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The World Series and the Presidency

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 23, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Just random World Series information from Major League Baseball. Something light at the end of this day that was light on Yankees news. There’s no political statement here, just facts that ultimately mean nothing.

Since 1908, the first year both a World Series and presidential election took place, 26 World Series have been played during a presidential election year. During these years, American League teams have had the edge with 17 wins (65%) while National League teams have won nine times (35%). Below is information about World Series and Presidential election results over the past 104 years.

American League
Republican candidates more frequently win the Presidency when an American League team wins the World Series.
• A Republican candidate has won 10 times (10-for-17 or 59%) when an American League team won the World Series during an election year: Warren G. Harding (1920); Calvin Coolidge (1924); Herbert Hoover (1928); Dwight Eisenhower (1952, 1956); Richard Nixon (1968, 1972); Ronald Reagan (1984); George W. Bush (2000, 2004).
• A Democratic candidate has won seven times (7-for-17 or 41%) when an American League team won the World Series during an election year: Woodrow Wilson (1912, 1916); Franklin Roosevelt (1932, 1936); Harry Truman (1948); Bill Clinton (1992, 1996).

National League
Democratic candidates more frequently win the Presidency when a National League team wins the World Series.
• A Democratic candidate has won six times (6-for-9 or 67%) when a National League team has
won the World Series during an election year: Franklin Roosevelt (1940, 1944); John F. Kennedy (1960); Lyndon B. Johnson (1964); Jimmy Carter (1976); Barack Obama (2008).
• A Republican candidate has won three times (3-for-9 or 33%) when a National League team has won the World Series during an election year: William Taft (1908); Ronald Reagan (1980); George H.W. Bush (1988).

Two-Term Presidents
• World Series wins by the American League have preceded the elections for five of the six two-term elected presidents: Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon; George W. Bush; Woodrow Wilson; Bill Clinton.
• Ronald Reagan was the only president to be elected to two-terms to have a different League winning in each year he was elected: Philadelphia Phillies (1980); Detroit Tigers (1984).

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109 Responses to “The World Series and the Presidency”

  1. bruceb October 23rd, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    REPOST

    Guess I’m desperate for chocolate!

    bruceb October 23rd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    Trish,

    Don’t know if you are around tonight – and it probably doesn’t matter much anyway – but I had the Giants to beat the Cards 4-3 and not 4-0.

    Here’s the post:

    bruceb October 13th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    Trish,

    I’m going to let my heart rule my head and pick the Yanks, even though as a betting man, I make the Tigers 4-6 favorites.

    Yanks 4-3
    Giants 4-3

  2. jacksquat October 23rd, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Keep in mind that Granderson has only one year left at 15 mil (assuming the Yankees pick up the option). He doesn’t have huge value in a trade with only one year left at a fair price.

  3. Bx is Burning October 23rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Was pulling for (my grandpa’s New York) Giants even before this correlation.
    Go Giants!

  4. J. Alfred Prufrock October 23rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Giants in six!

  5. Ys Guy October 23rd, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    as one how lived in renesslaer county for several years i have to root for the troy trojans over the tigers in the WS. (despite the fact that i like smokey leyland and miguel cabrera very much)

    troy and worcester, mass are ‘honorary members’ of the national league to this day despite having their teams taken and reformed in harlem and philadelphia respectively.

    Go Giants!

  6. Against All Odds October 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    I’m going with the Tigers.

  7. Bring in the Goose October 23rd, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Game 4 1996 is on YES right now.

    Raines, Lloyd, Boehringer, Weathers…. Wow.

  8. blake October 23rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    “Keep in mind that Granderson has only one year left at 15 mil (assuming the Yankees pick up the option). He doesn’t have huge value in a trade with only one year left at a fair price.”

    They have already picked up the option and 40 homers from CF probably has more value than it would seem even for a year…..you’re not getting a king’s ransom no…..but he could bring a good player or two Id think

  9. jacksquat October 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    Yes, a good player or two, but not like a Profar.

  10. blake October 23rd, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    jacksquat says:
    October 23, 2012 at 9:14 pm
    Yes, a good player or two, but not like a Profar.

