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Cashman explains discovery of Rodriguez’s left hip problem

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 03, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

These are Brian Cashman’s words, explianing the step-by-step details of discovering Alex Rodriguez’s left hip problem…

“In the playoffs when Joe Girardi went to Alex in the dugout (during Game 3 of the division series) – up to this point there was no complaints of any nature at all from his hip, or anything really. He wasn’t getting any treatment on anything.

“At that point Joe went to Alex in the dugout and said, ‘I’m going to pinch?hit for you and we’re going to pinch?hit Ibañez,’ and Alex said to Joe at that moment, ‘Okay.’ He said, ‘I’ve got to talk to you about something. I think my right hip needs to be looked at. I just don’t feel like I’m firing on all cylinders.’ Something to that effect. No complaint of pain or anything of that nature. So after that Oriole game, Alex went to the hospital that night to get an exam, an MRI to his right hip, which was clean.

“So he went down to Baltimore and continued the decision?making process of when to play him, not play him. But we felt comforted that he was clean on the exam on his right hip, which is what he raised to Girardi in that dugout that day. And we moved forward. As a player that was available to us and at full go.

“But we had to schedule — as we do every winter — to have him looked at in Colorado, and he did that. I don’t have the date with me here. And at that meeting with Philippon, they did re-do the MRI. The right hip was fine, but he had discovered the left hip was a problem. That despite being asymptomatic in terms of pain and things of that nature, that the left hip had indeed — what the press release has provided today — a labrum tear with some other things, and it was the recommendation that he needs to have surgery.

“So we had Alex see also Dr. Bryan Kelly in New York at HSS, Hospital For Special Surgery, to be evaluated by Kelly as well as our team doctor, Dr. Ahmad, on the left hip because it was a completely different circumstance, and that was confirmed that indeed the left hip would require surgery. So we are now in the process of him getting rehabilitation in preparation for that surgery, and he will have surgery, and it will take him out four to six months from surgery.”

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273 Responses to “Cashman explains discovery of Rodriguez’s left hip problem”

  1. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    LGY December 3rd, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Given the offensive issues this team faces and the free agent market next year signing Hamilton should be a must.

    —————-

    If he was 4 yrs younger I think they would be all over him.

  2. Chip December 3rd, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    LGY December 3rd, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Given the offensive issues this team faces and the free agent market next year signing Hamilton should be a must.
    —————

    I just don’t see how they do it without trading Cano. I don’t think they can pay both. I would be fine with that by the way. I think if you deal Cano you can get 3 guys who can play for the big club right now to fill those holes.

  3. Hassey December 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    or 4 years older

  4. LGY December 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Signing Hamilton gives them the best team in baseball and sets up for one more championship with Andy, Mo, and KURODA in the fold.

    It also provides Cano a running partner as they ease in young guys like Mason, Heathcott, Sanchez, Austin over the next few years.

  5. Chip December 3rd, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    For example, if Cashman can sign Hamilton and deal Cano for the package I mentioned (or one like it) where they get Espinosa, Rendon and Morse you have replaced Cano’s offense with Hamilton, you take a hit at 2b, but Espinosa is good, young and can hit, you get your 3b in Rendon and a power hitting corner OF in Morse as well.

  6. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    LGY December 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Signing Hamilton gives them the best team in baseball and sets up for one more championship with Andy, Mo, and KURODA in the fold.

    It also provides Cano a running partner as they ease in young guys like Mason, Heathcott, Sanchez, Austin over the next few years.

    ———————

    Very well said on both points but it comes back to the money.

  7. Chip December 3rd, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    LGY December 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Signing Hamilton gives them the best team in baseball and sets up for one more championship with Andy, Mo, and KURODA in the fold.

    It also provides Cano a running partner as they ease in young guys like Mason, Heathcott, Sanchez, Austin over the next few years.
    —————–

    You’re assuming that Mason, Heathcott, Sanchez and Austin will ever be given shots with the Yankees – recent history suggests that just ain’t so.

  8. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    No mention of a hospital stay…

  9. CountryClub December 3rd, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    cashman on sirius MLB channel:

    http://siriusxmsports.posterou.....iscusses-t

  10. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    What do you guys think ‘a labrum tear with some other things‘ is??

  11. DONNYBROOK December 3rd, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    - CHIP -
    I like your proposed Cano deal.

  12. Ys Guy December 3rd, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    “Trade Cano to the Nats in a package for Espionosa,Rendon
    —————————————————-

    you’re trading cano for a .240 hitting 2bman and a prospect who’s played all of 20 games above A ball?

  13. oak2455 December 3rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    AnthonyMcCarron Asked on The Michael Kay Show what he wants for Christmas, Jeter says, “I want this boot off that’s on my ankle.” Your move, Santa.
    4 minutes ago

  14. Triple Short of a Cycle December 3rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    you’re trading cano for a .240 hitting 2bman and a prospect who’s played all of 20 games above A ball?

