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It’s that time of year

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 04, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Doesn’t this happen every year around this time? Every free agent or trade possibility that roughly fits the Yankees needs gets connected to the team at one point or another. A big part of that seems to be Brian Cashman’s approach to the offseason — he checks on just about everyone just to keep himself aware of who’s out there, so it’s very possible to hear that the Yankees talked about a certain player without them necessarily wanting that player.

In the wake of yesterday’s Alex Rodriguez news, new Marlins infielder Yunel Escobar.

Both Jayson Stark and Jon Heyman reported that the Yankees have checked on Escobar. Buster Olney says they’re not seriously in the mix.

The connection is easy to understand: The Yankees need a starting infielder who can also slide into a utility role. Escobar is an everyday shortstop who has experience at second and third. And he has affordable club options for 2014 and 2015.

Of course, he also has a pretty sour reputation, and the Marlins certainly recognize that the Yankees badly need an infielder.

Another name that’s been connected to the Yankees quite often is Scott Hairston, but ESPN New York’s Adam Rubin has spoken to Hairston, who says it’s “probable” that he’ll end up back with the Mets.

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92 Responses to “It’s that time of year”

  1. CountryClub December 4th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi
    Keep an eye on Mike Olt at the winter meetings. One rival club official believes #Rangers are willing to trade him.

  2. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    austinmac December 4th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Isn’t Rolen retiring for health reasons
    ————————-

    Sort of. He’s a free agent and because of his health not likely to get enough of an offer for him to stick around anymore.

  3. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Granderson to the Rangers for Olt and Murphy – I would even take back Mike Young’s last year if that made it work for the Rangers.

  4. Mike in Harrisburg December 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    @Chip that’s a solid deal. Like it

  5. AAA December 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Granderson to the Rangers for Olt and Murphy

    ==========================

    Can’t imagine anyway you’d get both.

    Granderson for Olt? Possible, but Yankees would probably have to eat some $$$ to make that happen.

  6. brianlopez22 December 4th, 2012 at 10:44 am


    Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi
    Keep an eye on Mike Olt at the winter meetings. One rival club official believes #Rangers are willing to trade him.

    I know he struggled, but this would be a great move for the Yankees future.
    They have no real 3B prospects for the next 4 years (Dante Bichette Jr is still in low A ball).

    Chip – I love that deal.
    But maybe 1 step up? Olt + Leonys Martin + expiring contracts like Michael Young for Granderson

  7. DONNYBROOK December 4th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Murphy is too valuable as a 4th OF’er. I beleve the Yanks would have to offer More than just 1yr of Grandy to get Murphy and Olt.

  8. Shame Spencer December 4th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    Howe Farr December 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    ” I would be looking into whether the current hip problem was created by some sorta activity A-Rod participated in recently. ”

    Hmmm, I like this idea, I would start by looking at something Arod has been doing for the past 30 years, swinging a bat violently….I think you are onto something!

    ———————-

    Hahahahahahahaha!!

    With all this hip stuff going on, I have to tell you guys the ‘Arod to DH’ conversation just got funnier.

  9. LGY December 4th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    If the Yankees signed him, where does he play? Not first base; Tex is vastly superior there. Not DH because you’ve got a 38 year old with bad hips who is going to need that spot. So you’re talking about catcher only. So much for his “versatility” (versatility is in quotes because it really means “He’s such a butcher defensively that we can’t find a position to play him in on an every day basis”)

    ——————

    60-80 games at C, 60-80 games at DH, 5-15 games at 1B to give Tex a 1/2 day off.

    Easy.

  10. yankee21 December 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Good deal for NY. Doubt tex would agree to deal with ny unless they get back a heist.

  11. blake December 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Olt is ready to step in now and play 3B…..he’s not a star player I don’t think but he’s probably goin to be a good regular and he’s controllable for 6 years.

    I think the Rangers are thinking about moving Kinsler to 1b to make room for Profar and that’ d leave nowhere to play Olt….

    Sign Hamilton , get Olt… Steal all the Texas players!

