Granderson to again serve as MLB ambassador
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 01, 2012 
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Here are all the details from Major League Baseball…
Curtis Granderson, outfielder for the New York Yankees, is spending part of his off-season growing athe game of baseball internationally as part of the MLB International Ambassador program. Granderson will spend three days in Korea followed by an eight-day stay representing Major League Baseball in Japan. Throughout his stay from December 1st to 13th, Granderson will participate in grassroots initiatives and make several appearances, including the re-opening of the Ishinomaki Municipal Baseball Stadium which was damaged in the 2011 earthquake and tsunami.
Granderson will first travel to Seoul, Korea where he will participate in a baseball clinic and donate equipment to the children at the SOS Children’s Village orphanage in Seoul. He will also take part in a clinic for the baseball team at the Seoul National School for the Deaf and participate in a meet and greet with the New York Yankees Fan Club of Korea.
Granderson will then travel to Tokyo, Kyoto, Ishinomaki and Okinawa, Japan. In Ishinomaki, he will take part in a field commemoration at the Ishinomaki Municipal Baseball Stadium, which is located in the Tohoku region of Japan that was devastated by the 2011 earthquake and tsunami. The ceremony will include remarks from Granderson as well as local officials and a ceremonial first pitch. In addition, Granderson will participate in a clinic for young baseball players lead by the semi-pro team in Ishinomaki. As part of the Japan Opening Series 2012, Major League Baseball, the Major League Baseball Players Association, the U.S. Japan Council and the Japan Cultural and Community Center of Northern California made a one-million dollar donation to refurbish the facility as part of TOMODACHI, a public/private partnership led by the US and Japanese governments to rebuild Tohoku. A plaque will be placed at the field recognizing the contributions of these groups.
Granderson will also conduct a clinic for the Girls Professional Baseball League in Kyoto, which is the highest level of women’s baseball in Japan. He will also visit with young baseball players and hold clinics at Konan High School and Okinawa Shogakuin High School in Okinawa. While in Tokyo, he will participate in a panel discussion at Waseda University in Tokyo on “CSR within Professional Sports” and speak to the students at The American School in Japan. He will also attend an event at the MLB Café, the first ever Major League Baseball-themed restaurant.
“After playing in Taiwan last offseason and touring China as a part of the MLB Ambassador program a few years ago, I’m excited to have the opportunity to help grow and promote the game in Korea and Japan,” said Granderson. “I’ve seen firsthand that baseball is a global sport, and it is gratifying to take part in its development in younger generations all over the world.”
Granderson first served as an MLB International Ambassador when he traveled to England, the Netherlands and Italy in 2006. In 2007, he made a trip to South Africa and followed in 2008 with a trip to Beijing and Shanghai, China where he became the first current MLB player to tour China. Most recently, Granderson traveled to New Zealand in 2010.
In addition to the upcoming Ambassador tours, earlier this month, Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher Rick VandenHurk led a group of Major League Baseball players on a tour of his native Netherlands as well as London, England. Players joining VandenHurk included Roger Bernadina (Washington Nationals), Chris Dickerson (New York Yankees), Jeremy Guthrie (Kansas City Royals), Alex Liddi (Seattle Mariners) and Kalian Sams (Seattle Mariners). The group hosted four baseball clinics, which reached more than 700 kids, in Rotterdam, the Netherlands as well as London, England.
The Major League Baseball International Ambassador Program utilizes the popularity of current and former MLB players to bring the game to fans all over the world. Past MLB International Ambassadors have included Prince Fielder, C.J. Wilson, Cal Ripken Jr., Mike Piazza, Al Leiter and many others.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90E446UXpdg
raymagnetic,
It’s funny, both have a wonderful lyrical quality to their playing. I don’t know how anyone who loves baseball can get through Williams’ “Take Me Out” without getting a little choked up and wistful.
Yankeefem, that Bernie footage brought a tear to my eye. The best of times
Pruf, can’t. One of my favorite Yankee moments was Bernie playing it at the inaugural game, 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weoGpyvIqP8
I like the baseball Carlos too, but just don’t see the Yankees wanting him to catch for them. It will be instructive to see what we do. I really doubt we stay in house.
Watching Bernie highlights brings back really great memories.
Best Bernie story was when they worried he was concussed after a collision. They asked him: “What day is it” and Bernie said: “I never know what day it is.”
Yankeefem, Europa is a mesmerizing piece of music – great taste
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Carlos Santana the baseball player is a good young hitting catcher but he doesn’t have the pure hit tool that Montero has. He also isn’t a stalwart defender. If they waste elite prospects for him after dealing away Montero….
2. Who’s the catcher?
Cashman has been quick to point out recently that the Yankees once had a defense-first catcher named Joe Girardi and did OK, which is how Cashman segues into his plan to fill Russell Martin’s old job with in-house candidates. Or it could be GM-ese for “You’re not fleecing me for a catcher on the trade or free agent market, I’ve got options!” Either way, that’s the Yanks’ stance right now, though it seems likely they’ll bring in a veteran who can hit a little to offer competition to Francisco Cervelli, Austin Romine and Chris Stewart.
None is a proven everyday backstop, though, which is why Cashman will probably be pitched by every agent with an available catcher and by every team who might trade one. Could they convince the Indians to part with Carlos Santana in a trade?
