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The roster as it is today

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 30, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A dozen Yankees became free agents yesterday. It was perfectly predictable, but seeing the names come off the roster brings a new appreciation for the current state of the team. Still waiting to find out whether Rafael Soriano is going to opt out, but for now, this is a rough estimate of the Yankees 25-man roster if today were Opening Day.

LINEUP
Brett Gardner LF
Derek Jeter SS
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Curtis Granderson CF
Eduardo Nunez DH
Chris Dickerson RF
Austin Romine C

The offense isn’t a complete mess. The top seven hitters in his lineup are legitimate Opening Day options, and all nine deserve consideration for at least a reserve role. The most glaring holes are at catcher and right field. If the Yankees don’t land a proven everyday catcher, they might as well let the prospect Romine sink or swim. His upside as an everyday guy is much higher than the alternatives. Dickerson proves there’s a little bit of outfield depth in place, but his value to the Yankees comes as a fourth or fifth outfielder, not as an Opening Day starter.

BENCH
Chris Stewart C
Jayson Nix INF
Corban Joseph INF
Ronnier Mustelier OF

Half of this year’s bench is still on the roster, and it’s not beyond imagination that both Stewart and Nix will be back for another season. Beyond that, though, things are slim. Right-handed Casey McGehee doesn’t do much to balance Rodriguez or Nunez, so I went with the lefty Joseph instead as a kind of Eric Chavez fill-in. The outfield is loaded with left-handed center fielders, so Mustelier gets my vote as a right-handed balance over Melky Mesa and Zoilo Almonte.

ROTATION
CC Sabathia
Phil Hughes
David Phelps
Ivan Nova
Adam Warren

The rotation thins out quickly, and there’s no chance the Yankees are going to let it stay that way. As it stands, they would have little choice but to count on Nova bouncing back, Phelps building off his rookie year, and Warren carrying his Triple-A second half into next season. Those three  fighting for the fifth spot in the rotation might not be out of the question, but considering general manager Brian Cashman’s focus on starting pitching, the Yankees are going to add at least two starters — maybe more– before pitchers and catchers report to spring training.

BULLPEN
Rafael Soriano
Dave Robertson
Joba Chamberlain
David Aardsma
Boone Logan
Clay Rapada
Cody Eppley

The bullpen is in better shape than any other piece of the roster. There’s a heavy assumption that Soriano is going to opt out, but there’s also a heavy assumption that Mariano Rivera is going to re-sign. Even with questions about Rivera’s age and injury recovery, the Yankees have significant late-inning depth considering the offseason is only a day old. The minor league system even provides additional depth with Chase Whitley and Juan Cedeno coming off strong Triple-A seasons, and Mark Montgomery rising fast from Double-A. There’s obviously some risk here — Rivera’s entering uncharted territory, safety net Soriano almost certainly will be gone, Aardsma and Chamberlain are wild cards at this point – but this is pretty good bullpen depth heading into the winter.

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97 Responses to “The roster as it is today”

  1. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Blake-

    I had read the Sherman off season recommendations of players the Yankees should consider.

    Beltran or Hunter?
    If it’s between the 2 Hunter only costs money although Sherman figures on 10M/year. I’m not sure after the year he just had he’d take that big a cut from 18M/year, but who knows.

    Pierzynski-Personally I’d rather the Yankees just outbid the Braves and entice David Ross to sign with them and let the Yankees go in tandem with Romine and Ross and spend the savings from not signing Martin Napoli Pierzynski on a corner OF bat.

    Keppinger-with Nunez that would be a good backup for the infield.

    Scott Hairston-non plus. Just get Reed Johnson another good contact hitter against righties and lefties like Keppinger, plus he can play all OF positions.

  2. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    YT-

    As I’m sure you know the 1st order of buisness is to secure our starting Pitching.

    All else equal I’d much rather have a Beltran than a Hunter.

    AJ P’s left-handed stick is a good fit for NYS.

    Keppinger is a good solid ballplayer. Would love to have him.

  3. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    Chad-

    Hope you and your family members are all OK.

    Not sold on the Yankees bullpen.

    Aardsma-Don’t know yet how well he might do
    Chamberlain let over 50% inherited runners to score
    Soriano- 5 homers allowed in the last 16 batters faced

  4. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2012 at 9:16 am

    MTU-

    Sherman states the Yankees should get both Beltran and Hunter. Beltran would cost the Yankees players-pitching?

