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Sabathia and Swisher among local BBWAA award winners

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 18, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Last week, the New York chapter of the BBWAA voted on its local awards, which will be presented at its annual awards dinner on Saturday, January 19, at the New York Hilton. The MVP, Cy Young, Rookie of the Year, and Manager of the Year awards  will be presented that night, along with these nine local chapter honors.

Joan Payson Award (for community service)
CC Sabathia

Ben Epstein/Dan Castellano Good Guy (for professionalism with media)
Nick Swisher

Toast of the Town
R.A. Dickey

You Can Look It Up Award
Jim Abbott

Willie, Mickey and the Duke Award
1973 Mets

Sid Mercer/Dick Young Player of the Year
Miguel Cabrera

Babe Ruth Award (for postseason excellence)
Pablo Sandoval

William Slocum-Jack Lang Long and Meritorious Service Award
Chipper Jones

Arthur and Milton Richman You Gotta Have Heart Award
Michael Weiner and Jim Duquette
MLBPA executive director Weiner has been treated for a brain tumor, while former Mets GM Duquette donated a kidney to his 10-year-old daughter, Lindsey.

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112 Responses to “Sabathia and Swisher among local BBWAA award winners”

  1. blake November 18th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    @mlbtraderumors: “A Very High Likelihood” Justin Upton Won’t Be Traded http://t.co/GL8uCKt7 #mlb

    Whatever…..they did announce that two of the new teams in his no trade are the Jays and mariners

  2. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    I really do not understand cashman’s plan of ‘wait till the last second to deal with 2014′. If you wait until 2014 to deal with 2014 you only have the free agent class of 2013, instead of the free agent class of 2011,2012, and 2013.

  3. austinmac November 18th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    It seems Cashman’s plan tnegate 15 spots on the 25 man roster to be vacant in 2014. To what end? It just defers the solution, or more likely, defeats one.

  4. austinmac November 18th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    To replace

  5. Nick in SF November 18th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    If that’s his plan, I wouldn’t understand it either. Maybe it’s not really plan? Maybe:

    1) He has no plan at all, not even waiting until the last second. This is a bad scenario too.

    2) Maybe his plan is to go to ownership at some point and suggest that the potential negative repercussions of getting and staying below the cap through 2014 are too risky and they should go over.

    3) Maybe he has some other plan.

  6. austinmac November 18th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    I vote plan no. 2. Only with my goodwill, but no money for Hal. Sorry.

  7. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    If that’s his plan, I wouldn’t understand it either. Maybe it’s not really plan?

    Maybe, but its the one being posited by Joel Sherman who I think generally has good insight into the front office. If they sign no one to a multi-year deal this offseason, then it will be pretty obvious that is there plan.

    If Cashman goes with #2, then they will still only have the pick of the 2014 offseason, which means they will be in a position of having to desperately overpay.

  8. Nick in SF November 18th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Maybe the plan is to bombard Arod’s inbox with skydiving/bullfighting/hang-gliding groupons.

  9. blake November 18th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    “I really do not understand cashman’s plan of ‘wait till the last second to deal with 2014″

    If that’s their plan…..then I’m not even sure it can be called a plan

  10. blake November 18th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    I think it’s possible that the Yankees would love to make trades this winter to get what they need but that they just don’t have the chips to get it done…… And that they don’t like the free agent choices because either Hal won’t approve the money or because they don’t like the players….,.

    Perhaps the plan is to close their eyes and hope the current team can make the playoffs one more year and then either the kids will help or be closer to the big leagues so that they can actually get what they need via trade.

    I would love for them to improve….. Without spending any money it’s tough to see how they can though…..we don’t know if they can acquire an Upton or one of the Royals guys or Chase Headley…..and they won’t sign Hamilton or Greinke…..somewhat else is there to do……

  11. blake November 18th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    So what else

  12. Duh Innings II November 18th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    All the Yanks have to do this offseason is re-sign Rivera, Pettitte, Suzuki, Chavez, and Ibanez for 2013 only, Soriano and Martin through 2014, and sign Joakim Soria for 2013.

