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What did I miss? Pineda progress report

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 26, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

In the days after The Trade became official, Joe Girardi said this: “Trades are sometimes evaluated in the first week, first month, but I think this trade will take a while to evaluate.”

He was right then, and he’s still right today. Neither Jesus Montero nor Michael Pineda has established himself at the big league level, and it’s too early to make any definitive statement of who “won” last winter’s blockbuster in the long-term. But in the short term, it’s certainly not a good sign that the Yankees most important Pineda updates involve throwing off flat ground.

“All I can report is his arm was working very well, very healthy, very loose,” Brian Cashman said in last week’s Pineda update. “He had zip on it. He’s in great physical shape in terms of body weight.”

In writing about it here on the blog, Brian Heyman hit the nail on the head with his opening sentence: Who knows what Michael Pineda is?

Montero wasn’t great last year. He was very good against lefties, terrible against righties and spent most of his time at designated hitter. The secondary elements of that trade, Hector Noesi and Jose Campos, were either awful (Noesi) or hurt (Campos) and so, the jury is still out. If anything, this winter’s free agent market — and the Yankees must-have desire to re-sign Hiroki Kuroda — show why Brian Cashman made the trade in the first place. Top-of-the-rotation potential is hard to find, and Cashman gave up middle-of-the-order potential to get it.

Will it work? We still don’t know, but simply getting Pineda healthy isn’t enough. Every “very healthy” update is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Pineda. There won’t be truly good news until Pineda is both very healthy and very effective, and we’re still a long way from that.

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186 Responses to “What did I miss? Pineda progress report”

  1. ac1 November 26th, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Yankees don’t have a championship caliber team right now unless ARod gets back to hitting like he did in 2007 or even 2008 (which ain’t happen’). You’re relying on a big bounce back from Nova (no sure thing) and consistency from Hughes (hard to buy into based on history).
    ___

    I think the pitching is less of a concern than the hitting. I think Hughes and Nova can still be counted on. Nova is very team friendly and his highs are high. Hughes has been solid when healthy and I think you need to hold onto him. Phelps can start the year as the 5th starter and if he starts to tire, you have Pineda who should be set by the summer…. CC/Kuroda/Pettitte is still a formidable 1-2-3. Wish Banuelos didnt fall one year further behind, but such is life.

    The offense is the issue and they need to get creative and sometimes that means making the hard decisions like trading Granderson (i believe there are 3 teams in the NL East that would be interested in trading for him)….

    Time to bring up some kids and see what they can do. START D. Adams at 3rd and DH Alex full time…. Keeps him fresh and gives a younger talented prospect a chance. And i still say keep Nunez on the team. Find a way to play him…..

  2. jacksquat November 26th, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Catcher rankings mid-2012:

    http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=17623

    Martin is #5, right after Posey…

    Supposedly Martin is one of the best pitch framers in the game.

  3. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    The problem with the Bond movies is too much Real time elapses between movies. These Bond actors get old. I believe Peter Jackson has it right. Film 3 flicks at once, and release them yearly. He did it with “Rings” and is doing it with “The Hobbit”. “Back To The Future” did it with #2 and #3 and it worked well.

  4. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    during nfl camps, my jets fan friend kept telling me how great tebow and quentin couples were doing in camp and predicting a return to the afc championship game.

    thats what i think of the value of the pineda progress report.

  5. AAA November 26th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Back To The Future” did it with #2 and #3 and it worked well.

    ===============================

    Except for both of those movies really sucking, it did work well.

  6. Cashmoney November 26th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    i like kep for 2 blake, something i think realistically he would accept at 6 avv and something i think the Yankees might be willing to do. understanding that we have some depth at 2b, 3b position in the minor, then you can probably work in a bit of Adams, mustelier and Murphy. i think adams will be ready to contribute in mid 13 btw.

  7. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    during nfl camps, my jets fan friend kept telling me how great tebow and quentin couples were doing in camp and predicting a return to the afc championship game.

    ———————–

    Hahahahaha.. yeah, Jets fans are dumb.

    (There were some pretty smart ones that knew signing Tebow was a major misstep, though.. let’s keep those people in mind today as they mourn another season.)

  8. AAA November 26th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    quentin couples

    =============

    Whatever happened to that guy?

  9. AAA November 26th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    START D. Adams at 3rd

    =====================

    What evidence is there that a guy who’s not yet seen AAA and has about 115 total chances at 3B as a professional is anywhere near ready to be an everyday 3B on an MLB contender?

  10. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Personally, I like the #2 “Back To The Future”. It’s Not as good as #1, but close. Anyway, if your gonna do story arcs, like Bond got into, your better off with yearly movies. I also believe Star Trek shoulda gone the same yearly route. Financially, it’s also advantageous.

  11. blake November 26th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Pineda can still throw a baseball….good news

  12. blake November 26th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    If you put out a bond movie yearly it would lose its luster ….it’s not a trilogy that tells one story….each one stands on its own and they need time between for people to get excited about then again before the next one comes out

  13. bruceb November 26th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    The problem with the Bond movies is too much Real time elapses between movies.

    That’s what makes them so special … the very fact that one doesn’t come out every year. Bond is about the only thing that will entice me into a movie theater these days. It’s an event.

  14. bruceb November 26th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Blake beat me to it.

  15. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    They “story arced” with Bond of late, meaning each movie did Not stand on it’s own. Also, there is the actor’s age to consider with a physical\romantic character like Bond. Roger Moore got absolutely ridiculous in that vein.

  16. AAA November 26th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Personally, I like the #2 “Back To The Future”. It’s Not as good as #1, but close.

    ====================

    We’ll agree to disagree. Only truly strong sequels I can think of are Godfather II and to a far lesser degree Rocky II

  17. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Only Casino Royale & Quantum of Solace were related. Skyfall is unrelated.

  18. blake November 26th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    The story lines in bond movies never really carry over to the next film…. The characters do sometimes but not the villains…..missions….etc….it’s a new thing each movie

  19. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Only truly strong sequels I can think of are Godfather II and to a far lesser degree Rocky II

    Aliens, Empire, Terminator 2, Speed 2: Cruise Control

  20. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    blake November 26th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    The story lines in bond movies never really carry over to the next film…. The characters do sometimes but not the villains…..missions….etc….it’s a new thing each movie

    ******

    Not entirely true with the early Bond villians – which were involved with SPECTRE. The only one to not really involve SPECTRE was Goldfinger. Through Diamonds Are Forever – SPECTRE was a main villian as an organizaiton, with Bloefeld personally appearing (through different actors via Donald Pleasence, Telly Savalas, and Charles Gray) in three of the films(You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, and Diamonds Are Forever). Bloefeld was scene offscreen via From Russia with Love and Thunderball. It is considered that Dr. No was an agent of SPECTRE.