    Well of course not a Profar….He’s the best prospect in baseball…..but that doesn’t mean Grandy doesn’t have value

  11. Ys Guy October 23rd, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    my dad was a giants man, after they left he decided to root for the hated yankees to spite the national league.

    much to my benefit….

  12. jacksquat October 23rd, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    I didn’t say he didn’t have value, I said he doesn’t have “huge value”. :)

  13. austinmac October 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Ys Guy,

    Good story. Whatever it takes.

  14. Tar October 23rd, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Valentine— the gift that keeps on giving

    “David Ortiz came back after spending about six weeks on the disabled list and we thought it was only going to be a week. He got two hits the first two times up, drove in a couple runs; we were off to the races. Then he realized that this trade meant that we’re not going to run this race and we’re not even going to finish the race properly and he decided not to play anymore. I think at that time it was all downhill from there.”

  15. luis October 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Good evening,

    JS,

    Granderson has value, a lot of value. 40 homers CFs don’t grow on trees…Granted he may not be worth Profar, but he sure can bring back value.

    Y’s guy,

    Surprising story… I thought that Giants fans became Mets fans…Curious and fortunate ;)

    Primo,

    I don’t really care that much about who wins the WS :(

  16. ron October 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Cano gets a profar,and more,granderson a good enough prospect.
    We have to stop paying players for what they have already done,and get the most value from them.
    With cano,and granderson,i think it is a trade.
    With hughes,i think it is a team friendly extention,if not,a trade for a bat,maybe a headley.
    Look at the offenses that won the ws,and made it to the ws the last few years.
    It is great pitching,and a good enough offense,but most important,it is getting hot at the right time.
    We don’t need a 30 hr,20 million dollar player at every position.
    If we can trade cano,and granderson,for 3 top prospects,wich i think we can easily do,we have to do it.
    Then look for team friendly deals like melky,and maybe jham.
    I’d do a 4/100 million for jham in a minute,but don’t know if that get’s it done.
    Cano will cost more anyways,and jham gives you more production.
    Melky makes contact.
    If we can’t get jham,and hughes get’s too expensive,maybe we flip hughes for a nice bat.
    Headley would be perfect,then get a 2b,cf,rf, prospect by trading cano,and granderson.
    If mason williams is the real deal,maybe we pass on the cf prospect,and look at another position,or include mw in a trade to get a better cf prospect.

  17. RadioKev October 23rd, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Now I know who I’m rooting for to win the Presidency :O

  18. blake October 23rd, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    I can’t see Bobby V ever getting another managing job…..he’s a dinosaur and a dinosaur that’s a pain in the butt….I think he and Ozzie both are in forced retirement

  19. luis October 23rd, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    By the way…Has Valentine been fired?

  20. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    well farrell is the new mgr…

  21. luis October 23rd, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    My bad…He was…TheSux want Farrel to be the manager

  22. Against All Odds October 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    Farrell was introduced today

  23. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    man this place has changed…

  24. Against All Odds October 23rd, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Francesa – They aren’t going to trade Cano for prospects

  25. Madrugador October 23rd, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Any guesses on how long before Mustelier gets his shot in the Bigs?

  26. Against All Odds October 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Changed how Mick?

  27. luis October 23rd, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    Madrugador October 23rd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
    Any guesses on how long before Mustelier gets his shot in the Bigs?

    ============================

    Never? Just kidding ;) He might get a shot next season in a bench role or a mid season call up

  28. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    the lack of big names here for whatever reasons has brought the conversations to a standstill

  29. Against All Odds October 23rd, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    What do you think is the cause of that happening?

  30. luis October 23rd, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Mick,

    Wait until the OS gets in to full gear and you’ll see…There isn’t much to talk about, unless i you want to keep on whining about a very disappointing performance by the Yankees ;)

  31. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    i think what held this place together was the fighting.
    when many decide to take it personal they leave.

  32. Madrugador October 23rd, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    You’d think a guy with .303/.359/.455 and plays the corners would at least get a look unless this hoped for resurgence of Arod materializes.

  33. Against All Odds October 23rd, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Maybe but also it’s the off season, some ppl just leave on their own, and sometimes ppl need a break from the blog.

  34. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    the yanks usually lay in the weeds and wait on their move(s)….like last year…when they do it in a flurry….prognosticating on hamilton and upton is getting old.

