Heyman: Yankees one of seven teams interested in Victorino
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 27, 2012 
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Another good clubhouse guy from my time covering the Phillies minor league system, Shane Victorino is reportedly on the Yankees radar.
According to Jon Heyman, there are “at least” seven teams interested in Victorino, and the Yankees are among them. However, Heyman also notes that some teams are willing to give Victorino a three-year deal, and that doesn’t seem like the kind of commitment the Yankees are looking for.
Victorino would be a strong defensive right fielder, and he’d give the Yankees another switch hitter. He’s coming off a down season, but even then remained productive against left-handers (something the Yankees need). There are a lot of things to like about Victorino, but he’s far from a sure thing. As with everyone on the market, the Yankees interest in Victorino could hinge on money and years.
A few other quick notes:
• A source confirmed that deals with Mariano Rivera and Andy Pettitte are likely to be completed by the Winter Meetings, but he said it looks like neither deal will be finished today.
• The same source said reports of a deal with Ichiro Suzuki are completely false. The Yankees are engaged in conversations with other free agents, but nothing is likely to be done before the Pettitte and Rivera deals are complete. Joel Sherman went so far as to say the Yankees are not having any serious talks with Ichiro at this point.
• Andrew Marchand hears that Russell Martin is looking for a four-year deal worth close to $10 million per season. Yikes.
• The Angels have reportedly agreed to a one-year deal with Ryan Madson.
Victorino is another bad year away from being a 4th outfielder …. I think he will bounce back a bit but I wouldn’t bet 3 years on it
@Ken_Rosenthal: Hearing Greinke will end up at 6/150, as @JonHeymanCBS reported. Outrageous? Perhaps. But Hamels got 6/144, and wasn’t a free agent.
@Ken_Rosenthal: With #Dodgers involved in Greinke discussions, I’m not sure we should be surprised by any number.
Can’t wait to see how much they offer cano next year
jmills, pretty cool: http://www.baseballamerica.com.....ournament/
blake November 27th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@Ken_Rosenthal: With #Dodgers involved in Greinke discussions, I’m not sure we should be surprised by any number.
Can’t wait to see how much they offer cano next year
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100 billion dollars
Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal
Javier Vazquez will pitch Saturday for Ponce Leones in Puerto Rican winter league, per @Nasty_Rodriguez. Vazquez preparing to pitch in WBC.
Go get him for a third time, Cash.
Seriously though, the pitching should be solid. I hope we let a kid pitch in the 5 spot vs. getting a wily old dead arm vet…
Odds, I’d say at least 100 trillion
Cashman can’t trade for Javy now so the thrill is gone
yankeefeminista November 27th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Odds, I’d say at least 100 trillion
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lol probably it wouldn’t surprise me
25 per year for Greinke?? He has had 1 elite year. Lunacy!
All these big market teams are going to spend themselves into last place with the crazy contracts,and they will not be able to spend to upgrade.
We will sit back,clear the slate,and spend like nuts in 2015-2017.
Bye bye to martin.
4/40.
Yeah right.
Jerkface says:
November 27, 2012 at 6:24 pm
25 per year for Greinke?? He has had 1 elite year. Lunacy!
I feel like the baseball contract bubble will bust at some point and every team will own an Arod or two where they owe the player more than they are worth.
…..maybe MLB can get a bail out
@Buster_ESPN: One person involved in the Greinke talks believes there is a good chance he beats CC Sabathia’s record of 7/$161m.
Insane
@Buster_ESPN: Keep this in mind: If the Dodgers wind up winning Greinke bidding, then they’ll have to shell out MORE for a younger and LHed Kershaw later.
stoneburner what did that ‘unnamed scout’ have to say about martin’s 24% cs rate? (10th among 11 qualifying catchers in mlb and exactly 1/2 the rate of ryan hannigan and yadier molina)
as i said, i think martin is a very good defensive catcher but imo, not gold glove caliber, and since he didn’t win the gg last year or the year before, by definition he isnt a gg catcher as a yankee.
i like the guy but $10M could help the yankees’ offense much better at another position (although we are rapidly running out of positions to invest it in)
@JimBowdenESPNxm: Dodgers appear to be committed to outbid the Angels, Rangers & Nationals to land Zack Greinke according to sources
@Buster_ESPN: In light of Dodgers’ incredibly strong financial advantage, the owners’ past fears about Ted Turner and George Steinbrenner seem laughable.
