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What did I miss? Catching market begins to heat up

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 26, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

You know, when a vacation ends, it occasionally takes a while to settle back into real life.

Right now I’m still in transit, trying to make my way back to New York. And right now my trip is moving about as slowly as the Yankees winter. But in reading back through some things from the past week, it seems the catching market is starting to move a little bit. Nothing significant has happened, but there’s plenty of talk about Mike Napoli, and today Russell Martin’s name seems to have taken center stage.

Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees have resumed conversations with Martin. It’s clear that the Yankees would like to have him back, and Martin seems to like New York. That said, Martin isn’t limiting himself to the Yankees. His agent has told ESPN New York that Martin has toured a few cities, trying to get a feel for different places and different situations.

It’s a fairly thin catching market — especially considering Napoli is much more bat than glove — which means Martin is going to have some options out there.

Speaking of options, the Yankees have plenty at catcher, but none that seem like everyday options. Today the team avoided arbitration with offseason addition Eli Whiteside — $625,000 for the defensive backup — which gives the Yankees three legitimate bench options but no reliable starter.

That would change if the Yankees can come to terms with Martin.

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72 Responses to “What did I miss? Catching market begins to heat up”

  1. Giuseppe Franco November 26th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Answering Chad’s question from a previous thread regarding Swisher’s ALCS comments……

    My opinion of Swisher is no different now than it was before the postseason. He has been a very productive Yankee that has been under-appreciated by the Yankee fan base.

    The fans [and media] tend to focus more on his struggles in the postseason even though almost every other hitter in that lineup have also struggled.

    Quite frankly, Swisher was right about the booing fans but also didn’t do himself any favors with the fans and media by criticizing them for it because it makes him sound like he’s whining.

    I’ve always believed that Stadium fans who boo their own players are morons unless they are kids/teenagers. It’s just plain old stupid behavior and nothing more.

    Now I’m not arguing that fans don’t have the RIGHT to boo. Of course they do. But other fans like me also have a right to call those people idiots for engaging in such juvenile behavior (which booing is, quite frankly).

    I agreed with Swisher’s comments. But again, I don’t think it was a good idea for Swisher to go public with it.

    Express those feelings to your wife, friends, agent, teammates, or coaching staff but NEVER to the media. That’s just a no-win situation.

  2. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Lincoln was very good, daniel day lewis was fantastic and the period costumes and all were very good. unfortunately the first and last scenes of the movie are it’s weakest. and the whole thing was just a little too speilberg/hollywood for me but that’s just about every major movie in the past 30 years, too.

    there was also this tinge of “west wing” where the solumness of the soundtrack told you it was time to be proud to be an american that was a little over the top.

    but those objections have more to do with how all movies are made now than problems with the actual film.

    it was very good and you should go see it if you have any interest in american history.

  3. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    ill say this about swisher’s comments, if the fans have the right to boo him for his PS performance (and i think they do) then he has every right to ‘boo’ the fans.

    its only fair.

  4. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Wow.

    I’m amazed.

    GF and Randy both posting again.

    Who knows what will happen next ?

    Greetings and felicitations guys.

    Welcome back.

    :)

  5. Against All Odds November 26th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Alright Randy is back so now it’s time to get Rich back.

  6. austinmac November 26th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Swisher’s production will be missed. He was very consistent, drew walks, hit with good power and fielded reasonably well. Yes, he stunk in the playoffs. They might not have been in the playoffs without him last year.

    He is very underappreciated. Let’s see if his replacement(s) produce. I think the offense will have another cause for concern.

  7. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    “Alright Randy is back so now it’s time to get Rich back.”

    …and murphdog and rebecca and gb7 and sj,…um…on second thought….

  8. Giuseppe Franco November 26th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Thanks, MTU.

    I refrained from LoHud for awhile simply due to the unbearable doom and gloom that erupted in Yankeeland following their ALCS performance.

  9. Against All Odds November 26th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    I wouldn’t mind having GB back :(

  10. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Thanks Y for the input. I will go see it.

    Just one last thing about the previous post. I think from this point on rather than teams watching game film. They should watch pictures of the game. The Pineda pictures speaks 1000 words. His mouth is open and it looks painful. Not an MJ tongue coming out where you know some highlight reel is about to happen. But more like a wiley coyote when a plan backfires.

  11. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    If the Yankees can get Martin on a 1 or 2 year deal I’ll take it. Anything more and I’d prefer to just punt catcher for 2013 and hope one of the prospects can step up soon.

  12. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    I’m ready to get AP and his Mo-ness back into the fold this week.

    Then our inside scoop Man (Blake) can feed us stuff from his secret location at the Winter meetings.

    That should liven things up.

    ;)

  13. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    What ever happened to that dude Brandon that used to post here? He was obsessed with Erick Threets.

  14. Duh Innings II November 26th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    The Yanks should offer Martin two years at $10M a year for $20M total.

