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FOX, YES and Yankees

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Nov 24, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

People are wondering what impact FOX’s arrival in the big picture will have on the YES telecasts and on the future ownership of the Yankees.

I saw an interesting article today that tries to address that. You can take a look and post your thoughts.

And would you like the team to always remain under the Steinbrenners’ rule?

 

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167 Responses to “FOX, YES and Yankees”

  1. austinmac November 24th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Ichiro and Ross is the OF looks pretty good when considering last year for Ross and the last two months for Ichiro. However, Ross’ stats look very Fenway driven when compared to his road split and prior years. Ichiro is no longer a starter in my eyes. I can’t discount his last two years either.

  2. MTU November 24th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Brian-

    Only if they intend to compete at the highest level each and every year.

    Have the goal that it’s the WS or bust.

    And are willing to put their money where their mouth is.

    Otherwise I’m for selling to an entity that will.

    ;)

  3. MTU November 24th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Mac-

    Who says we’d offer a multi-year deal to Ross ?

    Wouldn’t that be what it would take to get him inked ?

  4. mick November 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Earlier this year, when YES was celebrating its 10th anniversary, I talked to Randy Levine, the Yankees’ president, and Tracy Dolgin, who runs YES, about the unashamedly pro-Yankees slant of the network’s announcers and the absence of a news operation like the one on SNY. “We tell our people if you want to be bipartisan and fair, don’t work for YES,” Levine said.
    ======================================================
    So much for fair and balanced.

  5. 86w183 November 24th, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Ross is a nice player, but he’ll certainly get more than Gomes’ two years @ $ 5 M per.

    A Ross/Suzuki platoon could be very effective, but also cost about $ 12-15 M a year if not more. That may be too much.

    First things first… get Pettitte and Rivera signed for about $ 16 M combined ($ 10 for Mo) and then you can evaluate where you are in terms of budget and long term commitments.

    Would like to see the Yanks take chances on guys like Soria and McCarthy. Could build tremendous pitching depth with those guys. Depth from which they can perhaps get their hands on some younger OF talent.

  6. austinmac November 24th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    MTU,

    Blake’s fall back position is Ross and Ichiro in RF. I do think he will require two years, at least, so I don’t see him as a real option.

    Blake’s Hamilton desire is much more fun.

  7. mick November 24th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    I don’t get why it matters what they pay anybody this year as long as it’s not a multi-year deal.
    Even Hamilton, if he doesn’t get a rich multi-year deal should come here for a 20m+ 1 year deal.

  8. austinmac November 24th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    I agree that McCarthy and Soria could be relatively low cost, high upside guys. There will be a good bit of competition for both, and we are playing with a bad hand only offering one year.

  9. austinmac November 24th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    I think reasonable multi year deals have to be considered. They do play after next year and it is silly to replace half the team next year, particularly with limited willingness to spend.

  10. MTU November 24th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    OK Mac.

    Understood.

    We’ll have some options at the Winter meetings if we get AP and Mo this week.

    Not expecting much though.

    Probably better that way. Pleasant surprise ?

  11. mick November 24th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    There will be a good bit of competition for both, and we are playing with a bad hand only offering one year.
    ===============
    Yanks are counting on poor offers elsewhere and a desire to want to play for the Yankees.

  12. mick November 24th, 2012 at 11:49 am

    I don’t see any multi year deals handed out unless it is a steal.

  13. 86w183 November 24th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    It’s all about supply and demand. There is not much great talent out there, but there’s a ton of good talent. People who act quickly, end up paying a premium to get it done ie: two years and $ 26 M for Torii Hunter, 3 years and $ 25 M for Guthrie.

    Patience makes a lot of sense this time of year unless there is one guy you REALLY want to get your hands on and the ony guy with that kind of ability is Hamilton.

    If the Fox/Yes deal goes thru I will be far less understanding of the commitment to get payroll down to $ 189 M. Not after that kind of cash out.

  14. mick November 24th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Why would Ross want to platoon with Ichiro?
    Ichiro would get 75% of the AB’s.
    Someone like Scutaro would be a better platoon option as Jeter and Arod would DH
    and he would be a good everyday replacement should either get hurt.

  15. MTU November 24th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    86-

    IMO the Steins are getting ready to sell in the not too distant future.

    Their eye remains firmly fixed on the bottom line. Not solely on fielding a championship team.

    They want to fatten up the cow for sale w/o producing the prize-winning bull.

    That’s my take.

    ;)

  16. Tar November 24th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    “get Pettitte and Rivera signed for about $ 16 M combined ($ 10 for Mo) and then you can evaluate where you are in terms of budget and long term commitments.”

    Morning 86

    I think that Kuroda getting 15 plus means Andy deserves more than 6 mil.

    In fact one could argue that Andy was the better pitcher in the limited time he was in the rotation. With the obviously smaller sample size due to a fluke line-drive.

    I think Andy deserves in the 10 plus range himself.

  17. 86w183 November 24th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Ross is not a true “platoon” player, but he is best when he sits one or twice a week. Look at his productivity when he sees fewer tough RHP.

