Angels reportedly looking to deal Haren and Santana
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 31, 2012 
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Something to consider while we wait for Rafael Soriano to opt out…
The Angels are reportedly interested in trading both Dan Haren and Ervin Santana. Both have fairly expensive one-year options for next season, and that’s the reason the Angels are interested in getting rid of them. Picking up the options would mean paying more than they’re worth. Declining the options would mean losing players who still have value and getting nothing in return.
A trade would be good middle ground for the Angels.
Question is, would it be a good opportunity for the Yankees?
Clearly the Yankees need starting pitching, and both Haren and Santana have been good in the past (in the not so distant past, as a matter of fact). If the Angels are clearly looking to dump those contracts, then the prospect cost might not be especially high. Would the Yankees be better off with Haren or Santana under team control heading into next season?
Ken Rosenthal says it will be an “upset” if the Angels don’t trade at least one of them. Alden Gonzalez reports that there’s more of a market for Haren.
Can we have Trout instead ?
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You operate via a slide ruler, and I operate via General Principle. Swisher’s conduct and comments pertaining to ticket buyers, merit him Squat. NO offer.
Opportunity knocking via the Angels to dump A-Rod.
I’m not 100% sure either of these guys can succeed in the AL East. I’ve always been a fan of Dan Haren, he would be a nice addition, but not for that money. Just hope his option gets declined, or if the Angels would be willing to eat a couple of mill.
You operate via a slide ruler, and I operate via General Principle. Swisher’s conduct and comments pertaining to ticket buyers, merit him Squat. NO offer.
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Well thank god you’re not a GM, because they have to put narrative & personal grievances aside to employ the best strategy possible to build a winning team. No one is going to care about the symbolic not offering of a contract to Swisher when he signs for 5 years with Atlanta or where ever and the Yankees enjoy themselves a nice draft pick.
We’ll take both, if Trout comes with them.
If not Soriano I would at least float them Granderson for Haren. They can put him in a corner, move Trumbo to DH and roll with an OF of Wells, Trout and Granderson.
Or we can get really silly about it and propose a mega deal:
LAA get: Granderson and Alex
NYY get: Haren, Wells, Morales, Callaspo
Terrible trades
I fear the Angels are aiming to keep Greinke. Swoop in Cash Man!
Gotta go.
Have a great day everone.
Hopefully for those affected by Sandy, things will start soon to be a little brighter.
Do the Angels think they are re-signing Greinke? What are they hoping to get for Haren/Santana?
Not giving Swisher a qualifying offer would be really stupid and petty. I don’t want him back, but we don’t want to lose a draft pick to make a point.
Swish isn’t going to take a 1 year offer so it would be unbelievably dumb for the Yanks not to offer the qualifying and basically refuse a free draft pick. Then everybody will complain that there is no young talent to work with under the new budget…. gotta offer a good number of qualifying offers.
- Jerky -
Please keep me outta your prayers. I do Not want guilt by association being brought up come Judgement Day.
Must QO to Swisher, Soriano, Kuroda. The QO to Kuroda would mean a team looking to maybe take him from us has to give up a high pick for a one year deal.
The QO to Kuroda would mean a team looking to maybe take him from us has to give up a high pick for a one year deal.
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Yea it is a good blocking move for Kuroda.
Re: Kuroda
Block of not, we should resign him anyway. 1/13 works for me. He earned his 10M this year.
Haren had a terrible stretch in June-July but his last eight starts were very good (2.81 ERA).
Definitely prefer him to Santana.
Anyone know how much the buyouts are on Haren and Santana??? We could already be seeing fallout from that Horrendous Pujols contract.
I dont think the Yankees would trade for haren or santana. Haren would have been a good move 2 years ago when he was first traded, but why trade for him now just to pay him 15 million for 1 year? That would interfere with bringing back Kuroda/Pettitte.
Make a strong offer to Kuroda for a one year deal, pass on both Haren and Santana, get Nova straightened out and yankees are way ahead.
The Yanks don’t need Haren…..as soon as Cashman finishes new deals with Jonesy and Freddy then he can turn his attention to the real pressing issue of finding a new LOOGY
Hughes was basically Haren this year so I don’t see any point in that unless the Angels were going to eat a big chunk of the 15 mil.