    That’s it.

    Rotation – Sabathia / Hughes / Pettitte / Nova / Phelps

    The Best Bullpen In MLB – Rivera / Robertson / Soriano / Soria / Aardsma / Logan / Rapada

    Bench – Stewart / Chavez / Nix / Dickerson

    Starting Nine / Batting Order :

    Suzuki RF L
    Jeter SS R
    Cano 2B L
    Teixiera 1B S
    Granderson LF L
    Rodriguez 3B RF
    Ibanez DH L
    Martin C R
    Gardner CF L

    Trade for a starting pitcher and/or outfielder if necessary.

    The Yanks are guaranteed a successor to Rivera if he retires after 2013.

    If they could somehow get rid of A-Rod before or during 2013 or before 2014, Teixiera, Sabathia, and Martin would be the only players signed beyond 2013, the former two the only players signed beyond 2014. Everyone else could be let go after 2013 and in the case of players under control traded any time during or after 2013.

  13. Duh Innings II November 18th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Everyone could be traded save Sabathia, Pettitte, Rivera, and Jeter, the only untouchables.

  14. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    Signing Soriano to any guaranteed amount in 2014 is a waste of cap space

  15. blake November 18th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    If they put Martin and Soriano on the books for 20 + million in 2014 then that’s gonna really make things tight…..not gonna happen…..

    Plus a rotation of CC,Hughes, Andy, Nova , and Phelps is very risky and is a CC injury away from disaster when you consider that Andy is unlikely to pitch a full season

  16. Nick in SF November 18th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    “What’s written under Soriano’s cap” felt tip pen giveaway and tuck/untuck bobblehead days will pack the stadium.

  17. mick November 18th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Is Sweaty still available for a 1 year deal?

  18. austinmac November 18th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Mick,

    Too expensive. What do you want, a former all star at every position?

  19. mick November 18th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    The core is already here , for now.
    Jeter, Alex, Tex and Cano are the core.
    The investment has been made and there is no room for frivolous spending on more crapshoots like Hamilton, etc…
    No matter what we do, we will compete with what we have.

  20. have a cigar November 18th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    The Thumb Up His Ass Award Brian Cashman

  21. ron November 18th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    A rotation of sabathia,pettitte,hughes,nova,phelps is absolutely horrible.
    We don’t know what phelps cano do,nova got destroyed this past season,pettitte is fragile,hughes is a number 3 pitcher,maybe,cc is getting older,and running out the same exact lineup,year after year simply is not going to work.

    Now if you rebuild the rotation,and go to war with a pretty good offense,we might have a chance,but there is no way in h e l l is cashman going with that rotation.

    Honestly,i’d trade cano,granderson,arod,tex,and sign the best available free agents til something comes along.
    I’d start david adams at 3b,and dh arod,or use adams at 2b.
    See what it would take to get headley.

    Also,montero’s bat in our lineup now would go a very long way,and we could let martin go.
    Bad trade.Very bad.
    1 1/2 lost years for pineda,minimum.
    Figure another year,or two for pineda to figure it out,if he ever does.

    Very tall mountain for him,and he won’t make it unless he is a special breed.

    Then sign hamilton for 4/96,and not signing melky for what he got was stupid.

  22. Shame Spencer November 18th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    I prefer my superlatives to the BBWAA’s…..

    I will not stand for a $10 million AAV for Martin. I will not stand for it!!!

  23. jmills November 18th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Hello friends, just taking in Bach’s right hand man – Glenn Gould. I know I joke with you about Rush, Bobby Orr and stuff, but the fact remains, far too many Canadians live ignorant of arguably the greatist pianist of the 20th century. And to think we had jazz Oscar too….I just wish we had Sylvia Plath as well.

    I’m sure you guys will find a way to make noise next season, for what kind of league would it be otherwise? :)

    Best

  24. blake November 18th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    I will not stand for a $10 million AAV for Martin. I will not stand for it!!!”

