Winter Meetings Day 2 notes: “I’m prepared to drag this thing out”
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Dec 04, 2012 
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One day after announcing the Alex Rodriguez injury, Brian Cashman was approached by various trade and free agent options.
“I’ve had a few of maybe the names I wouldn’t have thought of – lesser names that I wouldn’t have an interest in – volunteer their services for that position,” Cashmans said. “I’ve had some people suggest, ‘Hey, my guy who plays second base, he can swing over to play third.’ That type if stuff. I don’t have an interest in stuff like that. … I did have one irresponsible ask (in a trade suggestion), which I assume has everything to do with yesterday’s announcement. I’m no longer talking to that club.”
Although Cashman expects the market to continue its rapid development — “It seems like this is a market flush with money, the way it’s acting,” he said — but he plans to remain patient. Cashman said he believes it’s possible he could complete a move before these meetings end on Thursday morning, but he feels no need to force the issue.
“The preference is always to get your problems solved and get them fixed,” he said. “But the realistic side of that is that it’s going to take time and you have to solve it over time. If you don’t feel comfortable with the solution, you shouldn’t solve it until you feel comfortable. I’m prepared to drag this thing out.
“Hopefully everybody else is, too.”
• Cashman admitted to speaking with the agents for five different players: Kevin Youkilis, Eric Chavez, Raul Ibanez, Ichiro Suzuki and A.J. Pierzynski. Those were the only names specifically mentioned, and Cashman confirmed that he’s had discussions about each one.
• Despite talking to Pierzynski’s camp, Cashman was as firm as ever in his belief that the Yankees will have an in-house starting catcher next season. “I think our catching will come from within, personally, as we are right now,” Cashman said. “I’d be surprised if it didn’t.”
• Cashman on whether he needs to stick with one-year deals: “Optimally that’s the best way you’d like to go, but it might not be the way I have to go. It just depends on the player and the dollar amount.”
• Earlier today, Joe Girardi said the Yankees need a third base solution that’s capable of playing the position all year because of Alex Rodriguez’s uncertainty. Cashman disagreed. Sort of. “I was just looking to someone who can get there for three months at the very least,” Cashman said. “If it’s somebody that’s good enough to go the whole way, fine, but there’s not a lot of choices out there. I’m not going to limit it by looking at it that way. I understand what he’s talking about – you need to have the protection – but it’s a very limited sandbox to play in.”
• With Ichiro and Ibanez in the mix, Cashman indicated that he’s willing to use an all-left-handed regular outfield. “Beggars can’t be choosers, so to speak,” Cashman said. “If I’m in a situation where we have equal righty or lefty bats, you can gravitate one way or the other, but it doesn’t match up that way. … If we did (sign another left-handed outfielder), we’d need two outfield bats, one from the right side, one from the left side. If we wanted to put another left handed bat in, and it’s all three left handed outfielders, I would say focus on me adding another right-handed bat too, in the Andruw Jones category.”
• To be clear, in no way did I think Cashman was talking about bringing back Andruw Jones, he was just referring to a right-handed outfielder who strictly plays against lefties.
• Will Brett Gardner be in center field next year? “I see Gardner and Granderson both as center fielders,” Cashman said. “Currently Gardner is our left fielder and Granderson is our center fielder, and if we so choose to make a change, we’ll have no problem doing so. But that’s not something we’re talking about right now.”
• By the way, forgot to mention earlier that Girardi said Granderson had his vision checked and it’s fine. There was some speculation that maybe his vision caused last year’s second-half struggles. Apparently that’s not the case.
• Cashman on Chavez: “We know him very well and he had a hell of a year. He’s put himself in a very strong position, I think, in a marketplace that is thin at that position. That will run interference with our interest level, I would think, but that doesn’t mean that we can’t make something happen there. We’ll see. We’re engaged.”
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Would love to know the source of the irresponsible ask.
I did have one irresponsible ask (in a trade suggestion), which I assume has everything to do with yesterday’s announcement. I’m no longer talking to that club.”
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It has to be one of two teams. Hal from the Yankees or Seattle suggesting get Montero back to play third. If Cabrera can play it with a jacked up eye why cant Jesus?
Granderson for Cliff Lee?
http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/.....-phillies/
That was altogether discouraging.