Kershaw and Greinke is a pretty good duo
“I feel like the baseball contract bubble will bust at some point”
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“Y’s Guy 11/30/76
hey i’m happy we got jackson, but 5 years at $600 thousand per year might bankrupt the team! bleacher tickets are gonna go over $4 bucks a pop! beers are gonna cost 3 freakin dollars! “
Kershaw is a happy camper right now….if Greinke beats CC then Kershaw gets what?
Yes but contracts are now rising so fast…..things don’t generally trend backwards over long periods of time but they can’t keep up this pace either…..real estate always goes up in value over 20 years….but many homes are worthless now than 5 years ago
blake November 27th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Kershaw is a happy camper right now….if Greinke beats CC then Kershaw gets what?
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Who cares, blake?! The Dodgers are running around like this: http://www.mmodesigner.com/wp-.....y-bags.bmp
They know they have a ridiculous amount of cash to burn and a WS will only bring in more, more, MORE!!!!!
Put it this way, if it were the Yankees when they were still the real Yankees and not this awful knock off version that could be bought in Chinatown, would anyone blink at them spending almost 170 million on a pitcher knowing they had to keep another on the team at an even higher rate? No. No one would blink. No one would be surprised. Another day, another massive Yankee contract. Ho hum.
….Because we were great once, blake.
We were great.
JLo Yankees = Jenny from the block.
blake, marvin miller just called (from where i can’t say) and said “bubble, schmubble!”
blake November 27th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
@Buster_ESPN: One person involved in the Greinke talks believes there is a good chance he beats CC Sabathia’s record of 7/$161m.
Insane
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SMH moronic absolutely moronic
Don’t be fooled by the rocks that I got… indeed, JLo. Indeed.
The Dodgers will get more revenue from their TV deal than the Yankees pay in payroll each year. They can give Greinke 30 mil a year and not break a sweat. They will pay just 11% revenue sharing on their TV deal compared to the 34% they should be thanks to their bankruptcy settlement shielding more than 60% of it. Throw in gate receipts, MLB’s TV deal (50+ mil right there), and MLBAM+merchandising kickbacks and they could probably have a payroll of 300 million and still profit.
“Money doesn’t give you class, it just gives you money!” – The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
Let’s stop tryin to be classy by letting other teams be financially competitive and just crush them like the bugs that they are.
it seems to me that the value of the franchises are going up as quickly or more quickly than the player’s salaries. obviously nobody’s going broke shelling out these bucks, so party on!
Jerkface November 27th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
The Dodgers will get more revenue from their TV deal than the Yankees pay in payroll each year. They can give Greinke 30 mil a year and not break a sweat. They will pay just 11% revenue sharing on their TV deal compared to the 34% they should be thanks to their bankruptcy settlement shielding more than 60% of it. Throw in gate receipts, MLB’s TV deal (50+ mil right there), and MLBAM+merchandising kickbacks and they could probably have a payroll of 300 million and still profit.
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The LA Dodgers will sign ALL the players.
The Yankees will sign Russell Martin.
Shame Spencer will cry in a corner.
Keep fighting the good fight, Shame. Maybe someday the Yankees will let us be great
can someone please remind me when the GREAT dodgers last won a meaningful game?
If any team gives Martin, or any other .200 hitting C $10M per, they are nuts. No matter what Martin asks for, Just Say No.
Go sign AJ for $8M for 2 or 3 years, and tell Martin, good luck sucker, you had a chance to sign for $21M for 3 years and told the Yankees to stick it, lol.
Ys Guy November 27th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
can someone please remind me when the GREAT dodgers last won a meaningful game?
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*jeopardy theme plays*
The Dodgers will have to be ran historically bad for them to not be an annual comtender going forward with as much money as they are going to spend
are the dodgers this year’s angel?
or this year’s marlins?
the most memorable thing the dodgers have done recently was when mattingly walked off the mound then on again forcing him to change pitchers…
can someone please remind me when the GREAT dodgers last won a meaningful game?
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When was the last time they had the capability of spending 300 million on payroll while still making a profit? This is the real first offseason where new ownership is able to go buckwild. So lets see how they do going forward being able to pump out more than Yankee-level payrolls in a weaker division
You cannot look at the Dodgers past because their past is irrelevant to current ownership and spending.
