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The lingering question with Pettitte

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 29, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Andy Pettitte is signed. One year, $12 million. Forty-one years old in June. Five-man rotation in much better shape.

But here’s the number we still don’t know: How many innings can Pettitte actually pitch?

Because of injuries and premature retirement, Pettitte hasn’t reached 130 innings since 2009. Last year, even with the postseason he didn’t reach 100.

“I’m pretty confident,” Pettitte said yesterday. “I think 2010, I pulled the groin, so my innings were limited that year. I retired in 2011, then I threw the innings I did last year. I realize it’s been three years since I’ve pitched a normal full season. I know one thing, it’s going to be very good for me to know that I’m going (to pitch). I was training at the end of the season to get back for the postseason as best I could with my leg being broke, but knowing now that I have the rest of this offseason to train and get ready for a full season, I expect to be healthy. I expect to make my 34 starts or however many the Yankees want me to make. I think I can do that. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t try to do this again.

“I want to come and be an effective pitcher for us. For me, that’s going out there and taking my turn every fifth day, taking some of the pressure off the guys that are in the rotation right now.”

Even at his age, it’s hard to doubt that Pettitte can still be effective. He was terrific last season, and he’s talked about the limited workload making him feel fresh. What the Yankees need more than anything is a quality third starter, and Pettitte should give them that. But there has to be some question about just how much he can handle at this point.

It’s Pettitte, so another 200-inning season might not be out of the question. Can’t put it past him, but can’t count on it either.

“It was just like riding a bike last year,” Pettitte said. “From the first bullpen to the end, my command was good. My confidence was good. I felt like my focus was good. I don’t know. I feel like the older you get, you find a comfort level. I know that I really felt like that last year, and I hope to feel that exact same way this year all season.”

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216 Responses to “The lingering question with Pettitte”

  1. 86w183 November 29th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    when you look at the amazing consistency of his career — NO losing seasons — I’m pretty confident that he’ll be a very good starter if healthy… ERA probably in the 3.86 range which is seven innings, three earned runs.

    Pitching staff looks very strong, but I want an OF or two with power, preferably a RH bat for RF.

    Not as worried about catcher cuz strong offensive production back there is fairly rare anyway.

  2. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    The Yankees have enough depth to handle this.

    It would be nice if AP can go a full season but I do not think it’s mandatory.

    If the Yankees want even greater depth and insurance they can get a guy like Haren on a 1 yr. pillow contract.

    they need to concentrate on the their remaining holes, and upgrading the O in general.

  3. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Mop walk time.

    Back in a while.

    :)

  4. Yankee Trader November 29th, 2012 at 9:16 am

    This is the most money Pettitte will get, since 2008, when he got 16M.

    He said that he thinks the Yankees can field a good team that is competitive and can take him to one last World Series. I hope his contract left enough money for the Yankees to surround him with an offense that can achieve that goal.

    Maybe Cashman told him he’s promised to bring back his catcher-Martin and trade for a great bat for RF?

  5. Hassey November 29th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    any chance the HoF will consider a wing dedicated to players’ whose otherwordly performance is proven or rumored to be tied to PEDs?

    They can build it out back by the portopotties

  6. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    any chance the HoF will consider a wing dedicated to players’ whose otherwordly performance is proven or rumored to be tied to PEDs?

    They can build it out back by the portopotties

    ====================================

    You want to go back by the porto-potties to see plaques for Alex Rodriguez and Andy Pettitte?

  7. Triple Short of a Cycle November 29th, 2012 at 9:24 am

    I don’t put much credence in the drop of attendance having much to do with the “boring” nature of the team or the new ball park. I think the problem is two fold.

    1. The economy coupled with the high prices for parking and tickets.
    2. Braves syndrome. If the Yanks didn’t make the playoffs for a few years and then became “good” again attendance would rise.

  8. blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    I’m more concerned with the lingering questions about the offense

  9. Yankee Trader November 29th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Yankees should bring in Soria since Ryan Madson set the bar for a one year incentive contract coming of TJ surgery.

    deal is expected to be worth $3.5MM in guaranteed money, plus $2.5MM in roster bonuses and $1MM in incentives for games finished.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....WQwkqhO.99

    Plus this is Soria’s 2nd TJ..

  10. blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    The HOF is a museum for fans…..you cannot tell te story of baseball without including the steroid era and the best players from the era should be in the HOF……fans can decide for themselves where to rank these players against players from other periods.

    Just like you have to weigh players from the dead ball era vs other players in history….you subjectively weigh players from the steroid era…..but the juiced players who were the best among the juiced players should be in……and we should all move on and talk about other things

  11. Yankee Trader November 29th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    Blake-

    We want updates from Nashville.

    Offense as of now is a problem. Need to replace close to 100 homers without Swisher, Ibanez, Chavez, Jones and Martin, and that was with Ibanez and Chavez playing more than they should have.

  12. jacksquat November 29th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Needing a second TJ makes me a little nervous… he could be fine and pitch very well. A safer and maybe less expensive option is Uehara.

  13. blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    “Yankees should bring in Soria since Ryan Madson set the bar for a one year incentive contract coming of TJ surgery.”

    Yes and I think there is a good chance they do…Mariano is his idol and the idea of setting up for him for a year with a chance at succeeding him is probably attractive to him…..if Soria makes it back and is effective then you make Robertson a very dangerous fireman and the pen is stacked

  14. Yankee Trader November 29th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Blake-

    Thanks for the Pete Abe’s article on his take and plan for voting for the eligible HOF’ers. At this point I don’t care if suspected and known PED users get in.