Dragging it out. Yankee specialty. Currently they are dragging out paying back their ticket holders for the 2012 unused playoff tickets. The same ones they needed to be paid for in August. Also dragging out payments to season ticket holders with $ in their credit bank who aren’t renewing. 7 weeks now and not a single nickel back. Effing jokers.
Cashman can’t be serious.
@Buster_ESPN: AL source: Orioles met today with the representatives for Nick Swisher.
@Buster_ESPN: Rival officials believe that the Red Sox are laying the groundwork for a trade of Jacoby Ellsbury, for the pitching they need.
Who they getting for a year of me glass?
Someone on IATMS says the Yankees are going to give in to keppingers 3 year demands
Looking forward to that defensive Stewie/Cervy duo
ellsbury would not bring back anything more than a fourth starter. he’s injury prone, expensive, and will certainly test the free agent market. as talented as he is, and he’ll have a great walk year, he’s not worth the huge contract he’ll want.
Irresponsible ask to cashman could very well be a good deal for the team, but we’ll never know.
Jerkface December 4th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Someone on IATMS says the Yankees are going to give in to keppingers 3 year demands
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3 year deal for Jeff Keppinger? Gross.
“There was some speculation that maybe his vision caused last year’s second-half struggles. Apparently that’s not the case.”
Grandy never saw a pitch that he didn’t like
“I did have one irresponsible ask (in a trade suggestion)”
I’m guessing Chip proposed one of his crazy trade scenarios to Cashman.
@JonHeymanCBS: hamilton talks w/ rangers were put “on hold” at some point today. texas battling it out on zack. http://t.co/nf1h6LLI
Swoop cash…..swoop
Lost .. ?@LostNYY
#Yankees are not “out” of Hamilton running. How “in” they are remains to be seen.
I’d love to know what the irresponsible ask was.
Probably Olt for Granderson.
If they are fighting over Hairston, they are probably not in on Hamilton.
“3 year deal for Jeff Keppinger? Gross.”
If it’s for 12 mil, that’s not a bad. But I would prefer the Yankees give that playing time to Nunez, Adams etc. though.
But speaking of gross thats what I would call spending 39 mil for a certain defensive liability, mediocre type hitter. But I guess I should defer to the Sox who know better. It’s not like they would offer that kind of money to someone elso who is mediocre like …hmmm Victorino. Oh wait
“… I did have one irresponsible ask (in a trade suggestion), which I assume has everything to do with yesterday’s announcement. I’m no longer talking to that club.”
I wonder who they were asking about… the first person I thought of was CC.
Lost… really going out on a (phantom) limb there.
Probably Cano for like some scrub utility guy
@mlbtraderumors: Red Sox In, Angels Out On Ryan Dempster http://t.co/gEwStYOQ #mlb
Yes please to Dempster in Fenway
Thats what I was thinking Blake. It has to be out there for Cash to no longer speak to that team
If it’s for 12 mil, that’s not a bad. But I would prefer the Yankees give that playing time to Nunez, Adams etc. though.
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Committing 3 years to a utility guy especially when they have such strict budget constraints seems like a really bad idea.
“Committing 3 years to a utility guy especially when they have such strict budget constraints seems like a really bad idea.”
Yeah maybe… but I was just using it as a segue to pull your chain over Napoli.
Grandy for Cliff Lee??
CC
Hiroki
LEE
Pettie
Hughes
not bad
I bet other teams are enjoying the Yankees’ financial position.
Yeah maybe… but I was just using it as a segue to pull your chain over Napoli.
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Not taking the bait
austinmac December 4th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I bet other teams are enjoying the Yankees’ financial position.
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Of course because the one advantage they had was money. They were always willing to spend. I don’t think fans realize how much of a safety net that was. If they aren’t big spenders then what are they? What is their undeniable advantage?
“Not taking the bait”
Ok. But since they both got 39 for 3 does that mean the Sox think Victorino is as valuable as Napoli?
Interesting how the rs are IN on everything.
Other teams and Selig are thrilled because the only thing that could stop the Yankees spending was…. themselves. There was never going to be an implementation of a salary cap or anything to legally prevent the Yankees from spending as much as they want. The Yankees have basically decided on their own to give up their prime advantage in an uncapped sport.
“I’ve had a few of maybe the names I wouldn’t have thought of – lesser names that I wouldn’t have an interest in – volunteer their services for that position,” Cashmans said.
One of those was probably Juan Uribe.
@Jim_Duquette: How do you bring Josh Hamilton to Nashville and not have him sign before he leaves? Not good.