    I’d be more inclined to sign Ross and let dickerson get 30-40 starts against RHP. Can’t see Ross or Ichiro wanting to be part timers. Both will want to play 2/3 of the time or so.

    that said, I’m with Blake — Hey Josh, how aobut one year @ $ 30 ?

  18. MTU November 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    Tar-

    I agree. Don’t see AP coming back at that price point.

  19. mick November 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    Again, what does it matter what they make this year as long as it’s a 1 year deal?

  20. MTU November 24th, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    Have a good day Folks.

    I’m off to work off some of this post-Holiday poundage.

  21. 86w183 November 24th, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Tar —-

    It isn’t a lifetime achievement award. Andy only made 12 starts a year after making none. Kuroda is far more deserving of a significant contract. I think $ 6 M for Andy is reasonable, just like Mariano should take a significant cut after a self-inflicted injury limited him to nine games.

    One year contracts are definitely “what have you done for me lately” deals.

    I’m okay with bonuses for starts/innings for Pettitte and games finished for Mariano.

    Just get it done and move on to some ADDITIONS for 2013.

  22. mick November 24th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Their eye remains firmly fixed on the bottom line. Not solely on fielding a championship team.
    ====================================================
    We have no way of knowing what the future will bring post 2013.
    189 is a 1-3 year adjustment then all bets are off from what I understand.

  23. 86w183 November 24th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    FWIW I don’t care what they spend. Just approximating what I think reasonable deals should look like.

    As I said above if the Yes/Fox deal happens I will be FAR less accepting of the $ 189 M edict.

  24. MTU November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    Mick-

    I can’t prove it obviously, and it’s just a gut feeling or hunch, but I think Hal and co. want to sell.

    Some of the reason I say that is just that I do not think Hal has the passion for baseball that his old Man had. He treats the team as a buisness entity. In that sense it’s fungible with any other profitable buisness.

    That and the fact that they have left open the option for newscorp to purchase the majority stake.

    If they had the intention of maintaining ownership far into the future that would never be an option in my view.

    Gotta go. sorry.

  25. mick November 24th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    From above article:

    Now, if the Steinbrenner family is willing to sell some of its stake in YES, or all of it, is it willing to sell the team?

    Hardly likely. There seems to be no incentive unless Hal Steinbrenner eventually cannot envision the Yankees without Derek Jeter. The Yankees owners will continue to get an annual rights fee from YES, now about $85 million. That will rise at about 4 percent annually for a while, and, eventually, to 5 to 7 percent a year. Through their holding company, Yankee Global Enterprises, the Yankees will get $420 million — half of it now, and half of it in three years — from News Corporation to keep the team on YES through 2042.

    Another reason the Steinbrenner family might be averse to selling the team: the tax bill they would be handed upon a sale.

  26. 86w183 November 24th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    NewsCorp having an “option” is pretty typical in these type of deals. they get first crack at buying controlling interest if it becomes available.

    I don’t see any connection between that and selling the team. the YES deal is probably more a matter of Goldman Sachs wanting to get out. It usually divests much sooner because maintaining involvement isn’t what they do.

    Back to baseball, who do you guys think is the next major player to pick a team??

    My guess, Grienke to the Angels.

  27. blake November 24th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: A-Rod as #Yankees’ primary DH? Cashman says no as team’s pursuit of IFers continues. Story: http://t.co/lHZoP1OB

  28. Ys Guy November 24th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    i hate YES i hope they make some changes but im sure they wont. sny is much better even with a far inferior product to show.

  29. Ys Guy November 24th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    centaur only played 82 games at 3b this year. he’s a year older. recent history strongly suggests that he will play even less games there as he turns 38 this year.

    they can continue to call him the ‘primary’ 3bman if that makes him happy but the #’s indicate that whether he’s the ‘primary dh’ or not, he’s no longer going to be the ‘primary 3bman’.

  30. Ys Guy November 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    im down with the $189M for one season. getting there for one year puts them in a better position moving forward.

    however idk if 2014 is the year to shoot for that. they could afford to stay around where they have been recently (just over $200M) through 2017 then it would be easy. im not sure exactly how big a hit that would be monetarily during 2014-2017 but you’d have to think they could afford it. after 2017 they can probably cut the payroll by 50 mil and still have a far better team.

    im not sure they could get under 189 in 2014 next year anyway without forcing mariano and pettitte to retire (who says they wont want to come back) and jeter may push them over the top even if they do.

  31. ron November 24th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    They are going to get one more year out of cano,and granderson,then let them walk,or sign cano,and nobody else,try to compete til they reset the tax,and get most of the big contracts off the books,then with all this new revenues,spend like nuts.

    Almost a billion as a signing bonus,then revenues of 85 million a year,increasing to 300 million or so a year is huge money.
    That is much more than their entire payroll alone,not including the massive revenues that the yankees themselves bring in.
    It is a win,win.

