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Bochy’s approach: “The guys that got you there”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 27, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

As the World Series shifts to Detroit for tonight’s Game 3 — 8:07 p.m. on FOX — the Tigers need to take all three games at Comerica to take the lead in this series. How have the Giants done what the Yankees couldn’t do? By sticking with what worked all season.

“When you’re in postseason, you pretty much want to go with the guys that got you there and the order that brought you to the dance, so to speak,” Giants manager Bruce Bochy said. “This guy (Hunter Pence) is a good hitter, and I like his presence in the lineup, where he’s at, and I think it’s important we stay behind our guys, and they need to know it.”

Pence has hit .182/.193/.255 this postseason, meaning he would have fit nicely in the Yankees postseason lineup. Bochy, though, has kept Pence in the fifth spot in the order, exactly where he was in almost every game after his trade from Philadelphia.

Would the Yankees fate have been different had Joe Girardi showed similar confidence in his hitters? I have no idea. The Yankees offensive struggles came from almost a complete meltdown throughout the order, and Girardi tried to right the ship. Maybe he would have been better of letting the ship try to right itself, but he was clearly going to take heat either way.

“I made decisions based on the season, a month, what I’d seen,” Girardi said. “For me to go back and say I would have changed anything, these weren’t just, let me go off the top of my head and make a decision. These were things we evaluated a lot before we made out decisions. I don’t look back and second-guess myself, no I don’t.”

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223 Responses to “Bochy’s approach: “The guys that got you there””

  1. MTU October 27th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Enjoy the game folks.

    Catch U later.

  2. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Can’t fault Girardi for the moves he made. Swisher can’t perform in the postseason and ARod was simply lost at the plate.

    Frankly, it’s amazing Girardi managed this team to so many victories in the regular season. He overachieved.

  3. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Last night I posted my “Greinke Plan”

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....nt-2489017

    Here’s the roster/salaries:

    Pos Name AAV

    C Russell Martin 7.50

    1B Mark Teixeira 22.50

    2B R. Cano 23.00

    3B A. Rodriguez 27.50

    SS Derek Jeter 14.00

    LF Melky Cabrera 7.00

    CF Brett Gardner 3.00

    RF Ichiro Suzuki 7.00

    DH

    B (SS, 2B) Eduardo Nunez 0.50

    B (3B, 1B) Eric Chavez 1.50

    B (OF)

    B (C)

    SP CC Sabathia 20.30

    SP Zack Greinke 21.00

    SP Hiroki Kuroda 13.30

    SP Andy Pettitte 9.00

    SP Ivan Nova 0.50

    CL David Robertson 3.00

    RP Joba Chamberlain 2.00

    RP David Aardsma 0.50

    RP Boone Logan 2.50

    RP

    RP

    LR David Phelps 0.50

    Total: 186.10 mil

    I estimated arb raises. I’m not sure all the AAV’s are 100% correct, but it’s close. The total is without LH DH, OF and C backup, and 2 back end relievers. This is *with* Cano getting his contract (@23 mil AAV).

    In 2014 Kuroda, Pettitte, Kuroda and Ichiro would drop off (~36 mil).

    If you wanted, you could insert Alex Gordon instead of Ichiro and it adds ~3 mil AAV, also makes the lineup stronger. If you lost Nova getting Gordon you can make Phelps the #5 starter and find another cheap long man.

    Jeter – SS/DH
    Melky – LF
    Cano – 2B
    Teixeira – 1B
    Arod – 3B
    Gordon – RF
    DH (lh dh vs rhp, Nunez (ss) vs lhp)
    Martin – C
    Gardner – CF

    This is a good lineup with a strong 1-2 punch of CC + Greinke even in 2014 and beyond.

  4. ron October 27th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    I agree,sign melky,and keep our kids,or use them for another player.
    Melky is good enough compared to gordon,maybe better,we stay out of a longterm contract,and melky is for only a year or two.
    I’d also look to extend hughes.
    Thios is our chance to get him below market value.

    Give him 5/40,or 4/32 million.
    He should take it.

    I’d call texas,and see if cano get’s us profar,and olt,even if we have to throw in someone else,then sign a few free agents.
    We can build a nice powerhouse team,if we do it right.

  5. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    correction: In 2014 Kuroda, Pettitte, *Melky* and Ichiro would drop off (~36 mil).

  6. ron October 27th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    I’d also get rid of martin.

  7. tomingeorgia October 27th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    The question is, where has this strike zone been all summer? They’re actually calling them right in the World Series.

  8. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Just stopping by to say GO GINTS!!!

    Busy with Sandy preparation. Wondered to myself how this would have played out with Sandy in the background. Would a tarp save Yankee Stadium? Would there even be power? Would there have been other contingencies? This would have been a God-awful mess.

  9. Benny Blanco October 27th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Giants are focused.

  10. Against All Odds October 27th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Giants lead 1-0

  11. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    The Giants are relentless …

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Hi Tigers! The baseball gods said hi!!!

    :)

    BUT – I bet there’s a good chance that the ASG gets returned to the AL next year!

  13. Cashmoney October 27th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    those meatballs served up by Sanchez are finally getting smack around by the Giants.

  14. Hassey October 27th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Yes there’s no question what the giants are doing to Detroit right now. It’s like the tigers are being forced to play this on ice and can’t help but let the whole shebang get away from them

  15. Cashmoney October 27th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    blanco crushed that pitch by staying back and trusting his hands… a good example of what the Yank fail or could not do during those counts ….

  16. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Jack-

    Like your attempt at fixing the Yankees. That is 186.1M for 20 of the 40 man roster calculateed at the end of the 2013 season for LT purposes.

    Opening day payroll per Cot’s this season was nearly 210M, and didn’t include any in season additions.

    LT is 42.5% on amount over 178M this coming season and you have to include the other twenty players plus everyone’s benefits such as medical insurance, etc.

    I don’t think Hal and Co. will be spending more than your amount[186.1] for all 40 players for the coming season and will be willing to add another 5-6M for inseason additions.

    Just my 2-3 cents.

  17. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Anyway, go Giants, sweep the Tigers so we can start the wheeling and dealing that much earlier.

  18. Cashmoney October 27th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    can’t watch this anymore… it’s like watching other children open their christmas presents.

    later.

  19. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    Vogelsong has been a beast this entire postseason. Of course, all the experts said the Tigers had the better starting staff, with McCarver giving the Tigers two check marks for their starting staff (usually just one check mark used for these comparisons) when compared to the Giants starting staff.