  15. 86w183 November 29th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    I agree Soria is a sensible risk, though with all the $$$$ going to Pettitte, Kuroda and eventually Rivera I doubt they are looking to spend more money on the pitching staff unless/until they know how much $$$ it’s going to take to fill the voids in RF and at C.

  16. blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    The Yankees should add a big bat either via trade or josh Hamilton and then trade either Granderson or Gardner (whoever nets the best return) and sign a platoon partner for Ichiro

  17. Hassey November 29th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    I agree with Blake – Juiceheads competed with outher juiceheads, so it was a level playing field.

    Mr. Selig – TAKE DOWN THHAT WALL!

  18. Yankee Trader November 29th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Uehara would probably love to come to the Yankees. I believe the Yankees used to hit him hard.
    I believe Soria had a partial tear of the UCL this time, but that doesn’t make me feel any more secure that he had less invasive surgery and can make a full recovery.

  19. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    The HOF is a museum for fans…..you cannot tell te story of baseball without including the steroid era and the best players from the era should be in the HOF……fans can decide for themselves where to rank these players against players from other periods.

    Just like you have to weigh players from the dead ball era vs other players in history….you subjectively weigh players from the steroid era…..but the juiced players who were the best among the juiced players should be in……and we should all move on and talk about other things

    ====================

    This!

  20. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Mr. Selig – TAKE DOWN THHAT WALL!

    ====================

    This one can’t be pinned on Selig. It’s a sect of holier-than-thou HOF voters who feel they are proverbial guardian at the gate as it relates to allowing those dastardly PED users/suspects into the hallowed ground that is Cooperstown.

  21. blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    “This one can’t be pinned on Selig. It’s a sect of holier-than-thou HOF voters who feel they are proverbial guardian at the gate as it relates to allowing those dastardly PED users/suspects into the hallowed ground that is Cooperstown”

    Yes…..the same writers who waved Pom poms all summer in 1998 and collectively ignored what was right in front of their faces

  22. chicken little November 29th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Unless we know for a fact (positive test, confession, conviction) that a guy juiced, if the stats merit HOF, the player should be in. Palmiero and McGwire in my mind are out. The rest of them are in. Reality is, the HOF has plenty of racists, cheats, etc … in it. Look no further than this fact: Jackie Robinson and George Weiss (Yankee executive whose racist beliefs kept the club from signing Willie Mays) were inducted the same year. It should not be up to a bunch of sportswriters to play judge, jury, and executioner as to who did what, how it impacted the player, etc …

  23. Hassey November 29th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Selig, writers, whatever…just a Reagan-reference joke

  24. MaineYankee November 29th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    The problem with the steroid era is for every 1 known user there could be 3 that aren’t known.

    People say they should reveal the list of ones that tested positive but that is only a small representive of the ones who actually used.

    So how do you determine who is clean in the HOF.

    I don’t defend any that used but to single out only the known ones does’t mean the rest are clean.

    Also how the users are perceived varies. Look how Arod is portrayed versus Ortiz.

  25. blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    “So how do you determine who is clean in the HOF.”

    You can’t….,so that’s why they should just let all who put up the numbers in.

  26. jacksquat November 29th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:29 am
    The HOF is a museum for fans…..you cannot tell te story of baseball without including the steroid era and the best players from the era should be in the HOF……fans can decide for themselves where to rank these players against players from other periods.

    Just like you have to weigh players from the dead ball era vs other players in history….you subjectively weigh players from the steroid era…..but the juiced players who were the best among the juiced players should be in……and we should all move on and talk about other things

    Hassey November 29th, 2012 at 9:35 am
    I agree with Blake – Juiceheads competed with outher juiceheads, so it was a level playing field.

    Mr. Selig – TAKE DOWN THHAT WALL!

    These arguments would make sense if everyone was juicing. But that’s not the case. So what you are advocating is putting in the best juicers and leaving out the guys who played naturally and whose stats don’t look as good in comparison.

    Sorry, letting in the cheaters who pushed out the natural players is not right imo.

  27. blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    I don’t think Big Mac is a HOFer even without the PED stuff…..Sosa is questionable and so is Palmero…..Barry Bonds there is no question …..anybody who saw this guy play and doesn’t think he’s one of the 10 best players ever…..steroids or not is nuts.

  28. blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    “These arguments would make sense if everyone was juicing. But that’s not the case. ”

    But we have no idea who was and who wasn’t …..they kept Bagwell out merely because of suspicion with no evidence whatsoever……it’s become a witch hunt

  29. blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Carlos Ruiz just had a career year then was busted for amphetamines…..are we to conclude that it was because of the amphetamines and if so….what does that say about all the players currently on the HOF that have admitted to taking greenies?

  30. blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    Ruiz’s Ops jumped most 200 pts at age 33….yet you won’t hear a fraction of the outrage as you did with Melky who’s numbers jumped at 27

  31. MaineYankee November 29th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:48 am
    “So how do you determine who is clean in the HOF.”

    You can’t….,so that’s why they should just let all who put up the numbers in.

    ——————————————————————————-

    One issue I have with that is if using allowed someone to extend their career in order to put up the numbers.

    From what I heard it seemed like McGwire was breaking down and steroids allowed him to play longer.

    So the question is, would he have lasted long enough to put up HOF numbers without steroids.

  32. blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    “So the question is, would he have lasted long enough to put up HOF numbers without steroids.”

    Would mantle have lasted without amphetamines?

