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Report: Blue Jays close to acquiring Josh Johnson

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 13, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here’s a blockbuster for ya…

Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal are reporting that the Blue Jays and Marlins are working on a massive deal that will send five players — including ace Josh Johnson, shortstop Jose Reyes and starter Mark Buehrle – to Toronto. The details are still rolling in, and there’s still some uncertainty about which names are involved, but clearly the Marlins are clearing a bunch of payroll and the Blue Jays are significantly remaking their roster.

 
 

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153 Responses to “Report: Blue Jays close to acquiring Josh Johnson”

  1. kd November 13th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    marlins payroll is going to be ~20 million after this deal

  2. Phranchise November 13th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Just shut the Marlins down, they are a joke. Who would ever want to sign there with the hope of building anything and any young player will want to leave. Move the Franchise

  3. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Now that’s exciting !

    Too bad it’s not the Yankees.

    :(

  4. G. Love November 13th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Not sure putting Jose Reyes hamstrings on Toronto turf 1/2 the season is a wise idea, but that is a monster deal for Toronto.

    With a healthy Bautista they may actually be a real threat.

  5. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Gimme Stanton.

    :)

  6. willwill November 13th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Marlins clearing money for AROD?

  7. Phranchise November 13th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Ha Arod for Stanton

  8. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    G. Love-

    May ? Will be.

    ;)

  9. pat November 13th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    hankschulman
    I just called the Marlins seeking parking passes for next season and they offered me Ricky Nolasco and Logan Morrison instead.

  10. pat November 13th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    JoeyBats19

    Its a good day to be a bluejay!

  11. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    JJ, Beurhle, Romero, Drabek, Morrow.

    I’d say that’s pretty damn good if everyone stays healthy.

  12. CountryClub November 13th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Reyes is really the only player that I’ve heard that worries me. Buehrle is fine but nothing special at this point. Johnson is always hurt and his stuff has taken a step back because of the injuries. Getting Buck is a decent addition to.

  13. G. Love November 13th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    MTU,

    I’m stunned and just wrapping my head around the fact that the Jays, O’s and Rays could all be passing us soon while Hal and Cashman sit in a sweat lodge together playing with their abacus.

  14. G. Love November 13th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Watch Cashman trade for Mike Stanton and think we’re getting Giancarlo only to have our old reliable lefty show up for the press conference!

  15. Patrick November 13th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    The Marlins are a joke. I wish the Yankees had gotten Johnson and Reyes. Sucks to be Jose Reyes, this is why you get a no-trade clause.

  16. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    G. Love-

    You forgot the Sux.

    They have a ton of free cash to spend.

    If the Yankees rest on their laurels now they are punting next season.

    the O’s might even wind up w Hamilton.

  17. hardwired7 November 13th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    John Farrell: “Hey guys, I was just kidding about signing with Boston.”

  18. RMS November 13th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    Johnson, Buehrle, Reyes

    =============================================================
    Any one of those 3 would have looked good in a Yankee uniform.

  19. blake November 13th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    blake says:
    November 13, 2012 at 6:41 pm
    This isn’t the trade the Dodgers made with Boston if its all true…..this makes the jays a lot better and a playoff contender pretty much instantly

  20. G. Love November 13th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Just trust the process & the budget. In 2025 we’re going to be sensational!

  21. blake November 13th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Yea Im sure Reyes is pumped about moving to Canada

  22. RadioKev November 13th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Holy cr@p

  23. G. Love November 13th, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    Yankees should hire Loria & Beinfest if they’re serious about cutting payroll.

  24. RadioKev November 13th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Well. The AL East is just about to get more interesting. Good for the Blue Jays.

  25. Tyler November 13th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    So the Marlins are basically going to be Giancarlo and the dancing disco out in center?

  26. RadioKev November 13th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Did tax payer money go to the new Marlins stadium? Loria deserves to be thrown in jail, if so.

  27. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    Baseball in Fla.

    :)

  28. BD (Boston Dave) November 13th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    Well, the Yanks will be in the playoff race but this makes the AL East perhaps the toughest division in baseball. The fans won’t stand for it but it wouldn’t be the worst thing if the Yanks do trade guys like Granderson and other tradable assets to infuse some young talent and hope to get back into serious WS contention by 2015…

    The Orioles are legit. The Rays will be tough again. If the Jays are legit…. are the Sawx easily the worst team on paper in the division? and how tough will it be for the Yanks to make it through?

    hmm. Yanks can certainly find a way to win – but what’s the best strategy?

