’d be rookie of the year.
These are not the Bubba Crosby days. Look at what they say and have done. All actions are driven by cost and not income. In my view, if true, it is short sighted.
The Return of Stoneburner October 21st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Against All Odds October 21st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
True which would mean a trade.
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That is my thinking right now – – – -December at the winter meetings should be very interesting – – – at least this is the time of the year to really play armchair GM.
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Yes I could see something going on down there. It would at least give us something real to talk about
Is that progression or regression? I can’t tell.
Nick in SF October 21st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
“No, they’re trolls. They want the reader to infer that because he didn’t have a standout rookie season, that the trade was justified. Not only trolling, but not very bright.”
What the heck? Citing a player’s statistics (a record of events) in support of an argument is now considered trolling?
Does anyone agree with Mr. Prufrock’s definition of trolling?
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If this was bizarro world – then yes – I would – - –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_World
You can not give Brady time Blitz him
Cashman needs to call Godzilla and have him talk to the kid.
Nick why all the sharpshooting towards a certain target?
Tom,
That was uncalled for.
Nick,
More than citing statistics it is the way and the moment it is displayed… While I wouldn’t call that trolling, I would say that first there are better ways to make a point. Second, context… Lately, it seems that at the first mention of you know who, there comes an unwarranted swipe. The fact that one of those posters only shows up to do that, reinforces the notion. So in conclusion, I don’t think for one moment that they are trolls or that posting statistics to prove a point is trolling either. But only showing up to take a swipe at certain posters could be construed as trolling. Especially after an innocuous comment from Odds. As I said in a previous post, I don’t think is trolling but idiotic and disruptive to the flow of the conversation. Instead of talking of the issue at hand, the conversation got diverted without motive. Not to mention that that certain poster tone was kind of dismissive. And I am not talking about Bret.
luis,
It was called for. That’s what he said, and you did, too.
Tar, my good fellow, it pains me to take issue with anything you say after the pain of yesterday’s football results, but… what do you think of referees who only call fouls on one team? Or even acknowledge fouls by one team?
To put it another way, what have you said to Mr. Prufrock about his sharpshooting (if suggesting that a commenter on here “lack[s] the balls to take a stand on anything” or that Pat M. and/or Bret the Hitman and I are trolls is sharpshooting).
luis October 21st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Tom,
That was uncalled for.
Nick,
More than citing statistics it is the way and the moment it is displayed… While I wouldn’t call that trolling, I would say that first there are better ways to make a point. Second, context… Lately, it seems that at the first mention of you know who, there comes an unwarranted swipe. The fact that one of those posters only shows up to do that, reinforces the notion. So in conclusion, I don’t think for one moment that they are trolls or that posting statistics to prove a point is trolling either. But only showing up to take a swipe at certain posters could be construed as trolling. Especially after an innocuous comment from Odds. As I said in a previous post, I don’t think is trolling but idiotic and disruptive to the flow of the conversation. Instead of talking of the issue at hand, the conversation got diverted without motive. Not to mention that that certain poster tone was kind of dismissive. And I am not talking about Bret.
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Me? I think I only commented after J.A.P. called people trolls…
Tom,
I want you to find one post where I said that no believing in Montero being the rookie of the year was trolling and you may have a point. I don’t think you will find one. And I will be waiting for it. If you don’t find one, I hope that you will correct the record as result.
luis,
JAP is one of the most literate and savvy posters here, and you are, too. But you both said that. I didn’t think it was a bad deal, but it hasn’t worked out for anybody, yet. Wait and see, is what I said.
“it pains me to take issue with anything you say after the pain of yesterday’s football results,”
You mean 21-3 Stanford?
I disagree with his definition of trolls in this case. But lets be real, Mr. Prufock could post anything and you would analyze it with a micron microscope. Kind of beneath you my good man.
Tom
We all have posted things that could if brought back up would or could seem wrong. Does not mean it was necessary or called for.
No JS… What you posted was perfectly reasonable… Excuse me if you felt that I was referring to you… No I was talking about Pat M
luis, are they trolls or are they not trolls? If not, isn’t it out of line to call them that?
You’re one of the folks who wants fewer personal insults on here, right?
Tar, I was referring to multiple games in which evil triumphed over good, or at least the better.
“But lets be real, Mr. Prufock could post anything and you would analyze it with a micron microscope.”</i.
Not really. I agree with some of the things that Mr. Prufrock says and have over the years. But really, what's your point in questioning me and me only in this instance?
oops, bad use of italics. I’ll take all the blame for that.
Although I know I have bought up the issue of Montero and JAP before, but today just commented on the troll thing.
I didn’t really see any bad comments today.
JAP should consider that he brings up Montero quite often and has a rather extreme opinion of the trade, so he may bring some of this on himself, as far as people perhaps offering somewhat extreme views on the other side.
Let me put it this way, Tar: do you think it’s beneath Mr. Prufrock to be referring to regulars on here — Pat M., Bret the Hitman, me, and no doubt others — as trolls?
If not, why not?
Nick,
Read my post… There is your answer…
JF, we did sign an IFA shortstop Yancarlos Baez signed for $650K.
luis,
Won;t even look,because you probably didn’t say that but, damn, that was the motif for and against the trade. Anitis were/not trolling the pros. All I’m saying.
Given the red sox trade managers and executives for players annually, it got me to thinking. Can we spin cashman for a 36 year old minor league organizational player?
Tom,
I won’t get on the pros and cons of the trade again… What’s done is done… I do understand you position… But I don’t think taking a swipe at me or JAP would help things, that’s all I am saying.
I do consider you a very esteemed poster, I hope we can keep it that way.
“But really, what’s your point in questioning me and me only in this instance?”
Good question… But I will point out I also just questioned Tom. Anyway I would say it’s because I hold you both to a higher standard.
Also I believe He posted that many hours ago, the statue of post limitations has made it such that responding in such a negative way, when he is not even here ( at least i don’t think he is), is more of a negative reflection on you. Like I said beneath you. But then again if you felt personally slighted I guess do understand responding such as you did.
As for the trolls remark I already said I disagree. But if I think on it some more, I might start thinking about all the times Bret actually did just that.
…This is why we need a book club.
Bret has binders of women.