Russell Martin 4 years 40 ? Well to be fair the guy has been delusional since day one of his baseball career. I’m glad he believes he is better than he is but the guy has always been way off base – pun intended-
“In my mind, I was a first-round draft pick,” Martin said. “I was like, how can these people not see it? I wasn’t going in the 35th round.” said, Martin
He was the 35th round pick by the Expos .. LOL
@JonHeymanCBS: hearing scott hairston is on yankees radar. w/ gardner, granderson & presumably ichiro, they’ll need a righty-hitting OF
Lol
sure and money guaranteed championships, right?
that marlins-angels WS was awesome this year…
sure and money guaranteed championships, right?
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It pretty much guarantees playoff berths, which is the most important part of trying to win a championship.
Jerkface November 27th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
You cannot look at the Dodgers past because their past is irrelevant to current ownership and spending.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.
Greatness doesn’t just exist. You need to keep at it to sustain it. If we’re willing to rest on our record number of WS championships, we are not being great. We’re being Taylor Swift-ed off stage by Kanye West.
We’re being Taylor Swift-ed off stage by Kanye West.
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On the bright side Taylor moved forward and has been on the up swing ever since
that marlins-angels WS was awesome this year…
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Wow cool argument Ys Guy!! Oh wait the Tigers 5th in payroll were playing the Giants, who were 8th in payroll and only beat by the marlins by 500k. Actually they probably ended up beating the Marlins thanks to trades.
And of course we can simply point to the Yankees, who have had the highest payroll in history for history and have missed the playoffs once in the past 12 years.
Half of being great means acting like you’re great…. we can’t even ACT like we’re great. How can you act like you’re great when your begging Russell Martin to take a Yankee-discount?
Knock-off Coach bag bs.
Against All Odds November 27th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
We’re being Taylor Swift-ed off stage by Kanye West.
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On the bright side Taylor moved forward and has been on the up swing ever since
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Taylor Swift was born on a Christmas tree farm right?? If I were on her PR team, that’s the story I’d push.
The Dodgers are unlikely to miss the playoffs often with the money they are going to spend unless they have catastrophic injuries or are just incredibly poorly ran…..they are gonna sign Greinke….might sign Soriano too I bet….gonna be a pretty good team if imagine
“It pretty much guarantees playoff berths, which is the most important part of trying to win a championship”
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peter angelos just called and said where did all the PS money go that wil clark, bj surhoff and albert bell guaranteed.
Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Against All Odds November 27th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
We’re being Taylor Swift-ed off stage by Kanye West.
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On the bright side Taylor moved forward and has been on the up swing ever since
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Taylor Swift was born on a Christmas tree farm right?? If I were on her PR team, that’s the story I’d push.
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It wouldn’t hurt lol
Greatness is like democracy and freedom…
“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” – Lincoln.
If you guys wanna argue with Lincoln, go right ahead.
larry rothschild called looking for his bonus money guaranteed by wade boggs, fred mcgriff and jose canseco, vinny castillo and greg vaughn guaranteed him
The Dodgers only competitor is SF in that division. Those guys are ready to run through walls for Mattingly. They might not sustain greatness… but they won’t have to. Other fan bases are happy with one WS every 60 years. They’ll live off that s**t for decades if they have to.. they can spend a ton, still be awful and STILL MAKE MONEY!
peter angelos just called and said where did all the PS money go that wil clark, bj surhoff and albert bell guaranteed.
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Listen, stop this foolish line of argument because you’re getting no where. Angelos missed the playoffs with Belle. You know to who? The Yankees (#1 payroll), Red Sox (#5), Indians (#4), and Rangers (#2). All higher than the Orioles.
If lots of teams are spending money of course someone has to go home, but we’re not talking about a team spending ‘some money’, we’re talking about a team with the ability to spend 2.5 x as much as the normal team.
Proving that there’s no correlation between spending and championships is foolish.. it’s a precedent that’s well established. Spending a ton doesn’t win you a WS.
I’d wager it will keep people coming to their ballpark, however, and as JF’s numbers tell us, they barely even need that to keep themselves from making bank. Their new ownership is really smart… they know they need to establish themselves and connect with the fan base by showing them the embarrassment that has been the LA Dodgers over the past decade is dead and gone. It might not get them a WS, but it will earn them the respect of the fans. First and foremost, that’s the most important thing they have to do over there.