  35. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    speaking of weeds, bret will be missed.

  36. luis October 23rd, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    Was Bret banned?

  37. austinmac October 23rd, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    The Yankees have been staying in the weeds the last few years. The prices are too high.

  38. Triple Short of a Cycle October 23rd, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    He was banned for making a time of the month joke? Really? Yet known stalkers continue to be allowed on here??

  39. Tar October 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    “i think what held this place together was the fighting.”

    Ahh poor Mick—feeling all melancholy because your bud WC Y f was banned. And maybe a little worried because Bret got banned? Well at least you were honest and let your true colors show.

    See Mick I’m doing my part. :D Btw this is a hit and run because I’m tired and going to bed.

  40. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    tar you are all hit and run…stay around and show your class

  41. Tar October 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    Save your shots for the next time I’m around.

  42. luis October 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    Good night Tar….I will do the same…Night all

  43. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    you are one judgmental dude….or are you a woman as MTU stated?

  44. Tar October 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Good night Luis

    And good night Yankee fans.

  45. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    you took the 1st shot grudgeholder

  46. Jerkface October 23rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    Yet known stalkers continue to be allowed on here??

    It is a shame that Mick is allowed to keep posting after he stalked Betsy, but C R 9 is only ‘allowed’ to be on here because he puts a lot of effort into evading IP bans. Thats why he constantly has to come up with new user names, because he keeps getting banned. Not much LOHUD can do about that.

  47. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    if stalking is responding to posts than call it what you like…

  48. Jerkface October 23rd, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    Your treatment of Betsy crossed a line into weird, you didn’t just respond to her, you constantly went out of your way to respond to her, ask about her, mention her unprovoked. I’d call it obsession at the very least.

  49. Shame Spencer October 23rd, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    I wonder if Bret really managed to get himself banned. Maybe we can ask Nick.. I’m sure Bret owes him money (knowing Nick) or chocolate (knowing LoHud) or h0okers or something (knowing Bret), so I perhaps he has a way to reach out to him.

    Incidentally, is there a reason we put spaces between he-who-must-not-be-named’s (the poster not the player) old handle?

  50. The Return of Stoneburner October 23rd, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Twins interested in pitching – - – -any takers for Revere and/or Willingham????

  51. mick October 23rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    wcyf in the house…

  52. Against All Odds October 23rd, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    You sure about that

  53. be reasonable... October 23rd, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    I am not a Cashman hater by any means but this is an unfortunate denial of a fundamental reality:

    “Despite the growing concern over his team’s aging stars, Brian Cashman said he will not go for youth over experience this offseason.”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2ABMsQpJm

  54. Bronx Jeers October 23rd, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Shame,

    I believe Bret has a zero balance with Nick but Nick can contact him to see what’s up.

    As for the 2nd matter, I believe the posters name in original format does not pass through the Great LoHud Filter.

  55. Benny Blanco October 23rd, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Question:

    What would Eduardo Nunez’s offensive stats be if he played 162 games this year?

    Could he hit more than 15 homeruns? Would he bat 280 and above?

  56. Jerkface October 23rd, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    He has never hit double digit HRs in his career, though his batspeed and the hard contact he makes could be projectable power as he draws to his prime. I think .280 avg is reasonable, he did hit .290 in limited time this year. He hit .270 once he got regular playing time last year (From jeters injury to end of the season).

    15 HRs is asking a lot. More than 15 very unlikely. I think he could hit around ~10 HRs and improve on that number as he gets more experience.

  57. Bronx Jeers October 23rd, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    Cashman: ” I’m a Russel Martin fan”

  58. ron October 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    Nunez has to get better against rh pitching to be an everyday option.
    Not saying he can’t or won’t,just that he was very bad against them so far.
    A .552 ops in 2012 against them,with very little power is not enough.
    Imo,he is great trade bait.

    I’d like too see adams given a shot at 3b,or 2b.

  59. be reasonable... October 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    Bronx Jeers,

    Did you see this comment: “Cashman said there was no player in the farm system who was banging on the door. Cashman said catcher Gary Sanchez, outfielder Mason Williams, third baseman Tyler Austin and outfielder Slade Heathcott were still very young and the only discussion of them on the major league level is when other teams ask about them in trades.”

