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Yankees planning to give Cabral a second look

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 02, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here’s a name you probably haven’t heard in a while.

Rule 5 pick Cesar Cabral is still on the Yankees roster, and he’s likely to stay there for a while. Although the Yankees have returned Brad Meyers to the Nationals, the team is going to give Cabral another chance to win a spot in the bullpen.

Brian Cashman said the Yankees are planning to keep Cabral throughout the winter and bring him back to spring training under basically the same set of Rule 5 limitations. Cabral would once again have to break camp on the big league roster, but this time he wouldn’t have to stay all year. He could be optioned at some point later in the season. First things first, he’d have to make the team, which he almost did this spring.

Back in March, Cabral was making a strong case with 12 strikeouts and two walks while jockeying with Clay Rapada for a job as the Yankees second lefty. Rapada won the job without a fight after Cabral suffered a stress fracture in the tip of his elbow.

“It’s frustrating because he had a really good camp for us,” Joe Girardi said the day the Yankees got the diagnosis. “I can’t tell you what was going to happen, but he had a good camp for us.”

The Yankees are going to give Cabral another look and another chance.

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168 Responses to “Yankees planning to give Cabral a second look”

  1. Chip November 2nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Good – makes more sense than just bringing back Rapada.

  2. Chip November 2nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    austinmac November 2nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    Yep, the Yankees can look through the 38 year old crowd effectively. Great long term plan.
    ——————

    The problem is that if you sign guys like Hamilton, Granderson, Swisher and Cano to long term contracts then you’re going to wind up paying them for what they’ve done rather than for what they will do.

  3. RadioKev November 2nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    I mean, why not? Never hurts to have some competition. However, Rapada was pretty darned good last year.

  4. AAA November 2nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    The problem is that if you sign guys like Hamilton, Granderson, Swisher and Cano to long term contracts then you’re going to wind up paying them for what they’ve done rather than for what they will do.

    ==================================

    That is a problem, which is why Cano will likely be to only guy in that group to whom the Yankees will offer a long term deal.

  5. Chip November 2nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Oh, and I think Big Papi winds up with Texas (addition to my list from the last thread)

  6. Chip November 2nd, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    AAA November 2nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    The problem is that if you sign guys like Hamilton, Granderson, Swisher and Cano to long term contracts then you’re going to wind up paying them for what they’ve done rather than for what they will do.

    ==================================

    That is a problem, which is why Cano will likely be to only guy in that group to whom the Yankees will offer a long term deal.
    ————-

    Right, the team is old and inflexible and so people’s solution is to sign more over 30 players to long term contracts? That seems counter intuitive
    .

  7. AAA November 2nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Oh, and I think Big Papi winds up with Texas

    ===================

    I’d be stunned if he didn’t stay in Boston.

  8. tucker November 2nd, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    You have to think at some point that teams will no longer offer 10-year deals to players when they hit free agency. Yanks probably did it right w/Cano by buying out his first two years of free agency. The Pujols deal is going to end badly for the Angels. The Mauer deal does not look good for the Twins, etc.

    I really don’t think the Yanks should give Cano an 8-year deal. Try to get him for 6-7 years, if he balks during negotiations, trade him this winter and sign Hamilton to 4-5 years.

  9. Jerkface November 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Rapada was very good against lefties and should continue to do so, but seeing if Cabral can be an option is definitely worth it. He has better stuff.

    Both Rapada & Cabral are under team control so nothing has to be done until spring training.

  10. Chip November 2nd, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Brein Taylor to be sentenced next week for trying to sell 20 pounds of crack. He faces 5 to 40 years.

  11. Chip November 2nd, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Cabral could be more an alternative to Logan than Rapada.

  12. Jerkface November 2nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Cabral could be more an alternative to Logan than Rapada.

    Yea I’d trade Logan if it got something in return.

  13. tucker November 2nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    Logan is nearing the point where his salary has surpassed his production.