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    Rendon is a top prospect. I’m not saying that is the entire deal but how much do you expect to get for Cano when he has 1 more year left on his contract. Look what the Twins got for Santana

  15. MTU December 3rd, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Shame-

    most likely the same scenario he faced with the other hip.

    Labrum tear, cyst, and an impingement.

    To put it in simple terms.

    A-Rod has bad hips.

  16. Chip December 3rd, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Ys Guy December 3rd, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    “Trade Cano to the Nats in a package for Espionosa,Rendon
    —————————————————-

    you’re trading cano for a .240 hitting 2bman and a prospect who’s played all of 20 games above A ball?
    —————

    Espinosa’s young and showed good power – the average could improve. Rendon is difficult to project but if he’s healthy he would move very quickly through the system. Well through most systems, the Yankees don’t do anything quickly.

  17. Chip December 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Triple Short of a Cycle December 3rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    you’re trading cano for a .240 hitting 2bman and a prospect who’s played all of 20 games above A ball?

    ———————————————–

    Rendon is a top prospect. I’m not saying that is the entire deal but how much do you expect to get for Cano when he has 1 more year left on his contract. Look what the Twins got for Santana
    ==============

    Exactly – you’re not going to get a tremendous can’t miss haul for a guy a year away from wanting 200 mil

  18. DONNYBROOK December 3rd, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Chip’s trade also included signing Hamilton.

  19. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Rangers trying to keep Andrus & Profar:

    The Rangers could move Ian Kinsler to first base.
    The shift would allow top infield prospect Jurickson Profar to start at second base and Elvis Andrus to remain at shortstop. Kinsler said last month that he’s open to manning any position the Rangers want him to pla

  20. DONNYBROOK December 3rd, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Just wondering how many MLB players have torn the Labrum in both hips, and were those players able to return and achieve their previous level of play?

  21. LGY December 3rd, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    This team needs Hamilton AND Cano

  22. ac1 December 3rd, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    4/40 for angel pagan?
    yeah this market is out of control.

  23. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    LGY December 3rd, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    This team needs Hamilton AND Cano

    ———————-

    It does and many of us would love to see it but there is only room for one. There might not even be room for Cano.

  24. ac1 December 3rd, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    It also provides Cano a running partner as they ease in young guys like Mason, Heathcott, Sanchez, Austin over the next few years.
    ___

    Also assuming Cano is resigned?

  25. DONNYBROOK December 3rd, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Hamilton and Cano will lead to a team payroll in excess of $189 Mill. Not gonna happen. I take Hamilton over CaNO Dive.

  26. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    4/40 for angel pagan?
    yeah this market is out of control.

    Thats pretty good for a swell hitting CFer???? Much less than BJ Upton and for less years. He is an older player of course, but he has had some good seasons recently.

  27. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Oy vey.. thanks MTU.

  28. Ys Guy December 3rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    id have to take a run at cano with a 4 yr/ $110M extension offer ($10M up front) before i’d look to trade him.

  29. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Just heard an interview with Cash, he was asked straight out “From a financial standpoint, can the Yankees sign Hamilton without trading Granderson?” and Cashman didn’t say no. He said something like “The guys that handle the finance side of the team are very creative so we have a lot of options open to us.”

    Now I don’t think the Yanks will sign Hamilton because it would leave only like 50-60 million for 19 players in 2014 but I think they COULD do it if they wanted to.

    Does anyone know if Asdrubal Cabrera has the arm to play 3B? Trade for him and Choo + sign Hairston?

    What about moving Jeter to third and starting Nunez at short?

  30. CountryClub December 3rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Hamilton and Cano will lead to a team payroll in excess of $189 Mill. Not gonna happen. I take Hamilton over CaNO Dive.

    —————

    Right, but at least they’d have both for 2013.

  31. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    I don’t think the Yankees can afford to put him on the roster for 27.5 AAV with 2014 in mind.

  32. Chip December 3rd, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    LGY December 3rd, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    This team needs Hamilton AND Cano
    —————-

    They also need a healthy Alex, Jeter and Pineda…I would say both are equally as unlikely.

  33. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    He said something like “The guys that handle the finance side of the team are very creative so we have a lot of options open to us.”

    I really want to sit down with Cash and grill him on this luxury tax stuff, because the CBA leaves very little room for creative interpretation, so essentially there is no creativity that can save them. What is he even talking about here? Unless by creative he means ‘We get rid of like 3 other players instead of Granderson’.

  34. CountryClub December 3rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN
    Asked if there was any chance Derek Jeter would move to 3B, Cashman said, “No. I’m glad you asked that so we can get that out of the way.”