  21. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Personally, I’m looking forward to “The Hobbit”. 3 Movies, 3years. Bond should be More than an “Event” that fades into the shadows for 2-3 yrs, after it’s 2 weeks of notoriety. But, obviously the powers that be are satisfied with their bushel basket of cash. I don’t blame ‘em, but the Bond Franchise could be much, much more.

  22. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Additionally, General Golgo was a background quasi-villian in The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only, and Octo(*&^& – - – -

  23. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    And Golgo was briefly in A View to a Kill as well – - – -

  24. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
    Only truly strong sequels I can think of are Godfather II and to a far lesser degree Rocky II

    Aliens, Empire, Terminator 2, Speed 2: Cruise Control

    *****

    Some consider The Dark Knight, Lethal Weapon 2, and X2 as good as or superior than the originals – - – -The Lord of the Rings triology is in its own category – - – -

  25. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    i care less about bond films than i do about quentin couples…

  26. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Additionally, JAWS was a reocrruing side villian in The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker – - – -

  27. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    - AAA -
    To me, “The Empire Strikes Back” was superior to the initial “Star Wars”.

  28. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Gogol is more of an ally to Bond than a villain, its like saying Felix can’t be in more than 1 movie. The general premise of each movie is unconnected from the rest. Movies like the Hobbit & Lord of the Rings are telling a very connected story. Bond is not.

  29. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    In general…Bond movies are pretty stand alone….occasionally some things carry over but for the most part they are individual movies.

  30. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Aliens, Empire, Terminator 2, Speed 2: Cruise Control

    nod, nod, nod, hahahaa

    Other great sequels: LOTR 2 and 3 (although doesn’t really count since all 3 were filmed together), Spider man 2, Dark Knight, Dawn of the Dead, The Last Crusade

  31. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    I liked Casino Royale better than Skyfall… I dunno what it was.. I think the whole ‘ex-agent coming to get revenge’ plot was just too, I dunno, overdone?

    I did like the movie.. but I’m glad I pirated that sh*t. Seemed a little predictable for my tastes this go-round. Wish they would have killed M to shake things up and reassure me I didn’t predict the whole narrative within the first 10 minutes.

    Next on my download list: Lincoln :D

  32. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    “Aliens, Empire, Terminator 2, Speed 2: Cruise Control”

    Speed 2? One of these doesn’t belong

  33. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    28 Weeks Later took 28 Days Later to another level… if you like zombies n’ stuff.

  34. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Its also easier to release / film a movie like the Hobbit back to back to back because you’re dealing with source material. Creating a bunch of Bond movies back to back to back means getting 3+ good scripts, actors, and directors. Little opportunity to replace a bad Bond if the first movie tanks. Huge risky investment.

  35. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    November 26, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    I liked Casino Royale better than Skyfall… I dunno what it was.. I think the whole ‘ex-agent coming to get revenge’ plot was just too, I dunno, overdone?

    Casino Royale might be my favorite bond move all together….but Skyfall is really good

  36. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Wish they would have killed M to shake things up and reassure me I didn’t predict the whole narrative within the first 10 minutes.

    I think you watched the wrong movie.

  37. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    Gogol is more of an ally to Bond than a villain, its like saying Felix can’t be in more than 1 movie. The general premise of each movie is unconnected from the rest. Movies like the Hobbit & Lord of the Rings are telling a very connected story. Bond is not.

    *****

    Not true in For Your Eyes Only. He wants the ATAC for and tries to purchase it from Kristatos. Bond destroys the device in the end – echoing Detanate. In A View to a Kill – Golgo and his spy are trying to secretly tape record Bond. The only real time he is an ally is when he lends Agent XXX in a joint effort in the Spy Who Loved Me. He is not Felix Leiter in any sense.

    Remember – On Her Majesty’s Secret Service and Diamonds Are Forever are connected – at least in the beginning – as Bond is out for revenge at Teresa “Tracy” Bond is murdered by Bloefeld at the end of OHMSS.

  38. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    “Aliens, Empire, Terminator 2, Speed 2: Cruise Control”

    Speed 2? One of these doesn’t belong

    ———————–

    Guys… can we talk about the time Keanu Reeves was spotted on a NYC subway? I saw the video and thought to myself, ‘Man, if Keanu Reeves was ever on my subway train I’d be terrified!!’ Cause that train would probably have to maintain a certain speed or else it would blow up.. or something.

    Maybe I’d get to meet Sandra Bullock though, so there’s that.

  39. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Shame,

    You should be ashamed for stealing movies .. seriously. I guess Shame spencer is a good name..

  40. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    The Dark Knight is merely more awesome than the awesome Batman Begins

  41. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Wish they would have killed M to shake things up and reassure me I didn’t predict the whole narrative within the first 10 minutes.

    I think you watched the wrong movie.

    ————–

    I missed the part where she died??

    My favorite part when was Bardem killed that woman no one cared about lol.

  42. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
    Its also easier to release / film a movie like the Hobbit back to back to back because you’re dealing with source material. Creating a bunch of Bond movies back to back to back means getting 3+ good scripts, actors, and directors. Little opportunity to replace a bad Bond if the first movie tanks. Huge risky investment.

    *****

    Not always entirely true – at historically – while the movies strayed from the source material – the original Bonds pre-License to Kill – drew their names from the Fleming Novels and certain plot points and characters – - – -

  43. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Shame,

    You should be ashamed for stealing movies .. seriously.

    ——————

    I’m paying off 250k in student loans on a minimum wage salary.

    I’ll go see movies for $15 when you send me the money to do so. Until then…. shame it is.

  44. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    The Lord of the Rings is really 1 movie…..

  45. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    “I’m paying off 250k in student loans on a minimum wage salary.”

    How many years were you in college? :)

  46. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    I’m paying off 250k in student loans on a minimum wage salary.

    I’ll go see movies for $15 when you send me the money to do so. Until then…. shame it is.

