Notes and links heading into World Series Game 2
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Oct 25, 2012 
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Last night the Giants did what seemed impossible for the Yankees: They scored a bunch of runs of Justin Verlander. Now the Giants have an early one-game lead as the World Series shifts to Game 2 tonight in San Francisco. First pitch at is 8:07 p.m. on FOX.
A few Yankees notes heading into the game.
• Mariano Rivera is still considering retirement. Brian Cashman said just a few minutes ago that he called Rivera on Tuesday and Rivera said he’s still not sure he’ll come back next season. “I wasn’t surprised,” Cashman said. When Rivera tore his ACL in May, he was initially very emphatic about coming back for another season, but now he’s not so sure. I believe Andrew Marchand was the first to report about this earlier today.
• Quick Arizona Fall League note: Dellin Betances hasn’t pitched in a little more than a week. Cashman said he’s dealing with a sore groin, but it’s not considered a significant issue. Betances’ shoulder, Cashman said, is fine.
• Mark Teixeira was named one of the 2012 Fielding Bible Award winners. It was Teixeira’s first Fielding Bible win at first base. The other winners: Yadier Molina, Darwin Barney, Brendan Ryan, Adrian Beltre, Alex Gordon, Mike Trout, Jason Heyward and Mark Buehrle.
• Joel Sherman spoke to someone close Ichiro Suzuki who says Ichiro wants to return to the Yankees next season and money isn’t likely to be a factor. I wonder if contract length will be.
• Mason Williams, who missed much of the second half of the season with a shoulder injury, has been cleared to start working out.
• Over at Baseball American, Ben Badler reports that Shohei Otani being drafted in Japan will not delay his ability to sign with a Major League club afterall.
Associated Press photo of Pablo Sandoval
Is anyone in there? Well,….here we are, another series. This one will go away like the last one before. Hope everyone is swell, just cursory work junk up here and a power amp I do think is broke. Alas, no Rush, no Corrs
Good evening everyone,
Bo knows,
Good posts….We have to keep all the talent we can…I agree on giving Nunez and Adams the shot at short and third…It seems that you agree with me that we don’t know if Jeter is going to be able to play SS next season oreven if he is going to be able to play at all. Not sure about Hunter though, not for two years and an option… I like to bring back ichiro, but just for one more year…
Mr Jmills…Good to have you around
Hi, Luis; we are lucky. ( And good
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AndrewMarchand I think Mo will return. A source said “probably” in my original story.
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SMH *facepalm*
Just nod if you can hear me; Is there anyone home?
Go Giants!
Jeter will be there next yr. His leg would have to be cut off for him not to be the starting SS.
Awesome pregame ceremony honoring our military veterans. Best first pitch EVER.
Odds,
I have learned never to bet against the Captain…But I rather wait on this one…He is not 20 anymore…Will he have enough lateral mobility to play SS?…It took Adams two years to regain form…I hope I am wrong on this one
#WelcomeBackVeterans…
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luis October 25th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Odds,
I have learned never to bet against the Captain…But I rather wait on this one…He is not 20 anymore…Will he have enough lateral mobility to play SS?…It took Adams two years to regain form…I hope I am wrong on this one
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True anything can happen especially when dealing with older players
Guys, read what is written, I said Granderson has the ability to steal bases, not that he did steal a lot of bases. He could certainly still steal 25-30 if that was the game plan (i.e. not big hairy monster ball).
Luis
All those empty seats, all that boring baseball. You have to put butter on the carrots even if they’re good for you. My proposals were reality based from a management point of view as to the leadership of the club. Cano needs some shelter and the team needs some excitement. Nunez and Gardner terrorized teams two years ago, now add Ichiro to the mix and give fans something to enjoy.
The time has past come for some progressive thinking. Between the budget and the kids the Yankees need Hunter as the sweetener for the medicine, a flamboyant player that plays good baseball, a short term bridge to the future. It’s a slight overpay but the hang dog brigade makes for desperate times. Jeter with an ankle injury is too big a risk at age forty and Nunez is in place. He comes with warts, so be it. Big hairy monsters always lose to the good guys, time for some good guys.
For anyone interested, Will Clark, Jerry Coleman and Gaylord Perry visit SF VA Medical Center prior to tonight’s game. Pretty terrific:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Posey
Stupid , desperate send by Tigers…
Great tag by Posey.
Look at these losers.
Scutaro with the relay like Jeter nailing Endy Chavez…
Wow. Great play. Even as a Tiger fan I have to applaud Posey. I am just glad Fielder didn’t fall on him and repeat that terrible leg breaking. Posey is amazing.
People thought that the Tigers were good bc of they we got swept by them. They didnt win that series. We gave it to them.
Sending fielder from first 0 outs is only something you see from the yankees! Tigers looking as bad as tge Yankees.. Well, okay not that bad.
3B coach looked like Rob Thompson on that play.
Let him manage elsewhere in 2013.
Posey is amazing. His demeanor, his coolness after winning the NLCS reminded very much of Derek Jeter.
Obviously, I’d never compare anyone to Jeter, but Poses reminds me of him with his composure.
Now Penny…at least we are not behind already and we did manage to get the Panda out…
mick October 25th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Scutaro with the relay like Jeter nailing Endy Chavez…
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Don’t you mean Timo Perez
big hairy monster ball: a brand of offense created by Yankee GM Brian Cashman where a club’s lineup is primarily built with older LH hitters who hit solo homers with a multitude of Ks and non productive outs mixed between. Some fans have described it as the height of boredom.
7-4-2 DP like Jete’s backup on the A’s and jeremy giambi.
San Fran is so fundamental…
Don’t you mean Timo Perez
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yeah, thanks…when i wrote that it seemed wrong but couldn’t remember
I prefer SF to win but jim leyland is such a good guy its hard to root against him plus the city of detroit could use a celebration. Tough call!
Mick, if you look at an earlier post on Lohud today there is an interesting article showing how San Fran assembled this team in what seemed like two short years. Worth a look.
Penny, at this point, I would settle for the Tigers actually making this competitive…
I mean I was born in Detroit (but I’ve now lived more of my life in NYC than Detroit so I do root for the Yankees) but I have to say the San Fran team, fans, stadium, etc. are very likable…
mick October 25th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Don’t you mean Timo Perez
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yeah, thanks…when i wrote that it seemed wrong but couldn’t remember
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Honest mistake buddy.
Blake, the big hairy exception is Raul Ibanez, who provided plenty of hair-raising excitement late in the year. Otherwise, yes. But most of the monsters were rather tame and boring.
BR….SF is the 47%….we used to be championed by romney
is this hairy monster thing a new phenomena?
Posey is a prime example of how developing an elite position player can just change everything……you get their best years for peanuts and it not only makes your team better and more exciting…..it frees up loads of money that you can use elsewhere
Overall….Cashman just says weird stuff to the media anymore….I mean it’s hard to even follow him sometimes
Blake, I tend to agree with you but the challenge is that finding a Posey is not exactly easy. I think baseball is much harder to predict than just about any other sport.
mick October 25th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
is this hairy monster thing a new phenomena?
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Yes and Cashman will be credited for coming up with it.
The Giants just look better than the Tigers
I keep changing my mind cuz SF is my city but i wanna see tigers get the win. I lean toward tigers now but that nay change.. Either way watching these games are much more enjoyable for me than watching the yankees play these last few years, especially this year..
Owwww bad break.. Tigers cursed?
