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Pirates in position to take another one?

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 28, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Remember a few years ago when a series of secondary Yankees seemed to landed on the Pirates roster? Most were relatively small names — guys like Steven Jackson and Anthony Claggett — and a lot of them went in that Damaso Marte/Xavier Nady trade, but there were a handful of familiar names in Pittsburgh.

Now it seems the Pirates are going after someone the Yankees truly want.

Jon Heyman reports that the Pirates are thought to be the front-runners for Russell Martin, and they might be willing to significantly outbid the Yankees. From Heyman’s story:

The Rangers and Mariners are two more possible suitors for Martin, but his choice appears likely to come down to the Yankees and Pirates. And he is expected to make that choice sometime within the next several days, perhaps before the Winter Meetings, which will begin Monday in Nashville, Tenn.

Of course, the Yankees have plenty of backup options — and they have Austin Romine still carrying some upper-level prospect status — but the catching market is thin, and losing Martin would be a significant blow. Mike Napoli isn’t much of a catcher, and A.J. Pierzynski is certainly the next-best option out there.

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80 Responses to “Pirates in position to take another one?”

  1. blake November 28th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    “Jon Heyman reports that the Pirates are thought to be the front-runners for Russell Martin, and they might be willing to significantly outbid the Yankees. From Heyman’s story:

    Let them

  2. RadioKev November 28th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Well that would be frustrating. No way should the Yankees go four years on Martin. Three is even a bit much.

    What’s the back up plan? Cervelli/Romine? I’d prefer that to signing AJ…

  3. Shame Spencer November 28th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Ugh.. Chad.. you get me every time you silly, silly man.

    Repost:

    Shame Spencer November 28th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    And Shame – it’s harder to break this habit than you’d think. ;)
    ———————

    Don’t I know it, Doreen! Every time I come on here I feel like Pacino in Godfather III.

    Just when I thought I was out…. :D

  4. DONNYBROOK November 28th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    I do NOT see losing Marting as a “significant blow”. A decent defensive catcher that is able to “situationally hit” is all you need. The hyperbole should be reserved for Cano’s departure.

  5. Shame Spencer November 28th, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    Let’s put trisha in charge of an emergency contact chart lol. She likes keeping track of things! And I think she’d care if we died. Even those of us that can’t appreciate the Yankees enough, right trisha? ;)

    Randy would be my next suggestion since he has a document with every post ever written stored away somewhere. Randy is Cheney-esque that way.

  6. Shame Spencer November 28th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    The Angels also get almost 60 million more than the Yanks in TV money annually

    ———————-

    I hate every team in California.

  7. jacksquat November 28th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Pierzynski .287/.338/.536/.874 vs rhp last year.

    Cervelli .317/.414/.393 career vs lhp.

    Sign AJ for 1 year, 2 if necessary.

  8. longtimefan November 28th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Doesn’t anyone remember how terrible Martin was for the greatest part of the season, batting under .200, many people say his defense is his strong suit but I don’t feel it is good enough to justify the kind of money and years he wants, let him walk, re-unite him and AJ in Pittsburgh

  9. G. Love November 28th, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Just saw the GB7 news. RIP GB7. You will most likely go down as the only person ever in my lifetime to call me a Fallujah Martyr which I will never forget. I actually had to look up what a Fallujah Martyr was after he called me that on here.

  10. DONNYBROOK November 28th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    It’s easy to see why so much $$$ is being paid out to teams for the programming supplied almost daily via a 162 game season. “Amish Mafia” ??? Really???

  11. JCPD November 28th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    RIP GB7, and thanks again for your service to this great country. You’ll be missed!!

  12. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    The Braves get basically no TV money until forever

  13. The Return of Stoneburner November 28th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Will miss the minor league updates from GB – - – -RIP – - – -

  14. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Id like to see a comparison between total revenue now for the Yankees and Dodgers. I would guess the Yanks still bring in more through the other streams but I doubt it’s enough to cover that big gap in TV revenue

  15. Mike Ri November 28th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Pirates in position to take another one?
    ————
    Thank God . .i’d personally drive Martin to Pittsburgh

  16. Shame Spencer November 28th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    The Braves get basically no TV money until forever

    —————

    If the Commish were concerned about fairness wouldn’t all this crap be put into a giant pool and redistributed? They just looooooove redistributing money to people with money in Major League Baseball, don’t they?