  33. jacksquat November 29th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:52 am
    “These arguments would make sense if everyone was juicing. But that’s not the case. ”

    But we have no idea who was and who wasn’t …..they kept Bagwell out merely because of suspicion with no evidence whatsoever……it’s become a witch hunt

    Which is wrong imo. Bagwell never tested positive and wasn’t otherwise an obvious juicer like Bonds.

    I think at least the proven/obvious should not be voted for, even if it is likely they would have had HoF numbers if they hadn’t used steroids at some point (again, Bonds).

  34. jacksquat November 29th, 2012 at 10:03 am

    blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:01 am
    “So the question is, would he have lasted long enough to put up HOF numbers without steroids.”

    Would mantle have lasted without amphetamines?

    Who cares? Just go from this point forward. Do we let murderers go free who couldn’t have been proven guilty in the past without dna matching? (it’s just an analogy, not comparing steroid users to murderers)

  35. jacksquat November 29th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:50 am
    I don’t think Big Mac is a HOFer even without the PED stuff…..Sosa is questionable and so is Palmero…..Barry Bonds there is no question …..anybody who saw this guy play and doesn’t think he’s one of the 10 best players ever…..steroids or not is nuts

    Frankly, I don’t give a damn. No decision necessary, you used, you’re out. Bonds out, McGwire out, Sosa out, Palmeiro out, Clemens out.

  36. longtimefan November 29th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    longtimefan November 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am
    RE: Cheaters and the HOF. IMO, once a so called “known” cheater makes it into the hall it opens up the doors for the others. personally I feel this dis-repects the other players that put together legitmate careers to make it into the hall based on their merits. Clemens, Bonds, Palmiero, Sosa, McGuire et al may not have been convicted of cheating but don’t forget OJ was acquitted of murder but everyone pretty much knows he did the deed. Sad day for baseball when cheaters are given a free pass into the hall.

  37. blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:12 am

    “Who cares? Just go from this point forward”

    Who cares if Mac could have then? I don’t think we should pick and choose …..

  38. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    I feel this dis-repects the other players that put together legitmate careers to make it into the hall based on their merits

    ============================

    But nobody knows for sure who those players are.

  39. blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    You’d have to throw 90% of the HOFers out I bet of you went by today’s rules

  40. Hassey November 29th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Big Mac? I always preferred the Whopper

  41. 86w183 November 29th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    All of MLB was complicit in the steroid era, ALL of it. From the Commissioner to Owners to the MLBPA to players who used and players who kept quiet to the media that looked the other way to fans who bought the tickets.

    It’s ridiculous to ban players from Cooperstown for using substances that baseball had no rules against and no punishment for the use of. It’s like getting handed a jail sentence for underage drinking from age 19-20 because they lowered the drinking age AFTER those years.

    Creating a severe punishment that didn’t exist for behavior that wasn’t against the rules at the time is so incredibly unfair. It’s pathetic that so many sanctimonious frauds feel otherwise.

    We know a few who used. We know 103 tested positive when the program began which proves use was extremely widespread since there was plenty of advance warning that many undoubtedly used to stop before testing.

    I suggest some of you view Pete Abraham’s column from the other day. It’s a great self evaluation of the fraudulent mindset that he has outgrown.

  42. jacksquat November 29th, 2012 at 10:18 am

    Yes, let’s all follow that idiot Pete Abraham. :roll:

  43. jacksquat November 29th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:12 am
    “Who cares? Just go from this point forward”

    Who cares if Mac could have then? I don’t think we should pick and choose …..

    You were talking about Mantle, now you are switching to McGwire?

  44. MaineYankee November 29th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:01 am
    “So the question is, would he have lasted long enough to put up HOF numbers without steroids.”

    Would mantle have lasted without amphetamines?

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    If McGwire stopped using steroids and Mantle stopped amphetamines who “could” change their life style and continue to put up HOF numbers and who couldn’t.

  45. MaineYankee November 29th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    86w183

    Creating a severe punishment that didn’t exist for behavior that wasn’t against the rules at the time is so incredibly unfair. It’s pathetic that so many sanctimonious frauds feel otherwise.

    ————————————————————————————————-

    I agree with this with one exception.

    It was against the law to use steroids without a prescription.

    So technically it was against the rules.

  46. RayVT November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    MaineYankee November 29th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Or if Mantle had the medical attention of today to his knee back then, what kind of numbers might he have put up w/o the pain he went thru every day because he didn’t.

  47. longtimefan November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    You’d have to throw 90% of the HOFers out I bet of you went by today’s rules

    Opinion not fact.

  48. spidanyc November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    If the Yankees sign Soria, I would consider trading Dave Robertson in the right deal as I feel that Mark Montgomery will be the next Dave Robertson within a year.

    Grandy, Nova, Robertson, Tyler Austin and Eduardo Nunez for King Felix.

    Seattle needs offense and gets an instant 35 HR guys in Grandy and Tyler Austin who is a top 50 prospect who they can plug in for 2014. Robertson will be their closer. Nova can be a#3 for them. I’ve heard that Eduardo’s bat and speed intrigues the Seattle GM.

    Does this make sense and is this fair?

  49. jacksquat November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    86w183 November 29th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    It’s ridiculous to ban players from Cooperstown for using substances that baseball had no rules against and no punishment for the use of. It’s like getting handed a jail sentence for underage drinking from age 19-20 because they lowered the drinking age AFTER those years.

    Creating a severe punishment that didn’t exist for behavior that wasn’t against the rules at the time is so incredibly unfair. It’s pathetic that so many sanctimonious frauds feel otherwise.

    June 7, 1991 — Commissioner Fay Vincent sends a memo to each team announcing that steroids have been added to the league’s banned list.