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2Dqp8CUk8
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JAP,
No one but you has seen Montero’s “pure hit tool” put to any useful purpose, nor his catching skills. Could you wait until he has demonstrated either?
“I would predict that we will go with our internal options,” Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman said Friday. “But at the same time we will explore all the possibilities and stay engaged to see what the market has to offer, whether it’s through trades or free-agent discussions.”
…Perhaps the most intriguing trade possibility could be the Cleveland Indians’ starting catcher, Carlos Santana. Although Santana is only 26, the Indians appear to be in a rebuilding mode. Santana is exactly the type of hitter the Yankees prefer: patient (last year Santana had the second-highest walk rate in baseball) and powerful (18 home runs). Most important, Santana will make only $550,000 next year and only $18.3 million through the 2016 season.
Of course, the Indians would be looking for a sizable return on Santana, and at least one general manager surveyed did not think the Yankees had the pitching prospects to be able to make such a deal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12.....-deal.html
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I saw plenty of him in the minors. He’s demonstrated to my satisfaction that he will hit, and with purpose. But by all means, judge him based on one MLB season, if that floats your boat.
lol, that’s how Torre knew Bernie was fine.
RayMag, yes, those highlights give me goose bumps. Loved watching Bernie play.
Chad, thanks for the excellent Rule 5 Protection post.
This is what I want to see on 2013 NYS Opening Day : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IQHp3JrwBQ
I don’t know why the Steins haven’t thought of this already. I emailed Randy Levine a couple of years ago and suggested Bernie do his Hendrix thing one OD.
Please don’t take Dawg Depression out on poor Jesus Montero.
Most wouldn’t think of it, but a quality oolong goes exceedingly well with a seriously spiced pumpkin pie. Kind of like a good 3 and 4 hitter, back to back.
OK, I’ll check back when he’s a regular player somewhere, playing a position, after next year, or the year after, or ever, whatever floats your boat, if it hasn’t headed back to Venezuela with him.
DRDRDRDRDRDRDR
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That was a great game. Shades of the Titans running out of time on the goal line against the Rams.
What a game for the SEC championship – - – -
I’m always completely confused by the comments on this site. Every single time. The first is a video of bernie playing in yankee stadium, which has nothing to do with this article and is completely random. The 2nd looks like a response to someone named “raymagnetic,” even though he wasn’t the first comment. Then there’s lots of nostalgia about bernie. Then Brian Cashman comes in talking about catcher (made even more confusing by the fact that he starts his comment off with 2., as if it’s the 2nd item in a list even though it’s his first comment on this article).
Of the 19 comments that have been posted when I started writing this, not a single one is in any way related to this article. Hell, Granderson’s name isn’t even mentioned! It’s not like These comments are even tangentially related to the article.
I’m so very confused, and it happens every single time I read the comments on this site.
D.R.D.R.D.R.D.R
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Nick,
I’ll survive. After all, my alma mater won THE GAME. Did you have money on Bama and enough points?
tomingeorgia…….As i used to tell a common friend of ours, you’re pissing in the wind !!!!!
I was playing for a middle with some teasers, so I was rooting for a close game, over 37 points, and a Bama win. I mixed those bets up with Stanford last night and Boise St. today, among others. I lost on the Bama 2H -4.5, however. Should’ve hedged with Georgia 2H +4.5 for an even better middle payout, oops.
Of course this has nothing to do with the subject of Chad’s post. Kudos to Curtis Granderson for his fine work representing MLB in Asia. I still have the 2011 MLB vs. Taiwan games deep in my DVR, maybe I’ll re-watch this winter to get a little baseball fix. Of course Robinson Cano was the real star of that series, not Curtis.
Pat M.,
I know, I know.
Citizen JAP’s last word will be, “Montero………”
Mr Tom
The tool has spoken , who are you to question?
mick,
Just an ignorant rube in east nowhere, I guess. Our only tools are a pair of pliers, a roll of duct tape and a can of WD-40. Works for me.
I’m so very confused, and it happens every single time I read the comments on this site.
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I’ve seen ppl on RAB make the same comment about the comments on Lohud. I don’t mind if the members on here go off topic. Sometimes ppl have no interest talking about what’s in the article.
Coming up small, mr. tom
ppl criticize for going off topic?
maybe lohud lacks the focus tool.
Rosy-
If you’re out there. I saw your post to me from earlier in the day.
My answer is that could profit more from what we could offer you than you could from just having Jaso alone.
As you pointed out. He is not part of the M’s long term plans.
We can offer you pieces who could be.
Think about that, and get back to me.
By the way, we’ll include Cervelli so you have the extra catcher you need when Jaso departs.
edit: your team could profit . sorry.
there are all kinds of conversations going on at any time here, some started on the last thread, some probably started the day pete abraham posted his first piece.
people come here to chat about the yankees and baseball and thats what they do. expecting people to stick closely to the topic posted hints of control issues, imo.
and please feel free to ignore this post as it is off-topic. but of course, you started this off-topic conversation…
Excellent SEC champ game… Can’t expect to win too many games when you give up 350 yds on the ground… Closer than I expected but the better team certainly won.
