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Are the Royals a potential trade partner?

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 27, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Buster Olney’s blog is clearly a must-read, and today’s entry comes with this paragraph (immediately before the pay wall, for those of you who won’t cough up the cash).

“This is why nobody should be surprised if the Royals deal one of the core hitters from their every-day lineup — left fielder Alex Gordon, designated hitter Billy Butler, third baseman Mike Moustakas or first baseman Eric Hosmer.”

The beginning of the sentence — “This is why” — is a reference to the Royals need for pitching. Kansas City has a loaded farm system and a bunch of good young hitters at the big league level, but they’re still short on arms. The Yankees — if they can fill in some glaring holes that currently exist in their rotation – have Ivan Nova, Phil Hughes and David Phelps, who could be enough at least begin a conversation about acquiring Gordon or Moustakas (Gordon especially, Hosmer and Butler don’t fit quite as well).

That said, neither Gordon nor Moustakas has a bad contract, so those are going to be pretty desirable pieces on the trade market, and the Royals are already said to be heavily scouting Mariners pitching prospect James Paxton.

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38 Responses to “Are the Royals a potential trade partner?”

  1. CompassRosy October 27th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Ironically, the M’s hitters are out-performing the M’s pitchers in the early going in the AFL.

  2. blake October 27th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Nova for Gordon would be awesome

  3. blake October 27th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    I don’t think they’ll trade Moose cheaply as they don’t have the depth at 3B that they do in the outfield…..they could trade Gordon and then plug a top 5 overall prospect right in there in Wil Myers

  4. jmills October 27th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Hi guys, out here in my yard thinking about my fabric Yankees cap some bird took a crap on circa ’77 or, ’78 ( probably some Jay :) .) Then there was the time I went sliding for a ball and my glove got immersed in local dog doo doo.

    Good times

  5. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    It’d probably take more than just Nova, but I agree.. Gordon would be great to have. It seems like he’d cost you less than Upton, is that the case?

  6. jmills October 27th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    I’m not quite sure why Toronto let San Fran’s 2nd baseperson get away.

  7. yankeefeminista October 27th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    Rosy, the AFL is a hitter’s league. Who of your youngun pitchers would you least want to lose? Taijuan? I’ll believe Yanks actually trade for young hitting when I see it…

  8. Benny Blanco October 27th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Yankees will trade for Gordon and he will hit 240 with the Yankees. Thats’s how it always works out. Lol

  9. jmills October 27th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    The, Jays,….have to be better next year, or else, …..I’m dedicating myself to my Formula 1 career.

  10. blake October 27th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    October 27, 2012 at 6:04 pm
    It’d probably take more than just Nova, but I agree.. Gordon would be great to have. It seems like he’d cost you less than Upton, is that the case?

    Nova + Cervy? ;). I would think he would cost less than Upton but I dunno…..Gordon was a better player last year an is on an equally affordable contract….. He is older though and doesn’t have the same upside J Ups does

  11. mick October 27th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Free Bret!

  12. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    If you could get Gordon with Nova being the centerpiece instead of Phelps or Hughes.. maybe Nova, one of the AAA pitchers, Nunez and maybe another mid-level prospect, that’d be awesome. You could still look into a deal for a 3B…

  13. mick October 27th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    gordon is owed 35m over the 2014-16 period.
    who thinks hal would spend that ?

  14. jmills October 27th, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    I want George Brett on my team too, all that pine tar and stuff. Sign me up.

  15. Jerkface October 27th, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    For AAV purposes Gordon will count as 10 million per year. He would be an ideal player to acquire, being in his prime and likely to be controlled to age 31. 32 if he exercises his player option. The ‘not friendly-not hurtful’ AAV of his deal might turn the Yankees off though, even though that kind of move should be made.

  16. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    I’d rather have Melky than Gordon for less years (1), less money, better defense, fewer k’s, switch hitting, and probably close enough offensive production, and no prospects or young players traded.

  17. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    He only has an AAV of like 9 million though.. that’s the important number.

  18. Jerkface October 27th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    He only has an AAV of like 9 million though.. that’s the important number.

    10 million, it would be around 9.3 million if he had a team option instead of a player option.