Not that I’m suggesting that as a reading option…
Just popping in to say hi and show everyone the latest prediction points chart. Remember that DLS was 1 point for correct team and 3 points for correct team and games to win; CLS was 3 and 5 respectively. WS will be 5 and 10 respectivey. So if you see that I made any mistake in points (a miracle if I didn’t) please let me know.
Haven’t gotten to read any posts yet. Today we had the kind of family reunion where there are people there you’ve never seen before. And we have a big Italian family. I was on the committee so it’s been a ton of work but it was wonderful. Our first (with that many family members going up the family tree.) We had one that just dealt with my dad’s 8 brothers and sisters and their kids. But this went up a level. So it was my dad’s father’s brothers and sisters and their families. Don’t mean to bore you.
Anyway, here’s the point chart. WS predictions will be taken as soon as we know who’s in the WS. It’s not quite as exciting of course as when the Yanks are in it, but I am going to see it through because someone here deserves wonderful Ritter Sports Bars.
I have a cousin who is a big Yankee fan and he came up to me and said “Who the heck was that team that played the Tigers in the ALCS?”
Oh well.
Oh yeah. GO GINTS!!!!!
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luis, I read your post, you said it’s not trolling. Good, we agree on that.
You and I have discussed the trade many times and I think I made it clear that I didn’t like it at the time and, had I been given a vote on it (without being given any inside information or opinions) I would have voted against it.
That said, can we agree that:
1) Supporting the trade does not make someone a troll.
2) Citing Montero’s results in Seattle in defense of the trade does not make someone a troll.
Tar,
You hold tomingeorgia and me to higher standards than Mr. Prufrock? Why would you hold him in such low esteem?
Regarding the statute [as per Seinfeld, there is no statue of limitations] of post limitations, nice try, but it was there when I refreshed the ‘Hud a little while ago. It’s not like I was quoting something from weeks or months ago, a la randy.
And no, I didn’t feel personally insulted in this instance, as I was not part of the conversation, but then I hope you didn’t feel personally insulted when I made my comment. Did you?
Also, if you didn’t predict and you want to get in on the WS, feel free. With 15 points at stake, it’s possible for someone who didn’t predict at all to this point, to win it all.
It’s interesting what a pitcher can do at the plate (Vogelsong) but our guys can’t.
It might have helped if our offense had been facing this version of Chris Carpenter, but probably not.
Nick,
That’s basically what I said. I don’t understand why you said that I don’t take a stand. I usually do. Could you elaborate?
Having said that I agree that supporting the trade and using stats to back it up is not trolling… Taking unnecessary swipes and some ironic comments toward certain posters is stupid and disruptive. You can quote me on that.
This is, let’s remember, a discussion board about the Yankees, baseball in general, and other sports, among other things.
Usually sports trash talk occurs between people who support different teams, but here it’s become more intramural. I engage in some trash talk from time to time, so I’m not going to pretend to be any kid of saint.
But if people want everyone to be nice and for there not to be any personal insults, demeaning comments, or anything else that lowers the fabled level of discourse, is that something they want for all or just for some?
This is a time when we should all be coming together with one voice to be pissed off that the Yankees haven’t already signed the Japanese flamethrower Otani. Let’s not lose sight of the big picture.
” I don’t understand why you said that I don’t take a stand.”
When did I say you didn’t take a stand? I wasn’t quoting you.
“You hold tomingeorgia and me to higher standards than Mr. Prufrock? Why would you hold him in such low esteem?”
No. To higher standards than what your posts suggest. And don’t put words in my mouth.
Personally insulted.. well maybe a little with that football results remark.
Tar, anytime you want to hold someone besides me and tomingeorgia to standards higher than any particular post suggests, please go ahead and do that. Throwing a yellow flag in my direction and ignoring much nastier fouls is not appreciated, if you’re somehow still not getting what I’m saying to you. See, I’m holding you to a higher standard too.
And if you missed the point of the football comments, I am sympathetic. Both teams — UNC and Cal — that I wish had won yesterday did not.
This has beeen one of the most heart wrenching string of posts I can recall in a long time. I’m emotional just reading the back and forth. There’s love, hate, honor, respect, disrespect, empathy, understanding, humility, and showmanship. Its all here. Its so beautiful. #baseballforum #emotionalrollercoaster
I feel your pain, Carlo. Maybe we should try a day with nothing but trash talk and insults.
A temporary sanctimony-free zone.
Hahaha. Meanwhile, this NLCS game 7 should be a classic. I see guys hitting .260 with some rbi and I think “wow, that guy is raking this postseason”.
Lets all get along and focus out energys on getting Hal to spend more money
Can’t understand why people in media keep saying Yankees should bring Martin back because there are no alternatives out there. A.J. Pierzynski made only 6 mil last yr compared to Martins 7.5 mil. Pierzynski hit .278….27 hr…..77 RBI…… .827 OPS. He’s a lifetime .300 hitter in post season career with a .372 OBP and .527 slugging percentage .892 OPS. Only thing Martin has over him is throwing out runners 30% compared to 24%. You offer AJ the 3yr 21 mil you offered Martin i think he would take it. I know he has a reputation of being an ahole but maybe this team needs a little of that abrasive, toughness. He would add some grittiness to this softee team.
Hey Blake were you the one on RAB that posted videos of Otani
Nick
I responded, but I read Carlo’s post before posting, laughed and decided not to post it.
I think and hope you know where I am coming from.
Tidrow – classic u mention that. Took my little guy to central park zoo today and AJ Pierznski was there with his wife and sons. Pretty sure I was the only one who recognized him, kept quiet, ignored him.
I’m telling you, we need a book club…at least then we’d be arguing about something classy.
for some reason ….i agree…i think aj would do well here
Tidrow October 21st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Can’t understand why people in media keep saying Yankees should bring Martin back because there are no alternatives out there. A.J. Pierzynski made only 6 mil last yr compared to Martins 7.5 mil. Pierzynski hit .278….27 hr…..77 RBI…… .827 OPS. He’s a lifetime .300 hitter in post season career with a .372 OBP and .527 slugging percentage .892 OPS. Only thing Martin has over him is throwing out runners 30% compared to 24%. You offer AJ the 3yr 21 mil you offered Martin i think he would take it. I know he has a reputation of being an ahole but maybe this team needs a little of that abrasive, toughness. He would add some grittiness to this softee team.
