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Adams named Fall League Player of the Week

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 14, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees infield prospect David Adams has been named the Player of the Week in the Arizona Fall League — and that was before he went 2-for-4 Monday and 3-for-6 yesterday.

Still getting time at both second and third, Adams has been heating up ever since a 2-for-3 game at the end of October. Two-and-a-half weeks ago, he was hitting just .216 with three extra-base hits in 10 games, but Adams’ Fall League batting average is up to .291 with seven doubles, three homers and a triple. He’s walked nearly as many times as he’s struck out. He’s hit third in the order all season.

These Fall League samples are small, but it’s at least somewhat significant that Adams — who spent most of the past two seasons on the DL — is tied for the team lead in at-bats and hits, and that he’s getting better as the schedule progresses. This is a guy who, as much as anything, has needed playing time. And now that he’s getting it, he’s performing.

For a Yankees team that has an aging third baseman and a last-year-of-his-contract second baseman, every step in the right direction is a good sign from Adams. I have no idea whether he can be a big league regular, but he’s hitting right now, and that has to be enough to keep the Yankees attention.

Other Arizona Fall League notes:

• Adams isn’t the only one heating up in Arizona. Slade Heathcott has stayed hot since his Player of the Week award. Today’s 4-for-5 with a home run raised his Fall average to .371 with nine extra-base hits in his past seven games. He’s still rotating between center field, right field and designated hitter.

Austin Romine is the exception among the three Yankees in the Fall League. Romine had a couple of RBI today, but his batting average is still just .230 with four doubles and no homers. Of course, with Romine, getting at-bats and regular turns behind the plate might be as important as anything.

• Speaking of guys just trying to get playing time and stay healthy, Dan Burawa had another rough outing today. He got two outs, gave up two runs, walked two and allowed two hits. He’s really struggled down in Arizona where he has a 12.66 ERA. But he has a pretty big arm, and he’s coming off a mostly lost year after that spring oblique injury. Obviously these results aren’t what the Yankees want to see, but in Burawa’s case, it’s hard to make too much of them.

• Better news on Dellin Betances. His 6.30 ERA is mostly the product of two bad outings, including an ugly four-run, two-thirds-of-an-inning appearance last Tuesday. He allowed one run on two hits his last time out, but that outing also included four strikeouts and no walks through two innings.  In his past 8.1 innings — everything since his Fall debut — Betances has walked two and struck out 14.

• The strikeouts are also really building up for reliever Mark Montgomery. The top relief prospect in the Yankees system has 19 strikeouts through 10.1 innings. He walked five and allowed just five walks for a .143 opponents batting average.

Zach Nuding is the seventh and final Yankees prospect in Arizona. He’s pitching out of the rotation and most starts have been basically the same: Three or four innings, five or six hits, and two or three runs. The outings are predictably short — he’s basically throwing 60 pitches each time out — and the results have led to a 7.13 ERA.

 
 

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236 Responses to “Adams named Fall League Player of the Week”

  1. luis November 14th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Adams to 3rd base for 2013!

  2. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    luis November 14th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    In that case…You would platoon him at the DH spot i guess…Where do you put Arod? at third full time?… Also Ichiro would youRf i guess as well right?
    —————–

    I would platoon Giambi at DH; Alex will play 3b and do some DHing against LHP – that’s the role they had envisioned for Ibanez last year before the Gardner injury.

    I would be fine with Ichiro in RF

    I don’t think the Yankees are going to get Napoli or keep Martin so they might have to settle for someone like Barajas or Shoppach on 1 year contract:

    Jeter
    Ichiro
    Tex
    Cano
    Alex
    Giambi
    Granderson
    Shoppach
    Gardner

  3. Mike Ri November 14th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    Giambi ??????

  4. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    I would love it for the Yankees to give Adams a legit shot to play 3b for the Yankees this season, even if it just starts out with him playing there part time. Let him push Alex to an everyday DH role

  5. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Chip-

    I’m sure they give him a long hard look in ST.

  6. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Nunez deserves a shot atta full-time gig, before Adams. If not, Nunez should be traded. The Yanks have already stunted his growth, and the clock is ticking. His Emergency stand-in performance during the playoffs was No Fluke.

  7. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Nunez deserves a shot atta full-time gig, before Adams. If not, Nunez should be traded. The Yanks have already stunted his growth, and the clock is ticking. His Emergency stand-in performance during the playoffs was No Fluke.
    ———————–

    Nunez is a bad fielder and can only play short stop – there’s no place for him to play. Adams on the other hand can play 3b and 2b and is better defensively.

  8. UnKnown November 14th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Torii to the Tigers at least takes them out of the Hamilton running.

    Please just get Hamilton to the Bronx and I will be happy.

  9. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    Really – interest in Ricky Nolasco? Do we really want another NL East pitcher? At least Vazquez, Wright, Pavano and Vazquez again were coming off of good years when the Yankees brought them in.

  10. Mike Ri November 14th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    Please just get Hamilton to the Bronx and I will be happy.

    ——-

    i’d be happy too !

  11. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    - CHIP -
    I disagree with your scouting report on Nunez, but if your correct, then Nunez should be traded. All the Yankees are currently doing is destroying his trade value.

  12. blake November 14th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    luis says:
    November 14, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    Adams to 3rd base for 2013!

    They either need to find a role for him to trade him….he’s 25 and he’s gonna start losing value if they don’t do something

  13. jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    When Nunez has gotten steady play at SS he has been fine.

    2010 101 games .976 fld%

    2012 35 games .967

  14. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    - CHIP -
    I disagree with your scouting report on Nunez, but if your correct, then Nunez should be traded. All the Yankees are currently doing is destroying his trade value.
    ————————

    How much trade value do you believe a speedy MI with stone hands has to begin with?

  15. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    My thing is, what are the Yanks doing??? Developing a Utility IF’er ? That’s an absolute waste of time.

  16. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    When Nunez has gotten steady play at SS he has been fine.

    2010 101 games .976 fld%

    2012 35 games .967
    —————

    Right, but the Yankees don’t have an opening at SS. Adams MIGHT be able to push Alex to DH but that’s not a consideration for Nunez at SS.

  17. Mike Ri November 14th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    I agree . .Its time to find Nuney a spot or trade him !

  18. blake November 14th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    “Please just get Hamilton to the Bronx and I will be happy.”

    Sign Hamilton for 5 years and either trade Cano or plan in letting him walk. Then hope the prospects pan out….,its not a great plan but it might be their best one

  19. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    What is up fellas!

    I want to talk glass half full. Can the Toronto trade actually help us? Stay with me here.
    1. Marlin fans are probably beyond pissed. Could the Marlins grab Alex with the money they just freed up and put some water into that fire?
    2. Could this move make Cashman and co. $hit or get off the pot? Meaning they know Jays have improved and will either make big splashes by trade or trade some of our guys about to reach free agency and try to reload. Conceding the 2013 season. Maybe find a taker for All or Nothing Tex as well as Grandy?

    Guys I would look to trade even if you have to eat some salary.
    Alex
    Tex
    Guys I would look to get good young talent back.
    Grandy
    Cano
    Hughes
    Phelps
    Nova

    I am willing to bite the bullet for a year or two if they can show me that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Give me young blood to watch suck rather than old retread suck.

    This has to be the worst and deadest Yankee Nov offseason ever. Whos with me? I feel like we morphed into the Royals.

  20. jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Again, Nolasco? What the hell for? I hope that isn’t the replacement plan for Kuroda. They couldn’t find someone better for 11.5 mil? ERA last 4 years, 5.06, 4.51, 4.67, 4.48.

  21. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    My thing is, what are the Yanks doing??? Developing a Utility IF’er ? That’s an absolute waste of time.
    —————

    They were hoping that he (and Brandon Laird) could develop into a Ben Zobrist/Martin Prado type of player. A guy who can get 400 at bats playing all over the field. He doesn’t have the defensive ability to do it.

