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Week in Review: Offseason gets underway

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 04, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

This was the first week of baseball’s offseason. The Giants wrapped up a World Series sweep last Sunday, and winter started on Monday. Of course, as always, developments have been slow at this point. A lot of formalities and predictable decision making.

Most important of those early decisions: Mariano Rivera’s decision to return for one more season.

It was a late development this week, with Rivera telling Brian Cashman on Friday that he’d like to pitch next year. Previously this winter, Rivera had indicated that he was considering retirement, but Rivera has now made it clear that he’ll be back, and that helps clarify the Yankees late-inning situation.

A few more highlights from the past week:

• Friday was the deadline to make qualifying offers to free agents, and the Yankees made three of them. Rafael Soriano and Nick Swisher are expected to decline, but there’s a chance Hiroki Kuroda could accept his one-year, $13.3-million offer within the next week. If he does, it would likely be the Yankees first major signing of the offseason.

• Of course, before Soriano could get a qualifying offer, he had to opt out of his current deal. He did that on Wednesday, bringing a quiet end to his two-years with the Yankees. On Monday, Swisher, Kuroda, Ichiro Suzuki, Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera, Russell Martin, Eric Chavez, Raul Ibanez, Freddy Garcia, Derek Lowe, Pedro Feliciano and Andruw Jones all became free agents.

• The Yankees picked up their options for Curtis Granderson, Robinson Cano and David Aardsma.

• Cano and Mark Teixeira won Gold Glove awards. It was Teixiera’s fifth and Cano’s second.

• Brian Cashman confirmed plans to keep Rule 5 pick Cesar Cabral on the roster and give him another chance to make the team next spring. Cabral’s elbow injury opened a spot for Clay Rapada this year.

• Third baseman Casey McGehee and Rule 5 pick Brad Meyers were both taken off the roster and out of the organization this week.

• There was a report that the Yankees are considering shifting Brett Gardner to center field and Granderson to left field next season.

• The Yankees continued their pitching development shakeup by hiring Gil Patterson as their minor league pitching coordinator and reassigning Nardi Contreras within the organization.

• Former Yankees owner Jacob Ruppert is among the candidates on the Pre-Integration Era Hall of Fame ballot. Voting results will be announced at the Winter Meetings next month.

• Former Yankees pitcher Pascual Perez was killed during an apparent home robbery.

• As the East Coast recovered from this week’s storm, the Yankees donated $500,000 and sponsored a blood drive. Major League Baseball and the Players Association pledged $1 million to help with relief.

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83 Responses to “Week in Review: Offseason gets underway”

  1. RadioKev November 4th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Good morning folks.

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN
    This seems really incredible: Within two months, Zack Greinke is all but assured of being the highest-paid right-hander in MLB history.

    Ugh… that’s crazy.

  2. RadioKev November 4th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Also by the sounds of the reviews last night, we may have a new Monty in NYC next season :)

  3. jacksquat November 4th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    The top 10 picks are protected, but those teams still lose a pick. I don’t know if it is next highest and can be a lottery pick or compensatory pick (although not this year since none of the top 10 teams/picks will get a compensatory round pick), or if it would be a 2nd round pick, but they do lose a pick.

  4. The Return of Stoneburner November 4th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    @gustavosantiago Late next season/ Early 2014
    View conversation

    11h Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    @gustavosantiago Montgomery is an elite relief prospect. Of course nothing’s guaranteed but he has immense talent and upside.
    View conversation

    11h Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    Guy has a great bat. RT @D_RoyJenkins629 first time I see David Adams he hits a two run double in the AFL rising stars game.

  5. 86w183 November 4th, 2012 at 9:20 am

    Teams in the first ten slots lose their second round pick if they sign a FA that received a qualifying offer.

    The Yanks could actually move up in the draft if any team drafting 11-26 signs a FA that received a qualifying offer. Those picks are simply vacated now instead of being assigned to the team that loses a player. Those teams now line up for a single compensation pick after round one and the six “competitive balance” selections.

    Please don’t ask me to explain how the hell they define “competitive Balance” selections.