  29. Tyler November 13th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    The Marlins really are a joke of a franchise. I understand wanting to cut bad contracts but this makes their spending spree seem like a cheap ploy to get fans into the park for the first year…. I figured they’d at least try to keep Reyes….

  30. RMS November 13th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    The AL East is just about to get more interesting. Good for the Blue Jays.

    ———————————————————————————————
    Now, what moves will Cashman make?

  31. Patrick November 13th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Did tax payer money go to the new Marlins stadium? Loria deserves to be thrown in jail, if so.

    Yes, from what I understand approximately 80% of the new stadium was paid by the City of Miami and Miami-Dade County (the tax payers).

  32. Phranchise November 13th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    The fact the Marlins didn’t get one of the catchers is surprising as well

  33. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    RMS-

    Do not expect a a signifcant response. Especially if it involves a lot of money.

    ;)

  34. CountryClub November 13th, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    I guess I’m in the minority, but this trade just doesn’t impress me. The two pitchers have big names, but bigger question marks. Reyes obviously helps. But jays gave away some good young players too.

  35. jr1212 November 13th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Giancarlo Stanton ?@Giancarlo818
    Alright, I’m pissed off!!! Plain & Simple

    Cashman get to work!!!!!

  36. RadioKev November 13th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    Well BD, the AL East was already the best division in baseball. The Rays should have been in the playoffs, not the Tigers. We had three playoff teams.

    I do question the O’s, still. The rotation should improve, but the bullpen is about to crashland to earth. They played way over their heads, and they’ll be burnt out.

  37. Tyler November 13th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    RMS November 13th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
    The AL East is just about to get more interesting. Good for the Blue Jays.

    ———————————————————————————————
    Now, what moves will Cashman make?
    —————————————————————

    Not much judging by the sound of interviews. Cashman has been stealthy in the past but I really think Hal is limiting what he can do…. I think the goal is to have as few players under contract entering 2014 as possible. That likely means 1 year guys like Ichiro coming back.

  38. RMS November 13th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    MTU

    Well, I guess Cashlessman will be looking for cheap leftie hitter beasts.

  39. RadioKev November 13th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Tyler November 13th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
    The Marlins really are a joke of a franchise. I understand wanting to cut bad contracts but this makes their spending spree seem like a cheap ploy to get fans into the park for the first year…. I figured they’d at least try to keep Reyes….
    ———-

    They also jacked up the free agent market. How can Selig stand for this? This is against the spirit of the game.

  40. Patrick November 13th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi
    #Marlins opened season with a payroll of roughly $100MM. After this trade, non-arb 2013 obligations will be ~ $16MM. Historic salary dump.

  41. ac1 November 13th, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    1. AROD would never approve a trade to the Marlins now.
    2. Time for the Yankees to swoop in and trade for Giancarlo Stanton.

  42. Tyler November 13th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Giancarlo in YS would be unbelievable. 50 homers easily… but he seems to be the Loria centerpiece of the franchise. Tough for him…

  43. Jerkface November 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    Trade for an upset Stanton please

  44. kd November 13th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    mason williams and phelps for stanton?

  45. RadioKev November 13th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    kd November 13th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
    mason williams and phelps for stanton?
    ———

    That’s an overpay compared to this deal. Adam Warren would be the equivalent headliner for Stanton.

  46. kd November 13th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    warren for stanton would be great!

  47. Run it Out November 13th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    Miami-Dade County

    $376.3 million

    City of Miami

    $132.5 million [a]

    Miami Marlins

    $125.2 million

    Cost

    $634 million

    Congratulations to the taxpayers of Miami-Dade County. Loria just gat ‘ya.

  48. ac1 November 13th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    I just cant believe MLB allows the Marlins to function this way. The deal with the Tigers and now this….

    Didn’t they get reprimanded a couple years back for not spending enough on the team?

  49. Triple Short of a Cycle November 13th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    The Orioles are legit

    ——————–

    Based on what? Their non sustainable 1 run and extra innings win record?

    They will be lucky to be 500 next year

  50. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    All the prospects for Stanton

  51. ac1 November 13th, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    I hope the Rays understand they are never getting a new stadium after this fiasco in Miami…. Florida will never approve something ever again.