    For my money I would put him in LF.

  22. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Nunez issa Kid that the Yanks have JERKED around ala Chamberlain. They need to give him a MLB shot full-time, or deal him. And after his Oct performance, he merits one or the other.

  23. Mike Ri November 14th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Again, Nolasco? What the hell for? I hope that isn?t the replacement plan for Kuroda. They couldn?t find someone better for 11.5 mil? ERA last 4 years, 5.06, 4.51, 4.67, 4.48.

    ——————-

    Besides Haren and Greinke . .thers just not much pitching out there.

  24. Hassey November 14th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You’re my only hope

  25. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Re: David Adams
    All i see is positive stories about his production etc…
    Good thing the Yankees are keeping him down in AA.
    No excuse for him not being at least in AAA this year.
    He could be our everyday 3B this coming year…
    If the yankees are serious about getting under budget AND getting younger.
    Forget 2b…. if Cano leaves, give Corban Joseph a chance…
    What is the point of having these guys if they aren’t going to get a call when the opportunity comes.

  26. jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    Sure, we’ll take Nolasco if GIANCARLO is coming with him.

  27. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    SoS November 14th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    What is up fellas!

    I want to talk glass half full. Can the Toronto trade actually help us? Stay with me here.
    1. Marlin fans are probably beyond pissed. Could the Marlins grab Alex with the money they just freed up and put some water into that fire?
    2. Could this move make Cashman and co. $hit or get off the pot? Meaning they know Jays have improved and will either make big splashes by trade or trade some of our guys about to reach free agency and try to reload. Conceding the 2013 season. Maybe find a taker for All or Nothing Tex as well as Grandy?
    —————————

    Appreciate the optimism but:

    1. Jeff Loria doesn’t give a rat’s teet about appeasing his fan base – he didn’t with Montreal and he doesn’t with Florida.

    2. Brian doesn’t like to react to what other teams do. I don’t think he’s going to alter his plans based on Toronto getting better. I also don’t think he’ll write off the season.

  28. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    Does Giambi have a son ala Bichette or a younger brother working his way up to the big leagues? No more Old retreads. Time to get younger. This is not coaching positions we need filled. Put Alex at DH and get me Adams or someone else that can play third.

  29. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    1. Marlin fans are probably beyond pissed. Could the Marlins grab Alex with the money they just freed up and put some water into that fire?
    ___

    Even if they wanted to, Alex is NOT going to waive his NTC to go to that disaster in Miami.

  30. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Re: David Adams
    All i see is positive stories about his production etc…
    Good thing the Yankees are keeping him down in AA.
    No excuse for him not being at least in AAA this year.
    He could be our everyday 3B this coming year…
    If the yankees are serious about getting under budget AND getting younger.
    Forget 2b…. if Cano leaves, give Corban Joseph a chance…
    What is the point of having these guys if they aren’t going to get a call when the opportunity comes.
    ———————-

    I totally agree with the point that he should have finished last season at AAA.

  31. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    - MIKE -
    That $11.5 price tag is ridiculous. Kuroda got $10 Mill last season. So the Yanks are gonna Down-grade, and pay More for it. NOPE

  32. jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Mike Ri November 14th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    Again, Nolasco? What the hell for? I hope that isn?t the replacement plan for Kuroda. They couldn?t find someone better for 11.5 mil? ERA last 4 years, 5.06, 4.51, 4.67, 4.48.

    ——————-

    Besides Haren and Greinke . .thers just not much pitching out there.

    I’d rather have Phelps start for about 11 mil less.

  33. Mike Ri November 14th, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    Mike Ri November 14th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    Again, Nolasco? What the hell for? I hope that isn?t the replacement plan for Kuroda. They couldn?t find someone better for 11.5 mil? ERA last 4 years, 5.06, 4.51, 4.67, 4.48.

    ——————-

    Besides Haren and Greinke . .thers just not much pitching out there.

    ?

    I?d rather have Phelps start for about 11 mil less.

    ——————————

    Totally agree ! ….

  34. jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    I am told that Corban Joseph is a poor fielder at 2B, do David Adams is probably the only option there, unless they want to convert Nunez.

  35. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 14th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    SoS,

    I’m sure a number of folks on here would love to burn me at the stake for saying this, but I see no issue whatsoever in trying to deal a guy like Cano for a boatload of prospects and/or one or two major league ready youngsters.

    The Yankees are not going to give this guy a 10 year deal at the age of 30 or 31 or whatever he’ll be.

    They made that mistake already with ARod.

    So its probably safe to say that Cano will test free agency and likely sign elsewhere. Let him. In the meantime, deal him now or at the trade deadline to a contending team, get prospects back, and then if they want to get into the bidding war then, go for it.

  36. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Put Nuney in right! Adams at third. Whos at catcher and whats at dh.

    Chip,
    Cashman does not react in trade deadline, but I think he is always more active in the offseason. Watched Schilling go to Boston, went and got Vasquez. Not saying its always right. But I cant see him sitting on his hands after this and knowing Boston and Balt. have money to spend and Rays have alot of Aces under their sleeve.

  37. kd November 14th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    any news on adam’s ankle? 100%

    if so, he’s gotta be the back up infielder this year, save for a chavez resign

  38. Hassey November 14th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    The fat kid hawking all the homers in the CF bleachers in Arlington should be our new CF…save money that way, and go from there

  39. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    Mad Prince,
    I agree with you. Alex was a far better player at Canos age and look where hes at now. Just say no to anyone who wants more than a 5 year deal. In this case, Cano is going to get 7+. Yankees should either sell their farm to the Pirates or actually start using them. When was the last time we had a position player that was highly touted in the minors start at the big league team. Even Cano wasnt that highly touted. Melky?

  40. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    SoS November 14th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Put Nuney in right! Adams at third. Whos at catcher and whats at dh.

    Chip,
    Cashman does not react in trade deadline, but I think he is always more active in the offseason. Watched Schilling go to Boston, went and got Vasquez. Not saying its always right. But I cant see him sitting on his hands after this and knowing Boston and Balt. have money to spend and Rays have alot of Aces under their sleeve.
    ———————-

    Yankees were in on both Schilling and Javy – when Schilling went to Boston they finished the deal for Javy.

    I just think Cashman is going to stick to his plan and not be swayed by what goes on around him in the division. Remember, he still is focused on the fact that his team suffered lots of injuries and still won 95 games.

  41. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Mike Ri November 14th, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    Mike Ri November 14th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    Again, Nolasco? What the hell for? I hope that isn?t the replacement plan for Kuroda. They couldn?t find someone better for 11.5 mil? ERA last 4 years, 5.06, 4.51, 4.67, 4.48.

    ——————-

    Besides Haren and Greinke . .thers just not much pitching out there.

    ?

    I?d rather have Phelps start for about 11 mil less.

    ——————————

    Totally agree ! ….
    ———————-

    No joke, I’m telling you – Yankees are going to sign Carl Pavano.

  42. fantasygame101 November 14th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    let us see cashman perform under tight budget constraint. This is what he craves for, able to field a team with an average team’s budget.

  43. blake November 14th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    “No joke, I’m telling you – Yankees are going to sign Carl Pavano.”

    Nah they will trade too much for Matt Garza

  44. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Problem is he is doing it with 40 year olds on 1 year deals instead of the talent we have in the minors. Everyone says we have no skill prospects close, but just because they aren’t highly touted doesnt make that true. Cano was unheard of and now look…. a possible 200M player.

  45. blake November 14th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    @mlbtraderumors: Marlins Shopping Morrison; Nolasco May Be Traded http://t.co/ZcYRxqIJ #mlb

    I guess LoMo is a little interesting but he’s not turned out to be all that good so far

  46. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 14th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    I’m a GENIUS…

    Sell Cano NOW, here’s why:

    1. he plans to test free agency no matter what (that’s his right)

    2. he wants an 8-10 year deal (no thanks…we made that mistake already with ARod when he was 32)

    3. he’ll net a fantastic return of prospects and/or major league ready talent if traded to a team who anticipates contending in 2012 (Dodgers, Tigers, Giants, Angels, ChiSox, Toronto, the list goes on and on and on…TB would be a perfect fit if they want to trade one of their starters for a big hitter).