@Jim_Duquette: Players that come to the Winter Meetings are ones that need to create a market…..or ones that are close to signing…
@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: Chances of #Diamondbacks trading Kubel better than chances of them trading Upton.
The Braves, Mariners, and Indians were all collecting background information and character assessments on Upton to ensure he’d be a good fit, one source told Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic today.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#msS5qFmGgQjbYJUd.99
Blake-
Way things are shaping up the Yankees are looking at lefties starting at every position except SS if Pierzynski, Ibanez, Chavez, ad Ichiro come on board.
So why not sign Kubel too?
Lesser names that Cashman is talking to now ? I mean this is F’N pathetic what is going on here. Cashman and crew need to wake the F up because if this is how the new Steiners are doing business in the few years they’ve had control of the team.. well I’ll pray they sell this team very soon, because it’s a disgrace. If Papa George was alive he’d be ashamed of what is going on here..
Our lovely yankee offense next year…
Jeter
Ichiro
Cano
Tex
Granderson
Keppinger/Chavez
Ibanez
Cervelli
Gardner
Worse than the Mets .. am I stressed out and frustrated? Yep, because that is one seriously uninteresting team to watch play or even care if they win or not. GOOD FN LUCK!
“So why not sign Kubel too?”
Cause he’s a diamondback
@ajcbraves: I was told no. RT @watson_chase: @ajcbraves r braves in on this possible 4 team trade with dbacks getting cabrera from cle??
Blake-
So brother Upton could end up in Atlanta after all?
DanBarbarisi
Yankees have gone far enough on Youkilis to ask for his medicals – but right now the sides are far apart on $$ (but open to 1 year deal)
ProspectInsider
Growing sense that Upton lands in Texas sooner than later.
Yankee Trader says:
December 4, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Blake-
So brother Upton could end up in Atlanta after all?
Doesn’t sound like it….they won’t trade Simmons
@Ken_Rosenthal: Rival exec on whether #RedSox will trade Ellsbury: “Very possible. Open to it, just not sure if it lines up.”
Id trade Warren for him
@JimBowdenESPNxm: Greinke up-date:Keep hearing Dodgers & Angels are the two most likely landing spots;&Hamilton wants to return to TX but needs establish mrkt
DanBarbarisi
Yankees have gone far enough on Youkilis to ask for his medicals – but right now the sides are far apart on $$ (but open to 1 year deal)
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@JimBowdenESPNxm: Boston Red Sox source: “we checked in on Greinke but that was the extent of it”…Sox appear to have checked in on most FA starting pitchers
blake……Phillies move Lee for Ells. Dodgers want a shutdown rotation.
Id almost rather lose than sign Youkalis….almost
Pat M. December 4th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
blake……Phillies move Lee for Ells. Dodgers want a shutdown rotation.
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Are they that down on Ruiz’s suspension and Tommy Joseph?
Yankee Trader December 4th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
“I’ve had a few of maybe the names I wouldn’t have thought of – lesser names that I wouldn’t have an interest in – volunteer their services for that position,” Cashmans said.
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How can it be any lesser than the names we are hearing them interested in? What are they talking to retiree’s and bridgeport bluefish players?
Pat M. says:
December 4, 2012 at 10:01 pm
blake……Phillies move Lee for Ells. Dodgers want a shutdown rotation.”
For who? The Dodgers probably would sign Greinke and take on lees salary
9m Lost .. ?@LostNYY
Cashman’s last comments were extremely discouraging, but don’t let it be. He is much busier than he is admitting. #pokerface
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5h Mike Maggi ?@MMaggiNYBD
@LostNYY Hearing Yanks are close to a deal with A.J. Pierzynski. Can you verify?
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12m Lost .. ?@LostNYY
@MMaggiNYBD not happening.
I would think Granderson would have more value than Ellsbury….healthier….
Ellsbury was really defined by that big 2011. He’s only have three full seasons…
Youkilis wouldn’t be a bad sign. Just…
Ellsbury / Cliff Lee
so no AJ ??
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“Pat M. says:
December 4, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Ellsbury / Cliff Lee”
How does that tie in with the Dodgers? If Boston would take all Lees money maybe they’d do that….but Ellsbury is a boras guy and almost a FA
Cashman looks like the dude John Candy and Jim Belushi have in their paddywagon in the movie “Only The Lonely” LOL.