Haren buyout = $3.5M
Santana buyout = an even $1M
I don’t think the Angels trying to move Santana or Haren is directly related to the Pujols contract. The Angels can take on big money and I’m pretty sure have a new tv deal that is going to be huge for them. I just think they can get rid of Santana/Haren before they totally suck and leave for nothing after free agency.
Don’t think the Yanks need either. If they have a hole in the rotation with Kuroda or Pettite not coming back, I’d rather just sign a FA and hope it works out rather than giving up any prospects for those two.
If the Angels aren’t keeping Torii Hunter then a Granderson/Harern trade might work for both teams with Curtis moving to LF and Vernon Wells to RF.
They are a little RH heavy with their lineup/power… top three HR hitters all RH.
Haren $ 15.5 M / $ 3.5 M buyout….. Santana $ 13 M / $ 1 M buyout
The Angels are basically looking to pay for prospects by paying for part of these deals and getting prospects in return for their depleted system.
I would be interested in Haren if it involved dumping A-Rod. There is an opportunity here, as Moreno appears to be inna position where he Must deal.
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Thanks for the buyout info.
I like Haren (though he isn’t what he was 3-4 years ago) but I wouldn’t want him for $15 million….
If the Angels are looking for prospects for Haren. .. the Yanks have to look into it !.
Haren is a good YOUNG pitcher. ( Pettite ( love him ) is another year older and who knows if Kuroda can repeat what he did last season ) …..
The Angels simply want to use the 3.5 buyout for Haren to acquire prospects instead of just paying the buyout, Haren walking and getting nothing. They aren’t in any “position”. Both Haren and Santana will simply have their buyout options exercised if no deals are made.
If I could do Haren for Granderson or Haren/Wells/Callaspo for A-Rod I’d do it.
Gotta run… great day all
I would be interested in Haren if it involved dumping A-Rod.There is an opportunity here, as Moreno appears to be inna position where he Must deal.
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Maybe so, but not sure of any “must deal” scenario that involves dumping a 1 year $15M contract in exchange for a 5 year $120M contract.
@mlbtraderumors: Orioles Decline Option For Mark Reynolds http://t.co/An0isnak #mlb
@mlbtraderumors: Indians Exercise Jimenez’s Option, Decline Hafner’s & Hernandez’s http://t.co/IK1VTQUx #mlb
You check out Haren’s numbers, and they are Generally close to what Hughes posted.
Moreno inna pickle. Time to talk A-Rod is NOW.
More bodies involved than just an A-Rod\Haren straight up. This is why I mentioned Wells.
Moreno isn’t trying to get out from under a 15 million obligation to take on a 100 million obligation.
Mark Reynolds option was declined but the Orioles still have control of him, so its just a money saving move.
Moreno inna pickle. Time to talk A-Rod is NOW.
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Makes. No. Sense.
If he were pickled, Moreno might talk Arod. If he’s in a pickle, Arod’s the last thing he’s considering.
Cc,nova,pettite,phelps an hughes is good an young an capable to win as long as hitting gets fix get rid of Kevin Long
Hughes is not the model of consistency. Nova is a question mark after last season and Phelps is still unknown. Too much risk there for me.
Hughes is not the model of consistency. Nova is a question mark after last season and Phelps is still unknown. Too much risk there for me.
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Exactly !
Moreno is not in a pickle, not even a gerkin.
A’s have released Dallas Braden.
Yankees should sign and invite him to ST 2013 if only to allow
ARod to give the guy a beating for his actions against ARod back in Oakland
*gherkin
Fire up the “GET OFF MY MOUND” t-shirt sales.
This is attempting to create a market demand fueled mainly by supposed Red Sox and Yankee interest/perceived need.
How many wiñs does nova have in the last two years hughes looks back did good in playoff ,phelps sent down brought back up starter reliever an in any roll he did a good job what they did to phelps is how they screwed up chamberlaiñ an hughes
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Soriano has opted out of his yankees deal.
2/25 gets it done or is he a goner?
@JonHeymanCBS: Soriano has opted out of his yankees deal.
@eboland11: Yankees will donate $500,000 to the American Red Cross to support the relief efforts in the Tri-State area associated with Hurricane Sandy.