I’m going to say no re AJP. Defensively not good. Kind of a bad clubhouse guy as per most accounts. Would rather go younger and cheaper.
I don’t like A.J.P. (don’t any of you sensitive types take that to mean that I don’t like anyone with the anagram of A.J.P.) but he’s exactly the kind of guy that fans seem to suddenly appreciate once they’re on their team.
Eh, I’d rather have Martin back for one year than A.J.P. for three, but that might not be the choice on the table.
Yankees are big on clubhouse chemistry so Aj is probably a no no.
Another thing that makes AJ a good fit; the most he’s ever struck out in a season is 78 times. Again he only made 6mil last yr ! Guy is 36 yrs old but i think he hits well enough to be a DH in event one of Yankees young catchers comes on faster than expected.
“I think and hope you know where I am coming from.”
Well, I’m not 100% positive that I do, to be honest. If you would like to contact me privately to discuss it, feel free to do so.
Yankee clubhouse needs to be stirred up some if you ask me. Too many choir boys afraid of the big stage.
Shame,
That’s why you are a much needed poster around here
I don’t want AJP for three years or Martin for one unless he takes BUC money, which is his worth.
Bret Bret Bret – I see my name pop up all over this thread like I did something.
I don’t have time to keep up with all this Internet gossip in my life.
Here’s what I’m dealing with right now because I can’t find something I want. Every time I drive down the road I wanna jerk the wheel into a Goddamm bridge abutment! (That’s from Tommy Boy)
I’ve been searching for one simple item that is not for sale anywhere in the United States currently.
Compact Jr Camper Trailer 1971-1975 – VW dealerships sold them for VW buses. They are fiberglass camper shells about ’13 and can be towed with any size vehicle. They have queen beds, sinks, propane stoves, electricity, couches, tables. The restored ones have surround sound and retro interiors.
Bret,
Poor deprived boyl Keep looking.
Has it always been Bret The Hitman and not Bret the Hitman?
Either way, I hope this search for VW camper/trailer equipment is not in advance for crying poverty and not paying off our bet.
(see, that’s a little trash talk between me and Bret, and you’re not going to see him cry about it)
Has it always been Bret The Hitman and not Bret the Hitman?
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Are you implying we have been infiltrated by an imposter?
Funny how things are misconstrued… Good night everyone
Against All Odds says:
October 21, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Hey Blake were you the one on RAB that posted videos of Otani
Yea….I thought Id spread mg wisdom
Not an imposter, because I don’t think any imposter is smart or clever enough to produce that particular post in hopes of impersonating this particular person.
“Funny how things are misconstrued…”
Better, then, to clarify, lest you enable darkness and confusion.
Yes it has always been Bret The Hitman not Bret the Hitman. I like how the little ‘t’ and big ‘T’ separate. With 2 consecutive ‘t’ and ‘t’ my first name gets mispelled. Gardner spells his name with two t’s, mine has one.
Here is pic of a Compact Jr, not crazy about the design
http://www.fiberglass-rv-4sale.....ngevale-ca
Shame
I”m in on the book club can I suggest this as the first book.
http://www.buchladen-joerg.de/.....0norge.jpg
blake October 21st, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Against All Odds says: October 21, 2012 at 8:59 pm Hey Blake were you the one on RAB that posted videos of Otani
Yea….I thought Id spread mg wisdom
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Good move man. The videos and articles were great.
Next course of action is to bring Rich back here.
Here’s a similar fiberglass minicamper called a Boler but they’re mostly in Canada and they’re heavier than the Compact Jr
http://www.fiberglass-rv-4sale.....-bc-canada
Yea Rich needs to come back….
Nick in SF October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Not an imposter, because I don’t think any imposter is smart or clever enough to produce that particular post in hopes of impersonating this particular person.
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Deception knows no bounds Nick in SF. Wasn’t someone impersonating Trish months ago? I’ll never get why someone would take the time to do that
I’m proposing a rescue mission. Whose with me?
*crickets*
Bret
I don’t see any recent listings but maybe you can post a wanted classified here.
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/fo.....hid=675180
Deception may know no bounds, but the deceiver still has to be talented enough to pull it off. Anyway, in this instance I was just noticing something I hadn’t noticed before;no deception, just confusion.
Yes, someone was impersonating Trisha and someone else, I forget who, a few weeks ago. I can’t speak to the motive.
That’s the problem Tar, these things don’t go up for sale. They’re in vogue now and I just entered the market thinking I’m ahead of the game. You can live on these things and camp on the Appalachian Trail for free, get you some satellite internet and daytrade all day.
Odds, I’m with you. Rich in NJ is very much missed.
Speaking of crickets…
As long as we’re all being honest with our feelings — it’s refreshing, so that’s good — then let me express my dissatisfaction for how these conversations always go.
Someone jumps in to tut-tut about some little thing I said, then I point out how completely wrong they are and then the whole things melts into the woodwork. Crickets!
Just once I’d like someone to come out and say “sure, that other guy says some really nasty stuff, but I’m never going to call him out ‘cos he’s my buddy.” Just once!
Battle of the blake’s raged for a bit (Blake vs blake). The right blake prevailed.
Tar – It’s officially under consideration
You guys remember that time I impersonated Trish for like 3 years? Good times.
The one I miss is Doreen. Awesome baseball fan and gorgeous.
OMG, the fake Blake… only on Lohud.
I agree Bret they look really cool. There is some vintage stuff on EBay motors, but no Compact Jr.
Maybe everyday should be like Festivus. We can’t really do the Feats of Strength on here, but that frees up even more time to talk about the different ways we’ve disappointed each other.
I’ve never seen what Doreen looked like
yankeefeminista October 21st, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Odds, I’m with you. Rich in NJ is very much missed
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Alright YF is with me and so is blake
. * straps up puffs cigar* Anyone else?
Nick in SF October 21st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Maybe everyday should be like Festivus. We can’t really do the Feats of Strength on here, but that frees up even more time to talk about the different ways we’ve disappointed each other.