Penny…on Leyland…I was watching Letterman last night and he said “Jim Leyland looks like a guy who would be smoking a cigarette while filling up your gas tank.” !
Posey is a prime example of how developing an elite position player can just change everything…
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That’s why the dynasty teams were so rare. They had 5 guys from the farm at big positions: closer, C, CF, SS, and P. Smh that’s crazy
Yes and Cashman will be credited for coming up with it.
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will try to keep it in my objective pipe.
I cant believe fister is still pitching.. Yowser!!! ?
“Jim Leyland looks like a guy who would be smoking a cigarette while filling up your gas tank.” !
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i thought he was a smart mgr?
Penny…I understand the dilemma believe me. I would have liked the Yankees to win because it would have been fun to go to World Series games…there would have been plenty of tickets at the new Yankee stadium.
At this point, I am just hoping the Tigers don’t further embarrass themselves…
mick October 25th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Yes and Cashman will be credited for coming up with it.
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will try to keep it in my objective pipe.
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Hahahaha
Where does he come up with this stuff???
be reasonable… says:
October 25, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Blake, I tend to agree with you but the challenge is that finding a Posey is not exactly easy. I think baseball is much harder to predict than just about any other sport.
No it’s not….but it’s getting a bit easier …..scouting is better and broader than ever. Posey was the 5th overall pick in the draft…..sure you’ll always have Mike Trouts and a diamond in the rough here or there but findings those diamonds and maybe more importantly having them slip to later in the draft is getting harder and harder………
Which is why the Yanks are gonna have to cheat internationally most likely if they are going to be able to acquire the very top talent…..most of those guys now are getting discovered an drafted long before the Yankees ever pick
Mick, I kind of like Leyland…I just thought the Letterman joke funny…I am not sure how smart he is…but I like him.
Blake, all good points. This is why the Yankees have a harder job than any other team. They aren’t going to see a 5th overall pick in the draft.
Maybe but hes a super nice guy.
Agree penny…and the players like him. He’s good with people
be reasonable… says:
October 25, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Blake, all good points. This is why the Yankees have a harder job than any other team. They aren’t going to see a 5th overall pick in the draft.
Nope….they don’t get a chance at the sure things like Posey and Longoria and Braun and Harper…..so they have to pick upside guys later and hope they blossom…..you can get good players later….but there is a lot more luck involved and often you have to wait a lot longer for them to develop.
i can see leyland as a smoker but playing with matches pumping gas?
maybe ozzie …
Not trying to be a brat but some of the suggestions for the nyy team next year are so mediocre and pathetic that im very taken back . Hoping its just for discussion sake. That guy duh innings mile long posts are ineffable !
Girardi? I kid.
That guy duh innings mile long posts are ineffable !
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That’s his thing though. He makes the same kind of posts on RAB. Even though they are out there he gives it a lot of thought
NYY_Girl_Penny October 25th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Not trying to be a brat but some of the suggestions for the nyy team next year are so mediocre and pathetic that im very taken back .
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Which ones besides duh innings?
Blake, what i don’t understand is the luxury tax. I had heard that the Yankees could avoid the luxury tax if they invested money in a new stadium–that is, spending on stadium would exempt them somehow or get deducted from the luxury tax. I clearly could have that wrong but if that is the case then they could spend without getting hit with the luxury tax.
Is SF the joy capital of the country?
their fans are like the 69 mets fans.
mick where are you?
But I think so. Only one place in the U.S. where people have more fun from what I have seen and that is New Orleans.
i live here on earth, what about you?
why is SF so joyous?
i could only guess….
Now now…
Far as I know the luxury tax is just related to payroll….I don’t know of any breaks they get on that with MLB….now with Uncle Sam they probably do id guess
its automatic if the runner dives into 1st….he’s out
Don’t pitch to the panda…
Stadium money saves the Yankees from some revenue sharing, not luxury tax. No breaks on luxury tax.
something in the air in frisco…
Hey, I’m selfish. If I spend time watching a team, I want to be entertained for nine innings. Watching an inning of offense then six innings of swings and misses or working walks with no results and maybe a gasp in the seventh, else it’s turn out the lights is not my idea of entertainment. In my opionion it’s time to close the book on the Granderson era, all the talent in the world, had success last year due to Long, reverted, here we are.
you don’t give the Panda any cookies.
see this is fun…
It’s a shame that our team is bereft of any minor league talent.
Jerkface, thanks. I knew it was something like that but couldn’t recall the details. I guess other wise the Yankees would have put a retractable dome on the new stadium.
is long the reason they all swing for the fences?
Bo,
I agree….
i know the long ball is a good thing but it’s getting ridiculous…
Id love to have leyland over girardi. Im sure joe is a good guy in person but his BS comments are one thing but his managing ability is absolutely atrocious and it shows clear as day when the team is not playing well.. I dont think they bring him back next year regardless if he gets them to the WS or not! The yanks may not make the moves they need to do and Girardi is fall guy #1. Especially if ticket sales and attendance declines further.
Yanks should start prepping jorge posada for future manager .. Id be happier with anyone over girardi tho. He took a struggling yankee team and poured gas on the fire with all his BS. Too me it showed inexperience and desperation. I don’t just me his starting lineup i mean everything collectively the last 3 yrs. but the new Steinbrenners dont know baseball and rely on everybody else .. They’ve got no clue if hes a good/bad manager they see 95games thats it.
But Bo and Blake…it is not like the Yankees didn’t win a lot of games. As much as Cashman can be irritating in his talks to the media…he is right…the team was only four games from the World Series.
i remember the yanks won more games than anybody in the 80′s too…
Done October 25th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
It’s a shame that our team is bereft of any minor league talent.
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They have talent but the problem is it’s yrs away. The Yankees get hurt by not having the depth. Waiting for the guys in AA wouldn’t be a problem if you had 3 guys in AAA and 2 already on the big league team.
if girardi and cash play their cards right they will be yankee institutions.
Penny I actually think Girardi is a better manager. If Leyland was the manage of the Yankees you would be pulling your hair out. And I like the guy! I’ll bet 75% of your dislike of Girardi stems from him adding a “y” to everyone’s name…
I’ll probably get killed for saying this but I think Girardi is a good manager. I also think he’s probably a really decent guy.
1/5 of giants roster from venezuela….wow…luis would be proud.
mick, is that really true they Yankees won more games than anyone in the 80s?
delmon young could be a yankee.
“But Bo and Blake…it is not like the Yankees didn’t win a lot of games. As much as Cashman can be irritating in his talks to the media…he is right…the team was only four games from the World Series.”
Yea no question….but you could argue they overachieved this year in the reg season and were somewhat exposed offensively in the playoffs when they faced better pitching…..I just like a more diverse offense…..
The Tigers made no mistakes against the Yankees in a 4 game series. They’ve made countless defensive and offensive mental errors in 1 game + 3 innings. LOL!
My favorite part of this playoffs, and the season for the most part… We had Ichiro and Brett Gardner(only for the playoffs) and we didnt use their speed to create anything and force the defense into mistakes.
There was a small period during the regular season when Ichiro was taking bases left and right.
I don’t blame either one of them, the fact is that Joe Girardi is a fool that doesnt give the green light to them.
Blake, I hear you but I go back to a simple point. I really believe the Yankees are in a business and baseball model transition and that is going to take some time. If you look at the 40 man roster–a roster that won the most games in the AL–how many players would you change out? I am assuming that you surely wouldn’t change out all 40. So the next question is really how many? 5 players? 10 players? What percentage.
