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Kuroda reportedly prefers returning to California

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 17, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Sorry everyone, but we’ll start today with a bit of bad news for the Yankees.

A report out of Los Angeles suggests Hiroki Kuroda is leaning toward playing on the West Coast so that he can stay closer to his children. Here’s the sentence that carries weight.

Kuroda has told friends that his first preference is to pitch in Southern California, where his two daughters are attending elementary school.

Mark Saxon notes that the Dodgers were financially unable to make Kuroda an offer last winter, which might have opened the door to him landing with the Yankees in the first place. However, Saxon also notes that Kuroda preferring a one-year deal, “would fit the Dodgers’ needs perfectly.”

If the Dodgers are motivated to make a run at Kuroda, they can certainly offer him something the Yankees can’t. What would the Yankees do if Kuroda went back to Los Angeles? I honestly have no idea.

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161 Responses to “Kuroda reportedly prefers returning to California”

  1. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    86w183-

    Do you agree that in order for the Yankees to trade for an outfielder, if a pitcher is to be included, they most likely would like to know soon if Kuroda is on board, and if not that Pettitte could commit much sooner than he usually does?

    Now if you are referring to BJ Upton or any FA outfielder it makes no difference. Bourn BTW faded for the Braves the last few months of the season, and the Braves are entertaining BJ Upton, as are the Phillies and Nats. One of them might have him signed soon.

  2. Bad Scooter November 17th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Could be true or could be agent leaking this to force Yanks hand to up offer. We’re in trouble if he leaves. On a one year deal we can go as high as we want as it won’t effect the 189 million in 2014 stuff.

  3. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    The Dodgers would also be giving up their 1st round pick, which according to previous rumors, they might be reluctant to do because they supposedly need to rebuild their farm system.

  4. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    86w183-

    Caught your response at the end of the prior thread. Thanks. Have a good weekend and don’t work too hard!

  5. Against All Odds November 17th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    Against All Odds November 17th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    They were undoubtedly better than the Tigers,

    ——————————-

    They were swept by the Tigers.

  6. yankfan1 November 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    roll the dice with either Haren (preferably) or Nolasco… they have no other options really. Or CC/Pettite/Hughes/ Nova/ Phelps. Not terrible, but not very good, and thats considering if Pettite actually doesn’t retire.
    What do you guys think of Sin Soo Choo as solution for RF. No idea what hell cost in terms of prospects, but its a 1 year deal, so I’m sure the Yankees ill be interested, and hes a nice player. Plays okay defense, but has some pop, some speed, and has a career .383 OBP

  7. PacoDooley November 17th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 9:06 am
    The Dodgers would also be giving up their 1st round pick, which according to previous rumors, they might be reluctant to do because they supposedly need to rebuild their farm system.
    ——————————————-

    This is where making the qualifying offer has a lot of value to the Yankees. If Kuroda wants only a one year deal, then the loss of a draft pick is more costly. So you add $15m in salary (or whatever) plus the draft pick value and he costs you a lot on a short deal.

    But I certainly understand his preference for returning to the west if his family is there. I suppose moving them to NY when he signed a 1 year deal made no sense, and he is not going to move them now, so he might as well find a way to be closer to them (I would do the same thing).

  8. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    Repost:

    J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    Melky, to me, is essentially a championship caliber piece if he reaches his kc or possibly sf side. I understand Yanks not signing him, i just like to know if the organization even contemplate him as an option. here is a guy who has played in NY and has a supporting system in place with the Yankees. the risk is as we know now is 2 for 16, the upside is an apt replacement for Swisher and possible more, the down side is you are getting the ATL version him and overpaying him for about 10 mil or so.
    ///

    There is zero chance Melky puts up Atlanta-type numbers: zero chance, barring some kind of injury.

    The idea that he’s some “risk” in terms of scale: that he’s an All-Star caliber hitter on one end, or some derelict bat at any moment at the other – is sheer fantasy, created by Brian Cashman’s LOUSY self scouting in the first place, and lacking in reality.

    The outlier IS NOT the last two seasons: it’s 2010.

    Don Mattingly, Alex Rodriguez, Robinson Cano and George Brett all have at least two things in common: they are or have been elite hitters, and they all have commented on how talented Melky Cabrera is as a hitter.

    This “fourth outfielder” junk is espoused by a guy who has no predictive gift whatsoever when it comes to identifying hitting prowess; one who is also resentful and smug and who likes to run down players he’s traded (please see: “NL pitcher” comment about Ian Kennedy).

    So, it’s really just some empty hope that the Yankees have somehow avoided a great “risk” by not re-entertaining Melky Cabrera. They are small minded, petty and have passed on the kind of player they are in desperate need of.

    At a certain point, setting Melky aside, a wide-awake fan has to draw the conclusion that Brian Cashman is not the guy to build back up the Yankees. Even the upside guys on the farm are always in jeopardy, because despite his “we’ll build from within” rhetoric, he’s burned both Jackson and Montero and I see no reason to think Sanchez or Heathcott or Williams are safe, if he can get himself another pitcher.

    He had a ready-made solution for hanging onto those types of upside guys and he blew it. Just blew it. Somebody in here said last night that the Yankees should have taken the “clubhouse” risk with Cabrera. This is another fiction, that he was a bad clubhouse guy.

    Derek f’n Jeter said, before Melky got busted for testosterone, that Cabrera is a “good clubhouse guy and a good teammate”. That’s Derek Jeter talking. If he was some kind of malignancy, would Jeter take up for him? Sounded like Jeter, in fact, was giving bringing the kid back a ringing endorsement.

    Really, I didn’t expect them to actually make sense and re-sign this player; they continue to meet my expectations, which are nil. And I’ll not be surprised when they waste some great young talent in the system to bring in a bat or arm. I’m even more disgusted than I was in January, and there seems to be no remedy, since these people in the FO are thoroughly entrenched. Oh well, like our resident vapid, vision-less pom-pom wavers are always admonishing: it’s their team and their money.

    Addendum: Too bad we haven’t made it a tough choice for Kuroda, who probably doesn’t want to exert himself in vain causes, waiting on our geriatric lineup to push across runs for him.