    That’s more than fair. He’d receive a $2.5M raise, make over three times what David Ross signed with the Boston for ($20M vs. Ross’s $6.2M), $8.95M more than what age 29-30 Jorge Posada made (2001-02 isn’t that long ago), still be young enough at contract’s end (31) to get a new three to five year contract, remain with a perennial World Series championship contender, and have two more cracks at collecting a WS ring or two.

    Russell Martin is a better defensive catcher than Posada was, he’s not prime Posada with the bat. He has Posada power but not the slashline – not even close, so he should not be paid like prime Posada.

    I don’t want the Yank to sign AJ Pierzynski if they don’t have to because while he can still hit, he can’t catch and he’s not a long-term solution. ‘Only way they should sign him is for a year only and cuz they couldn’t keep Martin. Gary Sanchez isn’t anywhere close to being ready yet. Romine and Cervelli are total zeros. Stewart and Whiteside are backups at best.

  15. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Nice to see you GF.

  16. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    I remember Brandon being obsessed with Bronson Arroyo and a relief pitcher for the Giants. A Sanchez i believe.

    What we need it bobcat to comeback and tell us who we’re trading Alex for. Or the trade no one ever expected. Cano?

  17. Tyler November 26th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Lincoln is next on my list of movies to see. I’ll probably see The Hobbit also even though I’m not as big of a LOTR fan as most.

  18. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Blake-

    Now that you’ve seen “Skyfall” I’m sure you’ll know how to operate at the Winter meetings.

    ;)

  19. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Feinstein was on MLB radio this evening talking about the payroll and it still amazes me that many members of the media have no idea about this stuff…..Bowden seriously had no idea what the luxury tax limit was or when it went into affect…,,I like Bowden on radio but come on guys….. Read the CBA….it’s kinda part of what you talk about every day.

  20. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    I remember Brandon being obsessed with Bronson Arroyo and a relief pitcher for the Giants. A Sanchez i believe.

    Haha the relief pitcher was Erick Threets. He also liked Jonathan Sanchez.

  21. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    MTU says:
    November 26, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    Blake-

    Now that you’ve seen “Skyfall” I’m sure you’ll know how to operate at the Winter meetings.

    Yes……the first part of the movie where Bond is in a drunken stupor for weeks sounds fun :)

  22. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Blake-

    I do not care about your personal imbibing habits as long as you stay sharp and do your job.

  23. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    Giuseppe Franco! Still peddling Procede I hope?

    God I miss those commercials.

  24. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    “The Yanks should offer Martin two years at $10M a year for $20M total.”

    10 million AAV to Martin in 2014 takes an already difficult payroll situation and makes it even worse …

    .they should over pay him for one year or let him go if he won’t do that

  25. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Russell Martin comes from the Slim Pickens school of Catchers.

    :)

  26. Tyler November 26th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    It still ticks me off that the Sox got David Ross… he’d have been nice on a 2 year deal splitting time with Romine.

  27. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    Do the Yankees have any interest in Soria ?

  28. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    Never seen a catcher hit less than his weight get so much. I knew I should have stuck behind the plate after little league. Less supply = More demand.

    Yes Johnathan Sanchez! I miss some of the old school posters. (Heard GB hasnt posted in awhile. Hope hes doing well.) Glad some of you are still here and some new bloods are doing a great job taking the torch and running with it.

    Have a great night fellas!!

  29. austinmac November 26th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    Blake,

    I heard the same interview with Feinstein. He seemed to believe the luxury tax would be on the entire payroll. He also seemed to have no clue about the real cap number. He didn’t think the makeup of the team impacted the attendance. Further, about everything else he said was depressing.

  30. disco stu November 26th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    “Lincoln was very good, daniel day lewis was fantastic and the period costumes and all were very good. unfortunately the first and last scenes of the movie are it’s weakest. and the whole thing was just a little too speilberg/hollywood for me but that’s just about every major movie in the past 30 years, too.”

    YS Guy -

    Loved “Lincoln” … actually liked the first sequence more than you, but I agree that the end should have been crafted differently … it seemed too obligatory and ultimately uneven and lacked the emotional firepower I was expecting.

    Personally, Spielberg should have ended the movie by having Lincoln giving the 2nd Inaugural Speech in “real time” and simply added historical footnotes after the screen faded to black … including the events of April 15, 1865.

    But hey, Schindler’s List had a very uneven ending for me as well and that film was his masterpiece. I guess not everything film of his can have the emotional payoff that “E.T” had.

  31. Tyler November 26th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    I think that the Yanks/Soria rumors have been floated out there but I don’t remember hearing anything official linking the two. I still am not sure if he’ll be ready by ST (I’ve heard both ways) but I do think he’d be more than willing to help set up for Mo. A healthy Soria, Joba, and Robertson is a nasty bridge.