I agree with all the stuff on the Yankees have to get a more diverse offense, etc. But it seems more like incremental change that throw the baby out with the bathwater change.
You know what is really sad.. Nick Swisher finished the season with the best OVERALL numbers on the team cept jeter/canos BA.. Other than that Swisher had a better season then Everybody .. Grandy did have more HR but otherwise terrible ! again i mean overall stays.. Nick Swisher lol one of our top 3 players … Am i the only one seeing a problem there????
Hard not to root for Sergio Romo…
The Yankees won a lot of games due to having aging talent, Toronto got hurt and Boston committed sepuku.
Hey, Philly won a lot of games last year, how was their year? The Yankees are that close to what Philly is experiencing. Time to start being proactive, this OS was the wake up call.
Yanks averaged close to 90 wins per in the 80′s.
These interviews in the middle of the broadcasts are awful….
Bo it is a fair point but I think the Yankees have better talent and less problems than Philly. I don’t think anyone would argue with the point the Yankees need to make some changes. The question is how many, how deep, etc.
Sergio Romo just said that the Giants’ motto is “play for the guy next to you.”
Something the 2012 Yankees didnt have. Swisher is all about playing for himself, same with Cano, and most of them.
I am not listening…I was hypnotized but the beard…
the fact is that Joe Girardi is a fool that doesnt give the green light to them.
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It has been said more than once by the Yankees that Gardner has the green light the minute he gets on.
buy the beard…
by the beard…I can’t type. But you are right. This is a long interview. Memo to Fox there is a game going on.
in fact, throwing out the 1981 strike year the 80 yanks had more wins than the 90s yanks.
hard to believe, but you can look it up…
Yanks had the most overall wins in the 80s decade.
I felt the ground shake on Prince’s belly flop. But I’m only a few miles away.
mick very interesting. I had no idea.
Sorry trisha i dont like his “Y” usage true but thats not even on my mind when i say he is a bad manager. He is not even average he is below avg, how anyone thinks otherwise.. Well “argument of ignorance” , thats not an insult, its human nature .. Google it if youre not familiar with it.
AAO, I dont buy it. I thought Gardner was the idiot for years, but when Ichiro gets on and doesnt take a base in obvious situations that call for a steal, it cant be both of them that are idiots. There’s only 1 idiot, Joe.
i would like to see some song and dance or comedy from romo or verlander next time they are interviewed..
Half way through and we accomplished our goal of not embarrassing ourselves…I call that progress.
the non running is a result of the big hairy monsters
the fact is that Joe Girardi is a fool that doesnt give the green light to them
I am all in favor of stealing basis but when your big hitters are coming up to bat you don’t want to take your ducks off the pond all the time.
argumentum ad ignorantiam
Penny, I like to think reasonable people can reasonably disagree…
Sign Ichiro and Hiro ASAP. Call up Godzilla and ask a favor.
Then send all three up to Otani’s door.
“Shohei some men are here to talk to you”
Could you just imagine those three knocking on that kids door to talk to him about joining the Yankees.
And yes I have officially jumped on the Otani bandwagon
Tar…also send Dice-K. He can offer some insight on what it might be like should he consider the Red Sox.
“also send Dice-K. He can offer some insight on what it might be like should he consider the Red Sox.”
Nah…. they might counter with Igawa.
The 00′s blow the 80′s and 90′s away when it comes to wins averaging almost 100 per.
7 straight PS losses took some air out of it.
If this turns into a game of the bullpens I like S.F’s chances.
I would love to see Coke get pounded in this series at some point. That guy greatly bugs me all of a sudden.
Did anyone hear how many times Buck and McCarver said the word “Yankees” in a derogatory manner last night??
At one point in the middle of the game, they did it 5 times in the span of 10 minutes.
Yep, Cashman is ignorant and Girardi is a dumb ass. All those injuries, 95 wins. Damn, they’re bad. You can bring a horse to water.
Coke is a criminal. He’s the classic version of a guy who has an over-inflated view of himself.
Tar October 25th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Sign Ichiro and Hiro ASAP. Call up Godzilla and ask a favor.
Then send all three up to Otani’s door.
“Shohei some men are here to talk to you”
Could you just imagine those three knocking on that kids door to talk to him about joining the Yankees.
And yes I have officially jumped on the Otani bandwagon
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This is exactly what I suggested earlier today. Don’t know if those guys would be game though.
YF,
If you are still around….How are you feeling?
Blake,
Good points
Tar,
I think Dice K could be a bad influence to the kid
I need a free taco…….
“Coke is a criminal. He’s the classic version of a guy who has an over-inflated view of himself.”
I applaud this view.
The Yankees will wait on Otani to a time when they can trade Gary Sanchez for him
blake October 25th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
The Yankees will wait on Otani to a time when they can trade Gary Sanchez for him
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LMAO!!
Cept its not a matter of opinion, Giradi being a bad manager is a fact.,
I love Mo, have enjoyed watching him since he came up, and I don’t know if he is trying to create some leverage with the possible retirement thing, but if he is I am for the Yankees having a reasonable limit. Mo hardly pitched in 2012 and made 15 mil. My top offer would be 10 mil. I think that is fair. If he retires and Soriano opts out, I am fine with Robertson closing. Certainly less talented pitchers have had fine seasons closing. They would need to pick up another reliever though.
Girardi is an awful manager. He thinks he has more of a positive impact on games than he does. The best thing a manager can do is stick their nose out of things, because it’s more likely they negatively affect games than positively affect them.
Yay, the Cashbash and the Girardi Gavotte.
@JonHeymanCBS
Austin Jackson signed up to be represented by Scott Boras, @ScottMCBS reports.
For those of you who were wondering, yes, Bret The Hitman has been banned from LoHud.
Why has Bret been banned?????
Nick in SF October 25th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
For those of you who were wondering, yes, Bret The Hitman has been banned from LoHud.
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Wow.
“Sorry trisha i dont like his “Y” usage true but thats not even on my mind when i say he is a bad manager. He is not even average he is below avg, how anyone thinks otherwise.. Well argument of ignorance” , thats not an insult, its human nature .. Google it if youre not familiar with it.”
????????
It made sense since he hasn’t posted since that day.
Penny, I can’t believe I am defending Girardi but I don’t think it is a fact that he is a bad manager. The guy was manager of the year, won a World Series and has won a fair amount games. Setting that issue aside, who would you name as the next manager of the Yankees? Buck?
I’ll teach him how to get back on here anytime. I have his contact info and I like him a lot.
I understand that he made some uncalled comments, to the point that they were erased…I didn’t read them, but they must have been really offensive…
Just got in.
I have to say this about World Series baseball where the Yanks aren’t playing. I’m sure that others can understand this on its own unique level. There’s a different kind of enjoyment that goes with it, if you’re into watching it at all. I don’t feel like I’m in that dreamstate, nor do I feel that I’m not able to concentrate on the fine points of the game and enjoy what’s going on because I’m always waiting for the other shoe to drop.
The reason is related to comments he made a few nights ago as well as an apparent email campaign against him which had been going on before those remarks.
Nothing Bret did could have been 1% as bad as anything I did. I dont think it’s fair that Bret got banned. He’s always been a good contributor to the blog, and not a bully like others (SJ44, GB7 to name a couple)
An email campaign?
“An email campaign?”
Yes.
blake October 25th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
An email campaign?
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Oy vey…
“An email campaign?”
I agree thats kind of weird. Maybe David Dejesus finally had enough.