    Then wait for it to come out on netflix or for rent and watch it for a lot less money. It’s your own fault for having huge student loans, that doesn’t justify stealing. Sorry..

  47. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    November 26, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    I liked Casino Royale better than Skyfall… I dunno what it was.. I think the whole ‘ex-agent coming to get revenge’ plot was just too, I dunno, overdone?

    Casino Royale might be my favorite bond move all together….but Skyfall is really good

    —————–

    Loved Casino Royale. I think it is my favorite of all of them. I liked Skyfall a lot. The introspective Bond is pretty cool..but I think it was hampered down by the hype for me. I was waiting for there to be more to it than the whole ex-agent causing havoc but not killing anyone all that central to the plot thing.

  48. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    “during nfl camps, my jets fan friend kept telling me how great tebow and quentin couples were doing in camp and predicting a return to the afc championship game.

    thats what i think of the value of the pineda progress report.”

    YsGuy-

    glad to hear you’re flexible in your positions and that they evolve as they should for any of us.

    last year you said:

    Ys Guy January 16th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
    “randy watches a video and has pineda out of baseball in 5 years…
    that instant scouting report couldnt have been colored by your white-hot hatred for cashman, could it?
    i haven’t read anyone who’s scouted him for real be anywhere near as negative as you are.”

    you were responding to me saying what i saw with watching pineda for the first time on video.

    randy l. January 16th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    pat m

    just watched video of pineda as you suggested last night.

    i didn’t like at all what i saw. very unbalanced follow through. basically i’m expecting to see a pitcher who’s going to struggle in yankee stadium against teams that have strong left handed line ups.

    i expect this guy will be a relief pitcher by the time he’s 27-28 if he’s actually still in the game.”

    randy l. January 16th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
    “i’d agree with that except that on first look i’m thinking injuries are inevitable with his throwing motion. so his floor to me is a lot of time on the DL, much like aj in his early career.”

    then there was this beauty:
    Ys Guy January 16th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
    “pineda is going to make you guys forget about montero.”

    that last one was as good a prediction as me predicting cashman wouldn’t survive his fatal attraction affair with louisa may badcott or whatever her name was.

    you also said time will tell, and i agree it isn’t over yet, but i think nate silver, if asked ,would say i have a 90% chance of being right and you about 10% :)

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....catcher-2/

  49. AAA November 26th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    The Lord of the Rings is really 1 movie…..

    ===================

    How does Pineda’s shoulder finally end up in it?

  50. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    The Lord of the Rings is really 1 movie…..

    ******

    It is the same as saying Star Wars is one big movie. Tolkein divided it up – it has a three-act triology structure – but individuals like certain books over the others. For me The Two Towers was amazing – with a fantastic cliffhanger in my opinion – - – -

  51. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    To date, I have yet to watch a movie at home, that has the visual and sound impact of, “The Dark Knight”. That movie is Striking. Waiting on viewing #3 at home next month.

  52. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    It is the same as saying Star Wars is one big movie. Tolkein divided it up – it has a three-act triology structure – but individuals like certain books over the others. For me The Two Towers was amazing – with a fantastic cliffhanger in my opinion – – – -

    Not really. Star Wars was 3 seperate movies. Filmed seperately, different writers and directors, etc. LOTR was written all at once, then all 3 movies were filmed at the same time. It was truly 1 movie.

  53. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    “I’m paying off 250k in student loans on a minimum wage salary.”

    How many years were you in college? :)

    ——————

    Undergrad and grad, 6 total, and at the 2nd most expensive college in the country. No Patrick, it does not justify theft. But it sure won’t stop me! I download everything man.. movies, music, computer programs… I try to stay away from books when I can.

    When movie theaters do more than project some crappy quality movie on a screen I’ll see value in paying more for going. IMAX certainly enhances the experience (at a greater, but more explainable cost).

  54. jacksquat November 26th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Predicting a pitcher will have arm problems is like flipping a coin. Not exactly Nostradamus.

  55. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    You should see what my brother’s loans look like.. that dumbass decided to go to LAW SCHOOL!

  56. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    How does Pineda’s shoulder finally end up in it?

    Eaten by wargs

  57. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    no, my position about pineda hasnt changed i think he’ll be fine but throwing off flat ground in novermber means nothing to me.

    and there’s this…montero didnt turn out to be all that, so making people forget him isnt that high a standard anymore.

  58. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Randy has some vault somewhere of everything we’ve ever said…. like Dick Cheney or something.

  59. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    No Patrick, it does not justify theft. But it sure won’t stop me! I download everything man.. movies, music, computer programs…

    You sound proud to be stealing.. not cool..

  60. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    the two most expensive colleges in the country? is that bard and columbia?

  61. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    I’ll take The Rings Trilogy over “Gone With The Wind”, anyday. I’m anticipating a slow start to The Hobbit, just as “Fellowship” started The Trilogy slowly. I’m hoping the score for The Hobbit is just as Powerful as the score was for The Rings.

  62. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    No time passed between the end of one lord of tr rings movie and the start of the next….. They pick right back up where it left off…..

  63. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    “How does Pineda’s shoulder finally end up in it?”

    I think Gollum used it to try and retrieve the ring from mt doom

  64. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    I tried to get my student loans forgiven with that whole Student loan Act thing….didn’t work ….

  65. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
    It is the same as saying Star Wars is one big movie. Tolkein divided it up – it has a three-act triology structure – but individuals like certain books over the others. For me The Two Towers was amazing – with a fantastic cliffhanger in my opinion – – – -

    Not really. Star Wars was 3 seperate movies. Filmed seperately, different writers and directors, etc. LOTR was written all at once, then all 3 movies were filmed at the same time. It was truly 1 movie.

    *****

    It is not from a story pov. While there may be different “technical” personnel (which is also doubtful given how much Lucas oversaw ESB and ROJ – especially ROJ) – the individual movies are all one big triology – like Lord of the Rings – Star Wars – like LOTR – is meant as one big production – but each chapter (or episode) has its own fan following. That Star Wars went through an evolution during the filming does not change that it is one big movie with a six plus hour running time. The fact that ESB has the unresolved Act Two ending – similar to Two Towers – shows that – to say nothing of Lucas with the story credit and Kasdan writing Acts two and three – with some assistance – - – -

  66. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Patrick – Gimme a break bro. If I had cash I’d single-handedly be helping this economy recover. I’d make it rain everyday like I was Jeter at a strip club. If I had money to go to the movies every week, I’d do it. I don’t, so I don’t. I think the funniest part about your post was where you assumed I could afford Netflix at $5 a month lol! Eff that, I don’t even turn the heat on in my apt!! (this is a true story, the other day when I was being forced to cook a turkey was the warmest my apt has been in a month)

    The products rarely justify the cost.. and no, that doesn’t justify me stealing either but don’t worry, one day someone will slap me with a lawsuit worth $100 million dollars for downloading the Rosetta Stone (Italian edition) or one of Rihanna’s many awful cds and you’ll get to feel good about it.