  32. DONNYBROOK November 24th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    You guys are getting platoon happy. Platoon in RF, platoon at DH, maybe platoon at 3B if A-Rod no longer can hit righties, where does it stop? Ichiro in RF would be the Best solution at that position. Catcher should have a player that situational hits, while signing Ibanez and the Yanks rotating regulars through the DH slot fills that spot. I’m Not big on Ross. He’s just too streaky offensively.

  33. BIG AL November 24th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    I agree with Mick, Scutaro would be a very nice addition, but, I don’t see him wanting to be a BU player at this point in his career.

    A-Rod as a FT DH makes sense, but with the age of this team, most likely the DH spot will be one of rotation.

    Also, after missing almost a full season, can the Yankees be that certain Mo will be able to perform at prior level, and for a full season? Just trying to be real here.

  34. BIG AL November 24th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Let’s look at the Yankees for what they are, greedy business owner’s that care more about profit than fielding the best team possible.

    Yes, if they are over $189 in 2014 they will pay a heavy tax of about $50M, but, given they are receiving $1.5B for 49% of YES, and by 2015 another $3B for YES, how can they cry about the tax, while the quality of the team trends downward.

  35. BIG AL November 24th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Also, the Yankees will be receiving $150M from YES to the rights to broadcat the Yankees, that’s 75% of a $200M payroll!

    I’ll say it once more, to all fans that go to Yankees home games next season, please do the following chant; Hal sucks, Cashman sucks, Sell the Yankees – Hal sucks, Cashman sucks, Sell the Yankees …………

  36. BIG AL November 24th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Bye folks, have a great day.

  37. tomingeorgia November 24th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    If anyone is watching Michigan-Ohio State, U of M just gave a demonstration that “Student Body Left” and “Student Body Right” still work. No tricks, just beef.

  38. The Return of Stoneburner November 24th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    The Yankees have “renewed (their) longstanding interest” in free agent utility man Jeff Keppinger, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. People within the industry think the team may be laying groundwork to use Alex Rodriguez as the primary DH as soon as 2013, which GM Brian Cashman refuted.

    “There is no discussion whatsoever about Alex transitioning from third base to DH, part-time DH, first base or any other position on the field,” said Cashman. “As we approach anyone in the free-agent market or anyone in trades, we’re making sure we have insurance policies, (asking) our what-ifs?”

    Keppinger, 32, hit .325/.367/.439 in 418 plate appearances for the Rays this season while playing primary second and third bases. The Yankees tried to acquire him from the Astros two winters ago. Rosenthal says New York has not spoken to the Tigers about Jhonny Peralta as they look for utility infield help, though they reportedly have interest in free agent Stephen Drew.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#P2AED9WqrCgorCS5.99

    *****

    Sign me up for Keppinger and Drew backing up ARod and Jeter – - – -however – sign me up for Keppinger more realistically at this point.

  39. Triple Short of a Cycle November 24th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Nice to know Al-Yankzeera will maintain it’s editorial approach.

    —————————-

    I find it reprehensible to compare the the Yankee home network to a terrorist “news” network.

    Bob Raisman does the same thing and its disgusting

  40. Against All Odds November 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Who made that comment Triple?

  41. blake November 24th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Keppenger would be very nice

  42. austinmac November 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Keppinger is a solid player. I do like how he very rarely Ks.

  43. The Return of Stoneburner November 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    I am still not sure who they would target to back up SS – I am not buying the company line that everything with Jeter’s ankle will be good to go by opening line. Drew will cost much and I am not sure he would be here plus Keppinger. There is Alex Gonzales and Jason Bartlett – but I am not sure.

    Bench could be: Ibanez, Keppinger, Hairston/Ross, Stewart, backup SS – then you can go Ichiro in RF

    This being said, I would like Keppinger going forward – - – -

  44. blake November 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Only question about Kepp is whether he could play SS good enough….. If he could acceptably play SS tenthe Yanks could probably have him in te lineup most every game between 3B, SS, 2b and DH…..he’s exactly the type hitter they could use

  45. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Against, I think it came from this morning – sorry, I didn’t understand the reference and can’t say who said it, but the ” Yankzeera ” word I have seen pretty sure today.

  46. blake November 24th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    If they add another infielder then I’m not sure where that leaves Nunie

  47. The Return of Stoneburner November 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    If Keppinger could backup SS – then I think you could bring back Chavez – who would provide a lefty backing up 3b and 1b

    Could you do:

    C: Martin, Stewart
    Infield: Teixeira, Cano, Jeter, ARod, Keppinger, Chavez
    Outfield: Gardner, Granderson, Ichiro, Hairston/Ross, Ibanez

  48. The Return of Stoneburner November 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Free agent catcher/first baseman/DH Mike Napoli has drawn interest from the Mariners, Rangers, Red Sox, and Yankees so far this offseason. The Brian Grieper client is reportedly holding out for a four-year contract, however. Here’s the latest on the 2012 All-Star…

    Napoli is meeting with the Red Sox in Boston this weekend, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. Yesterday we learned that he’s already met with the Mariners.
    ESPN’s Buster Olney says (on Twitter) evaluators view Napoli as a part-time catcher only, not someone who can play 120+ games behind the plate.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#OPDJI3mkbbISdwkw.99

  49. Against All Odds November 24th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Thanks mills

  50. jacksquat November 24th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Keppinger hasn’t played a significant number of games at SS since 2008. He’s not a shortstop.