Ok sorry I shouldn’t joke.
@mikeaxisa: There something very Andy Pettitte-ish about Madison Bumgarner.
What a joke. Chad caved to an email campaign. Instead of showing some balls and banning GB7 for the hundreds of racial and gender insensitive things he typed, along with his constant bullying, he’ll only ban someone when there’s an email campaign. Great beat writer, but ball-less blog operator.
If you have an opinion on the matter and aren’t also currently banned from LoHud (sorry, Done) then I suggest you contact Chad and make your feelings known.
“Sorry trisha i dont like his “Y” usage true but thats not even on my mind when i say he is a bad manager. He is not even average he is below avg, how anyone thinks otherwise.. Well “argument of ignorance” , thats not an insult, its human nature .. Google it if youre not familiar with it.”
Anyone know WTF this is supposed to mean? Because I don’t have a clue, nor why it was addressed to me.
I agree thats kind of weird. Maybe David Dejesus finally had enough.
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Good ‘un
It seems readily apparent to me that a female or two here has not liked Bret’s stories of “womanizing”, and his comment about “that time of the month” plus his inappropriate joke opened the door for this person/people to get him banned. I think some people are being a little oversensitive.
Probably the same person/people are responsible for the word “s!utter” being banned, even though it only references Hughes’ slider+cutter, and the word “s!ut” is not gender specific.
Tar October 25th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
“An email campaign?”
I agree thats kind of weird. Maybe David Dejesus finally had enough.
Ok sorry I shouldn’t joke.
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Lol, no see this is why it blows Bret got banned.. he was a wealth of material. We’re really only as funny as the other posters on here lol.
Nick
Isn’t posting on the blog making your feelings known?
I can’t stand Fister but dude is tough as a pine knot….gets drilled in the wrist and shuts down the Yanks then gets drilled in the head and does the same thing tonight
Meh couldn’t have happened to a worse sexist!
One thing you have to say about this series, is that the umpires have been really good. Good strike zone, good calls on close plays at first, etc.
An email campaign? I wonder who could’ve possibly been behind that?
Oh wait actually I don’t. That’s pathetic but not surprising at all.
Oh no, how dare Bret be a womanizer. What a mockery. We had to sit here and stomach Erica’s crap about the Muppets day after day for years. That’s insensitive.
Blake…I agree with you. Fister is pretty good. Either that or he has a really hard head.
Unknown, Trisha wouldnt have done something like that. Just in case you think it was her. She’s had a lot worse said to her than ‘time of the month’
“Isn’t posting on the blog making your feelings known?”
I meant known to the person who made the decision, Tar. Unless you think that every comment here is read and digested by a LoHud employee.
Well, that’s how you bunt. Amazing.
Lol, no see this is why it blows Bret got banned.. he was a wealth of material. We’re really only as funny as the other posters on here lol.
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The straight lines were lay downs. The material wrote itself. I vote for put downs not put outs.
“It seems readily apparent to me that a female or two here has not liked Bret’s stories of “womanizing”, and his comment about “that time of the month” plus his inappropriate joke opened the door for this person/people to get him banned. I think some people are being a little oversensitive.”
Are you sure it’s only females? And by the way, I’ve never contacted Chad about Bret. I’ve proudly announced any time I intend to email Chad in hopes of getting someone’s butt tossed. And it has only been when some freak loser has decided to stalk me.
I think I might would have let Bum hit after they scored….but who am I to question Midas touch bochey
Are you referring to me as a freak loser??
I was extremely emotionally unstable then, and much less so now.
One thing you have to say about this series, is that the umpires have been really good. Good strike zone, good calls on close plays at first, etc.
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Shhhh… Don’t you know that the umpires are always terrible and out to ruin the game. LOL
Seriously though that is a great take. The men in blue have been on point.
I’m just a little surprised..
I mean, it may not be the best measure but it does seem harsh (although, full disclosure, I have no idea what the post said).
I personally always enjoyed mocking Bret’s love life…
I hate to say it but NL baseball is better right now…
I think I might would have let Bum hit after they scored….but who am I to question Midas touch bochey
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Agreed. He had enough to go complete. We’ll see how it plays out.
UnKnown October 25th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
An email campaign? I wonder who could’ve possibly been behind that?
Oh wait actually I don’t. That’s pathetic but not surprising at all.
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Seriously. You wonder why the blog has gone from “the best place to talk yankee baseball” to “its our blog and we’ll gang up on you and force you out to make up for the abuse we had in high school”.
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why I come here still I have no idea.
“Unknown, Trisha wouldnt have done something like that. Just in case you think it was her. She’s had a lot worse said to her than ‘time of the month’”
I see the blue-collar moron Unknown is still ingesting bath salts.
Thanks, Done, you are exactly right. The only times I’ve gone to Chad is when some D-bag mulitple has decided to make his life’s work stalking my posts and can’t control his nastiness impulse.
Bo knows October 25th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Lol, no see this is why it blows Bret got banned.. he was a wealth of material. We’re really only as funny as the other posters on here lol.
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The straight lines were lay downs. The material wrote itself. I vote for put downs not put outs.
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We have mocked people off the blog before.. I agree.
Tigers are really fortunate to get out of that mess with only giving up one run.
” Unless you think that every comment here is read and digested by a LoHud employee.”
Nick
I do, but sometimes maybe not in a timely manner. I bet Chad is reading this tonight.
My feelings are that although Bret was immature at times, and posted some real dumb things (probably wasted), He was Lohud’s dumb, immature, stupid sayer of things. So I feel almost a little parental about him. But if the person who his remarks were aimed at feels like being banned is justified, then I concur.
Unknown…hey we’re way ahead of where we were last night. At least this game is competitive.
“Are you referring to me as a freak loser??
I was extremely emotionally unstable then, and much less so now.”
Actually I was referring to the West Coast multiples. I did email Chad about the BCM but my mistake was asking Chad not to ban the nut but to keep her away from me.
I stopped reading her stupidity a long time ago but have seen from references others have made that she’s still out there “doing her thing.”
I think the most important question of the night is who scouts pitching for the Giants? Hope he’s getting his money.
Unknown, have you how fair the strike zones have been last night and tonight??
They were terrible in each game of the ALCS. Whether it was against one team or against both teams, there was no consistency. Pitches that were in opposite batter’s boxes were being called strikes half the time, and balls the other half. Verlander’s strike zone was the size of Roseanne.
I’m not saying tha’ts the reason the Yankees lost, but it’s a shame.
If you want one-sided umpiring at it’s finest, go to Game 6 of the 2009 World Series on pitchfx and see how Joe West attempted to cheat Andy Pettitte all night but gave everything to Pedro.
“I hate to say it but NL baseball is better right now…”
I didn’t think I’d see that day again, but I have to agree with you.
Actually I was referring to the West Coast multiples.
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Right now you’re talking to another multiple..
Done
I think the strike zones have been very good on both nights. But then again I am not one to complain about umpires.
Tar, the person or persons who wrote to Chad certainly didn’t think that posting about it here was sufficient.
But if the person who his remarks were aimed at feels like being banned is justified, then I concur.
It wasn’t his/her/their decision and I don’t know why you’d want people who feel like they’re victims deciding who gets banned. Who knows who else he/she/they would like to see banned?
“Right now you’re talking to another multiple..”
The difference is that Done, in any of his iterations, never pretends to be anyone other than who he is.