  9. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Paco and Yankfan1-

    The Yankees are waiting on Kuroda’s agent to come back to them with the Dodgers/Angels offers.
    If Martin, his batterymate with the Dodgers gets a 3 year offer and signs with, let’s say the Rangers who are interested, I wonder if he then decides he’s going back to LA? The Yankee’s offense gave him the worst run support of any of the starting pitchers, and with so many holes to fill and the direction the team is headed, a chance at a WS appearance might be better with one of the LA teams.

  10. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    Choo-

    The only downside is that he couldn’t hit lefties last year. BA .199; slugging .286; 2 homers in 206 ab’s.

    BA the year before was better vs lefties but no power-1 homer.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....n-soo-choo

  11. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    JAP

    I agree with you about Melky Cabrera. Even without testosterone his numbers shouldn’t approach his year with the Braves.

    However, maybe if the Yankees had shown interest, he might not have wanted to play in NY while trying to resurrect his career, dealing with the media scrutiny.

  12. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    YT – Maybe, but I don’t think any genuine effort was made, based on Cashman’s self-congratulatory remarks when Melky got busted.

    I would also speculate that with Alex and Cano around (assuming latter isn’t dealt), and the familiarity of New York and the Stadium, he would have felt more secure and even somewhat shielded. The fanbase, too, would have embraced him; the crowd especially has always had a soft spot for him.

    The question is, what are they doing for an offense? A pitcher wants half a shot at a win when he takes his turn.

  13. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Message for Randy Levine and his comment-”The tortooise usually wins the race.”

    The last part of the Aesop’s Fable:

    “That is a good joke,” said the Hare; “I could dance round you all the way.”

    “Keep your boasting till you’ve won,” answered the Tortoise. “Shall we race?”

    So a course was fixed and a start was made. The Hare darted almost out of sight at once, but soon stopped and, to show his contempt for the Tortoise, lay down to have a nap. The Tortoise plodded on and plodded on, and when the Hare awoke from his nap, he saw the Tortoise just near the winning-post and could not run up in time to save the race.

    Then the Tortoise said: “Slow but steady progress wins the race.”

    Mr Levine-

    The problem is that the “hares” are not napping this year!

  14. Cashmoney November 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Jap, i think we need a new GM.

  15. Cashmoney November 17th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    i am sure if Cashman is stealth and patient enough we can wait out the entire FA class.

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 9:51 am

    I think they’ll do something; Hal wants fannies in the seats. The question is, how much will it help, how much will it hurt?

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    Cashmoney November 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Jap, i think we need a new GM.
    ///

    You say right, sir. But the owners love this guy – at least, Hal does. We may have to wait for a sale before any changes are made. Let’s just hope we still have a farm/future, by then.

  18. Cashmoney November 17th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    no doubt, that’s the conundrum. go all in one way or another. the problem is they are not going in to go all in for 13 by all indications. and i don’t think we have right stewardship to guide us thru a rebuilding process. There could some rough water ahead, Jap.

  19. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    Cash-

    Pretty slim pickings from the free agent list, especially if one waits to pick from the bottom of the barrel.

    List of FA’s:

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....gents.html

  20. blake November 17th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    No worries …,there is always trading all the prospects for Matt Garza.

    In a serious note…..if Kuroda leaves its going to be very difficult to replace him without either signing Grienke (they won’t spend the money)……or overpaying in a trade.

    The best bet would probably be to roll the dice on Haren if he will do a one year deal…..over pay him for a year if you have to and just hope his back holds up…..don’t see a lot of other options.

  21. Cashmoney November 17th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    YT, it’s slim. if they wanna uber cheap part ,they can start with RH platoon dh and spare 5th of Jonny Gomes. but the, i see no indication of that either.

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Cashmoney, we’re already waist-high in sludge! :( Maybe we need a tsunami before we can truly rebuild.

  23. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:03 am

    I can deal with rough waters, but what I can’t deal with is the spin.

    As for the tortoise, the tortoise may have been slow, but he was steady and had a plan, do we?

  24. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    JAP

    “Hal wants fannies in the seats.”

    Question is which seats bring in the most revenue. These seats behind homeplate-

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....ricing.jsp

    and the skyboxes, both most often corporate owned and unless the country is going off the fiscal cliff, will still bring in the most revenue.

    Does Hal care about the revenue brought in from the cheap seats? Nooooooooooooo!

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    The best bet would probably be to roll the dice on Haren if he will do a one year deal…..over pay him for a year if you have to and just hope his back holds up…..don’t see a lot of other options.
    ////

    Whispers: “Joba Chamberlain…” ;)

  26. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    YT, those “cheap” seats add up, though. And appearance matters to these guys, thus the BS about Cabrera being “unclean” blah blah blah.

    The place looks forlorn with no one sitting in the seats, even if some are paid for. As usual, they’ll need to win over the little guy to at least make a show of fan enthusiasm.

  27. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    YT, all those cheap seats add up. Two infield grandstand seats in a full season with playoffs run about $6,000, and that doesn’t even include anything bought any additional purchases at the Stadium.

  28. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    include *any additional purchases (that should read)

  29. blake November 17th, 2012 at 10:12 am

    Yea but Joba hasn’t started in like 3 years now and he’s coming off 2 significant injuries…..even if they did make the decision to start him now it’s very unlikely IMO that he could give them what they need in 2013 ….and he’s a FA after next year…..

    If Kuroda leaves (and I still believe he will be back) then the Yanks have to replace him with something that’s a more known commodity if they wanna compete next year…..

    I think if they don’t address the offense they are teetering on not being a playoff team anyway….if the rotation takes a step back then I think it’s gonna be tough…..

  30. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Should have been addressed to Pruf as well, re: “cheap seats add up”

  31. AAA November 17th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Whispers: “Joba Chamberlain…

    =========================

    An interesting thought. As he’s a free agent after next year, he’d almost certainly be interested in such a move. There were flashes of brilliance in that role Joba.

  32. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Kuroda might be using “the school thing” as leverage. Here’s hoping.

    I fear we make a big deal because of public pressure. Another dream of Cash’s in the making? :roll:

  33. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    They’ll never put Joba in the SP, even though “Jobber” is a “stahtin” pitchah.