  6. Yankee Trader November 4th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Jack-

    We discussed this yeasterday. It’s interesting that teams selected by lottery
    have some options. They can keep the pick and accrue talent during next year’s Draft. Or they can include them in trades, either leading up to the July 31 Trade Deadline or at any point during the regular season before next year’s Draft.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  7. Yankee Trader November 4th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    86w183-

    From the above attachment on lottery:

    The original 13 teams entered into the lottery were a combination of the 10 lowest revenue clubs and 10 lowest market teams. The Tigers were added to Round B because they were the lone team not in the original group that receives revenue sharing money.

    This was based on their 2012 year.

  8. Duh Innings II November 4th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    MLB and PA are cheapskates along with the Cheapees.

    A mil each when they rake in billions each pssshhhh!!!!!!!!

    Props to Dwyane Wade for donating his first game’s paycheck (about $210K as he makes $17.2M this season by 82 games.)

  9. Yankee Trader November 4th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Who would make the most FA sense to bring in as RF’er next year, if Gardner and Granderson are the CF/LF’ers?

    Cabrera
    Ross
    BJ Upton
    Pagan
    Victorino
    Hunter
    Ichiro
    Any others not named Hamilton?

  10. Yankee Trader November 4th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    Here’s an article on the Full Monty[Mark Montgomery]:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....ery-78697/

  11. yankee21 November 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am

    yt,

    Among that list I’d choose Melky as first choice and have a team option for a 2nd year,
    second choice would be Ichiro and third choice Hunter. I would not offer Hunter more than one year so I doubt he would come to NY. Easier for him just to go to TEX for a year it is closer to his home.

    None of the others really interest me much.

  12. yankee21 November 4th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    BTW: my prediction is Hunter will sign with TEX.

    Hamilton will sign with LAD if LA clears Ethier’s salary. If not, my bet is on SF getting Hamilton.

  13. Yankee Trader November 4th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Yankee21-

    Do you think the Giants will want to pay Hamilton 20M+/year when they still have Cain, Lincecum and Zito making big bucks? Or do they just resign Scutaro and Pagan, with some other minor tinkering?

  14. yankee21 November 4th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    yt; I believe Zito is coming off the books fairly soon and I also believe Lincecum is not signed to a LT deal. They also have to recognize their offense needs another middle of the order stick.

    So yes, I believe SF could be in on Josh at a level surpassing casual inquiry.

    If Ethier gets moved though, look out for the LAD being first in line to reel in Hamilton.

    If I’m SF I find a way to keep Scutaro he has value all over the IF. I let Pagan walk, guys with his skill sets grow on trees.

  15. Yankee Trader November 4th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    Have to go.

    For all of you affected by the devastation in the Northeast and still without power, gas, or homes, I hope things start to become better soon. Please come on board and tell us how you and your families are doing.

    Until later.

  16. mick November 4th, 2012 at 10:09 am

    Gardner to CF is a precursor to a Grandy trade or at the very least, his final year as a Yankee.

  17. DONNYBROOK November 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Cashman’s argument of 2 yrs ago, concerning Soriano wanting more\$$$ than the going rate for a setup guy, continues to hold water. The Yanks Now gotta hope some other team tops their QO, or they are on the hook for $13.3 Mill. As I said before, Never should of made a QO to Soriano, and the same goes for Swish-The-Clown. You guys can dream about accumulating all the draft picks you want, but Hal is Not gonna shell out Unlimited coin for Lottery Tickets\Unproven Kids.

  18. MTU November 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    Mick-

    You could be onto something there.

    GGBG needs to return to form and show that he can stay healthy.

    ;)

  19. Cashmoney November 4th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    1-1.5 mil to Gomes as platoon dh and 5th OF makes a lot of sense to me.

  20. jacksquat November 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Gomes will probably get a little more than that after the year he had.

  21. Shame Spencer November 4th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Man.. I wish I could figure out if my bus were operating on schedule.. this has been a logistical nightmare.

  22. Shame Spencer November 4th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Trader – Good to see you, things are okay in my neck of the woods (besides the no power/no gas thing). Can’t complain even a little. Maybe a break from the internet wasn’t a bad thing :D

  23. Shame Spencer November 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    My nephew had a great response to everything.. I asked him, ‘Were you scared when the lights went out?’ and he said, ‘No… but I was scared when the TV went off!!’

