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Could Reynolds be a fallback plan at third?

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 05, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Just thinking out loud…

We already know the Yankees check in with just about everyone, so it’s little surprise that they’ve met with Mark Reynolds’ agent. It’s also no secret that — like most of the corner infielders on the market – Reynolds is obviously flawed. He hits for a ton of power, but he strikes out an unthinkable amount (even more than Curtis Granderson). He’s technically a third baseman, but not a very good one.

I can’t help wondering if he might be a good fallback option as a guy who can fill the third base hole if absolutely necessary, but would ideally become the Yankees designated hitter and backup first baseman.

If the Yankees signed Reynolds, it could be similar to when they traded for Nick Swisher. At the time of the trade, Swisher was the Yankees best option at first base, but things adjusted when the Yankees signed Mark Teixiera. Swisher took away the desperation without eliminating other options. Reynolds could — for now — pencil in as the Yankees starting third baseman, but they could certainly keep looking for better defensive options. And assuming they find one, Reynolds could move easily into their wide-open DH spot.

As it is, the Yankees don’t have much right-handed power, and Reynolds could certainly provide that. Although he’s really an all-or-nothing guy, he actually has a career .367 on-base percentage against lefties. He could help fill a desperate need for now, then slide into a more appropriate role later.

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357 Responses to “Could Reynolds be a fallback plan at third?”

  1. Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Resetting the luxury tax is not that big of a deal at all. Going from a 50% tax to 17.5% on $210M payroll is about a $7M savings.

    People have trouble understanding the concept of marginal tax brackets. The Yankees are only taxed on overages, so its a relatively small amount of the payroll that is subject to it.

  2. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    LGY December 5th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    Resetting the luxury tax is not that big of a deal at all. Going from a 50% tax to 17.5% on $210M payroll is about a $7M savings.

    ————————

    You might want to pass that onto Kay.

  3. Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    Is Kay actually saying the Yankees are taxed 50% on the entire shebang?

  4. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Unless we all heard wrong. Hopefully his tirade will be on youtube or their podcast to make sure

  5. RMS December 5th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Mark Reynolds stinks at 3rd base. Might as well have Nunez play there.

  6. jackamir December 5th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    They are selling. Give me a break in 2014 we will be looking at new ownership…..Book it!!!

  7. kd December 5th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Kevin Kernan ?@WheresKernan

    At Yankee Stadium now for the big Derek Jeter press conference.

    What press conference?

  8. Barry December 5th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    There must be a deal somewhere. Personally, if Swisher came back I would be thrilled. Michael Young. Hamilton. Not Reynolds. Not Youkilis, but in preference to Reynolds…Sure.

  9. jacksquat December 5th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    At least Reynolds is under 30…

  10. Niblick December 5th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    I think maybe it’s time for someone to slap Cashman on the back of the head (figuratively, of course, since I would never advocate violence) and wake him up. Too much time spent bartending in crazy wigs, rappelling down tall buildings, and sleeping with all kinds of scary women seems to have addled his brain.

  11. Bronx Jeers December 5th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Reynolds is a fallback plan?

    More like a fall down plan.

  12. blake December 5th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    blake says:
    December 5, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    Just for fun: (to see what it’d feel like)

    Jeter SS
    Headley 3B
    Cano 2B
    Tex 1B
    Hamilton LF
    Arod DH
    AJ C
    Ichiro/Hairston RF
    Gardner CF

  13. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    Too much time spent bartending in crazy wigs, rappelling down tall buildings

    ————–

    To be fair those are done for charity.

  14. blake December 5th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    Folks have to project what Reynolds would be like without Orioles magic……probably bad

  15. Chad Jennings December 5th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    kd December 5th, 2012 at 6:39 pm e
    Kevin Kernan ?@WheresKernan

    At Yankee Stadium now for the big Derek Jeter press conference.

    What press conference?

    Jeter is doing some sort of charity thing at the stadium. No one was allowed to announce it because it’s a surprise for the people involved. As far as I know it’s not actually a press conference, just an event with press in attendance.

  16. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    At this point I don’t hate the idea of Reynolds but only if they trade Granderson – the two of them together is way too many wasted outs.

    With Arizona picking up both Chavez and Hinske they have too many corner INFS. Like I said yesterday, maybe work a deal with Kevin Towers for Kubel and Chris Johnson.

    The optimist in me says that maybe losing a role player like Chavez that the Yankees were probably assuming would be waiting when the Yankees got around to him will be the kick in the rear that the Yankees need.

    As for reports that the Yankees didn’t make offers for Keppinger or Chavez, I take that with a grain of salt. The Yankees don’t like being anyone’s stalking horse so my guess is that they asked the agents what they were thinking in terms of contracts and then either say “too high” or “too many years” or “if you cut back on the years we would up the money” and so technically they’re not making offers, but are negotiating. They don’t want an agent to turn to another team and say “this is what the Yankees are offering”

  17. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    Chip,

    Cashman said he wanted to be the stalking horse. Of course, I don’t think he knew what it meant.