    4. if we want to engage in a bidding war for Cano, we still can next offseason when he hits free agency (and we’d have gained prospects from trading him)

    This should be a rather easy decision for the front office. The downside, obviously, is that it hurts our chances in 2013, but sometimes you have to take a step back to take two steps forward (see 2008 vs 2009).

  47. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Time to make a seasonal trade. Beane for Cashman. Get Billy Beane to trade some players for some good young talent that will help us for years to come.

  48. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    blake November 14th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    “No joke, I’m telling you – Yankees are going to sign Carl Pavano.”

    Nah they will trade too much for Matt Garza
    —————————-

    Like with Javy, Cashman will want to prove he was right about Carl when he first signed him. He tried to get him back two years ago and Pavano would be willing to pitch on the Freddy Garcia plan. Assuming he still wants to pitch again.

  49. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 14th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    for item #3 above, I meant teams who anticipate contending in 2013.

  50. mick November 14th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    let us see cashman perform under tight budget constraint. This is what he craves for, able to field a team with an average team’s budget.
    =============================
    Yeah , like it’s all his idea.
    He’s doing what he’s told, just like he did with George.

  51. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Jose Reyes may opt out of his contract after this season – as per the CBA rules, if a player is traded in the middle of a long term contract he has the option of walking away from his contract after one season.

  52. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    This is how Jeff Loria responded to reporters who wanted to talk to him about the trade:

    Not today boys. You haven’t figured it out yet? I’m not going to figure it out for you.

  53. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Soriano netted us Alex.

    1 year of Canos sevices(any team that trades for him knows he will test the market) can net us?

  54. blake November 14th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    “Jose Reyes may opt out of his contract after this season – as per the CBA rules, if a player is traded in the middle of a long term contract he has the option of walking away from his contract after one season.”

    My guess is he does then

  55. chicken little November 14th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    I doubt Jose Reyes will opt out of his contract regardless of how upset he may be. True, there always is “one dumb owner,” but if you were Reyes would you opt out in the hope that “one dumb owner” pays you at least something close to what the contract calls for? If Reyes is unhappy, he may try what Cecil Fielder did before the 97′ season — demand a trade and (unlike what happened with Fielder) hope the Jays trade him.

  56. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    blake November 14th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    “Jose Reyes may opt out of his contract after this season – as per the CBA rules, if a player is traded in the middle of a long term contract he has the option of walking away from his contract after one season.”

    My guess is he does then
    ————————–

    I should say, I know that was the rule, not sure if it is any more.

    But if it is, would Reyes walk away from that much money and take a chance hitting the market again?

  57. blake November 14th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    “But if it is, would Reyes walk away from that much money and take a chance hitting the market again?”

    Sure…..he probably isn’t wild about Toronto and that turf…..and have you seen how many teams need SSs?

  58. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Jose Reyes may opt out of his contract after this season – as per the CBA rules, if a player is traded in the middle of a long term contract he has the option of walking away from his contract after one season
    ___

    If that is he most likely will.
    Taxes in Canada are almost 50%.
    If he got a deal for more than half of his current one, he would have to consider it.
    Would be just in time for Jeter to move off SS too.

  59. Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Jose reyes cannot opt out. That provisiion is no longer part of the cba and the team has to fail to trade him first under that rule anyways.

  60. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Who knew that was a provision in the old CBA? I never even heard of a player doing that.

  61. blake November 14th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Oh well then nevermind

  62. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    That so-called Trade, is exactly the kinda deal Commish Kuhn woulda put the Kibosh on. Of course, the Yanks\George being involved, had a Lot to do with Kuhn stepping in back then.

  63. blake November 14th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    @eboland11: Yankees,while seeing Hunter as good fit, never made offer.Haven’t offered any pos players on market as yet.Focus right now remains Kuroda/Mo

  64. jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
    Jose Reyes may opt out of his contract after this season – as per the CBA rules, if a player is traded in the middle of a long term contract he has the option of walking away from his contract after one season
    ___

    If that is he most likely will.
    Taxes in Canada are almost 50%.
    If he got a deal for more than half of his current one, he would have to consider it.
    Would be just in time for Jeter to move off SS too.

    First, it’s not as if he is paying 0% taxes in the USA. Second, Florida was only a state/local tax shelter. I don’t know if canadian players pay something similar to Canada, but if so it won’t be anything like half his salary.

  65. Against All Odds November 14th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    mick November 14th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    let us see cashman perform under tight budget constraint. This is what he craves for, able to field a team with an average team’s budget.
    =============================
    Yeah , like it’s all his idea.
    He’s doing what he’s told, just like he did with George.

    ———————————————–

    Cashman has wanted to show ppl for yrs he’s not a checkbook GM. He’s in complete lock step with Hal.

  66. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Jose reyes cannot opt out. That provisiion is no longer part of the cba and the team has to fail to trade him first under that rule anyways.
    —————

    Thanks for the clarification.

  67. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    blake November 14th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    @eboland11: Yankees,while seeing Hunter as good fit, never made offer.Haven’t offered any pos players on market as yet.Focus right now remains Kuroda/Mo
    ————–

    Cashman moves about as quickly as a tortoise in a glue trap.

  68. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    If Kuroda leaves and Pettitte doesn’t come back, Nolasco or someone like him in essential. Plus, it is the Yankees favorite one year left on his contract situation. I don’t say he is good, but he is likely better than Warren etc. Also, the Marlins would take one of us in a trade for him.

  69. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Cashman doing his version of “3 Card Monty”. Ask him if the Yanks are interested inna player, and he will tell you they are concentrating their efforts elsewhere. Bottom Line = SPENDING NO MONEY.

  70. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Cashman spends all of his day thinking about Kuroda and Mo. Every few days he calls one of their agents. How do you expect more from him than that?

    Remember, it’s early yet. At least for the Yankees. It seems to be time for other teams.

  71. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Haven’t offered any pos players on market as yet.

    ========

    Hasnt Cash gotten the memo? WS is over. The market is open for business! Fetal position is no longer needed. Game on!

  72. Irreverent Discourse November 14th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    The only way Reyes is going to opt out of his contract is if he is AL MVP this year.

    Otherwise there is no chance anyone will pay him more than $20mil/year for the next… any years.

  73. jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Cashman is mostly stuck until he knows what is going to happen with Kuroda/Pettitte. Those two basically are holding up everything. It’s not like there are great alternatives, so he can’t push them either.

  74. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Why is it once again we are handcuffed by our own players? Pettitte does it every year. Rivera said he wants to play. Work out a contract. I get they have to wait on Kuroda, but we need OFFENSE.

  75. Nick in SF November 14th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    “Haven’t offered any pos players on market as yet.”

    We have enough pos players as it is!

    Wait, that’s short for “position”? Nevermind.

  76. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    lol. Nick.
    Show me a pos player and Ill show you a good clubhouse guy. Did they ever allow candy back in the Yankee locker rooms? Maybe they should sweeten the pot for these free agents.

  77. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    ZING

  78. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    We already have several position players. What is the problem?

  79. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Cashman was stuck until the 3 Yanks turned down the QO. He can act to fill positions. The pitching side with Pettitte\Kuroda being ??? is another story. I hope that trollop is Not the hang-up.

  80. Ys Guy November 14th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    im not a jeffrey loria fan but i wanted to clear up a falsehood that i have heard and read several times today;
    jeff loria did not sell off montreal’s players and then dump the franchise.

    loria bought the team after the 1999 season.
    the team did have lots of talent:

    rondell white was traded to the cubs the following season
    orlando cabrera played for the expos till the trade deadline of his walk year, 2004 then was traded to bos
    vladamir guerrero played for the expos till he became a free agent after the 2003 season
    javier vazquez pitched for the expos till the end of 2003 and was traded to nyy before his walk year.

    before he took over the team had been dismantled post 1994 and attendance was already in a nosedive and the team was close to becoming a ward of the city of montreal and the province of quebec.

    otherwise he’s a dirtbag but he’s not guilty on that count for the record.