  5. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2012 at 9:20 am

    Pierzynski is a lefty bat and looks by this hit chart, to be another pull hitter, plus he’ll want big bucks.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/p.....pierzynski

  6. blake October 30th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    I don know why the Cards would trade Beltran given the good deal they got on him and that they will compete again next year…..especially for what Sherman suggested….they don’t really need Joba and they have a 2B prospect in Kolten Wong that is better than Adams and just as close to the big leagues…..the Yanks should have just signed Beltran when they had the chance…I don’t see that one as realistic…..

    Hunter obviously makes some sense…..but that would mean they probably move on from Ichiro Id think

  7. Madrugador October 30th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    It takes two years after Tommy John surgery to recover ones form. I believe Chamberlain could have a big year next season and Aardsma could round into form in the second half. The starting rotation’s failures and overuse of the bullpen are the biggest threats to the bullpen.

    Both Dickerson and Mustelier had big seasons in triple A. No, the bigs are not triple A but if those guys don’t get a shot then might as well trade them.

  8. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    All I know is that it is going to be very interesting to see how the Yankees handle their OS needs.

    They have many options and several ways to approach it.

    If poster “Lost” is getting good intelligence than we can hope for some big news.

    If not then I’m afraid we’re in for a disappointing OS.

    Hoping for the former. Kind of expecting the latter.

    ;)

  9. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    Dog walk time.

    Be back.

  10. Chip October 30th, 2012 at 9:41 am

    Hope everyone made it through the storm ok.

    I also read the Sherman thing – I would take Hunter on the 2 year $20 M deal that he suggests.

    Skip AJ.

    I like Keppinger and Hairston but I think both will be looking for more playing time than the Yankees can offer. Especially Keppinger who was a starter this past season for Tampa. Unless the Yankees tell him that they’re going to make Alex a DH and let him play 3b every day, I don’t see any reason why he would sign here to be a utility player when some team (Philadelphia is my guess) would sign him to be an every day player.

    Saw that the Angels are looking to deal either Haren and/or Santana.

    How about this:

    Granderson for Haren
    Sign Hunter for 2yrs $20mil
    Sign Reed Johnson as 4th OF
    Trade Eduardo Nunez and Phil Hughes to KC for Alex Gordon
    sign either Soria or Madson to deals similar to the ones they signed Aardsma to (1 year deals with options and incentives.)
    Re-sign Kuroda
    re-sign Ichiro
    I would like to re-sign Martin but I think someone will offer him a lot more money, at this point I don’t know where to go behind the plate.

  11. Madrugador October 30th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    I too am not expecting an exciting offseason but that doesn’t mean I am not hopeful for the future. Since they won’t spend the money, I’d like to see the youngsters play. Enjoy the games, build for the future. Better that than watch another worn out player break down and disappoint yet again.

  12. blake October 30th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Chip,

    That plan has Hunter, Gardner, Gordon, Ichiro , and Reed Johnson…..

    That plan sounds good if they could talk Ichiro and Hunter into a platoon…..I doubt that would happen though

  13. blake October 30th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    I don think the Angels and Yanks would trade nice with each other either….

  14. 86w183 October 30th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Dunno how much $$$ Pierzinski would want, but if it’s similar to Martin’s demands he’s a better fit considering he would likely share C duties with a RH hitter.

    I’d much rather sign Upton and/or Melky than guys in their mid-upper 30′s for the OF.

  15. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    If another team want major league ready players in return what big young right handed bat could they get to play corner OF position, right handed to balance out the left power?

    Hughes/Nova-Pick one of starters

    Robertson/Phelps-Pick one

    Nunez

    Dickerson/Gardner/Mesa-Pick one.

    Can a Hughes, Robertson, Nunez, Gardner package land you a “major” big time bat?

    Who could you get with that package or combination of any of the above?

  16. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Chip-

    Just gamble that the Angels don’t pick up Haren’s option plus they don’t need an outfielder.

    Like your other choices.

    Blake-If the Angels won’t trade with the Yankees, I feel they will be all over Soriano and Kuroda.

  17. andrewmelillo October 30th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Lets stick to the farm an be patient

  18. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Did Soria’s option get picked up by the Royals?

  19. Chip October 30th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    Blake – sorry, I left out trade Gardner.

    Trader –

    Angels won’t have a surplus of OF if Hunter leaves and they let Morales go, at that point they can move Trumbo to DH where his glove won’t hurt them.