    If Young was available, I’d be very interested.

  18. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes December 5th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Chad, for $7.5M. You’ve got to be kidding me.

  19. Pauldanand December 5th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    The Yankees are falling of the financial cliff.

  20. Pauldanand December 5th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    *off

  21. Niblick December 5th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Unfortunately, it’s all too obvious which end of the stalking horse Cashman is.

  22. JRC December 5th, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Give Dante Bichette jr the opportunity, this kid hit two homers in spring training.

  23. Niblick December 5th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    What, is Charlie Hayes not available?

  24. Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    Cashman was misquoted; he said he wants the 2013 Yankees to be a Stocking Horse, with all kinds of promotions tied to DRob’s high socks. It’s going to be great. All season.

  25. Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Sorry, that was supposed to be Stocking Horse™.

    Cha-ching!

  26. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Pauldanand December 5th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    The Yankees are falling of the financial cliff.

    —————–

    Were you the guy that called into WFAN this afternoon

  27. tomingeorgia December 5th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Austin,
    A “stalking horse” is a disguised hunter (horse costume) trying to kill the king’s deer. Worked on Teix, maybe he’s approaching the herd now.

  28. jr1212 December 5th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    “@BryanHoch: Scott Boras said Brian Cashman told him he’s unable to chase players he wants right now. Working with ownership “to see where he can go.””

  29. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    don’t think there would be to many here that would be happy with Reynolds at 3rd …..

  30. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    “At Yankee Stadium now for the big Derek Jeter press conference.”

    Probably no big deal. Maybe just announcing his membership in weight watchers or something.

  31. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    you heard it here..Cash will be gone from the Winter Meetings before noon tomorrow, if he hasn’t left already

  32. coney1 December 5th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    jr1212 December 5th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    “@BryanHoch: Scott Boras said Brian Cashman told him he’s unable to chase players he wants right now. Working with ownership “to see where he can go.””

    Hal Steinbrenner is a piece of s**t

  33. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    joeman December 5th, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    you heard it here..Cash will be gone from the Winter Meetings before noon tomorrow, if he hasn’t left already

    —————–

    Yea more than likely he will be. Then he will comeback here and say we still believe in what we have and we won’t make a move just to make one.

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Bronx Jeers December 5th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Reynolds is a fallback plan?

    More like a fall down plan.
    ///

    LOL. Definitely a swing and fall down plan.

  35. G. Love December 5th, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    “jr1212 December 5th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
    “@BryanHoch: Scott Boras said Brian Cashman told him he’s unable to chase players he wants right now. Working with ownership “to see where he can go.””

    Glad to see the Yankees front office functioning like a well oiled machine this off season. They should have all their loose ends tied up by the time every player left on the board of value is locked up.

    If it’s not important to them to go into the off season knowing what they can and can’t do in a timely fashion, it’s not important to us to support the team going forward.

    It’s only the off season. There’s plenty of months left to find players. for 4 every day positions.

  36. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Hal Steinbrenner is a piece of s**t

    —————-

    I wonder if Hal realizes that Yankee fans will turn their back on the team if they fail.

  37. pkyankfan69 December 5th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    I completely did not understand how overall really insignificant the drop in luxury from 50% to 17.5% would be…

    $209M Payroll @ 50% tax = $219M
    $209M Payroll @ 17.5% tax = $212.5M

    So they are potentially ruining 2 years to save $6.5M(ish) a year???? Yea, sure.

    Thanks for the explanation all, their reasoning of the tax resetting is complete BS, just an excuse they are using to lower the budget… Thank you for helping me see the light!

  38. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
    Hal Steinbrenner is a piece of s**t

    —————-

    I wonder if Hal realizes that Yankee fans will turn their back on the team if they fail
    ————————————————–
    if he didn’t know he will find out quick

  39. coney1 December 5th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    G. Love,

    I’m done supporting them. If they go into the season with a bunch of scrubs for their current open positions, then I’m not going to a single game or watching a single game on TV this year. I’ll watch my Yankeeography and reminisce about when I actually enjoyed watching this team.

  40. chicken little December 5th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Its December 5. How the hell is cashman only now checking with ownership to see “how far he can go?” Its an epic fail if yanks completely misread the market and thought they could sign decent players to one year $2 million contracts and only now are dealing with reality.

  41. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    I’m sure you guys have discussed it but I really don’t get the Chavez non-signing. Cashman wants players to wait, but so far nobody except Ichiro is listening. And even Ichiro is not going to wait much longer. He’s another one I don’t get why they just don’t sign him already. They will make his paycheck back in merchandise and tickets sales alone.