  12. blake December 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Chip,

    I think the Yankees would probably have to add another player to Grandy to get Olt….and I can’t see Grandy getting you both Olt And Murphy.

  13. blake December 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Sign Hamilton….trade Grandy and nova for Olt…..then try and pick up Pelfrey off the scrap heap for pitching depth.

  14. spidanyc December 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Does Olt have a good glove?

  15. Shame Spencer December 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    blake – I’m sure you mean ALL the Texas players.. we need to be specific.

  16. brianlopez22 December 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    blake –

    If we trade Granderson for Olt, I think getting Hamilton is a must.
    You have to replace his HR production without all the K’s.

    but 6 years to a guy who already has injury problems could cripple us.
    I love his play but can he stay on the field?

  17. AAA December 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    I think the Yankees would probably have to add another player to Grandy to get Olt…

    ==========================================

    $10M would probably do it. Don’t know that you’d necessarily need the player. No way they get Murphy in such a deal.

  18. brianlopez22 December 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    We don’t even need Pelfrey.
    We have Warren and Phelps to fill in the 5th spot.

    I think Nova will turn it around but I also think he can be replaced by Phelps.
    The issue will be the following year when we lose Kuroda and Pettitte.
    Who fills in then?

  19. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    blake December 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Chip,

    I think the Yankees would probably have to add another player to Grandy to get Olt….and I can’t see Grandy getting you both Olt And Murphy.
    ——————–

    Curtis and Hughes for Murphy and Olt

  20. spidanyc December 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Olt for Grandy def. makes sense for both clubs. Olt is our 3B for both the present and future. AROD can be the full time DH when he comes back healthy. Gardner replaces Grandy in CF. Hamilton replaces Swish in RF. Ichiro for LF.

    One simple trade (Olt) for Grandy and one simple signing (Hamilton) improves the club drastically.

  21. blake December 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    spidanyc says:
    December 4, 2012 at 10:52 am
    Does Olt have a good glove?

    Solid….not Evan longoria but he’s a big league quality 3b from what I’ve seen and read

  22. blake December 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    “Curtis and Hughes for Murphy and Olt”

    Not trading Hughes to texas

  23. DONNYBROOK December 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    If your gonna trade Cano, you trade him outta the AL. The guy would haunt us forever.

  24. AAA December 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    One simple trade (Olt) for Grandy and one simple signing (Hamilton) improves the club drastically

    =================================

    Would likely mean the end of Cano’s time as a Yankee after 2013 though.

  25. Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    I love playing time arguments, as if no team has ever been able to juggle playing time between 3 players, 2 of whom play 2+ positions. (with overlap between all 3)

  26. Mike in Harrisburg December 4th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    I can’t be the only one significantly concerned about Hamilton’s ability to stay sober and effective in New York? The last thing we want is another multi-year albatross of a contract.

  27. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    LGY December 4th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    If the Yankees signed him, where does he play? Not first base; Tex is vastly superior there. Not DH because you’ve got a 38 year old with bad hips who is going to need that spot. So you’re talking about catcher only. So much for his “versatility” (versatility is in quotes because it really means “He’s such a butcher defensively that we can’t find a position to play him in on an every day basis”)

    ——————

    60-80 games at C, 60-80 games at DH, 5-15 games at 1B to give Tex a 1/2 day off.

    Easy.
    ————-

    Not easy. All (or the vast majority) of Napoli’s DH at bats would have to come before Alex returned from the DL which means that he would be the every day catcher down the stretch and during the summer months – that’s not a good plan.

    And given how down you are on Tex, why would you DH him at all given that his glove is the only asset you think he has at this point?

  28. Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    A-rod is not getting 100% of the DH PAs, Chip. Maybe if you were manager, but not under the current Yankees.

  29. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    blake December 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    “Curtis and Hughes for Murphy and Olt”

    Not trading Hughes to texas
    ————–

    Why not?