  20. NYY_Girl_Penny October 27th, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    We should rebuild the team around melky cabrera, hes clearly the best hitter out there and one of the bests in the game. I also would like to keep swisher at a resonable deal. Say 6/160 should get it done, also sign martin to a 2/30 and are season is pretty much set for 2013. Thatd give us the most feared and probably the best offense in all of baseball! As long as melky doesnt cost us more than 5/110 i mean.

  21. mick October 27th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Thats how you turn a DP.
    No drama, no fancy style.
    No dropped relays without explanation.
    Efficient, quiet baseball.
    No prima donna, no worship at the throne, no hostage situation…

  22. NYY_Girl_Penny October 27th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Lots of einsteins here lately. This place has gone to the dump.. Not just the emotional maturity but now we have people wanting to sign more mediocre talent .. Smh, scary part is people here actually believe they have a clue. Didnt know this place got this awful and ridiculous.

    Lets sign mitt romney if all else fails.

    Cya around, maybe !

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    How DARE any of you have an idea that does comport with Penny’s! I’ve never seen such ignorant people. And you have the audacity to believe you have a clue??? You have to be the most stupid bunch of morons God ever put breath into! You should be embarassed to walk the earth!

    And I agree with Penny that we shouldn’t sign Melky! The Yankees don’t need any negative publicity and who’s to say how long Melky’s been using. How do we know we’re not getting totally used goods, not to mention that the Melky-Robby tandem could be a disaster!

    Oh wait. That’s not what Penny said? Never mind!

    :lol:

    I’m totally saddened that Penny is considering leaving. What a great addition to the forum he/she/it was.

    **************

    What do you think MLB would have done had the series been heading back to the Bronx on Wednesday? Any thoughts? Let’s take for granted that the City would still be a mess or even without power. Would the games be put on hold until everything was settled? Would MLB try to ship the Yanks off to one of the healthy AL stadiums and forced them to play there? Just curious as to what you think could have been the outcome, if Sandy had wreaked a lot of damage.

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    should read “doesn’t comport with Penny’s”

  25. RMS October 27th, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    . What a great addition to the forum he/she/it was.

    ——————————————————————-
    Wow.

  26. Duh Innings II October 27th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    MY 2013 YANKEES

    Rotation:

    1. Sabathia

    2. Jake Peavy signed for one year and $18M (use $8M cleared letting go of Garcia and Feliciano and $10M saved re-signing Mo to a one-year $5M contract)

    3. Kuroda re-signed for one year and $13.3M ($2.3M raise offset by letting go of Jones and $0.3M of $1.4M paying Gardner half of what he made in 2012)

    4. Hughes making say $6M ???

    5. Pettitte re-signed for one year and $5M (double his 2012 salary and the same amount as Mo so both future retired number Yankees make the same amount)

    Bullpen:

    Rivera re-signed for one year and $5M

    Robertson

    Aardsma (2013 club option picked up)

    Rapada re-signed for a year and an amount more than the $525K he made in 2012 ($650K?)

    Logan

    Chamberlain

    Eppley re-signed for a year and an amount more than the $481K he made in 2012 ($525K or what Rapada made in 2012?)

    Bench:

    Stewart, Chavez, Nix, and Ibanez re-signed for 2013 only, each gets a $100K raise (only $400K in total raise money for the bench.)

    Starting Nine / Batting Order:

    Jeter

    Ichiro RF re-signed for one year and $6M with $5M deferred like he had $5M deferred for 2012 so the Yanks pay only $1M of his salary in 2013

    Cano

    Teixiera

    Melky Cabrera LF re-signed for one year and $7M

    A.J. Pierzynski C signed for one year and $7.5M ($1.5M raise and the same amount Martin made in 2012)

    Swisher DH re-signed for one year and $13.3M ($3.05M raise) or two years at $10.25M (his 2012 salary) a year for $20.5M total or Torii Hunter signed for a year and $10.25M if Swisher rejects his offers.

    Rodriguez (All the players before him are better hitters than him now, so too bad if he doesn’t like batting eighth.)

    Gardner CF making $1.4M or half his 2012 salary since he barely played in 2012 (trade Granderson for prospects)

    $15M cleared trading Granderson + $12.5M cleared buying out Soriano =
    $27.5M – 7M Cabrera =
    $20.5M – 2.5M raise to Pettitte =
    $18M – 2.3M raise to Hughes =
    $15.7M – 0.4M raise to the bench =

    $15.3M saved ($12.25M if Swisher makes $13.3M for 2013) plus X – $1M saved re-signing Suzuki since the Yanks took on more than $1M of his remaining salary for 2012 and $1.1M more paying Gardner less

  27. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Always entertaing when idiot trolls call other people idiots.

  28. Duh Innings II October 27th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Note: Raises for Teixiera, Cano, Jeter, Robertson, and Logan lower the $15.3M + saved amount – ‘still a nice chunk of money saved to get two from a starting pitcher, a reliever, and a bat for the stretch run. These raises are offset a bit by Chamberlain making less than the $1.6M he made for 2012.

  29. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    As for the subject of this thread, I’m pretty sure Bochy doesn’t have someone on his bench that had a 900 ops vs rhp (Chavez). Makes the decision making pretty easy for him…

  30. Jerkface October 27th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Gardner & Joba won’t make less than their current salaries next year. Very rare for players to lose money in arbitration, let alone half. Most likely they will receive marginal raises of around a couple hundred thousand.

  31. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Berry is awful

  32. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Feels like now or never for the tiggers

  33. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Wow.

  34. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Never

  35. WMD October 27th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    good to see that the tigers are taking hitting tips from the yankees hitters

  36. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Greinke is playing with the.. Angels? I can never remember who he plays for, he keeps moving around.

  37. Jerkface October 27th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Totally loving the Tigers getting big time exposed.

  38. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    @BloggingBombers

    Vogelsong gets Miggy to pop up to Crawford at short. Comerica sounds like a library. Giants still lead 2-0 after five.

    —————————

    Quiet fans?! ….Imagine that.

  39. Jerkface October 27th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    Greinke plays for the Angels where he was traded this season. I’d sign him to an AJ Burnett deal 16.5 million AAV. He is cool.

  40. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    “Feels like now or never for the tiggers”

    I’m thinking maybe never?