  67. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Randy,

    What’s up man

  68. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    “Predicting a pitcher will have arm problems is like flipping a coin. Not exactly Nostradamus.”

    anyone can be a nostradumbass on one coin flip.

    of course if you flip a coin multiple times and guess the answer each time, it’s 2x2x2x2 etc. depending on the number of flips.

    the further you go. at some point being right isn’t luck.

    the best thing for the organization to do is forget pineda exists for now and count him as found money if he pans out somewhere down the road.

  69. austinmac November 26th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Dear Mr. Cashman,

    The Yankees most ardent fans have become reduced to movie reviews. Next season they will be reduced to attending more movies if you do not take steps to improve the team.

    Yours impatiently,

    Austinmac

  70. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Hal steals money from us all!!!

  71. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    I tried to get my student loans forgiven with that whole Student loan Act thing….didn’t work ….

    ——————

    Yeah join the club.. I think you needed to take a loan out in 2011!

    I tried to consolidated but the interest rate would actually go up. If anyone actually told me what I was getting into I probably would have just worked at McDonalds.. but it was probably the only reason I even got a job. My Law School brother is still woefully unemployed. You can imagine how proud our parents are of our achievements :D

  72. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    blake-

    i’m sitting in my business after the big thanksgiving weekend rush with a little time to kill.

    the perfect formula for a lohud visit :)

  73. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Shame,

    I wouldn’t feel good about you getting sued, I just think it’s embarrassing that you steal stuff. I always thought of you as a smart individual but this puts you in a new light… sorry … I’m only some dude on the internet feel free to ignore me, just trying to let you know that although it’s easy to steal stuff online it’s not acceptable.

  74. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    “i’m sitting in my business after the big thanksgiving weekend rush with a little time to kill.”

    Nice….well you’ve missed so much in your leave….did you realize the Yankees have a budget now?

  75. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    austinmac November 26th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Dear Mr. Cashman,

    The Yankees most ardent fans have become reduced to movie reviews. Next season they will be reduced to attending more movies if you do not take steps to improve the team.

    Yours impatiently,

    Austinmac

    ————————————–

    Lol, I cant afford to see movies in theaters because I spend so much of my disposable income on Yankee games and Michael Kay voodoo dolls!!!

  76. AAA November 26th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    So, who do you guys think plays Jeter in Pride of the Yankees II ?

  77. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Huge difference between LOTR & Star Wars. A New Hope is a full movie, with a realized ending. Fellowship does not have a real ending. The story can end after ANH. The story must continue after Fellowship.

  78. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Unfortunate that we have some Yankee Fans that are tone deaf concerning the cinema. I guess they fail to realize Both are forms of entertainment.

  79. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    agree with randy, forget pineda (and banuelos and betances) until/unless he turns up pitching to hitters well.

    mariners are doing the same with carp and smoak and they can pretty much add montero to that crew.

  80. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    “The Yankees most ardent fans have become reduced to movie reviews. Next season they will be reduced to attending more movies if you do not take steps to improve the team.”

    austin mac-

    i watched so many netflix movies this past year instead of watching yankee games that i’m running out of movies.

    i may change my mind, but i think it will take a lot for the yankees to capture my attention in the next year or so.

  81. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Shame,

    I’m sorry I brought up the topic, I didn’t mean to make you angry or anything. Just ignore me, carry on…

  82. pkyankfan69 November 26th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    “Stealing” music off the internet isn’t so bad… I DL a ton of music which in turn leads me to liking new bands and paying to see their live shows (not to mention talking about new music I like with friends and spreading their popularity a bit.) Big bands get hurt by downloading by selling less records (they’re all rich anyway) but the internet gives smaller up and coming bands a much better opportunity to make it big. It’s a give and take, I don’t see anything wrong with Dling music.

  83. AAA November 26th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Scuttlebut is Broxton and Reds agreeing to a 3 year deal.

    Would seem to open the door to Aroldis Chapman, Starting Pitcher

  84. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Shame,
    28 Weeks later is IMO the best zombie movie ever. Hope they come out with 28 months later.

    Other great sequels.
    Bad Boys 2
    2 towers
    Dark Knight – With Dark Knight Rises besting all.
    Terminator 2

    They are making an Avatar 2. Hope it doesnt dissapoint.

    Does all this talk about sequels mean Pineda is going to come out stronger than ever?

  85. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Patrick – Again, I’d buy what I can afford. It’s really just simple, personal economics. If it makes you feel I’m less intelligent or… whatever… that’s fine, like you said.

    I legit live from paycheck to paycheck, like a lotta people.. going to the movies, buying a cd, or simple stuff like buying myself lunch when I’m at work are like Christmas time treats and that’s about it. I’m not complaining, I made choices and am working to get myself out of a ton of debt, which I am still told will one day be worth it.. but for real, $15 for a movie ticket? Only to see a projector throwing black spots and crap on the screen? They gotta upgrade the experience or something.. then again.. they do just fine without people like me that would rather save the buck. There’s always another Twilight that will save the industry lol.

  86. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Also consider that LOTR was written as 1 manuscript by Tolkien and only after released as 3 books. Lucas may have had some semblance of an over-arching plot for star wars, if the apocryphal history is correct, but the movies were not written all at once and certainly not with the same quality. Only after ANH was a success was the story expanded. This much is obvious when you consider Prequels -> OT vs Hobbit -> LOTR. Night and day difference in narrative cohesion.

  87. austinmac November 26th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Randy,

    I agree. Watching this team is like watching either paint dry or watching it shrivel and dry with age. It is amazing the team doesn’t see where this is leading. I predict significant decline in both ratings and actual attendance.

    The team does know they still lose a fortune in income when the sold seats are empty, don’t they?

  88. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    This “holier than thou” attitude about stealing, would have Godon Gekko inna uproar. We did Steal the US from the Native Americans\ Indians. I like “Wall Street” also.