“No one but you has seen Montero’s “pure hit tool” put to any useful purpose, nor his catching skills. Could you wait until he has demonstrated either?”
i think montero is a really good young catching prospect going into age 23 with a good base year under his belt.
montero hit fourth or fifth most of the past year with over 500 at bats. obviously someone thinks highly of him besides j.a.p.
i look at j.a.p. as a progressive thinker in general who is pretty accurate in his assessment of montero and the yankees .
@jorgearangure
Uh oh Indians fans. @dSoldevila reports Carlos Santana had to be helped off the field after appearing to injure his right knee
Looking forward to the start of WM next week.
You guys are comedy. Some of you were willing to settle for Martin on a multi year deal. LOL. You may know a lot about baseball but very little about building a team. And for whomever told me “goodbye – they will sign him to 2-3 yrs” when I said If they sign Martin I am done being a Yankee fan.. the laughs looking at you genius.
Its pretty obvious the yankees didn’t think Martin was an asset… still laughing that you guys were willing to accept that clown back. Even funnier is those shocked that he is gone acting like “what are we gonna do without Martin?????” as if the guy wasn’t replaceable. Guys seriously WTH, it’s russel martin not CC. LOL @ smart pants.
obviously someone thinks highly of him besides j.a.p.
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The entire baseball community thought highly of him. You don’t be a top 10 prospect in baseball when you apparently cannot run or defend without an elite hit tool. Montero’s ceiling is a guy who hits for average & power, he has to work to reach it, but that is his ceiling.
i look at j.a.p. as a progressive thinker in general who is pretty accurate in his assessment of montero and the yankees .
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not because he agrees with you is it?
Look at Martin the same way you will look at Cano after he’s gone.
Same scenario.
There’s a new sheriff in town…
anyone who would truly ‘stop being a yankee fan’ because they signed or didnt sign a catcher who bats at the end of the batting order is not a yankee fan.
of course you’re the troll who got tossed off here under your other name for vulgar comments about a yankees player, so we know you’re not anyway.
I know not everyone agrees with me but I say again trading is the way forward for now.
i look at j.a.p. as a progressive thinker in general who is pretty accurate in his assessment of montero and the yankees .
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I tried – I really tried to ignore this post – gosh I know I tried – please forgive me – but I just could not help it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sap2hfA-pHg
Oh – and here is your progressive thinker at work:
J. Alfred Prufrock January 13th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
pat January 13th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
JAP
If you make a habit to speak to women like that, shame on you for doing it and them for allowing it.
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Gimme a break. You are the most passive aggressive poster here. You incessantly push the party line down everyone’s throat. You are the most insidious, arrogant, cutthroat person here. You make little digs that completely disrespect anyone who is even remotely thoughtful about the Yankees if it doesn’t flatter them.
You earned that comment (and it’s not an anti-feminist remark, it’s a metaphor. I don’t give a damn what gender you are – you are consistently dishonorable in your snide slights at others).
We’re talking about a Mickey Mantle type talent here, a generational bat that people were genuinely excited about. And all you bring is your self-absorbed, narcissistic snark. Get lost.
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Bad Stoneburner – bad – bad – bad – - – - -
If we trade away prospects we will most likely get fleeced.
mtu, dan duquette said today on wfan that ‘the vibe’ he’s getting from the gm’s is that they’re all looking to improve via trades and then fill in with fa’s.
hopefully it’s going to be a fun winter meetings. i think taking a pass on martin and ichiro to this point bodes well for things in the works.
Mick-
I do not think so.
That shows little faith in our ability to self-scout, and in Cashman’s ability to asses value ?
And also misses that we have excess in certain areas
Are any or all of those premises true in your view ?
Y’s-
I’m not expecting anything but I’m hopeful, and feeling more optimistic than I have in some time.
mtu
too many hypotheticals….they are not going to spend the money on any star some prospects will bring.
martin may have left money on the table because after the winter meetings there are going to be good teams looking for catching help and he could have gotten more. i dont blame him for grabbing what was in front of him but like i said earlier about ichiro, teams arent going to lock themselves into guys like ichiro and martin covering positions that they think might be in-play at the winter meetings. then afterward the teams that didnt get what they were hoping for have to fight over the fa’s.
Mick-
What if the star is relatively young and is signed to a very reasonable contract ?
Or one that fits in with the long term plan ?
Then ? Still a no ?
mtu
thats a different story what did you have in mind?
MTU ~
Seems to me it would make sense for the M’s to keep Jaso to platoon with Montero until Zunino is ready, as he has proven useful in both talent AND affordability. Additionally, I wouldn’t discount the fact he has an entire year of experience with M’s pitching – nice not to have to start over in that particular aspect this spring.
The M’s are flush with young talent, enough so that there’s no doubt some of it will be traded away for more veteran pieces this winter. They also have some budget flexibility, now that Ichiro and some other lessor salaries (e.g., Olivo, League) are off the books … not that there seems to be much in the way of FA to spend it on – maybe they’ll at least get Felix extended
I just saw someone on ESPN suggest
Nova/Hughes + a prospect
for
Carlos Santana, Shin-Soo Choo and Asdrubal Cabrera
I like it.
Mick-
I have to confess that I do not have a specific at this moment but was talking merely in hypothetical and tactical terms.
I believe said players might exist. And if they do I think Cashman should be on them. It is Cashman’s job to identify them.
I believe we have the peices to obtain such a player.
An OF’er, or a 3B.