The Dodgers’ fans have had to endure some awful PR over the last few years… if they weren’t pissing me off so much I’d say ‘good for them.’
joe giardi just called and said he’s switching his uni # to 31 because obviously they had to win the WS every year because they spent the most money
‘dodgers’ and ‘fans’ is something of a dubious contrivance. are you a fan if you show up for 3 innings, leave in the 7th and dont even bother to check out who won the game?
Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
The Dodgers’ fans have had to endure some awful PR over the last few years… if they weren’t pissing me off so much I’d say ‘good for them.’
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They’ll piss you off more if they sign Cano
joe giardi just called and said he’s switching his uni # to 31 because obviously they had to win the WS every year because they spent the most money
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Super bad math on the # of WS we should have won due to money. Its not about buying a championship, but buying the chance to win a championship every season. To spend out of your mistakes, to spend out of organizational weakness, to keep the fans engaged, and to put a stranglehold on the division you play in.
Ys Guy November 27th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
‘dodgers’ and ‘fans’ is something of a dubious contrivance. are you a fan if you show up for 3 innings, leave in the 7th and dont even bother to check out who won the game?
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…..Dude.
Weak.
This isn’t the Marlins. The Dodgers have a really big fan base. C’mon now..you’re just saying crazy things that are meaningless. Like they’re some expansion team with no real fans, smh.
Building excitement around one of the original teams in Major League Baseball is a good thing for the fans. Baseball fans in general, too.
Against All Odds November 27th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
The Dodgers’ fans have had to endure some awful PR over the last few years… if they weren’t pissing me off so much I’d say ‘good for them.’
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They’ll piss you off more if they sign Cano
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I’m not gonna believe it until it happens but yes.. I will hate them sooooo much.
Jesse Sanchez ?@JesseSanchezMLB
Let the games begin. Again. Two top Cuban prospects, including National team player, near MLB free agency http://atmlb.com/TpoVb4 #Cuba #Mexico
would like more info on the SS
The Yankees haven’t made the playoffs every year save one since 1995 because they are the smartest organization
its unbelievable that any yankees fan would suggest that any team has enough money to guarantee greatness. what a joke
Jesse Sanchez ?@JesseSanchezMLB
Let the games begin. Again. Two top Cuban prospects, including National team player, near MLB free agency http://atmlb.com/TpoVb4 #Cuba #Mexico
When will they sign with the Cubs or Dodgers?
Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
@dolan182jetsnyy Don’t know if the Yankees need Hamilton, Stanton, or Upton. They would help but they can win without these guys too.
Ys Guy says:
November 27, 2012 at 7:52 pm
its unbelievable that any yankees fan would suggest that any team has enough money to guarantee greatness. what a joke
It’s not guaranteed….but if you’re spending twice as much as other teams in your division it’s certainly easier
The Dodgers swinging big means that the Yankees have finally 100% lost their one advantage in free agency, which is the ability to outspend other teams on the players they want. So now the Yankees have no developmental advantage & no free agency advantage
The offense wasn’t good enough last year….it’s pretty unlikely it’ll be good enough this season a year older and minus Swisher
4/40? Nice try. Bye-bye. Maybe if you hit .250-260. Nope–you can get that production from a replacement or back-up catcher.
Have fun, Russ. You handled the staff well, but that was about it.
its unbelievable that any yankees fan would suggest that any team has enough money to guarantee greatness. what a joke
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Its unbelievable that any yankee fan would not recognize the advantage spending money brings.
Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Against All Odds November 27th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
The Dodgers’ fans have had to endure some awful PR over the last few years… if they weren’t pissing me off so much I’d say ‘good for them.’
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They’ll piss you off more if they sign Cano
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I’m not gonna believe it until it happens but yes.. I will hate them sooooo much.
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We would need to talk you off the team greedy ledge
Ys Guy November 27th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
its unbelievable that any yankees fan would suggest that any team has enough money to guarantee greatness. what a joke
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You understand that ‘being great’ is a state of mind, right?
Man.. anyone that has seen me post for this long and still takes my words literally is entering some mental health red zone.