  81. jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Well, they don’t have to wait to sign Melky for RF…

  82. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    CC
    Hughes
    Nova
    Phelps
    ???

    We don’t need Nolasco?

  83. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Well, they don’t have to wait to sign Melky for RF…
    ————-

    I think there’s a better chance of them signing me to play RF.

    Honestly, I think Cashman would be fine with Ibanez and a RH platoon bat (Hairston, Gomes, Jones) to play RF this year.

  84. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Don’t rule out Andruw Jones coming back here. I could easily see Brian attributing last year to a fluke and still selling himself on the idea that Jones can play the field and hit LHP.

  85. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Cashman is like that old lady in line at midnight to get the Black Friday specials at Walmart. Doors finally open, and she gets trampled by the stampede.

  86. Ys Guy November 14th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    2 things i left out:

    loria bought 24% of the team and got the rest when the other owners declined cash calls.

    and i left american idle off the list
    carl pavano played for the expose through 2004 then was traded in his walk year to fla for cliff floyd.

  87. jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
    CC
    Hughes
    Nova
    Phelps
    ???

    We don’t need Nolasco?

    No, it would still be stupid to spend 11.5 mil (or most of it) for Nolasco.

  88. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Cashman is like that old lady in line at midnight to get the Black Friday specials at Walmart. Doors finally open, and she gets trampled by the stampede.
    ————–

    Incorrect.

    Cashman is the guy who sits home on Black Friday and then waits to see what’s left after everyone’s done Christmas shopping.

  89. Nick in SF November 14th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    They allowed candy again after they drafted Little Dante and he said “Pretty please, Uncle Joe???”

  90. Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Here is the rule from old CBA if anyone is interested:

    C. Right to Require Assignment of Contract
    (1) Eligibility
    Any Player who has 5 or more years of Major League service at
    the time of the assignment of his contract and whose contract was
    executed prior to October 23, 2006 and covers the next succeeding
    season, may elect, at the conclusion of the season following the
    assignment, to require that his contract be assigned to another Club.
    If the Player, however, subsequently signs a contract with the
    assignee Club, the Player shall not be eligible to require that Club to
    assign his contract if the contract executed with the assignee Club
    covers the next succeeding season. A Player who requires the
    assignment of his contract pursuant to this Section C shall not be
    entitled to receive a Moving Allowance.

    (c) Free Agency if Assignment Not Made. If the Player’s
    Club fails to assign his contract, as set forth in this Section C, on
    or before March 15, the Player shall become a free agent imme-diately eligible to negotiate a contract with any Club without any
    restrictions or qualifications.

  91. Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    That entire section is gone from the new CBA, just to clarify.

  92. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Well, they don’t have to wait to sign Melky for RF

    =======

    Everytime I see Melkys name and the possibility of him coming back. All I can think about is the song what is love, baby dont hurt me, dont hurt me, no mo, and Cano + Melky bobbing their heads to it.

  93. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Sizemore in RF would be better, whether part or full-time.

  94. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    That entire section is gone from the new CBA, just to clarify.
    ———————-

    Bad job from the players conceding that.

  95. Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    I am not a tax lawyer, but my understanding of taxes for baseball players is that they can claim income for their state of residence, which Jose Reyes will retain as Florida. Then each game check is taxed for local payroll/state/country taxes. So 81 of Reyes gamechecks will have Canadian taxes removed, but not the full amount of canadian taxes. So he would have less than 50% removed from 50% of his pay.

  96. Ys Guy November 14th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    and just for the record, im convinced that the unnamed jet’s players who trashed tebow did so with the blessing of or at the urging of the head coach.

    and the DN should have been more accurate and referred to “unnamed defensive player” trashing tebow to “unnamed defensive player who was torched by tebow in the denver game last season”.

  97. jacksquat November 14th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    Sizemore in RF would be better, whether part or full-time.

    I’m fine with Sizemore for a minor league deal, spring training invite, etc., but not to be counted on to fill a position.

  98. Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    And while I am not a tax lawyer regarding the income tax bits, I know with certainty that the players are taxed for each game based on the country/state they are played in. So Reyes would not have Canadian taxes levied against his entire salary. That came up when people were talking about Cliff Lee and NY vs TX taxes

  99. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Chip November 14th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
    DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Cashman is like that old lady in line at midnight to get the Black Friday specials at Walmart. Doors finally open, and she gets trampled by the stampede.
    ————–

    Incorrect.

    Cashman is the guy who sits home on Black Friday and then waits to see what’s left after everyone’s done Christmas shopping.

    =========

    I didnt know Goodwill and the Salvation Army had Black Friday. Some peoples trash is others treasure.
    Cashmans favorite cartoon growing up was the Tortoise and hare. He has it memorized forward and backwards. Believes tortoise always wins in the end.

  100. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    No way I wanna count on Ibanez in RF as a platoon. NO WAY

  101. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Here’s the question for the Jays – you KNOW Reyes isn’t going to be happy and we’ve seen what happens with an unhappy Reyes from his time with the Mets – if you’re AA do you immediately turn around and try to deal Jose?

  102. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    This just in!
    Bubba Crosby will be our right fielder. He will share the duties with Shane Spenser. Sometimes confused with Shame.

  103. Ys Guy November 14th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    sizemore is great!

    but who’s gonna play the other 95 games?

  104. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 14th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    TRADE CANO NOW WHILE WE STILL CAN!!!

    IF NOT NOW, AT THE TRADE DEADLINE!!!

  105. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    I do Not believe you take on a contract of Reyes size, and Hope you can trade it\him. You either got something Immediately ready to go, or your planning on his being on your team. Reyes remains in Toronto.

  106. Against All Odds November 14th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Chip November 14th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    That entire section is gone from the new CBA, just to clarify.
    ———————-

    Bad job from the players conceding that.

    —————–

    Looks like the players conceded a lot in the new CBA. I’m still trying to understand what they received in this negotiation.

  107. Irreverent Discourse November 14th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Chip – Yes? You have to try to deal him, or he has to be amazing for a lot of years. Unfortunately the only sucker that would trade for that contract was him.

    Playing 81 games on that crap surface in Toronto is going to be a disaster. Reyes couldn’t stay healthy playing on real grass/dirt fields.

  108. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Jacksquat,

    From the Yankees perspective, Nolasco is for one year and could be obtained for principally money. He must be compared with the free agents who would sign for one year. He is likely better than them, but I agree at a greater cost.

    I think I would simply see some sign they are working to fill the enormous holes.

  109. Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Looks like the players conceded a lot in the new CBA. I’m still trying to understand what they received in this negotiation.

    Because the CBA gutted spending on IFA/Draft which means more money needs to be spent in free agency, aka where most of the MLBPA makes money. They basically cut off their nose to spite their face

  110. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Irreverent Discourse November 14th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Chip – Yes? You have to try to deal him, or he has to be amazing for a lot of years. Unfortunately the only sucker that would trade for that contract was him.

    Playing 81 games on that crap surface in Toronto is going to be a disaster. Reyes couldn’t stay healthy playing on real grass/dirt fields.
    —————-

    ID – between the surface and his general mood I would think Reyes is good for about 65 games next year.

    He’ll go into full pout mode and nurse a hamstring for the majority of the season at the team’s minor league complex in Florida.

    They could try to work out a deal with the Dodgers – I don’t think he would be upset playing in SoCal.

  111. blake November 14th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    I thought AA might try and eat some money and flip Reyes in a deal for Upton. …..but he traded his other two SSs to Miami

  112. Nick in SF November 14th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    I’m not convinced that the players even had a representative at the negotiations. They might have been chilling out at the Fan Cave that day.