    Can you imagine the inhumanity of seeing a bases-loaded situation and see your team make nothing of it? How does the other pitcher have to be feeling? Grins all around? And it’s the indignity of having it happen in your own stadium?

    How does it feel Tigers?

    :D

  41. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Signing Greinke to an AJ deal takes a lot of money and spends it on something that’s not the Yanks primary issue IMO….I like Greinke but they need offense more….now if Kuroda and Andy leave then that’s changes things a bit….bu assuming they are back Id rather sign Hamilton to a 5 year deal than Greinke to a 5 year deal

  42. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    I hope the Giants sweep so the Yankees luke warm stove can crank up!

  43. Jerkface October 27th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Sorry I was in old Yankees mode.

  44. NYY_Girl_Penny October 27th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    October 27, 2012 at 10:05 pm
    @BloggingBombers

    Vogelsong gets Miggy to pop up to Crawford at short. Comerica sounds like a library. Giants still lead 2-0 after five.

    —————————

    Quiet fans?! ….Imagine that.
    —–

    Stadium was rockin it was quiet after miggy popped up for a total of 2m

    Can u imagine?

  45. RMS October 27th, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    Melky used peds
    Alex used peds
    Andy used hgh

    Sign Melky.

  46. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Jerkface says:
    October 27, 2012 at 10:13 pm
    Sorry I was in old Yankees mode.

    Old school Yanks would sign Grienke and Hamilton and the. Sign more players if they didn’t pan out….

  47. NYY_Girl_Penny October 27th, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    its Nice to see u repeating my thought about melky/cano not good for one another. However did you manage to think outside the box? Funny how almost everybody disagrees with the person who offers the most insight, then attacks them, pishes them off the blog. Later , sometimes years later, they have come to realize the same opinion but instead of realizing where the insight came from they attemp to wear it as their own.

    Man of steel said, Its hard being the omnipotent one sorrounded by troglodytes, so glad thats not the case here, weve already alienated everyone with the gate key. Lol

  48. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    RMS – Alex and Andy were veterans of the game. I don’t think it’s rocket science to see that Alex was a natural talent, unless you believe that he was using in high school at then throughout his career.

    Alex and Andy were already on the team. Unless you were going to ship them off on a slow boat to China, their admissions about useage really weren’t going to change much.

    The Yankees let go of Melky (I hated to see the guy leave) for reasons of their own. I can’t imagine that they’d want him back with both the stigma of using and total uncertainty about exactly what his talent level is.

    That said, if the Yanks took him back I’d have his back. I’m just doubting that they would do it. I don’t see that it makes any sense to do it.

    I’m thinking there’s a much greater chance that you’d see Ichiro back, Gardner out there, and Granderson in center. Just my guess.

  49. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    RMS October 27th, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    Melky used peds
    Alex used peds
    Andy used hgh

    Sign Melky.

    ——————-

    I agree.

    I wish Grienke was in the 10-12 million AAV range instead… then it might be an easier sell to Hal. You could afford to move 2 of Hughes/Phelps/Nova and have a bit of a bridge with CC and Grienke.

  50. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    All said, I’d rather be in the Series than not…That said, it ain’t looking good.

  51. Duh Innings II October 27th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    If Lincecum pitches another 2 1/3 shutout innings in the World Series tonight and the Giants win the World Series, should Lincecum win the Series MVP or should Pablo Sandoval for hitting three homeruns in Game 1 including a pair off Verlander?

    I think Lincecum and Sandoval should be the dual Series MVP and why not? Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling were the dual MVP of the 2001 World Series which I thought was BS i.e. it should’ve went to Johnson for Schilling gave up the tie-breaking solo homerun to Alfonso Soriano putting the Yanks up 2-1 in Game 7 and Johnson had a better series besides coming in for relief in Game 7 after winning Game 6.

  52. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    If they can extend Hughes… you gotta try right now and get him locked at like an 8 million AAV through 2016.

  53. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    The Yankees successfully rubbed off on the Tigers it appears….

  54. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    You could make a case for Blanco as the Series MVP…he is hitting…and catching everything out there.

  55. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    We need 4 OFers.. I’m still considering Ichi to be our 4th.

  56. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Blake, yep. Thanks for passing that bug along. :)

  57. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Oooooo.. that was close…I think he was safe.

  58. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    I think he was safe, actually.

  59. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    October 27, 2012 at 10:28 pm
    If they can extend Hughes… you gotta try right now and get him locked at like an 8 million AAV through 2016.

    Yea….that’d be like 4/32 right….. That’d be great

  60. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    Shame, I think Fielder sort of blocked the view. !

  61. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    Who is this Cabrera guy on the Giants? He’s pretty sessy. Let’s sign him. (although without the beard I bet he goes from an 8 to a 5.)

  62. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    blake – Yep. I almost hope the first order of business outside of Kuroda (a really big piece, IMO) and the arb offers should be the extensions of Cano and Hughes.

  63. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    “its Nice to see u repeating my thought about melky/cano not good for one another. However did you manage to think outside the box? Funny how almost everybody disagrees with the person who offers the most insight, then attacks them, pishes them off the blog.”

    I think nowhere but outside the box. That’s why you have such a hard time keeping up with me. Funny how everybody disagrees with the person who offers the most insight? Been there, done that, slugger. Only I don’t let it phase me. For some of us, it’s enough to voice our opinions. We don’t need adulation from other mere mortals.

    About “pishing” you off the blog? I seem to remember you saying you were leaving because this place has gone to the dumps, the “einsteins” here were suggesting mediocre hirings, and you don’t know how the place got so awful and ridiculous, and “Cya around, maybe !”

    Sounds like you pished yourself out of here. And based on your opinion of this place, I’d say you made a good decision! Take good care!!

  64. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    Yea they should certainly explore extensions for both Hughes and Cano….shouldn’t do it unless its a good deal but they need to explore it

  65. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    “The Yankees successfully rubbed off on the Tigers it appears….”

    Perhaps you gave the Tigers too much credit to begin with? Nah, couldn’t be that!

  66. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Jacksquat, I saw your posts the other day on pitching and offense. Pretty interesting–with a clear strategy behind them. The Yankees may not get to where they need with that line up but you may be 30% there. Question for you–is there a better alternative to Greinke? Someone with maybe less risk but also less cost? Okay, okay, Tigers getting beat–but I think Sanchez has pitched well and he could be available and would likely cost less than Greinke.