  17. Mike Ri November 28th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Martin would be a significant blow.
    ——————
    HUH ??? yeah … im sure the Yanks will survive without a .200 hitter and below average defensive catcher ! .. BUT hey . . he does know how to handle a pitching staff ( except our Ace ) … and he’s a great club house guy !!

    OH MY >. what a loss !!! how will the Yankees ever compete without the might Russel Martin

  18. Mike Ri November 28th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    *mighty

  19. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 28th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Martin apparently is a good catcher….that would suck to lose, but we can replace him with another defensive catcher.

    $8-10M/year for that guy is a mistake I’d rather see another team make.

  20. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    “If the Commish were concerned about fairness wouldn’t all this crap be put into a giant pool and redistributed? They just looooooove redistributing money to people with money in Major League Baseball, don’t they?”

    I think a portion of it is ….but not enough to change the huge advantage they have

  21. DONNYBROOK November 28th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Ted Turner was an absolute genius. They told him he was Nuts when he bought out the MGM Library and used that to feed Turner Classic Movies, and TNT. He also was branded an idiot for bankrolling a 24 Hr News channel. He did some crazy stuff in relation to the America’s Cup and in his personal life in general, but the guy was WAY ahead of his time with the Explosion of cable TV.

  22. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 28th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    who cares about total revenue between the dodgers and yankees???

    the dodgers are preparing to spend silly amounts of money and the yankees aren’t. Has nothing to do with available $ to burn.

    if the yankees want to spend, they can spend. period. they’re choosing not to and in this free agent market, i’m thankful they’re not.

  23. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    So….in hindsight would anybody make the qualifying offer to Martin?

  24. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    “who cares about total revenue between the dodgers and yankees???”

    Just interested….

  25. chicken little November 28th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    Martin is a good catcher, not an elite catcher. Further, while the lineup has holes, I don’t think losing Martin and replacing him with someone else (whether its an “offense” or “defense” type catcher) matters much. Martin’s offense is not that spectacular. The lineup hole is the need for someone to bat in the middle of the order.

  26. DONNYBROOK November 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    NO way I offer Martin $13.3 Mill. Basically, Martin left the Yanks when he rejected the 3yr deal they offered him several months back.

  27. ac1 November 28th, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    the only way 30 m for martin is acceptable is if they decide they are not going to go under 189M.

  28. ac1 November 28th, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Ted Turner was an absolute genius. They told him he was Nuts when he bought out the MGM Library and used that to feed Turner Classic Movies, and TNT. He also was branded an idiot for bankrolling a 24 Hr News channel. He did some crazy stuff in relation to the America’s Cup and in his personal life in general, but the guy was WAY ahead of his time with the Explosion of cable TV.
    ___

    dont forget WCW..

  29. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    DONNYBROOK says:
    November 28, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    NO way I offer Martin $13.3 Mill. Basically, Martin left the Yanks when he rejected the 3yr deal they offered him several months back.

    It’s one year….and if he left you get a draft pick….they misread his market and they should have made the offer

  30. 4 NYY November 28th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Martin is a decent catcher, fair hitter (barely ), doesn’t throw that well, blocks pitches okay.
    Sounds like a BUC to me !
    GONE !

  31. vc 11 November 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Front load the contract. Give him $11M this year then $5-6M per in ’14 and ’15.

  32. ac1 November 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    It’s one year….and if he left you get a draft pick….they misread his market and they should have made the offer
    ___

    I dont blame them for mis-reading this. This is like bizarro world where a guy who hit .210 can get a 3-4 year deal for 10m/year….

  33. ac1 November 28th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Front load the contract. Give him $11M this year then $5-6M per in ’14 and ’15.