  34. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    YF-

    Good morning. The Tortoise had a plan for that race and won only because the Hare was napping. Most of the teams ,other than the Marlins, have a long range plan, and I’m afraid the Yankee’s ownership does too.

    Maximize their returns. Spend less. Wait for the young talent to arrive in a few years and hope the mistakes you made in the past-the signings they did and foolishly didn’t make- don’t come back to “bite them in the a#@.

    IMVHO-They are already bitten and have been for the past few years, not taking advantage of the international talent that was right at their dooorstep.

  35. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    blake, they have no choice but to address an offense that they so overestimated. Scary thought. In spite the patience spin; gig move a-coming. Bank on it.

  36. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    *big move

  37. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 10:18 am

    Blake-

    I’ve mentioned Haren as a possible plan B.

    Give him a shot in the back ala Beckett and send him out there.

    Back him up with Warren and/or Pineda.

  38. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:19 am

    YT, you can spend less and reap more, if you are smart. Let us hope they have learned from their mistakes. Also, please hire someone who understands bat speed. Please.

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    I have no doubt they’ll do something.

    I don’t think it’s a coincidence that in here, most of the people who shrugged off Montero’s exit are the same who really don’t pay much attention to who we have in the system, much less go out of their way to get a glimpse of them on their way up the ladder.

    So if it’s not hard to get rid of a bat unilaterally proclaimed by disinterested scouts to be “can’t miss” and one that actually gave a preview of what kind of damage that bat could do for the team at the major-league level, I doubt there would be tears spilled over the loss of a single-A catcher who can hit moonshots, or single-A OFers who both profile as starting CFers.

    Plug in a string of lights in a gaudy front window and the average fan will buy the store in the short term. No one remembers players who are a couple years away; to most fans, that’s an eternity, until something like what happened in this postseason happens. Then it’s “Why’d we trade this guy??!!”

  40. AAA November 17th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Kuroda might be using “the school thing” as leverage

    =============================

    Doesn’t seem his style. Remember, if the Dodgers weren’t on the cusp of insolvency last offseason, he’d have signed with them. They couldn’t afford to offer him a contract.

  41. blake November 17th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    I don’t know….I think Cashman will look at the trade market for offense but if Kuroda leaves then he had to shift gears to fill that need first…..

    I’m not convinced they will do anything bold at all really…..

  42. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    YT-

    the fact that the Yankees did not go for some of the IFA’s tells me one of 4 things :

    They did not want to invest the money because they are planning on selling the Team.

    They missed on the scouting.

    They are gunshy after Igawa.

    All of the above.

    ;)

  43. Against All Odds November 17th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Yea the Joba thing is not happening. It’s another blunder on Cashman’s record. His plan was to have a young cost effective starters and tight now the 2013 seasons hinges on starters in their late 30′s and early 40s respectively.

  44. Tidrow November 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    I wouldn’t mind the Yankees not signing free agents if they gave their young players a shot. What infuriates me about this team is it’s preference for over the hill talent as opposed to promising rookies or young vets.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Should have been addressed to Pruf as well, re: “cheap seats add up”
    ///

    Yankeefem – as a reformed and long-standing STH from Main seating area, I’m not exactly platinum, but apparently I’m a big enough loss for them to hound me day and night with solicitations to rejoin the fold.

  46. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Tidrow November 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    I wouldn’t mind the Yankees not signing free agents if they gave their young players a shot. What infuriates me about this team is it’s preference for over the hill talent as opposed to promising rookies or young vets.
    ///

    Tidrow, hear, hear. And I have heard your posts on the matter and concur, heartily.

  47. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Blake, Pettitte needs to return. Let’s see what they really think of Phelps.

    YT, yes we should have taken advantage of IFA’s, but didn’t. Should have some decent ones coming up the pike though IF we don’t trade them. Yanks overestimated their O. Bottom line. Just stick to the program if you aren’t going to spend money.

  48. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    YF-

    Big move?
    Unlikely to be a major FA signing of another teams FA.
    Trade away what major league proven cost controlled talent you have? How much do other teams value Nunez, Nova, Phelps?
    Trade away your top 5 minor league players in a deal for a rebuilding team?

    I’m not feeling the love from the Yankees FO, that a big move that will excite the fanbase, is coming.

  49. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Against All Odds November 17th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Yea the Joba thing is not happening. It’s another blunder on Cashman’s record. His plan was to have a young cost effective starters and tight now the 2013 seasons hinges on starters in their late 30?s and early 40s respectively.
    ///

    Probably it is not; and it underscores how they waste resources and how stupid their stated “pitching wins” zeal is.

    They have a guy who is 27, back to throwing 97, with a 3-pitch complement. His stuff, age, and apparent health scream “starter” and they continue to have him come out of the bullpen, while bleating their brainless “pitching, pitching, pitching” mantra.

  50. G. Love November 17th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    You silly guys are just focusing on the negative.

    Embrace those glorious 95 wins from last year. Cherish them this off season and fondly hold onto them.

    Be excited to see living breathing strapping men in Yankee uniforms next year.

    You all need to realize it’s much happier living in the matrix than questioning things.

    This blog is a much better place when we all agree that the Yankees are divine, wise, omnipotent and always right.

    We’re just lucky to be somewhere in their shadow.

  51. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    YT, if we don’t sign Kuroda, then we may just sit this year out and stop gap it. I am not against that. If we do sign Kuroda, I bet Cash overpays with some of the farm for a bat.

    It’ll be interesting too to see what we do now that Toronto is a “player.” Good opportunity/excuse to actually be patient. Will we be or is it just rhetoric?

  52. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    On Kuroda-

    If the Dodgers and Angels are willing to give up the draft pick, he will be in LA. Too much unknown about the Yankees this coming season to give him a good shot at a WS appearance for his last year in the States before he returns to Japan.

    Realistically, if you are a FA, coming off your best season, getting the worst run support of all the starters, watching the offense fail in the postseason, knowing the Yankees aren’t willing to commit dollars to sign any key offensive additions, what would you do.

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    AAA November 17th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Whispers: “Joba Chamberlain…

    =========================

    An interesting thought. As he’s a free agent after next year, he’d almost certainly be interested in such a move. There were flashes of brilliance in that role Joba.
    ///

    Yep. Some forget how good he was in 2008 as a starter before he got hurt.