It would not surprise me if Cashman busts a move. And if it is someone who no one discussed, or even thought of.
They have much better resources than we do.
“jacksquat December 1st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
I just saw someone on ESPN suggest
Nova/Hughes + a prospect
for
Carlos Santana, Shin-Soo Choo and Asdrubal Cabrera
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sign the papers and send the plane…
Rosy-
I think you are overrating Jaso’s value to your team, and underestimating what we can offer you, and it’s potential value.
compass rosy-
i think you’re saying the combination of jaso and montero is not something the mariners want to break up as a bridge to zunino.
it does appear they have the catching position covered in a very deep way for years to come.
unlike the yankees.
Y’s-
We both know that isn’t realistic.
Cashman told Martin that they didn’t have the budget to sign him, but today he said that they’ll go multiple years for the right player! OOF! I guess Yankees front office doesn’t think as highly of Martin as Girardi and some LoHud bloggers.
Joe Girardi is very upset since Martin signed with the Pirates. I bet he is wondering who will carry the team now.
lebron james is CRAZY good!
Rosy-
We will backfill your bridge to Zunino with another young Catcher AND we will give you a ML ready 3B, 2B, or SS.
Both of whom are younger than Jaso.
And if that is not enough I can add a bit more.
What say you now ?
the yankees and texas both let martin go to pittsburgh for a small amount. i suspect that both teams think there is a catcher or two to be had at the winter meetings.
MTU ~
We’ll just have to agree to disagree, as they say
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randy ~
Yep.
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“Carlos Santana, Shin-Soo Choo and Asdrubal Cabrera”
You guys and your exM obsessions
Y’s-
There are gonna be a lot of things available at the WM.
Rosy-
That’s fine for the blog but I have to say that you are not being reasonable IMO (no one says you have to be).
You are being presented with an extremely attractive offer.
And you are dismissing it out-of-hand.
Fortunately, I think your GM will see things differently.
mtu, that’s what ichiro is afraid of. his people are pushing on the yankees because he knows the yankees are looking at something better they think they can get. ichiro has to realize that at this point, he doesnt rate being signed before other options are explored.
Ys Guy December 1st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
martin may have left money on the table because after the winter meetings there are going to be good teams looking for catching help and he could have gotten more. i dont blame him for grabbing what was in front of him but like i said earlier about ichiro, teams arent going to lock themselves into guys like ichiro and martin covering positions that they think might be in-play at the winter meetings. then afterward the teams that didnt get what they were hoping for have to fight over the fa’s.
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Yeah I was wondering why he signed so quickly with plenty of teams out there in need of Catchers. I guess he wasn’t liking the offers he was receiving and he did say it was a biz decision. The guy sold out and went to the Pirates for a few million more. If you ask me, he is either an idiot or greedy.. maybe both. He has too be upset with himself not taking the yanks 3 year offer last year. He passed up 3/22 mil LOL so he made 7.5 in 2012 and he’ll make 2/17mil with pirates essentialy he will make 3/24.5 counting 2012, guess 2.5 million meant a lot to the guy!! What an idiot.
Y’s-
He’s on the backburner unless he wants to come on board as an inexpensive platoon guy, or 4th OF’er. Otherwise he waits. or moves on.
I agree with Duquette by the way. Lot’s of trading possible.
It makes sense.
Y’s-
Younger, faster, and more athletic.
And that which truly upgrades the team at a cost effective price in terms of players and/or money.
AND which fills a glaring need.
compass rosy-
actually the tandem of jaso and montero performed combined at about the martin did in 2012 for a fraction of the cost. espn war and dwar add up to a wash.
the difference is the salaries.
i think martin was paid about 7 times as much as combined montero and jaso.
“We will backfill your bridge to Zunino with another young Catcher AND we will give you a ML ready 3B, 2B, or SS.”
Sorry MTU ~
The M’s already have 2 cheap catchers with another on the fast track.
Their 3B did pretty darned well in his first full big league season.
Their 2B is bound to re-bound (especially considering he was injured all of last season).
Their SS was practically the best defensive player in baseball – obviously, he’s extremely limited with the bat but, there’s young help on the way soon (Franklin).
As for JZ’s targets this winter…
most speculate OF and, possibly SP, depending on what happens with Vargas in arbitration
http://www.youtube.com/embed/l.....#038;rel=0
Thurman tribute for all of us. Granderson is big heart.
At this point, after not signing Martin, I have no idea what to expect. We could end up with Hamilton in RF, or we could end up with a Dickerson/Hairston platoon.
Rosy-
I have a ML ready 2b who can field the position and who definitely can handle the stick.
He’s way better than what you have. Cheaper, and probably has a higher cieling.
I’m not going to go point for point with you but it’s clear to me you do a lot of what us blogeters do- overvalue some of your prospects and players.
By the way, we can provide OF help and picthing. Both SP and relief.
But anyway, you think you have it pretty muh all in house.
I kinda doubt that. And I kinda think Mr. Z thinks so too.
Carry on. Enjoy.
P.S. We can get Jaso if we wish. I’m quite sure of it. And I do no think he is untouchable or would require a King’s ransom.
He’s not Johnny Bench.
Andrew McCutchen is available at a rather large cost though..
“Never say never. If someone wants to back up the truck and give us one of those organization-altering deals, it’s something that we’d have to listen to, but there are some players on our club that are extremely difficult to move. It would have to be a dramatic overpay on the part of the other club.” said, Neil Huntington (Pirates GM).