  67. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    “Perhaps you gave the Tigers too much credit to begin with? Nah, couldn’t be that!”

    Nah I’ve said all along they weren’t that good….they were the 7th best team in the AL this year….. Just shows how bad the Yankees were in the ALCS

  68. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    Yea they should certainly explore extensions for both Hughes and Cano….shouldn’t do it unless its a good deal but they need to explore it

    ———————

    Oh yeah, the only reason you would is because it would be good terms.. I think with Cano you’re really doing it to gauge what he’s looking for and with Hughes I think there’s more of a chance he actually bites and takes it.

    Just getting either one settled would answer a lot of questions going forward and open your up your options.

  69. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Blake, all true. And yet…

  70. NYY_Girl_Penny October 27th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    not biting tonight trisha. carry on. happy thoughts.

  71. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    “Question for you–is there a better alternative to Greinke? Someone with maybe less risk but also less cost?”

    They could stick with the guys they have that did pretty well in 2012…..

  72. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    So I haven’t followed that closely… what the hell happened to Lincecum?

  73. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    “Question for you–is there a better alternative to Greinke? Someone with maybe less risk but also less cost?”

    They could stick with the guys they have that did pretty well in 2012…..

    —————–

    We can’t, we’re trading them!! ;)

  74. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    Can we pitch hit Al Kaline? Might help.

  75. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    “All said, I’d rather be in the Series than not…”

    Reminds me of the Sux making a seeming comeback in the 9th inning, only to be SMASHED at the last possible second. I figure the baseball gods wanted the Tigers humiliated on a bigger stage than the ALCS as payback for Kenny Rogers and his 2006 pinetar capers. I’m big into karma.

    Works for me!

    Besides, Sandy would have made a total mess for NYrs and the Yanks.

    (It’s early to be calling the Tigers finished, but its looking good. The thing that would make it perfect from my perspective would be if they got swept and had to watch the celebration on their own field. That would be perfect symmetry from my perspective, since their cheating in 2006 ended up costing the Yankees.

    I like that kind of symmetry. They could lose on their own field, in a sweep, the way they just swept the Yanks.

    However they lose – as long as they lose.

    :)

  76. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Eeeep!

    @twc_hurricane

    Overwash now reported between Frisco and Hatteras, NC, as well as near Nags Head. #Sandy. http://wxch.nl/XCqc2A

  77. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    “So I haven’t followed that closely… what the hell happened to Lincecum?”

    Velocity down and command much worse than normal this year

  78. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Lincecum has been a bulldog out of the pen … This series (so far) has not been competitive.

  79. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    Yanks don’t need more offense, they just need a more consistent offense. I think my plan accomplishes that, more batting avg, more contact.

    If Greinke can be had for 16.5 AAV, that would be nice, but I think he’ll be at least a little more.

  80. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    “not biting tonight trisha. carry on. happy thoughts.”

    LMAO!!!!!

    NYY_Girl_Penny October 27th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    Lots of einsteins here lately. This place has gone to the dump.. Not just the emotional maturity but now we have people wanting to sign more mediocre talent .. Smh, scary part is people here actually believe they have a clue. Didnt know this place got this awful and ridiculous.

    Lets sign mitt romney if all else fails.

    Cya around, maybe !

    _____________________________

    Now be a good it and leave like you said you were going to! This place is too stupid for one with your great mind!

    :lol:

  81. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Are they booing their own players?! Ingrates!!!! Losers!!! Abominations!!

  82. RMS October 27th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Alex and Andy were veterans of the game. I don’t think it’s rocket science to see that Alex was a natural talent, unless you believe that he was using in high school at then throughout his career.
    ——————————————————————————————————————
    There were many players using but were never caught. Using (Melky) should not stop the Yankees from signing him. But, as much as I would like to see him on this team again, I don’t think Cashman will sign him.

  83. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Jacksquat, my comment was agreeing with. I think it is a good step forward. My only question was whether or not Greinke would be the best number two or if there were better or more creative options. I haven’t seen a list of all the free agent pitchers…

  84. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Wherever I go.. Brad Pitt being pretentious shows up…

  85. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Shame…I agree. Not a fan of that.

  86. Triple Short of a Cycle October 27th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    I’ll be surprised if Grienke signs for less then 20

  87. blake October 27th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    “Yanks don’t need more offense, they just need a more consistent offense”

    That’s kinda the same thing….more can also mean better quality and more varies….they need more balance

  88. NYY_Girl_Penny October 27th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Blake, Lincecum is suffering from the cocoon of adolescence or simply put “stardom” coupled with “youth”. He came in to the season over-partied and unprepared thinking he can just continue where he left off. This season is a wash for him but i have a feeling he has many more potential cy youngs to come.

    my luck, my fate, my fortune; Girardi and Chanel #5, inevitable .

  89. mick October 27th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    The Tigers haven’t been the same since Kaline, Charlie Maxwell and Frank Lary left tho Kirk Gibson was a good impersonator.

  90. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    blake – I thought at the start of the year it was just a fluke… It’s gonna be really interesting to see what happens with him last year. Never saw a guy that good just lose it so quickly, but I feel like it’s happened to pitchers before.

  91. mick October 27th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    That Pitt ad is heinous.

  92. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    Mick, we did all right in 1984…that team was crazy.

  93. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    @BloggingBombers

    Boos for the home team? Unheard of.

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  94. mick October 27th, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    84 was the best season any team ever had next to the 98 Yanks.

  95. NYY_Girl_Penny October 27th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    How in the world did these Detroit Tigers sweep us? How bad must we be for this team that is playing so fantastic to do that?

  96. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    Mick, true. But the 98 Yanks were a better team player by player. Still that 84 team was so much fun. I am not sure but I don’t think there was a hall of famer on the 84 team…while the 98 Yankees will have a few. I could be wrong, though.

  97. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Penny…I don’t know. I also lost two dinner bets because I never thought the Tigers would win let alone sweep…

  98. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    RMS – I loved the kid. I was really sad when the Ys traded him.

    I really don’t trust what we might end up getting back but mostly I agree that the Yanks probably wouldn’t take him back. They really don’t need a potential Robby-Melky nightmare, especially with the postseason Robby just came off.

    I do believe the prudent thing would be to leave Melky right where he is.