    ___

    the lux tax is based on average annual salary so frontloading does nothing for the 189M

  34. vc 11 November 28th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Or you will see a lineup of
    Jeter
    Ichiro
    Tex
    Cano
    A-Rod
    Granderson
    Ibanez
    Cervelli/Romine
    Gardner

  35. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    “I dont blame them for mis-reading this. This is like bizarro world where a guy who hit .210 can get a 3-4 year deal for 10m/year….”

    I guess ….but I was saying a month ago they should do it because so many teams need catchers and because there are less than 30 legit bigs argue starting catchers on planet earth

  36. vc 11 November 28th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    AC1, it is annual salary? Geez….

  37. ac1 November 28th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    I guess ….but I was saying a month ago they should do it because so many teams need catchers and because there are less than 30 legit bigs argue starting catchers on planet earth

    ___

    i agree and it would only be 1 year or a 4th compensatory draft pick but still you can see how they could have made this mistake..

  38. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    November 28, 2012 at 12:50 pm
    Front load the contract. Give him $11M this year then $5-6M per in ’14 and ’15.

    That doesn’t help anything…..luxury tax is done off the AAV of the deal so it would be 7 or 8 million a year on a deal like that

  39. ac1 November 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    i actually think it will be Soriano that suffers more than Martin.

    and we got out draft pick for him

    i guess we only get 2 since Kuroda signed back with us.

  40. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    “i agree and it would only be 1 year or a 4th compensatory draft pick but still you can see how they could have made this mistake..”

    Yea but they get paid millions to read these situations correctly…..they apparently thought they could get him back for peanuts because he barely hit .200…..

  41. The Return of Stoneburner November 28th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Hard to make hindsight determinations until we see the entire picture – especially with what will or will not occur at the Winter Meetings next week – - – -

  42. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    I think ultimately somebody will pay Soriano….I could be wrong

  43. yankeefeminista November 28th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    I am still waiting for something more definitive on GB7. I am hoping he just couldn’t put off watching the prospects any longer and spontaneously took a long huggers’ road trip in the deep of summer to watch the kids play. After a premature ending to the Yankee prospect season and too many days spent in a HIE, GB decided to hightail it out of the US to go watch winter ball, and is sunning himself somewhere in the Caribbean with a six pack of beer that he has discreetly hidden from Killer and Nurse Karloff. He’s happily watching Gary Sanchez, Jose Ramirez and Co. play and will eventually report back to us.

    If this is just a fantasy, then I at least do know that if GB is on the other side that he will soon be riding in that boat to the Charleston games with his late close friend whom he so missed, in some other dimension.

    Here’s to you, GB. Thank you for the good music vibes, the prospect talks/scouting reports, your many Viet and Yankee stories/lore, your service, and diehard Yankee fandom, and most of all, for your friendship. Your absence has left a gaping hole here on Lohud. We love you!

  44. jacksquat November 28th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    So….in hindsight would anybody make the qualifying offer to Martin?

    Nope, because I wouldn’t want to pay Martin 13.3 mil. There is still a budget in 2013, even if it isn’t 189 yet.

  45. blake November 28th, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    “Hard to make hindsight determinations until we see the entire picture – especially with what will or will not occur at the Winter Meetings next week – – – -”

    True….but unless Martin takes a big discount or they can swing a trade for Buster Posey…..it’s hard to see something other than a bad contract for Martin or a question mark behind the plate happening

  46. kash_va November 28th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Just read the news on GB7 — RIP. Will miss his knowledge and his passion.

    As patriotic and passionate about the yankees as he was, we should retire “GB7″ username.

  47. pat November 28th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    jonmorosi
    Greg Colbrunn is new #RedSox hitting coach.

  48. blake November 28th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    “Nope, because I wouldn’t want to pay Martin 13.3 mil. There is still a budget in 2013, even if it isn’t 189 yet.”