  51. Shame Spencer November 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    “There seems to be no incentive unless Hal Steinbrenner eventually cannot envision the Yankees without Derek Jeter. The Yankees owners will continue to get an annual rights fee from YES, now about $85 million. That will rise at about 4 percent annually for a while, and, eventually, to 5 to 7 percent a year. Through their holding company, Yankee Global Enterprises, the Yankees will get $420 million — half of it now, and half of it in three years — from News Corporation to keep the team on YES through 2042.”

    ———————-

    JLo Yankees.

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

  52. Shame Spencer November 24th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    I wonder if they’re engaging Chavez at all or if he plans to retire.

    I gotta say, I’m a little surprised to hear they’re pursuing an IFer with Nix, Nunez, and Adams all in-house, already. I wonder who they’re seriously looking at.

  53. Triple Short of a Cycle November 24th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    It is a reference to Al Jazeera. I stopped reading Raissman’s Daily News column because of it. Every sports team’s home network is bias to their team.

  54. LGY November 24th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    I called KURODA the best buy of last winter. Going with NAPOLI this year.

    He had an uncharacteristic flukey/bad year vs LHP. He’s primed for a big time season next year.

  55. blake November 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Napoli would be great if he could catch full time…..he has caught over 80 games one time in his career…..

  56. austinmac November 24th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    Napoli reportedly wants four years. Not happening with the Yankees.

  57. theREALkevin November 24th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    “And would you like the team to always remain under the Steinbrenners’ rule?”

    No.

  58. Jerkface November 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Yea as much as it would be cool to have Napoli for 2 years, he is going to end up with 3-4 years and at a price the Yankees can’t afford to pay :(

  59. DONNYBROOK November 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    I keep telling you guys that Nunez has Far greater trade value than given credit for on this Blog. IF, the Yanks are chasing Keppinger, you can bet Nunez and maybe Cano are involved inna trade that Cashman is currently considering. Keppinger would fit nicely at 2B, with Nix reprising his utility role.

  60. rl1856 November 24th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Receiving 420mil over the next 3 years while retaining majority ownership of YES and full ownership of the team is a powerful incentive NOT to sell the team. Recall that full control and plenty of cash were transferred to the Stienberener family at George’s death. And now they will receive 420mil more. They don’t need the cash. 189 after 2013 is a business decision. If you owned a business that was about to incur a significant surtax and you knew that the tax would be distributed to your deadbeat competitors, wouldn’t you take steps to avoid paying the tax? If your answer is no then you are an incompetent business owner.

  61. Jerkface November 24th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    If you owned a business that was about to incur a significant surtax and you knew that the tax would be distributed to your deadbeat competitors, wouldn’t you take steps to avoid paying the tax?

    They aren’t about to incur anything, they have been incurring it and by incurring it they have created the most powerful sports franchise in the world

  62. mick November 24th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    they are about to incur a new surtax that dwarfs the old one…but you knew that.

  63. Tar November 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    “It isn’t a lifetime achievement award. Andy only made 12 starts a year after making none. Kuroda is far more deserving of a significant contract. I think $ 6 M for Andy is reasonable, just like Mariano should take a significant cut after a self-inflicted injury limited him to nine games.”

    86

    Just got back in. Off the top of my head I would say, Andy was their best starter until he took a line-drive off his shin. That’s why he deserves to be paid more than 6 mil. I would say in a limited sample size he was better than Kuroda. Nothing in my statement talked about “lifetime achievement”.

    Kuroda deserved the deal he got and Andy should not get as much. But that’s probably more age related than anything else. I think 6 for Andy (taking into account 15 plus for Kuroda) is not a reasonable offer on the Yankees part.

    Have to say I don’t get the “self inflicted” injury remark either. Are you lobbing to be Cashman’s price line negotiator? I kid

  64. Jerkface November 24th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    they are about to incur a new surtax that dwarfs the old one…but you knew that.

    No they aren’t. Their luxury tax payments will actually decrease and revenue sharing will stay the same. There is no new tax that they simply must avoid.

  65. Jerkface November 24th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    If the Yankees simply did nothing & kept payroll right where it has been, they would save 10 million dollars per season over the next 3 years. They would already pay less by doing nothing. That means they can increase payroll by about 7 million per season and continue to pay the same that they have paid for the past 10 years.

  66. mick November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Don’t get the Keppinger love. Can’t Nix do the same things?

  67. Jerkface November 24th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    Nix .243 .306 .384 .690 vs Keppinger .325 .367 .439 .806

  68. Jerkface November 24th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    If by do the same things you mean do worse at everything, then yes!

  69. ron November 24th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    What about loss of draft picks under the new cba?