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Nick in SF October 21st, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Deception may know no bounds, but the deceiver still has to be talented enough to pull it off. Anyway, in this instance I was just noticing something I hadn’t noticed before;no deception, just confusion.
Yes, someone was impersonating Trisha and someone else, I forget who, a few weeks ago. I can’t speak to the motive
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Maybe its best that it remains an unsolved mystery
Tar,
I almost had one. Texted the guy in York, SC and he had sold his the day before. Since then my quest has morphed into an unhealthy addiction. I want to paint mine a loud yellow with a black pinstripe across the side. On the inside I want to restore everything like sink, fridge, wiring, gas lines etc. I would get really nice hardware and speakers. I would cover the cushions with plad fabric and finish the interior walls with a tacky 70′s looking wallpaper. I’d do flower pattern curtains that clash with the plad. I’d make the plad shades of 70′s weak green, brown, faint orange and cream on the bedding and sofa. I’d want the cabinetry to be new quality wood but I’d make it look aged and cheap.
Doreen looked like a younger version of this woman but with big piercing blue eyes.
http://www.traversecityfilmfes.....ndon_l.jpg
I’m in… I too miss Rich, even when he was being a lil b!tch. Sometimes we’re all lil b!tches.
*Sigh*
Doreen was our Susan Sarandon.
No. Doreen was better looking than that. She looked more like this actress but with bigger blue eyes.
http://images.buddytv.com/arti.....burgen.jpg
No, but she brought what Susan brings to everything: class, poise, and sass.
Man.. can’t we try to convince her to come back on a trial basis? I mean.. if we’re going on a rescue mission to find Rich, we might as well cast a wider net lol.
Nick
Did you get it out of your system? I’ve responded two or three times and decided not to post. Very Doreen like, I might add.
Doreen was great, I also miss Erica a lot too.
Don’t think so. I don’t want any jellyfish trapped in the net with a mermaid.
Considering that Doreen was stalked and hounded off of here by C R 9, didn’t we already say that discussing her in this way probably wasn’t a good idea? I thought this already happened.
I miss her comments here too, among many others. I’d like to see Rich in NJ come back as well. I missed him more when he left the first time.
Bret The Hitman October 21st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Don’t think so. I don’t want any jellyfish trapped in the net with a mermaid.
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I find that hard to believe.
That sounds like exactly the kind of thing you’d want.
You’re an interesting fella, Bret…. it wouldn’t surprise me if you liked a little sting with your fling.
Rich in NJ is not really MIA – Jerkface pretty much shares his views point by point. So Rich in NJ is accessible to all here on LOHUD.
Nick in SF October 21st, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Considering that Doreen was stalked and hounded off of here by C R 9, didn’t we already say that discussing her in this way probably wasn’t a good idea? I thought this already happened.
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Ooo.. my bad, sorry I did not realize that. Sad day.
Bret, lol, Rich and JF are nothing alike.
Who are we kidding? We all know that the yankees are NOT pursuing Shohei Otani. Every year we all drink the cool aid and cashman ends up going for the “low risk, high reward” players.
Tar, I’m just getting warmed up! I’m also trying to watch the baseball and football games and I have to keep at least some of my limited attention span to instantly change the channel at the first hint of the Springsteen song. It’s just too much. I can’t take it anymore.
But don’t hold back. If you want to say something, say it, either here or privately. You can always contact me via the email address associated with my flickr page (click link in my screen name here), just take that name and add @yahoo.com to it, and I will be happy to give you an unfiltered and thorough reply.
Or do it here. It’s not healthy to keep it bottled up inside, then you just risk exploding in fury later. Whatever you have to say, I think I can take it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afq1ddP65Bk
I think I saw them diverge in their thinking just one time but it was brief. And they rarely exchanged posts which was peculiar to me since both are quick on the draw and like to assert themselves in conversations because they have strong opinions. I’m 95% certain, if you want to talk to Rich in NJ, just summon Jerkface.
Bret, way to conflate two really distinctive individuals.
Jerkface and Rich in NJ both wanted Derek Jeter to be re-signed at closer to what they saw as his market value after the 2010 season, on the theory that the Yankees were operating on a budget and moneys not paid to Jeter could be paid to other players. There was a lot of pushback against them for that. Both strongly against the Montero trade. Not sure about similarities and divergences on other issues.
Personality wise, very different.
The only distinction is each LOHUD handle.
No to this kid.
I want the Yanks to sign Jake Peavy after the Chicago White Sox buy him out for $4M to avoid paying him $22M in 2013 so the rotation is Sabathia / Peavy / Kuroda / Pettitte / Hughes or Peavy / Kuroda / Pettitte / Hughes / Nova, Phelps, Warren, or Pineda if Sabathia misses all of 2013 due to surgery and rehab.
I would offer Peavy a one-year $18M contract so he still makes $22M total for 2013 ($18M salary + $4M buyout) because he needs to show he can repeat his 2013 after three years of not having a full season which to me is at least 25 starts and 150 innings pitched regardless of his ERA and WHIP. He’ll still make $22M but he needs to “do it again”.
Correction: He needs to show he can repeat his 2012.
Man.. can’t we try to convince her to come back on a trial basis? I mean.. if we’re going on a rescue mission to find Rich, we might as well cast a wider net lol.
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The first step would be banning the trolls here. I’m not blaming Chad because I think he is doing what he can and is trying to get it under control. But there must be a way to cut down on the ppl that are only here to harass others.
Nick,
You have my e-mail… Please feel free to contact me privately if you feel like it… I never got a response from my first e-mail, so I figured that you didn’t want to.
I do want Rich to come back… Never interacted with Doreen, but read some posts of hers when she was in the morning. I very seldom post in the morning, but I have only heard great things about her. So she must be the real deal.
So Odds, count me in for the recue operation.
Alright we have my buddy Luis. *fists pumps*
FTR,
JAP is my friend, and I have his back. Despite what many people think here, he is a class act. He sticks to what he believes, whehter is trendy or not, and that’s commendable. Very few people does that nowadays.
You sent me an email, luis? Do you remember when you did that?
I guess I should check that account more closely and look in the spam section more often.
“Or do it here. It’s not healthy to keep it bottled up inside, then you just risk exploding in fury later. ”
Hence why I typed it out and than erased. Not kidding about it being a Doreen trick, we have both discussed doing just that.