  14. Chip November 2nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    Repost:
    here are some FA predictions sure to go wrong:

    Greinke – Angels
    Hamilton – Boston
    Ichiro – Yankees
    Hunter – Yankees
    Kuroda – Yankees
    Andy – Yankees
    Soriano – Tigers
    Youk – Cleveland
    Keppinger – Philadelphia
    Rivera – Retired
    Ibanez – Tampa
    Chavez – Retired
    Carlos Pena – Yankees
    Mark Reynolds – Boston
    James Loney – Baltimore
    Nick Swisher – Seattle
    Angel Pagan – Texas
    Melky Cabrera – Houston
    Cody Ross – Boston
    Shane Victorino – San Francisco
    Russ Martin – Pittsburgh
    Mike Napoli – Houston
    Lance Berkman – St. Louis
    Kelly Shoppach – Yankees
    Stephen Drew – Boston
    Michael Bourn – Texas
    BJ Upton – Washington
    Edwin Jackson – Toronto
    Grady Sizemore – Yankees (minor league deal)
    addition: David Ortiz – Texas

  15. Chip November 2nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Here’s how I could see the Yankee lineup shaking out:

    Jeter
    Ichiro – LF
    Hunter – RF
    Cano
    Tex
    Alex – 3b
    Carlos Pena – DH
    Austin Romine
    Curtis Granderson – CF

    Gardner on the bench.

  16. austinmac November 2nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    I don’t think Cano or Granderson should be signed at all costs and terms. Find out if they are singable and, if not, trade them. I cannot see them signing either since Cano will want 8 years, at least, and Grandrson will want 4-5 years.

    I would see what Hamilton could be had for as an offensive replacement.

    I don’t expect any long term acquisitions or signings.

  17. Madrugador November 2nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    If you want to have a long MLB career, become a left handed relief pitcher. I hope Cabral, at 23yo and 6’3″ 250 lbs has a long and successful career as a Yankee reliever.

  18. Chip November 2nd, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    austinmac November 2nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    I don’t expect any long term acquisitions or signings.
    —————–

    acquisitions – maybe
    signings – no and I have no problem with that. The guys who are getting to free agency right now are either old, highly flawed or both. For example, Josh Hamilton is very talented but he’s also 31 has a scary injury history and a questionable makeup and he’s going to get the most money out of any free agent on the market.

    In fact, if you look at total package in terms of baseball ability, age, health and makeup – it’s entirely possible that Nick Swisher is the best free agent on the market.

  19. austinmac November 2nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Chip,

    I hope you are wrong on Pena. They don’t need another guy who Ks every third plate appearance.

  20. AAA November 2nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    I hope you are wrong on Pena. They don’t need another guy who Ks every third plate appearance

    ===============================

    Be like having another Granderson minus 30 batting average points.

  21. DONNYBROOK November 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    - CHIP -
    Ichiro And Torii Hunter on the Yanks? NOPE

  22. ron November 2nd, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    The cardinals were not affraid to trade pujols,at the right time.
    Once a player gives you 8 years,or so,it is time to move on,and not pay them for what they have done.
    Don’t be so affraid to tradfe cano,unless we can get him on our terms,not his or his agents.
    Boras,and cano are going to wan’t the moon.
    Cano,and boras feel cano has been underpaid for years.
    Anything over 6 year,and i trade him for 3 prosopects.
    Give me one top pitcher,and one,or two position players,and i am ok with it.

    4 years of hamilton is a safe bet.
    Melky is wounded,and we should pounce.

    Trade cano,and granderson,then sign hamilton,and melky.
    Then trade arod,and see if texas want’s cano for their stud 3b,and play him at 3b every game.
    Maybe granderson get’s us a 2b.

  23. Tyler November 2nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Chip November 2nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    Here’s how I could see the Yankee lineup shaking out:

    Jeter
    Ichiro – LF
    Hunter – RF
    Cano
    Tex
    Alex – 3b
    Carlos Pena – DH
    Austin Romine
    Curtis Granderson – CF

    Gardner on the bench.
    ————————————————-

    I would be legitimately upset if this is the lineup.

  24. DONNYBROOK November 2nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Why would the Yanks shell out the coin for Ichiro and Hunter, and then plant Gardner on the pine???