  70. ron November 24th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    Perfect time to eat some arod salary,and trade him.

  71. Jerkface November 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    What about loss of draft picks under the new cba?

    You lose a draft pick if you overspend in the draft. Has nothing to do with luxury tax.

  72. ron November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    With 420 million coming their way,plus interest on that,they should eat 50 million of arod’s contract,and trade him.

  73. ron November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    So you do not lose a pick for going over the 189?

  74. Jerkface November 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    So you do not lose a pick for going over the 189?

    No, that would be ridiculous.

  75. ron November 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Then spend away.
    Imo,the yankees are just trying to spend wiser.
    A payroll over 200 million is a bit too much,but if they have it,they should spend,and put the best team they can on the field.

  76. ron November 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    I like keppinger.
    Only a 6.5 k %.
    Great at making contact.

    Nice fit.
    Then move arod to dh ft.

  77. LGY November 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Most of the money the Yankees will be saving is simply a result of them reducing payroll.

    They are just using the new CBA as cover to cut costs.

  78. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/n.....#038;rel=0

    Well, I like Naomi Watts a lot. She played a dumb Canadian in, ” Mulholland “.

    I still hope that some Canadians ate smart.

    I don’t know what is happening, but I am swinging for the fences.

    Best ! :)

  79. tucker November 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Even if the Steins sold within three years, the Yankees would still get that second $420 million payment. And any sale prior to three years would account for that windfall on a prorated basis. So that’s not really a reason they will not sell.

    The Yanks started cutting payroll and spending prior to the 189 goal. So the operating philosophy has changed. Whether that means the Steins want to sell or he Stins are running this business like an insurance company, I don’t know … My suspicion is they want to sell.

  80. ron November 24th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    That is 2 payments of 210 million each,not 2 of 420 million.

    You just don’t know if they wan’t to sell.
    All speculation.
    They were also getting taxed more under the old cba with the 178 cap,and i think it is a matter of not wanting other teams to get their money,and the yankees sending a messeage that they will not spend more for players than their competition.

  81. G. Love November 24th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    We bring in Ichiro, Keppinger & Hairston or Ross to the team and I can get on board with that.

    I’d rather us sign Hamilton for the middle of the order & RF though. We have a major hole in the middle of our lineup that Tex & Arod cannot fill. Right now, outside of Cano when he’s on, the middle of our order is fun to pitch to for Right Handed pitchers. Haven’t been able to say that for a very long time and quite honestly it’s a bit of a disgrace to have a Yankee team so easily handled by RHP.

  82. raymagnetic November 24th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    They hit for more power and basically the same BA and OBP vs. right handed pitchers in 2012.

    They did it while facing righthanders in 1600 more at bats.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/st.....rk-yankees

    That is all. Carry on.

  83. austinmac November 24th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Hamilton could change the excitement level of the Yankees dramatically. I think they could have contract language protecting from drug/ alcohol relapse. Want good ratings? He is the answer.

    That said, it would never happen.

  84. tucker November 24th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Ron, it is all speculation, just like the reports saying they don’t want to sell are speculation as well.

    But the lump sum payment of 210 million in three years is not a reason to not sell, either. That payment would be built into the sales price if the Steins decided to sell, for example, next year.

  85. ron November 24th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    It is 420 million total,just for staying with yes,half now,the rest in 3 years.

    Also,as been written,the tax bill now,or in the near future would be enormous.
    It actually looks like they don’t wan’t to sell.
    All they did is sign a far better deal with yes to keep them on yes for a long time.
    Has nothing to do with ownership of the team.

    Sepparate entities.

    I just can’t waste time speculating on wether they might sell.
    They said the same thing about the boss.
    Even if they do sell,we’d have much richer owners,who own their own network.

  86. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......id=3251266

    Me and my Jays!

    Believe me, I love Bucky too.

  87. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    To this day, I hate anything Bobby Clarke and Philadelphia phobia.

    Paul Molitar, thank you!

    Rickie Henderson, you are ” amazing ” as well.

    Pat Hentgen beat out Pettitte in 96 I do think :)

    New season!

  88. The Return of Stoneburner November 24th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    jmills November 24th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
    To this day, I hate anything Bobby Clarke and Philadelphia phobia.

    Paul Molitar, thank you!

    Rickie Henderson, you are ” amazing ” as well.

    Pat Hentgen beat out Pettitte in 96 I do think

    New season!

    ******

    I mean this with no disrespect – but where is the love for Winfield? Sprague? Morris? jk :)

  89. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Stone-Morris was awesome as well even tho Stieb is much bettah’! Sprague was major even though his wife took stupid gold :)

    Isn’t it great we both won at synchronized swimming at the same time!?

  90. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/c.....#038;rel=0

    Second attempt Alomar at sending Oliver Reed

    Go Winfield!

  91. mick November 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ure=relmfu

  92. The Return of Stoneburner November 24th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    jmills,

    Are you pro-Tom Henke or more pro-Duane Ward?

  93. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Stone, Ward, Henke , both amazing warriors – no preference.