  35. Chip December 3rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Just heard an interview with Cash, he was asked straight out “From a financial standpoint, can the Yankees sign Hamilton without trading Granderson?” and Cashman didn’t say no. He said something like “The guys that handle the finance side of the team are very creative so we have a lot of options open to us.”

    Now I don’t think the Yanks will sign Hamilton because it would leave only like 50-60 million for 19 players in 2014 but I think they COULD do it if they wanted to.

    Does anyone know if Asdrubal Cabrera has the arm to play 3B? Trade for him and Choo + sign Hairston?

    What about moving Jeter to third and starting Nunez at short?
    ——————–

    Yes the Yankees could sign Hamilton without trading Cano or Granderson this winter – it would just mean letting both of them walk as free agents next season. Frankly I think the Yankees could really set themselves up for the future by signing Hamilton and dealing both Cano and Granderson this winter.

  36. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    “Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN
    Asked if there was any chance Derek Jeter would move to 3B, Cashman said, “No. I’m glad you asked that so we can get that out of the way.” ”

    Well that answers that. Wouldn’t now be the perfect time to move Jeter to third? Assuming he can field there better than at short.

    “I really want to sit down with Cash and grill him on this luxury tax stuff, because the CBA leaves very little room for creative interpretation, so essentially there is no creativity that can save them. What is he even talking about here? Unless by creative he means ‘We get rid of like 3 other players instead of Granderson’.”

    Yeah I have no clue, he is probably just saying that so people think the Yankees might be in play? I honestly don’t think they will sign any player to more than a 1 year deal. The only area I think they could make a splash is in the trade market.

  37. Ys Guy December 3rd, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    cano could turn out to be the breaking point between getting under the LT and competing for a championship every year.

    they can take a pass on hamilton & co., push mo and andy out the door if they have to but if they have to let cano walk in order to get under, they’ll have to think long and hard before they let that happen. the fans will be in revolt if they dont sign anyone this offseason and let cano walk after next (unless they win the WS in 2013.

  38. MTU December 3rd, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Get Keppinger and Chavez.

    Give Adams a shot to prove himself in ST.

    Nunez covers short, or you trade him.

    Stash Adams and or Nix in the Minors if you need too.

    Plenty of options to cover various infield contingencies relatively cheaply and well.

    If you can get Gordon or Headley so much the better.

    :)

  39. Ys Guy December 3rd, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    derek jeter’s not moving anywhere and they will give him whatever he wants next season regardless of the LT. bank that.

    whatever else has to be done will be done but the capn stays until he says he’s done.

  40. Chip December 3rd, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    As for playing Jeter at 3b – his throwing style doesn’t really fit there.

  41. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Frankly I think the Yankees could really set themselves up for the future by signing Hamilton and dealing both Cano and Granderson this winter.

    I’m not sure about this. If they get Hamilton but trade Cano and Granderson I don’t think the Yankees will make the playoffs in 2013. However, trading Cano and Granderson now might set them up better for the future.

    I think the strategy right now is to bring back mostly the same team that won 95 games last year and sign a bunch of 1 year deals to maximize their chances at a world series in 2013. 2014 is basically going to be a lost year, then 2015 they would have a swell of money to spend and hopefully some prospects hitting the major leagues. Obviously all speculation but I think we’ll be fine 2013 … 2014 will be rough though.

  42. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    As for playing Jeter at 3b – his throwing style doesn’t really fit there.

    Nah, he has a gun. He definitely has the arm to handle 3B, no matter how bad his fielding at SS gets he always shows off a really strong throwing arm. The problem with moving to 3B is having really fast reaction times which I’m not sure Jeter has.

  43. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Great to see some folks jumping on my HAMILTON wagon

  44. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    “Does anyone know if Asdrubal Cabrera has the arm to play 3B? Trade for him and Choo + sign Hairston?”

    If you have the arm to play SS you have the arm to play 3B

  45. The Return of Stoneburner December 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    If you have the arm to play SS you have the arm to play 3B

    ****

    Gosh – now this makes we want to watch Dodgeball – if you can dodge a wrench – - – -

  46. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Sign Hamilton ….trade Granderson or Gardner for the best 3B/SS prospect you can

  47. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    The hole in deep short is the toughest throw in the infield

  48. kd December 3rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    just go crazy: trade the farm for pujols and put him at third

    in all seriousness, gotta see what adams and museteller can do. hard to see them overpaying when there’s 5 years of arod left

  49. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    I heard the Sox were pursuing Asdrubal Cabrera hard… and by ‘heard’ I mean I saw it on Twitter.

  50. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    If you have the arm to play SS you have the arm to play 3B

    Well the problem is that he can’t really play SS. Was wondering if it was more of a range problem or something else.

  51. Ys Guy December 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    the arod injury leaves them no choice but to aquire someone who can play third. adams would have had a better shot at third if they could pencil arod in for half the games there, but now you just cant do that. that pretty much puts chavez out, too b/c he’s not availalbe on too many days.

    they need a real major league third baseman now.