  52. ac1 November 13th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    i can see Stanton’s numbers dropping this year because of his situation in Miami….

  53. theREALkevin November 13th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    The Marlins are a joke of a franchise. They make a bunch of big signings, open a brand new stadium, and now everyone is gone after one season. One. What a bunch of clowns. And who are they getting in return…. Heccavaria who is all glove, no bat? Freaking Yunel Escobar? And Marisnick who hit .233 in AA last year. Wow. Those guys down in Florida really know what they’re doing.

  54. ac1 November 13th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    This is why this luxury tax BS is just stupid. A team like the Marlins can pull crap like this, but lets punish the teams that are in large markets and can afford to spend.

  55. Run it Out November 13th, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Yea the Marlins were reprimanded by MLB for pocketing the majority of their revenue sharing.

  56. Jerkface November 13th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Marlins only team that charges media to park, and you must buy it on their Web site and pay handling fees, too. Cost $78 for 4-game series.
    — Andrew Baggarly (@CSNBaggs)

  57. Run it Out November 13th, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    St. Pete has already told the Rays they are not getting out of their lease which I believe runs until 2025. Good luck with that.

  58. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West November 13th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Wow just wow, J.P. arrancibia was also included, so as long as the yankees are trading for Stanton might as well as for J.P. too

  59. Run it Out November 13th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    JP would be a nice pick up. Young and still developing.

  60. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    You folks don’t get it.

    The Marlins want to KEEP their cheap guys.

    Stanton is a star and he’s cheap.

    ;)

  61. DaSaint007 November 13th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    FLASH: Marlins included their staduium in the deal too!

  62. jr1212 November 13th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Besides South Beach what other reason would any FA sign in Miami?

    Also good luck to Tino now…..

  63. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Whoever said that the taxpayers of Miami got screwed was dead on.

    Whoever said that teams should not be allowed to operate in this fashion was equally spot on.

    If I were the Rays I’d demand an immediate release to move to Charlotte.

    Baseball in Fla. is a Joke.

  64. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    And by the way, I’ll take Friedman and all of the TB scouts.

    :)

  65. Patrick November 13th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    If I were the Rays I’d demand an immediate release to move to Charlotte.

    If I were the Rays I’d demand to be given Marlin park. Contract the Marlins and just give their stadium to the Rays, a team that actually deserves it. The fish theme still works too so we get to keep the dinger machine and therefore everyone wins.

  66. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    AND their pitching development people.

  67. joeman November 13th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    don’t know what they are giving back but they are picking up almost 40 mil per

  68. Triple Short of a Cycle November 13th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    At this point Hamilton could offer to sign for 30 million for 2 years with us and we would turn it down

  69. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West November 13th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Here the yankees are twiddling their collective thumbs as every team in the A.L. east gets better. Meanwhile we concentrate on Raul Ibanez and Russel Martin and trot the same 40 yr olds out year after year.

  70. pat November 13th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    JimBowdenESPNxm: Jays new lineup: Reyes SS Bonifacio 2B Bautista RF Encarnacion 1B Lawrie 3B Rasmus CF D’Arnaud C Lind DH Arencibia C

  71. joeman November 13th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West November 13th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    Here the yankees are twiddling their collective thumbs as every team in the A.L. east gets better. Meanwhile we concentrate on Raul Ibanez and Russel Martin and trot the same 40 yr olds out year after year.

    —————————————————-
    and there’s nothing they can do about it

  72. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Johnson, Romero, Morrow, Buerle, Drabek/Cecil etc

    Not a bad little rotation…..could be great if Johnson and morrow stay healthy and Romero bounces back

  73. joeman November 13th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Marlins fan base this coming season might be smaller than small…..they need a draw and I have someone in mind

  74. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    AA is so aggressive…..I wonder what that’s like

  75. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    Blake-

    You’re behind the times. I already pointed that out.

    ;)

  76. NYY_Girl_Penny November 13th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    LOLOLOL

    Lost .. ?@LostNYY
    BREAKING NEWS: #Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria trading the hotdog vendor in sections 20-84 replacing them with bread and water vendors.

    Lost, water is a hot commodity, but I get what your saying.

  77. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West November 13th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    really nothing? the yankees have money! Im not one of those deluded fans who expects the yankees to spend 100 million every winter, but i do expect them to spend some money and not on broken down pieces of crap.

  78. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Blake-

    It helps when you have money to spend.