    It used to be everybody wanted to come here for the money and the chance to win. :sad:

  42. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    joeman December 5th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
    Hal Steinbrenner is a piece of s**t

    —————-

    I wonder if Hal realizes that Yankee fans will turn their back on the team if they fail
    ————————————————–
    if he didn’t know he will find out quick

    ———————

    He’s going to be in for a rude awakening.

  43. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    I usually truck down from CT about 10 times a season…that will not happen this year in the state they are in…can’t seeing paying all that $ for the product they now have

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    How’d we get here? smh

  45. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Scott Boras told reporters that Cashman was complaining to him that he’s not able to go after the players that he wants and plans to sit down with ownership to reassess.

    Now, I take everything Boras says with more than a few grains of salt, but if he’s on the level then that’s a good thing. Brian should sit down with Hal and say “look, we have a plan I know that, but the costs this year are higher than we anticipated them being and I think we need to adjust our plans to compensate. Not that we need to go crazy, but we do need to free up the purse strings more than we were planning.”

  46. Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    I am sure the organization wasn’t happy seeing all of the empty seats during the play offs. If they don’t improve the team they will see hundreds of empty seats at every game this year. I really don’t think Hal gets it. The New York Yankees can’t put crap on the field and expect to sell out every game.

  47. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    How’d we get here? smh
    —————–

    Long term contracts to older players – let this be a warning to the organization before handing 8 years to Cano.

    Having said that – I can’t get too weepy over the loss of a couple of role players.

  48. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Not that we need to go crazy, but we do need to free up the purse strings more than we were planning.”

    ————–

    That’s basically what the Mets told Sandy according to Wilpon

  49. G. Love December 5th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    It’s just mind boggling to me to spend the money to put a quality pitching staff together and completely neglect the offense & that was before Arod was diagnosed.

    They’re taking the fan temperature right now.

    Be prepared for a severe overpay in a trade that’s supposed to shut us all up.

    They will not spend on free agents unless the media voices the fan’s discontent to the point that it becomes the story and then they’ll get what’s left of Swisher or Hamilton if it’s not too late.

  50. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    @BryanHoch: Scott Boras said Brian Cashman told him he’s unable to chase players he wants right now. Working with ownership “to see where he can go.”

    ————–

    This is the type of sh*t we’re complaining about for all those misconstruing the amount of complaining on here to be simply about not signing a guy like Chavez.

    Let’s say you buy into the fact that nothing done last year was meant to effect this year because… why bother, I guess. But let’s just go on this off season and erase all the planning that could have taken place last year to help us out this year and next year….

    It is now being reported that the Yankees basically had no fiscal plan coming into this off season. None. Cash wants players, but has to keep going back to ownership to get parameters.

    All of the people on here officially care more about the Yankees than anyone that belongs to the ownership group! WE take time from our jobs, families, and television watching schedules to figure out how this team can be a winner – even ON a budget – but they didn’t think formulating any sort of plan once they got swept out of the playoffs was worth their time.

    How…? HOW?

    Man, even Jennifer Lopez is better than this. The Yankees are getting out maneuvered by Jenny from the f*cking block.

    I am hoping and praying Brian brings me back by making something happen…. livin’ on a prayer is the best we can do. Prove me/us/all the doubters wrong. PLEASE. Please make this some rouse to throw us off the scent.

    I need this to all be a bad dream.

  51. tucker December 5th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Chip, the “kick in the rear” theory may be valid.

    By now, Cashman must understand that wait-it-out approach to get players to lower salary demands is not working in this market. It worked last year — and the year before — but not this year.

    It could be a sign that teams are flush with cash and willing to spend.

    Or maybe it is a sign that the “name” veterans such as Chavez, Raul, etc., no longer see the Yankees as a guaranteed playoff ticket — and a shot at the World Series. They believe they can land with other teams that are just as likely to reach the playoffs.

    We’ll see what happens with Ibanez and Ichiro.

  52. oak2455 December 5th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Wow what a day now I know what a Met fan feels like………Sh*T!!!!!!

  53. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Chip December 5th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    How’d we get here? smh
    —————–

    Long term contracts to older players – let this be a warning to the organization before handing 8 years to Cano.

    ——————————————–that is why they will have to trade him

  54. coney1 December 5th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    I’m going to gather a petition and send an email to all of the beat writers on behalf of as many fans on these blogs as I can. I will write it up and post it here and if any of you want to attach your name I can arrange that. Perhaps the beat writers will get the message to Hal.

  55. oak2455 December 5th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    I’ll sign Coney

  56. oak2455 December 5th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    this is pathetic and Cash doesn’t know who much he can spend…….hilarious !!!!!

  57. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Please get someone. Anyone. Preferably someone that helps fill a hole for more than just a year. Because there will be more holes next year. Maybe the same ones we have this year.