“i think martin was paid about 7 times as much as combined montero and jaso.”
randy ~
Yep. JZ is way into “cost-controlled” players. Something that was practically non-existent when he took over in Seattle. Now, he’s got a whole team’s worth (with Felix, Guti, Vargas the only players making significant $$) – hence the extra flexibility now.
mtu -
you think it’s weird jaso went from a .650 ops in his late twenties to an .850 ops in a more difficult ballpark to hit in.
imagine a guy increasing from a .650 ops like that.
see where i’m going
yup, i’m a natural born trouble maker
MTU,… I have a very nice card of Bench, mask off, racing to catch a foul circa ’73. If you ever make it up here, its yours. I also have a fantastique action card of Munson receiving from the side, same vintage – belongs in a frame that my local guests won’t understand
( Munson was every bit the match for Bench in ’76 )
For the record.
I’d like to make my position clear just in case it isn’t.
I do not believe in emptying the Farm but I do not believe the Yankees should not try to keep every promising player down there.
Decide who are keepers (small #), and be prepared to move the rest.
For example, we do not IMO need to keep 4 OF prospects (even good ones), i.e. Williams, Heathcott, Austin, and Flores.
compass rosy-
the yankees have lots of cost controlled players.
the problem is the cost is controlled at a vey high rate
Randy-
Suspicious ? Perhaps. But unless he’s caught…..
And yeah, you’re a bomb thrower but I like that.
Somebody has to do it. Otherwise we all die of boredom.
so what can Gardner and Francisco Cervelli package bring back in return…if not much, then thats what they are worth
Compass, your city could do with a little world massage, but when you have Hendrix, everything else dissipates….
Mills-
You are a Prince. Thanks.
Haven’t you heard though ? Good hitting Catchers are a luxury.
jaso wasn’t worth much when he was with the rays was he?
it takes a little imagination sometimes.
MTU ~
I’m certainly not saying that Jaso is Johnny Bench -OR- that the M’s have it all in-house. There are definitely moves to be made (I hope!) and the M’s have the players to deal – I just don’t see Jaso as one of them. IMO, due to some unique circumstance, he is more valuable to the M’s than to other org’s.
Again, we’ll just have to agree to disagree, sit back and see what the winter brings.
MTU, I’m sure your worth it; anyways my motives are purely selfish, as the pleasure is all mine ( some kind of Ayn Rand thing going on ).
compass rosy-
so are they bringing the fences in out there in seattle?
the nfl is out of it’s mind making kansas city play football tomorrow after the head coach watched one of his players kill himself at the training facility today. it seems that the battle for the first pick in the draft is just too important to stop this game no matter what.
randy:
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/.....e-mariners
jmills ~
one of the current exhibits at EMP (Experience Music Project) Museum…
http://www.empsfm.org/at-the-m.....ondon.aspx
I’m out.
Have a good rest of your evening.
See ya’ manana.
Thanks Rosy!
Disappearing to breathe it in.
thanks y’s guy
good read.
randy ~
looks like Ys Guy answered your question
Not that it will have any effect on their play on the field but, they are also going to install a new video board. The sad sack one they’ve had since the beginning has long been my been my only complaint about my “summer home” – especially since this is such a techno-savvy town.
http://www.geekwire.com/2012/p.....deo-board/
Ichiro seems to have had his feelings hurt. He is a 4th outfielder in my eyes, but a good one.
Ys Guy ~
It was my understanding that it was the Chief’s decision to play tomorrow (I agree that it’s too soon but, if that’s what they decided as an organization, more power to them) not that they were being “made” to play…
http://www.whosay.com/AdamSche.....de=IBK4GZI
austinmac December 1st, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Ichiro seems to have had his feelings hurt. He is a 4th outfielder in my eyes, but a good one.
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what’ Gardner in your eyes
Was Brian Cashman suggesting earlier that David Robertson will be traded for Carlos Santana?
i did hear that the chiefs said they are good to go tomorrow but i think there’s always the bias in the nfl to play because being ready to play the next game is what they do. but i disagree, i think the league should have told them to cancel the game. this isnt a situation where you just plug in the ‘next guy’ imo.
“you think it’s weird jaso went from a .650 ops in his late twenties to an .850 ops in a more difficult ballpark to hit in.”
Yea….weird…he must be on amphetamines!
So I saw Alabama won the honor of spanking the Irish in a month
bama should beat the irish but bowl games come 5 weeks after the end of the regular season so anything can happen imo.
Yea….bu in addition to Bama having more talent….I’ll always take Sabean after that lay off than pretty much anybody else
Bama won so DRob is pumped. Joba not so much as Big Red is getting absolutely demolished.
Probably can pull Martin off the Twitter feed as well. He is already rocking a Buc hat in his pic.
Dan Plesac ?@Plesac19
Not sure if Greinke or Josh Hamilton will sign this week at the winter meetings.Something tells me the #yankees r brewing something..2 quiet
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If Hamilton’s market is 4 years then Id hope the Yanks are in…..who knows….4 years for Hamilton is a lot better than 8 or 9 for Cano
Gardner is a low cost OF who is already on the roster
would or could be a something
Lost .. ?@LostNYY
If fans only knew how often deals were close to be struck and ended up dead they’d be very surprised. It’s not a deal until it is.
