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The waiting game: Andy Pettitte edition

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 27, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

In five days, I’ll fly to Nashville for the Winter Meetings. And as a general rule, you expect a team to be in position to make a move by the time the Winter Meetings start.

At that point, it’s too late to say it’s too early.

And frankly, the Yankees do seem to be gaining some clarity. A week ago they took care of priority No. 1 by re-signing Hiroki Kuroda. They already know Mariano Rivera is coming back, it’s only a matter of getting the contract finalized. There’s finally some buzz about conversations with Russell Martin, and talk of interest in a few outfield targets.

Then there’s Andy Pettitte, who yesterday told Jack Curry that even the YES Network will have to stay tuned.

“All I’d say is a decision will be made soon,” Pettitte said in a text message to Curry.

A decision from Pettitte would let the Yankees truly determine how to proceed. If Pettitte’s coming back, the Yankees have a legitimate rotation in place, and they could still go bottom-feeding to add some fifth starter competition. If Pettitte’s not coming back, the Yankees have to figure out how to upgrade their rotation without hurting their ability to spend next winter. Doing that might affect the way they approach available catchers and outfielders.

With the Winter Meetings less than a week away, the Yankees offseason has a clear spotlight, and it’s pointed right at Andy Pettitte. It’s his move.

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62 Responses to “The waiting game: Andy Pettitte edition”

  1. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    “Nonetheless, he’s a Top 5 player in the game right now, and I don’t see the Yankees letting him go.”

    I think he is now….but if they are serious about the budget then they need to be thinking about how much longer he will be…..and Im not sure he still will be in 3 years

  2. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Repost :

    Put a bunch of wheeling-dealing poker players in a room together.

    Give them some chips to play with and free booze.

    Ya’ never know what might happen ?

    ;)

  3. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    @Joelsherman1: #Yankees wanted Pettitte/Mo done this week in conjunction with Kuroda to have clear idea of needs/$ going into next wk Winter Meetings

  4. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    And don’t forget great food, music, and …….

    ;)

  5. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Well I’m glad Cashman at least is positioning himself to be able to do something next week if its possible to

  6. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    Blake-

    It does stir the drink and make things possible.

    It’s what I hoped for. Chances.

    :)

  7. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    MTU,

    If you read the tea leaves then I would guess Cashman wanted the rotation set as much as possible before the meetings because he knows that if he’s gonna make a big deal then it’ll have to include either Hughes, Nova, or Phelps most likely…..and he needed to have the ability to discuss those players in trades…..that’s just a guess…..but now he can actively discuss those players with Kuroda and Andy done.

  8. mracuraman November 27th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    What waiting game, his deal is almost done $10M-11M.

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN

    Sources: Andy Pettitte is close to formally announcing he’s coming back, and he’s close to finishing a new deal with the Yankees.

  9. Against All Odds November 27th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    and Im not sure he still will be in 3 years

    ——————-

    In three he’ll be at worst top ten. Of course there is no way to know for sure.

  10. Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    DAVID WRIGHT

  11. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    Blake-

    Saw that possibility coming a while back.

    Was hoping that Cashman would get er’ done and be able to deal from a position of strength.

    He’s there. Might get interesting.

    JU in play. As are others I reckon.

    We’ll see. The players will be at the tables soon.

    Let’s dance.

    ;)

  12. Benny Blanco November 27th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    What waiting game, his deal is almost done $10M-11M.

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN

    Sources: Andy Pettitte is close to formally announcing he’s coming back, and he’s close to finishing a new deal with the Yankees.

    ======================

    This would be great news. The yankeew will be in position to make some power moves, if any, as they head to the winter meetings.

  13. Against All Odds November 27th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Three yrs**

  14. Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Do we have any other confirmation on Ichiro?

    Assuming that got done last night/today as well… everyone is back. Hooray.

  15. jr1212 November 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    With the Pettite, Kuroda, Mo and Ichiro back, Yanks now have pieces to trade in Hughes, Nova, Phelps and Gardner..

    What will a package of Hughes and Gardner bring back?

  16. coney1 November 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Ichiro back as well for $5MM. Wow, Cashman really moving this week! I’d bet they have Russell Martin re-signed before the end of the week. They’ll go into the Winter Meetings knowing they have Kuroda, Ichiro, Pettitte, Mo, and Martin locked up and can use some depth to get themselves a young bat or two.

    Daigo Fujiwara?@DaigoFuji

    Japan’s Nikkan Sports reporting Ichiro is to agree to 1 year $5 million deal w/incentives to the New York #Yankees. http://bit.ly/WVlM8m

  17. Against All Odds November 27th, 2012 at 9:16 am

    Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    DAVID WRIGHT

    ————

    And Soria please and thank you

    Signed

    Team Greedy :)

  18. Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    Ichiro replaces Swish.. I’m still holding out for another signing of an OFer not named Ibanez. Hariston looks more and more likely.