  89. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Oh I’m not angry at all, I think this is proper discourse! It explains so much of why I get SO MAD at the Yankees for being the JLo Yankees. I’m like the JLo movie-goer.

    “SoS November 26th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Shame,
    28 Weeks later is IMO the best zombie movie ever. Hope they come out with 28 months later.”

    It was supposed to come out!!! I hope they get it off the ground. What they are doing to World War Z looks god awful.

  90. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Shame,

    Sorry for bringing it up ..

    Lets get back to movie discussion – best baseball movie? I’ll go with Bull Durham

  91. austinmac November 26th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    I saw Argo over the weekend. It was very intense, and I highly recommend it.

  92. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    And I’m dead serious about not turning on the heat in my apt, by the way.. that crap isn’t going on until February.

    ….I suppose I could have just stayed living with my parents lol… but those people are insane! My mom tried to teach my nephews about the planets and, in case anyone here wasn’t sure, the sun counts as a planet in my family, smh.

  93. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    - BEST ZOMBIE MOVIE EVER -

    (1) NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD

  94. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    This “holier than thou” attitude about stealing, would have Godon Gekko inna uproar. We did Steal the US from the Native Americans\ Indians. I like “Wall Street” also.

    What.

  95. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    Huge difference between LOTR & Star Wars. A New Hope is a full movie, with a realized ending. Fellowship does not have a real ending. The story can end after ANH. The story must continue after Fellowship.

    ******

    Not a HUGE difference – the Empire is still out there – Vader escapes. It does have a happy ending – but galatic civil war is still ongoing – to say nothing of the Emperor still being out there as referenced when the Senate was dissolved. While they were not sure if it was going to be made – Lucas had already outlined the whole story – he just was not sure if episode IV would be successful enough for him to make V and VI. That has nothing to do with whether they are big one movie or not – - – -

  96. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    gordon gekko stole the US from the indians?!?

    he musta been alot older than i though…

  97. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    ys guy-

    montero did not have a bad year for a 22 year old. 15 homers 62 rbis in that park . learning to dh.

    he hit well when he caught though that was often against lefty starters.

    very few young hitters can dh. that’s a skill that usually takes time.

    as far as catching montero caught quite a few game and was adequate as a catcher defensively.

    the mariners are deep in catching prospects, so my hope is montero is traded to another team as they don’t have the need for him they once had.

    when you look at how much catchers with really lousy offensive stats like martin are asking it’s obvious to me montero can keep on catching if he wants to. it’s up to him. he has to keep working on his defensive game , just the way posada had to.

  98. blake November 26th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    How does Broxton get 3 years?

  99. AAA November 26th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    - BEST ZOMBIE MOVIE EVER -

    (1) NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD

    =======================

    (2) GIGLI

  100. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    how many rookie of the year votes the ‘generational jesus’ get this year?

  101. blake November 26th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    “how many rookie of the year votes the ‘generational jesus’ get this year?”

    As many as pitches Pineda threw

  102. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
    Also consider that LOTR was written as 1 manuscript by Tolkien and only after released as 3 books. Lucas may have had some semblance of an over-arching plot for star wars, if the apocryphal history is correct, but the movies were not written all at once and certainly not with the same quality. Only after ANH was a success was the story expanded. This much is obvious when you consider Prequels -> OT vs Hobbit -> LOTR. Night and day difference in narrative cohesion.

    *****

    Cannot compare writing a book with making movies from sratch. And even if we do – the treatment of The Star Wars had the full structure in place – that it takes movies longer to produce than a manuscript is one thing. Lucas did in fact have a manuscript – the treatment in place – it is just he never published it – he decided to produce it as a movie – in a time when sci fi was not huge business and blockbusters – sans Jaws – were not even created yet. Not a night and day difference – heck – the cohesion is right there when Obi-Won explains to Luke about the Clone Wars and his father (from a certain pov). Finally – you have to look at the end product – the Star Wars trilogy was officialy published in 1983 – when the last movie was made. That LOTR’s manuscript was done in a different medium does not change the fact. You are holding both under the assumption that if it is not done first as a book it is not one big story – I am not buying that assumption. A story is a stroy – and they are both one big movie with episodes fans enjoy differently – as I have said Two Towers was my favorite book, ESB was my favorite Star Wars chapter.

  103. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    so you guys agree with me, the trade is still a wash…

  104. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    This “holier than thou” attitude about stealing, would have Godon Gekko inna uproar. We did Steal the US from the Native Americans\ Indians. I like “Wall Street” also.

    What.

    ————————-

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh…. trying to keep in mind this is being said, somewhat?, in my defense.. I will only add I don’t think it makes someone holier than thou to believe pirating movies or music is wrong.. it just makes them someone that has more money than I do lol.

    Bull Durham is in my top 5… maybe even top 3… but I think I’m always drawn back to Tom Hanks in A League of Their Own. A baseball movie about women, directed by a woman, with a stellar performance from Tom Hanks…. Can’t get much better than that to me.

  105. AAA November 26th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    gordon gekko stole the US from the indians?!?

    =======================

    Yeah, but not really. You see, it’s a zero sum game. Somebody wins. Somebody loses. The land itself wasn’t lost or made, it simply transferred from one perception to the other.

  106. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    - BEST ZOMBIE MOVIE EVER -

    (1) NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD

    ——————–

    This is only like the 3rd occasion ever… but I totally agree with you Donny. That is the best zombie flick of ALL time.

  107. The Return of Stoneburner November 26th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    And Fellowship does have a climax – the battle with Urok-hai is a pretty big deal – – - – big characters go down – some redeem themselves – - – -

  108. blake November 26th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    LOTR was written and filmed as one movie….Star Wars was not…..there was no time lapse between when the Fellowship of the Ring ended and when the Two Towers began….. Etc…….

  109. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh…. trying to keep in mind this is being said, somewhat?, in my defense.. I will only add I don’t think it makes someone holier than thou to believe pirating movies or music is wrong.. it just makes them someone that has more money than I do lol.