    Actually… I have to say, if I was more confident that this team would resign guys like Kuroda and Andy if they had good 2013 performances and wanted to return, I’d be less anxious. But I dunno that they’ll do that. And everything they’re not doing this year seems like it’s foreshadowing something even more… exhausting.

  58. coney1 December 5th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    oak2455 December 5th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    I’ll sign Coney

    Give me tonight to compose it. I’m still in the process of gathering the email addresses of the beat writers. So far I have Chad’s email, Joel Sherman, Ken Davidoff, and Mark Feinsand. If anybody can help with the others, it will be greatly appreciated. I am looking for Tyler Kepner, Jack Curry, Michael Kay, Bryan Hoch, David Waldstein, Erik Boland, Wally Matthews, and Andrew Marchand.

  59. Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    It seems really irresponsible for Cashman to give Kuroda and Pettitte $27m when he knew he was on a very short budget. I don’t know if he thought that Chavez and Ibanez would sign for pennies but you can’t completely ignore one part of the team. They had to bring Kuroda back but $12m is a lot for Petttite when the offense is in shambles. What a mess.

  60. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    On the up side.. Derek Jeter looks sessy as hell at this presser. The loss of Chavez took our average attractiveness down a notch but I’m sure Jeter and Cano carry the team in that category this year.

    @BruceBeck4NY

    Derek Jeter-have u thought about being a Santa? “The Post put me into a Santa suit a few days ago.” http://lockerz.com/s/266716709

  61. blake December 5th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    @MMaggiNYBD: @Joelsherman1 Yankees fans are starting to revolt. Many of the diehards on lohudblogs (Chad Jenning’s blog), RiverAve Blues, etc

  62. Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Dan Roche?@RochieWBZ

    Source: #RedSox GM Ben Cherington and Mgr John Farrell met w/FA OF Josh Hamilton off-site Monday at the Winter Meetings in Nashville #wbz

  63. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    @RochieWBZ

    Source: #RedSox GM Ben Cherington and Mgr John Farrell met w/FA OF Josh Hamilton off-site Monday at the Winter Meetings in Nashville #wbz

    A ploy… just a ploy…

  64. blake December 5th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    @BNightengale: The #Rangers say they will give Josh Hamilton a four-year contract, but won’t go to five years with the free-agent center fielder.

  65. jmills December 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Hi Yankee fans! Getting cold, but at least no snakes :)

  66. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Yankee fans will not settle for anything less than a vg product on the field, anything less will cost them….

  67. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    @MMaggiNYBD: @Joelsherman1 Yankees fans are starting to revolt. Many of the diehards on lohudblogs (Chad Jenning’s blog), RiverAve Blues, etc

    —————

    Lol, is MMaggiNYBD anyone important or just a fan trying to let the writers know they’re onto something..? They’re gonna create a lot of buzz by bashing the team. Negative stories sell more than positive ones, that’s for sure.

    It couldn’t have been much fun killing the Mets.. but going after the Yanks will sell ALL the papers.

  68. Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    The deals are crazy this off season…
    ————-

    Jon Heyman?@JonHeymanCBS

    blanton gets 2 yrs, $15M

  69. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    @MMaggiNYBD: @Joelsherman1 Yankees fans are starting to revolt. Many of the diehards on lohudblogs (Chad Jenning’s blog), RiverAve Blues, etc

    ———————–

    *plays Bane’s theme from Dark Knight Rises*

  70. blake December 5th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    They were taking Granderson for Dickey on MLBnetwork

  71. blake December 5th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    “Lol, is MMaggiNYBD anyone important or just a fan trying to let the writers know they’re onto something..?”

    Just a fan I think….it’s hard to tell on the twitter machine

  72. RMS December 5th, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    What will get the owners attention is all the empty seats at YS.
    Yankees look, money wise, to be on the same plane as the Mets.

  73. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
    They were taking Granderson for Dickey on MLB network

    ————————————-really ? thats not going to help

  74. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Are we diehards?

  75. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    When Martin says the Yankees didn’t have the ability to offer him a contract, it was true.

    Now, Cashman is begging for some Schierholtz money. Well run organization.

    Coney, everyone knows I will sign, as the leader of the pissed off crowd.

  76. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    oak2455 December 5th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    this is pathetic and Cash doesn’t know who much he can spend…….hilarious !!!!!
    ——————–

    I don’t think it’s a question of not knowing how much he can spend, I think it’s that they didn’t anticipate the market being as screwy as it is – case and point:

    2 years $15M for Blanton
    3 years $20M for Scutaro
    2 years $18M for Russ Martin
    3 years $39M for Victorino

    These contracts are really awful and they’re screwing up the market

  77. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    It’s too bad Dickey doesn’t play 3B… but honestly it might not be the worst idea ever. We do need pitching for next year and Dickey comes cheap.