    I’ve said it many times here, but the irony of them trading their top chip for Pineda, who used a 98 mph fastball/nasty slide combo to pitch well for half of a rookie season, before elbow problems and a loss of velocity intervened – is not lost on me.

    This is the kind of naivete a fan can be guilty of, but not the GM of the New York Yankees. Cashman comes off as a wannabe, he really does. Joba wasn’t worth the trouble to actually try and develop, but he had dilated pupils for Pineda, who, unlike Chamberlain, doesn’t even have a true third pitch (Joba has four, count ‘em).

  54. G. Love November 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Who needs silly Kuroda? We certainly don’t!

    Cashman can find us the next Aaron Small working in a mall for crying out loud!

    He could find the next Shawn Chacon somewhere inside Sidney Ponson!

    Just drink the Kool Aid. It’s delish!

  55. Against All Odds November 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Against All Odds November 17th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Yea the Joba thing is not happening. It’s another blunder on Cashman’s record. His plan was to have a young cost effective starters and tight now the 2013 seasons hinges on starters in their late 30?s and early 40s respectively.
    ///

    Probably it is not; and it underscores how they waste resources and how stupid their stated “pitching wins” zeal is.

    They have a guy who is 27, back to throwing 97, with a 3-pitch complement. His stuff, age, and apparent health scream “starter” and they continue to have him come out of the bullpen, while bleating their brainless “pitching, pitching, pitching” mantra.

    —————
    With the uncertainty of Kuroda and Andy, the struggles of the Bs, and the lack of a desire to spend it would have been smart to prepare Joba as a starter going into 13. The idea is to have as many options as possible…not to limit them.

  56. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    And not trying to sign Melky is just stupid. But Blabbermouth there made it clear that he considers the Melkman a 4th OF. SMH.

  57. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    G. Love November 17th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    You silly guys are just focusing on the negative.

    Embrace those glorious 95 wins from last year. Cherish them this off season and fondly hold onto them.

    Be excited to see living breathing strapping men in Yankee uniforms next year.

    You all need to realize it’s much happier living in the matrix than questioning things.

    This blog is a much better place when we all agree that the Yankees are divine, wise, omnipotent and always right.

    We’re just lucky to be somewhere in their shadow.
    ///

    GLove, you’re actually better at this than she is :D.

  58. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    JAP-

    Wish it was Pineda’s right elbow. He would have a better chance of recovering his velocity.
    Too many unknowns to even count on Pineda to even be productive this coming season.

  59. Cashmoney November 17th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    G.Trish?

  60. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    No worries …,there is always trading all the prospects for Matt Garza.
    _____
    Maybe we can then trade him back to the Rays for Archer and Hak-Ju Lee? Ya think? Except Friedman wouldn’t be that dumb. :(

  61. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Since the Yankees are completely inactive, if you want some action, go see Skyfall-good and different Bond movie.

  62. DONNYBROOK November 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    I reserve judgement on the 25 Man roster till After the Winter Meetings. We all knew the Yanks were Not gonna break-the-bank going after Free Agents, so the angst around here is premature. What I do believe Needs to happen, is for Hal to attend the Winter Meetings. Hal spends his time in dull and dreary meetings, eyeballin’ slash lines, and looking at the current bottom line vs that $189 Mill. Kinda like a lot of the Stat Heads around here do. There’s a beautiful Game out there, and Hal and those of his ilk are missing it.

  63. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 10:45 am

    Yt-

    We’ve got the the sequel playing in here right now “Skyfallen”.

    It’s not as good.

    :(

  64. Tidrow November 17th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    If Kuroda leaves the Yankees will survive. I would have no problem with Phelps taking his spot. I also wouldn’t mind seing a rightfield platoon of Dickerson and Mustelier if Ichiro isn’t resigned. Young guys bring a hunger and energy to a team which is something this team sorely needs. Stop trying to stack the deck with big names all the time. Trust your young talent. If you sign free agents go for young guys with upside instead of one dimensional old players on their last legs.

  65. G. Love November 17th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    I’ve just seen the light & discovered recreational morphine.

  66. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    The pull of Family can be very strong.

  67. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    With the uncertainty of Kuroda and Andy, the struggles of the Bs, and the lack of a desire to spend it would have been smart to prepare Joba as a starter going into 13. The idea is to have as many options as possible…not to limit them.
    ///

    Sure, unless those options underscore an initial mistake, which must not, at all costs, be admitted.

    Cashman could say, I was right about Joba to begin with, I should have listened to my gut and left him in the rotation. He’s not too bright, is he.

  68. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    G Love. maybe we don’t even need to sign a RF; we can let “Aura” play there instead, and “Mystique” can replace Kuroda in the SP. ;)

  69. Cashmoney November 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    I give this, Emilio Estavez was a lot more convincing in Men at Work as Cashman than Pitt as Billy Beane.

  70. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    I’m already gearing up for the worst, so I can be happy when I’m wrong.

    Starters:

    Sabathia
    Hughes
    Nova
    Phelps
    Journeyman

    Outfield:
    Gardner, Granderson, Ichiro,Ibanez/Nix

    Infield:
    Tex, Cano, Jeter, ARod, Nunez, Wiggington

    Catcher:
    Whiteside, Cervelli

    Cashman-now surprise me!!

  71. DONNYBROOK November 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Yanks should see what the price tag is for Stubbs\Cinn. Also, keep their toe in the water concerning Sizemore.

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Realistically, if you are a FA, coming off your best season, getting the worst run support of all the starters, watching the offense fail in the postseason, knowing the Yankees aren’t willing to commit dollars to sign any key offensive additions, what would you do.
    ///

    Sign elsewhere. Not like he’d be giving up a Japanese sub-culture, either. There’s at least as strong a one on the West Coast as there is in NYC. He’s also already pitched out there. I’m not optimistic :(

  73. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    YT, no way we don’t sign Russell. Who would frame pitches for us?

  74. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Why can’t Kuroda’s daughters attend elementary school in the NY metro area? Plenty of good schools around here.

  75. yankee21 November 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    Stop trying to stack the deck with big names all the time. Trust your young talent. If you sign free agents go for young guys with upside instead of one dimensional old players on their last legs….