    Ouch.

  60. Tyler October 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    Anybody see the 30for30 on Ben Wilson tonight?

  61. Benny Blanco October 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    cashman also stated that they would have to lose 100 games in order to get guys like harper.

    Cano was 22 when the yankees promoted him and Melky was 21 If remember correctly.

  62. Benny Blanco October 23rd, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Tyler,

    I missed it. All my friends on FB were raving about it. Heard it was a touching story.

  63. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 24th, 2012 at 12:00 am

    bruceb – It does matter because those points add up! Thanks for letting me know. I always encourage people to check up on me when it comes to these charts and my getting everyone’s numbers right! I will change that right now. :)

    ************

    “I am relieved we can dispense with any justice system and just ask you who is guilty. You know the evidence even better than the jurors who heard it. We should all be comforted.”

    I don’t know how you can be so disengenuous, either that or pretend that juries always get it right. I’m not on the side of the justice system that tries to make any excuse at all so that a defendant can walk.

    You still haven’t responded to whether or not you are helping OJ find the real murderer. Cuz you know, we trust that justice system and everyone knows the jurors in the Nicole Simpson murder trial got it right since they heard the evidence. Isn’t that right austin? Or do you just play that game when it comes to people whose autographs you’d kill for (in a manner of speaking of course), like Clemens. I forgot. He’s from your home state. Of course you’d believe him.

    I don’t play both sides of the street and I have no respect for people who do. Since in your book the juries always get it right since they’re the ones who hear the evidence :roll: I am assuming that you high-fived everyone and gave a pump fist to the jury that tried OJ
    Simpson first time around. Am I correct in that?

    ***********

    For anyone interested, sports reporters who sat through the entire Clemens trial came out and said that he was guilty (they heard all the evidence by the way) and they wouldn’t vote to put him in the hall of fame regardless of how the jury voted. I followed that entire trial – the entire trial – and heard about every bit of evidence put on. I agree with the sports reporters. But then I must confess that despite the stellar jury who heard all of the evidence in the OJ Simpson trial, yeah, I thought he was guilty. How dare I voice that opinion when the jury acquitted him. How unAmerican of me!

    ***********

    J Al – I said nothing about the Orioles shutting the Yankees down. The Orioles played the Yankees tough all season and the season series ended up in a tie. So let’s take the Orioles out of the equation. There were only 4 runs separating the two teams.

    No, what I heard all season long was that the Yankees relied on the long ball and the “fact” that they NEVER hit with RISP was going to doom them in the end. That’s what I heard.

    Pitching backwards is a term used to describe a certain pitching sequence that is the opposite of conventional wisdom. In other words, if most pitchers use the fastball to get ahead of hitters and then throw a curve ball ahead in the count, you would do the opposite. Throw curve balls to get ahead and fastballs when you are ahead. This style of pitch calling can be a useful tool to use when a hitter has seen a pitcher multiple times during a game or a pitcher has outstanding control of his breaking pitch/es.

    “As for Detroit in the regular season… I would have thought, by now, that virtually everyone had come across the comments of virtually everyone else concerned about the offense, and had read in them those repeated admonitions that the postseason, when it comes to scoring runs, is a whole different animal. It’s really a matter of record; go look.”

    You’re just asking me to correct the admonitions of misguided people if you want me to believe that was a blanket statement rather than a statement about the general quality of pitching in the postseason, i.e., “we’ve been playing mediocre teams and that’s why the Yankees won the AL East. ” Thankfully someone (it may have been jacksquat) corrected that notion, pointing out that the Yankees also beat quality teams during the season.

    Which leads back to my point about Detroit. Surely you don’t expect me to believe that the baseball gods wave a magic wand and that Detroit’s pitchers become bigger and better because it’s the post season. It was the same Verlander the Yanks beat twice, the same Fister, the same Sanchez and the same Scherzer, all of whom the Yanks had beaten in the regular season.