It wasn’t his/her/their decision and I don’t know why you’d want people who feel like they’re victims deciding who gets banned. Who knows who else he/she/they would like to see banned?
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True, but its pretty simple: Don’t act like a homophobe, racist, or misogynist and you won’t get banned.
What a loser you are, Shame. An unattractive turd. Yes, Ive seen your facebook a couple years ago.
I see the blue-collar moron Unknown is still ingesting bath salts.
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Really appropriate. Too bad I never mentioned your name in my post. But way to turn it into an unnecessary slam towards me. That’s so Trixie of you. FTR I wasn’t talking about you.
BTW, if someone ever said that crap to you, you would play the TOS card immediately. But the rules don’t apply to you I guess. So that’s fine, you can go ahead and claim that I am some sort of drug head. I just consider the source and keep it moving.
But here is a hint, because you get into it with several people on this blog everyday, don’t worry about what I post because you have your hands full. So Stuff It!!
here we go again with the childish non-baseball soap opera again on this blog.. and is it a coincidence who inflames it by magnitudes ?
Chad is an excellent writer, I very much enjoy his posts.. but it’s just mind boggling to see adults carry on like this day in and day out. I guess I sorta have higher expectations of people until I came to this blog. Maybe I need anti-depression meds (not joking) because you all are depressing and dont give me much faith in people as a whole with this constant attacking and arrogant behavior, but the high school clicking out is beyond words. Whats funny is the ones that think their stuff doesnt stink seem to be the ones we all leave because of while holding our noses.
I really thought this blog would rebound but its not happening, that is obvious.
I am not going to single anyone out and surely there are good people here too, but i am pretty sure those that get mad if someone calls them “football” really are a “football”.
trisha – true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
“Right now you’re talking to another multiple..”
The difference is that Done, in any of his iterations, never pretends to be anyone other than who he is.
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Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii’m not 100% sure that’s true lol.. but I dunno that I care how many personalities he occupies either, so I suppose it’s a wash.
I’m still surprised even without seeing the exact wording of the post that he was banned lol.. I always felt like Bret was just a college bro with too much time on his hands and too little lovin’.
There’s a reason why every time I find the time to post here, you’re on. Got nothing better to do. Even in Tampa, a great party city.
Penny, are you sure it wasn’t my defense of Girardi?
Another good call by the umps. Just saying.
Trisha, you were on my list of 3, but if you say it wasn’t you, I’ll take your word for it.
One on my list is male, btw. One if who one of the comments was directed towards, and who’s handle lends itself to someone who may be a bit overly defensive (yankeefeminista), and the other is Jerkface, who seems to have taken it upon himself to be some kind of white knight for the ladies (who in my experience don’t need the help and knights were probably very sexist anyway).
“I’m still surprised even without seeing the exact wording of the post that he was banned lol.. I always felt like Bret was just a college bro with too much time on his hands and too little lovin’.”
I saw reference to a post and someone saying it had been removed and it was good that it was, but I never saw the actual post.
I take that stuff back. I shouldnt have gotten angry like that. I apologize.
I only have one personality, and it’s easily recognizable. When you see a name wishing death on Pedro Ciriaco or for someone like Verlander to take a line drive right to the skull, it’s me. I can’t hide who I am. And I’m proud of who I am, and how much I care about the Yankees and New York.
I don’t want to judge…I liked some of Bret’s ideas…He always was thinking outside the box…I don’t know what the comments were all about…Still, If they were offensive, he should have apologized… I guess is a little too late for that.
Good night Lohud
Done October 25th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
What a loser you are, Shame.
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Says the guy that stalks out a blog, smh..
Anyway, I dunno if anyone noticed but I’m totally getting a free taco!
“It wasn’t his/her/their decision and I don’t know why you’d want people who feel like they’re victims deciding who gets banned. Who knows who else he/she/they would like to see banned?”
“But if the person who his remarks were aimed at feels like being banned is justified, then I concur.”
I realize it wasn’t the offended person’s decision and never said they should be able to say who is banned and who isn’t. That is only Chad’s and Lohud’s decision.. Again, stop putting words in my mouth. If they felt like what he posted was so offensive that he should be banned then I agree with them. And CHAD was right that he should be banned. Maybe the person doesn’t agree with the decision. I personally would like to see him back.
No offense, but Jerkface is one of those guys that, while extremely intelligent and arrogant about his intelligence, has great difficulties with the ladies in real life, so he tries to be a white knight for laides on the internet.
I don’t know anything about the incident in question but given that the poster has more than a little support here perhaps a suspension would have been sufficient. A ban could follow, if necessary.
Done
You need to take your meds or something because you are stepping over the line.
is Jerkface
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Nope.
Hey, baseball blog. Posey at bat. Helloooo.
Bo…some of us welcome the distraction.
I don’t think JF would have anything to do with banning Bret or petitioning it.. Could be wrong of course.
trisha – Same here.. so obv we’re not in a great position to know what was warranted. Bret’s always been a bit misogynistic but I never found it to be anything to get worked up over. I always figured he was just coming off a keg-stand whenever he came on lol..
One of the people I absolutely despise is Dotel.
The Yankees signed this bum for 2 years, when the Yankees knew he’d be out for the 1st year of the contract. He came back midway through his 2nd year, and said he owed the Yankees for signing him to that contract when he was injured, and then immediately departed in free agency.
A disgusting human being, there’s nobody more deserving of a blow to the skull than Dotel.
We need knights on the blog??
No offense fellas, but I think I’d have better luck taking care of myself
(Except Doc.. I could maybe use Doc.)
I’m surprised that Bochy sent Pagan to steal because he could’ve figured that Leyland was going to walk Panda.
As it turns out Dotel can’t get it across either so now he walked them full and it all works out for the Black and Orange as they are set up nicely
Pence is a real scrapper…
Not to put a slant on it but my ex got aggressive periodically.
I AM TELLING CHAD RIGHT NOW !
I also believe Cindy Brady is a constant tattle tale. That’s another story for another time tho.
“Trisha, you were on my list of 3, but if you say it wasn’t you, I’ll take your word for it.”
jacksquat, I’ve never contacted Chad without making it clear on the forum that I’m going to do so.
LOL @ TELLING CHAD
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and “be reasonable” no, I enjoyed our conversations the last couple nights. thanks !
These Giants just do what they have to do to win…
I countered with a meek “Yes Maam”. Worked every time.
I think a suspension is more in order than a total banning.
the BS is thick in here tonight..
“it doesnt matter if I know I am FOS as long as I’ve got you fooled” .. good one there, your a track star !
Here’s an idea, change your alias now tonight comeback brand new.. you won’t tho cause you actually think people care who you are on the internet .. which in itself is baffling. Where is Sigmund when you need him?
Jack…even though I don’t know the details my thoughts exactly. Suspend someone for a month or three months or something like that. Give them one strike. But then again something could have been said that was so inappropriate.
jacksquat says:
October 25, 2012 at 11:00 pm
I think a suspension is more in order than a total banning.
But is 50 games a real deterrent?
Done – Here is Coke, Let’s see him get rocked hopefully.
oh I said I was leaving, it upsets people when I stay here after that. LOL.
how do you spell meow ? Is it really miaow ? hmpf I never knew. :p
White knighting would be the defense of specific posters with the intention of somehow currying favor, but in general I am talking about broad ideas when the topic comes up on the blog, and specifically related to ladies not sure what that would be actually (Wrestling being sexist?) I’ve mostly talked about racism! I guess that makes me a Dark Knight.