    I would for a year…..but nothing more

  25. Shame Spencer November 18th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    blake – Sure, I agree. But I thought Martin worked his way into a multi-year deal with all the teams interested lol.. I think he’s going to get more than a one year pact and I think we’re going to be the team that gives it to him, unfortunately. If that AAV is anywhere close to $10 million I’m going to cry :cry:

  26. The Return of Stoneburner November 18th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    The Yankees continue to have conversations with free agent outfielder Scott Hairston, writes the New York Post’s Dan Martin. Hairston would bring a right-handed power bat to the outfield mix and could fit into a platoon, as the Yankees have already had preliminary discussions to bring back Raul Ibanez.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#UUuiJPhJFPrR8cyP.99

  27. jacksquat November 18th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    Hairston and Ibanez is uacceptable!

  28. tucker November 18th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Hairston and Ibanez and/or Dickerson it will probably be. Better hope GGBG doesn’t fall apart.

  29. tucker November 18th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Cashman: You can always get a bat.

  30. blake November 18th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    .” I think he’s going to get more than a one year pact and I think we’re going to be the team that gives it to him, unfortunately. If that AAV is anywhere close to $10 million I’m going to cry ”

    Could be….I hope not though. Everyone thought I was nuts for saying the Yankees should offer him the Qualifying offer…..I still think they should have because now they seamingly in a corner where they are going to have to give Martin a 3 year deal or they are going to have to go into 2013 with some real uncertainty behind the plate…..the QO would have guaranteed a one year deal….which is what they say they want

  31. blake November 18th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    November 18, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    Hairston and Ibanez is uacceptable!

    It won’t be….it’ll be Hairston and Ichiro in RF and Ibanez and some other old guy RH hitter at DH

  32. blake November 18th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Sense among execs – and not just those with #Yankees – is that Kuroda will stay with Yanks or return to Japan. Other options less in play.

    Kinda what it’s always seemed like to me…..I think he rejected the QO to get a no trade a little more money…..at least I hope so

  33. blake November 18th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    If Kuroda signs back then Cashman will have free reign to ignore the offense!

  34. blake November 18th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Notre Dame reportedly will be the BCS #1 with Alabama #2. That would be quite the national title game if that held…..at least hype wise

  35. LGY November 18th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Scott Hairston. Wonderful. Another guy that never gets on base.

  36. Against All Odds November 18th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Nick in SF November 18th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    If that’s his plan, I wouldn’t understand it either. Maybe it’s not really plan? Maybe:

    1) He has no plan at all, not even waiting until the last second. This is a bad scenario too.

    2) Maybe his plan is to go to ownership at some point and suggest that the potential negative repercussions of getting and staying below the cap through 2014 are too risky and they should go over.

    3) Maybe he has some other plan.
    ————–

    His plan is weather the storm as best as possible and replace the guys leaving with in house candidates. Drob closes, Pineda takes Andy’ s or Kuroda’s, Romine starts at catcher etc.

  37. Against All Odds November 18th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    LGY November 18th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Scott Hairston. Wonderful. Another guy that never gets on base.

    ————

    Another platoon guy at that smh

  38. blake November 18th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Hairston is kinda young….he’s only 32….wonder if he can handle Ny?

  39. yankeefeminista November 18th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    A Hairston/Ibanez platoon in right field. I can’t wait! :roll:

  40. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    Hairston will spell any one of our 3 lefty OFers, not platoon.

  41. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Hairston will spell any one of our 3 lefty OFers, not platoon.

    If by spell you mean platoon, then yes, if he is signed he will play against all LHP.

  42. I Am Winning November 18th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Mick,

    You’re absolute right. The Yankees did their spending with the core offense. The problem is that 2 out of the 4 aren’t performing. That is tying up $50m+ of the Yankees payroll.

  43. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Spell does not mean to platoon.

  44. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Spell does not mean to platoon.

    Platooning a player meanst only starting them when they have matchup advantage, which is exactly how Hairston will be used.