  113. Against All Odds November 14th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Looks like the players conceded a lot in the new CBA. I’m still trying to understand what they received in this negotiation.

    Because the CBA gutted spending on IFA/Draft which means more money needs to be spent in free agency, aka where most of the MLBPA makes money. They basically cut off their nose to spite their face

    —————————–

    A number of ppl brought that up and if that’s the case then smh. Those guys in the draft/IFA are the next stars of the game. Does some 18-21 yr old getting 5 million bonus mean a guy like Hunter would have gotten 8 mil a yr instead of 13

  114. Warning Track Power November 14th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    T. Hunter’s deal just ruined the Giants front office plans to re-sign Angel Pagan at a low, low
    price.
    Pagan’s agent has probably already sent Hunter flowers and congratulations for setting
    the market.

  115. Ys Guy November 14th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    ill take nolasco…

    yanks get : nolasco
    marlins get: arod +84M

    …then you release nolasco…

  116. Against All Odds November 14th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    ID – between the surface and his general mood I would think Reyes is good for about 65 games next year.

    ——————-

    You and Francesa are on the same page but I’m not sure if that’s a good or bad thing. ;)

  117. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    SoS November 14th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    This just in!
    Bubba Crosby will be our right fielder. He will share the duties with Shane Spenser. Sometimes confused with Shame.

    ————————–

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    One thing I know for sure: Shane Spencer is in our price range.

    Do yo’ thang, Cash!

  118. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Prices of players are going up and not down. Granderson and Cano’s salaries are pretty favorable. Brian, wake up and see what you can get for them.

  119. UnKnown November 14th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Phil Hughes ?@PhilHughes65
    Sister and Brother in law #GreatTrip pic.twitter.com/5lHtw2Uq

    ———

    Another Yankee with an offseason beard, Oh Boy…

    Also his Brother in Law looks to have out-kicked his coverage. Phil’s sister is pretty good looking.

  120. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    YF,

    I think you are exaggerating Nolasco’s lack of value. If Kuroda and Pettitte don’t come back they desparately need someone who can pitch 200 semi-crappy innings. Of course, a pitcher throwing 200 good innings would be nice, but they seem to want to get paid for more than one year. He may be the best there is. Only other fifth starter option on the roster is Warren. Phelps a no.4 and Nova a no. 3?

    Good grief, I hope Kuroda comes back.

  121. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS

    Red Sox talked about reyes/johnson trade w/marlins. But john henry said he had no idea “the whole team was available”

  122. CompassRosy November 14th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Some info on tax rates, jurisdictions, etc as related to MLB….

    http://tinyurl.com/aqj9tqm

    However, what makes it more interesting than the average trade isn’t simply the tax rates of the countries, states and cities involved. Nor is it the effective state and city tax rates each team will experience — based on where they play spring training, the rates of their home states and cities, the rates of all other jurisdictions in which they will play and the amount of time spent in these jurisdictions. Per the effective rates, the difference between Florida and Ontario is reduced, but still substantial, since Florida has no state tax.

    As I’ve explained here before, the specific state and city tax rates matter to an extent, but because of how the jock tax works, the effective rate is more telling. It’s for this reason that the AL West may soon become a big area of interest among free agents: it now features three teams without state or local taxes in the Astros, Rangers and Mariners. The Astros also spend spring training in the non-taxed state of Florida.

    Even with the state and provincial tax ramifications, what piqued my interest the most with this deal is how Canada disallows certain allowable deductions in the United States.

  123. Warning Track Power November 14th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Unknown-
    Best laugh of the day, courtesy of you.

  124. PacoDooley November 14th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    MLBTR did a chat that just ended – I asked whether Cano could be traded – the opinion was a flat out ‘no’. So there is one informed opinion from someone that just returned from the GM meetings.

  125. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    blake November 14th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    I thought AA might try and eat some money and flip Reyes in a deal for Upton. …..but he traded his other two SSs to Miami
    ————————-

    Deal him to the Royals for Alcedis Escobar, Alex Gordon and Billy Butler

  126. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Against All Odds November 14th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    ID – between the surface and his general mood I would think Reyes is good for about 65 games next year.

    ——————-

    You and Francesa are on the same page but I’m not sure if that’s a good or bad thing
    ———————

    Reyes is a tremendous player and I wouldn’t want my team to get within 100 miles of him. He’s a petulant child.

  127. Warning Track Power November 14th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Let’s all guess just how many games Reyes will actually play on “turf” in 2013.
    Knowing his history of hamstring injuries, I’ll say that Reyes will land on the DL
    at least 2 times during the season.
    He might posses a lot of talent, but he’s not worth the price.

  128. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Even if Kuroda and Mo are priorities… how do you let that stop you from doing anything else? Don’t they have a budget mapped out? They could at least benchmark the money that it would realistically take to resign those guys and try to make other moves.

    …I know, I know.. it’s early.

    But sometimes..it gets late early.

  129. mick November 14th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    This is how Jeff Loria responded to reporters who wanted to talk to him about the trade:

    Not today boys. You haven’t figured it out yet? I’m not going to figure it out for you.
    =================================

    Here’s what happened:

    http://nomaas.org/2012/11/stop.....bout-fans/

  130. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Screw Reyes… let’s get DAVID WRIGHT.

    (It worked for LGY, it’s my turn this year.)

  131. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Even if Kuroda and Mo are priorities… how do you let that stop you from doing anything else? Don’t they have a budget mapped out? They could at least benchmark the money that it would realistically take to resign those guys and try to make other moves.

    …I know, I know.. it’s early.

    But sometimes..it gets late early.
    ——————

    I agree – it’s called “multitasking” and Brian should embrace it.

    Though I also agree with the person who earlier said that it seems like once again the Yankees are being held hostage by the desires of their core guys. Andy and Mo are tremendous Yankees who never do their deals quickly and Brian needs to know if he’s going to have them in the fold so he can move on to other things.

  132. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Looks like the players conceded a lot in the new CBA. I’m still trying to understand what they received in this negotiation.

    ___

    How about their outrageous salaries?
    They are employees and unlike football, they get ALL of their contract no matter what…

  133. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Looks like the players conceded a lot in the new CBA. I’m still trying to understand what they received in this negotiation.

    ___

    How about their outrageous salaries?
    They are employees and unlike football, they get ALL of their contract no matter what…
    ———-

    They had that in the last CBA too though, it’s not like it was a new provision.

  134. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 14th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    PacoDooley,

    There’s zero reason to keep Cano if he’s going to walk after 2013, which he will if he’s trying to A) test the market and B) get a 8-10 year deal.

    Trade him and get something back now and then if they want to see where the bidding goes on him, re-sign him then or look elsewhere.

    Its something of a game but we stand to gain more in the long term by trading him now and getting a return of prospects than we do by hanging on to him and just getting one draft pick.

  135. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    They had that in the last CBA too though, it’s not like it was a new provision.

    ___

    My point is that they get enough already.

  136. blake November 14th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    “Deal him to the Royals for Alcedis Escobar, Alex Gordon and Billy Butler”

    Why would KC do that?

  137. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    They had that in the last CBA too though, it’s not like it was a new provision.

    ___

    My point is that they get enough already.
    ————

    Yes but in a negotiation when you have stuff that’s good you don’t give it away for nothing.

  138. Warning Track Power November 14th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Loria said Wednesday that dumping veteran players was the right response to how the season went.

    “We have to get better,” Loria said, according to CBSSports.com. “We can’t finish in last place. We finished in last place. That’s unacceptable. We have to take a new course.”

    He was also asked if clearing the decks was a precursor to trying to sell the team.

    “Absolutely not,” Loria said, according to the website. “That’s more stupidity.”

  139. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Trade him and get something back now and then if they want to see where the bidding goes on him, re-sign him then or look elsewhere.