    I don’t want to have to sign Haren because he’s going to want more than the 1 year deal that he’s on right now.

  20. Tidrow October 30th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Pierzynski made less than Martin last year and is a better player. Would be upgrade at position in my opinion. Don’t understand why media makes it seem Martin is so hard to replace. Guy hit .211 with 21hr(only positive stat) but only 53rbi with a .311 obp. Since when is that considered irreplaceable?

  21. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Chip-

    Then you are looking at Dan Haren as an almost even money swap for Granderson as they both become FA’s after next season. What about Tim Lincecum then, if all the monies involved were evened out?

    I haven’t seen much of Haren this year. Due for a rebound?

  22. Madrugador October 30th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    I think it is Martin’s defense that is felt to be hard to replace. No one should be counting on his offense given that you have Tex, Cano and Arod in that line up.

    Yeah, I know, they can’t hit either.

  23. blake October 30th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Chip says:
    October 30, 2012 at 10:10 am
    Blake – sorry, I left out trade Gardner.

    If you trade Gardner and Granderson then who plays CF? Ichiro?

  24. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    ALL I hear around here is that the Yankees have gotta get “younger”, “more athletic”, and then some of you Same people turn around and advocate signing or trading for relics like Beltran, Hunter, and AJ Pierzynski, (sign a 35 yr old backstop?) NO WAY. With the GM Meetings coming up, Priority 1 should be dumping A-Rod to Miami, (eat whatever $$$ you gotta eat), and getting Buck back in the deal. Once that is completed, you can move on to San Diego\Headley and or Arizona\J Upton. Chips used for Headley\Upton would be Cano, Granderson, Nunez, (Headley deal), Nova, Hughes, and If Absolutely Necessary to complete a deal, Phelps. You can throw in a couple Bushers if necessary. Sure, the rotation is iffy with Pettitte and Kuroda being free agents, but Pettitte looks to be a pretty safe bet to return. It wouldn’t be the 1st time ST was used as a cattle call to audition SP’s, and Cashman could go ahead and continue his dumpster diving routine. You wanna get younger, more athletic, and hit that $189 Mill??? This is the way to do it. NOT signing and or trading for the dinosaurs that Sherman and his Parrots around here are currently promoting.

  25. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    I’d be happy if the Yanks outbid the Braves and enticed David Ross to sign with them, using Romine as backup, with another 3rd catcher from that terrible list of FA catchers signed to a AAA deal.

    As MTU said the Yankees will need to know if Kuroda is coming back as well as Pettitte before they can trade a starter for a bat.

  26. blake October 30th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    I wouldn’t trade Granderson for Haren unless I have a good replacement lined up for him…..if you can trade for Upton or Gordon or sign Hamilton and then trade Grandy then fine….but if you trade Grandy for pitching then don’t replace Granderson’s production then Id argue you’ve made the clubs weakness (offense) weaker

  27. blake October 30th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    AJ is much older than Martin and is coming off a year which is an outlier for his career….risk of overpaying there….Id rather have him than Martin for 2013…..but I don’t really wan either of them for more than a year

  28. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Gotta go.

    Hopefully, all of the LoHudders and their families are safe and dry.

    Please, when you are able, chime in aand let us know you are OK.

    Until later.

  29. austinmac October 30th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    I read that Haren’s velocity has declined. He may be in decline.

    Kuroda is the key. The rotation looks very weak without him. The Angels may be all over him. I hope he doesn’t yet want to return home or go to the Dodgers who seemed disinterested in him last year.

    I have wanted Beltran since the Randy Johnson signing days. He has wanted to come here, but Cashman has never had much interest that I have seen. I don’t see him now trading players for a guy they could have had for only money. Last year they should have signed him and traded Swisher, but that was far too foresighted.

    Twenty million for Hunter? I don’t see the Yankees doing that since it is a big 2014 bite.

    Pierzynski is likely better than Martin but older. He is also left handed but is rather hairy and big. Therefore, if he will sign for one year, he would be wanted by the team. Two years makes him iffy too.

  30. jacksquat October 30th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    Not that I wouldn’t improve it, but that lineup would actually have a fighting chance, if they improve the pitching they have now of course.