    Hairson will absolutely be platooned. He will DH or play in the OF against LHP.

  45. jacksquat November 18th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    If Hairston hits next year against lhp like he did last year, then you can live with the low obp because he slugged the heck out of lhp. However, it was kind of a career year and previous years don’t support that split, in fact some of the more recent ones just plain suck.

  46. tucker November 18th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    If they do bring Ichiro back and he is anything like the last month of this season, it may make more sense to play him against some lefties, too. Hairston could be a roving platoon guy depending on the binder’s numbers show for each of the three lefty outfielders.

  47. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    And based on roster composition right now, Hairston would be our RFer. Which means the likelihood of an Ichiro/hairston platoon would be incredibly high. And the end result of signing Hairston means he will be platooned.

  48. tucker November 18th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Joe G. Is breaking into cold sweats with the idea he enters the season with three lefty outfielders.

  49. blake November 18th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Maybe lets get Hairstons brother to to relive some of that 09 magic

  50. tucker November 18th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Cashman is already on the phone with Andruw Jones …

  51. blake November 18th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Yea Id guess a Hairston signing would lead to an Ichiro signing and then probably an Ibanez signing…..Hairston would DH and play RF …..

    Ugh

  52. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Platooning Hairston means he starts against leftys only.
    It could be for any of our possible 3 lefty OFers, not any one in particular.
    If it happens against every lefty they face then you can call it a platoon.
    If it’s sporadic then he’s a 4th OFer, who gets AB’s against leftys.
    Semantics.

  53. blake November 18th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    tucker says:
    November 18, 2012 at 9:19 pm
    Cashman is already on the phone with Andruw Jones …

    Jonesy already knows the love is unconditional

  54. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    If Ichiro signs, which could be unlikely, as he should want a multi-year, he will not be a platoon player.

  55. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Platooning Hairston means he starts against leftys only.
    It could be for any of our possible 3 lefty OFers, not any one in particular.
    If it happens against every lefty they face then you can call it a platoon.
    If it’s sporadic then he’s a 4th OFer, who gets AB’s against leftys.

    If he is signed it will be to platoon. These aren’t semantics. The Yankees don’t have a DH or a RFer right now.

  56. blake November 18th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    “The Yankees don’t have a DH or a RFer right now.”

    Or a catcher….can he do that too?

  57. tucker November 18th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    blake November 18th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
    tucker says:
    November 18, 2012 at 9:19 pm
    Cashman is already on the phone with Andruw Jones …

    Jonesy already knows the love is unconditional

    Xxxxxxxx

    With the fans, it’s unrequited.

  58. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Andruw Jones started against 95% of LH starters. Scott Hairston will be Andruw Jones 2.0

  59. blake November 18th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Scotty could never replace Jonesy in Girardi’s heart

  60. tucker November 18th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    Scott is not a lefty, but his name starts with Hair … Another point in Cashman’s misinterpretation of Gene Michael cliff notes …

  61. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    who does hairston platoon with?
    he’s not sitting gardner, granderson or ichiro against all leftys.
    more likely he’s the dh vs leftys when arod isn’t.

  62. jacksquat November 18th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    They could have avoided this platoon crap by just signing Melky.

  63. jacksquat November 18th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    No, it’s more likely Hairston will play OF when facing a lhp, with one of the lefthanded OF getting a day off, and either Arod or Jeter will DH.

  64. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Chavez has to be resigned…who will be our backup 1b?

  65. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    who does hairston platoon with?

    The entire OF & DH. If we bring back Chavez then A-rod is not going to DH vs LHP because Chavez will be platooned. The majority of the time A-rod DHed last season it was with Chavez at 3B vs RHP.

    We’d need 2 more players who are better vs LHP before Hairston becomes ‘sporadic 4th OFer’ and given his contract demands rumored so far he isn’t going to make low enough to warrant that.

    If he signs with the Yankees it will be for a platoon role, and knowing Girardi he’ll play him vs RHP too.

