Are the Royals a potential trade partner?
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 27, 2012 
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Buster Olney’s blog is clearly a must-read, and today’s entry comes with this paragraph (immediately before the pay wall, for those of you who won’t cough up the cash).
“This is why nobody should be surprised if the Royals deal one of the core hitters from their every-day lineup — left fielder Alex Gordon, designated hitter Billy Butler, third baseman Mike Moustakas or first baseman Eric Hosmer.”
The beginning of the sentence — “This is why” — is a reference to the Royals need for pitching. Kansas City has a loaded farm system and a bunch of good young hitters at the big league level, but they’re still short on arms. The Yankees — if they can fill in some glaring holes that currently exist in their rotation – have Ivan Nova, Phil Hughes and David Phelps, who could be enough at least begin a conversation about acquiring Gordon or Moustakas (Gordon especially, Hosmer and Butler don’t fit quite as well).
That said, neither Gordon nor Moustakas has a bad contract, so those are going to be pretty desirable pieces on the trade market, and the Royals are already said to be heavily scouting Mariners pitching prospect James Paxton.
Ironically, the M’s hitters are out-performing the M’s pitchers in the early going in the AFL.
Nova for Gordon would be awesome
I don’t think they’ll trade Moose cheaply as they don’t have the depth at 3B that they do in the outfield…..they could trade Gordon and then plug a top 5 overall prospect right in there in Wil Myers
Hi guys, out here in my yard thinking about my fabric Yankees cap some bird took a crap on circa ’77 or, ’78 ( probably some Jay
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Good times
It’d probably take more than just Nova, but I agree.. Gordon would be great to have. It seems like he’d cost you less than Upton, is that the case?
I’m not quite sure why Toronto let San Fran’s 2nd baseperson get away.
Rosy, the AFL is a hitter’s league. Who of your youngun pitchers would you least want to lose? Taijuan? I’ll believe Yanks actually trade for young hitting when I see it…
Yankees will trade for Gordon and he will hit 240 with the Yankees. Thats’s how it always works out. Lol
The, Jays,….have to be better next year, or else, …..I’m dedicating myself to my Formula 1 career.
Shame Spencer says:
October 27, 2012 at 6:04 pm
It’d probably take more than just Nova, but I agree.. Gordon would be great to have. It seems like he’d cost you less than Upton, is that the case?
Nova + Cervy?
. I would think he would cost less than Upton but I dunno…..Gordon was a better player last year an is on an equally affordable contract….. He is older though and doesn’t have the same upside J Ups does
Free Bret!
If you could get Gordon with Nova being the centerpiece instead of Phelps or Hughes.. maybe Nova, one of the AAA pitchers, Nunez and maybe another mid-level prospect, that’d be awesome. You could still look into a deal for a 3B…
gordon is owed 35m over the 2014-16 period.
who thinks hal would spend that ?
I want George Brett on my team too, all that pine tar and stuff. Sign me up.
For AAV purposes Gordon will count as 10 million per year. He would be an ideal player to acquire, being in his prime and likely to be controlled to age 31. 32 if he exercises his player option. The ‘not friendly-not hurtful’ AAV of his deal might turn the Yankees off though, even though that kind of move should be made.
I’d rather have Melky than Gordon for less years (1), less money, better defense, fewer k’s, switch hitting, and probably close enough offensive production, and no prospects or young players traded.
He only has an AAV of like 9 million though.. that’s the important number.
He only has an AAV of like 9 million though.. that’s the important number.
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10 million, it would be around 9.3 million if he had a team option instead of a player option.
Hi YF ~
Yes, I’d have to say TW – the youngest but, the one with the most upside. Brandon Mauer is interesting (kinda flying under the radar of “the big 3″).
I think Ramirez has a lot of potential as well and, since he’s got some big league innings under his belt, wouldn’t be surprised to see him in the M’s rotation come April.
JF, how do you calc Jeter’s AAV? for 2013? 2014 possibilities?
I want nine mill, for throwing a ball around.
Thanks for the clarification JF, I couldn’t remember his exact value.
What if instead of us putting all our efforts into Upton and Headley, we went after Gordon and Olt? We could keep more of our prospects and still plug some holes..
Shame, hi! Its not worth the time.
And to be clear, by ‘we’ I mean LoHud.. not the Yankees lol
Thanks, Shame – ” Lohud not Yankees! “
JF, how do you calc Jeter’s AAV? for 2013? 2014 possibilities?
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3 years/$51M (2011-13), plus 2014 player option
re-signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 12/6/10
11:$15M, 12:$16M, 13:$17M, 14:$8M player option ($3M buyout)
$2M annually deferred without interest, payable each 3/15, 2015-17 (present-day AAV about $16M)
2014 option may increase to $17M based on awards earned in 2011-13: $4M for AL MVP; $2M for 2nd-6th in MVP vote; $1.5M for Silver Slugger; $0.5M each for Gold Glove, ALCS MVP, WS MVP
Player options are included in AAV Calc so Jeter counts like this
15+16+17+8 / 4 = 14 AAV
If he declines the option the team will have avoided 15+16+17 / 3 = 16 – 14 = 2 million AAV in potential cost per season. The CBA rules state that if options are declined that would mean avoided payments, those payments come due in the contract season for the option year that was declined. Additionally, in this case the option buyout is also considered for the option year declined. So 2 x 3 + 3 buyout = 9 million.
If Jeter gets any MVP votes or a silver slugger, those bonuses will affect the 2014 season. In which case it will be 14 AAV + bonuses.
If he declines it he will count as 9 million in 2014.
Thanks JF
I’ve talked about trading for Gordon in the past.
Sign me up.
Nova or Phelps + in exchange.
Plays 3B or Corner.
That’s provided we can get AP and Kuroda re-signed.
Love to get Gordon….KC needs pitching: Gordon & A. Crowe for Hughes (or Nova), Phelps and either Betances or Warren. Gordon can play LF and fill in at 3B and 1B giving Yanks some lineup flexibility.
MTU,..I can lend you Stieb for a while,…not too long.
Gordon seems to have figured it out.
He’s had 2 seasons in a row where he’s hit close to .300
This year he had his highest total of 2 baggers in his career.
Over 50.
I like it. Have for some time.
Make it happen Cashman.
MTU, do you have any desert pics for us?
Mills-
Sure.
How bout these :
https://picasaweb.google.com/109721757058432487394/Camelback?authkey=Gv1sRgCNjuzpePxMKw-QE#
Taken on today’s hike.
Enjoy.
MTU, let’s get this thing straight, your pics are beyond compare.
Thanks Mills.
I try.
New thread —->
The Yankees are not good at trading. They have to get good players from the free-agent market and scrap heap of once good players. They recently traded three good major leaguers (Kennedy, Jackson and Coke) for one, Granderson, which may go down in history as the worst Yankee trade ever. Cashman gives up too much and it’s beginning to come back to bite him.