    If the market is really 3 or 4 years then he would have probably declined anyway…..13.3 million is a big over pay for Martin….but it’s one year and is preferable to putting money on the books for 2014 for him

  49. Against All Odds November 28th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    What Went Wrong: Farm System

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....tem-79702/

  50. Shame Spencer November 28th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    blake – A part of me says yes.. but it’s really going to depend. If Martin goes to play for someone else I’ll be glad they didn’t.. if they sign him to a 3-4 year deal, then I’ll be pissed they didn’t.

  51. blake November 28th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    “blake – A part of me says yes.. but it’s really going to depend. If Martin goes to play for someone else I’ll be glad they didn’t.. if they sign him to a 3-4 year deal, then I’ll be pissed they didn’t.”

    If he goes to play elsewhere then they would have gotten a draft pick !

  52. Triple Short of a Cycle November 28th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Martin is a good catcher, not an elite catcher

    ——————————————-

    an Avg defensive catcher who bats 200 is considered good?

  53. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 28th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    blake,

    Soriano will get paid. He may not get $13.3M/year, but he’ll get a multi-year deal (my guess is 3 years) which is better than the one year and $14 the Yankees would have had if he didn’t opt out.

    I love Rivera and will love having him back, but I tend to think that we should be in the race for Soriano. At 43 years old and coming off a torn ACL, I have serious concerns. Granted, I guess we have a few guys that can close if need be, but I don’t envy Cashman’s position in terms of these kinds of decisions.

    What are we going to do after Rivera is gone after this season??? You don’t “replace” him, but we need a viable alternative and we really don’t have one in Robertson, Aardsma, or Joba.

  54. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes November 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    you’re all OVERHYPING the draft pick Martin would net us.

    we’re already getting two from Soriano and Swisher and they’re draft picks…i.e. guys we need to develop.

    If you all are that worried about getting so many draft picks/prospects, then you should be lobbying for dealing Granderson and Cano while we still can.

  55. Shame Spencer November 28th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    blake November 28th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    “blake – A part of me says yes.. but it’s really going to depend. If Martin goes to play for someone else I’ll be glad they didn’t.. if they sign him to a 3-4 year deal, then I’ll be pissed they didn’t.”

    If he goes to play elsewhere then they would have gotten a draft pick !

    —————–

    Yeah but they dont know what to do with those anyway lol!

  56. G. Love November 28th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    I’m torn about Russell Martin.

    Part me of likes the guy in that I feel like he could be a leader here. He plays the game hard. He’s better than a backup catcher elevated into a starter in my opinion.

    If the Yankees weren’t so dead set on this budget thing I’d be all for giving him a 3 year deal with the understanding that if Romine or Sanchez are ready, he’ll share duties with them or back them up when the time comes.

    But if Cashman uses Martin’s contract as a reason why the team can’t improve and can’t resign Cano and build a solid rotation next season, they should pass on him.

    While he didn’t hit enough to warrant 8-10 million a year in my opinion, he plays hard, feels like a Yankee and I think the batting average could rise if he just stopped spinning in the batters box trying to pull things and took a more Jeter-like approach.

    While I won’t miss Swisher, I would miss Martin if we’re talking about replacing him with career backups. Martin’s better than that. He’s not an all star, but 20 HR’s and some grit would be missed if it’s not replaced with something adequate.

    I just get the feeling we’re going to see the AJ Pierzynski era for 1 or 2 years here rather than give Martin the 3rd & 4th years he’s seeking.

    AJ would be entertaining, but he almost feels like you’d be bringing in Bobby Valentine to the team.

  57. yankeefeminista November 28th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    For once I hope the Pirates outbid us. If we go four years (or even three years) on Martin, I think I will become physically sick.

    As per RAB on what went wrong with the prospects, I am not too worried about what went wrong and am not a fan of taking the temperature of young prospects like Bichette, et al at every turn, based on stats and without qualifiers. We have a ton of upside moving up, and some growing pains along the way certainly don’t diminish or say anything long term about the quality we have on the farm. I’ll bet we are ranked pretty darn high again after the 2013 season.