    Greinke Greinke Greinke. :)

  31. Tidrow October 30th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Team gets younger by ridding themselves of Chavez, Ibanez, Jones, Garcia and maybe Ichiro(wish he stays) and replacing them with minor league or low cost free agent talent. Adding Priezynski for 1 or 2 yr contract wouldn’t be bad move. Guy can still play and wouldn’t cost that much in my opinion. He made only 6mil last yr.

  32. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Where has Any publication anywhere, or Any Yankee source, indicated the Yanks are gonna chase Hamilton??? Ain’t happenin’ with the $189 Mill in mind. I would trade Grandy inna J Uton deal, and put Gardner in CF. FAR cheaper, and OF gets younger.

  33. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 30th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Hey all. I’m another one who’s not finding any humor in this storm, including David Letterman’s quip (on several fronts).

    I think when you’re close enough to the devastation, maybe it becomes a lot more real to you. We were lucky to be hit with nothing more than a lot of cleanup and a few downed trees. Other portions of the state were nowhere near as lucky. People still without power, people on the coast in a lot bigger trouble. I’m sure you’ve read that up and down the east coast people have lost their homes, and some their lives. The fire in queens is devastating. NYC is in a horrible mess, and I’m not sure what’s left to Atlantic City.

    Anyway, I’m going to attend to some cleanup. My heart and prayers go out to all those in trouble. And thanks to all lohudders who worried about other lohudders. There definitely are ties that bind.

  34. Madrugador October 30th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    I don’t understand the willingness to trade a 26 yo pitcher who won 18 games in 2010 and 16 games in 2012. Why is Hughes so often mentioned as trade bait? Nova I understand but Hughes? Right now, after CC’s elbow, he is the most proven starting pitcher the Yanks have.

  35. blake October 30th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    ” I would trade Grandy inna J Uton deal, and put Gardner in CF. FAR cheaper, and OF gets younger.”

    So would most people…..but then there is the whole problem of getting Arizona to do that

  36. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Sure, but Arizona shoots for a Championship on a yearly basis. This is also why I would include Cano in the mix.

  37. jacksquat October 30th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Madrugador October 30th, 2012 at 10:43 am
    I don’t understand the willingness to trade a 26 yo pitcher who won 18 games in 2010 and 16 games in 2012. Why is Hughes so often mentioned as trade bait? Nova I understand but Hughes? Right now, after CC’s elbow, he is the most proven starting pitcher the Yanks have.

    Because Hughes only has one year of control left (Nova has 4 years left), and his ERA+ in those years you cited was 103 and 99.

  38. blake October 30th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    I don’t understand the willingness to trade a 26 yo pitcher who won 18 games in 2010 and 16 games in 2012. Why is Hughes so often mentioned as trade bait? Nova I understand but Hughes? Right now, after CC’s elbow, he is the most proven starting pitcher the Yanks have.”

    I agree ….I want to sign him bu he is one of their better chips to offer and he’s almost a FA. I wouldn’t say no to a deal involving him IF it had a good and prime aged bat coming back and if they are able to add to their rotation . Right now he’s their 2nd best starter under contract……you have to have a plan to add more pitching if you consider dealin hughes

  39. blake October 30th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    I you plan on dealing hughes’s then at a minimum you have to have Kuroda and Andy back….and it would be better if you either plan to sign Greinke or have a deal for a Haren lined up…..or Colby Lewis or somebody…..they can’t even consider trading Hugjes IMO until they have some answers for the rotation in place

  40. jacksquat October 30th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Agreed of course, you can’t trade Hughes unless you make other pitching moves. I don’t think Nova or Phelps should be counted on as more than a #5 at this point either.

  41. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Sign this guy, sign that guy = $$$ vs the $189 Mill. Reality Check.

  42. jacksquat October 30th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 10:59 am
    Sign this guy, sign that guy = $$$ vs the $189 Mill. Reality Check.

    There are guys coming off as well, either this year or next.

  43. 86w183 October 30th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Right now with options picked up the Yanks are around $ 145 M in 2013 obligations so there’s still wiggle room depending on where they decide to go with youngsters.

  44. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Yea, 1 guy coming Off the books in 2014 will be Cano. It’s gonna take better than $20 Mill a yr to retain him. That kinda dough should be reserved for Team Leaders. Cano is NO Leader.

  45. 86w183 October 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    of course that doesn’t cover a lot of players

  46. Chip October 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    blake October 30th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Chip says:
    October 30, 2012 at 10:10 am
    Blake – sorry, I left out trade Gardner.