    Tidrow, I think the ears to hear this are Yankee decision makers vs. this blog.

    IMO they do not trust their young players, to give them a chance. Keep in mind they did not have a single AB from a rookie position player until rosters expanded in September, despite the need throughout 2013. One wonders if the reason the Yankees do not trust their players is because they think they aren’t legit. And if that is the case, why weren’t the players properly coached and developed to be able to supplement the ML team? Is it coaching, developing, drafting, and if not, what is it? Does the owner really notice, more importantly, does the owner even give a damn half as much as the fans. If not this franchise needs to be sold ASAP.

    When you have a disengaged owner, the answers to the above really don’t matter, what matters to the disengaged owner is cost-cutting, that is the pre-eminent concern. Any other points are just noise muddling the #1 objective.

  76. G. Love November 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    If the Yankees decide leaving RF vacant is the right path to follow, who are we to question it? They know better. We’re just angry negative sheeple.

    I don’t worry about those things anymore.

  77. Cashmoney November 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    YF, Captain Martin, Please.

  78. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    YF-

    If the Rangers give him 3 guaranteed years, Mr. Martin is gone.

  79. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    No worries …,there is always trading all the prospects for Matt Garza.
    _____
    Maybe we can then trade him back to the Rays for Archer and Hak-Ju Lee? Ya think? Except Friedman wouldn’t be that dumb. :(
    ////

    Yankeefem, doesn’t Archer have command problems? They’ll bring him in and then stash him in the bullpen, the place they seem to be transitioning Dellin to :mad:

  80. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    If the Rangers give Martin 3 yrs. maybe it’s the Rangers who are gone.

    Gone wild.

    They can have him on a 3 yr. contract.

    He had a chance at one with us last season. He blew it. Fortunately for us.

    :)

  81. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    When you have a disengaged owner, the answers to the above really don’t matter, what matters to the disengaged owner is cost-cutting, that is the pre-eminent concern. Any other points are just noise muddling the #1 objective.
    ////

    21, while this is true, the GM’s ability to understand what the team needs, and his interpretation of what effective offense is, in isolation, do no speak well for him. There is a fundamental problem, as well, with who the GM is, IMO.

    And I think it’s absolutely important to voice our displeasure, since the Yankees do actually pay attention to blogs on the net.

    We can’t let the poppy people run us dissenters off and be mistaken as representative.

  82. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    I’m still trying to convince myself that this is just an agent trying to drive up the price knowing his client only wants a one year deal so he can get a big cut.

    Please… please let that be the case.

  83. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    “Why don’t you say something hopeful for a change. Enough with them negative wave LoHudders.”

    Short video to brighten your day:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ

  84. yankee21 November 17th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    f the Yankees decide leaving RF vacant is the right path to follow, who are we to question it? They know better. We’re just angry negative sheeple.

    I don’t worry about those things anymore…

    Probably good advice G. Love.

    Maybe 30% more people will think that way too in 2013 and that will be the impact on ticket/concessions/merchandise revenue next year for Hal to be able to work into his spread sheet.

  85. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    JAP-

    Wish it was Pineda’s right elbow. He would have a better chance of recovering his velocity.
    Too many unknowns to even count on Pineda to even be productive this coming season.
    ///

    The best thing for that kid is for people to chalk him up as lost. Then, if he can rebuild his arm in obscurity, that would be a bonus. I still can’t believe they let him unload in that ST game when he was clearly uncomfortable.

  86. yankee21 November 17th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    J. Alfred,

    You really think Yankee decision makers read this blog? I kind of doubt it. We are just stupid fans with stupid ideas on how to run a stupid team to them.

    They don’t give a damn what we think. They will do what they want regardless, the only thing that will catch their attention is declining revenues faster than anticipated.

  87. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    I think the Yankees will, in the end, field a competitive but not great team this coming season.

  88. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    I still can’t believe they let him unload in that ST game when he was clearly uncomfortable.

    ——————

    Proper medical evaluators.. not in the budget!

  89. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    You want a Right Fielder? See what’s left after XMas from this FA list:

    Jeff Baker (32)
    Brian Bogusevic (29)
    Travis Buck (29)
    Endy Chavez (35)
    Mark DeRosa (38)
    Kosuke Fukudome (36)
    Scott Hairston (33)
    Reed Johnson (36)
    Andruw Jones (36)
    Don Kelly (33)
    Nyjer Morgan (32)
    Xavier Nady (34)
    Juan Rivera (34)
    Cody Ross (32)
    Ichiro Suzuki (39)

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....5biTf16.99

  90. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    Short video to brighten your day:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ
    ////

    YT, LOL at Sutherland:

    “Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful, for a change?”

    LMAO

  91. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    I’m glad GLove is turning over a new leaf.

    GLove, join me on Team Stand Pat Until the Trade Deadline, also known as Team Glutton for Punishment.

  92. Duh Innings II November 17th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    The Yanks should’ve signed Scott Baker to the one-year pithy $5.5M base plus up to $1.5M in incentives contract he signed with the Cubs. I bet he’d have taken less base salary – say $4M base – to sign with the Yanks as the Cubs are going absolutely nowhere. Even if he still wanted $5.5M base, he’d be a bargain considering that’s only $1.25M more than Felicano cost for 2012 ($4M salary plus $250K buyout) and $1.5M more than Garcia cost for 2012.

    Kuroda is all about his comfort, good riddance. ‘Nice using your children as an excuse to return to the loser Dodgers. Will you take less than the $13.3M the Yanks offered you so you could be closer to your kids? If you take less, then it really is about your kids. If you take more, you’re full of shi t, it’s about the money, you’re using your kids to hide that, and that’s weak.

    Family first but I don’t think it’s about that when he’ll be paid more than $13.3M by the Dodgers who have the leverage to offer him less than that cuz it’s about being close to the kids, right? Why offer Kuroda $13.3M or more for 2013 or two years when it’s not about the money for him?

    It is time the Yanks look to signing Jake Peavy. The Chicago White Sox will not pick up Peavy’s $22M option for 2013. They will buy him out for $4M. ‘

    I say offer Peavy two years and $26.7M like this:

    The $13.3M the Yanks offered Kuroda for 2013 and $13.4M for 2014.