  58. ac1 November 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    If you all are that worried about getting so many draft picks/prospects, then you should be lobbying for dealing Granderson and Cano while we still can.

    _____

    I’ve been saying trade Granderson since September!

  59. bruceb November 28th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    Will be rather fitting if Martin ends up in Pittsburgh. 4/40 would be piracy on the high seas.

  60. Shame Spencer November 28th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal

    Some say #RedSox for NH native Brian Wilson. Don’t rule out #Dodgers. Lives in Malibu in winter. Another late-inning option with League.

    —————-

    Is this not about the Beach Boy? I want it to be about the Beach Boy.

  61. DONNYBROOK November 28th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    - BLAKE -
    Whether the Yanks “misread” the market is subject to question. To me, it comes down to whether Martin is worth 1yr $13.3 Mill? NO WAY

  62. DONNYBROOK November 28th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    You guys put a higher value on draft picks than I do. Besides, Hal aint gonna shell out all kinds of $$$ on draft picks anyway. You will see.

  63. Shame Spencer November 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    GLove – All kidding aside, I do agree with most of what you said regarding Martin. I do like his attitude and I do like his heart. If this were any other Yankee organization/era, I’d love to resign him for a few years knowing in at least 2 years he’ll be largely a back up/splitting time. But this JLo Yankee team can’t swing it. But you know what? They did this to themselves. They put themselves in a position to be taken to the bank by RUSSELL MARTIN.

  64. blake November 28th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    “If you all are that worried about getting so many draft picks/prospects, then you should be lobbying for dealing Granderson and Cano while we still can.”

    You don’t get draft picks for trading those guys…..but I’m if favor of trading Granderson and wouldn’t be opposed to dealing Cano either if they got the right return

  65. SoS November 28th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Hello fellas.
    I know there is no crying in baseball and especially being a man. But I just dropped by and caught the very sad news about my old friend. I have been posting here for 6 years now and consider some of you my family. I am in tears just right now typing but need to keep going. GB was like a father to me. I used to lol when he used to call people out on this blog with his original comebacks. He was such a good friend I knew at times he bit his toungue not going after me when I posted something ridiculous. I loved thinking of some personal conversations to have in the mornings with him i.e. the best shortstops ever, best war movie ever (dont think till this day he knew there was movies in color). I even watched TORA TORA TORA just to for him. I will miss his stories about his twin grand children his pizza/beer drinking dog and his one of a kind personality. I always tried to come in here and make people laugh. The warm up act to Nick. The guy that always seemed to make me laugh was this real hero. I miss all you old timers on this blog. Glad to see Doreen, upstate, raymag and others posting today. Hope mel is ok and just wanted to drop by and say thank you for making my work life all these years as enjoyable I could ever of hoped for. I would purposely turn down jobs that would negate me posting in the daytime. Can no longer do that but wanted to let everyone know how special this blog was to me and especially people like GB.
    RIP my old friend. You are sorely missed.

    PS. Still crying for a person I never met. Never met my grandmother that was over seas and did not cry when she passed. Sorry to keep this going this morning. Thank you for allowing me to get this off my chest.

    -SoS-

  66. blake November 28th, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    - BLAKE -
    Whether the Yanks “misread” the market is subject to question. To me, it comes down to whether Martin is worth 1yr $13.3 Mill? NO WAY

    Nope…..but he’s definately not worth 3/30 and they do need a catcher for 2013 …..better to over pay for one year than 3

  67. G. Love November 28th, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    Shame –

    Agreed. I’d love Martin on a 2 year contract, 3 max. Looking at the available alternatives and the amount of money we’re supposedly spending next season, he’s probably the best we can do right now.

    That being said, if he wants to go to Pittsburgh for 4 years, let him. This isn’t Jorge potentially leaving us for the Mets.

    I like Martin because I do feel he’s a gamer, but they cannot use his extension as an excuse for not improving in the coming years. We don’t need him that bad.

    Right now we have Kuroda, Mo, Hughes and probably Andy all on 1 year deals.