  30. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    A-rod is not getting 100% of the DH PAs, Chip. Maybe if you were manager, but not under the current Yankees.
    —————–

    Are you saying that because you think Girardi will bench him or because you think Girardi will play him at 3b?

  31. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    “Why not?”

    Cause he’s good and that creates a hole in the Yankee rotation….

  32. Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Are you saying that because you think Girardi will bench him or because you think Girardi will play him at 3b?

    They are going to play him at third. He is still a good defender there and its batting which is taking a toll on his hips, not defense.

  33. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    “Would likely mean the end of Cano’s time as a Yankee after 2013 though.”

    Only if Hal wanted it to be…..be even so …4 years of Hamilton > 8 or 9 for Cano

  34. Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    I would trade Hughes to Texas, I wouldn’t trade Hughes+Grandy to texas in that deal.

  35. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Arod needs to be the full time DH when he comes back…..acquiring Olt would allow that to happen.

  36. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Id trade Hughes for Olt straight up….not trading them Grandy and Hughes….

  37. The Return of Stoneburner December 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    By Luke Adams [December 4 at 9:27am CST]

    Mike Olt is a name to watch this week at the Winter Meetings, according to Jon Morosi of FOX Sports, who tweets that at least one rival official believes the Rangers are willing to trade the young third baseman.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#VGVG6LQYJpJ38I9i.99

    ****

    Man feels like Olt has already been traded so many times or speculated about that he is made his way back and was traded back to the Rangers – - – -

  38. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Are you saying that because you think Girardi will bench him or because you think Girardi will play him at 3b?

    They are going to play him at third. He is still a good defender there and its batting which is taking a toll on his hips, not defense.
    ———-

    bad hips will hurt his mobility in the field. I think if he plays there more than once a week Girardi’s asking for trouble both in terms of his performance and health.

    Sadly you’re probably right that he’ll do it anyway – especially if they go with Eric Chavez as the placeholder and don’t give someone a legitimate chance to win the job.

  39. The Return of Stoneburner December 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Is Tyler Austin hitting wise Mike Olt 2012?

  40. G. Love December 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Yanks & Texas match up well, but I doubt you’ll ever see that kind of deal between them. It’s why we always end up trading with the same teams like the Mariners & Pirates and Indians. We only seem to trade with non-threats.

    I actually think you could see Grandy going to the Mariners. I don’t know why, but I have a feeling the Yankees could get some young cost controlled pieces from Seattle and use the money saved on Hamilton & Ichiro. Cashman always trades with the same teams.

  41. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: Dan Haren in agreement with #Nationals, one year, $13M. Pending physical.

    There goes that back up plan….that’s a lot of doing for hkm

  42. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    “Why not?”

    Cause he’s good and that creates a hole in the Yankee rotation….
    —————–

    As said about Cano, Hughes is gone at the end of this year anyway – might as well get something more than a draft pick for him.

  43. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    “I actually think you could see Grandy going to the Mariners. I don’t know why, but I have a feeling the Yankees could get some young cost controlled pieces from Seattle ”

    Montero!

  44. AAA December 4th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Only if Hal wanted it to be…..be even so …4 years of Hamilton > 8 or 9 for Cano

    ========================

    Could always change his mind, but he’s been kinda clear on the $189M. Agree on the 2nd part

  45. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    “As said about Cano, Hughes is gone at the end of this year anyway – might as well get something more than a draft pick for him.”

    They should try to sign Hughes cheaply

  46. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Strasburg
    Gio
    J-Zimm
    Haren
    Detwiler

    Nice.

  47. Shame Spencer December 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    I love playing time arguments, as if no team has ever been able to juggle playing time between 3 players, 2 of whom play 2+ positions. (with overlap between all 3)

    ——————

    With the way we have this discussion constantly, you’d almost think we don’t have a bunch of holes to fill.

  48. AAA December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: Dan Haren in agreement with #Nationals, one year, $13M. Pending physical

    =========================

    $13M. Kinda surprised by that, but perhaps the Nats are paying a premium for not going 2 years.

  49. Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Is Tyler Austin hitting wise Mike Olt 2012?