  50. MaineYankee November 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    RayVT November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am
    MaineYankee November 29th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Or if Mantle had the medical attention of today to his knee back then, what kind of numbers might he have put up w/o the pain he went thru every day because he didn’t.

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    Good point.

    That’s why it’s hard to compare generations.

  51. 86w183 November 29th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Creating a severe punishment that didn’t exist for behavior that wasn’t against the rules at the time is so incredibly unfair. It’s pathetic that so many sanctimonious frauds feel otherwise.

    ————————————————————————————————-

    I agree with this with one exception.

    It was against the law to use steroids without a prescription.

    So technically it was against the rules.

    ********************************************************************

    If you can prove they were illegally obtained it could be considered against the rules, but everyone knows those “rules” were put in to deal with recreational drugs.

    As for Fay Vincent’s memo it was meaningless, feckless nonsense that was not collectively bargained and thus was laughed off by the union.

  52. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Didn’t see Abraham’s piece. Is it in the Globe?

    Complicity, though, is so right. Not only in the so-called steroid “era”, but even now. The culture of use continues, and according to people in the game, it’s a “real problem.” So, how can it be a “real problem” if only a few guys get busted every year? It’s a real problem, because those on the inside know that the problem is systemic, backed by the occasional observation made that players are advised on how to use and still have negative tests. Guys fly through all the time, I’m sure. The hypocrisy is thick.

  53. randy l. November 29th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    “Would mantle have lasted without amphetamines?”

    blake-

    it’s an absurd position to take that old time players like mantle using stimulants is similar to steroid era players juicing up.

    jacking up one’s testosterone is a whole different animal than speeding up one’s metabolism to get over hangovers.

    i once was leaning on a fence in spring training watching BP and juan gonzalez leaned on the same fence a few feet away.i looked at our two arms, his arm on that fence was about triple in size as mine with veins bulging out all over. it didn’t look human.

    take all the greenies you want. you’re not going to get arms like that from them or the strength and rage that goes along with the testosterone boost.

    there’s no obvious line between cheating and not cheating, but the extremes are easy to see. long gone juan ain’t getting onto any hall of fame.

    71523
    RIP

  54. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Hmmm. Seems MLBPA is on the cusp of adding year round testing for HGH.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....-says.html

  55. MaineYankee November 29th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    86w183

    If you can prove they were illegally obtained it could be considered against the rules

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    Do you think the players that used all had a prescription?

    I know they could get one if needed but we could add “and buts” to infinity.

  56. jacksquat November 29th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    86w183 November 29th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Creating a severe punishment that didn’t exist for behavior that wasn’t against the rules at the time is so incredibly unfair. It’s pathetic that so many sanctimonious frauds feel otherwise.

    ————————————————————————————————-

    I agree with this with one exception.

    It was against the law to use steroids without a prescription.

    So technically it was against the rules.

    ********************************************************************

    If you can prove they were illegally obtained it could be considered against the rules, but everyone knows those “rules” were put in to deal with recreational drugs.

    As for Fay Vincent’s memo it was meaningless, feckless nonsense that was not collectively bargained and thus was laughed off by the union.

    Ok, you continue to make excuses for cheaters while calling people like me “sanctimonious frauds”.

    I’m out.

  57. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Or if Mantle had the medical attention

    *****

    Or the media attention – if today’s media was around then – Mantle’s drinking and lifestyle would have been a topic everyday. It is the same as if JFK was around with today’s 24/7 media cycle and press not having that handshake agreement to look the other way on personal stories. Today – it is the personal stories that make more of the news for the media and spectators than the accomplishments sometimes.

  58. blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    “it’s an absurd position to take that old time players like mantle using stimulants is similar to steroid era players juicing up.”

    Not really….do you honestly think mantle could have played through all those injuries ….all those nights out drinking etc without something to help keep his energy up? There is know way of knowing…. Just like there is no way of knowing…..

  59. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    The rules of the game of baseball and the rules of MLB and society cannot be separated – - – -

  60. blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    “You were talking about Mantle, now you are switching to McGwire?”

    No… You asked if McGwire could have played long enough to hit all those homers without steroids…..and I asked if Mantle could have done the same without amphetamines?

  61. MaineYankee November 29th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    feckless nonsense that was not collectively bargained and thus was laughed off by the union.

    ——————————————————————————————

    And that’s one of the reasons MLB still has the spotlight on them and the NFL doesn’t.

  62. 86w183 November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 am

    Which is why banning a handful of players from Cooperstown makes no sense.

    Why should 10-15 guys pay the entire price for the steroid era when everyone from the Commissioner on down was part of it.

    Cooperstown is loaded with racists, drug and alcohol abusers, spousal abusers, pill poppers, spit ballers and bal suffers. It can tolerate a few steroid users too.

    What’s really a sad commentary on this situation is that while the BBWAA is taking a hard line on the players tied to steroids, the veterans committee is considering the enshrinement of Jake Ruppert — one of the most powerful owners who insisted on keeping the game “negro-free” for decades.

    Talk about misplaced priorities.

  63. blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 am

    Randy,

    How do you explain Carlos Ruiz’s 200 PT OPS jump at age 33 in the same year he was busted for amphetamines? Was it related? How can you conclude it wasn’t ?

  64. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 am

    And that’s one of the reasons MLB still has the spotlight on them and the NFL doesn’t

    ======================================

    Been plenty of spotlight on the NFL recently. 25 postive tests so far this season. Improved testing is catching on to some stuff perhaps?