    ___

    This is a perfect example of the Yankee org having no direction.
    There is the no extensions theory
    There is the we need to stay under 189 M
    There is the Lets get younger but never use our prospects
    There is the lest charge outrageous ticket prices and concession prices but not put the best product out there
    There is the idea they like on base percentage, but seem completely focused on homeruns

  140. mick November 14th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Maybe Loria is clearing the deck for Arod’s contract.

  141. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    “We have to get better,” Loria said, according to CBSSports.com. “We can’t finish in last place. We finished in last place. That’s unacceptable. We have to take a new course.”

    _____

    UMMMMM they are going to be in last again!

  142. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    “We have to get better,” Loria said, according to CBSSports.com. “We can’t finish in last place. We finished in last place. That’s unacceptable. We have to take a new course.”

    _____

    UMMMMM they are going to be in last again!
    ————-

    And he’ll blast fans for not showing up. “How can I pay for players if no one is showing up at the games.”

  143. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Maybe Loria is clearing the deck for Arod’s contract.

    ____

    Even if that was true, no way Alex waives his NTC to go to that ‘team’ with that ‘owner’. Maybe if they didnt just trade away almost all of their talent.

  144. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Loria is so full of crap. Here is a wild thought….. Maybe the team needs more than one season to grow into a championship team?

  145. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Chip – I don’t buy that they’re being held hostage by anything, tbh.. Last year Brian was ‘waiting’ on Andy but it ended up working out in the Yankees favor when Cash got to look at him and go ‘dude, no money left in the budget, sorry!’ So I’m pretty sure the players know what time it is.

    Brian has an idea of how much he’d spend on both.. I’d think..

    I wonder which chip will fall first, though. Do the Yanks get Kuroda locked up early, or do we see a FA position player set the tone for the rest of the off-season?

  146. Against All Odds November 14th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    UMMMMM they are going to be in last again!

    ————————–

    Not only last but also the worst team in baseball

  147. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Players get a lot. Owners get more. And are never negotiating their salary in the public forum so we can judge them all accordingly.

    Loria is my exhibit A for why players should take these jackasses for all the money they can.

  148. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    I wonder which chip will fall first, though. Do the Yanks get Kuroda locked up early, or do we see a FA position player set the tone for the rest of the off-season?

    ___

    My bet is on Raul Ibanez 1YR/3M

  149. mick November 14th, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Even if that was true, no way Alex waives his NTC to go to that ‘team’ with that ‘owner’. Maybe if they didnt just trade away almost all of their talent.
    ===================================
    He would love getting away from all the nonsense in NY.
    His ego would be flattered and he would think he could carry that team.
    He will be booed mercilessly in NY.

  150. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Players get a lot. Owners get more. And are never negotiating their salary in the public forum so we can judge them all accordingly.

    ___

    They are the OWNERS. They SHOULD get more. I dont get a higher salary than my CEO. I dont get more stock options. I dont get more vacation. I dont get better benefits.

    This idea the players and owners should get equal share is ludicrous

  151. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    That being said, Loria shouldnt be allowed to own a baseball team.

  152. SoS November 14th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    I think its time for Cashman to hire Jonah hill to handle the negotiations with Mo and Kuroda. That will free Cashmans busy time to FOCUS on landing us some Royals, Padres and Pirates players.

  153. Chip November 14th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    That being said, Loria shouldnt be allowed to own a baseball team.
    ————-

    And yet he’s been allowed to own two.

  154. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Shame,

    Inactivity because of two questionable returning pitchers is quite odd. Other teams have questions as well, but they answer them in order of availability.

    I very much believe the truth is what I have said. They want to wait until the market is played out, see who is left and sign them cheaply.

    Remember, the offense is fine. Never mind is was woeful during the latter part of the year and they lost 45+ homers in Swisher and Martin. But, all is fine. Trust me. I am a GM.

  155. hardwired7 November 14th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    I’ve been a Heathcott fan since the draft, when I read how he came back ridiculously early from ACL replacement surgery to play for his high school baseball team in their state championship game: they won, in large part thanks to him.

    He was a bit of a reach considering his somewhat sketchy background and knee and shoulder issues at such a young age, but when you can pair physical gifts with a big heart I think it’s worth the risk.

  156. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    And yet he’s been allowed to own two.

    ___

    And its just another in a line of pathetic BS from Selig. Loria used to pocket the money he got from the luxury tax instead of spending it on his roster. He tricked Miami into paying for his stadium. They should ask for their money back.

  157. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    This idea the players and owners should get equal share is ludicrous

    ——————

    Well… I’m glad I never said that then. Because I agree with you that they shouldn’t get the same share.

  158. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Remember, the offense is fine. Never mind is was woeful during the latter part of the year and they lost 45+ homers in Swisher and Martin. But, all is fine. Trust me. I am a GM.

    ___

    BEcause thats what we need…. more homerun or bust players.

    How bout we find a right fielder who can hit above .255 and bring some power? I heard this guy Torii Hunter was a FA. Oops.

  159. PacoDooley November 14th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 14th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
    PacoDooley,

    There’s zero reason to keep Cano if he’s going to walk after 2013, which he will if he’s trying to A) test the market and B) get a 8-10 year deal.
    ———————————————-

    I certainly understand this logic – I thought that they would look at possible trades – I was simply pointing out that someone that worries about MLB trades as part of their work life and has been at the GM meetings sees a Cano trade as a flat out impossibility. I forgot which writer was running the chat today – need to go look…

  160. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Loria used to pocket the money he got from the luxury tax instead of spending it on his roster. He tricked Miami into paying for his stadium. They should ask for their money back.

    ————————

    If he doesn’t owe the players anything… he certainly doesn’t owe the fans anything.

  161. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    I heard this guy Torii Hunter was a FA. Oops.

    ———————-

    He was demanding to much money!!!!! How dare he!!!!!!!!!

  162. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    I think we still have the potential to win the World Series. We need balance.

    Gardner healthy is a start.
    Resign Ichiro.
    Jeter hitting.

    Then your power in Cano and Tex (hopefully alex since he isnt getting traded, and granderson since he wont be traded either.

    Get on base and make things happen.

  163. blake November 14th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    The Yankees won’t trade Cano and they won’t sign him early…..so they’ll either give him 200 million next winter or they’ll let him walk for a draft pick…..it sucks by its the reality of how the Yankees operate…..then if they sign him they’ll complain about how his contract is weighing them down 5 years from now

  164. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    If he doesn’t owe the players anything… he certainly doesn’t owe the fans anything.

    ___

    I already said Loria goes against the case i was making. I said he should NEVER be allowed to continuing owning a baseball team….. But most owners actually care about their franchise and fans and the less wealthy ones at least try to draft and develop well.

  165. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 14th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    ac1,

    This is a perfect example of the Yankee org having no direction.
    There is the no extensions theory
    There is the we need to stay under 189 M
    There is the Lets get younger but never use our prospects
    There is the lest charge outrageous ticket prices and concession prices but not put the best product out there
    There is the idea they like on base percentage, but seem completely focused on homeruns

    ——————————–

    Trading Cano is a great business decision right now, simply put.

    Do you want to see NYY give him a 10 year contract worth $200M?

    We do need to get younger, no question, and we also need to deepen our farm. Cano can help with both, himself being on the wrong side of 30.

    One step backwards (trade Cano and be thin at 2B), two steps forward (deeper farm and/or upper tier starting pitcher added to rotation).

    Easy breezy. I love Cano, but I don’t love the massive contract some team will be dumb enough to give him.

  166. Benny Blanco November 14th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Remember, the offense is fine. Never mind is was woeful during the latter part of the year and they lost 45+ homers in Swisher and Martin. But, all is fine. Trust me. I am a GM.

    =================

    Remember when we were complaining about homerun or bust offense? I would much rather get guys who can hit for contact.