    I think Austin in 2013 can become the Olt of 2012 yes. May end with him traded, as these kind of mid tier top 100 prospects tend to be. Getting Olt and possibly being able to fill 3rd/1B/RF with a combination of Olt/Austin in 2014 could help them get under 189

  50. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    “As said about Cano, Hughes is gone at the end of this year anyway – might as well get something more than a draft pick for him.”

    They should try to sign Hughes cheaply
    ————–

    After what Jeremy Guthrie just got? Good luck with that.

  51. DONNYBROOK December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Nobody knows for sure what is, “taking a toll on his hips”, including Dr’s. Again, how many players in the history of MLB have torn BOTH hip labrums??? Many, Many have played 3B, and many, many have swung hard, but how many can you remember tearing up both labrums???

  52. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    The expos aren’t messing around….they gonna be good

  53. Shame Spencer December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Too bad we can’t just play Arod at 3B and let him NOT swing a bat…

  54. LGY December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    And given how down you are on Tex, why would you DH him at all given that his glove is the only asset you think he has at this point?

    —————–

    When did I say I was that down on Tex? He still should obviously play everyday.

    I just think he has a really bad contract and Napoli will out hit him next year.

  55. The Return of Stoneburner December 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    Does anyone think Michael Saunders could breakout/show on promise according to fansgraph?

    http://www.fangraphs.com/fanta.....akes-good/

    And if so – would you try for a (Paxton or Mauer), Saunders, Ryan package with the Mariners involving Granderson and parts? Just curious

  56. MTU December 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    I have a question for ya’.

    The Yankees and the Rangers are rivals.

    And they frequently find themselves competing against each other in the PS.

    Why would they want to help us, or us them ?

    To me it makes little sense to trade w. a direct competitor and is highly unlikely.

    It almost as unlikely as doing a big trade with the Sux IMO.

    Texas and the Yankees make for strange bedfellows and this ain’t politics.

    I don’t see it.

  57. The Return of Stoneburner December 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am
    Is Tyler Austin hitting wise Mike Olt 2012?

    I think Austin in 2013 can become the Olt of 2012 yes. May end with him traded, as these kind of mid tier top 100 prospects tend to be. Getting Olt and possibly being able to fill 3rd/1B/RF with a combination of Olt/Austin in 2014 could help them get under 189

    ****

    What is your view of the Texas and PCL leagues? Just curious – - -

  58. Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Mark Teixeira is a good player. He isn’t the great player they signed, and isn’t the kind of player that should be eating 22.5 mil per year for the next 5 years. For the price of Mark Teixeira you could probably have Napoli+someone else good, both of whom will be off the books in less time.

    Tex is a much better baseball player than Napoli, but there is more to building a roster than simple talent.

  59. Benny Blanco December 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Nationals sign haren. 1yr 13 mill

  60. Triple Short of a Cycle December 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    I can’t be the only one significantly concerned about Hamilton’s ability to stay sober and effective in New York

    —————————————————-

    Is alcohol only legal in NY?

  61. Triple Short of a Cycle December 4th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    If your gonna trade Cano, you trade him outta the AL. The guy would haunt us forever.

    ————————————

    I never understood this logic. If your best offer comes from the AL you make the deal

  62. The Return of Stoneburner December 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    The Yankees and the Rangers are rivals.

    And they frequently find themselves competing against each other in the PS.

    Why would they want to help us, or us them ?

    ******

    The only scenario I can think of this morning is that the Yanks and Tigers have done trades – and this was post-2006 ALDS and all.

    I think it would be more different with a division rival – but very true – there seems to be an extra level of Yankees hate from the Rangers fan base – and I live in Dallas so I can vouch for that – - – -

  63. yankee21 December 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Blake as a minimum they need to find out from Hughes’ agent what his FA plans/ open to extension thoughts are, and act accordingly.