    If you trade Gardner and Granderson then who plays CF? Ichiro?
    —————

    Yes Ichiro.

    I’m not worried about Granderson’s 43 HR. I would trade that one dimensional game for someone who is a better all around offensive player.

  47. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Offensively, Cano\Granderson\Nunez have trade value. Pitching, Phelps\Nova\Hughes. I leave the Bushers trade value to you guys.

  48. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Trisha-

    Glad you’re safe and sound.

    I have Family in NJ. They are completey w/o power but are safe.

    When it’s all said and done Sandy will turn out to be the costliest natural disaster in US History.

    Couldn’t have come at worse time considering how weak our National
    Economy and balance sheet are.

    This will be remembered for a long time to come and will affect many people.

    It is good so many people heeded the warnings or the cost in lives would have been much greater.

  49. blake October 30th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    “Yes Ichiro.”

    He will be 39 an has never played CF full time…..I think he could probably do it but what if he gets hurt or doesn’t perform well enough to play everyday?

  50. Madrugador October 30th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    “Pitching is the key to the kingdom.” at least that is what Cashman says but that is clearly supported by SF winning two World Series titles in three years so there may be some truth to it. Pitching is not exciting. How many 1-0, 2-1, 3-2 games does anyone want to see in a season?
    Hughes will be a free agent after 2013. Good for him. I hope he wins 20 games next year for the Yankees and the Cy Young. I’d be happy to pay a 27 yo pitcher with those credentials a lot of money for a long time.

  51. Madrugador October 30th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Haren?! Santana?!
    FEH!

  52. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Granderson scored better than 100, and knocked in better than 100, to go with his 40+ HR’s. He is More than 1 dimensional. Based on what Cashman has said, he aint gonna just give Grandy away.

  53. blake October 30th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    He shouldn’t just give Granderson away….he has value both via trade and to the Yankees

  54. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    IMO the Yankees need to balance out their O with a combo of big boppers and table setters.

    Right now they have too many High-powered low BA types in the lineup.

    The team BA needs to rise.

    The O needs to be infused with more youth.

    The speed and fundamental game needs to be given a higher priority than at present.

    One thing I learned this season was that too much rest is the Kiss of Death for a team.

    ;)

  55. austinmac October 30th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    Ichiro never wanted to play center for the Mariners. He did play it a bit for the Yankees, but he cannot be the opening day center fielder.

    I must agree with Donny that all this talk about expensive players is very likely a waste of all our energy. Money could make this team better without depleting the farm. They just won’t do it.

  56. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    And the Yankees need to find a way to get “hungry” again.

    That probably means a shift towards more youth as well.

    Maybe this team is a little too IBM ?

    ;)

  57. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    I again remind you guys that IF your gonna stock the roster with youth\speed, etc, you also need a Mgr that will Use those tools. Girardi aint that guy. He’s basically Leland minus the wrinkles and the smokes.

  58. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Girardi should understand how to play small ball.

    He managed an NL team.

    If he refuses to use all avenues open to him then maybe he needs to go ?

    It should be about winning in whatever fashion it takes.

    ;)

  59. AAA October 30th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    He shouldn’t just give Granderson away….he has value both via trade and to the Yankees

    ===========================

    Probably more to the Yankees. 1 year of Granderson isn’t going to bring a great deal of young talent back. Especially after the disaster he was at the plate from early June forward.

  60. austinmac October 30th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    MTU,

    I agree with your assessment. For years, old folks like me would talk about BA only to be told it was ian unimportant stat. While their are other important stats to be sure, it is nice to have someone who can get a hit when needed or get on base even when a pitcher is throwing strikes.

    However, I don’t like slap hitters. Get me a guy who can hit .280+ with fifteen home run potential and hits balls to the gap. Gordon, on the Royals, would be a great fit.

  61. blake October 30th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    “Probably more to the Yankees. 1 year of Granderson isn’t going to bring a great deal of young talent back. Especially after the disaster he was at the plate from early June forward.”

    Maybe so….and if no good deal arises then they’ll keep him…..but I do think he could bring back a good prospect or 2 to the right team

  62. Gary October 30th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    The offense isn’t a complete mess

    __________________________________________________________________________

    Morning Gang

    Sorry Chad but it is, been in denial about this team long enough. You can’t live on Long Ball and hope to bring home a championship. These guys are imposters in the post season.