    I bet he’d take it. It’s a risk but fact is Peavy is only 31 years old, too young to accept a one-year deal, so you have to give him at least two years at least what you offered Kuroda for 2013 per year. If Peavy signs to this, he’d make $17.3M total for 2013 ($13.3M plus his $4M buyout) and $30.7M total for 2013-14.

  93. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    I still can’t believe they let him unload in that ST game when he was clearly uncomfortable.

    ——————

    Proper medical evaluators.. not in the budget!
    ///

    :(
    Shame, I am now ordering Tate’s by the case. Can’t endure any potential gaps between bags.

  94. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o0ExGXfs2o

  95. blake November 17th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    MTU,

    I was just watching an episode of Finding Bigfoot that was done in Utah…..you ever been squatchin out there ?

  96. BIG AL November 17th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Cashman’s favorite song; Here we go again …….

    Folks, I hate to bring you all down, but, JAP is right in his statements concerning the Yankees and Cashman’s lack of ability to properly assess the needs of the team, and more importantly talent.

    Other teams are doing more, with less, because of the talent in place to assess both MLB players, and talent in the MiLB. Scouts that can make judgement calls on FA players, like those available last season, took chances on players like Cespedes and others, and they won, while the Yankees stood on the sidelines, more like observers than talent seekers.

    Yes, it is sad, but, get use to this same scene playing out over and over again, because the real talent the Yankees lack is in the FO.

  97. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    G Love, dump your seasons and get into Trenton baseball. Best talent around. I know in your heart of hearts, you have it in you to be a prospect hugger. And better catch the Trenton prospects while you can still fantasize about them being Yankees. You know that like Montero before them, they will all be traded away for injury matrix pitchers. Cash has a dream. :)

  98. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Maybe the Yankees can get back righty Justin Maxwell, one of the last cuts so they could bring back Smiley Jones!

  99. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    YT-

    Cody Ross is OK.

    There are always trades.

    ;)

  100. BIG AL November 17th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    blake -

    Mike is one of them! The only difference, he learned to shave to hide in plain site.

  101. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    “Shame, I am now ordering Tate’s by the case. Can’t endure any potential gaps between bags.”

    Send some my way, please. Double chocolate go very nicely with a handful of walnuts. :)

  102. blake November 17th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    I think I saw MTU actually…..he was dressed up in the gorilla suit trying to fool those guys

  103. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    JAP – Morphine, Tates.. same thing really!

    I’m prepared to pick up a couple more vices for the season. I think a fair amount of wine, weed, chocolate, and the tears of children should cover it.

    But I have to say, just so other people don’t think I’m being especially negative this off-season for no reason: Not having another sport to focus on to take my mind off of the upcoming Yankee season has hurt.

    I never depend on the Cowboys to deliver any enjoyment.. they usually serve up cold hard disappointment year in and year out.. but not having any hockey to lose myself in has been brutal. It’s been keeping me focused on the Yankees at a time when I’ve never wanted to be less focused on the team.

  104. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Blake-

    Must have been up North.

    They’d have to be coral sand colored to blend in down here.

    They don’t burrow do they ?

    :)

  105. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Shame-

    Don’t worry, be happy.

    Those M&M candies were on a deserted island. No radio. No access to Yankee news, or non-news!

    LMAO.

  106. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Blake-

    Guess you liked my hoax film out in Ca.

    I really had ‘em goin’ that time.

    ;)

  107. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    What really fooled them was when I turned back to look at the camera.

    Nice touch, eh ?

    ;)

  108. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    yankee21 November 17th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    J. Alfred,

    You really think Yankee decision makers read this blog? I kind of doubt it. We are just stupid fans with stupid ideas on how to run a stupid team to them.

    They don’t give a damn what we think. They will do what they want regardless, the only thing that will catch their attention is declining revenues faster than anticipated.
    ///

    Cashman has said he reads the blogs and “would consider ideas if they are good ones.” Of course, he would have to recognize a “good” idea… I think the Yankees are actually very sensitive to criticism. Cashman, if obliquely, always seems to answer some public criticism with some petulant crack….

    And like I said to YT, I’m a “little person” who gave up 30 years in Main when Montero was traded… (used to be Loge)…. I continue to be inundated with emails to buy seasons… all the writers read the blogs and get ideas from them… I wrote a scathing email to Joel Sherman about blowing that trade in January, and other Cashman sins, in addition to calling Sherman out for kissing up the Cashman… Somebody (blake, I think) posted a link to a Sherman story some days later, where he claimed to have criticized the Montero deal, with the same points I had made to him in my criticism of it… Michael Kay is constantly reiterating and answering “negative” criticism of the team on his radio show, etc… do they keep the pulse of fan sentiment? I would think so.

  109. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    Al-

    I’m a clean shaven albino Bigfoot.

    Very rare.

    ;)

  110. yankee21 November 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    Who here loves to pay a premium for a non-premium product? You enjoy paying $$$ for season tickets, concessions and merchandise for the privilege of watching a non-premium product?

    Things can change of course but as the OS progresses Brian “Creative” “Stealth” Cashman’s options become more limited to take this shell of a once proud franchise and re-make it into a product that will captivate people’s attention and compel people to come to YS or watch YES.

    The 2012 version of the Yankees might have been the most boring, frustrating, painful team to ever win 95 games. Since then, NY has lost its RF, probably its closer, possibly its #2 pitcher, announced its 38 yr old SS may not be ready for 3B and once again trumpeted the narrative that in order for this team to do better they just need to play better.

  111. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    MTU-

    I’m missing something. Are you being “accused” of being Bigfoot?

  112. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    I never depend on the Cowboys to deliver any enjoyment.. they usually serve up cold hard disappointment year in and year out.. but not having any hockey to lose myself in has been brutal. It’s been keeping me focused on the Yankees at a time when I’ve never wanted to be less focused on the team.
    ////

    Try being a Jet fan… on second thought, forget it.

  113. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    YT-

    That’s a new twist. I thought I’d heard ‘em all.

    :)

  114. yankee21 November 17th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    I meant to say Jeter will not be ready for opening day 2013, not 3B. Sorry.