  167. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    The Yankees won’t trade Cano and they won’t sign him early…..so they’ll either give him 200 million next winter or they’ll let him walk for a draft pick…..it sucks by its the reality of how the Yankees operate…..then if they sign him they’ll complain about how his contract is weighing them down 5 years from now

    ____

    Again the mixed messages. Get under 189M but dont change how we run the team. Their stance on extensions is terrible and wont work in this new era of spending less.

  168. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    If he doesn’t owe the players anything… he certainly doesn’t owe the fans anything.

    ___

    I already said Loria goes against the case i was making.
    —————-

    You realize he’s not an exception and is the rule, right?

    Owners don’t like to win. They like to make money. If MLB wanted owners that actually wanted to spend money to win instead of just making money, they’d let Cuban own a team.

  169. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    And there are no such thing as ‘less wealthy’ owners.

    They are all rich before they own a team, and have multiple revenue streams that continue to fund their wealth outside of whatever team they own.

    The very purpose of revenue sharing is to redistribute wealth amongst the wealthy.

    Deadspin basically said it all.

  170. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Owners don’t like to win. They like to make money. If MLB wanted owners that actually wanted to spend money to win instead of just making money, they’d let Cuban own a team.

    ___

    I half agree. Winning brings more money than losing. So yes i believe some want to win. No one would ever pull the crap Loria has now 3 times. The Sox came close but truthfully in their case it wasnt bad business. Fans will still come to the games and they will get better. Miami not so much.

  171. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    For the record i think Cuban SHOULD get to own a team. In fact, I love his attitude. Reminds me of George Steinbrenner. I hope if they ever sell the Yankees he takes first crack at it.

  172. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    @MikeSilvermanBB

    Didn’t realize @Giancarlo818 also changed Twitter profile picture to plain black shirt, out of #Marlins uniform. He’s pissed off, all right.

  173. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Winning brings more money than losing.

    ——————

    Read the now infamous Deadspin article, ac.

    This was proven to be completely untrue.

    It’s very easy to lose and pocket TONS of money.

  174. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    “The idea that publicly-subsidized stadiums are a great economic boon to a city has been put to rest by studies over and over again.

    The deal for Yankee Stadium, conducted through political back channels, was notable in how boldly it fleeced taxpayers. In order to finance the stadium with low-interest, tax-free bonds, the stadium needed to be for public use, not for private enterprise. Thus, the City claimed ownership of the stadium and simply rented it to the Yankees…for $0 rent.

    In order to secure public subsidies for the Yankees, the City manipulated the assessment value of the stadium and claimed that 1,000 new permanent jobs would be created. According to a report by Assemblyman Richard Brodsky, the actual number of permanent new jobs was 15. The deal left taxpayers on the hook for up to $850 million and was such a blatant use of public funds for private gain that the IRS outlawed any further such deals. A summation of the Yankees’ abuse of taxpayers can be found here:

    http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/24561.html.”

  175. ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    I’ll read it, but I cannot believe there are no owners like George that care about winning AND profit.

  176. blake November 14th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    “Again the mixed messages. Get under 189M but dont change how we run the team. Their stance on extensions is terrible and wont work in this new era of spending less.”

    It’s ridiculous and inefficient and dumb but it is what it is and how they continue to run themselves

  177. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 14th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    ac1,

    even if we signed Cano to an extension, say, before last season, he’d still be asking for $18-20M/year. So the Yankees’s extension policy is really irrelevant.

    As soon as he hired Boras, the Yankees should have been shopping him.

  178. blake November 14th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Cuban wants to win but he’s smart and wouldn’t waste money….he’d try to stay under the luxury tax too but he’d also try to get max value from all 189 million dollars…..

  179. blake November 14th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Bowden says he’s heard the royals may be more willing to deal Myers than Gordon….please get him

  180. Against All Odds November 14th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    .then if they sign him they’ll complain about how his contract is weighing them down 5 years from now

    ———————–

    Hopefully 5 yrs from now Cano is no longer the focal point of the team.

  181. blake November 14th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    “Hopefully 5 yrs from now Cano is no longer the focal point of the team.”

    Arod shouldn’t be either

  182. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 14th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    As for the Yankees’ currently minimized ability to do much in terms of spending, that is their own fault. Giving guys like Teixeira and ARod the kind of $$$ they did was simply a poor business decision. Now they are paying for it two-fold.

    I like the concept of payroll flexibility but its not something that is achieved overnight.

    Just because the Yankees can spend doesn’t mean they should. Honestly, what Free Agent is on the market now that you really think would be worth dropping the kind of big dollars they are asking for? Hamilton? Addiction and asking price = no thanks. Greinke? Maybe the one guy to seriously consider, but not at anything above 5 or 6 years which is less than he is seeking, therefore not realistic.

    We would be sitting pretty right now if our farm system stars were decimated by injury or suddenly inconsistent (Banuelos/Bettances). No reason we couldn’t spin them off for someone.

    And the Pineda thing hurts, but that’s the risk you play with and unfortunately we were on the losing end, so time to move on and deal with it.

  183. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 14th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    why are we talking about Mark Cuban?

    that guy is the most obnoxious jackwagon owner ever. He’s like the Ozzie Guillen of owners.

    no thanks.

  184. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    ac1 November 14th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    I’ll read it, but I cannot believe there are no owners like George that care about winning AND profit.

    —————–

    They are still in the minority (assuming they exist) and even if they did truly care about winning before profits at the end of the day their voices aren’t getting heard because the owners vote collectively for initiatives implemented in the game.

  185. Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    False, cuban owns. He spends, he always looks to put a winning product on the field/hard top/whatever, and he is very studious as to how to win a particular sport. So his Mavs put lots of focus on defensive scheming and advanced analytics while he spends the money on FA & draft.

    Cuban in the MLB would be awesome.

  186. blake November 14th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    “that guy is the most obnoxious jackwagon owner ever. He’s like the Ozzie Guillen of owners.”

    No he’s not

  187. blake November 14th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Cuban is the smartest guy in most any room he’s in… I think he’d love all the analytical stuff in baseball today

  188. Shame Spencer November 14th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    I love Cuban too, particularly because he’s the last of a dying breed.

    Can we all agree Cuban is the exception and not the rule?

  189. blake November 14th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    @EricFisherSBJ: Levine also said no changes to offseasons plan amid flurry of other deals, signings: “we feel good. The tortoise usually wins the race.”

  190. blake November 14th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    Boras is on mlbradio now

  191. Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    The tortoise usually wins the race.

    Unless the race is to get anywhere fast, eat a head of lettuce in under an hour, win a baseball game, or anything else a tortoise will never do well

  192. blake November 14th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Boras :” no team has ever won a title with a closer over 40 “.

  193. Against All Odds November 14th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    blake November 14th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    “Hopefully 5 yrs from now Cano is no longer the focal point of the team.”

    Arod shouldn’t be either

    ————————

    True.

    And I hope ppl don’t take that the wrong way. 5 yrs from now I hope Robbie is still a 30 100 guy or at worse 25 90. But by then he shouldn’t be the one to have to carry the team.

  194. Against All Odds November 14th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    The tortoise usually wins the race

    ———————

    I guess this is the don’t panic or overreact approach.

  195. pat November 14th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Boras :” no team has ever won a title with a closer over 40 “.

    That’s the great thing about baseball. You see something you’ve never seen before all the time.

  196. blake November 14th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    No team has ever had a 40 year old closer named Mariano Rivera either

  197. Yankee Trader November 14th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Good evening.

    Blake-

    Looks like Boras can’t find a 3 year deal for Soriano to his liking and wants the Yankees to bite for 2 years.

    I missed all posts after 9:30. What Cano deal was realistic?

    Any news on Fujikama, who today became a free agent?

  198. G. Love November 14th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    For the record, I actually like Nolasco. He doesn’t walk anyone & his WHIP is usually quite low. He could be a good back end of the rotation guy for us.

    As long as they don’t trade Phelps or Nova for him, I can get behind it.

    Have a feeling he’s Kuroda insurance.