    ;)

  79. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    joeman says:
    November 13, 2012 at 7:43 pm
    Marlins fan base this coming season might be smaller than small…..they need a draw and I have someone in mind

    He has a no trade and won’t go there now

  80. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    MTU.

    I’m still processing ;)

  81. joeman November 13th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
    joeman says:
    November 13, 2012 at 7:43 pm
    Marlins fan base this coming season might be smaller than small…..they need a draw and I have someone in mind

    He has a no trade and won’t go there now

    ——————————–
    crap

  82. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    blake-

    Process this.

    The AL East just got even tougher.

    ;)

  83. Duh Innings II November 13th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Solid rotation on paper but who would the Blue Jays have worth a damn offensively besides Bautista, Encarnacion, and Reyes to back up that rotation?

    The 2012 Blue Jays finished 73-89 with a dreadful team ERA of 4.64 and a dreadful team slashline of .245 / .309 / .407 / .716.

    I don’t see Josh Johnson, Mark Buerhle, and Jose Reyes significantly improving on that enough for the Blue Jays to win even the second wildcard slot. 81-85 wins tops.

    BTW this would be a one-year rental of Johnson and who’s to say Reyes won’t demand a trade and become a free-agent to get out of Toronto? Buerhle got his World Series ring with the 2005 Chicago White Sox so I doubt he’d care if he was traded to Toronto, but I could see Johnson and Reyes saying “Get me the @#$% outta here!”

    The Marlins pulled a fast one with their fans again. Scumbags!

  84. joeman November 13th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    are the Yankees really plannng on playing B Gardner in LF …..do they think he can steal 1st base

  85. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    I bet mark Buerle is pumped right now…. Id be very hesitant to sign with the marlins now after this stunt if I was a player

  86. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    I hope Mac doesn’t see this trade.

    His head might explode.

    :(

  87. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    The Jays and Red Sox will be better than last year….the Orioles seem committed to staying around….and the Rays will be there as always……..just be content Yanks….you’ll find yourselves in 4th place in a flash

  88. PacoDooley November 13th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West November 13th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
    really nothing? the yankees have money! Im not one of those deluded fans who expects the yankees to spend 100 million every winter, but i do expect them to spend some money and not on broken down pieces of crap.
    ——————————————-

    I would love to know how much money the NYY really have compared to other teams. 29 MLB teams are MLB teams, the Yankees are a global brand. I live in England and if I went on a walk around town every day, I would be guaranteed to see at least a dozen NYY items, many of which are officially licensed. I can go into any of the sports shops in town and buy hats, bags and other NYY merchandise and it is all licensed. Go to any developed nation and you will see a lot of officially licensed Yankees merchandise. I just don’t see how they do not have a massive financial edge on all of baseball. yes, they have the highest salary, but lately they feel like they are back in the rest of the pack (with historical signings, like A-Rods albatross deal being largely responsible for their payroll).

  89. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Blake-

    The Yankees are good just the way they sit.

    Ask Hal and Cashman.

  90. Phranchise November 13th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    The Red Sox are going to be better how exactly? They have a bad team and nothing to trade. Their staff still stinks and the pen is the same. And we haven’t even started on the lineup or defense. I hope they blow all their money now. They will repeat the same mistakes of the past

  91. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Paco-

    You are not getting it mate.

    They have the money. They just won’t go above 189.

    Comprendo ?

    ;)

  92. DaSaint007 November 13th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    One of the most amazing salary dump/lopsided trades in recent memory.

    Speaking of memory, I know I’ve been out of the loop almost all year, but where’s GB? Please tell me he’s ok.

  93. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Everybody trying to improve….Hal counting his coins

  94. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Ricky nolasco available?

  95. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Where is Jmills

  96. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Blake-

    He’s passed out from all the champagne he drank.

    :)

  97. blake November 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    @joe_sheehan: I don’t think this is over. I feel like AA could pull a Napoli with Johnson and flip him for full value.

    Very possible

  98. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Blake-

    I wish we could afford JJ.

    Man that AA likes to wheel and deal.

    Think maybe he’s Billy Beane’s long lost cousin ?

    :)

  99. austinmac November 13th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    I don’t care about the Marlins. What I care about is another competitor improves. We knowingly regress without a youth movement.

    Imagine adding any or all of the trade players? I wish I could anymore.