  78. blake December 5th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    “————————————-really ? thats not going to help”

    Id do it if we signed HAMILTON first…..especially if he’d sign that 2/26 deal the mets won’t do….dickey is good and can throw bunches of innings

  79. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Probably would have been a better idea to do that and not resign one of Andy or Kuroda so they could buy someone else.

  80. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    The lohud diehards are revolting! Join the revolution!

  81. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    But again – let’s not get too upset over the Yankees missing out on Martin, Chavez or Keppinger – these aren’t difference making players. Of the three, Chavez is the only one I would have signed for the price he ended up getting.

  82. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    The lohud diehards are revolting! Join the revolution!

    ————————

    Team Greedy on the rise

  83. jmills December 5th, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    As an outsider this event with your team is strange, we all just expect you to be primo.

  84. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Tar December 5th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Are we diehards?

    ——————

    We’re still here now.. and we will be next year.. so yes. Yes we are. And it feels sorta like a punishment lol.

    I never thought I’d feel the same way about the Cowboys as I do the Yankees… the only thing that’s kept me sane about how awful the Cowboys are is that at least the Yankees were always being great.

    Without the Devils.. who actually had a good club.. I’m in a giant vat of suck right now.

  85. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    I would sign Hamilton and then deal Cano and Granderson for the best packages available. Try to use two players to fill multiple spots.

  86. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    The lohud diehards are revolting! Join the revolution!

    ————————

    Team Greedy on the rise

    ————–

    Le Resistance!!!!!!!!!!!

  87. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Chip says:
    December 5, 2012 at 8:02 pm
    I would sign Hamilton and then deal Cano and Granderson for the best packages available. Try to use two players to fill multiple spots.

    Too bold for the Yanks

  88. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    It’s gotta bite Cash’s ass just a little bit that he got a bunch of control and now doesn’t have the authority to do a damn thing.. I’m not sure how much he cares exactly, but you’d think it’d hurt him just a little.

  89. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    @DanBarbarisi: Heard from people close to Eric Chavez that fact he lives in AZ was big factor: “Home and family were instrumental in his decision,” says 1

    Well good for Eric….I like Chavy…

  90. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    The lohud diehards are revolting! Join the revolution!

    ————————

    Team Greedy on the rise

    ————–

    Le Resistance!!!!!!!!!!!

    —————–

    *kneels*

    *Darth Queen of Team Greedy our forces are growing stronger by the hour. First Lohud then RAB then the world. lol

  91. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
    Chip says:
    December 5, 2012 at 8:02 pm
    I would sign Hamilton and then deal Cano and Granderson for the best packages available. Try to use two players to fill multiple spots.

    Too bold for the Yanks

    ——————————————————————that would be a great plan

  92. randy l. December 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    austinmac-

    cashman seems to be between a rock and a hard place.

    were the yankees blindsided by the new CBA or were they simply asleep at the wheel?

    why trade for granderson and give up cost controlled young players if you can’t sign granderson when he does well. so i have to assume the yankees made the trade for granderson believing they could sign him if he did well.

    now we know they can’t afford him. so the implication is they have been caught by surprise . had they known they were going to be under a 2014 i restriction obviously they don’t make the granderson trade.

    so basically they were caught unaware.

    my question is how does that happen?

  93. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    “But again – let’s not get too upset over the Yankees missing out on Martin, Chavez or Keppinger ”

    This is a “process” that has been going on for quite some time now.

    Even though Chavez and Martin should have been well within the Yankees budget, this is not the only reason why many are so upset.

  94. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Chip,

    Under your hypothesis, Cashman is getting more authority for Youkilis or Reynolds signing? Does he need authority, do you think, contract by contract?

  95. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Guys, I’m gonna be watching the XFactor and following MLB Network.. so I might mix up who I’m yelling about. If I mention anything about Demi Lavato’s eyebrows on here, just ignore it (they put the VATO in Lavato).

  96. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    @BryanHoch: Cano, Yankees won’t discuss extension until after ’13 season http://t.co/gxnWdtK4

    This sounds smart. Lets bid against the Dodgers and all these others teams who won spend money and see how high it can go!!!

  97. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    OAA – Seriously, lets all try and stare at a tree and set that sh*t on fire.

    At least we’d be being productive.

  98. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Randy,

    They had to know the CBA parameters long before it was signed. I believe as others have said it is being used as a payroll reduction justification.

    Knowing what was coming, they did nothing. Know-nothing’s like people on this board saw it and recommended solutions. Instead, they did nothing. I don’t believe these guys have a clue about operating on a lower budget.

    This is going to end very badly.

  99. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    @BryanHoch: Cano, Yankees won’t discuss extension until after ’13 season http://t.co/gxnWdtK4

    This sounds smart. Lets bid against the Dodgers and all these others teams who won spend money and see how high it can go!!!