  19. CompassRosy October 27th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    Hi YF ~

    Yes, I’d have to say TW – the youngest but, the one with the most upside. Brandon Mauer is interesting (kinda flying under the radar of “the big 3″).

    I think Ramirez has a lot of potential as well and, since he’s got some big league innings under his belt, wouldn’t be surprised to see him in the M’s rotation come April.

  20. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    JF, how do you calc Jeter’s AAV? for 2013? 2014 possibilities?

  21. jmills October 27th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    I want nine mill, for throwing a ball around.

  22. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    Thanks for the clarification JF, I couldn’t remember his exact value.

    What if instead of us putting all our efforts into Upton and Headley, we went after Gordon and Olt? We could keep more of our prospects and still plug some holes..

  23. jmills October 27th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Shame, hi! Its not worth the time. :)

  24. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    And to be clear, by ‘we’ I mean LoHud.. not the Yankees lol

  25. jmills October 27th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Thanks, Shame – ” Lohud not Yankees! “

  26. Jerkface October 27th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    JF, how do you calc Jeter’s AAV? for 2013? 2014 possibilities?

    3 years/$51M (2011-13), plus 2014 player option

    re-signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 12/6/10
    11:$15M, 12:$16M, 13:$17M, 14:$8M player option ($3M buyout)
    $2M annually deferred without interest, payable each 3/15, 2015-17 (present-day AAV about $16M)
    2014 option may increase to $17M based on awards earned in 2011-13: $4M for AL MVP; $2M for 2nd-6th in MVP vote; $1.5M for Silver Slugger; $0.5M each for Gold Glove, ALCS MVP, WS MVP

    Player options are included in AAV Calc so Jeter counts like this

    15+16+17+8 / 4 = 14 AAV

    If he declines the option the team will have avoided 15+16+17 / 3 = 16 – 14 = 2 million AAV in potential cost per season. The CBA rules state that if options are declined that would mean avoided payments, those payments come due in the contract season for the option year that was declined. Additionally, in this case the option buyout is also considered for the option year declined. So 2 x 3 + 3 buyout = 9 million.

    If Jeter gets any MVP votes or a silver slugger, those bonuses will affect the 2014 season. In which case it will be 14 AAV + bonuses.

    If he declines it he will count as 9 million in 2014.

  27. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Thanks JF

  28. MTU October 27th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    I’ve talked about trading for Gordon in the past.

    Sign me up.

    Nova or Phelps + in exchange.

    Plays 3B or Corner.

  29. MTU October 27th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    That’s provided we can get AP and Kuroda re-signed.

    ;)

  30. wolfshadow October 27th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Love to get Gordon….KC needs pitching: Gordon & A. Crowe for Hughes (or Nova), Phelps and either Betances or Warren. Gordon can play LF and fill in at 3B and 1B giving Yanks some lineup flexibility.

  31. jmills October 27th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    MTU,..I can lend you Stieb for a while,…not too long. :) :)

  32. MTU October 27th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Gordon seems to have figured it out.

    He’s had 2 seasons in a row where he’s hit close to .300

    This year he had his highest total of 2 baggers in his career.

    Over 50.

    I like it. Have for some time.

    Make it happen Cashman.

  33. jmills October 27th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    MTU, do you have any desert pics for us?

  34. MTU October 27th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Mills-

    Sure.

    How bout these :

    https://picasaweb.google.com/109721757058432487394/Camelback?authkey=Gv1sRgCNjuzpePxMKw-QE#

    Taken on today’s hike.

    Enjoy.

    :)

  35. jmills October 27th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    MTU, let’s get this thing straight, your pics are beyond compare.

  36. MTU October 27th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Thanks Mills.

    I try.

    :)

  37. MTU October 27th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    New thread —->

  38. Frankg October 28th, 2012 at 8:07 am

    The Yankees are not good at trading. They have to get good players from the free-agent market and scrap heap of once good players. They recently traded three good major leaguers (Kennedy, Jackson and Coke) for one, Granderson, which may go down in history as the worst Yankee trade ever. Cashman gives up too much and it’s beginning to come back to bite him.

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