  94. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Mick,…you’re nuts, and,…..making me look better all the time. Thanks for the music as always.

  95. The Return of Stoneburner November 24th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    jmills November 24th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    Stone, Ward, Henke , both amazing warriors – no preference.

    *****

    But if you had to get one out – who do you use??

  96. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Ward

  97. The Return of Stoneburner November 24th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    If you had to describe in one word the following:

    Devon White

    Shawn Green

    Kelly Gruber

  98. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    I guess I had a preference,……Ward

  99. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    Devon White is special as is Kelly Gruber even though things want to kick him around.

    And you haven’t asked about the one, the one,………….Pat Borders!

  100. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Shawn Green,…had his moment.

  101. mick November 24th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  102. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    Mick – that is hilarious, thank you!

  103. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Here you go….

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/j.....#038;rel=0

  104. pat November 24th, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Russell Martin SS

    http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....ref=sports

  105. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    Russell Martin is a viable and, dependable, backstop. Some person titled ” Jackson” left a post regarding a day in the life of a catcher.

    Napoli couldn’t tie Jeff Mathis’ shoes Dorothy.

  106. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    I’m so glad you beat the god awful Braves in ’96!

  107. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    You can’t measure catchers sincerely by simple stats. Thurman is a hall of famer and anyone who says otherwise is an imbecile given to wreckless rants.

  108. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    One of the first female front rock bands was of course Jefferson Airplane.

    One of my very favourites is, of course,….Heart.

    Anne and Nancy Wilson. Hats off!!!!Magic Man, Barracuda etc! Annie, Dreamboat Annie, little ship of dreams.

  109. jacksquat November 24th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    pat November 24th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    Russell Martin SS

    http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/…..ref=sports

    Now that will be worth watching.

  110. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Jack, I hate to say it,….Canada might need a SS kind of leader! :)

  111. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    If we have a baseball classic, its about time America showed them how its’s done,or else, Canada might win or something! :)

    One thing is sure, when it comes to international hockey, we at Canada central are prepared to put out the kitchen sink. Bobby Orr gave his last great hockey for Canada – no charge.

  112. jmills November 24th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    In ’72, the Russians had those horrible West German referees and even the usually docile J.P. Parise was upset.

  113. jmills November 25th, 2012 at 12:06 am

    Thank god Paul Henderson scored the winning goal in the final 3 games. Ayn Rand, here I ……

    If Orr was healthy, it would have been over at the beginning!

  114. jmills November 25th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    rtsp://v7.cache3.c.youtube.com/CjYLENy73wIaLQnrBfQG37P6wBMYESARFEIJbXYtZ29vZ2xlSARSBXdhdGNoYL2Yr9vwibjSUAw=/0/0/0/video.3gp

    The usually passive Parise getting upset.

  115. blake November 25th, 2012 at 7:04 am

    @pgammo: Soriano Circle Game:sources cite Ilitch(Tigers), Yanks out, other sources claim Ilitch, Randy Levine still in. Nashville Cats

  116. Melkmanisinhotlanta November 25th, 2012 at 7:39 am

    Kudos to the Steinbrenners for selling part of the Yes Network before the outrageous tax hikes begin next year. I’d expect many sales of assets this year before Count Taxula in the White House begins confiscation of profits and assets.

  117. blake November 25th, 2012 at 7:44 am

    @Joelsherman1: Column http://t.co/7R4bjb9o Older players might be #Yankees savior in this offseason of financial restrictions, not their undoing

  118. MTU November 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am

    Good Morning Blake.

    Hope we get Mo and AP locked up this week.

    Then it’s on to the Winter meetings.

  119. blake November 25th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    Morning MTU,

    I think Andy and Mo do sign this week

  120. Melkmanisinhotlanta November 25th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    A win-win for the NYY and Fox. A stick in the eye for the Marxists lol.

  121. MTU November 25th, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Blake-

    Let’s get ‘er done.

  122. MTU November 25th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Man. It sure has been quiet in here lately.

    Things should pick up soon.

  123. blake November 25th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Yea it’s been quite…not a ton to talk about. It would be nice if Cashman could get Andy and Mo done before the winter meetings though…..then the pitching is nearly set and he can put his full focus on the holes in the offense.

  124. blake November 25th, 2012 at 8:40 am

    If they can get Andy and Mo on board and maybe add a little depth in the middle of the pen then I think the pitching will be good enough to win a title……the Yanks need to give this club as strong an offense as possible to go with it in 2013…..because it may be their best shot at a championship for a few years

  125. MTU November 25th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    Blake-

    I think the Pitching is the priority. Cashman said as much.

    They get that done and they can do as you suggest- focus on the O.

    I’m not expecting as much as you are.

    I’m only looking for some tweaks nothing earth shattering.

    Would love to be surprised.

  126. MTU November 25th, 2012 at 8:59 am

    Getting Kuroda back was a big piece of the puzzle.

    Soria and Keppinger both worth looking into.

