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Angels reportedly looking to deal Haren and Santana

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 31, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Something to consider while we wait for Rafael Soriano to opt out…

The Angels are reportedly interested in trading both Dan Haren and Ervin Santana. Both have fairly expensive one-year options for next season, and that’s the reason the Angels are interested in getting rid of them. Picking up the options would mean paying more than they’re worth. Declining the options would mean losing players who still have value and getting nothing in return.

A trade would be good middle ground for the Angels.

Question is, would it be a good opportunity for the Yankees?

Clearly the Yankees need starting pitching, and both Haren and Santana have been good in the past (in the not so distant past, as a matter of fact). If the Angels are clearly looking to dump those contracts, then the prospect cost might not be especially high. Would the Yankees be better off with Haren or Santana under team control heading into next season?

Ken Rosenthal says it will be an “upset” if the Angels don’t trade at least one of them. Alden Gonzalez reports that there’s more of a market for Haren.

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90 Responses to “Angels reportedly looking to deal Haren and Santana”

  1. blake October 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Can we have Trout instead ?

  2. DONNYBROOK October 31st, 2012 at 11:56 am

    - Jerky -
    You operate via a slide ruler, and I operate via General Principle. Swisher’s conduct and comments pertaining to ticket buyers, merit him Squat. NO offer.
    Opportunity knocking via the Angels to dump A-Rod.

  3. yankfan1 October 31st, 2012 at 11:56 am

    I’m not 100% sure either of these guys can succeed in the AL East. I’ve always been a fan of Dan Haren, he would be a nice addition, but not for that money. Just hope his option gets declined, or if the Angels would be willing to eat a couple of mill.

  4. Jerkface October 31st, 2012 at 11:57 am

    You operate via a slide ruler, and I operate via General Principle. Swisher’s conduct and comments pertaining to ticket buyers, merit him Squat. NO offer.

    Well thank god you’re not a GM, because they have to put narrative & personal grievances aside to employ the best strategy possible to build a winning team. No one is going to care about the symbolic not offering of a contract to Swisher when he signs for 5 years with Atlanta or where ever and the Yankees enjoy themselves a nice draft pick.

  5. jacksquat October 31st, 2012 at 11:58 am

    We’ll take both, if Trout comes with them. :)

  6. Chip October 31st, 2012 at 11:58 am

    If not Soriano I would at least float them Granderson for Haren. They can put him in a corner, move Trumbo to DH and roll with an OF of Wells, Trout and Granderson.

    Or we can get really silly about it and propose a mega deal:

    LAA get: Granderson and Alex
    NYY get: Haren, Wells, Morales, Callaspo

  7. Jerkface October 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Terrible trades

  8. jacksquat October 31st, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    I fear the Angels are aiming to keep Greinke. Swoop in Cash Man!

  9. Yankee Trader October 31st, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Gotta go.

    Have a great day everone.

    Hopefully for those affected by Sandy, things will start soon to be a little brighter.

  10. blake October 31st, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    Do the Angels think they are re-signing Greinke? What are they hoping to get for Haren/Santana?

  11. Locke October 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Not giving Swisher a qualifying offer would be really stupid and petty. I don’t want him back, but we don’t want to lose a draft pick to make a point.

  12. Tyler October 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Swish isn’t going to take a 1 year offer so it would be unbelievably dumb for the Yanks not to offer the qualifying and basically refuse a free draft pick. Then everybody will complain that there is no young talent to work with under the new budget…. gotta offer a good number of qualifying offers.

  13. DONNYBROOK October 31st, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    - Jerky -
    Please keep me outta your prayers. I do Not want guilt by association being brought up come Judgement Day.

  14. jacksquat October 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    Must QO to Swisher, Soriano, Kuroda. The QO to Kuroda would mean a team looking to maybe take him from us has to give up a high pick for a one year deal.

  15. Jerkface October 31st, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    The QO to Kuroda would mean a team looking to maybe take him from us has to give up a high pick for a one year deal.

    Yea it is a good blocking move for Kuroda.

  16. ac1 October 31st, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Re: Kuroda
    Block of not, we should resign him anyway. 1/13 works for me. He earned his 10M this year.

  17. 86w183 October 31st, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Haren had a terrible stretch in June-July but his last eight starts were very good (2.81 ERA).

    Definitely prefer him to Santana.

  18. DONNYBROOK October 31st, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Anyone know how much the buyouts are on Haren and Santana??? We could already be seeing fallout from that Horrendous Pujols contract.

  19. Jerkface October 31st, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    I dont think the Yankees would trade for haren or santana. Haren would have been a good move 2 years ago when he was first traded, but why trade for him now just to pay him 15 million for 1 year? That would interfere with bringing back Kuroda/Pettitte.

  20. longtimefan October 31st, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    Make a strong offer to Kuroda for a one year deal, pass on both Haren and Santana, get Nova straightened out and yankees are way ahead.

  21. blake October 31st, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    The Yanks don’t need Haren…..as soon as Cashman finishes new deals with Jonesy and Freddy then he can turn his attention to the real pressing issue of finding a new LOOGY

  22. jacksquat October 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Hughes was basically Haren this year so I don’t see any point in that unless the Angels were going to eat a big chunk of the 15 mil.