    ****************

    “Yanks don’t need more offense, they just need a more consistent offense.”

    jacksquat, I think that the Yankees should retool their entire offense and force them to use some of the fundamentals of the game. Every guy on that team should practice bunting. They should think sac fly, stealing more bases, all of it. Imagine if the bombers on that team also showed that they could play small ball with the best of them?

    If anyone knows, why did the Rangers let go of Jaramillo, and also the Cubs? Did he outlive his usefullness?

  99. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Mick, although I will say this. Alan Trammel and Jack Morris should be in the Hall. But objectively speaking I do think there is a bias from Hall voters against the Yankees.

  100. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Lincecum certainly has lost velocity and command and has been terrible much of the season. But the talent is there, and I expect him to rebound next year.

    Thing is, the guy is so small that he is going to have to learn to pitch with diminished velocity. His breaking balls and change are still phenomenal pitches.

    Bottom of the 8th… Tigers last chance?

  101. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    I might offer Greinke 6 x 19 with a 7th year vesting option. He would only be 34 in the 6th year, pretty good.

  102. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Tucker…yes…this is it.

  103. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Tigers fans giving it to Prince…

  104. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    Jacksquat, I would be afraid of giving Greinke that much. Does that make me a chicken?

  105. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Fielder is the new ARod…

  106. RMS October 27th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    I do believe the prudent thing would be to leave Melky right where he is.
    ——————————————————————————————————–
    trisha,

    It’s a shame, though. Melky is a switch hitter, can field, has a good arm, hits in the clutch, and doesn’t swing for the fences. A player the Yankees could use. Oh, well.

  107. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Can anyone explain how Posey caught that?

  108. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    I might offer Greinke 6 x 19 with a 7th year vesting option. He would only be 34 in the 6th year, pretty good.

    ————————-

    I think the only way they go beyond $12 million for another starter long term is if they really plan to go for it next year. You’d have CC, X-expensive pitcher, Kuroda and Andy (both of whom would be getting raises), and Hughes/Phelps/Nova. You’d have to anticipate not being able to afford one of Kuroda and Andy for 2014 (assuming they don’t make the decision for you by retiring). If you got another pitcher, you’d need to decide if you can keep Hughes at $8ish mil per or you’d have to move him. All this assumes you can fill out a 2014 rotation with 2 of Hughes/Phelps/Nova.

  109. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    These ingrate Tigers fans.. they’re doing nothing productive to help their team win right now…

  110. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    Lincecum’s stuff can be downright nasty … He would make a good closer, too

  111. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    :D

  112. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    The Tigers are likely to be shut out in back to back games. I think it puts the Yankees struggles in one series in context. It can happen. It does happen. Do the yankees need to improve? Yes. But what we are seeing here with the Tigers is why the changes to the Yankees should be incremental…not radical.

  113. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    RMS – well, where there’s life, there’s hope. Never say never, right? I was crazy about the kid. I’ll be honest about you. I’m not crazy about cheating. Anyway, it will be interesting to see where he ends up.

    What’s even more interesting is watching the Giants excel without him!

    ***********

    AL Central is a cake walk. I’ve always said that their teams show up the most refreshed because they’ve had the easiest time with the unbalanced schedule.

    As jerkface said, Detroit is being exposed and everyone’s seeing who they really are. The same reason that Verlander is so freakin’ overrated. He pitches in a pitcher’s park, in the easiest league in the AL. Check his home and road splits. He certainly doesn’t have Cy Young numbers on the road.

    The Al East is a tough division. By the time the season is over, those teams know they’ve played baseball. The Yankees were beaten up really good. Tell me about any real long-term or devastating injuries the Tigers had. Can’t think of any?

    They got hot at the right time. They’re overrated. Will thrill to see them go down. (if they do)

  114. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    Posey is a phenomenal athlete! A former shortstop.

  115. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    I still can’t believe the collective heft on the Tigers.

  116. Triple Short of a Cycle October 27th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    I think it puts the Yankees struggles in one series in context

    ———————————-

    Yanks didn’t hit in 2 series and faced mostly average pitching

  117. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    “Posey is a phenomenal athlete! A former shortstop.”

    Kid’s incredible.

  118. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    This is the third consecutive year the NL has schooled the AL in the World Series. There is more parity between the leagues. I also don’t think the AL East is still the dominant division in the game… Red sox are terrible. Jays are mediocre … We’ll see what the Yanks do in the offseason.

  119. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Yankee Trader October 27th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
    Jack-

    Like your attempt at fixing the Yankees. That is 186.1M for 20 of the 40 man roster calculateed at the end of the 2013 season for LT purposes.

    Opening day payroll per Cot’s this season was nearly 210M, and didn’t include any in season additions.

    LT is 42.5% on amount over 178M this coming season and you have to include the other twenty players plus everyone’s benefits such as medical insurance, etc.

    I don’t think Hal and Co. will be spending more than your amount[186.1] for all 40 players for the coming season and will be willing to add another 5-6M for inseason additions.

    Just my 2-3 cents.

    Almost all of the other 20 should be 500k players. Add a little for the LH DH. So 12 or 13 mil? Call it 199 total then. The Cot’s total for some reason doesn’t include salaries for all on the 40 man, and it’s also not AAV, so my 199 is probably considerably lower than 2012.

  120. mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    they’re doing nothing productive to help their team win right now…
    ======================
    theyre not there to help them, theyre there to enjoy themselves, that is their perogative.

    that there was an illustration on usage of the word there.

  121. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Brandon Belt has a loooong swing

  122. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Who knew Coke could actually pitch?

  123. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    We are doomed now…here comes Fear the Beard, Jr.

  124. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    mick – I’m being facetious, I’m a long standing supporter of the right to boo. I find it interesting that it is occasionally viewed as a unique phenomenon reserved for selfish Yankee fans.

  125. mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    84 Tigers had Kirk Gibson, Whitaker, Trammel, Parrish and HoJo…don’t forget MVP/Cy YOung reliever Willie Hernandez.

  126. mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    shame-Yankee fans can’t boo because it shows off their entitlement issues.

  127. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Mick, totally. I was at one of the WS games. But none of those guys will be in the Hall…Am I wrong?

  128. Benny Blanco October 27th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    who would you rather have now? Booney or Cokey?

  129. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Benny, if I am the Yankees–Booney. Coke will return to form at some point but good job by him.

  130. Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    shame-Yankee fans can’t boo because it shows off their entitlement issues.