    Smart kid. Priorities and what not.

  24. MTU November 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Shame-

    Recruit him for team greedy.

    Perhaps he can teach Cashman a thing or two.

    Welcome back.

    ;)

  25. Shame Spencer November 4th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    MTU – Done and done! This is the same one that wakes up at 6am and immediately asks me to give him candy, so he’s well on his way to making Team Greedy proud.

  26. The Return of Stoneburner November 4th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    4. Melky Cabrera, OF, free agent — Baseball is expected to conclude its investigation of the whole Cabrera/Sam and Seth Levinson case soon. If there are more charges, teams will stay away from Cabrera, who served a 50-day suspension for testing positive for testosterone and also is being investigated for a false website that sold products to disguise steroids.

  27. tucker November 4th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Hamilton complained that SF fans were smoking herb in the bleachers during the 2010 World Series. It doesn’t seem like a likely landing place for him, IMO.

  28. The Return of Stoneburner November 4th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Sounds as if Montgomery could be up mid to late 2013 or by 2014 with his incredible slider – but also sounds as if still needs some work on the fastball and could add a little velo or better command at this point – also some improvement with the change. Hopefully by some point in 2014 Montgomery can be there setting up in the 7th and 8th along with the Goodys and Corey Blacks of the world – - – -

  29. austinmac November 4th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    RAB reports that “friends” say Kuroda is undecided whether to playfor the Yankees or Hiroshima. Cross your fingers.

  30. RadioKev November 4th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Hopefully Monty gets the chance to pick Mo’s brain next year.

  31. tucker November 4th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    austinmac November 4th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    RAB reports that “friends” say Kuroda is undecided whether to playfor the Yankees or Hiroshima. Cross your fingers.”

    Which raises an interesting question. Would the Yanks get a pick if Kuroda, who received a QO, signs with a Japanese team? My guess is probably not.

  32. BIG AL November 4th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Taking Nardi out of the postion he has ruined, may prove to be the best off season move. Gill should help the young pitchers develop better skill sets, IMO.

  33. Triple Short of a Cycle November 4th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Hamilton complained that SF fans were smoking herb in the bleachers during the 2010 World Series. It doesn’t seem like a likely landing place for him, IMO.

    —————————-

    Yet he has no problem with the copious amounts of beer that is consumed?

  34. The Return of Stoneburner November 4th, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    The Indians should follow the example of the Athletics and overhaul their team this offseason, opines ESPN.com’s Buster Olney (Insider sub. req’d). Olney suggests that Cleveland can start the fire sale by trading shortstop Asdrubal Cabrera to a team such as the A’s, Mariners, Red Sox, or Yankees.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#VvjGkgmdFG6U6wzU.99

  35. tucker November 4th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    The A’s overhauled their season by trading their young proven starters for even younger starters. Which was a brilliant move by B Beane because he gained more years of control by trading for rookie pitchers.

    Cabrera is a nice SS, and I doubt the Tribe lets him go. Also don’t see them going into complete rebuilding mode after hiring Francona.

  36. PacoDooley November 4th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    I saw a report that Boras would like to get Soriano $60m for 4 years. I know salaries have been stupid at times, but I don’t see anything like that happening. Last off season should be a lesson. Papelbon got way too much and the Phillies looked like idiots after closer salaries and contract lengths fell well short of that deal after that opening.

    I am guessing he could possibly get $40m for 3 years.

  37. jacksquat November 4th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    Boras always starts ridiculously high. He is probably really looking for 3/36+.

  38. jacksquat November 4th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Jeter is probably expecting to play lots of SS next year, so I don’t think they could bring in someone like Asdrubal Cabrera yet.

  39. Cashmoney November 4th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Jeter is probably expecting to play lots of SS next year, so I don’t think they could bring in someone like Asdrubal Cabrera yet.
    ——-
    planning your future around a 39 year old anyone is not a good idea. Personally, I would not mind Jeter retires, so a guy like Nunez can get a chance. but if you don’t think Nunez can do the job at a astronomically lower rate than the highest paid SS in the game. then You need to start find a future solution soon, cuz Jeter aint gonna maintain his ability forever, plus his D is gonna worse, range wise he is already horrible.