    So I’m certainly not of the notion that because it was Detroit, the Yankees were going to forget how to hit and forget how to beat the pitchers they had beaten during the season! I’m still not buying that. So it was something deeper. Runs were hard to come by for both teams. If the ump hadn’t blown the bases-loaded call in the first game or the out-at-second-by-a-mile call in the 7th inning of the 2nd game, maybe the Yankees would have won two of the games, who knows. But one thing is for sure. Detroit managed to keep the Yanks off balance. The Yankees didn’t recognize and adjust to the pitching backwards, so it seems, and their fate was sealed.

    Does it mean they don’t know how to hit? Don’t think so. Does it mean that the offense that managed to beat every one of Detroit’s pitchers could no longer hit them because everyone here predicted that the offense wouldn’t be there? Don’t think so. Did the inability to adjust to and recognize the pitching backwards mentioned in that article do them in? That seems to make the most sense. So all I’m saying is that the “I knew this was going to happen” is a crock. None of you knew THAT was going to happen. Dress it up and twist it around any way you want to so that it appears that someone was onto something, I’m still not buying. Would rookie offense have picked up on the backwards pitching and made the difference? I’m not thinking the answer is a yes, so, so much for “if only we had gotten more offense.”

    **************

    If the Yankees were at a loss to explain what happened, I sure as hell don’t think any expert here has more of a pulse on it.

    The Yankees didn’t hit. The reasons why have been suggested and good scouting on the part of the Tigers and changing around their pitching obviously threw the Yanks for a loop, and that includes the same Robby Cano that both you and I would be loathe to see go anywhere else. They fooled the best. I am guessing that if the Tigers used the same approach they did during the regular season, the same result as that of the regular season might well have taken place. They didn’t, it didn’t, and now hopefully the Yankee brass learns something from that.

    At this point we’ll just agree to disagree if you want to go down the same road you’ve been going down on this one. I’m not trying to beat you over the head with it and you don’t need to beat me over the head with it. There are many opinions on here with which I disagree, and there are many of my opinions with which others disagree. I’m extremely comfortable with that because I’ve never seen this forum as the final arbiter of truth but rather as a place where people give their opinions.

    You have said several times now that you think I’m wrong. So be it. I’m content to have you think I’m wrong and I’d rather just move on.

  64. Tyler October 24th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Benny Blanco October 23rd, 2012 at 11:57 pm
    Tyler,

    I missed it. All my friends on FB were raving about it. Heard it was a touching story.
    ————————————————————-

    Extremely touching and well done. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Ben Wilson’s story but I absolutely recommend it.

  65. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 24th, 2012 at 12:38 am

    bruceb – by the way, it made a lot of difference! You now lead the pack!!!

    :)

    POSTSEASON POINTS

  66. jacksquat October 24th, 2012 at 12:44 am

    be reasonable… October 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
    Bronx Jeers,

    Did you see this comment: “Cashman said there was no player in the farm system who was banging on the door. Cashman said catcher Gary Sanchez, outfielder Mason Williams, third baseman Tyler Austin and outfielder Slade Heathcott were still very young and the only discussion of them on the major league level is when other teams ask about them in trades.”

    Ouch.

    He is right. None of those guys have more than a brief appearance in AA. If someone tears up AA in 2013 they will get some attention.

  67. Jerkface October 24th, 2012 at 12:44 am

    @ChadMoriyama

    So Nippon Ham Fighters are gonna take Shohei Otani #1 in the NPB draft and his reps don’t sound happy.

  68. Jerkface October 24th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    @IntProBaseball

    http://yakyubaka.com/2012/10/2.....r-24-2012/ … #Nippon Ham Fighters will select #Otani with their first pick in #NPB Draft, Try to compete with #MLB on signing him

  69. Jerkface October 24th, 2012 at 12:49 am

    The plot thickens! The Ham Fighters drafted a prospect, Tomoyuki Sugano, of equal talent to Otani (or better) with the first pick last year who did not sign with them. The reason is that he said he will only play for the Giants who are managed by his uncle. They ended up not getting the player, as he did not sign & sat out the year. He has entered the draft again and has said he will only play for the giants, & will study abroad if drafted by another team.

    Ham Fighters about to forfeit another pick, though this one may be better spent because it is possible to publicly pressure/shame Otani into signing. Or drafting him could cause MLB teams to back off.