  23. AAA October 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Haren buyout = $3.5M
    Santana buyout = an even $1M

  24. Tyler October 31st, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    I don’t think the Angels trying to move Santana or Haren is directly related to the Pujols contract. The Angels can take on big money and I’m pretty sure have a new tv deal that is going to be huge for them. I just think they can get rid of Santana/Haren before they totally suck and leave for nothing after free agency.

    Don’t think the Yanks need either. If they have a hole in the rotation with Kuroda or Pettite not coming back, I’d rather just sign a FA and hope it works out rather than giving up any prospects for those two.

  25. 86w183 October 31st, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    If the Angels aren’t keeping Torii Hunter then a Granderson/Harern trade might work for both teams with Curtis moving to LF and Vernon Wells to RF.

    They are a little RH heavy with their lineup/power… top three HR hitters all RH.

    Haren $ 15.5 M / $ 3.5 M buyout….. Santana $ 13 M / $ 1 M buyout

  26. jacksquat October 31st, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    The Angels are basically looking to pay for prospects by paying for part of these deals and getting prospects in return for their depleted system.

  27. DONNYBROOK October 31st, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    I would be interested in Haren if it involved dumping A-Rod. There is an opportunity here, as Moreno appears to be inna position where he Must deal.

  28. DONNYBROOK October 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    - AAA –
    Thanks for the buyout info.

  29. Tyler October 31st, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    I like Haren (though he isn’t what he was 3-4 years ago) but I wouldn’t want him for $15 million….

  30. Mike Ri October 31st, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    If the Angels are looking for prospects for Haren. .. the Yanks have to look into it !.

    Haren is a good YOUNG pitcher. ( Pettite ( love him ) is another year older and who knows if Kuroda can repeat what he did last season ) …..

  31. jacksquat October 31st, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    The Angels simply want to use the 3.5 buyout for Haren to acquire prospects instead of just paying the buyout, Haren walking and getting nothing. They aren’t in any “position”. Both Haren and Santana will simply have their buyout options exercised if no deals are made.

  32. 86w183 October 31st, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    If I could do Haren for Granderson or Haren/Wells/Callaspo for A-Rod I’d do it.

    Gotta run… great day all

  33. AAA October 31st, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    I would be interested in Haren if it involved dumping A-Rod.There is an opportunity here, as Moreno appears to be inna position where he Must deal.

    =================================

    Maybe so, but not sure of any “must deal” scenario that involves dumping a 1 year $15M contract in exchange for a 5 year $120M contract.

  34. blake October 31st, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    @mlbtraderumors: Orioles Decline Option For Mark Reynolds http://t.co/An0isnak #mlb

  35. blake October 31st, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    @mlbtraderumors: Indians Exercise Jimenez’s Option, Decline Hafner’s & Hernandez’s http://t.co/IK1VTQUx #mlb

  36. DONNYBROOK October 31st, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    You check out Haren’s numbers, and they are Generally close to what Hughes posted.
    Moreno inna pickle. Time to talk A-Rod is NOW.

  37. DONNYBROOK October 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    More bodies involved than just an A-Rod\Haren straight up. This is why I mentioned Wells.

  38. Jerkface October 31st, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Moreno isn’t trying to get out from under a 15 million obligation to take on a 100 million obligation.

    Mark Reynolds option was declined but the Orioles still have control of him, so its just a money saving move.

  39. AAA October 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Moreno inna pickle. Time to talk A-Rod is NOW.

    =========================

    Makes. No. Sense.

    If he were pickled, Moreno might talk Arod. If he’s in a pickle, Arod’s the last thing he’s considering.

  40. andrewmelillo October 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Cc,nova,pettite,phelps an hughes is good an young an capable to win as long as hitting gets fix get rid of Kevin Long

  41. Run it Out October 31st, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Hughes is not the model of consistency. Nova is a question mark after last season and Phelps is still unknown. Too much risk there for me.

  42. Mike Ri October 31st, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Hughes is not the model of consistency. Nova is a question mark after last season and Phelps is still unknown. Too much risk there for me.

    ———-
    Exactly !

  43. jacksquat October 31st, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Moreno is not in a pickle, not even a gerkin.

  44. Warning Track Power October 31st, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    A’s have released Dallas Braden.
    Yankees should sign and invite him to ST 2013 if only to allow
    ARod to give the guy a beating for his actions against ARod back in Oakland

  45. jacksquat October 31st, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    *gherkin

  46. Run it Out October 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm

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  47. vrsce October 31st, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    This is attempting to create a market demand fueled mainly by supposed Red Sox and Yankee interest/perceived need.

  48. andrewmelillo October 31st, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    How many wiñs does nova have in the last two years hughes looks back did good in playoff ,phelps sent down brought back up starter reliever an in any roll he did a good job what they did to phelps is how they screwed up chamberlaiñ an hughes

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    @mlbtraderumors: Royals Decline Option For Joakim Soria http://t.co/0TuoFRzb #mlb

  50. kd October 31st, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS

    Soriano has opted out of his yankees deal.

    2/25 gets it done or is he a goner?

  51. blake October 31st, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: Soriano has opted out of his yankees deal.

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