  100. djsunyc November 13th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    isn’t there a minimum payroll that must be met by teams?

  101. blake November 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    @jimcallisBA: Looks like Norris, Smoral, Alford will move into Top 10. @rafaanieves: How does the #Bluejays Top 10 look like now?

  102. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Mac-

    I was worried about you when you caught the news.

    Is your head OK ?

    :)

  103. Phranchise November 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    I’d say the young Jays GM is doing a very nice job of turning that franchise around. Even ridding themselves of Wells. He stole Morrow from the Ms for nothing. I was really upset Yankees never gave him a look even if only as a reliever. His stuff was too good. And not that Rasmus has panned out but he got him for nothing as well.

  104. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Well at least there is finally something to talk about.

    :)

  105. yankee21 November 13th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Taxpayers in the Miami area must be major-league pissed off. Foot the bill for some BS stadium, get the hype, get an idiotic, fanatical Manager, only to see the owner sell off all the pieces as soon as the snow falls north of the border. What a joke.

    Once again while our esteemed GM is saying it is early, that things are quiet, not to expect to much, you have other GMs in his own division that have the utter nerve to think it is not too early to make some moves to improve their team.

    Good thing we have a cautious GM as I’m sure all the best deals will be available in mid February.

  106. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    21-

    Cashman is going to make you eat your words.

    :)

  107. Pat M. November 13th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Can’t wait to read Tricia’s reaction to this trade……

  108. DaSaint007 November 13th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Marlins are even chipping in $4 million in the deal. How nice.

  109. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Pat M.-

    Trisha is an excellent defense counsel.

    ;)

  110. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    Saint-

    No news on GB unfortunately.

    Hope baby Saint is well.

    :)

  111. LGY November 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    Jays should sign Napoli now.

  112. Against All Odds November 13th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    Cashman has to at least check in on Stanton right. Even if its a no he has to at least put a call in.

  113. Pat M. November 13th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    MTU….She loathe’s Loria……Da Saint007, GB hasn’t been around since late August….He hasn’t responded to e-mails either and Doreen has and still tries to find out what or if anything has happened to him……..SJ nor Randy have any insights as well to what happened to The Greenberet7…..Very troubling

  114. DaSaint007 November 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    MTU,

    Thanks regarding GB. I thought it odd that I haven’t seen any of his posts.
    Thanks too regarding baby Simon, as GB would say. He just turned 2, end of Oct.

  115. Nick in SF November 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Look at the bright side: we won’t have to listen to Michael Kay mispronounce “Hechavarria” for 18 games next season.

  116. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Pat M.-

    Good to see you round.

    Well then she’s just been given even more reason.

  117. RadioKev November 13th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    6:44pm: The Marlins are chipping in $4MM in the trade and right-hander Anthony DeSclafani will be a part of the trade, a source tells Juan C. Rodriguez of the Sun-Sentinel (via Twitter).

    6:42pm: Jeff Mathis will go to the Marlins in the trade, according to Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun (via Twitter). Meanwhile, Gregor Chisholm of MLB.com (via Twitter) hears from a source that Arencibia will not be a part of the swap.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#5xCQfOTPMZgkbx4c.99
    —————–

    RAGBHRAGHA

  118. austinmac November 13th, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Pat M.,

    Any scuttlebutt?

  119. RadioKev November 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Nick in SF November 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
    Look at the bright side: we won’t have to listen to Michael Kay mispronounce “Hechavarria” for 18 games next season.

    :D

  120. Against All Odds November 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    GB has been M.I.A. for several months. Hopefully he is ok we all miss him

  121. DaSaint007 November 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Thanks Pat M. Not liking the sound of that.

  122. RadioKev November 13th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    Remember when Hanley Ramirez and Jose Reyes were making compromises about positions and being BFF’s on the Marlins?

  123. DaSaint007 November 13th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Whatever’s happend to GB, I’m sure he’s giving someone hell wherever he is.
    Keep on fighting GB.

  124. austinmac November 13th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    MTU,

    I managed not to bang my head, but strained my neck shaking my head so much. I sometimes remember when. Wasn’t it fun when the team was in on the good players? Now, it seems good players get no consideration due to longevity and cost.

    As a great movie character once said “Inconceivable”.

  125. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Mac-

    Glad you’re OK. I thought your head might explode.

    Yes. It was easier when the Yankees were able to flex their financial muscle.