  40. jacksquat November 4th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Having Nunez is a lot different than bringing in another young, starting SS and putting Jeter out to pasture (DH). It’s one thing to do that with Posada, Jeter is another level. So just keep Nunez and he plays as much as Jeter can’t in 2013, and see what you have. If Jeter is fully healthy I would still consider playing Nunez at SS vs all lhp and have Jeter DH those games. This would both help take some load off Jeter, and let you see what Nunez can do with a little more regular play.

  41. The Return of Stoneburner November 4th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    Good to see #NinjaIchiro at the Knicks game.

  42. austinmac November 4th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    The Newsday writer has the Yankees losing Kuroda and adding Scott Hairston. He has Hunter going elsewhere and Ichiro and Martin re-signing.

    This may well happen, but I hope not. Losing Kuroda would effectively eliminate any chance to trade a pitcher while losing last year’s most reliable starter. Hairston was pretty good last year. In 2010-11 he was pretty awful.

    Honestly, is their a plan to improve the team or is it to band aid the team with short cheap contracts while hoping AROD, Tex will improve and Jeter return ready to repeat last year? I think it is very likely the latter.

    I have heard no suggestion by anyone other than we fans of any real effort to improve. That is not acceptable to me.

  43. Tar November 4th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    “Personally, I would not mind Jeter retires, so a guy like Nunez can get a chance. ”

    I wonder how many thought that way last year?

    I guess if it keeps getting repeated, eventually the get rid of Jeter “because he’s too expensive and has crappy range crew” will be right……..Maybe. :wink:

    I think it’s more likely he moves off the SS position (when they actually get a better SS) than he retires.

  44. Against All Odds November 4th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    BIG AL November 4th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Taking Nardi out of the postion he has ruined, may prove to be the best off season move. Gill should help the young pitchers develop better skill sets, IMO.

    ———————————

    I’m still raving about that move because they are finally admitting a problem.

  45. Cashmoney November 4th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Tar November 4th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    “Personally, I would not mind Jeter retires, so a guy like Nunez can get a chance. ”

    I wonder how many thought that way last year?

    I guess if it keeps getting repeated, eventually the get rid of Jeter “because he’s too expensive and has crappy range crew” will be right……..Maybe.

    I think it’s more likely he moves off the SS position (when they actually get a better SS) than he retires.
    ———
    firstable, I am not in any kind of the effing crew. second, I would have love to see Nunez get a chance over Jeter last year precisely because his poor range and he makes a lot of money. 3. the whole point about cabrera is that he might be a star in the making and might be a long term solution to jeter for those who think lowly of Nunez. 4. let’s try not be so passive aggressive.

  46. Tar November 4th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    “let’s try not be so passive aggressive.”

    As opposed to your outright aggressiveness?

    I disagreed with your effin assessment. I let you know about it, and even gave you an example of how wrong it was just last year. I even added an elfin wink to not be so effin aggressive. I am a big supporter of Nunez, and think he should get more playing time. I thought so last year and during the play-offs. But I sure don’t want to see Jeter our current SS and most consistent hitter RETIRE so Nunez can get some more elfin playing time. Hope I wasn’t so passive this time.

  47. Cashmoney November 4th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    I disagreed with your effin assessment. I let you know about it, and even gave you an example of how wrong it was just last year. I even added an elfin wink to not be so effin aggressive. I am a big supporter of Nunez, and think he should get more playing time. I thought so last year and during the play-offs. But I sure don’t want to see Jeter our current SS and most consistent hitter RETIRE so Nunez can get some more elfin playing time. Hope I wasn’t so passive this time.

    Ah, you disagree. that’s fine. that’s all you have to type.

  48. The Return of Stoneburner November 4th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Hey now – - – -

    Josh Hamilton, ranked second on MLBTR’s Top 50 Free Agent List, is said to be looking for a seven-year contract worth $175MM, tweets John Perrotto of Baseball Prospectus (h/t the Dallas Morning News).
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#t7kvxTCR4Y0wCzby.99

  49. NYY_Girl_Penny November 4th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Nunez LOL you people are so strange sometimes. He is an error making machine, walked 22 times w/500 AB, free swinger with less than avg power. Yeah, he is the next Jeter in the making..

    oh remember Chad’s Nunez article ?