  63. blake October 30th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    “I again remind you guys that IF your gonna stock the roster with youth\speed, etc, you also need a Mgr that will Use those tools. Girardi aint that guy. He’s basically Leland minus the wrinkles and the smokes.”

    Girardi didn’t have anybody he could do any of that stuff with this year aside from maybe Jeter…..what he did in 2012 is pretty irrelevant because he didn’t have personnel to do anything besides see how many homers they could hit

  64. Mike Ri October 30th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports that the Dodgers are “open to the idea” of trading Andre Ethier this offseason.

    It’s certainly a surprise given that the Dodgers just inked Ethier to a five-year, $85 million extension during the season, but perhaps they’re already willing to concede that they overpaid him. Of course, other teams also know that Ethier is making too much money, so the Dodgers would likely have to eat a good chunk of the deal to get something done. A trade of the 30-year-old doesn’t seem particularly likely

  65. Madrugador October 30th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    I don’t want my whole team to be slap hitters but one or two would be good.

  66. Gary October 30th, 2012 at 11:54 am

    blake October 30th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    “Probably more to the Yankees. 1 year of Granderson isn’t going to bring a great deal of young talent back. Especially after the disaster he was at the plate from early June forward.”

    Maybe so….and if no good deal arises then they’ll keep him…..but I do think he could bring back a good prospect or 2 to the right team

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Hi Blake, I’ve said it for a long time now Granderson strikes out too much, hitting a dinger every third day or so and then dragging the bat back to the dugout much of the rest of time isn’t the player we need out there.

  67. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    I could see Granderson inna package to get J. Upton. Or maybe Cano and Granderson and we take back Hill and throw in some $$$.

  68. Chip October 30th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Fine, then let Ichiro go and use Gardner in CF with Gordon in LF and Hunter in RF, or keep Ichiro for RF over signing Hunter – I think both will be about the same in terms of salary and years.

  69. jacksquat October 30th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Gary October 30th, 2012 at 11:52 am
    The offense isn’t a complete mess

    __________________________________________________________________________

    Morning Gang

    Sorry Chad but it is, been in denial about this team long enough. You can’t live on Long Ball and hope to bring home a championship. These guys are imposters in the post season.

    There are only 4 power hitters in that lineup and only 1 of them could realistically be gotten rid of (Granderson).

    Not saying it’s a great lineup, but Swisher, Ibanez, Jones, Martin are not in it and they were definitely hero swing offenders.

  70. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    mac-

    I’ve been on Gordon for a while. I was just waiting to see if he could repeat his breakout season from the season before last.

    He did. He is an exellent target for the Yankees current and future needs.

    I think we match up well with the Royals. We might be able to do some horse trading with them.

    They need Pitching and we can use a bat, or two.

    Blake-

    I have no problem w shopping Granderson or almost anyone else for that matter.

    That said, he should not be just given away. He has considerable value.

  71. AAA October 30th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports that the Dodgers are “open to the idea” of trading Andre Ethier this offseason

    ==============================

    If I’m a GM, I’ll make a run at Swisher in free agency before I give a thought to trading for Ethier.

  72. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Girardi had Jeet, Ichiro, Gardner, (in the Playoffs), Nunez, and Nix off the bench to use for small-ball. STOP the baloney about him NOT having the players to utilize inna small-ball offensive game. That is pure BUNK.

  73. jacksquat October 30th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    Chip, you think Hunter and Ichiro will cost about the same? If so, no way man, Hunter will probably cost twice as much as Ichiro.

  74. blake October 30th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    “Hi Blake, I’ve said it for a long time now Granderson strikes out too much, hitting a dinger every third day or so and then dragging the bat back to the dugout much of the rest of time isn’t the player we need out there.”

    You mean you don’t think the big hairy monster offense is exciting? ;)

  75. blake October 30th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    “Girardi had Jeet, Ichiro, Gardner, (in the Playoffs), Nunez, and Nix off the bench to use for small-ball. STOP the baloney about him NOT having the players to utilize inna small-ball offensive game. That is pure BUNK.”

    You can’t steal first base…….and you can’t teach a bunch of old dogs new tricks in October…..they were who they were and it was the players that was the problem much more than Girardi

  76. blake October 30th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Arod for Ethier!

  77. AAA October 30th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    ’ve been on Gordon for a while. I was just waiting to see if he could repeat his breakout season from the season before last.

    He did. He is an exellent target for the Yankees current and future needs.