    We have a promising Farm but it’s gonna take some time.

    And banking on the Farm is always risky.

    189 is a straightjacket worthy of Houndini.

    Quite a contraption Selig came up with to stifle the Yankees.

  126. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    My name is Hal Steinbrenner and I love #’s.

    And I love spreadsheets too.

    :)

  127. Pat M. November 13th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Austinmac…..The only thing I’ve heard is that The Dodgers are hot for Kuroda which isn’t really news…..But the hot stove season has started early and with a purpose……..Onething is for certain, The NY Yankees are at a major crossroad and what ever they decide to do will dictate where they’re going to be in 3-4 years from now…….. i always felt that 2012 was their last real shot at a Championship and then the way the playoffs map roaded itself out I felt real good abouut them winning The AL Pennant…….They in my opinion can no longer highwire act themselves from the past and the future and remain relevant in the present…..That shipped sailed at Cormmeca Park four weeks ago……..Move assests and get into position for 2015

  128. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    And I love the Limbo.

    Just watch me limbo under this 189 bar.

    I can get under it w/o even breaking a sweat.

    See how low I can go. It’s easy Man !

    :)

  129. LGY November 13th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    I really hope the Yankees are in on NAPOLI. His low BA last year is a result of an unusually low and uncharacteristic BABIP vs LHP.

    He’d be great with his oppo power aiming at the short porch.

  130. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Reyes a Blue Jay on turf. Hopefully the 19 times we play them the pitchers can hold him close and a catcher, whether that be Eli Whitside, Romine or Cervelli can keep him from turning singles into triples.

  131. Pat M. November 13th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    LGY……So I can fully understand this, you rather flop Naps behind the plate over Russell Martin ????? I understand that Martin will cost more but that’s your pick ????

  132. austinmac November 13th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    If one looks at the past few seasons, finances have changed how they do business. They signed no costly free agents and made no mid season deals that cost money for three years.

    Most all of us have been on the prospect bandwagon for years. Just a few years ago the team had a supposed top flight minor league system. None of those guys panned out for the Yankees, in any event.

    Not developing players and not spending can only lead to disaster. Just a couple year’s ago we discussed how the Yankees were relying heavily on their big time pitching prospects a year or two away. Those final hurdles are monumental. It is made by select few.

    I would like to see some sign of a plan.

  133. RadioKev November 13th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    LGY November 13th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    I really hope the Yankees are in on NAPOLI. His low BA last year is a result of an unusually low and uncharacteristic BABIP vs LHP.

    He’d be great with his oppo power aiming at the short porch.
    ——–

    That mug needs a beard, says I.

  134. LGY November 13th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    LGY……So I can fully understand this, you rather flop Naps behind the plate over Russell Martin ????? I understand that Martin will cost more but that’s your pick ????

    ———-

    Is that a serious question?

    I’m taking NAPOLI over Martin, without question.

  135. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Mac-

    The PLAN is to get under 189.

    Sorry dude.

    :(

  136. Pat M. November 13th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    Knicks – 6….Lakers + 1, Cal -19…..Time to make some pocket money…….Duke -4 and I hate Duke, but then I’m not a Coke drinker put they do make money for me

  137. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    JF-

    Still on board. Read your piece on It’s About the Money.

    Don’t you also include any $6M marketing bonus that ARod receives in any given season toward the final tally at that seasons end toward the LT.

    Also how much would you say the team has to factor in for inseason trades and pickups.

    I commented this morning that with ARod, Tex, CC and if Jeter opts out and gets a QO and takes it, that the Yankees will not be able to pay Cano what he wants and factor in the other costs, 11M benefits, marketing bonuses, inseason pickups and arbitration cases plus 3 upcoming FA’s plus pay the rest of the 40 man roster.

    Hosed or not hosed! :(

  138. Jerkface November 13th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar.....e-yankees/

    Reposting this for late night people. Explains the rebates the Yankees can get under the new CBA and the teams current position for the future.

  139. Jerkface November 13th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Don’t you also include any $6M marketing bonus that ARod receives in any given season toward the final tally at that seasons end toward the LT.

    Yes, but I think its not likely A-rod meets one of those milestones in 2014. 2013 & 2016 look most likely right now.

  140. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    I wanted David Ross behind the plate and feel the Braves made a big mistake not giving him a 2nd year especially with McCann not ready till May.