And besides It was nothing ..nefarious (is that the correct?) anyway. Just pointing out that I like to think your both my buddies and this feud has run its course. Time to move on, or not, of course your choice.
Thanks for the e-mail link. Maybe I’ll take you up on it, but not tonight. I’m out.
And in my best Erica voice
Goodnight Yankee fans.
No to this kid.
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This ‘kid’ doesn’t preclude any of the insane stuff you propose. Its an IFA, like any of south americans teams sign each year. Or like a kid out of the draft. Lmao, who says no to someone in the draft? “NO DONT DRAFT ANYONE!! WE GOTTA SIGN JAKE PEAVY!”
“JAP is my friend, and I have his back. Despite what many people think here, he is a class act. ”
Well, that’s pretty close to what I asked for at 9:52 pm. I can’t really say that Mr. Prufrock and I are currently friends now, but we used to have a much friendlier relationship, especially during a previous incarnation. I think he is often a class act; sometimes, in comments here, he is not. I don’t draw any conclusions about the flesh-and-blood person based on lapses here.
Yes Nick… A while back, in the time that I was being accused of being this famous poster… I took the liberty then to send you an e-mail to that e-mail of the flicker account.. In the end, I said that I took the liberty and apologized for it and said that I would understand that you didn’t reply. You never did, so I figured that you didn’t want to. In fact, after the worst was over, I actually thought that you had something to do with it. So that’s why a thank you once. When you seemed surprised I let it slide.
Since we’re airing stuff out can I see I cannot possibly fathom why or how some people here get so close so fast? Like why would anyone want to email jmills or even entertain any of his thoughts? Sides will naturally form due to the nature of debate, but some of you all take it to the next level. Then there are the oddities (mick & trisha, really?)
I would guess Trisha has a long island accent. I pictured Betsy having one.
Yay, Giants in 7!!!
How ‘both them SF Giants! I think most of us are pulling for them in this series, no?
Though on one level it would be galling if they someone shut down the Tigers’ offense and hit the Tigers’ pitching.
Jerkface, is this why you wouldn’t get those Muji pens for me? I would say to you what a very wise person taught me: open your heart and love will always find its way in.
Oh wait, that was Jane Seymour in some commercial for Sears or K-Mart jewelry. Never mind.
Um, Trish is from Rhode Island not Long Island.
I saw one Yankees blog started by a LOHUD defector and the only people who posted there were a group of like-minded refugees from LOHUD. No disagreements. No clashes. Posting utopia. The Internet creates weird little niches like that.
Something similar happened on the ESPN board when ESPN first started using message boards. There was a group of defectors (Yankees fans) who found a college board for some obscure sport with zero posts. In order to post there you had to request special permission via email through the founder. I forget what they called themselves but they gave themselves a name and the board was active and the ESPN board dried up for a little bit until one by one they returned. It was all so crazy.
jmills is a wonderful, sensitive soul.
Oh my God that’s worse.
Yes, rooting for and picked Giants in 7. Second favorite team after the Yankees.
jmills is a wonderful, sensitive soul.
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jmills is a blue jays fan who posts non-sense on here. A BLUE JAYS FAN. Stop entertaining these opposing fans! Much less a division rival. Especially one who writes in cryptic one sentence posts.
Anyway, have all a very good night
JF, aren’t you being a little parochial? A lot of people here are more oppositional among themselves and have no interest in Yankee camaraderie. I hardly see jmills as a problem.
luis, I’ll look through my inbox and see if I can find it. There’s always a chance that I read it when I was drunk. I can’t discount that.
luis, you too, and agree about Pruf.
Its just a little weird, the degree of friendliness.
OK, Duh Innings doesn’t want Otani, it’s really official now that the Yankees should try like hell to sign him.
Unfortunately they will probably put in a weak ass token bid like they did for Darivsh and try to tell everyone, “well we tried.” When in reality they didn’t because they’re too cheap now.
On July 31st, I picked the Giants to win the World Series.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....nt-2365539
Bret The Hitman October 21st, 2012 at 10:46 pm
I saw one Yankees blog started by a LOHUD defector and the only people who posted there were a group of like-minded refugees from LOHUD. No disagreements. No clashes. Posting utopia. The Internet creates weird little niches like that.
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Are you talking about iYankees?
Jerkface, it’s not written anywhere that this board is for Yankee fans, per se, just that it’s “A New York Yankees blog” — Pete Abe used to have a phrase about it being for discussion of the Yankees. Anyway, as odd as this delicate and sensitive soul often seems, he was very, very often more openly supportive of the Yanks and their chances this October than a lot of other people here.
I prefer these wonderful, sensitive souls who are able to restrain themselves from spazzing out and saying really nasty things about other people, if we’re ranking which types of sensitive souls make for a nicer atmosphere.
“Stop entertaining these opposing fans! ”
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hey now, I resemble that remark!
and yes, at times, I am very entertained here
I don’t know the name of it. I was scouring the Internets for trade rumors and stumbled upon it.
Benny Blanco October 21st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Who are we kidding? We all know that the yankees are NOT pursuing Shohei Otani. Every year we all drink the cool aid and cashman ends up going for the “low risk, high reward” players.
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It’s sad because it’s true.
Bret The Hitman October 21st, 2012 at 11:02 pm
I don’t know the name of it. I was scouring the Internets for trade rumors and stumbled upon it.
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It might be. I used to post on there but then it died down due to server issues. Most of the members went to another blog but one person remained and he mostly talks to himself the last time I checked a yr ago.
Bret, the other half of your prediction was a little off.
The part about Melky being the WS MVP could still come true. Maybe they’ve been giving him secret sim games to get him up to speed.
Melky —> October surprise.
Yeah I know I was really bullish on the Angels. I’m still shocked they couldn’t put it together.
he was very, very often more openly supportive of the Yanks and their chances this October than a lot of other people here.
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This is the most disturbing part. Why is a blue jays fan cheering on the Yankees? Simply to make friends? Truly weird.
Does anyone really understand why Canadians act the way they do?
Jerkface October 21st, 2012 at 11:06 pm
he was very, very often more openly supportive of the Yanks and their chances this October than a lot of other people here.