    ————–

    No other teams’ fan base has enough championships to be so entitled ;)

  131. jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Shame Spencer October 27th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
    jacksquat October 27th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    I might offer Greinke 6 x 19 with a 7th year vesting option. He would only be 34 in the 6th year, pretty good.

    ————————-

    I think the only way they go beyond $12 million for another starter long term is if they really plan to go for it next year. You’d have CC, X-expensive pitcher, Kuroda and Andy (both of whom would be getting raises), and Hughes/Phelps/Nova. You’d have to anticipate not being able to afford one of Kuroda and Andy for 2014 (assuming they don’t make the decision for you by retiring). If you got another pitcher, you’d need to decide if you can keep Hughes at $8ish mil per or you’d have to move him. All this assumes you can fill out a 2014 rotation with 2 of Hughes/Phelps/Nova.

    I’m assuming that both Kuroda and Pettitte are gone after 2013, if they are even here for 2013. In my scenario Hughes is traded for a good prospect, Nova or Phelps are the 5th starter. In 2014 you would have CC, Greinke, and I’ll predict Pineda is at least #3 quality by then. Nova and/or Phelps can take at least 1 of the other 2 spots, so you’d need one more decent quality pitcher. The thing I like about adding Greinke is it gives security to the top 2 spots in the rotation for several years. I don’t think Hughes/Nova/Phelps are #2 pitchers, at least they shouldn’t be projected for that at this time.

  132. mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Lincecum and Zito are the Giants version of Cheech and Chong.

  133. JobaTipsHisCap October 27th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    wow, Tigers will be swept?
    if so, who is more pathetic, Yankees or Tigers?

  134. mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Shouldn’t Morris be?

  135. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Good one…I always thought of Zito as the modern day version of Spaceman Lee…and I mean that in a good way.

  136. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    mick, I believe Morris should be in the Hall…but that is a pretty fair debate.

  137. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    “I also don’t think the AL East is still the dominant division in the game… Red sox are terrible. Jays are mediocre.”

    AL East has been considered the most dominant division in the AL, and there have always been two teams down in the dumps. Just because the Sux have switched places with the O’s doesn’t change the overall difficulty.

    “This is the third consecutive year the NL has schooled the AL in the World Series”

    Hmmm. When’s the last time the AL had HFA? One of the reasons I wanted to see the Rangers far away from the WS was because I got tired of watching Ron Washington give away the ASG!

  138. mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    damn if a fan wants to boo he can boo, he’s just crying for his team, it’s their problem if they take it personally.

  139. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    Joba…is that a rhetorical questions?

  140. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    Yeah, nothing screams support for your team like booing!

    :lol:

  141. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    Romo has a strange looking glove…

  142. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Blanco is amazing…

  143. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Open mouths, Tigers. Time for your medicine!

  144. Benny Blanco October 27th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    Joe Buck makes every call as if its a homerun.. He’s worst than Kay.

  145. JobaTipsHisCap October 27th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    rating for this game 3 gonna be… ouuch
    SNL should be far more interesting.

  146. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    “wow, Tigers will be swept?
    if so, who is more pathetic, Yankees or Tigers?”

    I’ve always considered this a spurious type of question since we’ve seen actual application where a team who has swept us, has been swept by a team that we’ve swept. So where do you go with that? Nowhere.

  147. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    SNL. Thanks I forgot all about it.

  148. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Good job Giants.

    :)

  149. Against All Odds October 27th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    JobaTipsHisCap October 27th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    rating for this game 3 gonna be… ouuch
    ——————

    The whole series has been a bore.

  150. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    Well, from a Tiger perspective, we played well. Sometimes you do have to tip your cap and recognize their team is just better.

  151. deleonj October 27th, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    I guess the yanks are not the only team that can disappear in the playoffs

  152. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    I’d love to see if there’s any correlation between HFA and WS wins.

  153. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    Against, I have to agree. At least the characters on the Giants make it interesting–Panda, Fear the Beard, Jr, Lincecum, etc.

  154. Against All Odds October 27th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    be reasonable… October 27th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    Against, I have to agree. At least the characters on the Giants make it interesting–Panda, Fear the Beard, Jr, Lincecum, etc.

    ————————

    That’s true SF has some personalities

  155. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    “The whole series has been a bore.”

    I think it’s been great.

  156. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    The Giants have played great baseball. I can’t see how anybody could call that boring – unless of course you want the Tigers to win.

  157. mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Here is a song dedicated to the SF Giants:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVLr0bLYiIs

  158. mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Here’s a song for the diabetics out there:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXTEcyoH6Jk

  159. Against All Odds October 27th, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    The Giants have played great baseball. I can’t see how anybody could call that boring – unless of course you want the Tigers to win.

    ————————

    I want an actual challenge in the series. The Tigers don’t even seem to be there.

  160. mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    Here’s one re: upcoming Hurricane Sandy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?N.....=endscreen

  161. Against All Odds October 27th, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    “The whole series has been a bore.”

    I think it’s been great.

    ———————–

    Because you love seeing the Tigers being embarrassed which is not a problem this series hasn’t been great.

  162. Duh Innings II October 27th, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    The Giants are doing a 2012 Tigers ALCS on the Tigers.

    Lincecum and Sandoval = Dual 2012 World Series MVP

    I have to say this 3-0 series lead the Giants have which should result in a sweep or 4-1 Series victory for the Giants makes me feel a little better about the Yankees offensive flopjob in the ALCS because (this series) shows that the Yankees aren’t the only ones who could be / were shut down almost completely by good pitching. Even the team who shut the Yanks down could fall victim to what they did to the Yanks.

    In fact, if the Tigers are swept tomorrow, the Yanks had a better ALCS than the Tigers World Series because at least the Yanks came back in Game 1 of the ALCS and had as much of a chance to win that game as the Tigers with homefield advantage (score a run and the Yanks 5-4.)

    No one and I mean NO ONE predicted Verlander would be hammered, Sandoval would hit not one homerun but TWO homeruns off him and THREE in one game, Lincecum would hurl 4 2/3 shutout innings across two games, and the Tigers would be shut out in back to back games and held to just three runs in three games.

    MLB is king no matter what anyone says because it’s such an unpredictable, dramatic game.

  163. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    mick,

    Good one. If you don’t mind trading YouTube links, here’s one for folks who root for the Tigers (like me):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE

  164. mick October 27th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    Here’s one just cause it’s great:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  165. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    What is your definition of a great series? Big scores?