  19. Against All Odds November 27th, 2012 at 9:18 am

    .

    What will a package of Hughes and Gardner bring back?

    ————

    Not a big piece I don’t think it would bring back an Upton

  20. Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    jr1212 November 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    With the Pettite, Kuroda, Mo and Ichiro back, Yanks now have pieces to trade in Hughes, Nova, Phelps and Gardner..

    —————-

    I agree Hughes and Gardner might be on the block… but I gotta wonder if it’s a good move. We do need to field a team in 2014. Maybe Phelps will step up and Pineda won’t be hurt anymore and we can have a real rotation for 2014 without Andy, Kuroda, and Hughes. That’s a lotta turn over in one year.

  21. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:24 am

    You people sure have your sights set low.

  22. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Nice job so far by Cashman getting his ducks in a row.

    Now all he has to do is bust a move.

    :)

  23. austinmac November 27th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    The Yankees are getting the one year deals they covet. In 2014, they will lose or need to enter new agreements with:

    1. Cano
    2. Granderson
    3. A right fielder
    4. Three of their five starters, at least and+
    5. A closer

    Plus, they will have increasing issues at 3B and SS with age.

    I simply don’t get the advantage of needing to fill all these holes next year.

  24. Shame Spencer November 27th, 2012 at 9:28 am

    MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:24 am

    You people sure have your sights set low.

    ——————

    Lol, tell me about it! All he’s done is everything you could have predicted from the moment we got swept.

  25. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:30 am

    The MTU plan :

    Keppinger
    Soria
    Haren

    JU, Gordon, Stanton,Cargo,or Wright.

    Think big. Doesn’t hurt to dream.

    :)

  26. mracuraman November 27th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Why would the Yanks need a closer? They have closer in D-Rob, they can resign DA53 if he does well, Montgomery could set up and close. Also depending if they sign Soria or not, he could close in the future as well. Yanks have plenty of options there.

  27. RadioKev November 27th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Hope the Red Sox trade Lester. It would make no sense at all.

  28. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Shame-

    If you come up with the right deal for Cash he’ll pay off your college debt.

    Work on it.

    :)

  29. mracuraman November 27th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    I wouldn’t touch Haren…his medicals about his back and now his hip are scary.

  30. mracuraman November 27th, 2012 at 9:33 am

    According to a report in Nikkan Sports, the Yankees have re-signed Ichiro Suzuki to a one-year contract worth $5M plus incentives. There hasn’t been any other confirmation yet. More to come.

  31. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    Haren would only be a 1 yr. for depth, and those concerns are what make it possible.

    The Yankess can afford the risk. Most teams can’t.

  32. spidanyc November 27th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    Let Russel Martin walk. Replace him with Romine.
    Sign Josh Hamilton for RF with Swisher and Martin’s combined salary.
    Trade Grandy for a top prospect.

  33. Mike Ri November 27th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    I’d take Haren for a year !

  34. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Now that the Yankees have their safety net in place it’s time for the more risky moves on the highwire.

    Let’s see ‘em Brian. Show us all how clever you are.

    ;)

  35. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:38 am

    Mike-

    Of course you would.

    And the Yankees should too.

    I’d also stash Sizemore in the Minors if he’ll take it.

    ;)

  36. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    @mikeaxisa: Easy to say from here, but NYY should just go all-in this year. Sign Marcum/McCarthy to fill out rotation, use Nova/Phelps to land a big bat

    I agree

  37. brianlopez22 November 27th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    MTU and Mike –

    I’d take Haren for 2 years with a team option for the 3rd.

    Incentivize the contract based on number of starts.
    Because if you get 32+ starts for Haren, it will be a good year for him.

  38. MTU November 27th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Today’s a hike day. Got to get going soon.

    I like what I see so far. Things are falling into place.

    A big deal is now possible. Not necessarily likely but possible.

    That is good.

  39. CountryClub November 27th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Sweeny Murti ?@YankeesWFAN
    Am told Ichiro deal is not done, just rumor. It is clear Yanks have interest in bringing him back, so entirely possible at some point.

  40. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:41 am

    @nickcafardo: The Red Sox would have to know they could sign and/or trade for 2 starting pitchers if they consider tempting deal for Wil Myers for Lester

  41. mracuraman November 27th, 2012 at 9:41 am

    Sweeny Murti ?@YankeesWFAN

    Am told Ichiro deal is not done, just rumor. It is clear Yanks have interest in bringing him back, so entirely possible at some point.

  42. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Haren was a lot better in the 2 Nd half last year ….his health is a concern but he’s not old and could bounce back if he can stay healthy. Id love to gamble on him for 1 year but he’s really not needed unless they deal a starter

  43. CountryClub November 27th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    If the Yanks don’t make any more rotation moves, I like what they have heading into next yr.