    3/5 ths of the rotation and the closer. They have to buy a pitching staff for next season desperately. You can’t blow it all on Martin for a sub .220 average and heart.

  68. J. Alfred Prufrock November 28th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Pittsburgh: take Martin, please!

    Really nice GB7 tributes by Yankeefem and SOS.

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock November 28th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    …and I don’t trust Cashman if he gives his mancrush a multi-year deal, to allow Gary Sanchez to ever see the light of day in pinstripes…

  70. J. Alfred Prufrock November 28th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    …not that I’m banking on Sanchez ever catching for us, any way…

  71. blake November 28th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    I like Martin ok and he is their best option at the moment …..if it weren’t for the budget Id say give him 3 years and hope he can hold the fort til Sanchez is ready……

    But if they are serious about getting under the cap by 2014 and that’s a definite to happen then I think giving him 8-10 million a year just makes an already very tight situation even tighter…..and I don’t think he’s better enough than the alternatives to do that

  72. blake November 28th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    @TBrownYahoo: Ryan Madson contract with Angels expected to be for about $3.5m base with $2.5m in roster bonuses and another $1m for games finished.

    If that’s a comp for a Soria deal then they need to sign him

  73. J. Alfred Prufrock November 28th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    I don’t even really buy Martin’s power. Mistake hitter, flyball hitter. Meh.

  74. Shame Spencer November 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Sos – Beautiful post.

    GLove – I think the reason they don’t want any money on the books is fear, tbh… if some of the Yankee vets make it clear they have something left in the tank this season, they could have a much more serious issue on their hands next off-season. As a fan I’m hoping Jeter, Mo and Andy all step up… as an unbiased member of the FO, I’m hoping they all break their legs with career ending injuries. Jeter and Mo are the ones that could hurt them the most, IMO. Mo, until last year, wasn’t having any trouble getting his 45ish saves. Jeter still hasn’t had consecutive seasons of missing a lot of playing time. Both are question marks given their recent injuries and ages…… but if they both have backs-of-their-baseball-card years…. oh man… the Yanks are in trouble.

  75. Don November 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    At least Martin hates the Red Sox.

  76. Jerkface November 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    It doesn’t matter if Martin is worth 13.3 or not if the market says he is. Just like your opinion on not offering money to Swisher or Soriano, it is irrelevant to a team’s front office like the Yankees whether they feel a player is worth it, or needs to be snubbed for some perceived slight. They have to do what is best for the team. If they are essentially going to be forced to sign Martin to a multi year deal for ~9-10 AAV then the qualifying offer was the best move. If he signs for 3-4 years with another team the qualifying offer was the best move.

    They get a draft pick or they get martin for 1 year at a premium.

  77. Duh Innings II November 28th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    RadioKev November 28th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Well that would be frustrating. No way should the Yankees go four years on Martin. Three is even a bit much.

    What’s the back up plan? Cervelli/Romine? I’d prefer that to signing AJ…

    —————————-

    What’s with all the AJ Pierzynski aversion/hate/whatever?

    He’s essentially Jorge Posada Revisited. AJ posted 27 HR and 74 RBI in 2012. He’s not a very good catcher, but neither was Posada, but that didn’t hurt the Yankees who went to four World Series with Posada as the full-time catcher and won half of them (AL pennants in 2001 and 2003 sandwiched by two WS championships in 2000 and 2009) and before that won the ’99 World Series with Posada as the primary catcher (as he shared the position with Girardi that year.)

    Pierzynski was the everyday catcher for the 2005 World Series champion Chicago White Sox. I’d offer him a year and $9M (his 2012 salary turned upside down as he made $6M in 2012) and if he asks for $10M, ok $10M, done, bye Martin, Yanks sign a guy who should smack at least 20 HR and drive in 60 runs and play better defense than Posada. Even if AJ posted only 15-17 HR, 50-55 RBI, that’s pretty good production from a backstop and an old one at that. How ’bout A-Rod finally show up again and post 25-30 HR and 100 RBI ie makes up for any offense and some defense lost letting go of Martin?

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