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This is the most disturbing part. Why is a blue jays fan cheering on the Yankees? Simply to make friends? Truly weird.
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Maybe he’s just friendly. Remember how hard it was for luis to finally fit in. I understand luis is a Yankee fan and mills is a Blue Jays fan but….
I think one person accused him of being C R 9 but didn’t have anything to go on to back it up.
The radius of a Canadian or Minnesotan’s personal space is very small. When they talk to me I feel like they want to do the Inuit nose kiss.
It creeps me out.
This is the most disturbing part. Why is a blue jays fan cheering on the Yankees? Simply to make friends? Truly weird.
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Why do Yankee fans shout down other Yankee fans in here? That too me is truly weird, and seems to be solely a Lohud phenomenon.
*to me
Jerkface,
We can’t “entertain” fans of “division rivals” here? Really?? So much for my notion of you as a global citizen.
Really, I appreciate what you bring to this space, and applaud your unconditional intolerance for both gender and racial bias, but, you do seem to suffer from a kind of modern-day “enlightenment” pro-rationalist smugness, but perhaps that’s my own bias speaking
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J. Mills, I would say, you are not built to appreciate. He has a brilliant – yes, brilliant – literary mind. You don’t care for poetry I take it, which is fine. But I don’t particularly care for post-modern zombie or “undead” serial television, myself, but I actually enjoy – and certainly don’t resent – the interactions that stray somewhat from the linear, here. I sometimes enjoy even more discussions I don’t enter into, because I’m interested in storytelling and how people express themselves, as well as their interactions and how language, word choices, represents identity… these things are not part of your DNA, I take it. That doesn’t mean they are not of interest to others….
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As for the manufactured discussion earlier that took place here, I will say that this place’s charm is it’s organic twists and turns, as well as it’s hardcore and passionate baseball discourse. It’s weakest point, for me, is its insistence on constant self reference, and the demand by some to respond and join in this self referencing… like some white collar “Jack” from Lord of the Flies… in order to…?… I’ll leave that to the psychologists… but thank you to those who spoke on my behalf here. I really have no interest in being a topic of discussion, but I’m also not inclined to dilute my opinions to satisfy some false idea of a “united/communal front” or whatever transparent garbage was being promoted here earlier… I dislike no one here, although I have a strong distaste for the Yankee General Manager, but I would imagine that is not news…
Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming…
That too me is truly weird, and seems to be solely a Lohud phenomenon.
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Nahhhhh go anywhere else. NYYFANS NoMaas RAB wherever. Divergent opinions will result in friction.
Hear, hear on luring Rich in NJ away from River Ave, or at least, getting him to two-time….
JF, but here the divergent opinions are taken so personally. People internalize everything, whereas elsewhere it is always more about the discussion. Lohud is a different bird, which is both the good and bad of the site. Plus no moderator equals a very oddly negotiated space.
Is Melky eligible for WS? I thought he was through for the year.
Well I have to say I think you’re simply choosing not to see the same stuff at other places. NYYFANS has moderation, so things have to be more subtle, but on RAB there is outright mocking of posters & boy howdy I take it you have never posted on NoMaas?
JAP has joined the mission. Five ppl maybe enough to bring him back
There’s a bizarro world LoHud where everyone agrees?
No hell below it. Above it only sky.
yankeefeminista October 21st, 2012 at 10:46 pm
jmills is a wonderful, sensitive soul.
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Yes. He also happens to be intellectually brilliant.
Compass, Jmills, speaking for myself, I enjoy your presence here. Even though Tyler is a Yankee fan, he brings his local S. Louis perspective, which is very interesting. Homogeneity is a major bore, again, speaking strictly for myself.
Good night, all. And go Giants! I long to be rescued from having to root for Detroit.
Against All Odds October 21st, 2012 at 11:24 pm
JAP has joined the mission. Five ppl maybe enough to bring him back
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ahem…not to toot my own horn, but I have been pining for his return for a couple of months
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G’nite.
I read RAB and its comments. Read NoMaas but not the comments. I doubt posters there compete with each other over who is a better “real” Yankee fan. That has to be a Lohud exclusive. And a truly inane one.
“Is Melky eligible for WS? I thought he was through for the year.”
He’s been eligible to join their PS roster since they won the NLDS. They reinstated him onto their 40-man roster when they had to to preserve their contractual rights to have an exclusive window to negotiate with him after the WS ends. But they’re not going to activate him during this PS, unless it’s, as I said, an October surprise.
Yes, Rosy you of course are always welcome too. Any minor league news to share?
Good night buddy.
Maybe he’ll come back on his own one day
Ah, Nick, you got my hopes up, but I doubt we see him.
“I doubt posters there compete with each other over who is a better “real” Yankee fan. That has to be a Lohud exclusive. And a truly inane one.”
Amen! I remember when someone on here questioned my “passion”! Shocking stuff.
LOHUD isn’t a unique snowflake, YF, sorry. That kind of stuff happens everywhere.
In fact I think this is a special lohud fallacy.
Stop Jerkface, you’ll ruin Christmas.
Dude, FTR, I have been posting on multiple Yankee sites for years, and I have never seen the kind of questioning of fandom that I see here.
Bret, are you just dumb or dumb? Ruin Christmas? I like divergent opinions, but as usual you miss the point. As you were.
JF, do you have a background in Gender Studies?
Tar, come back.
lol.
Yellow cards and red cards all around.
JF, do you have a background in Gender Studies?
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No.
Bret, why am I not surprised? Just continue to objectify women.
Anyway, JF as per your earlier comment. If you weren’t aware of it, we did sign an IFA short stop this year in Yancarlo Baez.
See now why would anyone consider Bret a troll?
Anyway, JF as per your earlier comment. If you weren’t aware of it, we did sign an IFA short stop this year in Yancarlo Baez.
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Yes but I was referring specifically to top 20 prospects. Stoneburner brought up the signing of the #2 & #4 prospect on a list of 20.
Melky was eligible to return in the NLCS but the Giants said they were not going to have him play again this year.
And if Cashman is all about “low risk, high reward” players, Melky fits the bill.
Although he is not really big, nor hairy sans the beard.