  64. The Return of Stoneburner December 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    I never understood this logic. If your best offer comes from the AL you make the deal

    ******

    Agree – that is why I thought the Twins hurt themselves with the Santana trade – and the Jays to a degree with the Halladay trade – - – -

  65. Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    What is your view of the Texas and PCL leagues? Just curious – – -

    Gotta be very wary about hyping up someone from the PCL, and to a lesser extent the TL. They numbers can be a good gauge of how advanced some guys are and things like plate discipline aren’t going to be too affected, but the IL and EL are much better places to compare hitting prospects because of the difficulty curve. I think the PCL is more of a joke than the TL though.

  66. MTU December 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    G. Love-

    Granderson would really help the weak hitting M’s.

    Questions are can they afford a guy like him, and what do they have to offer us back that would help us ?

    Putting Granderson out there would only further compound our already precarious OF situation.

    If they could return us a good young OF’er that would help but why would they do that ?

    I like Jaso but he isn’t near good enough of a return for a guy like Granderson.

  67. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    yankee21 says:
    December 4, 2012 at 11:12 am
    Blake as a minimum they need to find out from Hughes’ agent what his FA plans/ open to extension thoughts are, and act accordingly.

    Agreed

  68. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle December 4th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    If your gonna trade Cano, you trade him outta the AL. The guy would haunt us forever.

    ————————————

    I never understood this logic. If your best offer comes from the AL you make the deal
    ————-

    Agreed, especially since trading Cano to the NL doesn’t mean he stays there. Dude’s a FA at the end of the year, you could trade him to the Mets and next year he could sign with the Blue Jays – so what difference does it make?

  69. Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Unless he comes cheaply, I don’t think they should extend Hughes or plan to sign him in FA. He is my favorite Yankee pitcher, but too erratic, not good enough. Get him on some deal that is around 6-7 AAV and thats ok, but he is probably going to collect 10+ mil if he just repeats 2012.

  70. coney1 December 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Per Harold Reynolds on MLB Network: He suspects Alex Rodriguez may retire within the next year. He thinks the Yankees may be overhyping his ability to return, especially this year, in order to save some leverage in trade and free agent negotiations now that the A-Rod story is out. He also added that the Yankees have insurance on A-Rods contract that covers at least 70% of what remains. So perhaps the Yankees front office knows more about A-Rod’s projected future than what they have told us and know they will have a huge portion of his payroll expense back, via insurance, for 2014. In this case, maybe they do make a play for Josh Hamilton.

  71. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    The rangers and Yankees are rivals but they aren’t in the division….I doubt they’d avoid a deal that made sense just because they might play each other in the playoffs…..

  72. Mike in Harrisburg December 4th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Is alcohol only legal in NY?

    ———————–

    Obviously not but we know there is a tangible “NYC effect” that has chewed up and spit out many a decent player. Hamilton’s shown he is still prone to the occasional relapse and with the media scrutiny and glut of temptations available to him in the city, I just question whether it is a wise move.

  73. The Return of Stoneburner December 4th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    What is your view of the Texas and PCL leagues? Just curious – – -

    Gotta be very wary about hyping up someone from the PCL, and to a lesser extent the TL. They numbers can be a good gauge of how advanced some guys are and things like plate discipline aren’t going to be too affected, but the IL and EL are much better places to compare hitting prospects because of the difficulty curve. I think the PCL is more of a joke than the TL though.

    ******

    Curious again – then what would be your thoughts on Wil Meyers? Do you think the numbers are legit – or is this another Brandon Wood? Also – would the numbers Olt has put up worry you at all with the Texas and PCL coming into the equation?

  74. ac1 December 4th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    A-Rod has too much pride to retire like this.
    He will try to come back and leave on a good note.

  75. MTU December 4th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Too bad about Haren.

    He would have been a good backup guy in the event the yankees wished to trade a starter.

    Guess they’ll have consider other options like Gorzelanny, Nolasco, or
    Lannan if they want to deal Nova,Hughes, or Phelps.

  76. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    I can’t see Arod retiring…..but if he did and the Yankees just paid him his money with insurances help in a lump sum would that get him off the payroll for luxury tax purposes?