Lost .. ?@LostNYY
#Yankees Should I break it ? Nah, too much slack lately. I’ll stay hush. #pinchme
Looks like “Lost” is up to his old tricks
Hey oak what’s up man
Blake, you’re a rational being, and the next best thing to lead those Yanks.
Against, as I’ve said it Prior Mr. Richards,….Phil is an awesome drummer; check out, ” Brand X “.
Ok I’ll check it out
hello AAO…………………
You’re the same.oak from PSD right?
I’ll probably get to see him here in Okinawa as he’ll be about 10 minutes from my house. Also many Japanese baseball camps start here right after the new year.
The nice thing about trading cano,and signing hamilton is,you more than replace cano’s production but could really get a nice haul in return on top of it.
You can really reshape your team quickly.
Example,trade cano for headley,and another player,then sign hamilton,so we lose cano,but get hamilton,headley,and another player,or two.
That being just an example.
“The nice thing about trading cano,and signing hamilton is,you more than replace cano’s production but could really get a nice haul in return on top of it”
Assuming Hamilton would do a 4 or 5 year deal and assuming the Yankees could get enough for Cano then yea….it’s possible that you could quickly make the team better and more flexible long term by doing something like that…..
But it would be a really bold move and one the Yankees typically wouldn’t make….I can’t see them trading Cano really
Morning Blake.
I agree. I don’t think the Yankees want to trade Cano.
They would probably like to retain him.
Don’t know if they can afford him though.
He’s gonna be super expensive.
I do think Hamilton at YS would generate Mantle or Maris type excitment.
He’s a huge risk though and if it were me he gets only a relatively short contract with a “sobriety” clause built in.
Those conditions probably preclude getting anything done.
Morning MTU,
If private discussions indicate that Cano wants Prince Fielder money then objectively the Yanks should probably try to do what Ron suggested……if they can get Hamilton for a lesser #of years (which they should)……but that’s just not really their style….. I think they’d actually keep them both and try to go for it in 2013 if they signed Hamilton
I love watching Cano play 2b. I would hate to lose that. To me Cano and Hamilton are not a wash because of Robbie’s D.
How about this the Yankees re- sign Cano and get Hamilton on a shorter term deal. Then maybe trade Grandy, I like that a lot better.
Several reports I’ve read indicate that Hamilton will be a looking at a 4 year deal and that teams are very hesitant to go 5 or more…..if that is true then the Yankees should offer him 4/100 with an opt out after year 1.
That should be very attractive to Josh Id think because it would allow him security and the option to hit the market again next winter should he have a monster 2013…..
.also could be attractive for the Yankees because they get a premier talent for 4 years with the chance it becomes 1 year…. Also gives them some leverage against Cano
Blake-
“but that’s just not really their style”.
That’s the long and the short of it.
You have suggested that they change the way they do things in terms of extensions, etc.
I think you might be onto something there in the new environment.
But the Yankee’s FO seem to show no tendency in that direction.
Hughes is another example. If you want to keep him he should be extended if possible. Cheaper that way. If not. Trade him.
Letting him walk is just plain stupid.
“How about this the Yankees re- sign Cano and get Hamilton on a shorter term deal. Then maybe trade Grandy, I like that a lot better. ”
Obviously I like that a lot better too…. But I’m operating under the assumption that they can’t keep both Hamilton and Cano because of the budget….,they probably could ….but the rest of the team would have to be so cheap that its not really realistic…..most of the prospects would have to pan out Id think
“Hughes is another example. If you want to keep him he should be extended if possible. Cheaper that way. If not. Trade him.”
I agree….I think they should be discussing an extension now…if he has a good 2013 he’s going to cost a lot on the open market….more than they probably can or should pay
Blake
The Yankees can do it, and probably and be more profitable then if they go cheap. I know 4 years of Robbie and Josh back to back would give our friends up north quite a bit of indigestion.
A year from now hopefully the Yankees will have a better idea of what they have coming in the minors and how much payroll they will actually have free in 2014…..
if Austin and Heathcott destroy AA and look like they’ll be ready for 2014 then obviously that helps a ton because you have two roster spots costing less than 1 million dollars……
Tar,
The Yanks have about 100 million on the books for 2014 now with regards to the luxury tax…..you sign both Hamilton and Cano and you’re looking at close to 150……that leaves you around 39 million to spend on the rest of the team…..and that’s a lot of players…..not impossible but very difficult
if Austin and Heathcott destroy AA and look like they’ll be ready for 2014 then obviously that helps a ton because you have two roster spots costing less than 1 million dollars……
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You’d need the entire bullpen and rotation after CC to be controlled in house guys most likely……because arbitration guys like Gardner and DRob also cost money and by then good money…..
Blake-
I know you are not expecting that.
That’s a lot to ask of Heathcott and Austin.
Extremely unlikely. Lucky if one pans out and stays healthy.