  65. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Cooperstown is loaded with racists, drug and alcohol abusers, spousal abusers, pill poppers, spit ballers and bal suffers. It can tolerate a few steroid users too.

    *****

    It depends on how baseball views the steroids – remember – Eight Men Out and the Black Sox are not in the HOF – - – -

  66. blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    BTW….I was in no way trying to downplay mantle’s greatness…..just trying to be objective and point out that I think it’s unfair to pick and chose what level of ” cheating” is acceptable and what isn’t…..

  67. 86w183 November 29th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Yes, but they conspired to LOSE the World Series.

    Those who took steroids, amphetamines, scuffed balls and so on were trying to WIN, trying to do better trying to be great.

    I’m not a fan of PED use, but I don’t think everyone who tried them is a pariah, a cheater or a low life. A player who pops a pill to get the energy thru a day game after a night game is no more or less immoral than a guy who takes Andro or any other substance.

    Just stop the damn witch hunts.

  68. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    It depends on how baseball views the steroids – remember – Eight Men Out and the Black Sox are not in the HOF – – – -

    ===========================

    Only 1-2 (Jackson, maybe Cicotte) should be, and both were banned from baseball all together and are thus ineligible for HOF consideration. Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, etc, are eligible for HOF consideration and allowed to be involved with the game in any manner they wish. Guess that tells us a little something about how baseball views the issue.

  69. blake November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    But I so think it’s pretty interesting that Ruiz had a career year after taking a substance that many folks in the hall admitted to taking…..yet nobody on the media will make that connection out loud because all the old timers were clean and all the steroid guys were scoundrels…….

  70. MaineYankee November 29th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    AAA November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    And that’s one of the reasons MLB still has the spotlight on them and the NFL doesn’t

    ======================================

    Been plenty of spotlight on the NFL recently. 25 postive tests so far this season. Improved testing is catching on to some stuff perhaps?

    —————————————————————————————-

    They have been suspending players for years without the ado that is going on in MLB.

    I suspect the usage is increasing in the NFL because the financial gain is worth the risk. Also the penalty isn’t increasing as the usage seems to have gone up.

    The player from the Patriots was a fringe player that might not have made the team without using. At least that’s what the Boston guys were saying.

    With the penalty for his suspension he still should have a net gain.

  71. pat November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    “We didn’t get beat, we got out-milligrammed,” he said. “And when you found out what they were taking, you started taking them.”

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com.....ouse_x.htm

  72. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    With the penalty for his suspension he still should have a net gain.

    ============================

    Yeah, kinda like Melky Cabrera.

  73. 86w183 November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    Blake —

    Looks like we’re of the same mind on this. We seem to be outnumbered, but that’s okay.

    By the way amphetamines were created in WW I and have been part of baseball since. I doubt there’s anyone who played from 1925-1990 that never took anything “off the books”.

  74. RMS November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    Who here really cares who is or is not in the HOF?

  75. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    “By the way amphetamines were created in WW I and have been part of baseball since. I doubt there’s anyone who played from 1925-1990 that never took anything “off the books”.”

    Testerone is old as life itself too ;)

  76. 86w183 November 29th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    All drugged out… gonna go pop some caffeine…. later

  77. pat November 29th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Happy Birthday Mo!

  78. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    @jonmorosi: A number of execs told me this week they believe free agent Anibal Sanchez is going to get a five-year contract or better.

    The market is crazy

  79. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    @jonmorosi: A number of execs told me this week they believe free agent Anibal Sanchez is going to get a five-year contract or better.

    ===================================

    Lordy!

    It is things like this that make more and more distant the possibility of someone like Haren (who many here have suggested on a 1 year deal) getting more than one year.

  80. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Blake-

    But guys like Hughes, Nova, and Phelps don’t have good trade value.

    ;)

  81. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    @jaysonst: An exec who asked about Joe Mauer says he was told no way: “He’s got a no-trade. He’s the face of our team & we’re not in salary-dump mode”

  82. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    To correct myself:

    It is things like this that make more and more distant the possibility of someone like Haren (who many here have suggested on a 1 year deal) NOT getting more than one year.

  83. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Yes, but they conspired to LOSE the World Series.

    Those who took steroids, amphetamines, scuffed balls and so on were trying to WIN, trying to do better trying to be great.

    ******

    Very true – but baseball appears to be viewing it in a similar light as impacting the itegrity of the game – - – -

  84. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    “MTU says:
    November 29, 2012 at 11:07 am
    Blake-

    But guys like Hughes, Nova, and Phelps don’t have good trade value.”

    They do have value….but I don’t think any team wound trade a big young bat like the yanks need for Anibal Sanchez either….. It’s easier for teams to spend money these days than to trade their good players.

  85. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Proven, cost-controlled young pitching = Valuable.

  86. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    But guys like Hughes, Nova, and Phelps don’t have good trade value.

    ===============================

    None of those guys are as good as A Sanchez. Hughes may be one day. But that’ll be about the time someone is giving him a 5 year deal that most will similarly mock.

  87. Tyler November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    15 million for 5 years of BJ Upton, 5 years potentially for Anibal Sanchez… minor league talent is the way to go for the future.

  88. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Considering Sanchez and Greinke have fairly similar numbers…..I guess it’s not a that surprising that Snachez might get 5 years when they are talkin about Greinke potentially beating CCs deal…..

    I think Sanchez stays with the Tigers

  89. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    If Hughes has a good 2013 he will get 5 years too

  90. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    AAA November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 am
    It depends on how baseball views the steroids – remember – Eight Men Out and the Black Sox are not in the HOF – – – -

    ===========================

    Only 1-2 (Jackson, maybe Cicotte) should be, and both were banned from baseball all together and are thus ineligible for HOF consideration. Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, etc, are eligible for HOF consideration and allowed to be involved with the game in any manner they wish. Guess that tells us a little something about how baseball views the issue.