    I responded with “What.” to what he said because I can’t follow the logic in that post. Gordon Gekko wouldn’t like what i have to say? Does that mean I’m trying to please Gordon Gekko? And we stole the US from Native Americans .. how is this related again? WHAAATTT

    Donny just hurts my brain, had nothing to do with you Shame :)

  110. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    “how many rookie of the year votes the ‘generational jesus’ get this year?”

    how many 22 year old catchers were in the running?

    i think you underestimate the value of laying a base of experience down as a young catcher. it’s an apprenticeship. it takes time.

    montero did something really valuable. he showed up and played. he didn’t have a bad back or bad shoulder and didn’t sit because his tummy hurt.

    the kid got in a solid valuable year logging catching innings and over 500 mlb at bats.

    that’s going to pay off for some team down the road.

  111. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    - BEST BASEBALL MOVIE -

    (1) THE NATURAL – Randy Newman’s score also makes this flic absolutely soar.

    (2) THE SANDLOT – This, is The Game we grew up with.

    (3) FIELD OF DREAMS – James Earl Jones’s dissertation on Baseball, says Exactly what we feel.

  112. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    so you guys agree with me, the trade is still a wash…

    —————-

    One played last year and the other didn’t…..?

    Hopefully (not for real, but for LoHud’s sake) Montero will just miss the whole year next year to create a more evenly matched comparison going forward.

    Maybe I’m just annoyed by Montero because we’re begging Russell Martin to stay..

  113. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    LOTR is literally one 9 hour long movie that was chopped into 3 parts. Star wars is not.

  114. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Not a HUGE difference – the Empire is still out there – Vader escapes. It does have a happy ending – but galatic civil war is still ongoing – to say nothing of the Emperor still being out there as referenced when the Senate was dissolved. While they were not sure if it was going to be made – Lucas had already outlined the whole story – he just was not sure if episode IV would be successful enough for him to make V and VI. That has nothing to do with whether they are big one movie or not – – – -

    Cannot compare writing a book with making movies from sratch. And even if we do – the treatment of The Star Wars had the full structure in place – that it takes movies longer to produce than a manuscript is one thing. Lucas did in fact have a manuscript – the treatment in place – it is just he never published it – he decided to produce it as a movie – in a time when sci fi was not huge business and blockbusters – sans Jaws – were not even created yet. Not a night and day difference – heck – the cohesion is right there when Obi-Won explains to Luke about the Clone Wars and his father (from a certain pov).

    ANH has an unequivocal ending. The Empire’s main projection of power is destroyed, a long with all of its top brass, the rebels are victorious, Han is redeemed & gets the money to pay off Jabba, and everyone gets medals (except Chewie). His original treatment has very little resemblance to the OT’s final product. All this talk about Lucas having the entire thing planned out is bunk. It is, as I said, apocryphal. Your evidence is in fact evidence that works in my favor, because the back story laid down in ANH is completely at odds with the prequels. This is because Lucas did not have a full treatment of the entire story written out.

    He is a businessman first, an artist second. He copped Hidden Fortress for ANH, it was successful, so he made more movies. It is 100% different from Tolkien writing and conceiving the entire story of LOTR which is designed from the start to be interconnected with his middle earth. Lucas got a hit in ANH and expanded it.

  115. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Donny just hurts my brain, had nothing to do with you Shame :)

    ——————

    No dude, you and I were both ‘what.’-ing and ‘uhhhhhhhhh’-ing at the same thing there. I want Donny to pose non-linear points as much as possible, but not charge people with being holier than thou in the process. That’s just personal, we don’t need that.

    I quite like Donny’s weird logic sometimes because it throws all the moderately crazy things we say on here into perspective.

    Another family fact: According to my mother, Thanksgiving first began when the pilgrims came to the United States in the 1800′s. ……….This is why I like Donny.

  116. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    And Fellowship does have a climax – the battle with Urok-hai is a pretty big deal – – – – big characters go down – some redeem themselves – – – -

    Having an action climax != resolution of the story. You’d have a point if ANH ended with the Falcon escaping from the Death Star.

  117. blake November 26th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    1. Bill Durham
    2. Field of dreams
    3. The Natural

  118. blake November 26th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Bull durham

  119. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Han is redeemed & gets the money to pay off Jabba, and everyone gets medals (except Chewie).

    ——————-

    Still mad about this………

  120. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    “so you guys agree with me, the trade is still a wash…”

    time will tell as you said, but i’d say at this point it’s 90/10 that montero has a more valuable career than pineda’s.

    i have a complex algorithm that helps me comes up with this percentage, but it’s proprietary stuff so i can’t tell you how i do it :)

  121. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    “i think you underestimate the value of laying a base of experience down as a young catcher”

    change catcher to pitcher and you have pineda. one season of experience each.

    as a wise man once said, “Neither Jesus Montero nor Michael Pineda has established himself at the big league level, and it’s too early to make any definitive statement of who “won” last winter’s blockbuster in the long-term.”

    shorten that to ” its still a wash”

  122. Patrick November 26th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    All this talk of Star Wars vs LOTR gives me an idea. Get Peter Jackson to write and direct Star Wars 7-9 like he did with LOTR and The Hobbit!

  123. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Gary Cooper in Pride of the Yankees was pretty awesome..

  124. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    i will agree with you that if the yankees bring back essentially the same team next season, im going to be watching alot more netflix and alot less yankees baseball.

  125. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    ‘ shorten that to ” its still a wash” ‘

    so you’d be willing to bet 50/50 on who has the better career ?

    we’ll let jerkface pick an appropriate overall statistical measure that involves ,among other things park factors.

  126. bruceb November 26th, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    Bill Durham would probably have been better! Not a big fan of sports movies…and that includes Seabiscuit.

  127. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    I am not saying that the star wars trilogies are not attempting to tell a story, but one has to look in the overall effectiveness of the methods being discussed here. Making 3 movies at once works when you are breaking up 1 story into 3 movies (their effectiveness as movies notwithstanding). It works less well when you’re doing something more serialized (Bond or Star Wars).

    Lucas’ original inspiration were old serials, where there is an over-arching plot but the story of each episode is mostly served by its new and independent locations/actions.

  128. kd November 26th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    what’s up randy?

    you’re right about montero. he played. he didn’t pull any prima dona junk. he played when they wrote his name on the lineup card

    he’s gonna hit. in this day and age, in a pitcher’s park, 15/62 is pretty solid. we’re in the testing era folks. in a neutral or hitters park, he’s putting up solid 1b numbers at 22.

    i hope the mariners trade him back to us one day

  129. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Peter Jackson gets almost all the credit, but he does have a partner.
    Gary Cooper athletically, was Almost as bad as William Bendix. Both were Horrible, whether throwing or swinging a bat. Redford and Cosner were extremely good in that area.