  52. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Great to see some folks jumping on my HAMILTON wagon

    ======================

    Some of us have been there since the middle of the season :)

  53. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    “Well the problem is that he can’t really play SS. Was wondering if it was more of a range problem or something else.”

    What are you taking about?

  54. Chip December 3rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Classic Cashman: asked about why this is just coming up now, he said “no one asked me a specific question about his hip.” Rather, he said, he was asked if A-Rod would be used as a DH, or if he was going to start or what. Because, yes, I’m sure Cashman would have loved to have volunteered that information if only someone had given him a chance.

    Asked about replacements, Cashman was vague (of course) but he said that the Yankees are not committed to either a part-time player or a full-time player. He said they’d “run everything up the flag pole” to see what works. Which seems pretty sensible.

  55. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    I didn’t see the Napoli deal..

  56. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    I didn’t see the Napoli deal..

    ———————–

    You missed a lot Shame. lol

  57. chicken little December 3rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Hoping that silence regarding Hamilton (or allusions to “creativity”) actually mean something as opposed to simple posturing. That said, also hoping no one puts Hank in charge of negotiations.

  58. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @teixeiramark25: What happened the last time ARod had hip surgery and started the season on the DL? Oh yeah, he dominated and we won http://t.co/Dz7qaRZB

    Well that’s back when you could hit Mark

  59. mick December 3rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    let chavez and youk platoon at 3rd.
    this could take a while, if there is no market for either they will fall in our lap.

  60. Ys Guy December 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    chavez, youkilis, arod, scott rolen, casey mcgehee and troy glaus together should just about cover third for a season…

  61. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    So 3/$39?

    Would they ever trade us Saltalawhateverhisnameis?? They have a surplus no? They’ll probably move Salty for Upton or something insane.

  62. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    What are you taking about?

    Cabrera is a bad fielding SS according to the statistics. I was wondering if anyone remembers whether or not he has a strong arm that could play at third. Yes he plays SS (badly) so you would think his arm could handle third but that’s not always the case.

  63. The Return of Stoneburner December 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    probably move Salty for Upton

    ****

    Not unless Salty plays SS – - – -

  64. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    “Cabrera is a bad fielding SS according to the statistics”

    You ever watched him? He’s average at worst….defensive metrics aren’t accurate

  65. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    You ever watched him? He’s average at worst….defensive metrics aren’t accurate

    Yes I’ve watched him, I’ve watched almost every Yankee game for the last like 10 years or something. I just don’t really remember his defensive ability. For SS I trust UZR, especially when it shows him being significantly negative for the last 4 years.

  66. UnKnown December 3rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    It’s great to see folks jumping on my HAMILTON wagon!

    xxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Just wait until the Yankees actually sign him, nobody will admit to not wanting the guy.

    Always have and still really hope that it happens.

  67. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    ?@MLBNetworkPR

    GM Ned Colletti on if the luxury tax would prevent @Dodgers from signing a player: “The luxury tax is part of the cost of doing business.”

  68. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    GM Ned Colletti on if the luxury tax would prevent @Dodgers from signing a player: “The luxury tax is part of the cost of doing business.”

    A novel concept

  69. austinmac December 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    If this surgery and condition is worse than his other hip, they really do need to be realistic and know he may be done with third or done. He will have had surgery on both hips and his knee recently. His prognosis is not good for health.

    The “other stuff” is very likely arthritic conditions. They will shave the bones to reduce the impingement that occurs when the leg is raised.

  70. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    If anyone cares Cabrera has never ranked on the fielding bible awards for SS’s and the most points he ever received from votes is 10.

  71. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    ?@MLBNetworkPR

    GM Ned Colletti on if the luxury tax would prevent @Dodgers from signing a player: “The luxury tax is part of the cost of doing business.”

    —————-

    Omg, how many times am I going to have to say ‘f*ck the Dodgers’ this decade?!

  72. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    ?@MLBNetworkPR

    GM Ned Colletti on if the luxury tax would prevent @Dodgers from signing a player: “The luxury tax is part of the cost of doing business.”

    —————-

    Omg, how many times am I going to have to say ‘f*ck the Dodgers’ this decade?!

    ———————–

    It’s still early in the decade so you better rest up and save that energy

  73. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Omg, how many times am I going to have to say ‘f*ck the Dodgers’ this decade?!

    Not nearly as many times as non-Yankee fans have said ‘f*ck the Yankees’ last decade!

  74. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    The problem with the hip is batting is likely more difficult than fielding.. the exact opposite of the problem we were prepared to deal with (putting Arod at DH).

  75. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Jerkface says:
    December 3, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    If anyone cares Cabrera has never ranked on the fielding bible awards for SS’s and the most points he ever received from votes is 10.

    Do you honestly think Asdrubal is a bad defensive SS?