    Signing out… Later.

  115. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    I’ll be glad to tell Brian what to do right here but it’s gonna cost him.

    ;)

  116. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    Some people think CB is Brian Cashman.

    “CB”. “BC”.

    I don’t believe it though because our CB is dignified and analyzes things really well.

    :)

  117. BIG AL November 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    Mike -

    We all know the reason for the numerous hikes into the mountains, is to visit family you left behind in Big Foot land. I saw a picture of the log cabin in one of your photo shops, very clever the way you’ve become a part of the human population, even becoming a BB fan, good job.

  118. jacksquat November 17th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Perhaps Brandon McCarthy would sign a one year deal.

  119. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Al-

    Is Bigfoot size 8.5 ? Because if he is I’m him.

    Of course there are ways to fake that too.

    ;)

  120. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    JAP-

    Is this the Joel Sherman article in the Post about the Montero trade?

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....Tt2x9OejKJ

  121. BIG AL November 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Cashman and Girardi will tell the fans at ST, we’re ready to go to war with this team, we feel good about our chances.

    And I’ll give them much credit for being able to say those words with a serious, straight face. :)

  122. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Next thing you know I’ll beaccused of being reponsible for all the UFO sightings.

    It’s hard being me. Such burdens to carry.

    :(

  123. BIG AL November 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Mike -

    I know about the clowns feet you bought on Amazon.com

  124. Cashmoney November 17th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    AL, I think Cashman actually believes it. there lies the problem.

  125. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    “…not having any hockey to lose myself in has been brutal.”

    I am going to go watch the Penguin prospects play. Like Cash, Shero likes trading them for short term fixes, but a girl can dream, can’t she…

    As for the Yanks, I don’t think we are being “negative,” we are just being realistic based on the roster and payroll rhetoric. I am happily optimistic, going forward unless we start trading away the farm again for short term fixes. Frankly, I’m more scared if we do make a trade than if we don’t. Absolutely don’t trust this FO’s ability to evaluate talent after their moves last year and their overestimation of the team’s offense the last couple of years. As for infusing youth, their concept of when these kids are ready = the future never comes. So, that in itself is a problem.

  126. austinmac November 17th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    I wish we had Billy Beane for GM. at this point I wish we had Mr. Bean.

  127. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Al-

    The suit was actually the biggest cost.

  128. austinmac November 17th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    I think what is being discussed on empty seats is the enormous loss in non-ticket revenue from what fans spend at the park. Even empty paid for seats lose much income.

  129. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    ” It is intuitive to recognize all offenses grow less effective against better pitching. But the Yankees’ first-round elimination against the Tigers exemplified how few of their hitters can handle above-average pitching. In fact, the advanced metrics show only Cano and, to a lesser degree, Mark Teixeira performed well against top pitching last year. (Thanks to Derek Carty at Baseball Prospectus for doing the research.) Conversely, Curtis Granderson, Russell Martin, Nick Swisher, Brett Gardner and Alex Rodriguez struggled significantly against the better arms in the game.”

    Sherman could print the same article now with minor changes and still hit a bullseye!

  130. austinmac November 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    GLove,

    Our stellar pitching staff will just prevent batters from hitting it to the vacated RF spot. No problem. Think of the cost savings.

  131. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    Brian Cashman did help restock the Farm so he does get credit for that.

    And he did steal Swisher from the WS.

    And he did not want to resign A-Rod at those prices.

    etc.

    So yeah. He does get some credit.

    (I’m not going to go into the negatives)

    ;)

  132. BIG AL November 17th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Let’s hope a very large number of Yankees fans feel the same, as so many of us do, concerning the direction the FO is taking this team, and do not support the team in any fashion. That means no game tickets, no hats, shirts, etc. The only thing Hal and company understand is $$$$
    so let’s not feed the devil.

  133. BIG AL November 17th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Later folks, y’all have a great day!

  134. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    JS, I was just thinking about Brandon McCarthy as well. He was just cleared to resume regular baseball activities.

    Pruf, Archer in mlb in 29 innings, 11.05K/9, 3.99/BB. I’d take that in a heartbeat. As per Jets: Good a year as any to have a broken ankle. Haven’t been able to get to games for a couple of months now.

  135. G. Love November 17th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Kay & Sherman definitely troll this blog for stories. Kay often seems to be answering things we’re talking about on this blog on his radio show before even talking to callers. Someone in his production team checks this place out and reports back to him.

    Sherman totally gets story ideas in here. It’s uncanny how what we’re discussing becomes his article by the next day.

  136. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Time to sign off. Have a great day.

    Until later.

  137. blake November 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    MTU,

    Yea that was a pretty good one ;)

  138. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    YT, “how few of their hitters can handle above-average pitching.”

    Yeah, well this has been the case for a couple of years now. It is painfully obvious.

  139. yankeefeminista November 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    Have a good one, YT and Big Al.

  140. austinmac November 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    The Yankees have a plan as they tell us. It is to pray Kuroda and Pettitte return and pick up positional scraps in January and February. It may have to convert to pitcher and positional scraps then.

    They are not going to spend at all for 2014. The question is how low on the one year food chain they will have to go with this year’s budget.

    Over the last few years I have come to expect little in player acquisition, but yet I am constantly overoptimistic. No more.

  141. blake November 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    “Sherman totally gets story ideas in here. It’s uncanny how what we’re discussing becomes his article by the next day.”

    I know….we should get credited!

  142. G. Love November 17th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    austinmac,

    I now have discovered the faith that no matter what the Yankees choose to do is perfect. RF? Who are we to care about it? Just be happy that the Yankees even have an actual right field on their field of play and that green grass grows proudly in it! Be happy that the right field wall still stands! That the WB Mason signs glistens in pristine glory for all of us to see!

    The roster will be what it will be. Our thoughts & feelings are meaningless in here. Let’s just talk about how great the word “Yankee” is. It’s 7 letters! Gah! I’m in love.

  143. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Yankee Trader November 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    JAP-

    Is this the Joel Sherman article in the Post about the Montero trade?

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports…..Tt2x9OejKJ
    //

    No. He worked both sides of the street on the trade, which made him sound wishy washy. But it seems he had some right to shoot back at me, since technically, he did play devil’s advocate!