  130. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Lets recast Star Wars with NY Yankees..

    Darth Vader – Girardi
    Jabba – Joba
    Chewie – CC
    Luke – Jeter
    Princess Leia – Kim Jones

    …………who is our Hans?!

  131. RMS November 26th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    What are the Yankees going to do with all their back-up catchers?

  132. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Cooper wasn’t an athlete, no.. but I liked how he played the quiet moments of that film.

  133. jacksquat November 26th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    I’m not forgetting about Pineda, I am following his progress. If his shoulder heals up well he can still be very important to the team. I’m not counting on him for 2013 (although I hope he can help in the second half sometime), but 2014+ he could be important.

    Predicting an injury based on how he followed through is bunk. Lots of pitchers rotate and/or fall off to the side. The inverted W thing is bunk also.

  134. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    RMS November 26th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    What are the Yankees going to do with all their back-up catchers?

    —————–

    Hope they form together like this http://images2.wikia.nocookie......gazord.jpg to create one, whole full time catcher.

  135. bruceb November 26th, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Princess Leia – Kim Jones

    Not a big fan then of Meredith Marakovits, Shame? Don’t know why YES replaced Kim Jones with a Kim Jones clone. She’s very professional, if lacking a bit in personality.

    Eric Chavez for Hans Solo.

  136. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Maybe CC is Hans and Chewie is… David Wells.

  137. pkyankfan69 November 26th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    bruceb November 26th, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Not a big fan then of Meredith Marakovits, Shame? Don’t know why YES replaced Kim Jones with a Kim Jones clone. She’s very professional, if lacking a bit in personality.
    ————————————————

    Kim Jones left for the NFL network… Even though I am on the younger side I find Kim Jones much better looking than MM… MM is built like a linebacker.

  138. bruceb November 26th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    MM is built like a linebacker.

    No jokes about going in for the tackle please!

  139. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    assuming pineda stays with the yankees and montero with seattle, the park factor is pretty even, i’d say without looking up any stats. unfortunately for both of them, the pitcher is in the hitters park and the hitter is in the pitcher’s park.

    i heard they are going to bring in the fences in seattle though, but montero only had 11 doubles in that huge park so shorter fences may not help him as much as it would seem.

    i wish they could move the RF fence out at NYS but they didn’t engineer any flexibility into the park, even though experiences at just about every other new ballpark would have indicated that they should have.

  140. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    NYS is a lot fairer to pitchers than Safe Co is to Hitters. SafeCo has more to deal with than dimensions, atmosphere and how the ball carries there.

  141. LGY November 26th, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    The Yankees might only end up getting 3 years of service time from Pineda because of this injury.

    The trade is most definitely not a wash.

  142. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    “i wish they could move the RF fence out at NYS but they didn’t engineer any flexibility into the park,”

    can’t they move home plate back in yankee stadium?

    no one sits behind it anyway.

  143. LGY November 26th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    YS is an above average hitters park.

    SafeCo is an extreme pitchers park

  144. saucY November 26th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Can Ichiro be an ewok or is he too skinny?

  145. blake November 26th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    At least Campos will probably only need TJS at some point soon :|

  146. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    i’d have to think that the kim jones/meredith morokovits (sp) job would be stifling. no opinions, never a bad word to be said, just smile and ask the questions we tell you to ask and dont rock the boat.

    kim seems quite a bit fiestier than that job allowed her to be and she clearly loves covering football much more than working for YES. good for her.

    as for meredith, she’s pretty much wallpaper like kim used to be.

  147. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    So Longoria gets a 10 yr 100 mil. How does teams like the Rays keep their players with cheap contracts and we have to pay 3 times as much for our so called home team discounts? Im starting to think maybe the Rays are using Jedi mind power on their players.

    PS. I still wouldnt give anyone a 10 year for even $10 a year contract. 5 MAX.

  148. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    “i wish they could move the RF fence out at NYS but they didn’t engineer any flexibility into the park,”

    can’t they move home plate back in yankee stadium?

    no one sits behind it anyway.

    —————————

    :lol:

    Seriously randy, it’s good to have you back.

    Let’s please let Pineda start a game for us before calling anything about the trade.

    The reason we still care about Montero is starting to have more to do with Martin than Pineda… Russell Martin is about to take us to the bank. What world is this.

  149. bruceb November 26th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Good point, YS. Not only that but you get cheap champagne poured over your head come the end of the season. Not such a glamorous job after all

  150. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    saucY November 26th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Can Ichiro be an ewok or is he too skinny?

    ——————–

    Hmmm… no I approve.

    Although I saw him more as C3PO, personally.

  151. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    getting rid of the ‘inside the moat’ seats and moving the field back would solve the park’s three biggest problems, the upper deck would be back where it should be, over the field,the fat cat seats would be gone and maybe someone would actually sit there during the game and a homer to RF would actually be a major league home run.

  152. bruceb November 26th, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Kim seems to be more of a newshound and had some interesting opinions on the Penn State scandal. For all we know, Meredith may be a fine news reporter too, but she doesn’t get much opportunity to express her personality interviewing the likes of ARod and Jeter.

  153. CompassRosy November 26th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    AFL Top 25…
    (3 M’s, 1 Yank, 0 Red Sox)

    “The following list of 25 prospects was chosen not solely based on performance during the AFL, but with more of an eye toward upside. Performance was taken in to account, obviously, with some players definitely raising their stock with how they played this fall, so it doesn’t fall right in line with MLB.com’s Top 100 list. The list was made after several conversations with scouts who spent a considerable amount of time watching Fall League action.”

    http://tinyurl.com/cxpnc4y

  154. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    which side of that contract is more likely to make it to 2022, longoria or the rays? longoria has played the same # of games as arod the last 3 seasons and the rays have no fans and worse, no revenue of their own.

  155. saucY November 26th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Although I saw him more as C3PO, personally.

    —-

    too short ;)

  156. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    Hung Solo(Yes I changed the spelling a tad) is obviously Alex’s role. He always seems to be the black sheep of the crew and hits on someones sister during a serious situation.

  157. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Ichiro is way too dynamic to be C3PO. Johnny Damon’s fielding in 2009 was the epitome of C-3PO.

  158. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    And you guys are missing the point. The Yankees are all bounty hunters + The Empire. AJ Burnett is Admiral Ozzel.