  70. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 24th, 2012 at 12:49 am

    Not sure if anyone heard this story about Carlton Fisk but I laughed my butt off when I heard it. He was arrested on suspicion of DUI when he was found in his pickup truck in a corn field, sleeping behind the wheel, with an open bottle of vodka in the truck.

    Now I’m not poking fun at a DUI because Yankee players and others in the baseball world have been arrested for the same thing. It’s that he drove into someone’s cornfield and fell asleep there with an open bottle of vodka sitting on the front seat. I’m thinking that the reality of the Sux’s last two seasons finally hit him.

  71. jacksquat October 24th, 2012 at 12:56 am

    Can’t blame them can we? Those $50,000,000 posting fees are like crack.

    Seriously, why can’t they respect his decision and back off?

  72. ron October 24th, 2012 at 12:58 am

    “Marlins fire Ozzie Guillen after just one tumultuous, disappointing season”.

  73. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 1:02 am

    Jacksquat,

    The problem with Cashman is that he has a tin ear. He may be right that none of the prospects are ready but does he need to go on the radio after the Yankees have a pretty crushing/embarrassing conclusion to their season and basically say they are not going to get younger and there are no players ready in the minor leagues? You would think he would be better at reading the fan base and positioning accordingly.

    Unlike many, I don’t hate Cashman but I do think given the resources he has at his disposal he should be producing better results.

  74. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 1:03 am

    Trisha,

    Why do you insist on calling them the “Sux.” It just seems small…

  75. Jerkface October 24th, 2012 at 1:06 am

    Pretty ridiculous article on the Pirates abuse of their prospects with non-baseball related NAVY SEAL style instructional training programs: http://t.co/82Lfb9Gq

    If you ever want to suggest that a team knows what they are doing because they are a big organization or are professionals or whatever, I will simply point to this as evidence to the contrary.

  76. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 1:10 am

    Jerkface…Wow. Simply Wow.

    And this: “Players were told to be dressed in 20 minutes and to meet outside by the batting cage. Waiting there were Kyle Stark, the assistant general manager and architect of the team’s “Hoka Hey” ways, as well as Larry Broadway, the first-year farm director who never before held any instructional position at any level of baseball.”

    I take back everything I said about hoping the Pirates at least make the playoffs…oh to be in Pittsburgh and be a Pirates fan…

  77. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 24th, 2012 at 1:28 am

    “Trisha,

    Why do you insist on calling them the “Sux.” It just seems small…”

    All that’s left is for me to figure out exactly which sock puppet you are pal. My guess is West Coast Sux Fan. He too was in mourning whenever I took a shot at the last-place wonders.

    By the way, NEW PERSON, it’s the first time I’ve ever called them that. Where did you come up with “insist on calling them”. That implies constant reference.

    Very strange.

  78. Cashmoney October 24th, 2012 at 1:47 am

    Bronx Jeers October 23rd, 2012 at 11:31 pm
    Cashman: ” I’m a Russel Martin fan”

    I am a bronx jeers fan.. but the, for the right price i trade him too!

  79. Cashmoney October 24th, 2012 at 1:52 am

    JF, the Ham Fighters… are they fighters who prefer ham, made of ham, fight for the honors of ham or, simply Ham who are fighters in their hierarchical of Hamness.

  80. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 1:58 am

    Trisha,

    So I am a “sock puppet” because I find it unseemly to refer to another team as the “Sux?” That is just plain silly on your behalf.

    So let me be clear. I am a new person on this blog. I registered yesterday after watching/reading the blog for a while. And during the time I was watching the blog I saw you call them the “Sux” repeatedly.

    If you have a concern or problem with me perhaps it would be best for you to ask the moderator to check and verify my account which went to me personal email.

  81. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 1:58 am

    Sorry…went to my personal email…

  82. Nick in SF October 24th, 2012 at 1:59 am

    The real question is, has Valentine been fired from his next job yet?

  83. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 2:07 am

    Nick in SF, if you want a good laugh, check out this Charles Grodin comment on Bobby Valentine. Grodin does these small radio clips on our local CBS station. It is pretty funny because he is a friend of Valentine.