    ******

    No it does not really. As of now – steroid suspensions can lead you to being banned from the game – like Eight Men Out. The problem baseball is grappling with his how to deal with everything that came before. While with Eight Men Out – the Judge Commish took action at the time of the scandal – here – the scandals for Clemens, Bonds, and Sosa took place years or even decades ago – Eight Men Out it happened right there that offseason after the series.

    Again – we do not know how baseball views it – the writers are saying one thing – the commish another with having reports and other things – the fans do not seem to care – it is a mess – but right or wrong – a similar Eight Men Out situation is playing out for anyone associated with steroids – it is just the commish’s office is letting the writers do the dirty work – whereas with Eight Men Out – the new Judge Commish did it more officially for the league – - – -

  91. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Proven, cost-controlled young pitching = Valuable.

    ===============================

    True. However, Hughes’ cost control is almost expired and the other two aren’t proven.

  92. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Blake-

    The money given is a reflection of scarcity and value.

    Hughes, Nova, and Phelps are NOT chopped liver.

    They are valuable trade pieces. Each in their own way.

    Contrary to what some may thing they are not totally fungible.

    Luckily for us we can spare one if we so choose.

  93. Against All Odds November 29th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    blake November 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    “This one can’t be pinned on Selig. It’s a sect of holier-than-thou HOF voters who feel they are proverbial guardian at the gate as it relates to allowing those dastardly PED users/suspects into the hallowed ground that is Cooperstown”

    Yes…..the same writers who waved Pom poms all summer in 1998 and collectively ignored what was right in front of their faces

    ——————–

    And now have become detectives running down every steroid rumor even though the public no longer cares

  94. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    AAA-

    I beg to differ on Nova.

    How many games has he won in his brief career ?

    How good is his stuff when he’s on ?

    If he irons out the command issue he’s terrific.

    He’s still young.

    I’m not even sure I want to trade him just that I’d consider it.

    ;)

  95. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    we do not know how baseball views it

    =======================

    We do now. Just as we know they were complicit in the problem for portions of the 80′s, 90′s and 00′s. For HOF purposes, it doesn’t matter though. It’s in the hands of the voters, not baseball.

  96. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    “Hughes, Nova, and Phelps are NOT chopped liver.”

    I didn’t say they were….the question though is whether they can bring the type of bat they need and it’s that that I’m unsure of

  97. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    I am fine with some combination of Nova, Phelps, Turley, Marshall – maybe Ramirez ( but probably not until 2015 for him) filling out spots 3-5. As always – it is going to be that second slot – it is really nice to have Kuroda – but how to replace him for 2014 will be interesting – - – -

  98. Tyler November 29th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    I think that Hughes really is the only one that can be used as a centerpiece in a deal. He hasn’t been fantastic but he’s proven that at worst he can throw a 4.00 ERA in the AL East which is nothing to complain about. Nova had a fantastic rookie year but last year was tough… he’s still young and has value but I think it’s dropped. Phelps is still unproven (although I liked what he did last year) and is actually around the same age as Nova.

  99. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Blake-

    When packaged in a deal I’m not.

    We have plenty to offer IMO.

    Will Cashman bust a move ?

    No idea.

    He is tending to hoard a bit too much at the moment to suit my perspective.

  100. Patrick November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Hughes has 1 year left before free agency and is a 4-5 starter at best. He’s not the center piece to any deal

  101. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    If Hughes had 2+ years of control left right now he’d be a very valuable trade chip I think…..sucks that he’s finally seemingly putting it together when he’s almost a FA

  102. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:15 am
    we do not know how baseball views it

    =======================

    We do now. Just as we know they were complicit in the problem for portions of the 80?s, 90?s and 00?s. For HOF purposes, it doesn’t matter though. It’s in the hands of the voters, not baseball.

    ******

    As far as official legaue office baseball – we do not know about past players – we know about future baseball players – they get banned outright after a series of failures – Eight Men Out style. Right now – the league office is ambivalent about the past users pre-ban – they have punted to the voters – - – -

  103. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    I think that Hughes really is the only one that can be used as a centerpiece in a deal

    =====================================

    He’s the best of the lot, but he’s also a free agent after next season, which impacts his trade value negatively.

  104. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    MTU,

    I hope your right but I have reservations about Cashman’s ability to get creative enough and his willingness to take from the big league roster enough to make a deal happen that actually makes the team better…..we’ll see.

  105. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    You do not overpay Hughes market prices – he is more the equivalent of Joba in the pen than what Robertson is to the pen – Yanks unfortunately have yet to develop a starter with Robertson’s type impact on the pen as to the rotation – - – -

  106. Tyler November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    Patrick November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    Hughes has 1 year left before free agency and is a 4-5 starter at best. He’s not the center piece to any deal
    ——————————————————————–

    1 year left on his contract is what hurts. I don’t agree that he’s a 4-5 starter at best. If he went to the NL right now, he’d be a number 2 at worst.

  107. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    Pretty obvious to me that I’m in the minority here in my view of young arms, there relative worth, and how they develop.

    And that it’s quite a bit different than some.

    But that’s cool.

    :)

  108. Patrick November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    1 year left on his contract is what hurts. I don’t agree that he’s a 4-5 starter at best. If he went to the NL right now, he’d be a number 2 at worst.

    Maybe, but it’s no guarantee.