  159. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    SoS November 26th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    Hung Solo(Yes I changed the spelling a tad) is obviously Alex’s role. He always seems to be the black sheep of the crew and hits on someones sister during a serious situation.

    —————–

    I actually had Hans as Arod initially but Hans also needs to have some grit to him… not quite Gardner gritty, but at least a little gritty.

    I think Arod is JarJar.. he just wants to be liked but no one is buying into it because he showed up too late.

  160. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    We’re not the Empire anymore :(

    We’re some former fly girl (JLo) masquerading as Elizabeth Taylor.

  161. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    alex is working on trying to lose a little weight for next year, but he may have gone a little too far…

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi.....eleton.jpg

  162. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Mo as Lando Calrissian even though Nunez looks more like him.

  163. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    I know you guys weren’t the target audience but I hope some of you caught Liz and Dick because your wives made you watch it….

    Only Lifetime could make Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton so utterly boring. It was like watching two cheese sandwiches argue over which will get a bit of mayonnaise.

  164. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    “Seriously randy, it’s good to have you back.

    Let’s please let Pineda start a game for us before calling anything about the trade.”

    shame spencer-

    as far as me posting, i’ve decided as mies van der rohe said : ” less is more”.

    i’ve always battled with deciding whether or not sports was worth my time or not. actually playing has health benefits. watching not so much.

    the fact that pineda has not started a game for the yankees because of a serious injury is a reason to tilt the odds very much against pineda.

    i’d seriously say that there is only about a 10% chance that pineda will be a starter five years into his career.

    i make fun about my algorithms because there are of course none, but from what i have seen in the game pineda looks nothing like any really good starter i’ve ever seen. he does look like a lot of relievers i have seen.

    pineda is not the problem the yankees have right now. their problem is the methodology that brought pineda into their system. their problem is much bigger than any one player like pineda.

    they are simply not a progressive organization right now.
    they are behind the times.

  165. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    I thought Jar Jar would have been Cano.
    Count do ku Cashman.
    Ob1 – Girardi

  166. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    i actually intended to watch liz and dick until i read a review of it (the times maybe?) that totally ripped it up. the reviewer agreed with you that it was boooooooring! so i went and saw lincoln instead.

  167. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    “pineda is not the problem the yankees have right now. their problem is the methodology that brought pineda into their system. their problem is much bigger than any one player like pineda.”

    Too true.

    Ys – SO boring. How do you even make those two boring?! It was sad. It was like doing a biopic of the Boss and having it come out BORING.

  168. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Y’s Guy,
    Lol nice. Might need those black sticks to keep him together for the year. The man needs to get on some Ortiz shakes to get his second wind in this life long contract hes playing through. Maybe some Melky treats.

  169. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Wow I just learned that the Dodger’s bankruptcy settlement included a cap on reported income from any TV deal at 84 million. So for revenue sharing purposes the Dodgers 250 million a year will only count as 84, meaning they will pay a fraction of it back into the revenue sharing pot. The Yankees will be paying 34% of the whole shebang by comparison.

    The Dodgers are officially the richest team in the game.

  170. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    “pineda is not the problem the yankees have right now. their problem is the methodology that brought pineda into their system. their problem is much bigger than any one player like pineda.

    they are simply not a progressive organization right now.
    they are behind the times.”

    You don’t like big hairy monster ball?

  171. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    “getting rid of the ‘inside the moat’ seats and moving the field back would solve the park’s three biggest problems, the upper deck would be back where it should be, over the field,the fat cat seats would be gone and maybe someone would actually sit there during the game and a homer to RF would actually be a major league home run”

    if the yankees do this we’ll split the consultants fee :)

  172. Ys Guy November 26th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    is a melky treat the same thing as a bond-bond?

  173. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Watched Looper and Skyfall this past week. Both Great movies, worth admission. How was Lincoln? It got good ratings. Thats next on my list.

  174. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    The Dodgers are officially the richest team in the game.”

    They are acting like it

  175. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Wow I just learned that the Dodger’s bankruptcy settlement included a cap on reported income from any TV deal at 84 million. So for revenue sharing purposes the Dodgers 250 million a year will only count as 84, meaning they will pay a fraction of it back into the revenue sharing pot. The Yankees will be paying 34% of the whole shebang by comparison.

    The Dodgers are officially the richest team in the game.

    ——————–

    Wow.

    Wow…. and the hits just keep on coming.

    That team is coming after Cano.

    That team is coming after our payroll.

    That team….. is making my heart sad.

  176. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    is a melky treat the same thing as a bond-bond?

    =======

    More like scooby snacks.

  177. Shame Spencer November 26th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    LA Dodgers = Celine Dion

    NY Yankees = Kesha (and no, I will not put a ‘$’ in her name. Broke b*tches don’t get dollar signs.)

  178. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Time for the Yankees to file bankruptcy and reap the benefits. No one out Evil Empires us!

  179. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    “That team is coming after Cano. ”

    Yup,…so will a lot of teams…..his market could get crazy if he has a normal Cano year in 2013……which is why they need to be planning to let him go.

  180. randy l. November 26th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    “You don’t like big hairy monster ball?”

    i hate it because it dumbs down the game.

    it’s not interesting to watch.

    the yankees have had players in the past like graig nettles who swung really hard at all times and had a low batting average along with his power, but he was a gold glove fielder who brought alot to the table. he was also surrounded by other players with different skill sets.

  181. SoS November 26th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    Cashman needs to think outside the box on offense like this player did. Take notes!
    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....1;nba.html

  182. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    “i hate it because it dumbs down the game.”

    Personally I don’t see how anybody could not enjoy watching 13 Ks between solo homers….

  183. blake November 26th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    It’s no coincidence that the NL is beating the AL again

  184. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    Its fun to read articles about another team’s money spending or whatever and see comments where people have absolutely no idea how luxury tax works. Braves fans are ok with the Braves horrible TV deal because “the new CBA means u pay 50% if you go over the cap so no one will do it”

  185. Against All Odds November 26th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    NY Yankees = Kesha (and no, I will not put a ‘$’ in her name. Broke b*tches don’t get dollar signs.)

    ———————–

    This made me laugh uncontrollably lol

  186. Jerkface November 26th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    And to this point, that is what makes it easy for teams to cry about spending money and have fans eat it up. “Of course its smart that Hal doesnt want to spend any money!!” Ignorance.

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