  76. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Hamilton would push 50 homers at YS

  77. austinmac December 3rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    The Sox have signed Ross and Napoli. They are after Cabrera.

    The Yankees are chasing shadows trying to find someone who will play for them for less than market value.

    The Dodgers luxury tax view is the same as George’s. Our team will make more than enough money to cover it. Meanwhile Hal is wondering what horse he can buy with AROD’s insurance money.

  78. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Omg, how many times am I going to have to say ‘f*ck the Dodgers’ this decade?!

    Not nearly as many times as non-Yankee fans have said ‘f*ck the Yankees’ last decade!

    ————

    Well yeah of course not, but I don’t care about that giant population of people! /Romney’d

  79. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Do you honestly think Asdrubal is a bad defensive SS?

    He is below average by every metric & by the fielding bible. I can’t even recall anything which he does well. The thing that was intriguing about him is his bat. He isn’t very fast, seems to not have any range.

  80. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Cabrera has consistently negative fielding statistics. You can’t necessarily trust UZR for a single year but over a 4+ year period it shows him as being bad. And it’s not like SS is a weird position like 1B or catcher where UZR is useless.

  81. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Lost .. ?@LostNYY

    Any #Yankees major moves must be approved by Hal first. Hearing Hal is slightly more openminded, but would have to be very enticing.
    Expand

    ————————–

    Sounds about right he had to talked into Tex and Sori and Alex

  82. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Well yeah of course not, but I don’t care about that giant population of people! /Romney’d

    —-

    hahaha nice :)

  83. coney1 December 3rd, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Been watching MLB Network at various points throughout the day. Chris Rose, Kevin Millar, and John Hart have all said you look for a stopgap player to play 3B if you are the Yankees. The reason being is you are getting A-Rod back around June/July. Are you kidding me??? He is 38 years old with major hip surgeries on both hips. This isn’t a 29-year old A-Rod coming back from a groin pull. There is a good chance he may be Mike Lowell- a year away from forced retirement. Hips affect both your hitting and fielding. If you have a chance to acquire a permanent, full-time third baseman, you DO IT!

  84. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Hamilton would push 50 homers at YS

    —————————————-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPCd5K9iNYw

    *nods head*

  85. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    “He is below average by every metric & by the fielding bible. I can’t even recall anything which he does well”

    Looks pretty good to me…..not elite but solid

  86. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal

    Free-agent reliever Joakim Soria close to signing two-year deal with #Rangers, sources tell me and @jonmorosi.

    Another piece coming off the board

  87. coney1 December 3rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Ken Rosenthal?@Ken_Rosenthal

    Free-agent reliever Joakim Soria close to signing two-year deal with #Rangers, sources tell me and @jonmorosi

    So much for Soria

  88. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Looks pretty good to me…..not elite but solid

    Well anything can look good compared to Derek Jeter, have to keep that in mind.

  89. Giuseppe Franco December 3rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    The latest A-Rod setback is not exactly shocking but in a perfect world it would have been nice if this had been discovered in Oct instead of Dec.

    I haven’t read through today’s earlier threads and comments regarding the surgery so this question may have already been answered…..but why is the surgery being delayed until Jan? Is it because of the pre-surgery rehab as Chad described in this thread?

    Although I have been just as disappointed with the direction management/ownership has taken this team the last couple of seasons (especially Cashman and his bad decisions) as anyone else, I’ve always been resigned to the inevitable fact that the Yanks are destined to have a significant competitive downswing at some point which will prohibit them from enjoying October baseball for a sustained period of time.

    It is something that happens to every organization and in every sport but I’ve always believed that too many Yankee fans have taken this team for granted throughout the near two decades of perennial postseason appearances (and WS contending) while dismissing how spoiled rotten we’ve been compared to every other MLB franchise since 1995.

    I also firmly believe that such a downward swing would have inevitably happened whether The Boss was still alive and calling the shots or not. Many fans claim how different the current state of the organization would be had that been the case but at the same time ignore that George was vintage Boss in the 80s following the success of the late 70s and the organization still could not avoid the inevitable playoff drought for over a decade.

    It just appears to me that the personnel decisions that have been made the last couple of years and overall direction of the organization preparing for the $189M luxury cap in 2014 while fielding a perennial championship contender may prove to be an obstacle the front office will be unable to overcome.

    I’m not proclaiming 2013 will be the beginning of the end of Yankee October baseball but it seems like the stars are beginning to [mis]align in the Yankee Universe. I also think Cashman is starting to come to that same conclusion and will leave the Yanks at the end of his current contract….perhaps sooner.

  90. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Hamilton would push 50 homers at YS

    —————–

    Remember during the HR derby when he almost got one completely out of the park? I’m pretty sure he hit the white facade.

    Hamilton is really, really good.

    I don’t care if he smokes crack on the weekends as long as he stays really, really good.