  66. Shame Spencer November 18th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    blake November 18th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Yea Id guess a Hairston signing would lead to an Ichiro signing and then probably an Ibanez signing…..Hairston would DH and play RF …..

    Ugh

    ——————-

    Most depressing post of the day lol..

  67. jmills November 18th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    Hold on! Things look better for you than the Montreal Canadians :)

    Yanks and Canadians – North America’s presentation since I hardly think about Football.

    Rocket Richard vs Mickey Mantle – one for the ages

  68. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    If he signs with the Yankees it will be for a platoon role, and knowing Girardi he’ll play him vs RHP too.
    ====================
    he could be the starting RFer if they don’t sign ichiro.
    his #’s weren’t that bad vs rightys.

  69. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    he could be the starting RFer if they don’t sign ichiro.
    his #’s weren’t that bad vs rightys.

    That would be terrible. He hit vs RHP:

    .239 .281 .457 .739 in 2012
    .216 .298 .588 .886 in 2011
    .198 .294 .339 .633 in 2010

  70. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Since we won’t spend and won’t give multi years we won’t get much more than platoon-types.
    Is Choo a possibility?

  71. Shame Spencer November 18th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    .239 .281 .457 .739 in 2012
    .216 .298 .588 .886 in 2011
    .198 .294 .339 .633 in 2010

    ———————————

    :cry:

  72. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Choo/Hairston in RF could work but Choo will cost.

  73. jacksquat November 18th, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    If they have a righthanded hitter back up 2B/3B like say Adams, then Arod can DH vs lhp. The reason Chavez got so much playing time last year is basically because Gardner was out, Ibanez played a lot in the OF vs rhp, which opened up DH, which opened up 3B/DH for Chavez. This year, if there are no injuries and Ibanez is supposed to DH only, then they would be better off with a rhh backup for 3B.

  74. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    How can they possibly sign Cano for 2014 with 189 looming?

  75. Shame Spencer November 18th, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    What’s Ichiro’s market? Less than Melky? More?

  76. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    Choo would be an ok pickup, but a better pickup like 3 years ago :( Just like Napoli. He’d be ok to sign now but the best time to get him was 3 years ago.

    A Choo/Hairston platoon would atleast be productive, though Hairstons inability to get on base sucks.

  77. mick November 18th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Choo would have to come in a trade.
    How does that work as he is arb eligible?

  78. Tar November 18th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    “That would be terrible. He hit vs RHP:
    .239 .281 .457 .739 in 2012
    .216 .298 .588 .886 in 2011
    .198 .294 .339 .633 in 2010″

    Come on it’s not THAT bad. It’s got to be at least 30 points higher than Smiley Jones.

    Baby steps…. it’s a process you know.

  79. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Choo will make more than 5 million in arbitration this year and will be a free agent in 2014.

  80. mick November 18th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    They might go for the 5m knowing it’s just a year, but who Indians would want could be a problem.

  81. BoJo November 18th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    I still say Nunez has more upside potential in RF than any name I have seen thrown about other than Melky…

  82. austinmac November 18th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    I don’t think Ichiro has much of a market.

  83. mick November 18th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    Nunez is a better hitter than Hairston and could get the RH DH job.

  84. mick November 18th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    The RS could undermine our every move with slightly better offers.

  85. stanzy November 18th, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    Maybe the “plan” is to get to 189 (179) *this* year. Would that serve to reset the luxury tax rate? If so, then they have spending room for 2014, which would allow them to sign Cano, and add other pieces. I don’t know what the current salaries add up to, but Cano is still cheap for 2013, and a lot of money just came off the books. Would it be easier for them to hit 189 (and field a decent team) in 2013 than to wait to do it in 2014?

    (Yeah, I pretty much have no idea what I’m talking about.)

  86. jacksquat November 18th, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    So basically this team will be the same as last year, except there will be a platoon in RF instead of Swisher, hopefully Gardner doesn’t miss the entire year, and it will be Mo instead of Soriano. And everyone is a year older.