  109. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Blake-

    ” I have reservations about Cashman’s ability to get creative enough and his willingness to take from the big league roster enough to make a deal happen that actually makes the team better…..we’ll see.”

    Now that’s a different thing. On that point I agree.

  110. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    meant to add possibly Matt Tracy – - – -

  111. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    MTU,
    Your optimism is admirable :)

  112. Against All Odds November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Yanks unfortunately have yet to develop a starter with Robertson’s type impact on the pen as to the rotation – – – -

    ————–

    Which is crazy when you think about it. The best pitcher out of all of those players from a few yrs ago is Drob. Melancon was supposed to be that guy.

  113. RayVT November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    The problem with the differences in eras of baseball is that not much is the same. That is why comparing against the norm of that era is so important.

    Things we take for granted today were not possible back years ago.
    Training, eye contacts, eye surgery, exercise equipment, travel by private jets, quality hotels & sleep, knee surgeries, baseballs themselves, bat quality, uniforms, night games versus day, lighting on field, Pitchers hitting vs DH, longevity of players, freezing of baseballs by home teams, & on & on!

    There are so many things not the same. Plus what can someone get by with as ooposed to not being able too. Under scrutiny of the press, perhaps Mantle would have played less off the field & maintained his health. Also, how would he have faired as a Yankee DH? How many more years could he have played. What if HGH had helped him heal faster? What if Ted Williams had not had two wars to fight? So many whatifs which makes the imperfect game of baseball so real!

  114. Tyler November 29th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    MTU-

    There’s no doubt that proven young pitching is gold but I just think those 3 each either aren’t proven or have other issues (like 1 year left in the deal which I had forgotten about with Hughes).

  115. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Right now – the league office is ambivalent about the past users pre-ban – they have punted to the voters –

    ============================

    Again, given their complicity, they’ve left themselves with little choice.

    They’re all eligible. And they’re all eligible because EVRYONE sat on the thumbs and did nothing about it for 2 decades plus. The Steroid Era is part of baseball history, and the HOF is, for lack of a better term, a memorial that history. Ignoring 20 or so years of accomplishments over that period because of aspects that leave a bad taste in the mouths of some seems foolish from where I sit, especially when none of the arbiters know anywhere near everything they need to know. I think you have to let the era and numbers recorded therein speak for themselves and vote accordingly.

  116. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Against All Odds November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    Yanks unfortunately have yet to develop a starter with Robertson’s type impact on the pen as to the rotation – – – -

    ————–

    Which is crazy when you think about it. The best pitcher out of all of those players from a few yrs ago is Drob. Melancon was supposed to be that guy.

    *****

    Very true – I chalk it up to the egg/omelette theory – you have to break a lot of eggs to make an omelette sometimes – - – -but there are a heck of a lot of eggs coming on the relief front – at least the Yanks do not have to worry about overspending on the pen potentially – - – -

  117. Tyler November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Patrick November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    1 year left on his contract is what hurts. I don’t agree that he’s a 4-5 starter at best. If he went to the NL right now, he’d be a number 2 at worst.

    Maybe, but it’s no guarantee.
    ——————————————————

    Well ya, but there are few very guarantees in the entire MLB with regards to young pitching. Some NL team would love him for 4 years. If Kyle Lohse pitched sub 3 last year, I have no doubts that Hughes could.

  118. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Blake-

    I never said Cashman WILL do anything just that he can.

    He has the pieces to pull off a big trade.

    And as long as we are vertical why not try to be optimistic ?

    Never know what tomorrow can bring. Might be something good too.

    Right ?

    I am not EXPECTING anything just hoping.

    :)

  119. PacoDooley November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    Blake-

    The money given is a reflection of scarcity and value.

    Hughes, Nova, and Phelps are NOT chopped liver.
    —————————————

    Yes, technically speaking they are Yankees pitchers. However, each has a significant reason why he is not really all that valuable. Hughes has been the best of the bunch, but will be a FA and is getting more expensive. Phelps has no real track record, despite his limited success. Nova was briefly reasonably good, but his peripherals are not great and he has also been terrible for stretches.

  120. chicken little November 29th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Problem with Yankees prospects and the mentality is this: (a) Yankee prospects by and large seem to hit their peak by AAA and don’t become the studs the Yanks hype them up to be, (b) everyone knows this, and (c) Cashman hoards his prospects and seems to be very nervous about making a huge mistake with trading an A or AA “stud” player …

  121. Tyler November 29th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Yanks unfortunately have yet to develop a starter with Robertson’s type impact on the pen as to the rotation
    —————————————————————

    To be fair to the starters, it is “easier” to be an impact reliever than starter. If Hughes stayed in the ‘pen he’d probably be a top 3 setup man in baseball still. Impact young starters are brutally hard to find/develop.

  122. Patrick November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    I’m sure some NL team would happily sign Hughes for their rotation but none of them would give away anything of major value to get him in a trade.

  123. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    1 year left on his contract is what hurts. I don’t agree that he’s a 4-5 starter at best. If he went to the NL right now, he’d be a number 2 at worst.

    =======================================

    #2 at worst? There is no postseason contending team in the NL in which Phil Hughes would be a #2 starter. If he’s a #2 starter it’s for a team buried deep in the 2nd division.

  124. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Tyler-

    I say the same thing to you that I have tried to say to others.

    IMO you are underestimating their value.

    They are not as fungible as some think.

    Of course, I don’t only look at #’s. That part puts me in the Dinosaur category.