  32. Against All Odds November 26th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    MTU November 26th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
    Do the Yankees have any interest in Soria ?

    ————–

    If not then they should

  33. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    if the yankees have to pay martin 10 million a year, they should just throw in a good defensive catcher in there who can’t hit and use the extra 9 million to get some offense in right field .

    trying to get offense out of a catcher is harder than getting offense out of a corner outfielder.

    i’m personally sick of watching martin and i feel it’s time for the yankees to move on.

  34. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Mac,

    A lot of the writers seem to be in denial mode…..

  35. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    It seems like a lot of the NY writers cover for the Yankees often…..

  36. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    if the yankees have to pay martin 10 million a year, they should just throw in a good defensive catcher in there who can’t hit and use the extra 9 million to get some offense in right field .

    —-

    This might be the best option …

  37. austinmac November 26th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    The writers want to keep their sources, if any, happy with them.

  38. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    im actually ok with martin as a player but not at $9M+/year. i agree that money will bring you much better offensive returns in RF or at 3B. nothing wrong with martin per se, just not worth the bucks he’s going to get from someone.

  39. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    Randy-

    I posted the list of FA Catchers this AM.

    Pretty thin.

    :(

    By the way, welcome back. At least FWIS.

  40. austinmac November 26th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Pete Abe noted the Sox and many other teams are hiring an assistant batting coach. Long doesn’t need one?

  41. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    no jason kidd for the knicks tonight. advantage brooklyn…

  42. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    A lot of writers develop bulbous undercarriages and cranial protruberances.

    It’s an occupational hazard.

    :)

  43. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    mtu -

    it’s a bonus when a catcher can hit.

    if it’s not there in the marketplace, the yankees should just look for offense somewhere else where it’s cheaper at another position.

    russel martin isn’t worth the money he’s going to get.

  44. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Randy-

    You’re preaching to the choir.

    Just saying that the market is thin.

    ;)

  45. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    “i agree that money will bring you much better offensive returns in RF or at 3B. nothing wrong with martin per se, just not worth the bucks he’s going to get from someone.”

    yup, that’s it in a nutshell.

  46. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    Yankees like to have a significant O advantage at the up-the-middle positions.

    A purely Defensive C does not give you that.

    Just saying.

    ;)

  47. Pat M. November 26th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Tin Cup…….I just sent you an e-mail regarding The Greenberet 7…….

  48. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Yankees like to have a significant O advantage at the up-the-middle positions.

    A purely Defensive C does not give you that.

    Just saying.

    Then they should probably look for someone that gives them a significant advantage at an up the middle position, instead of Russell Martin :)

  49. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Randy-

    Someone has performed genetic engineering on the Yankees.

    They have been turned into the “Bronx Pitchers”.

    You can’t be happy be happy bout that.

  50. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    mtu-

    cervelli threw out 30% of runners at scranton.

    that was his big problem that got him sent him back down there.

    as much as i have ragged on cervelli in the past.

    i’d go with him as the starter and add a cheap solid defensive back up.

    use the saved dollars as Ys Guy said at third or right field.

  51. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    JF-

    He’s the best they can afford.

    ;)

  52. RayVT November 26th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    Hello Pat M
    Can you e-mail me too about GB7?

  53. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    Randy-

    OK. Now all you have to do is convince the brass.

    :)

  54. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    i have a feeling that alcs debacle and the fans not showing up for playoff games may have shaken the yankees management into action and we are in the calm before the winter meetings storm.

    at least i hope so.

    they have to know that running the same crew out there next season will cost them alot of lost revenue.

  55. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Y’s-

    FWIW poster “Lost” said as much earlier on.

    Take everything a a grain of NaCl though.

    ;)

  56. MTU November 26th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    edit: with a grain

  57. pkyankfan69 November 26th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    ill say this about swisher’s comments, if the fans have the right to boo him for his PS performance (and i think they do) then he has every right to ‘boo’ the fans.

    its only fair.
    ——————————-
    And, it’s only fair that fans can be a little ticked off by Swisher’s reaction to being booed. He gets paid millions to play baseball, he should be able to handle some booing that he most definitely earned over the course of 4 pathetic post seasons without whining.

  58. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    pat m-
    got it
    sent you an email back

  59. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Its a good thing you have this comment section, or else you’d never know when you had new emails.

  60. jacksquat November 26th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    It sure seems like it will be the same team as it was at the end of the year, – Swisher, + Gardner, – Soriano, + Mo, and some minor changes.

    Hopefully more Pettitte, more Tex, more Arod.

  61. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    jerkface-

    you have no new email from either pat m or me :)

    plus when an old catcher and shortstop say something to each other don’t think the first sign is the sign.

  62. ltl November 26th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Pat M:

    I post here rarely, but GB7 was one of true fans worth chatting with. Can you share re: his health? I can arrange email through Chad if that works for you.

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