Stone,
Why do you take examples and try to make them all inclusive statements…..clearly I didn’t mention every yankee prospect that could impact 2014…..yes Flores could as well….however it’s pretty unlikely that they’ll have an all rookie outfield in 2014…..I’ll be happy if just one of those guys is ready to contribute by then
.800 + OPS, above 30 HRs and 2Bs, .260 vs. righties and .28 vs. lefties – 120+ OPS+
any takers?
blake December 2nd, 2012 at 8:24 am
Stone,
Why do you take examples and try to make them all inclusive statements…..clearly I didn’t mention every yankee prospect that could impact 2014…..yes Flores could as well….however it’s pretty unlikely that they’ll have an all rookie outfield in 2014…..I’ll be happy if just one of those guys is ready to contribute by then
*****
That’s not the way I read it – and if that is the way you intended it – than I apologize. I just want to make sure Ramon Flores (who is younger than Mason Williams) – gets his due b/c he is not only the youngest but probably the most advanced hitter right now. But I do apologize if that was your original intent (and I do not mean that – no sarcasm at all on this one) – - – - -
and I do not mean that – no sarcasm at all on this one) – – – – -
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errrr – mean I do mean that
How reliable is the LostNYY???
” I just want to make sure Ramon Flores (who is younger than Mason Williams) – gets his due b/c he is not only the youngest but probably the most advanced hitter right now.”
How do you know this, are you a scout? Or are just waxing poetic?
SB-
I and others have mentioned Flores many times.
YF is particularly high on him.
Want a good convo on him speak with her. She has seen him live.
MTU December 2nd, 2012 at 8:30 am
SB-
I and others have mentioned Flores many times.
YF is particularly high on him.
Want a good convo on him speak with her. She has seen him live.
*****
Then I apologize on that front as well – as I have only seen Austin, Williams, and Heathcott lumped together. I also have seen Flores – in Charleston and Tampa. I really like the kid’s patience – and believe he needs more love from top prospect lists – - – -
Tar December 2nd, 2012 at 8:30 am
” I just want to make sure Ramon Flores (who is younger than Mason Williams) – gets his due b/c he is not only the youngest but probably the most advanced hitter right now.”
How do you know this, are you a scout? Or are just waxing poetic?
*****
I am no scout – but I am waxing my poetics on Flores – and think he deserves more love – - – -
Oh that – and he is a nice bb/k rate and factually he is younger than Mason Williams – not too controversial – - – - -
SB-
Re: Lost
He claims to have inside info. on the Yankees because he works(ed) for them in some minor capacity.
He has seem to povide some timely info. in the past.
Overall I’d give him no more than a “C”.
That’s just my take though. I admit I’m a bit biased.
Others probably have a different opinion.
“I am no scout – but I am waxing my poetics on Flores – and think he deserves more love – – – -”
That’s fine, but then maybe you should be more tolerable of people who do the same thing with different players.
MTU December 2nd, 2012 at 8:35 am
SB-
Re: Lost
He claims to have inside info. on the Yankees because he works(ed) for them in some minor capacity.
He has seem to povide some timely info. in the past.
Overall I’d give him no more than a “C”.
That’s just my take though. I admit I’m a bit biased.
Others probably have a different opinion.
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Thanks – I am not ashamed that I am in a very vulnerable space right now with the Winter Meetings tomorrow – so when I see someone post on twitter something potential is brewing – it gets me wondering and hoping – but thanks again for the background – sounds as if I should take it with a grain of salt or what not – - – -
SB-
When I mention top Yankee OF prospects I usually mention Williams,Heathcott, Flores, Austin, and Santana.
Santana had an excellent trajectory until he shattered his ankle.
I haven’t totally given up on him yet. He’s young and talented.
The Return of Stoneburner December 2nd, 2012 at 8:29 am
How reliable is the LostNYY???
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Was he the one that called the Tex signing ?
Tar December 2nd, 2012 at 8:36 am
“I am no scout – but I am waxing my poetics on Flores – and think he deserves more love – – – -”
That’s fine, but then maybe you should be more tolerable of people who do the same thing with different players.
*****
I know I should – I apologized in the past about my poor behavior – and I will do it again here. I have lapses sometimes now – like last night – but I am trying – - – -
Should be a great race in’13. You can have the turbo Renault and I’ll take the flat 12 Ferrari with a suspension like a, ‘ big red cadillac ” says Villeneuve.
Best young outfields of all time:
1.Cromartie, Dawson, Valentine
2.Moseby, Bell, Barfield
Against All Odds December 2nd, 2012 at 8:38 am
The Return of Stoneburner December 2nd, 2012 at 8:29 am
How reliable is the LostNYY???
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Was he the one that called the Tex signing ?
*****
Dunno – but his twitter feed made it sound like something is brewing but he/she wil not tell – - – -
SB-
You are a Man with broad shoulders because you are capable of humbling yourself when you think you are wrong.
I do the same and I respect you for it.
Stone
I appreciate the fact that you admit you we’re wrong and are trying. Have a nice day.
Cano will want at least Fielder money. Why wouldn’t he as he is more valuable?
Let me think about what Cashman will say while about to begin rappelling . . .we could do something at the meetings if it make sense considering all circumstances.
I do wish they would think ahead and not lose Cano and Granderson for draft picks. It is surprise me greatly to see either traded. They think we fans would perceive that as giving up. I would see it as being smart.
Stone, no harm done, my Jays are a comin’ over to pick your brains, Ward included.
AAO-
Yes. He called Tex.
But he also flopped (IMO) on Holliday.
Or at least I thought so.
I will say this. He has better sources than I do.