    ——————–

    I’m preparing myself when the lose Cano. I always felt he would be brought back no matter what but who knows now.

  100. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    @BNightengale: The #Dodgers are starting to wonder whether Greinke really wants to live in LA, or prefers the quieter enviroment in Texas with the #Rangers

  101. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    Another example of stupidity is not finding out what Cano would cost. Now, friends it is a draft pick for Cano.

  102. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    @BryanHoch: Cano, Yankees won’t discuss extension until after ’13 season http://t.co/gxnWdtK4

    ———————–

    Do they understand what ‘extension’ means..? Because what they’re talking about is him being a free agent, give or take a couple weeks.

  103. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    OAA – Seriously, lets all try and stare at a tree and set that sh*t on fire.

    At least we’d be being productive.

    —————-

    Sure it can’t hurt.

    Maybe we’ll turn into those kids from the movie Chronicle.

  104. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    randy l. December 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    austinmac-

    cashman seems to be between a rock and a hard place.

    were the yankees blindsided by the new CBA or were they simply asleep at the wheel?

    ——————–

    I agree.

    And coming from you, a pretty up-front critic of Cash, I think that says a lot.

    We’re directing a lot of our frustration at Cash but ultimately we know he’s having his hands tied on some level this off season.

  105. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    I was thinking more ‘Children of the Corn’ style but whatever works, OAA.

  106. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    COTC can work as well :D

  107. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    “I would sign Hamilton and then deal Cano and Granderson for the best packages available. Try to use two players to fill multiple spots”

    Granderson yes, Cano no. I feel if you are going to go all in and sign Hamilton, you’re best shot is with Cano.

    If you’re are not going to go all in, and plead poverty, than you might as well trade everybody you can and re-stock. I would be ok with a re-building year under those circumstances.

    Playing the middle and signing someone like Reynolds and playing them over a Nunez is not going to make me happy. The only exception is at catcher. I don’t think you can start a rookie like Romine at catcher.

  108. Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    There is no future in Cashman’s dreaming.

  109. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Maybe we can get Bald Vinny to print up some disparaging shirts about the budget…. It’d feel like a very small victory but I’ll take any victory right now.

  110. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Chip,

    Under your hypothesis, Cashman is getting more authority for Youkilis or Reynolds signing? Does he need authority, do you think, contract by contract?
    —————————-

    It’s my hope that the conversation is more along the following lines:

    “Given the contracts that have been handed out already, I’m going to have to overpay where we were comfortable for role players. If we’re going to have to spend more than we want to, better to do it for better players than for patch work guys.”

    In other words – he could be asking for the money to go and get Josh Hamilton. Especially if Hamilton’s market is within 4 or 5 years as opposed to 7 or 8.

  111. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    @BNightengale: The #Dodgers are starting to wonder whether Greinke really wants to live in LA, or prefers the quieter enviroment in Texas with the #Rangers

    ———————

    That’s interesting.. but all it means if they don’t sign Greinke is that they’ll be able to give Cano $300 million.

  112. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    austinmac –

    Basically I think Cashman is looking at the landscape and seeing that teams are buying up role players like sailors on leave in Vegas spend money on booze and women. If he’s going to overspend he doesn’t want to do it on a guy like Jeff Keppinger or Russ Martin. He wants to do it on a difference maker.

  113. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    The longer this off season lasts the more posters have come to the conclusion that we should, in fact, just sign Josh Hamilton lol.

    Well done, blake. You were instrumental in this.

  114. coney1 December 5th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Hard to fault Chavez for wanting to play close to home. He probably only has 1-2 years left. Besides, who would want to buy a ticket on the Titanic when they can take a staycation at home!

  115. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Tar December 5th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    “I would sign Hamilton and then deal Cano and Granderson for the best packages available. Try to use two players to fill multiple spots”

    Granderson yes, Cano no. I feel if you are going to go all in and sign Hamilton, you’re best shot is with Cano.
    ///

    Tar, indeed. Hamilton theoretically represents that second bat to revitalize the middle of the order. It’s somewhat superfluous to add him, but subtract Cano.

  116. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Marchand’s article irritated me by suggesting we fans are overly demanding. I suggest is is not inappropriate or the Yankees to have major league capable players at C, 3B, RF and DH. Right now they have none of these, and are acting as if they have extremely little money to fix the situation.

    We’re not talking about the 5th outfielder or a sixth inning pitcher, these are 44% of the lineup. No, we ask for too much. Right.

  117. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    “Tar, indeed. Hamilton theoretically represents that second bat to revitalize the middle of the order. It’s somewhat superfluous to add him, but subtract Cano.”

    Yep. Cano wasn’t enough last year and Hamilton wont be enough this year.

    But together :D

  118. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Chip, I will grasp your thought as one last hope.