  77. RayVT December 4th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Ouch! Nationals sign Dan Haren! Smart move IMO for a 1 Yr Contract.

  78. Triple Short of a Cycle December 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Obviously not but we know there is a tangible “NYC effect” that has chewed up and spit out many a decent player

    ————————————–

    Most players don’t live in NYC. Most live in Westchester, Conn or Jersey

  79. Mike Ri December 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    I can’t see Arod retiring anytime soon…. with that dudes ego…. no way… he loves NY .. he loves the spot light ..( good or bad ) …..He’s got complete power of the Yankees with his NO trade clause….. Plus he’s getting paid 26 million a year…. He’ll rot as a DH or on the bench before hanging it up.

  80. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    ac1 says:
    December 4, 2012 at 11:16 am
    A-Rod has too much pride to retire like this.
    He will try to come back and leave on a good note.1″”

    He might have too much pride to keep getting beat by 88 mph fastballs because his hips are shot too…..

  81. Patrick December 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    That’s a good rotation for Nationals especially if Haren can stay healthy. Perhaps this year they won’t bench their best pitcher for the most important games? It would actually be hilarious if 2012 was their one chance in the playoffs and they never come close again.

  82. Chip December 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    If I’m Phil’s agent and Cashman approached me my answer would be 5 years $60 – 65m. He’s younger and better than Guthrie who just got 3 years at just over 8/year.

    To me the Haren signing makes me think that the Nats don’t think they’re going to bring back LaRoche. If they were bringing him back they would have filled their rotation spot by dealing Morse but they can’t deal Morse if LaRoche doesn’t re-sign.

  83. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Do people realize that Dallas is close to Mexico and all the illegal drugs one could hope for? I think the drug stuff is way over blown with Hamilton…..the biggest concern is his injury history and the length of the deal

  84. MTU December 4th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    I disagree Blake.

    I think there is plenty of bad blood there, and IMO you don’t help out your best competitors whether they are in your Division or not.

    There are plenty of better options anyway.

    Too convuluted, and highly unlikely.

    Settle for Hamilton dude.

    ;)

  85. MTU December 4th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    I’m out.

    Catch you all later.

  86. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    @LostNYY: #Arod being very realistic that this could mean the end of his career. #Yankees off the hook ? It’s all starting to make sense now.

    He’s have to flat out retire and walk away from 114 million for them to be off the hook unless some kind of arrangement could be made…..JF is the CBA expert

  87. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    JF,

    If Arod just retired due to injury and the Yanks and he arranged a settlement where they paid him with insurances help the money he’s owed…..then does that get him off their books for the Luxury tax?

  88. Shame Spencer December 4th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    :arrow:

  89. Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Curious again – then what would be your thoughts on Wil Meyers? Do you think the numbers are legit – or is this another Brandon Wood? Also – would the numbers Olt has put up worry you at all with the Texas and PCL coming into the equation?

    You have to go to scouting reports on these west coast minor leagues. Olt hasn’t played in the PCL, and he was good enough in Carolina League & North Western league. Wil Myers has crushed pretty much every level he has ever been on, not worried. I don’t think a guy should just be labelled ‘the next brandon wood’ or that you should never trade for a player just because they played on the west coast in minor ball. Sometimes guys don’t work out. If you look at it though, Wood never took off until he hit the california based leagues, where as Myers has been a heavy bat anywhere.

  90. blake December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    @Sean_McAdam: #RedSoxTalk Giving up top draft pick ‘factor’ in Swisher interest … http://t.co/Pp3rcTQA

    They don want the yanks to get their pick

  91. yanks61 December 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    YT – If you’re around, I just want to thank you for going to so much trouble regarding my question in the last thread about insurance coverage on Arod. It looks, from what you and everyone else has dug up (and especially this bit that Coney1 just found from Harold Reynolds) like the Yankees may be in good shape if ARod is forced to retire for health reasons.

  92. Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    They don want the yanks to get their pick

    Teams don’t get picks anymore, and the Red Sox first rounder is protected

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