  91. Giuseppe Franco December 3rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    I would have really like to have Soria. Oh well.

  92. austinmac December 3rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    For anyone needing a Cashman translating guide, when he says “We will not do it if it isn’t practical” means they will not add anyone if they are not cheap. No kidding, Brian. But, if someone will give us a good player and pay all of their salary after 2014, they might just jump on it. There’s that.

  93. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Free-agent reliever Joakim Soria close to signing two-year deal with #Rangers, sources tell me and @jonmorosi.

    Have we signed Ibanez yet?

  94. UnKnown December 3rd, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    “Hamilton would push 50 homers at YS”

    It sure would be a lot of fun! I think the great fans of the Yankees deserve to see it.

  95. NYY_Girl_Penny December 3rd, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    SS .316 2B .313 1B .250 CF .230 RF ? LF ? 3B ? C ? DH ? How can #Yankees expect to compete with only stop gaps?

    Mark Teixeira ?@teixeiramark25
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    Lost .. ?@LostNYY
    @teixeiramark25 Have you seen your 2009 stat line compared to the last 3 years? How about Arods? Not to mention Matsui, Damon, Posada. #Huh

  96. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Ken Rosenthal?@Ken_Rosenthal

    Free-agent reliever Joakim Soria close to signing two-year deal with #Rangers, sources tell me and @jonmorosi

    —————–

    f**k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  97. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Lost .. ?@LostNYY

    Any #Yankees major moves must be approved by Hal first. Hearing Hal is slightly more openminded, but would have to be very enticing.
    Expand

    ————————–

    Sounds about right he had to talked into Tex and Sori and Alex

    —————–

    Is this really insight though? I know we can only trust Lost so much lol.. but Hal is the boss. You’d sort of expect that everything has to be run by him.. except for when we pretend it doesn’t (Soriano, Arod).

  98. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Ken Rosenthal?@Ken_Rosenthal

    Free-agent reliever Joakim Soria close to signing two-year deal with #Rangers, sources tell me and @jonmorosi

    —————–

    f**k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ————

    Relax.

    It’s not the Dodgers.

    We need to save all our f*cks for the Dodgers.

  99. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    BTW, I can’t wait until some genius at LoHud decides to censor posts with the words: f*ck, sh*t, and b*stard.

    Like a drunk with a beer at 1pm, the * symbol is the brown bag of LoHud censorship.

  100. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    I think Lost is trying to get blocked by ALL the Yankee associates.

  101. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    @DKnobler

    Rangers finalizing a deal with Soria. Thought to be 2 years, $8-9 million.

  102. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Lost .. ?@LostNYY

    Any #Yankees major moves must be approved by Hal first. Hearing Hal is slightly more openminded, but would have to be very enticing.
    Expand

    ————————–

    Sounds about right he had to talked into Tex and Sori and Alex

    —————–

    Is this really insight though? I know we can only trust Lost so much lol.. but Hal is the boss. You’d sort of expect that everything has to be run by him.. except for when we pretend it doesn’t (Soriano, Arod).

    ——————

    I think Hal is viewed as a guy that doesn’t budge and is very rigid especially since 189 has been beaten into our heads for the past few seasons. Saying he has an open mind is saying he’s not as narrow minded as ppl think.

  103. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Hamilton hit 43 last year and was going through Copenhagen withdrawals for like a month of the year

  104. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Ken Rosenthal?@Ken_Rosenthal

    Free-agent reliever Joakim Soria close to signing two-year deal with #Rangers, sources tell me and @jonmorosi

    —————–

    f**k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ————

    Relax.

    It’s not the Dodgers.

    We need to save all our f*cks for the Dodgers.

    ———

    *kneels*

    Forgive me Darth Queen of Team Greedy. :D

  105. NYY_Girl_Penny December 3rd, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Patrick,

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    def main():
    print “Yankees are sinking!”

    if __name__ == ‘__main__’:
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  106. kd December 3rd, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    josh hamilton’s time in texas was one of protection. his clubhouse, manager, and team management protected him from media and other ‘distractions’

    the yankees cannot provide that kind of an environment. there’s a huge media presence compared to texas and now he’ll be asked to essentially replace arod’s ‘in-prime’ bat. his first slump he’ll be asked if he slipped up. it’s too much for a guy like him. pass. let some other team pay for his declining years

  107. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Potentially good deal for Soria

  108. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Hamilton would hit a lot of bombs here but I think fans would get frustrated with his strikeouts and cold streaks. Still, I’d love to have him… at the right price of course

  109. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    @jonmorosi: #Tigers have offered two-year contract to Scott Hairston, source says.

    He’s out then

  110. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    So Yankees lose A-rod and miss out on Soria on the same day.

  111. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Forgive me Darth Queen of Team Greedy. :D

    —————–

    Oh I like this!! I have a friend that will only call me JacQueen.