  119. randy l. December 5th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    austinmac-

    so if the CBA and 2014 is just being used as a smokescreen to lower payroll, when did hal and co decide this?

    why did they make the grandersn trade? why trade melky? why not sell going young to fans and present a team that while lower in salaries had hopes for the future?

    i think they really did not know they wouldn’t be signing granderson when they made that trade. you add melky, montero, austin jackson, and ian kennedy to the yankees right now and things look a lot different.

    i guess i’m asking when did the yankees pull the plug on trying to sign their good players like granderson , swisher, and even martin.

    it does appear they are throwing in the towel on one hand , but they did sign mariano , pettitte, and kuroda to hefty contracts on the other hand, so i have no idea what’s going on.

    there is a lot of time before the season starts and even a lot of time to adjust once it starts, but the yankees are doing little at the present to build excitement about 2013

  120. oak2455 December 5th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Joel Sherman ?@Joelsherman1
    Told Greinke’s wife is former Dall #Cowboys cheerleader and could influence desire get back to Tex. score1 for #Rangers
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  121. Locke December 5th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    austinmac says:
    December 5, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    Marchand’s article irritated me by suggesting we fans are overly demanding. I suggest is is not inappropriate or the Yankees to have major league capable players at C, 3B, RF and DH. Right now they have none of these, and are acting as if they have extremely little money to fix the situation.

    We’re not talking about the 5th outfielder or a sixth inning pitcher, these are 44% of the lineup. No, we ask for too much. Right.

    ———-

    Also, when the cheapest bleacher seats cost $39 we should get a premium product. I can sit behind the dugout for $39 at Braves, Rays, or Marlins games.

  122. oak2455 December 5th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    If Greinke goes to Tex…..the Dodgers sign everybody else!!!!

  123. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Although I don’t read him closely, Marchand’s spots on ESPN-Radio which I occasionally run into make it seem like he’s not all that smart. Sherman can be grating, but he’s bright enough.

  124. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @Joelsherman1: Told Greinke’s wife is former Dall #Cowboys cheerleader and could influence desire get back to Tex. score1 for #Rangers

    If Greinke signing with Texas means we get Hamilton then so be it

  125. oak2455 December 5th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Blake you believe that?? I hope so

  126. oak2455 December 5th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Joel Sherman ?@Joelsherman1
    #Rangers prefer signing Greinke, trading for Upton. That would mean passing on Hamilton
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  127. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Tar,

    I would rather have Hamilton (warts and all) at 4 years than Cano at 8 and if I’m not re-signing Cano at the end of the year then I want to maximize my return for him by dealing him for a package of guys who can come in and contribute instead of seeing him walk away for a draft pick.

    Sign Hamilton

    Three team deal:

    Washington gets: Robinson Cano and John MacDonald
    Arizona gets: Eduardo Nunez, Adam Warren and Danny Espinosa
    Yankees get: Aaron Hill, Mike Morse, Anthony Rendon, Chris Johnson

    Separate trade:
    Philly gets Curtis Granderson
    Yankees get Carlos Ruiz

    Yankee lineup:

    Jeter – SS
    Hill – 2b
    Tex – 1b
    Hamilton – LF
    Morse – RF
    Johnson – DH
    Romine – C
    Adams – 3b
    Gardner – CF

    When Alex comes back (assuming everyone’s healthy) he and Johnson can split 3b and when Ruiz comes back from suspension he moves in behind the plate.

  128. LGY December 5th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Hopefully Texas signs Greinke so the Yankees have a chance at Hamilton

  129. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    I didn’t realize how small the gap was in the luxury tax costs… man…

  130. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    “Well done, blake. You were instrumental in this.”

    I’m very persistent….but the Yankees never listen to me…. Didn’t with Holliday, didnt with Beltran, didnt with Headley at the deadline….etc

  131. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Cashman said they had the ability to do a big deal. It doesn’t seem like it. What is going on? Why say that and not be rumored to be on anyone who isn’t a questionable starter?

    Then, come to the winter meeting and make no offers to anyone apparently. Lack of authority from Hal? It seems so.

    It strikes me as very dysfunctional. Very curious.

  132. LGY December 5th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Why on earth would the Phillies trade Ruiz for Granderson?

  133. Pat M. December 5th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Tin Cup…….I felt that after coming off the 09 World Championship and with the loss of Damon and Matsui the Yankee Front Office felt that with Granderson they could win at least one more WS if not even two……The loss of Cliff Lee in 2010 was a blow on two fronts…….2012 in my mind was their last shot for the Jeter Era club to win it all……..This looks a little like the decline of 65 in many ways…….You in Florida ??? Hitting the little white ball around ??

  134. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    “it does appear they are throwing in the towel on one hand , but they did sign mariano , pettitte, and kuroda to hefty contracts on the other hand, so i have no idea what’s going on.”