  87. jmills November 18th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Stanzy,….I don’t know either.

  88. jmills November 18th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    A lot of fledgling Jays fans will think its automatic. Not me, I recall the ’83 loss to the Orioles followed by Detroit’s incredible break from the gate in ’84.

    Toronto would have taken K.C in ’85 had Stieb been right.

    And then there was the collapse of ’87 wonderful thing that it was.

    At the end of all that crap, I am certainly thankful for ’92 and ’93.

  89. austinmac November 18th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    The prospective news minority purchaser of YES, News Corp., presumably wouldn’t be happy about a viewership drop I would think. Impact of the team?

  90. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    They might go for the 5m knowing it’s just a year, but who Indians would want could be a problem.

    His salary will be between 5 and 10 million. They’d definitely go for that for 1 year.

  91. Jerkface November 18th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    Maybe the “plan” is to get to 189 (179) *this* year. Would that serve to reset the luxury tax rate? If so, then they have spending room for 2014, which would allow them to sign Cano, and add other pieces. I don’t know what the current salaries add up to, but Cano is still cheap for 2013, and a lot of money just came off the books. Would it be easier for them to hit 189 (and field a decent team) in 2013 than to wait to do it in 2014?

    Nearly impossible that this would be their plan. The limit is 178 this year and they are at 129.2 including the 10.8 for benefits without including any of their players in arbitration.

    Will be hard for them to cover arb & kuroda & mo & anyone else with just 48.8 million.

  92. Nick in SF November 18th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    I was really hoping that the 2013 plan was to go big and try to get a title for what could be Mo and/or Andy’s final year…. could they please sign Hamilton for a big one-year deal and maybe whisper in his ear that they’ll slip him $80 million if he has a career-ending injury? Please????

  93. stanzy November 19th, 2012 at 1:46 am

    Thanks, JF. Does sound pretty impossible. I have a hard time believing they have no plan at all — though sometimes it does feel like they were blindsided with the new CBA. Guess we’ll see what shakes out. Maybe Cashman calls Detroit, Seattle, Arizona, and whomever else the Yankees have dealt young talent to in the past few years, and says, “Do-over!” :)

  94. Mike Ri November 19th, 2012 at 7:23 am

    Ben Epstein/Dan Castellano Good Guy (for professionalism with media)
    Nick Swisher

    —-
    Barf

  95. blake November 19th, 2012 at 7:48 am

    @Joelsherman1: From yest, column http://t.co/KIVl6csl on if Hal Steinbrenner will stay steadfast with $189M plan if #Yankees falter

  96. blake November 19th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    Sherman’s column is straight from Lohuds comments section discussion…..Im glad somebody is finally writing about this stuff

  97. Mike Ri November 19th, 2012 at 7:59 am

    Blake .. it was on WFAn this morning (via Ny Times ) . . that NewsCorp is buying out the majority of the YES network for around 3 billion……. and Hal still wants to stay under the 189 million …

  98. austinmac November 19th, 2012 at 8:00 am

    I knew it was a matter of time until the reporters see the risk we see. I do wonder whether News Corp’s purchase will put pressure on the team not to let ratings slide. I imagine they want to protect their investment. It could alter the landscape, or am I just fantasizing?

  99. Mike Ri November 19th, 2012 at 8:02 am

    I knew it was a matter of time until the reporters see the risk we see. I do wonder whether News Corp?s purchase will put pressure on the team not to let ratings slide. I imagine they want to protect their investment. It could alter the landscape, or am I just fantasizing?

    ————
    when i heard this on the news this morning . .

    .Josh Hamilton came to mind …. lol

  100. RadioKev November 19th, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Good morning folks. Is there anyone else out there that doesn’t read Sherman as a rule?

  101. austinmac November 19th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Sherman seems to have the most insight and the most investigation.

  102. Against All Odds November 19th, 2012 at 8:32 am

    . . that NewsCorp is buying out the majority of the YES network

    ———–

    Originally weren’t they only suppose to purchase the shares from Goldman? I see they’re now buying 49%

  103. blake November 19th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    The sale of YES stock is interesting and I do think they could pressure Hal to keep the ratings up…..