“The Dodgers swinging big means that the Yankees have finally 100% lost their one advantage in free agency, which is the ability to outspend other teams on the players they want. So now the Yankees have no developmental advantage & no free agency advantage”
They may not be able to spend as much as the Dodgers but they can spend smarter….the Dodgers really haven’t demonstrated they can spend wisely to this point…..they can cover up holes with money sure…but sometimes the players you need aren’t available to buy as the Yanks have dealt with for years
The Yankees have to be smarter than they have been in the past….the have to evaluate and develop better….just no way around it now
The Dodgers are doing everything a team with that type of revenue should be doing: Spending their money.
They have the mentality that they want to be great.
I think, therefore I am.
Go ahead, argue with Descartes.
The Return of Stoneburner November 27th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
@dolan182jetsnyy Don’t know if the Yankees need Hamilton, Stanton, or Upton. They would help but they can win without these guys too.
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If what world lol
@Ken_Rosenthal: #Mets’ Wright disappointed with “inaccuracies” in today’s reports? Join the club! Updated column: http://t.co/higlmIX0
The Yankees cannot spend smarter on a player both the Yankees & Dodgers want. If the Dodgers wanted CC Sabathia and had this ownership group, he’d be pitching in Chavez Ravine. The only ‘smart’ thing the Yankees can do is make shrewd trades or sign risky/undervalued free agents.
The point of that statement is that it doesn’t matter if Dodgers ownership is stupid if they simply go after all the high profile free agents.
The Yankees have to be smarter than they have been in the past….the have to evaluate and develop better….just no way around it now
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Hopefully being put into this position forces them to be creative and smarter. Although I’m not sure if being put under pressure is helpful when it comes to developing.
Nobody here wants the Dodgers to be great, btw.
This is terrible.
I imagine it being like some sort of revelation for other teams that have money… like, ‘Hey.. did you see what the Dodgers are doing? YES, the DODGERS!.. Shoot.. maybe we can be great…’
It’s like an infection that might spread…
“The Yankees cannot spend smarter on a player both the Yankees & Dodgers want. If the Dodgers wanted CC Sabathia and had this ownership group, he’d be pitching in Chavez Ravine”
That’s true….but the Yankees didn’t get EVERY big free agent when they were spending way more than everybody else….but your point is true….
Example coming up ….if Cano wants the most money he will probably be wearing Dodger blue in 2014
Let me think. . .Is spending money helpful? That’s a tough one.
Which fan base will be more excited this year? The Dodgers with new talent or the Yankees with the same increasingly aging team? Oh wait, they only will spend for a lesser team than last year.
I wish the Dodgers owners had bought the Yankees.
That’s true….but the Yankees didn’t get EVERY big free agent when they were spending way more than everybody else….but your point is true….
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Did they not get guys they wanted or did they just not go after every big free agent? Teams spending more and more has turned likely free agents into toss ups.
How sad will Cashman be when Felix Hernandez finally reaches free agency and the Dodgers won’t let him have him.
austinmac November 27th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Let me think. . .Is spending money helpful? That’s a tough one.
Which fan base will be more excited this year? The Dodgers with new talent or the Yankees with the same increasingly aging team? Oh wait, they only will spend for a lesser team than last year.
I wish the Dodgers owners had bought the Yankees.
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We would probably Hamilton
“Did they not get guys they wanted or did they just not go after every big free agent? Teams spending more and more has turned likely free agents into toss ups.”
Well the Dodgers needs and the Yankees needs aren’t always gonna match up….. Example….the dodgers don’t need outfielders so they aren’t pursuing Hamilton (I think ) …..so the Yanks could sign him. Instead they are signing Scott Hairston
The thing I envy most about the Dodgers is that they are going all in internationally and domestically and they went overslot in the draft.
Last night, I spent a lot of time ranting about Farrell only to wake up thinking, ” what the hell did I just spend my time on?, I could be contemplating Italian clothes and cars.” – sometimes this dumb Canadian really does have to give his head a shake.
Hope you guys are well and semi figuring it out as ’13 is mine
probably sign*
Well the Dodgers needs and the Yankees needs aren’t always gonna match up….. Example….the dodgers don’t need outfielders so they aren’t pursuing Hamilton (I think ) …..so the Yanks could sign him.
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Thats why I said it hurts the Yankees on guys both teams want
The only thing stopping the dodgers now is roster slots
JF, LOL – cum on, Josh aka Keith Moon Oliver Reed Hamilton could be fun in your town. ” Take a chance.”
The Yankees hit the rate of diminishing returns on dollars spent long ago. The Dodgers don’t change that.