  127. austinmac November 25th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Sherman’s article seems to confirm we will see more old guys. That’s good because the young, good players want a multi year deal. Can’t have that. The old, slow big hairy guys. Sounds like a plan for long term success.

  128. blake November 25th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    MTU,

    Id love a big move for the offense…..but honestly if they could bring Ichiro back and then maybe add Ross and Kepinger then that would balance them out better…..Kepinger would give them a little more contact and then Ross would give them more production against LHP than they got last year…..

    We’ve discussed J Upton and Headley and guys like that to death but I just don’t think they have the prospects or will to get a deal like that done…..and they won’t spend for Hamilton ….

    So they’ll have to try and over pay guys like Ross and Keppinger for one year and then see what happens.

    The obvious problem with all these one year deals is that a year from now they’ll be right back in the same situation…..with even less money to spend…..that’s why I think they need to go for it in 2013…..cause it ain’t getting any easier to win going forward

  129. blake November 25th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    It’s actually tough to see how they’ll be very good in 2014 unless guys like Heathcott and Austin just explode on the scene…..

  130. MTU November 25th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    Blake-

    I hear ya’.

    Hopefully the Farm will be harvested next season.

  131. blake November 25th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    I think that’s the frustrating part….. You keep reading that the Yanks want to keep deals to a year to get under the cap in 2014…..and it’s true that one year deals will help that…..

    But what they won’t help is to get them under and field a team that’s any good beyond this year.

  132. MTU November 25th, 2012 at 9:19 am

    Time to walk the pupperazzi.

    Later.

  133. Against All Odds November 25th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    blake November 25th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    It’s actually tough to see how they’ll be very good in 2014 unless guys like Heathcott and Austin just explode on the scene

    —————-

    And even if they explode they will still go through the normal ups and downs that every young player goes through.

  134. GregD November 25th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    I think the only way the Yanks add offense that isn’t an old player is thru a trade……the only problem is the Yanks don’t really have any trade chips that will bring a good young player who is pre-arbitration………they can’t trade pitching or they put their own pitching at risk……..and I don’t think other teams will trade good young players for Granderson during the winter….perhaps at mid-Year to add a piece to put them over the hump….but then that only happens if the Yanks are out of it…..

  135. austinmac November 25th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    I do not understand what the plan is in 2014 with half the team without a contract. It will be very ugly. I see no other outcome. They should look off good multi year deals.

  136. austinmac November 25th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Look for good multi year deals

  137. GregD November 25th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    I’m not sure I understand all the benefits of being under $189M…..I do know that the penalty that would have been 50% will reset to a lower number……..and I do believe that it is good business not to give money to other teams to finance their teams

  138. GregD November 25th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    I also believe that us giving out big contracts is what got us in this problem in the first place…….ARod should never have been given that contract and I wouldn’t give Cano a deal longer than 5 years……Detroit will regret the Fielder signing and so will the Angels on Pujols……steroids are no longer a factor that will lengthen careers……..

  139. GregD November 25th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    so the answer is not to keep spending money, it has to be spending money wisely

  140. G. Love November 25th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    blake,

    Ichiro, Keppinger, Ross or Hairston would be solid moves.

    The reason why I can get behind that as a fan as I think all 3 moves make some sense when you look at the problems with this club.

    Ichiro brings more contact, speed and intangibles with him that the team was lacking before he arrived. Keppinger is exactly the kind of guy I’ve clamored for – not a big star with a huge ego, but a grinder type who can put together a professional at bat in a big spot and doesn’t wet himself like some of our well paid “stars” do. He’ll do little things in those situations that true fans will love.

    Ross, who I would prefer, or Hairston will give us what Swisher did in that corner against lefties and if the team brought back Ibanez, I still think he’ll out homer Swisher against RHP and has that veteran knack we saw him settle into late in the season whereas Swisher came up small in those situations.

    I’m cool with those moves but fans better not start beating their chests if those guys are signed because the middle of our order is still suspect.

    The only thing that gives me some optimism is the greed factor; Both Cano and Grandy are playing for mutli-million dollar extensions and somehow, outside of Russell Martin, these guys come up big in walk years.

  141. blake November 25th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    If the Yanks miss the playoffs in 2013 and 2014 then they will likely lose more money tha they save……

    If you look at 2014 right now ….you’ll have a 40 year old Jeter….a 39 year old Arod….a declining Tex….an older Sabathia……Cano, Granderson and Hughes aren’t signed…..Kuroda, Pettite, Mariano, etc will be gone…..

    Getting under 189 won’t be that difficult….. Doing it and fielding a team that’s any good though might very well be…..

  142. blake November 25th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    G love,

    I agree that those would be solid roster moves for 2013 if they can’t do anything grander…..but again they’d do noting for the club long term.

    I’m just wondering what they think they are going. To do a year from now when half the team are Free agents because they were on one year deals and they have even less money to spend…..if they are serious about the budget then they won’t even be able to offer big one year contracts…..