I give him credit for that and for trying and sharing what he does get.
His opinions carry more weight than my idle speculations.
MTU December 2nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
SB-
You are a Man with broad shoulders because you are capable of humbling yourself when you think you are wrong.
I do the same and I respect you for it.
*****
I should be humbled – I have been a jerk more often than not.
That being said – I feel like it is the eve before Christmas or a big holiday and I am a kid again with the Winter Meetings tomorrow. I have the over/under on how many times I will hit the refresh button on mlbtradrumors and this site at 500 this week – - – -
Tar December 2nd, 2012 at 8:42 am
Stone
I appreciate the fact that you admit you we’re wrong and are trying. Have a nice day.
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Same to you – happy shopping Yankees (and others of course) and go Knicks mid-day – - – -
jmills December 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 am
Stone, no harm done, my Jays are a comin’ over to pick your brains, Ward included.
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Duaneeee Waaaaard!!!
So what do you think of your catching situation (jealousy added for emphasis) – you think you are going to trade your surplus (anyway you could help a fellow baseball fan out and trade to the Bronx!) – - – -
SB-
I do not know if it is fully justified but I am excited too.
It’s more of a hope than an expectation.
I’m sensing a big trade or two.
Maybe I’m just being my overly optimistic self.
We’ll see. Should be fun to see what happens anyway.
MTU,
My speculations are not idle. Sometimes I walk around when I have them.
Choo and Santana for a bunch-Nova, Marshall, Williams and another.
MTU December 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 am
SB-
I do not know if it is fully justified but I am excited too.
It’s more of a hope than an expectation.
I’m sensing a big trade or two.
Maybe I’m just being my overly optimistic self.
We’ll see. Should be fun to see what happens anyway.
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Yeah – I get myself too worked up – maybe b/c there is no baseball right now and this is the closest thing. Something has to happen you would think – - – -
I don’t have a clue who ” lost” is or if they are legit or not .. He did call the Tex signing before anybody if thought it was an option a few years back though…
Take it with salt like all rumors r
Mac-
That thin Mountain air is affecting your brain.
But yeah. I like that one.
I have a wish list of my own as you know.
“But he also flopped (IMO) on Holliday.”
Nah…. He never said they were gonna sign Holliday and towards the end he even was pessimistic about it…..
Saw last night how Buster Onley thought David Price was going to be traded in the next 13 months – i live in Texas Rangers territory – this is going to start all of the speculation again -
Stone, the last Jays catcher to N.Y.- Rick Cerone, and how we all do wish that one never had to happen.
I’m in a good mood,…..you can hold Arencibia for Cano.
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Hiruyoki Nakajima might be a name the Yankees are interested in considering he can hit and play SS. All depends on the dollars though.
MTU,
I would take your wish list in a heartbeat. Just add offense that is under 35 and might be here awhile. I am tired of old one year guys as they don’t build for the future.
SB-
My overall advice.
Do not take yourself, or anyone else all that seriously.
That is what goes wrong here a lot of times IMO.
Don’t like what someone has to say ?
Use the “ignore” feature by skipping their posts.
The Return of Stoneburner says:
December 2, 2012 at 8:51 am
Saw last night how Buster Onley thought David Price was going to be traded in the next 13 months – i live in Texas Rangers territory – this is going to start all of the speculation again -
In agree with him….they can’t afford him….
Blake-
Not to be argumentative but IMO he offered many opinions that strongly indicated to me at least that Holliday would be ours.
You’re right. He never came right out and said so though.
A reasonable person could easily have drawn the conclusion that he was saying indirectly that we would get him.
I was one of those people.
But of course, maybe I’m not all that reasonable.
MTU and I flopped in 2010 by not willing the Holliday signing to reality
That’s another shame.
That the Rays will not be able to afford to resign such a fantastic young Pitcher.
I sure hope that Texas does not get their grubby antlers and claws on him.
It is not like we are insiders here. If we remember we are simply fans with our hopes,mwishes and concerns. Trust me, if my opinions were worthwhile, I would ask someone to pay for them.
A big question is whether Cashman will trade Hughes, Nova or Phelps considering the lack of pitchers for 2014. Of course, Hughes could be gone anyway. If they don’t move one or more of them, it doesn’t leave much but Grandy, Nunez and the minor leaguers.
I prefer they spend on Hamilton, trade Grandy for youth, sign one of the good utility IFs and get ready for the season.
Blake-
Did we ever. especially me.
I still regret that we didn’t get him.
Didn’t you know he can’t hit worth a lick away from Coors.
New thread —->
” Not willing the Holliday signing to reality ” – nothing like a philosophical dentist over breakast. Go get them anaerobic subgingival bacteriums!
MTU
Use the “ignore” feature by skipping their posts.
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I tried but you had so many posts there wasn’t much left to read.
MY-
I love you too Man !
“Not to be argumentative but IMO he offered many opinions that strongly indicated to me at least that Holliday would be ours.”
I remember him being very optimistic about it early then less and less so as time went by saying that Hal didn’t want to spend the money
Blake-
maybe he’ll provide us with this year’s Tex.
I’m flexible and forgiving.
Good morning everyone and especially Blake who I hope has minute to minute details from Nashville!
jmills- Best young outfield of all time? If and when the Braves trade their SS to DBacks their young OF is Upton, Upton and Heyward.
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