I hope he gets rocked… by a line drive that knocks him out cold, or a broken bat that impales him!
Laird is taking a beating tonight…
I hope he does well, actually. The guy was a below average reliever and has carved out a nice role for himself. Kind of unexpected.
But is 50 games a real deterrent?
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Next, he’ll be proposing Dejesus trades and bacon alfalfa bits from the inside.
Well hopefully Romo Don’t Call me Tony can hold the 2 run lead.
Let me ask the racism king here if something is racist.
I was talking to one of my best friends the other day… he’s Mexican… and I said Mark Sanchez (the Jets QB, a Mexican-American) should be slinging tacos at a Taco Bell for a living rather than be an NFL QB. Is that racist?? He knows I’m not racist, so is it wrong to associate Tacos with a Mexican, considering tacos are a Mexican food?
Unknown…I call him fear the beard, jr.
Done, that assumes that what they serve at Taco Bell are actually “tacos.”
JF, “broad ideas”? Watch it there.
I’ve mostly talked about racism!
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Yeah and we don’t ban anyone for that on here lmao!!
*Sigh*.. As sad as I am, I suppose it’s somewhat nice to know that even though he’s gone, somewhere out there Bret is making women terribly uncomfortable.
I like that, “fear the beard, jr.”
I never would have thought the Giants would be up 2-0.
Shame, I agree. I thought for sure it would be 1-1.
C R 9 you’re racist and crazy as hell. You should keep getting banned for perpetuity! Enjoy the assessment.
They won a blow out yesterday, a tight game today… they’re not losing this series. Can’t believe the Giants…..
I’m not racist. I dont care about the color anyone’s skin. The only group of people I’m bigoted against are Bostonians.
I know…but hey if you are the Tigers at least things are trending in your favor…!
Shame – I hope you didn’t just jinx it.
It would be wise for Beard JR. to get Infante here and not have to deal with the Miggy and Prince yet tonight.
If we all got banned for stupid comments their would be no one here. Let Bret apologize and move on.
WOW-EEE!!!!!
Even if you root for the other team, hard not to be happy for fear the beard, jr.
austinmac October 25th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
If we all got banned for stupid comments their would be no one here. Let Bret apologize and move on.
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It looked like he got the boot pretty quick after.. I don’t even know if he had a chance to, though maybe others have a better idea of what when down.
Yay Giants. Hopefully 2 more games and we can get on with the offseason.
And now Cain gets the ball in Game 3. That’s nice.
No you’re definitely racist, as evidenced by many of your comments especially those regarding Japanese players and of course your example is textbook.
Giants were down 0-2 and 1-3 in their past two series, so they’re not going to be taking anything for granted. But wow.
The Giants are the new Yankees and Bochy is the new Torre…
Whatever, man. Japanese people are known for their honor and integrity. I don’t like Dice-K or Kurt Suzuki because they have neither honor nor integrity, and are a dishonor to Japanese people. How is that racist? I have a great respect for how Asians generally comport themselves. Again, I believe in equality for all, and I’ve never cared one bit about the color of someone’s skin.
I picked the Giants to win in 5. It was probably my heart leading my head. But that prediction isn’t looking so bad at the moment!
Didn’t see most of the game but just saw a replay where Fielder was thrown out at the plate.
He was really trucking for a biggun!
Romo didn’t throw a pitch over 88. Gameday classified all his pitches as sliders or sinkers.
Romo is a hoot…
be reasonable,
Are you even upset that your “team” lost tonight?
Triple…signing off in a few. Upset? No, not really. We played well. Fister pitched well. What are you going to do? San Fran looks like they just are on a roll and they are a really good team to boot. I am happy the Tigers are in the Series (even though if the Yankees were there it would be good, too.).
Just hope we can win the next game and make it a Series…
Why is there a Tigers “fan” on here? Your team is a bunch of losers. Verlander is a bum. All you need to know is how that scum performs against the Red Sox. He gets torched every time. Your team has done nothing to defeat the Yankees in any playoff series since 2006. The Yankees (and umpires) have gifted them each series. The only guy on your team worth anything is Fielder. Cabrera is a fat drunk.
“No, not really. We played well.”
You’re no Tiger fan. You could care less if they won or loss.
Tar,
Yeah, I am a Tiger fan and I have the Jack Morris jersey to prove it. I want the Tigers to win and I hope they do but as long as they play well I will be happy. No offense but you are not in a position to tell me what kind of fan that I am.
It really isn’t that hard to figure out. I was born in Detroit and rooted for the Tigers as a kid. Now I live in NYC and I’ve lived in NYC far longer than I lived in Detroit. So I root for the Yankees but the Tigers were the team of my childhood. I don’t get hung up being a hater. Honestly, it really isn’t that unusual…lots of people who have transplanted to NYC root for the Yankees but still have a place in their heart for the team they grew up with. I run into them all the time.
“I want the Tigers to win and I hope they do but as long as they play well I will be happy.”
Sorry but this is BS. I don’t know you and of course you really could be a Tiger fan and Zen master, but I’m calling it like I see it, and that is pure BS.
But you do seem like a reasonable person anyway. Have a good night.
Good night Yankee fans…
and fake Tiger fans.
Tar, funny. But ask yourself this. Why would anyone actually pretend to be a Tiger fan? And it really isn’t BS.
If Mo retires and Sori opts out, that’s $35.5M of bullpen salary off the books: the $15M Mo made in 2012, $12.5M of the $14M Sori foregoes for 2013 ($1.5M buyout), and the $8M Garcia and Feliciano made combined in 2012 ($4M each.)
That’s plenty of money to give one-year contracts to two of the below free agent relievers for them to join new Yankees closer Robertson, Aardsma (the Yanks just pick up his 2013 club option), Logan, a re-signed Rapada, and either Chamberlain or Eppley. Or the Yanks could go with Chamberlain and Eppley and just sign one of the below relievers for a year, go with a homegrown pitcher, or acquire a reliever via trade.
Call me crazy but I’d take a flier on Jose Valverde. He has plenty of closing experience – 277 career saves including 49 for the 2011 ALCS-reaching Tigers and 35 for the 2012 AL Champion (possible but less likely 2012 World Series Champion) Tigers. His stock is so low – he was replaced as the closer by none other than Phil Coke – I bet the Yanks could get him for a year and say $4.5M base (half his 2012 salary) with bonuses based on games and innings pitched. No way he’s getting more than a year from anyone with his recent implosions and I doubt he’d receive an offer higher than $4.5M. I’d even go as high as $6M for him which would still be $9M less than the cost of 2012 Rivera, $5M less than the cost of 2012 Soriano, and $8M less than what Soriano would cost the Yanks in 2013 if (Soriano) doesn’t opt out. I think Valverde would be the total low-risk high-reward signing. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery. I think he’d cut out the histironics on the mound if he was a Yankee.