    Double d*mmit on Hariston… we’re being outbid for our plan C’s.

  112. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    I love it, the Yankees have literally no where to fall back to. If another team offers more than 1 year or more than 4 million dollars they are out on anyone.

  113. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Penny,

    lol

    public static boolean yankeePlayoffPredictor(double payroll) {
    if (payroll >= 189)
    return true;
    else
    return false;
    }

  114. BoJo December 3rd, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Great to see some folks jumping on my HAMILTON wagon

    You had me at Josh…

    Actually, i have been pushing for him since before his big break out year. I think he is one of the best players I have ever seen.

  115. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Life Id tough when you basically only offer 1 year

  116. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    aww spacing doesn’t work right in this blog

  117. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Forgive me Darth Queen of Team Greedy. :D

    —————–

    Oh I like this!! I have a friend that will only call me JacQueen.

    Double d*mmit on Hariston… we’re being outbid for our plan C’s.

    —————-

    JacQueen nice name :)

    We can’t even sign back ups lol :D

  118. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Cody Ross ain’t takin a one year deal…..they can’t even get a decent platoon in RF for one year probably

  119. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    10 Print “Yankees are butts”
    20 Goto 10

    am i doing this right

  120. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: mets asked red sox for top OF jackie bradley jr and top SS xander boegarts for dickey, according to @AdamRubinESPN

  121. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    ?@JonHeymanCBS

    mets asked red sox for top OF jackie bradley jr and top SS xander boegarts for dickey, according to @AdamRubinESPN

    —————

    Lol, I love that the Mets won’t give Dickey a good deal but expect to get a good return on him… (I’m just assuming those are good Red Sox prospects because they’re in the Red Sox system and therefore must be good).

  122. coney1 December 3rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    Soria is a guy that could have been a good candidate to replace Mariano next year. $4-5MM for your closer in 2014 is a steal. Unless they didn’t want to take a chance with a two-time TJ surgery player, then passing on him was extremely stupid.

  123. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    @Buster_ESPN

    There continues to be a lot of interest in the Astros’ Jed Lowrie … but Houston is hanging onto him, as of now.

  124. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    am i doing this right

    Yes, this is the most right

  125. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Pretty soon you guys are gonna start talking in 1′s and 0′s and I don’t think I can get Google to translate that…

  126. RadioKev December 3rd, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    Soria sucked for a season before surgery. We’ll see what happens with his return. It’s a little too expensive for my taste.

  127. BoJo December 3rd, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    2 time TJ surgeries are a real cr*p sh**t. I can l*ve with y*nke*s pass*ng on that one.

  128. oak2455 December 3rd, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    4:20pm: Hairston “will not be a Tiger,” tweets Rubin.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#eA71jKgcAeTdXUs0.99
    __________________

  129. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Pretty soon you guys are gonna start talking in 1?s and 0?s and I don’t think I can get Google to translate that…

    01011001 01100001 01101110 01101011 01100101 01100101 01110011 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100010 01110101 01110100 01110100 01110011

    Here you go: http://www.binaryhexconverter......-converter

  130. oak2455 December 3rd, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    WONDER WHY???? Yanks??

  131. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    @SamBorden

    Greetings from the Shirley Povich press box which is on the Sammy Baugh level at FedEx Field. And I’m Sam Borden. Back to you.

    —————

    Lol, what the hell is going on with Sam? Was he stuck on Rihanna’s 777 plane?? ALL the writers are losing their minds without the Yankees being the Yankees.

  132. 4 NYY December 3rd, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    Looks pretty good to me…..not elite but solid

    Well anything can look good compared to Derek Jeter, have to keep that in mind.

    ——————————–

    Has there ever been a thread of Lohud that you didn’t knock Jeter on ?

    Just terrible that guy, what a loser !

    Rattlin’ your Sabres again ? What a waste of time & printed numbers !

  133. Ys Guy December 3rd, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    scott hairston? this is someone the yankees ‘can’t be outbid on?”

  134. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    It takes a lot of work to tell me the Yankees are butts. Whenever I look at binary coding I find myself waiting to see a dolphin jump over a wave or something (I never saw it when we were kids. Sad for little Shame.).

  135. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    @GordonEdes: Red Sox have not asked about Dodgers SS Dee Gordon. No Stephen King sequel to “The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon”

    They already have one noodle bat SS

  136. The Return of Stoneburner December 3rd, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Has there ever been a thread of Lohud that you didn’t knock Jeter on ?

    *****

    Great – now I have to go back through every thread – it was much easier looking for Mantle/Montero comparisons – - – -

    Request received – - – -

  137. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    It takes a lot of work to tell me the Yankees are butts. Whenever I look at binary coding I find myself waiting to see a dolphin jump over a wave or something (I never saw it when we were kids. Sad for little Shame.).