    :(

  125. NYYROC November 29th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    I read that SD was willing to pay Kuroda $2MM more than the NYY on a 1 year deal. If that is true I think they’d be interested in PH in a trade. He has 1 year left and he makes a lot less than Kuroda. PH would be really good in PetCo. Park. Don’t wanna see PH go, just saying…

  126. MTU November 29th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    And Headley would be very good at NYS.

    :)

  127. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    The NL might be better than the AL now so Im not sure the whole “NL pitcher ” stuff still applies

  128. Tyler November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am
    1 year left on his contract is what hurts. I don’t agree that he’s a 4-5 starter at best. If he went to the NL right now, he’d be a number 2 at worst.

    =======================================

    #2 at worst? There is no postseason contending team in the NL in which Phil Hughes would be a #2 starter. If he’s a #2 starter it’s for a team buried deep in the 2nd division.
    ———————————————————————————-

    The number 2 on the Cardinals was Kyle Lohse who has a career 4.88 ERA in the AL. I’ll take Hughes. The Braves had a 38 year old Tim Hudson. That’s also close. Other than the Phillies, Nats (with a healthy Strasburg), and the Giants ( I don’t know how Vogelsong does it but he gets the job done), I think Hughes could compete with nearly every other #2 out there. Mat Latos or Hughes? That’s a toss-up too for me.

  129. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    I think SD would love Hughes…..I also think the Yankees would have to include a lot more to get Headley

  130. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am

    For Headley my guess is it would take Hughes plus 2 of their top 5 prospects

  131. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:38 am

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  132. Tyler November 29th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    The NL might be better than the AL now so Im not sure the whole “NL pitcher ” stuff still applies
    —————————————————————–

    I still think the DH makes a huge difference. Facing 1 more “real” hitter than a pitcher is tough,

  133. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Mat Latos or Hughes? That’s a toss-up too for me.

    =======================

    Mrs. Hughes?

  134. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    “I still think the DH makes a huge difference. Facing 1 more “real” hitter than a pitcher is tough,”

    It makes a difference in a guys numbers….not how good they are though.

  135. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    NL style baseball is better suited to win in this era of weak offense.

  136. The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    To be fair to the starters, it is “easier” to be an impact reliever than starter.

    ****

    For a season – yes – but several seasons as an impact reliever – which is what Robertson looks as if he is becoming – it is not as easy to find – reliever as so volatile – have one or two great years and then they become Brian Wilson and get non-tendered. While finding an impact starter is probably one of the hardest things to do in the game – the Yanks have obviously not been successful absent signing C.C. – and to an extent – it appears Kuroda last year and of course Andy from time to time – - -

  137. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    I still think the DH makes a huge difference. Facing 1 more “real” hitter than a pitcher is tough

    =============================

    Definitely still does. Average production for DL spot in AL last year was .758 OPS, 23 HR, 83 RBI.

    That obviously isn’t comin’ from NL pitchers.

  138. Tyler November 29th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Mat Latos or Hughes? That’s a toss-up too for me.

    =======================

    Mrs. Hughes?
    ————————————————————-

    Latos is only 1 year younger. He had 1 fantastic year and the rest have been around 3.50 in the NL Central and NL West. That’s not toss-up range for Hughes? I think Phil could do that in the NL Central.

  139. Against All Odds November 29th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    The Return of Stoneburner November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Against All Odds November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    Yanks unfortunately have yet to develop a starter with Robertson’s type impact on the pen as to the rotation – – – -

    ————–

    Which is crazy when you think about it. The best pitcher out of all of those players from a few yrs ago is Drob. Melancon was supposed to be that guy.

    *****

    Very true – I chalk it up to the egg/omelette theory – you have to break a lot of eggs to make an omelette sometimes – – – -but there are a heck of a lot of eggs coming on the relief front – at least the Yanks do not have to worry about overspending on the pen potentially – – – -
    ——–

    Yes the pen will be the least of their worries. I as well as many others have criticized them on a number of issues and rightfully so but they excel when it comes to putting a pen together.

  140. Shame Spencer November 29th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    The Dodgers are going to sign Hughes as insurance for their sick rotation… eff the effing Dodgers who will sign ALL the players.

  141. AAA November 29th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Latos is only 1 year younger. He had 1 fantastic year and the rest have been around 3.50 in the NL Central and NL West. That’s not toss-up range for Hughes? I think Phil could do that in the NL Central

    =====================================

    As a starting pitcher, Phil Hughes is 46-34 with a 4.68 ERA and 1.33 WHIP for his career. I’m going to say NO to the tossup, but also apologize for the snarky “Mrs. Hughes?” remark. Uncalled for on my part. Sorry.

  142. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    @DKnobler: Royals have checked in on Lester, Shields, Dickey, but don’t want to deal Perez, Myers, @JonHeymanCBS reports. http://t.co/XQ9D2JYv

  143. blake November 29th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    The Dodgers will sign Greinke , Sanchez, and pay the Yankees 75 million dollars for the rights to sign Hughes now!

  144. DONNYBROOK November 29th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    You guys recall the ALCS??? The Yanks need sticks, or at least sticks that make productive outs. The Rotation is in Very good shape, and likewise the Pen. The discussion here should be centering on which Chuckers do we include inna trade, and whether to include Bushers in order to garner J Upton.
    BJ Upton’s $15 Mill per, is probably what Swish is also gonna get.
    Martin playing for the Pirates??? He would have to swallow hard to play for a Losing organization like that. His agent is probably begging Cashman to throw them a bone, so that Martin can save face, and play where he Really wants to play.

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    I have no way to know who is available or if the team has players other teams want. They just need to try, and they have to see what Granderson would bring.

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