Jeremy Accardo, OAK
Mike Adams, TEX
Jeremy Affeldt, SF
Luis Ayala, BAL
Miguel Batista, ATL
Matt Belisle, COL
Jonathan Broxton, CIN
Taylor Buchholz, NYM
Tim Byrdak, NYM
Shawn Camp, CHC
D.J. Carrasco, ATL
Randy Choate, LAD
Francisco Cordero, HOU
Juan Cruz, PIT
Octavio Dotel, DET
Chad Durbin, ATL
Kyle Farnsworth, TB
Jason Frasor, TOR
Mike Gonzalez, WAS
Sean Green, TEX
Jason Grilli, PIT
LaTroy Hawkins, LAA
Clay Hensley, SF
Livan Hernandez, MIL
J.P. Howell, TB
Hong-Chih Kuo, CHC
Casey Janssen, TOR
Bobby Jenks, BOS
Brandon League, LAD
Brad Lidge, WAS
Mark Lowe, TEX
Brandon Lyon, TOR
Ryan Madson, CIN
Dustin McGowan, TOR
Guillermo Mota, SF
Peter Moylan, ATL
Pat Neshek, OAK
Will Ohman, CIN
Juan Oviedo, MIA
Vicente Padilla, BOS
Brad Penny, SF
Joel Peralta, TB
Chad Qualls, PIT
Ramon Ramirez, NYM
Jon Rauch, NYM
Francisco Rodriguez, MIL
Fernando Rodney, TB
J.C. Romero, BAL
Takashi Saito, ARI
Hisanori Takahashi, PIT
Robinson Tejeda, CLE
Jose Valverde, DET
Jamey Wright, LAD
Unnecessary padding of an already verbose post with a needless list.
Jerkface October 26th, 2012 at 12:37 am
Unnecessary padding of an already verbose post with a needless list.
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Fu ck off. ‘Don’t like my posts? Don’t read ‘em a sshole.
Needless list? That’s who’s available on the free agent market who don’t have options.
The Yanks aren’t getting Joakim Soria.
Not everyone who posts on here knows there is such a list on COT’s Baseball Contracts like you, nerd.
Btw knowitall, who should the Yanks sign for the bullpen if Mo retires and Sori signs elsewhere assuming D-Rob becomes the closer? I wanna see it. I gave my case for Valverde as a seventh inning, maybe even eighth inning man or 2013 version of 2012 Soriano (who he destroyed in 2012), how ’bout you give yours?
The post was alright until Valverde was mentioned. No Yankee fan in his right mind would want that clown on the team, I don’t care what the price is.
BTW Barry Zito isn’t the pitcher he was with Oakland but I’ll take him over Phil Hughes in a postseason game any day of the week.
2013 Yankees ALDS rotation (as I firmly believe the Yanks will reach the postseason again):
Sabathia / Peavy (righty between lefties) / Pettitte / Zito / Sabathia (Zito and Petttitte could switch places on how they do in the regular season)
who should the Yanks sign for the bullpen if Mo retires and Sori signs elsewhere assuming D-Rob becomes the closer?
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Kyuji Fujikawa, who has been the most dominant reliever in the NPB for the past 8 years and is a free agent, no posting fee. Throws 95 with a knock out split finger.
http://www.baseball-reference......jika001kyu
jacksquat October 26th, 2012 at 12:48 am
The post was alright until Valverde was mentioned. No Yankee fan in his right mind would want that clown on the team, I don’t care what the price is.
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I got news for you:
One bad postseason outing does not determine the worth or quality of a player any more than one good postseason outing does.
So what Valverde blew the save for the Tigers in Game 1 of the 2012 ALDS? His team prevailed and he closed Game 5 of the 2011 ALDS at Yankee Stadium with a one-run lead.
He was the 49-save closer for the ALCS-reaching 2011 Tigers and the 35-save closer for the AL Champion 2012 Tigers who could still win the 2012 World Series although I think it’s unlikely. No one can take that away from him.
$4.5-6M is chickenfeed for a 277 career saves closer.
So keep judging a guy on one bad game or what he’s done lately. I’ll see the forest for the trees.
I didn’t judge the guy on one game. Mariano has blown big games too. I simply don’t like him.
Jerkface October 26th, 2012 at 12:51 am
who should the Yanks sign for the bullpen if Mo retires and Sori signs elsewhere assuming D-Rob becomes the closer?
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Kyuji Fujikawa, who has been the most dominant reliever in the NPB for the past 8 years and is a free agent, no posting fee. Throws 95 with a knock out split finger.
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Yeah, let’s sign a guy with ZERO MLB EXPERIENCE for the mininum three years he will want to be a closer (since he’s a “guy who throws 95 with a knock out split finger”) when we have D-Rob who made only $1.6M in 2012 and would be a bargain even if he made four times that in 2013 to close with a guy who saved 69 games 2010-11 for peanuts in Aardsma as on paper closer insurance (as I believe the Yanks will pick up his 2013 club option and how could they not when they paid him half a mil to rehab and pitch exactly ONE inning for the 2012 Yanks?)
‘Cool Fuijikawa costs no posting fee, but he will cost the minimum three years at $10M a year (eight figures) he will seek and get from someone who’ll envision him as the closer version of Darvish – too much to give an AAAA player (which most Japanese players are.) He’s not signing on the cheap moreover to set up D-Rob or be the 7th inning man. I mean I’d love if he did.
Two words: Kei Igawa. No more multi-year contracts to pitchers with zero MLB experience, especially ones from Japan.
Japanese pitchers who amounted to something in MLB besides Kuroda and Nomo (too early to include Darvish – let’s see what he does with a full book on him in 2013):
NO ONE. The Seattle closer guy? Maybe. He was ok. Okajima had his moments, maybe.
Valverde could be a one-year steal. If Cashman could get past Valverde’s one ef up (Game 1 of the 2012 ALCS), I think he’d be wise to take a flier on Valverde who isn’t a bag of balls no matter what some kneejerk ingrate “What have you done for us lately?” Tigers fans think of him.
I envision Valverde as the seventh inning man at worst, the new closer at best if Mo retires and Sori signs elsewhere (and D-Rob can’t hack it as the closer in the case where Valverde takes the job.)
So much wrong. So little time. He isn’t getting 10 million a year. he makes 4 million a year in Japan right now, he wants to come over to the majors. He will make 4 million or less AAV. He is very good and worth it as well. And history is kind to japanese relievers. They excel.
Takashi Saito
Akinori Otsuka
Koji Uehara
Ken Takahashi
Hideki Okajima
Kazuhiro Sasaki
Shigetoshi Hasegawa
Shingo Takatsu
Masanori Murakami
Junichi Tazawa
Valverde is a clown on the decline. Declining K rates for the past 4 years. Had his worst season at closer since 2006. Has been awful in the postseason his entire career. Lacks command, is a giant clown.
Fujiwara is a professional badass that has been owning at closing for the past decade, he will have an advantage on MLB hitters because they will be unfamiliar with him, and stuff like he got plays anywhere.
Much, much better option than Valverde.
Fujikawa, not Fujiwara
jacksquat October 26th, 2012 at 12:48 am
The post was alright until Valverde was mentioned. No Yankee fan in his right mind would want that clown on the team, I don’t care what the price is.
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So you wouldn’t take Valverde if the Yanks offered him a one-year $2M deal and he accepted? You’re nuts. That’s half of what the Yanks paid Pedro Feliciano this season, a quarter of what they paid Feliciano for 2011-12, for Felicano to throw not a single in-game pitch for the 2011-12 New York Yankees.
Also anyone who doesn’t want Valverde for JUST ONE YEAR WHICH IS ALL HE’LL GET is saying he’s worse than Chamberlain and Eppley (since no one has objected to those two being in the 2013 Yankees bullpen yet.) Please.
You say he’s a clown. And Joba isn’t one for his fist-pumping like he’s closed 277 games like Valverde has? Valverde is an a ss on the mound, yes, I agree wholeheartedly, but I think he’d cut it out as a Yankee.
jacksquat October 26th, 2012 at 1:03 am
I didn’t judge the guy on one game. Mariano has blown big games too. I simply don’t like him.