    Scroll down to the 30 second clip from Thursday, October 18:
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/au.....s-grodin/#

  84. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 24th, 2012 at 2:14 am

    Let me be clear. I don’t believe a word out of your mouth.

    And I’ve had sock puppets play the “check with the moderator” before.

    And an alleged Yankee fan taking umbrage at someone trashing the Sux doesn’t even pass the smell test.

    Rivetting that you’ve been “watching/reading” the blog for a while and managed to keep your mouth shut during a very dicey postseason but decided to register yesterday because there’s just so much going on.

    :roll:

    I repeat, let me be clear. I don’t believe a word out of your mouth. And the Magic 8 Ball further predicts that you will do your usual and get yourself bounced sky high.

    See ya now.

  85. UnKnown October 24th, 2012 at 2:21 am

    eboland11 For those interested, meaning mostly me, the WS umpires: Davis (cc), Gorman, Culbreth, Iassogna, O’Nora and……….Joe West. Enjoy.

    ———-

    The way some people obsess over this particular element of baseball, even though it has been around FOREVER, I can’t believe nobody has touched on who the men in blue will be for the W.S.

    Just think, all six of them got together tonight at their hotel in S.F. and decided who they are going to have win the W.S.

    I’m sorry folks but it has already been decided on who will be the Champions so there is no sense in anyone watching. LOL!!

    I mean everyone knows that it’s not possible that the actual players will determine who wins and loses these last few games of the baseball season, right… HAHAHAHA

    Damn umps, (sniffle sniffle). I hope everyone restocked their tissue supply that they used up during the ALCS.

  86. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 2:22 am

    Trisha,

    How unfortunate. If you don’t believe what I say then there is nothing that I can do to change that.

    And, let me explain once again. I was born in Detroit so I am a Tiger fan first and foremost. However, I live in New York and I like the Yankees as well as the Mets. I wish both team well because it is good for New York. I actually don’t like the Red Sox that much but I don’t hate them either.

    I decided to register yesterday for two reasons: 1) Tigers are in the World Series and there many folks here talking about the Series so that interests me. 2) I like the business and strategy of baseball and find it fascinating to see how the Yankees plan to re-tool their team. There’s some good discussion here on that.

  87. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 2:28 am

    For baseball fans, interesting tidbit from Tyler Keepner in the New York Times:

    “The Giants have reached the World Series 19 times, the Tigers 11 times. Yet this is their first date for the championship.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10.....=0&hp

    (Hope we are allowed to post external links)

  88. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 24th, 2012 at 2:29 am

    How arrogant for a Tiger fan to come on a Yankee forum and decide to tell a poster that using a disparaging term for the Yankees most hated rival is “small”.

  89. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 2:31 am

    Arrogant? Hardly. And I also root for the Yankees. To me it is a matter of decorum.

  90. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 2:32 am

    And, yes, it is late here in New York. I have a terrible case of insomnia.

  91. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 24th, 2012 at 2:44 am

    Yeh, you’re who you say you are and the tooth fairy is pitching for the Tigers.

    I don’t believe you so let’s never lose sight of that.

    And I hope you ARE rooting for the Tigers because the stinking cheats who pine-tar pitched their way past the Yankees in 2006 while Leyland sat there contemplating his navel are in line for Giant karma.

    ***************

    I think mick had it right. WCSF has returned.

    **************

    Wonder if Valentine is going to get any managing offers now that he’s been bounced by the Suxers.

    I also wonder if Ozzie is finished. Ozzie is a total jackass. Any team would be nuts to go near him.

  92. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 24th, 2012 at 2:47 am

    I’ll post the update to the prediction chart in the morning. Predictions have to be in by first pitch of the WS.

    I’ll leave the forum to the west coasters. Night from the east coast.

  93. be reasonable... October 24th, 2012 at 2:54 am

    Trisha,

    It is really unfortunate that you are so hostile. Like I said, if you have made up your mind and you don’t believe me then there is nothing left to be said on the matter.

    Yes, I am rooting for the Tigers. Why wouldn’t I? We haven’t won the Series since 1984. And, yes, the Tigers did bounce the Yankees (more than once, in fact). I am definitely concerned because we have had a long layoff and last time that happened we completely fell apart in the Series. But we’re there and I am happy with that. I would have been happy if the Yankees made it, too.