    ====================================

    Royals locked him up last off season to a pretty team friendly deal. What do the Yankees send KC? Doubt Hughes would be enough, especially so close to FA.

  78. blake October 30th, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    Gordon is locked up bu he still makes 10 million AAV and that’s a lot to KC….they could trade him and plug one of the best prospects in baseball (Wil Myers) in for the league minimum.

  79. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    The best kind of O is one that can hurt you in multiple ways.

    It’s diversified.

    That is not the current Yankee O.

    I’d like to see it become that again. The 98 team was the best recent example.

    It’s not as simple as just scoring a ton of Runs via the longball.

    If it was we would have one it all this year.

    And so would Toronto the year before.

    Take a look at the current Cards lineup as a good example of how to build it.

    Nice mix.

    ;)

  80. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    - BLAKE -
    I believe you Now hold the record for cliches in a LoHud post. Other than that, it would make a pretty good baloney sandwich.

  81. blake October 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    They are cliches because they are true

  82. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    Doesn’t have to be Hughes.

    Might could be Nova, or Phelps +

    It is imperative that we lock up AP and Kuroda 1st before we proceed with any plan to trade one of our young arms.

    Someone asked earlier what a package of Hughes, GGBG, Nunez, and D-Rob would get ?

    My answer :

    A lot. Just about anything you’d want.

    Of course it’s theoretical only because we would not trade those 4 together.

  83. blake October 30th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Gordon would indeed be a great fit….I don’t know if the Royals would deal well with the Yanks though and also don’t know if another club would offer more than the Yanks could

  84. AAA October 30th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Might could be Nova, or Phelps +

    ==========================

    Don’t see the Royals trading Gordon for bottom of the rotation starters. The + you speak of would have to be awfully impressive. You never know though. I’d think the Royals might be more inclined to trade Butler than Gordon. Either would be PRICEY though.

  85. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    And if Keppinger isn’t too expensive I’d love for the Yankees to get their hands on him.

    He is exactly the type of player we need.

    A high-contact, high BA, versatile, grinder. Heck of ballplayer.

    What an upgrade he would be from Nix.

    Gordon and Keppinger would be great steps in the right direction.

  86. blake October 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    And if Keppinger isn’t too expensive I’d love for the Yankees to get their hands on him.”

    Agree….either way they need a really solid utility infielder for 2013….Scutero would work as well

  87. DONNYBROOK October 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    As a GM, you gotta be working on several avenues simultaneously. You can Not put everything on Hold while chasing down Pettitte and Kuroda. You get the opportunity to acquire Headley and or J Upton, you better trade the Chuckers post haste.

  88. Madrugador October 30th, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    Time to venture out after the storm. Hope all are well.
    Have fun.

  89. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    AAA-

    IMO you are underestimating the value of both Nova and/or Phelps.

    Either is better than just about anyone on the Royals staff.

    If Nova irons out his command issues he’s a killer.

    Many teams would take that chance considering his age and stuff.

    The + ?

    We have all kinds of options.

    Just depends on what the Royals need.

    ;)

  90. blake October 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    The Royals need lots of pitching

  91. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    Blake-

    Or Prado.

    ;)

  92. AAA October 30th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Probably take Scutaro over Keppinger only because Scutaro can play short. Keppinger has not played SS since 2010 and only started 13 games there since 2008. Like both guys, but Scutaro helps more. Scutaro may want to play though, so Keppinger, who seems more at ease with the idea of being a utility guy may work OK.

  93. AAA October 30th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    IMO you are underestimating the value of both Nova and/or Phelps.

    Either is better than just about anyone on the Royals staff.

    ================================

    No, I don’t think I am. Bottom of the rotation guys is their upper limit. Just because they might, and it is might, be as good or better than what the Royals have doesn’t make them good. Lot of teams can offer that type of pitcher.

    Royals do need pitching, but they need GOOD pitching.

  94. blake October 30th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Scutero could probably play 4 or 5 games a week with the Yankees…..it wouldn’t be full time but its be darn close

  95. MTU October 30th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Nunez is your fill-in SS.

    Keppinger does not need to play short.

    ;)

  96. blake October 30th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    I don see the Braves dealing Prado….they will just have too many holes to fill…..right now they will either need two outfielders or 1 outfielder and a 3B depending on whether Prado is at 3B or LF…..if they deal Prado then suddenly they need a CF, a LF, and a 3B

  97. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 2nd, 2012 at 10:04 pm

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