    I love low-scoring games. I think that’s true championship baseball. I think the Giants have played great baseball.

    I’m thrillled to see Detroit humiliated, yes, especially in front of their own crowd. But to me this is postseason baseball at its best, with the better team winning the games.

  166. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    “Good one. If you don’t mind trading YouTube links, here’s one for folks who root for the Tigers (like me):”

    Why don’t you find a Tiger’s forum?

  167. JobaTipsHisCap October 27th, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    trisha, have a nice weekend.

  168. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    Joba, you also.

  169. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    Trish, it seems to me that there are other people here who root for other teams. I think I have seen a Jays fan as well as a Mariners fan. And, I also root for the Yankees.

  170. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    They’re not here when their teams are in championship series.

  171. Against All Odds October 27th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    Why don’t you find a Tiger’s forum?
    ———————-

    Why should he find a Tigers forum?

  172. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    Also, aside from a few unfriendly folks, the quality of discourse in this forum is pretty good.

  173. tucker October 27th, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    All non-troll baseball fans should be welcome on this blog.

  174. Against All Odds October 27th, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    What is your definition of a great series? Big scores?

    —————–

    One that’s actually competitive.

  175. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    And when the season is over, the conversation will shift back to the Yankees, hot stove, etc. And as I have mentioned on more than one occasion I do root for the Yankees.

  176. be reasonable... October 27th, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    mick, are you only pulling Beach Boys? How about this one:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjmn7UHWD4

  177. mick October 28th, 2012 at 12:00 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQOaLP-qPmk

  178. jacksquat October 28th, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Uno mas, Gigantes. :)

    Sweep!

  179. be reasonable... October 28th, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Good one. But:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOMyS78o5YI

  180. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 28th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    And I wasn’t questioning your being here in general, just during a championship series when your team definitely has forums where you could be rooting with them.

  181. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 28th, 2012 at 12:05 am

    “Uno mas, Gigantes. :)

    Sweep!”

    :D

  182. mick October 28th, 2012 at 12:05 am

    their best:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  183. mick October 28th, 2012 at 12:06 am

    we agree…

  184. mick October 28th, 2012 at 12:08 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

    another great one

  185. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 28th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    “Also, aside from a few unfriendly folks, the quality of discourse in this forum is pretty good.”

    You called it a lot of vitriol the other day. What a difference a day makes, I guess.

    You showed up for the first time when? A few days ago?

  186. mick October 28th, 2012 at 12:10 am

    feel bad for those who couldn’t grow up with this music …

    nite all…

  187. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 28th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Night mick.

  188. mick October 28th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    enjoy the music trish?

  189. Against All Odds October 28th, 2012 at 12:13 am

    I love low-scoring games. I think that’s true championship baseball. I think the Giants have played great baseball.

    ——————–

    The Giants have played great but the Tigers are dead. I love baseball and it sucks the season is going to end tomorrow.

  190. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 28th, 2012 at 12:14 am

    “All non-troll baseball fans should be welcome on this blog.”

    Not everyone feels that way. I’m good with it.

    Of course, it’s not always easy figuring out the non-trolls.

    Anyway, GO GIANTS!

    Night all.

  191. mick October 28th, 2012 at 12:14 am

    anybody up for a Motown concert?

    another day , of course…

  192. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 28th, 2012 at 12:16 am

    “The Giants have played great but the Tigers are dead. I love baseball and it sucks the season is going to end tomorrow.”

    Against, while I would love to believe the Tigers will lose tomorrow I also agree that it sucks when baseball is over. I won’t be surprised if they have some kind of emergence. That’s why I’m not counting any chickens yet, even if it seems that I am.

  193. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 28th, 2012 at 12:17 am

    love the music mick.

    :)

    Concert on another day would be great.

  194. Against All Odds October 28th, 2012 at 12:18 am

    IDK I think they are can’t believe they are in this position right now. Shocked to the point they can’t recover.

  195. mick October 28th, 2012 at 12:21 am

    Tigers WS was against us.
    Ours was against the O’s.

  196. Against All Odds October 28th, 2012 at 12:24 am

    Good night everyone

  197. be reasonable... October 28th, 2012 at 12:26 am

    Trisha,

    I don’t remember my exact quote but that is not an accurate interpretation of what I think I said nor my position. I believe I said that I looked at a number of baseball blogs and I felt despite some of the vitriol this was a good blog. I believe you were the one to respond saying something to the effect of yes…but much less here than on many other sites. And, for the record, I agreed.

    Your comment “what a difference a day makes” is out of context and misrepresentative.

    More importantly, you were the one who called me names (“sock puppet?”) and also accused me of being someone that I am not. Honestly, you should have the decency to apologize.

    I believe I showed up last weekend…but I could go find the actual date if for some reason you think that is important.

    I really have no bone to pick with you…and I am not looking for a fight.

  198. be reasonable... October 28th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    At the end of the day, this is a Yankee blog…and as I have stated over and over…I root for the Yankees.

  199. Jerkface October 28th, 2012 at 1:04 am

    @YankeeSource

    Nippon Ham Fighters really not expecting any progress with Otani.

    @YankeeSource

    I could see the Detroit Tigers being a big player in Ryu Hyun Jin if he is posted. Scouted him heavily and Yoon Suk Min as well.

  200. jacksquat October 28th, 2012 at 7:59 am

    Jerkface October 28th, 2012 at 1:04 am
    @YankeeSource

    Nippon Ham Fighters really not expecting any progress with Otani.

    Then why did they draft him?

  201. blake October 28th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    Hoping the Giants go ahead and sweep the Tigers away…..

  202. MTU October 28th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    Morning.

    What happened to the Tigers O ?

    They showed a graphic during last night’s game.

    It demonstsrated that teams who sweep the LDS do poorly in the ALCS.

    It would appear that too many days off, instead of being a good thing, iss detrimental.

    Get hot. Stay hot.

    That’s the law of the Jungle in the PS.

    ;)

  203. blake October 28th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    “Then why did they draft him?”

    Sounds like to try and shame him into staying in Japan….

  204. MTU October 28th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Blake-

    Looks like we’re not the only team to go ice cold in the PS.

    ;)

  205. blake October 28th, 2012 at 8:13 am

    What happened to the Tigers O ?”

    They caught canthititus from the yanks……but really they didn’t hit much in the ALCS either….the Yankees were just so dreadful that they win anyway…

    Detroit isn’t a great team….they are a decent team that had the 12th best record in baseball and was wildly inconsistent all year…..that’s why it was so annoying that the Yanks just laid down for them….