    Hughes as the 4 and Nova/Phelps as the 5 is plenty good with a strong front 3. Obviously, they need Hughes to not take a step back.

  44. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    I feel like the Yankees are gonna do all this work to get under 189 in 2014…..then go into next winter saying…..oh S@$t ….our team sucks

  45. brianlopez22 November 27th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Getting Haren lets us conceivably deal Hughes or Nova + Granderson for a bigger fish – maybe even Hughes + Nova + Granderson for King Felix (always dreaming)…

  46. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    “maybe even Hughes + Nova + Granderson for King Felix (always dreaming)…”

    Not close to enough

  47. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    I don’t think jack Z would trade Felix for Trout , Harper and Machado at this point….it feels like he’s going to hold Felix until the ship hits the bottom of the sea.

  48. RadioKev November 27th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    I don’t think Nova/Phelps gets you a big bat from anyone. Maybe when paired with Granderson, but then you have to make sure the deal is worth it.

  49. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    @JonHeymanCBS: Marvin Miller, RIP. a giant in the game. should be in Cooperstown.

    RIP

  50. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    RadioKev says:
    November 27, 2012 at 9:47 am
    I don’t think Nova/Phelps gets you a big bat from anyone. Maybe when paired with Granderson, but then you have to make sure the deal is worth it.

    I think it depends on the definition of “big bat” and also what you package with them

  51. NYYROC November 27th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    Trading Nova & Phelps as suggested by Axisa would leave them with a 1 man rotation in 2014, CC (maybe 2 if you believe Pineda will work out) Every other pitcher in the system would be ML unproven.

  52. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Axisa’s point is that they are screwed in 2014 anyway so go for it this year

  53. PacoDooley November 27th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:49 am
    Axisa’s point is that they are screwed in 2014 anyway so go for it this year
    ————————————–

    I agree – hard to see them truly competing through the pinchpoint of 2014 – they can be decent, but with so much money constrained in a few big contracts and with Cano and Grandy (plus Hughes) all becoming FAs, they will have a hard time remaining at the top in 2014

  54. mracuraman November 27th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    If the Yanks sign Haren and trade Phelps/Nova like some of you suggest, Haren gets hurt like he always does, who starts? Sweaty Freddie? Ponson? Smalls?

  55. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    In 2014 the Yankees will have : no Kuroda, No Pettite, no Rivera, probably no Granderson, maybe no Cano, maybe no Hughes, Jeter will be 40, Arod will be 39…..and everyone less will be a year older……AND they are going to reduce payroll in to the 170s……hard to see how they are going to compete anyway unless things change IMO

  56. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    “If the Yanks sign Haren and trade Phelps/Nova like some of you suggest, Haren gets hurt like he always does, who starts? Sweaty Freddie? Ponson? Smalls?”

    The other one of nova/Phelps that they don’t trade or hopefully Pineda at some point

  57. blake November 27th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    You know at the end of Finding Nemo where all the fish finally get to the ocean but are stuck in plastic bags floating around …..and they are like “now what”?

    That’s gonna be Hal, Cashman, and company after they finally get under that 189 mark and they look at their roster next winter

  58. blake November 27th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    If the Yanks sign Haren and trade Phelps/Nova like some of you suggest, Haren gets hurt like he always does, who starts? Sweaty Freddie? Ponson? Smalls?

  59. blake November 27th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    @Buster_ESPN: Club evaluators were aware of Jeff Keppinger’s leg injury, and don’t consider it serious enough to deter them. Teams bidding: TB, AZ, CHC.

    Copy/paste fail in previous post

  60. pkyankfan69 November 27th, 2012 at 10:02 am

    @mikeaxisa: Easy to say from here, but NYY should just go all-in this year. Sign Marcum/McCarthy to fill out rotation, use Nova/Phelps to land a big bat.
    ——————————————————————–
    Or the Yanks can keep Nova/Phelps/Hughes and offer Hamilton a ridiculous 1 year contract. If Hamilton is not happy with the long term offers he is seeing it’s possible he might accept a 1 year – $35M contract from the Yanks. Then Hamilton can blast 50+ HRs with the short RF porch in YS and get his big deal after next year. Not too likely of course, but I wouldn’t say impossible.

  61. blake November 27th, 2012 at 10:03 am

    “Or the Yanks can keep Nova/Phelps/Hughes and offer Hamilton a ridiculous 1 year contract. If Hamilton is not happy with the long term offers he is seeing it’s possible he might accept a 1 year – $35M contract from the Yanks. Then Hamilton can blast 50+ HRs with the short RF porch in YS and get his big deal after next year. Not too likely of course, but I wouldn’t say impossible.”

    I love that plan too but my opinion doesn’t count

  62. blake November 27th, 2012 at 10:08 am

    @eboland11: While there’s a report out of Japan saying the Yankees and Ichiro have agreed to a deal, was told there’s “no truth” to it.


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