I
manufacturedmade the Melky reference because Bret The Hitman predicted that Melky would be WS MVP on July 31. Melky is on the 40-man, they could have played him in the NLCS and they can put them on their WS roster if they want to. But they don’t want to, unless they change their mind. Barring injury, don’t see that happening.Melky forever.
Nick, my understanding was that Melky was done for the postseason. Thanks for the clarification.
JF, whose top 20, BA’s?
js, but he can hit from both sides and can hit breaking balls. Guess that doesn’t fit in with our platoon happy fastball hitting team.
Woah, a post just disappeared…
“See now why would anyone consider Bret a troll?”
If we want LoHud to be more like other sports chat boards, then we need more trash talking, not less, no? Anyway, I already issued yellow and red cards for comments issued by Bret and to Bret, so I’ve done my bit to maintain civility and decorum.
Besides, Bret paid his real-life debt to me and will hopefully pay his next one too. Can’t be messing with Bret The Hitman.
Melky would fit in just fine, he just needs to stop ordering stuff from fake websites.
YF ~
Surprised there were no AFL games today but, yesterday wasn’t so good for M’s pitchers (Paxton and LaFromboise). Stefen Romero (M’s Minor League Player of the Year) had a nice day at the plate though – 3/5 with a homer and 2 RBI
Scorpions and Javelinas meet on Tuesday
Rosy, I guess Sunday is the day of rest. Looking forward to Tuesday. Also some of the Caribbean league games are being televised on ESPN3.
JS, actually, two posts disappeared, and rightfully so.
Rosy, how many innings did Paxton pitch?
Well, one post was by Bret, something about Melky being a sensitive soul? Was there something wrong with it?
I can’t believe I’m sitting here reading all this drivel after watching Walking Dead & Homeland back to back.
G. Love October 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 am
I can’t believe I’m sitting here reading all this drivel after watching Walking Dead & Homeland back to back.
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It’s one of the down moments during the off season and we all know there will be more. I did enjoy some posters getting stuff off their chest maybe we can make it an event. Not every day but certain nights when it’s slow.
Odds,
It’s been much nicer in here since the games are over. You can actually talk about the team, it’s flaws and what you would like to see them do without having fecal matter flung at you.
JF, Baez may not be a top 20 in some eyes (BA’s list), but I recall that the “dominican prospect league” site called him the most projectable of the dominican infielders and highest ceiling defensively. So, we shall see…
JS, no, the other two posts that were deleted. But never mind. I don’t want to give them any extra attention.
I will admit the discussions have been a lot better. It felt like everyone was working on a campaign the other day when you laid out your plan. It was interesting.
YF ~
Paxton gave up 4 runs in 1.2 innings (47 pitches)
I don’t get ESPN3
What was the second post to disappear? The one asking Bret if he’s dumb or dumb is still here.
G. Love, you’ve got a spine and a pulse, let’s mix it up!
No doubt the player the Yankees got may have good qualities or whatever, and prospect lists are subjective. The point is that the Yankees could sign the top 5 consensus guys, or the top 10, or the top 20. They don’t. They have their reasons no doubt, and some of them may be out of their control.
The two sexist ones, Nick. The second one advocating violence against women. Ok, I’m done with this.
JF, I don’t disagree; with our finances, the more the merrier considering how many will actually make it. However the rankings of somewhat of a crapshoot. I am just saying that Baez may turn out better than any other SS on the BA list. Then he may not even end up playing the position if he gets too big.
*are somewhat
Oh, the joke he recounted. Gotcha. Someone complained to Chad about THAT? The context was pretty clear to me, he was giving an example of the mores of the South, including redneck humor. Bad taste, maybe, but you think Bret The Hitman was advocating violence against women? Really?
What the LoHud statute of limitations on ugly, sexist remarks, btw?
Rosy, I think you can also get ESPN3 online.
Nick, whatever.
Nick,
I can’t scrap with you. I’ve always had your back and if you ever dared to defy me I would promptly stab you in the back.
Feeling like I missed something here. Bret was making misogynist jokes? I thought all he wanted was a special retor camper to travel the earth in spreading the truth about the deadliness of grains.
I’ve always had your back and if you ever dared to defy me I would promptly stab you in the back.
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G. Love October 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 am
Feeling like I missed something here. Bret was making misogynist jokes?
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He made a few comments toward YF. I won’t get into it but one was a thing that every women goes through.
“Nick, whatever.”
Exactly. Whatever. But it’s awful that Bret The Hitman made a sexist remark.
G. Love, I appreciate it. And Bret made one pretty rude remark and one that I guess was just as offensive depending on one’s perspective. And now they’ve been scrubbed from the record. I feel like I’m getting a glimpse behind the scenes at the Kremlin or something.
Oh…That’s not cool. Yanksfem is the classiest act on the board. Shame on him…not Spencer, actual shame.
shhh, first rule of LoHud Club, no one talks about LoHud Club.
Cashman’s comments about the possible trading of A-Rod left the door swinging both ways. That’s because this move will be handled by Hal and Comp. 1st it was Soriano, then Ichiro, and Now A-Rod. Cashman continues to lose the autonomy he was promised by George.
I dig it when Nick in SF throws out red, yellow, blue cards for those who he deems worthy of such an honor………Penalty box of sorts…..I know when he flagged / carded me it got my attention…….Almost like the LoHud Bobbie !!!!! Good stuff Nick, and I’m don’t see myself as a troll and sorry Luis if I rocked the boat today ?????
Good night everyone.
DONNYBROOK October 22nd, 2012 at 12:53 am
Cashman’s comments about the possible trading of A-Rod left the door swinging both ways. That’s because this move will be handled by Hal and Comp. 1st it was Soriano, then Ichiro, and Now A-Rod. Cashman continues to lose the autonomy he was promised by George.
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Well, Cash told Arod if he opted out of his original contract he would not be offered another. Arod opted out, Cash didn’t make any offer (iirc), then Arod ditched Boras and worked out a deal above Cashman’s head. Since Cash wasn’t responsible for Arod’s current ridiculous contract, I think it would be fitting if those who are responsible for it had to deal with getting rid of him.
I still don’t think he’ll be traded though.
Good evening, Pat M. Now it all comes full circle.