  206. Yankee Trader October 28th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    On Otani-why did they draft him? Could not find your answer however….

    The Fighters have reportedly decided to give it there best until the end of the year. In thinking about Otani’s future, they see no point in drawing the matter out any longer than is absolutely — if they feel they are not making progress, they will step down any allow the eighteen-year-old to move forward with his original plans. Source: Sports Hochi 10/28/2012

  207. Yankee Trader October 28th, 2012 at 8:26 am

    MTU-

    I’m warming up to your suggestion to trade for Alex Gordon. Remaining straightforward contract.

    13:$9M, 14:$10M, 15:$12.5M, 16:$12.5M player option

  208. Villa Nova-Ya October 28th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    Last year Girardi stuck with his guys. Got ripped for that. At least he was trying to do something proactive to get the offense going.

    If you win, whatever you decided to do was right.

    If you lose, whatever you decided to do was wrong.

    I know this doesn’t fit with the “whatever the Yankees do is wrong” mantra here.

  209. Yankee Trader October 28th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    What can you tell me about Gordon, other than what his stats were last year?

    BA .294; vs lefties .248; vs righties .320; OB% .368
    51 Doubles, 5 triples, 14 homers, 72 RBIs, 140 strikeouts, 73 walks in 642 at bats
    17 assists, 2 errorrs
    10 SB’s in 15 tries

    Use all fields?
    Cover a lot of ground LF
    Other reasons to trade for him?

  210. MTU October 28th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    YT-

    Morning.

    Need to get AP and Kuroda re-upped first.

    There will be significant competition for Gordon’s services.

    If we want him we’ll need to show it.

    ;)

  211. MTU October 28th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    YT-

    Young. Versatile (plays 3B and OF).

    Good friends w. Joba.

    :)

  212. MTU October 28th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    Gordon has won a GG for his OF work.

    So I’d say his D is good too.

    ;)

  213. Yankee Trader October 28th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Villa-

    I’m glad Girardi tried to mix things up. Bobby Cox had only one WS title after the Braves won something like 14 straight division titles because he wouldn’t mix things up in the lineup.

    However, being that Girardi managed a year in the NL, I wouldn’t mind seeing some NL style play in the late innings when the Yankees need a run or to start a rally. A bunt perhaps to score a run with a speedy runner on 3rd.

  214. blake October 28th, 2012 at 8:44 am

    “Use all fields?
    Cover a lot of ground LF
    Other reasons to trade for him?”

    Good defender….affordable contract….no a huge platoon split….tons of doubles ….really hard worker from everything I’ve heard and read

  215. Yankee Trader October 28th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    Pettitte-Hopefully he doesn’t make the Yankees wait until January.

    Kuroda-Does he get the 13.3M qualifying offer, or test FA? I suspect he’s going to be strongly courted by the Dodgers[have stated they are looking for starting pitching], and I suspect the Angels, who he owned this season and last.

    You’re right. It’ll be difficult to include Hughes or Nova or Phelps in a package for Gordon, or any bat for that matter, without having an idea if you have at least 4 starters locked up.

    Now there are some other FA starters that are hitting FA, like
    Anibal Sanchez, Brandon McCarthy

  216. MTU October 28th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    YT-

    Yup. That’s the nub of the matter.

    We need AP and Kuroda locked up so that Hughes, Nova, or Phelps can be made available w/o endangering our Rotation depth for next year.

    Too bad we do not know what Pineda will bring. Can’t count him in at this point.

    If we could then we’d only need one of AP or Hiroki.

    Banuelos needs to be part of the Yankees future Rotation.

    They’ll need the other lefty when AP hangs ‘em up.

    I still think it’s possible that Warren will be in the mix in the future.

    Guys like Marshall are nearing completion too.

    We have plenty of pitching.

    This Winter I’m concentrating on the O.

    :)

  217. Yankee Trader October 28th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Blake-

    Do you really think that the Yankees will find a taker for Granderson and be willing to give up a good prospect as well as take on the 15M contract. If they could, here’s a plan that might work to field a very good OF next year.

    Trade for lefty Alex Gordon to play LF.
    Move Gardner to CF
    Sign FA righty Torii Hunter
    4th OFer-contact hitter who can play all 3 OF positions-FA righty Reed Johnson?

  218. blake October 28th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    “Do you really think that the Yankees will find a taker for Granderson and be willing to give up a good prospect as well as take on the 15M contract”

    I think they could yes….the Yanks could always eat a little money to get a better prospect as well….,which I what is recommend…..for 2013 the prospects coming back should matter more than the money….

  219. MTU October 28th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    I want to see Cashman go big game hunting this OS.

    Odds are he’ll settle for smaller game to go with the big, hairy Monsters he thinks he has already.

    Yankees need to rediscover the 98 formula.

    ;)

  220. Villa Nova-Ya October 28th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Yankee Trader -

    I don’t disagree about the late inning approach to get an additional run across, but I would say that you can’t wait until the playoffs to do it, if you’re going to do it. I think Girardi has a point that you can’t ask guys to do all of a sudden something you haven’t asked them to do all season. I think maybe the change has to be, in spring training, to tell every player to be prepared at any point during the season to be prepared to do something they may not feel all that comfortable doing (so, the point being – practice something different!)

    They did seem to play a little differently in September. I know it’s a point of view that’s ridiculed, but I think the team-wide offensive disappearing act is not something easily explained, AND Jeter going down sucked the wind out of the team AND if CC pitches on his regular day, AND if the umpires don’t blow the calls, things could have turned out differently.

    I don’t think the entire team needs to be traded.

  221. MTU October 28th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    New one —->

  222. blake October 28th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Gordon. Gardner, Hunter and Ichiro would be a great outfield…..I don’t think Hunter would take platoon role though

  223. 86w183 October 28th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    Hunter is a very good player, but the Yanks don’t need to shell out major $$$ for 37-year-old OF help. Hunter will cost as much as Swisher, though likely for fewer years.

    I like Gordon a lot, but don’t think I would give up Hughes for him…. unless Soria is part of the deal (and the medicals check out).

    Granderson might have appeal to a team with their own expiring contract situation they might want out of. That’s why I’ve suggested a Granderson/Halladay based swap. Philly has maxed out $$$$ and has better internal pitching options than OF.


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