    If they stand pat this winter the ratings will slip….if they start to lose then they will tank IMO…..when you have a team in the ALCS and there is no buzz and te stadium is half empty then that’s a pretty sure sign that the fan base is apathetic…..are they gonna show up in July if this team is floundering or even just in the mix for a WC? No way……

  104. blake November 19th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    I think a lot of Yankee fans wouldn’t even mind the budget if they felt like they had a good solid plan to get under it and to stay competitive…..but just letting contracts expire while the club grows older isn’t it…..

    Fans need to be shown that this FO has a plan to get this done…..it’ll take bold and creative moves and the Yankees just don’t seem to be capable of such…..

  105. disco stu November 19th, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Any updates on when that Time Machine will be finished so Cashman and Hal can go back to November 2007 and tell Arod to shove it when he calls to do his mea culpa about opting out of the contract and begging them to take him back?

    With our luck, they’ll probably still take him back, give 12 years, and the option take Derek Jeter’s uniform number if he wants it.

    Maybe they would not have won the WS in 2009 without Arod (even with the signings of CC, AJ, and Tex and the Swisher trade), but had they not I am guessing that over the last few years our third baseman would have probably been either Adrian Beltre or dare I say, Miguel Cabrera … meaning there was a really good chance they could have won it all in either ’10, ’11, or ’12 … and more importantly, been in a much better place with the budget moving into 2013 and beyond.

    As Mark Twain once said, “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”

  106. Cashmoney November 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    just read Sherman’s article … i came away thinking there is no surer things when you are dealing with things 2 full years down the road. a highly speculative piece with little substance that we don’t already know.

  107. blake November 19th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    “just read Sherman’s article … i came away thinking there is no surer things when you are dealing with things 2 full years down the road. a highly speculative piece with little substance that we don’t already know.”

    We didn’t learn anything that we here didn’t know…..but the mainstream Yankee fans that do follow this stuff as closely may have learned a thing or two and the main thing is that a big columnist finally asked the question “what would George do”……if they start losing games there will be a big fan backlash

  108. J. Alfred Prufrock November 19th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    As Mark Twain once said, “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”
    ////

    LOL, that’s a beaut.

  109. J. Alfred Prufrock November 19th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    We didn’t learn anything that we here didn’t know…..but the mainstream Yankee fans that do follow this stuff as closely may have learned a thing or two and the main thing is that a big columnist finally asked the question “what would George do”……if they start losing games there will be a big fan backlash
    ///

    There’s already fan backlash. We’re fans – read these pages for what, a couple months running, at least? And we who have been railing at management and not trusting it since before January, and moreso even after…and throughout the year when nothing was done to buoy the lineup? I haven’t visited other sites lately, but there must be unrest, because the mainstream fan that does follow stuff participates on these boards.

    The Yankees have already been hit hard by STH not re-upping. But as long as they can put up a token season with a division title and “95 wins” you’re going to get the apologist fan that will die by that sword. How many people right after the Montero trade in here argued – certainly, with me – that runs scored and other BS stats meant the offense, the lineup, was indeed “fine”?

    They would have to really, really suck for that contingent to wake up and smell the coffee. That type of fan either can’t, or won’t, see trends before they reach their crudest manifestations. It’s that self-deluded fan and his/her distorted sense of “loyalty” or “good fandom” or whatever rubbish they buy into, that Hal Steinbrenner can bank on. The wheels would have to simply fall off, I would say, for a big enough noise to happen.

    I am now just hoping they tread water at least, if no moves are made, so they don’t then rip up the farm and not only have nothing to show for it in the present, but damage any chance at a shot in like 2015 an going forward.

  110. Patrick November 19th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    test 123

  111. saucY November 20th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Sid Mercer/Dick Young Player of the Year
    Miguel Cabrera

    -=-=-=-=-=

    Trout robbed again :/

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