    It’s just like reading the matrix. I don’t see 1′s and 0′s.. All I see now is blonde, brunette, redhead

  138. BoJo December 3rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Pretty soon you guys are gonna start talking in 1?s and 0?s and I don’t think I can get Google to translate that…

    01011001 01100001 01101110 01101011 01100101 01100101 01110011 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100010 01110101 01110100 01110100 01110011

    Here you go: http://www.binaryhexconverter……-converter
    ===============
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    011000010111010000101101001011010110111001101111
    011101110010000001110111011001010010000001101000
    011000010111011001100101001000000111010001101111
    001000000111010001111001011100000110010100100000
    011010010110111000100000011001100111010101100011
    011010110110100101101110011001110010000001100010
    011010010110111001100001011100100111100100100000
    011000110110111101100100011001010011111100100000
    010100110100110101001000

  139. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    I dont want a hairston platooned in RF unless HAMILTON is in LF and Granderson has been traded for a 3B/SS prospect

  140. Patrick December 3rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Great – now I have to go back through every thread – it was much easier looking for Mantle/Montero comparisons

    nonono Trout is Mantle. Montero is Frank Thomas

  141. Duh Innings II December 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    CountryClub December 3rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN
    Asked if there was any chance Derek Jeter would move to 3B, Cashman said, “No. I’m glad you asked that so we can get that out of the way.”

    ———

    Yeah, HEAVEN FORBID a guy on the wayyy wrong side of 30 moves to a position less taxing than the one he’s subpar at now after coming back from major surgery.

    Just tell Jeter he’s moving to 3B if you get a younger, better defensive shortstop, that’s that, and if he doesn’t like it, he can be traded or sign elsewhere after 2013. This fear of Jeter and hurting his ego/pride is ridiculous. A-Rod moved to 3B so he could stay at SS, why can’t he pay it forward especially considering we’d have an automatic upgrade at 3B at least offenisively and could have one defensively if the Yanks got a gloveman at SS.

    Heaven forbid the team is better with Jeter at 3B and a better glove than him at SS.

  142. 4 NYY December 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    The Return of Stoneburner December 3rd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
    Has there ever been a thread of Lohud that you didn’t knock Jeter on ?

    *****

    Great – now I have to go back through every thread – it was much easier looking for Mantle/Montero comparisons – – – -

    Request received – – – -

    =======================

    Pretty much true though, huh ?

  143. The Return of Stoneburner December 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    nonono Trout is Mantle. Montero is Frank Thomas

    *****

    I just do not see Montero playing football at Auburn – - – -

  144. blake December 3rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Ned Colleti was asked about Soriano and he didn’t say no….actually reacted like they might just do it

  145. Spudz December 3rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm

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  146. kd December 3rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    if all goes the way it’s looking, the yankees won’t have the highest payroll in the game next year.

  147. The Return of Stoneburner December 3rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Pretty much true though, huh ?

    *****

    I guess – I try my best to ignore the Jeter complaints – - – -

  148. 4 NYY December 3rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    he Return of Stoneburner December 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    nonono Trout is Mantle. Montero is Frank Thomas

    *****

    I just do not see Montero playing football at Auburn – – – -

    =========================

    Al Bundy scored ? touchdowns at Polk High !

  149. LathamJoe December 3rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Entertaining any thought of trading Cano – even for 3 players – is a huge mistake!. With Cashman’s “lack of savy” for spotting and cultivating young talent, coupled with the indifferent Steinbrothers lack of baseball knowledge, the trade would be a total disaster. Any other GM with Cashman’s past record of failures would have been fired long ago! Long term, expensive contracts have hamstrung the NY Yankees’ payroll so that signing decent FA replacements for the aging, injury prone veterans that are no falling by the wayside is now impossible. Not that moving away from the habit of signing these expensive FA’s wouldn’t be a bad idea – IF there was a vibrant MIlB system to fall back on. The NYY Farm system under Cashman’s direction is horrible. Just look to the “Killer Bee’s” – Cashman’s “vision of the future”….. Heathcott is a decent prospect with some upside but is far too early in his career to guage his future. After him? Little else. Cano is one of the few superstars with remaining upside that this team still retains on its roster. I’m praying that the Steinbrenners find an interested buyer for this Yankee Team.

  150. 4 NYY December 3rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    In ONE game, no less !!!

  151. austinmac December 3rd, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    We need to stop complaining about for the which the amount players are signing. They are getting market value. The Yankees are unwilling to meet market value it appears. It is a bad time not to have so many openings. Prices have risen.

  152. Jerkface December 3rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    Jeter is not a cult leader, one can appreciate his positives while acknowledging his faults. If you go back through history you’ll see my repeated mentions of him being robbed for MVP & of his offensive prowess and key role in the Yankee dynasties.

    I think the people who cannot understand Jeter’s deficiencies have the problems :twisted:

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