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....rdo-nunez/

    Stop with your nonsense of mediocre average / cheap players that you think are all stars. SMH..SMH

  50. Tar November 4th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    I would give Josh 25 for 3 not anywhere close to 7 years. 20 for 5 would be my top offer, and I would do that with reservations..

    Big penalty I hope Cruz is ok.

  51. blake November 4th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    5/115 is my top offer for Hamilton…..if that’ll do it I think they should sign him….. If he can get more than that elsewhere them Id pass

  52. Cashmoney November 4th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    I think the first team gives Hamilton 6 years gets him. avv of 23 seems about right, though he probably is seeking 25 a year and little north of that. I don’t think the Yanks will be in play i hope i am wrong.

  53. Against All Odds November 4th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    The problem won’t. If the market dried up and he wanted a 1 yr deal with the goal of going on the market next yr then they would probably jump in.

  54. Against All Odds November 4th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    ***They probably won’t***

  55. mick November 4th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    Hal’s a Boy Scout and not bringing in Hamillton or Melky.

  56. tomingeorgia November 4th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    Delighted to see the post-storm tenor hasn’t changed. Keep Swisher.

  57. RadioKev November 4th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Some video of Heathcott. Looks very balanced at the plate.

  58. RadioKev November 4th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....14275.html

  59. Deal With It November 4th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Anybody know where that GB7 guy has been ?

  60. Deal With It November 4th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Like his ml info. posts

  61. jacksquat November 4th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    Look for the Yankees to re-sign Russell Martin, but the Bombers have had their eye on free agent David Ross, who has served as Brian McCann’s backup with the Braves since 2009.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#OcbHflqKVUmsmoDD.99

  62. PacoDooley November 5th, 2012 at 7:15 am

    Interesting titbit from Yahoo’s list of free agents:

    129. Endy Chavez, OF: Ranked 393rd out of 401 players with at least 150 plate appearances in OPS+ last year.

  63. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    Good morning-

    This is typical Boras “spiel.”

    “I can only say the Yankees told us they were interested in signing Soriano while expecting Rivera to come back,” Boras said yesterday.

    “It was a correct decision two years ago to sign Soriano to provide depth, and Mariano was younger,” Boras said. “Soriano saved [42] games and Mariano is two years older. It was a wise move then and a wiser move now.”

    Boras trying to get other teams to up their offers- money and years. If the best he can do for Soriano is 2 years 9-10M/year, watch him convince Soriano that the guaranteed 13.3M for one year is the way to go and reenter the FA market again.

    Then the Yankees looking to shed payroll this offseason, the roster will be pretty much be the same. No expensive RF’er, more like Ichiro and a number of AAA players to round out the roster, after Kuroda, Pettitte, Martin return.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....w6IrYZ0wQN

  64. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 8:02 am

    Ultimate free-agent tracker: Position breakdown
    9 hours ago Jeff Passan

    Positions: SP – RP – P – C – 1B – 2B – 3B – SS – OF – UT – DH

    Here is the free-agent class of 2012-13, ranked from Nos. 1 to 175. The rankings are based on a number of variables, including each player’s history, age and potential, and are as much about predicted performance as market value, providing a general outline as free agency unfolds between now and spring training.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/m.....kdown.html

  65. blake November 5th, 2012 at 8:12 am

    If Hamilton’s market falls into the 5 year range then sign him and shop Granderson for a 3B/SS prospect.

    I tend to agree with Sherman yesterday more and more that to trade for a young star player it’s going to be somewhat counterproductive most likely in that you’ll have to deal at least some of the young and promising guys you have.

    Signing Hamilton extends the window possibly until those players are ready…..