    The Giants are a very good team. I just hope we play well and do the best we can. Sure it would be great if we won but I am happy we made it.

  94. yanks61 October 24th, 2012 at 3:08 am

    Good morning, Lohud (very early morning),

    With the Marlins bouncing Ozzie, does anyone think Pena may be a candidate for the Florida job? It would be a shame to lose him.

    Let’s see who gets up early enough to give us their views.

  95. jacksquat October 24th, 2012 at 3:12 am

    What a waste of blog space. People can’t even have normal conversations with this much cr@p.

    Trisha, most people are probably not interested in you hunting down wcyf or cr-9. Please stop it.

  96. ron October 24th, 2012 at 4:39 am

    I would think as long as pena want’s it,and the marlins wan’t him,it is possible.
    No way of knowing,til they get a new manager.
    Firing him with 2 years,and 7.5 million is just plain dumb.

    One thing ozzie knows how to do is manage through all the craziness.
    I could see firing him with a year left,but the message sen’t is,the marlins have no patience,and what manager will wan’t to manage there under those circumstances?

    As far as the yankees,they could have beaten every team in it.Their offense just died.
    I’d like to see them make some big trades,and rebuild,while signing some free agents.
    Trading cano,and granderson for 4 top prospects,while signing a few free agents,along with a few trades is better than signing cano to a 7 year/161 million dollar contract,through 37 years old,and losing granderson to a far away draft pick.
    Also,if i can’t extend hughes now,i trade him for a bat.

  97. yanks61 October 24th, 2012 at 6:13 am

    Hey, Ron, some folks stay up late or have to get up awfully early!

    Anyway, thanks for your views on the Marlins job and the Yankees’ offseason. I think it could be quite an interesting one.

  98. blake October 24th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    So Cashman wants to get better not younger necessarily…..well I agree with that premise…. The only issue is that in mLB 2012 those two things to hand in hand together more than any time in recent history…

    .its a young man’s game again….and a side benefit to this is that younger players are usually cheaper as well….which they need to offset the old guys on big contracts for Hal’s budget

  99. RadioKev October 24th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    River Ave Blues has a quick thought about the Cardinals and Yankees offense:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....nse-78140/

    “It’s not luck, it’s just the day-to-day randomness of baseball and life in general.”

  100. austinmac October 24th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    The only youth Cashman refers to is our farm players. Is it not possible to trade for them?

  101. blake October 24th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    If Cashman can’t see the lack of bat speed in te Yanks lineup then I just don’t know what to tell him…..

    The Cards went cold in the NLCS…..but they didn’t just get steamrolled by two pitching staffs over 9 games…..their offense won them some games too …..to me that’s a case of a lineup just goin cold against good pitching…..the Yanks was more a case of an old lineup doing what was somewhat predictable against too pitching

  102. joecembrale October 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    austinmac October 24th, 2012 at 8:23 am
    The only youth Cashman refers to is our farm players. Is it not possible to trade for them?

    Unfortunately Cashman drafter all of our farm players, so we would have to trade for them. As a policeman outside of a scranton wilkes-barre yankees game told me, “move along nothing to see here.”

  103. mafra October 24th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    THE REPUBLICAN CURSE?

    We did this story at WCBS 880 during the 2004 election. We asked Mike Mussina about the strange fact that Yanks & republicans don’t mix. Not since the Eisenhower administration in 1958 have the NY Yankees won a World Series with a republican sitting in the White House.

    Yanks won in 1961 & 1962 with JFK in office, then lost in 1963 & 1964. LBJ took over, followed by Nixon, and the drought began. Carter slipped into office and the Yanks rose again winning in 1977 & 1978. Reagan was elected, and the Yanks lost in 1981 and then another drought ensued. This contiued through Papa Bush (41) years. Then, when a democrat returned to Wash D-C after 12 years, the Yanks rolled off 4 WS titles under Clinto. But Gore lost, and the Yanks blew it in 2001 & again in 2003. Along came Obama, and the Yanks grab #27 in 2009.

    I’m not an Obama supporter, but a vote for Romney surely means another 4 years of failures for our beloved Yanks. 54 years since Yanks won a World Series with a Republican in the White House.

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