  141. NYY_Girl_Penny November 13th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    LGY November 13th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    LGY……So I can fully understand this, you rather flop Naps behind the plate over Russell Martin ????? I understand that Martin will cost more but that’s your pick ????

    ———-

    Is that a serious question?

    I’m taking NAPOLI over Martin, without question.
    ====

    that’s what I was asking, is that serious ? Napoli and Martin being compared as to which is more valuable ? Joking right ? Minor League Martin’s agent will try anything to get him paid after they dropped the ball on the guaranteed 3 years thinking he should get 7/180.

    Ever read Martin comment about being a 35th round draft pick ? “In my mind I was a first round pick”.

  142. Pat M. November 13th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    LGY……..I respect your opinions beyond the spreadsheets but I see Naps a whole lot different that you and Face do……..You watch this guy day in and day out he’s going to give you heartburn

  143. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Good evening YT.

    Are you finding the answers you want in the #’s ?

    :)

  144. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    JF-

    That was fast. So if you focus on a number for opening day AAV, is it safe to say that the Yankees accountants, for 2014, would suggest setting aside the close to 11M benefits and leave, maybe a 6M cushion for inseason acquisitions- so for 2014 maybe the figure to start the season would be 189M less 17M or 172M?

  145. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    YT-

    Though they don’t lie I find little solace in numbers.

    Much more in people’s hearts and dreams.

    ;)

  146. MTU November 13th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Proximo Hilo —–>

  147. Jerkface November 13th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    That was fast. So if you focus on a number for opening day AAV, is it safe to say that the Yankees accountants, for 2014, would suggest setting aside the close to 11M benefits and leave, maybe a 6M cushion for inseason acquisitions- so for 2014 maybe the figure to start the season would be 189M less 17M or 172M?

    If A-rod has a crazy season next year it could change, but I don’t think they need to worry about the 6 million in 2014. So they have 189 – 11 million for benefits – ~5 million for the 40 man roster – wiggle room for trades.

    If Jeter accepts his option he can earn bonuses in 2014 with a gold glove, mvp finish, or ALCS/WS MVP, so they have to be careful of that too. So maybe 6 or so million for bonuses/trade worry.

    Thats 189-22 = 167

  148. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    MTU-

    Yes I found the answers in the #’s, and it doesn’t look good until some of the baby Bombers are permitted to contribute.

    The Red Sox and Marlins were able to clean house because they don’t give out any NT clauses in their contracts.

    Will FA’s look at the Yankees as a desirable place to play and live?

    BTW, can players traded in the middle of their contracts, still demand a trade?

  149. Against All Odds November 13th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    Excellent post at 8:46 mac especially the parts regarding the minor leagues. It’s been 7-8 yrs and the best pitcher to come out of the farm is Drob. I love him and hopefully he is a key piece for yrs to come but when you’re most valuable pitching asset is a relief pitcher it exposes how bad you have been at developing starters and position players.

  150. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    Thanks JF.

    So it seems that the Yankees can’t afford to take on a fourth $20M+ contract that would be in effect years 2014 thru 2016 year end.

    New Post——————–>

  151. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    I shouldn’t have used the word afford-instead the Yankees won’t go there! :(

  152. NYY_Girl_Penny November 13th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Both Alex and Tex need to take salary cuts to help the team reach their goals even if is for just one year. Can you imagine what moves we’d be able to do if Arod and Tex gave the yankees a new contract that backloaded their last 2 years.. Steve Jobs took a $1 salary.. these guys are hurting the team, shoot give them a percentage of ownsweship but somehow get these handcuffs to loosen a few notches. They can’t live up to their salaries by even performing as all star level let alone the legends they are paid for and sure as heck are not.

    If Arod wants fans to like him he’ll act. But wait, if he gives them a season for minimum pay he’ll only have 250mil in the bank instead of 270mil OH NO !!! I won’t be able to pay my electric bill.

    Team players my tush.. we fans need to be vocal about getting these bums out of NY or at least stop deadlocking us from making the team better. It’s one thing if they earned it, its another that they are playing like 5million dollar players !!!

    So frustrating !!!!!!!!!!

  153. NYY_Girl_Penny November 13th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    maybe not frustrating but disgusting.

    Maybe Hank should pay Arod for a year out of his own pocket since he is the idiot that locked him up at the fans expense. A 10 year old wouldn’t have paid Arod what he did. DUMB & DUMBERER


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