  144. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    fem – ‘Negative’ is often very closely associated with ‘realistic’ around here lol.

    It’s just the perfect storm for me.. the Cowboys still suck after convincing me 5 years ago they would be real players, the Devils were on the verge of establishing a new team of Championship or bust players, and the Yankees are ….. doing this to me.

    Thank god I ignore basketball because from what I understand, Knicks fans are making the mistake of getting excited again. Never a good move when you like the Knicks.

    If it weren’t for Thanksgiving, this week would look pretty crappy.

  145. austinmac November 17th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    I am only going to the island if I never have to hear from Hal and Brian again. Somebody being a bat and a couple balls. In a couple years, one of you may have to play to keep within the 2015 budget.

  146. RadioKev November 17th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Joba wouldn’t be able to last a season as a starter, which isn’t really a good solution.

    Haren is the logical backup, I agree with many folks. Overpay him a little, and at worst he’ll eat innings.

  147. G. Love November 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Who are we to expect the Yankees front office to be able to find position players at the same time as trying to re-sign rotation pitchers?

    Expecting the team to be able to mutil-task is just us being greedy and negative. We’re spoiled!

    Embrace the fact that they have a process & plan and can only focus on 1 player and position at a time.

    Could you imagine how hard it must be to find players for different positions? The thought of it alone makes gives me the shivers!

  148. MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Off to hike soon.

    You all have a great day.

    And don’t concern yourself Cashman has you covered.

    ;)

  149. austinmac November 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Realistic is seeing the team play in the second half and playoffs and recognizing strengths and weaknesses. Cano, Jeter and Swisher were their primary offensive strengths. One is gone, one is hurt and one has a year left on his contract.

    Pitching was led by Kuroda and Soriano last year. Both are gone.

    The Yankees are on a severe budget for replacement players this year and for succeeding years.

    The team has no highly rated starting pitchers anymore in the minors. Nor do they have highly rated positional players anywhere near ready. A great two weeks in the AFL doesn’t make Heathcott ready this year.

    Why is it realism is so negative?

  150. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    I’m glad they troll blogs.. because this season if the Yanks don’t get off to a hot start, them selling seats to a regular season baseball game at $1k a pop is going to be a major story as they continue to cut spending.

    And I really can’t wait.

    I’m almost salivating.

    There is no story the writers want more than one that lets them bash the Yanks. The Mets were a good time for a little while, but hating the Yankees is the past-time of fans of other teams here and across the country. It’s always in vogue.

    The writers were shut up about the cost of the place in 2009.. those stories faded because the team kept winning and ultimately won the WS.

    This year…. we’ll see if they can shut them up about it again.

  151. J. Alfred Prufrock November 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am

    MTU November 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Next thing you know I’ll beaccused of being reponsible for all the UFO sightings.

    It’s hard being me. Such burdens to carry.

    :(
    ///

    Hey MTU,

    Familiar with the Discovery Project?

  152. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am

    G. Love November 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Who are we to expect the Yankees front office to be able to find position players at the same time as trying to re-sign rotation pitchers?

    Expecting the team to be able to mutil-task is just us being greedy and negative. We’re spoiled!

    Embrace the fact that they have a process & plan and can only focus on 1 player and position at a time.

    ————————

    :lol:

    Seriously GLove, Team Glutton for Punishment is recruiting since Team Greedy is curled up in a corner somewhere singing ‘Empire State of Mind’ in a creepy child voice.

  153. austinmac November 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    MTU,

    Cashman’s “restocking of the farm” sure hasn’t led to much help in the majors and little exists in the upper minors. It always seems the good players are only a couple years away.

    While they have lost some first round picks for free agents, how many first round picks over the last 10-15 years have made it to the majors? Jackson for the Tigers. Anyone else?

    He has been looking in the wrong warehouse to restock.

  154. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Team Glutton for Punishment: The Yankees are waiting until the trade deadline to make any major moves… any judgments made before that time are premature. It’s still early!

  155. tucker November 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    We’ll see which Melky shows up this year. I personally think testosterone ( a powerful synthetic drug) likely was a major contributor to his success last year. His body was completely transformed. Lean, cut, muscular. We hear about his newfound discipline and work ethic, but I have to believe that was partly enabled by drug use. Testosterone allows you to recover more quickly from workouts, etc.

    I don’t expect the Blue Jays will get the same performance out of Melky that the Giants did last year. That said, maybe he hits around .280 with gap power. Still not a bad player, just nowhere near the monster the Giants had last year. I realize he is hitting his prime years, drug use does not improve hand-eye coordination, etc. still, have to think the drug use was a major differentiator for Melky.

  156. austinmac November 17th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    I can’t wait for the reporters to get the gumption to ask hard questions. Sherman, piss someone off again.

  157. austinmac November 17th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Tucker,

    I would be thrilled if the Yankee right fielder next year hit .280 with fifteen homers. Also, I would be stunned.

  158. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    I don’t even like Sherman.

    One thing I will not be able to forgive the Yankees for is making me root for guys like Sherman and RANDY LEVINE.

    Maybe this is what Rihanna meant when she was singing about finding love in a hopeless place….

  159. Shame Spencer November 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    :arrow:

  160. Against All Odds November 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    RadioKev November 17th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Joba wouldn’t be able to last a season as a starter, which isn’t really a good solution

    —————————–

    True which is why the plug should have never been pulled on him but Cashman is narrow minded. The Bs have taken a step back, Hughes is a FA next yr, Nova is going through normal growing pains, and the Yankees are waiting on two middle aged pitchers because they literally have no where else to turn to.

  161. LordD99 November 17th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Inside information from unnamed “friends” of MLB players is about as sketchy as it gets. This feels more like a negotiating tactic to get the most money from the Yankees, especially if he really is interested in just a one-year deal. Yes, he might prefer California, yet if that’s the case, the last think he would do is leak that. He would go the opposite route. Have his “friends” leak that he really wants to play for the Yankees to force the Angels and the Dodgers to up their price. In other words, use the team you don’t want to play for to drive up the price from the team you don’t want to play for. Remember when CC wanted to play in California? Apparently not. Expect Kuroda back on the Yankees.

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