I’ve never handed out a blue card. That would be worse double secret probation. Once you see one of those, you’ll be out of here faster then blank through a goose.
Good news for you: there’s an emerging consensus that a Yankee fan is allowed to like or dislike a trade of a player to another team without being a troll. So you’ve been acquitted.
Nick in SF….Thanks buddy for the reprieve…….Early Delta flight out of John Wayne tomorrow with LGA as my destination…..Hope I do well at the homerun contest in West Haven nest weekeend…….SF Giants have covered my red ink that was the story for October and righted my account…..You are the man Nicky and don’t let anybody here tell you something different……
Pat M, have a great trip. I know it was supposed to include a WS game at Yankee Stadium, but it wasn’t to be this year. I once saw a West Haven Yankees game when I was a wee lad. Don’t know if I saw any future ML players that day. I wonder if ancient MiLB rosters are online somewhere.
Night all and It’s my hope that tomorrow my stewardess will toloerate my need for Baileys and coffee with my breakfast….Northwest always had the best desserts however know Delta bought thme out and now we find out as the rubber hits the road………Plat Medallion carries little clout if any when if comes for window seating in the first 3 rows……..Debbiejean from Austin, simplpy make it happen…..I;m in seat row 1 seat B and want tio be seated Row……..Thank yoo for all your participation on so manycomplex levels,,,,,,,,We’re lucky
Good morning everyone…..
take comfort that Cashman and his brain trust are locked away somewhere deep in Hal’s money bin this morning to plan the 2013 budget and to decide which stop gap outfielder and which scrap heap pitchers to pursue .
Will bobby abreu be available? Should they bring back Ibanez? How can they fit Jonesy and Freddy on the roster? What about Ben Sheets ? How can they spin it all to the public? All these iimportant questions will be answered in due time my friends
Cashman was quoted as defending the roster being the oldest in baseball saying it doesn’t matter. Remember age is a state of mind and a state of low cost. When everyone else thinks a player is washed up, we know better. Now, that’s a GM.
I see JF was spreading his knowledge at RAB last night . Sign Otani!……
The one thing I would ask of Cashan this winter is to spare us the the spin…..when somebody asks what he’s up to just say he’s working on te team like every other GM does…. Spare us the “we hate the prices” garbage….nobody wants to hear that
Good morning.
Cashman-If your thinking cheap, have I got a free agent catcher for you.
David Ross, Age: 36, 2012 Salary: $1.625M, 2012 OPS: .770, Career OPS: .769: Ross is probably the most intriguing name on this list to me. He’s never been a starting catcher, but over the past four years he has consistently hit above league average and is a very good defender. It’s possible that given a full time opportunity that he could have a good year and he would come very cheap as well. If the Yankees want to begin to work Romine into the major league roster it may be best to pair him with Ross. It’ll also save them quite a bit of money compared to Martin.
http://bronxbaseballdaily.com/.....-catchers/
Against All Odds October 22nd, 2012 at 12:43 am
G. Love October 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 am
Feeling like I missed something here. Bret was making misogynist jokes?
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He made a few comments toward YF. I won’t get into it but one was a thing that every women goes through.
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Dinging a car while parallel parking?
What the hells been going on here, btw? I feel like LoHud has gone absurdist on me…
Lol he always complains about the prices. No one wants to het fleeced but every yr it’s the same thing.
@Joelsherman1: Column http://t.co/BMt03gPz What if Yankee Stadium – its customers and dimensions – are both #Yankees help and hindrances
Lol it was a little harsher than that Shame.
*you’re*
Anyway here’s the cheap, opening day,starting offense next year
1b-Tex
2b-Cano
SS-Nunez—>Jeter
3B-Adams
C-Ross
RF-Hunter
CF-Gardner
LF-Whomever comes back in a Granderson trade
DH-ARod until he demands a trade for batting 8th!
Pat M. October 22nd, 2012 at 1:36 am
Night all and It’s my hope that tomorrow my stewardess will toloerate my need for Baileys and coffee with my breakfast…
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This is why Pat M. won the accolade for LoHuds best inebriated poster. Let’s all use Pat M.’s example as a reminder that we too can carve out our own little place here on the blog
blake October 22nd, 2012 at 8:54 am
@Joelsherman1: Column http://t.co/BMt03gPz What if Yankee Stadium – its customers and dimensions – are both #Yankees help and hindrances
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Okay this is getting absolutely ridiculous… when the fans are a storyline you know you ate it hard.
The last time the Stadium and fan base were a talking point was the beginning of 2009 when the NYS first opened… it’s amazing how winning a championship drove that storyline into the ground.
This is complete BS.
Against All Odds October 22nd, 2012 at 8:54 am
Lol it was a little harsher than that Shame.
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Oh dear.
I hope she didn’t take it too personally. Frankly, it’s hard for me to understand why anyone takes anything personally on here.. I think the ‘ignore function’ we have in our brains is really important to deploy when roving the blog.
Blake-
YS is a hindrance.
Tex worked in the offseason on trying to hit the other way. After a short time, failing at it, it was back to aiming for the short RF porch-swing hard and hit it over the shift. Usually he rolled over on the pitch-grounding out to the 2B/short RF’er or popped it up.
Granderson-He could go the other way but it’s pretty much all or nothing. Get lucky and guess right, or miss terribly on the CU and strike out.
Swisher-One of the best options to work the count and get on base via the walk, but in a “walk” year you want to maximize the reward so swing from the heels and pad your homeruns to the short porch for that big next contract.
Annnnnd.. I’m officially talking to myself.
I still think we should institute merits and demerits. If someone says another poster deserves one or the other, we can all discuss and keep track like we would with GTLU.
Whoever has the most merits at the end of the year gets….. something.
“The Yankees were swept in the ALCS and were treated like something the Houston Astros dragged in. Yes, of course, we in the media contribute and the Yankees stoke all the fires with their championship-or-bust mantra and mandate. But it is hard to ignore what this means to the fans and that Stadium.”
How kind of Joel to take a small, minute portion of responsibility….
She did take it personally because Bret did cross the line with what he said. The comments were removed that tells you how serious it was.
I have noticed our comments appear to be under moderation lately.. I wonder who is moderating us.
Drat.
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