    That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t pursue Justin Upton or Chase Headley…it just means that they need to seriously weigh the player cost to acquire vs just money….. Know they have a budget….but in the end prospects can actually be more beneficial to the budget than just about anything else

    The Yanks best shot at long term payroll flexibility is for that group in A ball to pan out and offset salary at the big league level…if they trade them all away then whatever percentage that had to happen becomes zero

  66. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    More from Scott Boras:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ies-110412

    Boras would rather the Yankees not follow through on plans to bring their payroll beneath the luxury tax threshold of $189 million by 2014. They have paid at the top luxury tax rate of 40 percent for a number of years. Boras calls this the “goliath tax” and believes the Yankees should be willing to pay such a “nominal” fee for generating three times the revenue as other teams.

    “That is a reward,” he said. “Are you going to put your brand at risk, when your brand is having more superstars than anyone else? Superstars are good for business. Superstars make money for franchises and their television networks.”

    Sell the Yankees to Boras!! :)

  67. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Nov. 7-9 — General managers meetings, Indian Wells, Calif.

    Time for a LoHud member of Team Greedy to attend. Blake can you go?

  68. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    Blake-

    After Kuroda accepts the 13.3M, Rivera gets 10M+ incentives, Pettitte resigns for 8-10M, Martin for 15-16M total for 2 years, Ichiro for 5-6M + incentives, PLUS all arb raises and raises for Cano and Granderson etc.,plus filling out a bench……….

    Plus setting aside money for inseason acquisitions, that could be swallowed up by ARods 6M marketing bonus………..

    Show me the money for Josh Hamilton!! :)

  69. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Blake-

    Plus still paying AJ Burnett.

    I think the odds are better that their is a tie in the Electoral College this year than a Yankee signing of Josh Hamilton this offseason.

  70. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    Where’s MTU, Austinmac, Yankees21, Jacksquat, Jerkface, Yank61, the morning crew, when you need them? :)

  71. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    *there* is a tie

  72. MTU November 5th, 2012 at 8:44 am

    Morning YT.

    Bad biorythms caused by setting back the clock.

    :)

  73. austinmac November 5th, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Good morning, morning crowd. Boras says things for his client’s benefit, but I agree with him on the Yankee brand. Stars and winning make lots of money. Old, dull teams who don’t make the playoffs lose a fortune in revenue.

    That is the risk.

  74. blake November 5th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    “Time for a LoHud member of Team Greedy to attend. Blake can you go?”

    I may actually go and stalk Jon Heyman at the winter meetings in Nashville ;)

    Where is the money for Hamilton? Well they would need to have their young pitching (namely Pineda ) pan out and then they will need to fill the pen from within or cheaply……also they’ll have to have the position players they have coming pan out…..

    As I’ve said ….if those things don’t happen then iMO its going to be tough to get under 189 and stay competitive anyway…..

    Signing Hamilton could extend their window a couple of years…and that’s what they need…..either way they are going to have to rely on in house guys to teach their goals….,they need a plan to bridge the gap to that point

  75. MTU November 5th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Blake-

    The plan is Gordon, Keppinger, and AJ P.

    Forget Hamilton.

    ;)

  76. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Blake-

    Your assuming that the Steinbrenner’s by signing Hamilton, won’t mind the extra 23M this year, and also not mind being well over the LT threshold of 178M@ 42.5% tax rate. Their opening day 2012 payroll was nearly 210M. After you bring back Kuroda, Pettitte, Rivera, martin, Ichiro, you’ll be lucky after additional expenses to bring down the 2013 opening day payroll to 200M and that’s without Hamilton.

    Show me the money-the calculated 2013 opening day payroll with the returns of the above and Hamilton.

  77. MTU November 5th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    I’ll be back after the Mops walk me.

    :)

  78. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Blake-

    I forgot to mention Soriano coming back, per typical Boras “spiel” added onto the others. That one, we’ll at least know by 5PM ET, Friday.

  79. blake November 5th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Trader,

    I think they are ok for 2013…..2014 is the issue. Hamilton also would give them some leverage against Cano and a backup plan in case he leaves after 2013. A 5 year deal starting in 2013 for Hamilton is better than a 7 or 8 year deal starting in 2014 for Cano……

  80. Yankee Trader November 5th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    New Post————–>

    See you on the other side.

  81. blake November 5th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    MTU,

    Would love to have Gordon….not sure they can get him though

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