  25. Against All Odds November 2nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    ron November 2nd, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    The cardinals were not affraid to trade pujols,at the right time.
    Once a player gives you 8 years,or so,it is time to move on,and not pay them for what they have done.
    Don’t be so affraid to tradfe cano,unless we can get him on our terms,not his or his agents.
    Boras,and cano are going to wan’t the moon.
    Cano,and boras feel cano has been underpaid for years.
    Anything over 6 year,and i trade him for 3 prosopects.
    Give me one top pitcher,and one,or two position players,and i am ok with it.

    4 years of hamilton is a safe bet.
    Melky is wounded,and we should pounce.

    Trade cano,and granderson,then sign hamilton,and melky.
    Then trade arod,and see if texas want’s cano for their stud 3b,and play him at 3b every game.
    Maybe granderson get’s us a 2b.

    ———————

    It’s a lot of moving parts. I could see Granderson being traded eventually.

  26. Irreverent Discourse November 2nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Why would you pay both Ichiro AND Hunter? Makes no sense.

    Oh right, getting Hunter makes no sense in the first place!

  27. blake November 2nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    “Why would you pay both Ichiro AND Hunter? Makes no sense.”

    If they would agree to a RF platoon then it would make a lot of sense…..but given that thats highly unlikely then it doesn’t make much sense. I don’t think ichiro or Hunter either one are going to sign on to be a 4th outfielder….

  28. austinmac November 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    Ron, I would hire you and adopt your plan were I in power.

  29. yankfan1 November 2nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    I prefer Cabral over Logan, but that wont happen. Rapada is great in his role.

    I prefer hunter over Ichiro. I think Ichiro would do a great job, but Gardner can certainly play near his level. I want some power on the corners. Upton and hunter would be a dream for me. I like Gordon, but have a feeling he wont perform well under pressure, I think he’ll be a bust with the Yanks. I would certainly take the risk at the right price. I just dont want Grandy in that lineup next year. Yanks should also take a look at Gomes, Keppinger, and Scott Hariston… guys that kill lefties. In regards to the C situation, give the job to Romine and a veteran catcher. Save the money from Russel and use it somewhere else.

  30. austinmac November 2nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    I think Ichiro would return as a 4th outfielder. I don’t see he will have much of a market on good teams. With his low walk rate, limited power and lessned arm and defense, he has to hit well above .300 to be such a starter on a competitive team.

    I am fearful he will return as a starter in place of Swisher because he will play for $5M I bet. Add a scrub that hits from the right side and they have an outfield.

  31. Tyler November 2nd, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    I wouldn’t be as opposed to bringing Ichiro back as some on here. His defense and arm are still more than adequate and I think he can still hit close to .300 over the entire year. 81 games at YS could see him hit 10 + homers which isn’t bad at all.

  32. austinmac November 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    I am not at all opposed to bringing Ichiro back but not as a 150 game players. He could play 100-120 filling in the the other outfielders while they sit or DH.I also agree his defense is average or above, at least in the corners.

  33. DONNYBROOK November 2nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    I like the suggestion of taking a flyer on Sizemore as the 4th OF’er. RF should be filled via a J Upton deal.

  34. DaSaint007 November 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Logan, Rapada and Cabral are good options for ST. Logan is a known quantity, and has steadily improved during his stint with the Yankees. Rapada had a good season, but a little competition never hurts.

    I’d sign Ichiro in a heartbeat. This team needs speed to generate some runs, particularly if the big boppers aren’t bopping. If Granderson would get on base more he could run more. Add Gardner, Ichiro and Jeter to that mix, and we’d have some movement on the basepaths.

    I don’t think that Swisher will accept a QO, but it will be telling to see if he’s not offered one.

  35. joeman November 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    if they are going to keep Granderson I’m on to him moving to a OF corner…..also like to see them sign A Pagan to play CF..

  36. joeman November 2nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    DONNYBROOK November 2nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    Why would the Yanks shell out the coin for Ichiro and Hunter, and then plant Gardner on the pine
    —————————
    because he’s a AAA player

  37. Jerkface November 2nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Logan is a known quantity, and has steadily improved during his stint with the Yankees.

    Eh, his best LOOGY year was his first. He has actually steadily unimproved

  38. joeman November 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    a Ichiro ..Pagan..Granderson OF would be nice to look at..

  39. FreeAgentSignee November 3rd, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Good choice Yankees!
    Go Cesar!

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