  143. blake November 25th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    I still say signing Hamilton to a 5 year deal does a couple of things…..1) it gives you an awesome duo in the middle of the lineup for 2013 2) it gives you leverage against Cano next winter and the flexibility to let him walk of he wants a 200 million dollar contract.

    If the Yankees allow Cano to reach free agency then two things will happen ….either they’ll cave and give him a bad contract….or they’ll lose him for nothing ….neither are good outcomes

  144. blake November 25th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    @RiverAveBlues: Cafardo: Yankees have inquired about Giancarlo Stanton http://t.co/x2Lp94q8

    Oh snap

  145. Against All Odds November 25th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    *head explodes*

  146. tucker November 25th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Can’t see the Yanks getting Ross. He had about as good a year in 2012 that he is capable of. So he’ll seek at least 2-3 years, which should put him out of Yanks range. Better odds of signing Hairston.

  147. blake November 25th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    They’d have to over pay Ross on a one year deal to have any shot….have to give him probably 10 or 12 million for 2013

  148. mick November 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    Both Cano and Grandy are playing for mutli-million dollar extensions and somehow, outside of Russell Martin, these guys come up big in walk years.
    ===============================
    What?!?
    Russell had a great walk month…

  149. blake November 25th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Martin is going to get more than the Yankees offered him last winter….. Which seemed like a big over pay all summer to even offer to him (3/21)……the catching market is awful

  150. DONNYBROOK November 25th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Cashman has gotta sign Pettitte and Mo Before he can address other areas of need??? BALONEY. Stop following the “company line” in lock step. The Yanks can proceed on the assumption that Pettitte and MO are in the fold. If it’s me, I offer Martin a 1yr $10 Mill deal, take-it-or-leave-it. I then dicker with Ichiro onna 1yr deal also. The Yankee Hierarchy can walk and chew gum at the same time. There is NO WAY a corporation allows 2 people to bring it to an absolute screeching halt. The Yanks settled with Kuroda at $15 Mill, means Pettitte gets the same offer. The Yanks offered Soriano $13.3 Mill, means they gotta offer MO $14 mill, and target a ceiling of $15 Mill. These are 1 yr deals, which do Not jeopardize hitting the $189 in 2014. EASY-PEEZY

  151. mick November 25th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Donny is right.
    Right now they are prolly dickering over a mill here or there for ichiro, andy and mo.
    These are the new New York Yankees, not your fathers……

  152. mick November 25th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    one more thing….let’s drop the all or nothing stance when it comes to our yankees.
    god forbid they don’t win a title next year, the last year of our yankees as we once knew them.
    they are not as good as the yankees we once knew, for one.
    for two, enjoy what you’ve got, most of you don’t know what an abysmal yankee team looks like.
    nuff said…

  153. DONNYBROOK November 25th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Winter Meetings are a little over 1 week away. I hope Cashman is working onna Blockbuster involving Cano. You wanna hit that $189 in 2014??? Cano issa “Get Outta Jail Free” Card. Time to play it.

  154. I Am Winning November 25th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    The Yankees can not trade Cano for a player(s) that will better help this team in the next few years. It’s like Hal has so many usernames on this blog it’s unbelievable.

    Can’t us better than both Tex and ARod, yet will be making double his salary, and we should trade Cano? Why?

  155. I Am Winning November 25th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Cano is*

  156. tucker November 25th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    I think they keep Cano for 2013 now that they have signed Kuroda. They have a legit staff. Just have to fi in the pieces for next year.

    Just hope they don’t overpay for Cano in 2014. Can’t see them keeping Cano and Grandy.

  157. mick November 25th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Grandy is a goner, no matter what he does this year.

  158. mick November 25th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    They won’t overpay Cano.

  159. austinmac November 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Signing Hamilton could help with future cost issues rather than trading future, hoped for cheap prospects. To hold down future costs, it is better to pay now and keep Williams, Heathcott, Austin, Sanchez etc.

    If they signed Hamilton, got Pettitte and Mo back, added Keppinger, I would be ready to take on the Jays or anyone else. Plus, Hamilton hitting at NYS would fill the park and put people in front of their TVs.

    That dream will die in a few weeks.

  160. DONNYBROOK November 25th, 2012 at 11:54 am

    How do you justify paying a guy that Continually refuses to dive for Game Deciding ground balls, just outta his reach, $25 Mill per,7yrs guaranteed??? In 4 yrs, Cano will be another A-Rod in both his performance, and Albatros Contract status. NO WAY

  161. blake November 25th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    “If they signed Hamilton, got Pettitte and Mo back, added Keppinger, I would be ready to take on the Jays or anyone else. Plus, Hamilton hitting at NYS would fill the park and put people in front of their TVs.”

    Yup

  162. blake November 25th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    If you trade Cano then you might as well rebuild because they aren’t winning in 2013…..can’t see that going over well with Jeter and the veterans…..

    I just don’t think they can get enough back to help short term to make up for the loss of him. Now if they signed Hamilton and traded Cano for a big return maybe…..but they can’t afford to lose their best hitter for prospects when the offense probably isn’t good enough as it is now

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