  199. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    G.Love-

    Nolasco couldn’t shine Hiroki’s Samauri sword.

    Kuroda is a # 1/2 . Nolasco is 4/5.

    He isn’t going to come close to replacing his #’s.

    ;)

  200. Yankee Trader November 14th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    G. Love-

    Just found this from bronx Baseball Daily on Nolasco:

    The question is — why would the Yankees be interested in him? In parts of seven season in the majors, Nolasco has had all of one good season, when he posted a 3.52 ERA with a 7.9 K/9 and 1.8 BB/9 in 2008. From 2009 on though, he has struggled with a 4.68 ERA. I guess the thing that makes him interesting is that he’s always had strong peripherals with a 7.5 K/9 and a 2.0 BB/0 since 2009 and he had a decent 48.4 ground ball percentage last year.

    In fact, Nolasco’s FIP and xFIP are consistently lower than his ERA. His career ERA is 4.49, but his career FIP is 3.83 and xFIP is 3.78. Perhaps the Yankees see him as somebody who has been a victim of poor defense, bad luck, or both. Still, it seems hard to believe that over such a time span he could get that unlucky.

    http://bronxbaseballdaily.com/.....y-nolasco/

    Still interested?

  201. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    YT-

    I’m interested if Stanton is included in the deal.

    ;)

  202. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    YT,

    I read Fukijima is visiting a few cities and teams in the oncoming days. Don’t bother to ask.

    Boras made a very good point. If the Yankees let their brand slip, it is much harder to regain as so many teams will be flush with the extra $25M tv money and players will have more options. Incidentally, the Yankees get that too.

    I always defended the Yankees spending as saying not spending it was really the wrong. Trying to win is always a good motive. Now, it is the Yankees who pocket the extra money while cutting spending across the board.

  203. G. Love November 14th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    If Kuroda bolts and Andy is playing the indecision, yes I’m still interested in Nolasco.

    I like strike throwers and guys that don’t compound problems with walks.

    I never said he could replace Kuroda. I said I think the Yankees are viewing a guy like Nolasco as insurance in case he bolts and they need to fill a rotation spot.

    We could do worse. I never want to see Freddy Garcia throwing his slop out there on the mound as a starter for us again.

  204. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    MTU,

    I completely agree Nolasco is nowhere near as good as Kuroda. However, Kuroda may not be coming back. Neither may Pettitte. That would leave them one if not two starters short.

    Liriano, Pavano, Warren and down the one year contract line of pitchers generally unreliable are the other options. They are all ugly.

  205. Yankee Trader November 14th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    MTU-

    Stanton and Logan Morrison had some unkind words about the trade.

  206. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    G. Love-

    I think we can do better for that price.

    IMO AP is gonna return for one last hurrah with Mo and Jeter anyway.

  207. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    If Pettitte returns, they would have five starters including Nova and Phelps. They need another.

  208. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Mac-

    For that money I’d rather give Haren a 1 yr. deal.

    YT-

    can you blame them ? i hope they piss loria off enough to trade them.

    :)

  209. PacoDooley November 14th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    Yankee Trader November 14th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
    Good evening.

    Blake-

    Looks like Boras can’t find a 3 year deal for Soriano to his liking and wants the Yankees to bite for 2 years.
    —————————

    No way can I see the team seriously offering a 2 year deal to bring him back. Cashman doesn’t seem to be interested in spending serious money on relievers (he learned his lesson – Mo doesn’t count). They are so worried about 2014 that it would be completely idiotic to tie up a serious slice of that budget on a guy that they can replace internally or from a scrap heap project.

    Personally, I think it (not taking the offer) will come back to bite Boras and Soriano and Boras wants teams to believe the Yankees are in for a multi-year deal. The draft pick cost along with a large multi-year deal for a guy that has shown some weaknesses and injury issues makes little sense for most teams, and I don’t see him doing better than 3/30.

  210. Yankee Trader November 14th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    Austinmac-

    Thanks I think I read that Fujikawa is visiting the DBacks, Angels and Dodgers facilities.

    Don’t forget “old reliables” Moyer and Millwood! :(

  211. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Who could we get who is better and would come for one year? They could do a bulk deal and get three guys for that price and hope one works out. That’s conceivable, I suppose.

  212. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Mac-

    Give Haren a 1 yr. incentive-based deal.

    Make Pineda and Warren his BU’s.

    Pineda should be ready by mid-season.

  213. Yankee Trader November 14th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Paco-

    Totally agree on Soriano. I believe Boras seriously overestimated interest in his client for a 3-4 year big money contract.

  214. Jerkface November 14th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    A pretty lol video showing the overall talent disparity of the KBO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGulrMu_hFE

    Watch as his teammates screw Ryu over and over again

  215. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    MTU,

    If he would want to rebuild value for one year, you may well be right. You’re thinking I see. Perhaps, all my irritation and venting is dulling my thought process. :)

  216. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    If Mo comes back the heck with Soriano.

    We’ll have plenty of in-house options by next year.

  217. Yankee Trader November 14th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    MTU-

    Pineda’s shoulder might be ready by mid-season, but will he have a 3rd pitch-CU?

    I’m not counting on him at all. Hopefully his exercise program doesn’t include lifting a fork to his mouth a few hundred times a day[plagerized from Nick in SF].

  218. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    mac-

    I’d rather go that route than Nolasco.

    Question is, would he do it ?

    Might for 11-12 mil and the opportunity you spoke of.

    ;)

  219. austinmac November 14th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Unless Nick uses the little copyright symbol, can’t we plagiarize from Nick without admitting it?

  220. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    YT-

    He already has a 3rd pitch.

    The Yankees agree with you but he has already started a throwing program so who knows ?

    He’s young. Young people sometimes do foolish things. I know I did.

    ;)

  221. Yankee Trader November 14th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    Just wanted to admit plagiarism rather than steal Nick’s thunder.

    JF-

    Some quality defense in Korea!

  222. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Remember.

    Pineda would only be a BU.

    He would only be expected to work maybe half a season at the backend of the Ro.

    He’s not gonna be expected to be a #1/2 again anytime soon.

    The odds of him be able to do that are higher IMO.

    ;)

  223. Yankee Trader November 14th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    If you are looking for a starter with one year left on their contract-there’s Tim Lincecum. Too pricey however at 22M.

  224. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Marshall will probably start at AAA next year.

    He’s a Zach McAllister type. A GB guy with more K ability.

    If he does well he might be ready for promtion by mid-season or so.

    :)

  225. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    If we’re lucky both Kuroda and AP will return.

    If we’re less fortunate maybe just AP.

    If we’re stone cold unlucky maybe we see neither one.

    We really have to have 1 of them.

    If we get either one we’ll be able to manage.

  226. Yankee Trader November 14th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Price or Verlander-award to be announced soon.

    Too bad the Yankees didn’t give Kuroda more run support. He could have easily won 20-21 games this year.

  227. blake November 14th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    If Kuroda and Andy leave we are screwed…..because one of two things will happen….either the rotation will stink or Cashman will make a bad counterproductive trade for a pitcher

  228. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    I also wonder if Towers would let go of Bauer ?

    What would we have to give to get him ?

    He is in disfavor over there as is JU.

    He pitched for Stanford on the same team as Gerritt Cole I believe.

  229. mick November 14th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    Price by 4 pts.

  230. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    Blake-

    Yes. Screwed and Tattooed.

    But I think those odds are rather low.

  231. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Happy for Price.

    He had a great season.

  232. antisocial scrooge November 14th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    someone put fernando rodney first? really?

  233. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    Here’s a thought.

    Could Warren, Marshall, or Betances be next year’s Phelps ?

    Possible isn’t it ?

  234. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Especially since we now have a 1st rate MiLB pitching coach.

    ;)

  235. MTU November 14th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    Catch you all later.

    Have a good evening.

  236. Run it Out November 14th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Happy time in Houston. Loria just made them look like a well managed franchise.


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