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I’M SORRY “I SIMPLY DON’T LIKE HIM” ISN’T A GOOD ENOUGH REASON OR REBUTTAL. I COULD CARE LESS THAT YOU DON’T LIKE HIM. WHY DON’T YOU LIKE HIM?
Jerkface October 26th, 2012 at 1:20 am
So much wrong. So little time. He isn’t getting 10 million a year. he makes 4 million a year in Japan right now, he wants to come over to the majors. He will make 4 million or less AAV. He is very good and worth it as well. And history is kind to japanese relievers. They excel.
Takashi Saito
Akinori Otsuka
Koji Uehara
Ken Takahashi
Hideki Okajima
Kazuhiro Sasaki
Shigetoshi Hasegawa
Shingo Takatsu
Masanori Murakami
Junichi Tazawa
Valverde is a clown on the decline. Declining K rates for the past 4 years. Had his worst season at closer since 2006. Has been awful in the postseason his entire career. Lacks command, is a giant clown.
Fujiwara is a professional badass that has been owning at closing for the past decade, he will have an advantage on MLB hitters because they will be unfamiliar with him, and stuff like he got plays anywhere.
Much, much better option than Valverde.
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No he’s not “much, much better option than Valverde” because he has ZERO MLB EXPERIENCE. All you’re going by is your hypothetical vision of Fujikawa, what you forsee him as. Hmmmmm…and I saw Kei Igawa as a #4 starter for the Yanks. ‘Didn’t happen – not even close – and the Yanks blew $6M more than they paid him to post for him, $46M total, over 11X the max you think this hypothetical steal would cost the Yanks.
Valverde has a track record which cannot be dismissed by one bad game or his quirky personality. Cut the crap: had he not blown a 4-0 lead in Game 1 of the 2012 ALCS he’d have been the Tigers’ closer as I type. His benching is some kind of personal thing between him and Leyland/Dombroski/Tigers ownership. There must be something more to his benching than just his performance which may or may never come out after this season is over.
$4.5M for Valverde vs. $4M for who? I’ll take the guy with 84 saves including 49 in 2011 and 277 career saves, thanks.
Rob Dibble was a clown, still is. 1.74 ERA in 68 games for the 1990 World Champion Cincinatti Reds. So you lose on the “clown” argument, besides that Valverde has made it further in the 2011 and 2012 postseasons than any 2011 or 2012 Yankee every bit as much as Verlander who is a bigger choker than Valverde has ever been with his crapout Wednesday night. His crapout will all but erase Valverde’s cuz at the end of the day, the Tigers will be one more season away from being titleless for THREE DECADES when they should’ve won their third World Series in 28 years.
I’m not envisioning Valverde as a closer, I’m envisioning him as a seventh inning man at worst.
Fujiwara is a badass IN JAPAN. That doesn’t necessarily translate into being a badass in MLB. You can tell me all about what he’s done in Japan, and I’m telling you it historically means jack across the board until he shows it in MLB.
Valverde is total low-risk high-reward.
Correction: Two seasons away from being three decades without a World Series title.
Valverde made 9 mil this year, he won’t be 4.5 mil next year.
I don’t like Valverde either. That’s a Yankee fan consensus. No to Valverde.
Actually, I was texting “I hope they bring in Valverde” to my brother earlier in the evening, so let me say: yes to Valverde for now.
JF, do you have a link to official luxury tax rules?
I want Mo to come back but I feel pretty confident that if he doesn’t feel like he can still be the best then he won’t……
I don’t think he wants to end his career being carried off like that ……but perhaps maybe even more I don’t think he would want to come back anything short of being the best like he still was when he went down.
jack,
http://bizofbaseball.com/index.....;Itemid=48
here is the actual CBA if you want to wade through it……
Blake-
Good morning. I was just getting ready to post if anyone is awake.
I don’t see why the ACL repair should hamper his ability to throw the cutter. I hope he comes back. He should be cleared by now to resume full athletic training and would imagine he should know if he still has it-physically.
I have found a very good article on what you would need to consider if you did trade Alex,, titled, “What to do with Sir Alex.”
Please read it and give some feedback.
http://nomaas.org/2012/10/what.....-sir-alex/
Trader,
I don’t either really….but at his age after taking a year off it won’t be easy to regain his full form……not that he can’t do it…..I’m just saying that I think Mo will start to crank it up and will only come back if he feels like he can still be Mo……..
Even if Rivera calls Cashman tomorrow and says-”You know, I don’t feel I can give you 100%, so I wanted to give you enough time to find a replacement.” I still don’t want the Yankees to extend Soriano.
I don’t want them to extend Soriano if Mariano comes back no……but I’d certainly be hoping he either doesn’t opt out….or that he comes back around and takes the qualifying offer after he does opt out.
If Mo retires and Soriano leaves then I just make Robertson the closer…..and then hope Joba and the rest can hold down the set up work and hopefully Montgomery can come on……you can usually add bullpen help during the season if you need to…..they could also look at the Japanese guy that JF has talked about.
“Considering King Felix broke Arod’s wrist in July, it’s reasonable to assume that given an offseason to recover some strength in that wrist, Arod will be back into the “above-average” category once again next season.”
To my knowledge, Alex did not break any bones that are found in the wrist-the 8 carpal bones and the radius and ulna. He broke the 5th metacarpal bone, just above the pinky, in his hand.
I don’t think one can use that fracture as an exuse why he performed so poorly in the postseason.
Your anatomy lesson for the day:
http://healthpages.org/anatomy.....and-wrist/
anybody else feel like the NL style is more fun to watch right now…..it just feels more alive to me while the AL games sorta feel slow and clunky.
The NL has always had a different style that appealed to certain fans…..but now that offense is down and the AL teams aren’t as dynamic in that regard it just seems like bad baseball to me……
Blake-
What did you think of the article?
Blake-
I was hoping that former NL manager, Joe Girardi, would bring some of the NL style of play to the Yankees. Joe Torre did it in 1996 but then digressed from it soon after.
Eeesh.. long night last night here on Lohud, huh?
Trader,
What that doesn’t factor in though is how it affected his timing and his ability to trust the wrist again……just because something is fully healed and not painful doesn’t mean that a player fully trusts it.
Alex has always been a timing hitter……and to me he just looked like he never got a connection back between his upper and lower body…..as I’ve talked about before I think some of it has to do with how spread out he is at the plate and the reducing of his leg kick with has always been his timing mechanism……
I think Alex needs to get away from baseball for a bit and away from K Long and just re-set to default this winter and start over…..get healthy and get in the cage and just hit for an hour in whatever stance and with whatever swing feels most comfortable…..forget mechanics…..and just hit. Alex looked like a robot at the plate to me in the playoffs…..
I think LoHud needs inspirational quotes to carry it through the off season..
“There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work and learning from failure.” – Colin L. Powell
Trader,
I like AL ball better when AL teams play AL ball….meaning when they can actually hit……when AL teams can’t hit its pretty boring……like I said it just seems slow and clunky……
blake – Agreed. Alex was starting to look really solid right before he had that injury… of course, I could be making that up, but I really thought he was making much better contact.
I wish we had more of a cushion down the stretch, I think playing playoff baseball for a month was just too much for this club.
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Alex looked like a robot to me too.
I’m going to post that article again on the next page for Shame and any others to chime in on what Alex is worth if the Yankees trade him.
:O >:O