    It would be deadly to their bottom line to appear to be throwing in the towel. Yankee fans have been abandoning ship by hundreds of thousands in attendance over the last couple of years. Those players you mention MO, Pet, and Hiro are all 1 year deals.

    The Yankees are so lucky the Mets have really sucked. Otherwise I could see a fan reversal like what happened in the 80′s.

  135. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Chip, I will grasp your thought as one last hope.
    ———————-

    If that’s the plan they have to do it quickly while impact players are still available.

  136. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    josh Hamilton….lot of homes for sale in Greenwich

  137. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Maybe this is just Greinke’s agent trying to squeeze another $20 mil out of the Dodgers lol…

    Everyone knows wives are just props and there to be seen and not heard.

    :D

  138. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    LGY December 5th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Why on earth would the Phillies trade Ruiz for Granderson?
    —————-

    Why would someone give Joe Blanton a 2 year deal or Jeremy Guthrie a 3 year deal? If you’re looking for logic you came to the wrong place now drink my Kool-Aid or I will point out that David DeJesus is probably available!

  139. randy l. December 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    what we need is a hidden video showing hal telling hank that 47% of yankee fans are just takers and follow the team and pay nothing for this privilege :)

  140. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Pat M,

    To take rare credit, I think I made the first comparison to 1965 some weeks ago. The aging team struck my childhood memories of Mantle limping, unproductive trades and no help on the way with an overly corporate mentality. I hope I am wrong. That was no fun.

  141. Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    God save the Yankees. We mean it, man.

  142. Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    If Greinke signing with Texas means we get Hamilton then so be it
    ——————-

    If Greinke signs with Texas that probably means that Boston signs Hamilton. Did you forget that the Yanks don’t have any money? If the Yanks didn’t even meet with him when he came to the meetings I doubt they are even involved with him.

  143. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    The only cold water I will pour on the Hamilton stuff is that if the Yankees were scared off by Greinke’s personality then you can only imagine how they would feel about Josh’s demons.

  144. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    josh Hamilton & NYC….

  145. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    They’re going to rob the cradle again for some short-term glitz.

  146. Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    Yay they made an offer!!! Woohoo!!
    ———-
    Joel Sherman?@Joelsherman1

    Nate Schierholtz has an offer in hand from #Yankees, I believe it is 1st firm offer NYY has made to a position plyr this offseason

  147. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    God save the Yankees. We mean it, man.

    —————

    I think this is a job for… Obama.

  148. randy l. December 5th, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    pat m-

    i’m still on cape cod , but i played yesterday in nice 55 degree weather.
    how’s your game coming? finished all your rehabs?

  149. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    randy l. December 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    what we need is a hidden video showing hal telling hank that 47% of yankee fans are just takers and follow the team and pay nothing for this privilege :)
    ///

    LMAO.

  150. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    Yay they made an offer!!! Woohoo!!
    ———-
    Joel Sherman?@Joelsherman1

    Nate Schierholtz has an offer in hand from #Yankees, I believe it is 1st firm offer NYY has made to a position plyr this offseason

    —————-

    Aww.. like the first day of school, I’m feelin like a proud Mama.

  151. Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Joel Sherman?@Joelsherman1

    Wouldn’t be surprised if #Yankees RF in this tighter fiscal world turns out to be LH/RH platoon of Schierholtz/Scott Hairston

  152. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Chip

    Honestly I don’t know half those players well enough to even know if I like that trade or not, but I see where your going. And it’s not a bad idea.

    For me I would rather go for broke with both Hamilton and Cano. If Cano walks, so be it take the pick.

    But if I’m being really honest I want to beat the crap out of the Sox as pay back for all those years of Manny and Papi back to back. :D

  153. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Joel Sherman?@Joelsherman1

    Nate Schierholtz has an offer in hand from #Yankees, I believe it is 1st firm offer NYY has made to a position plyr this offseason

    Blah

  154. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Cashman got authority for Schierholtz. Is he better than whoever will be dropped from the 40 man?

  155. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Captain Clutch says:
    December 5, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    Joel Sherman?@Joelsherman1

    Wouldn’t be surprised if #Yankees RF in this tighter fiscal world turns out to be LH/RH platoon of Schierholtz/Scott Hairston

    That’d be fine so long as Hamilton is in LF or Headley is at 3B

  156. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Joel Sherman?@Joelsherman1

    Wouldn’t be surprised if #Yankees RF in this tighter fiscal world turns out to be LH/RH platoon of Schierholtz/Scott Hairston
    —————–

    I would be. In an offseason where Jonny Gomes gets 2 years and 10M Scott Hairston can do a lot better – and can also probably find a team that would offer him more guaranteed playing time.

  157. Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Shame, I’m guessing you didn’t get the reference. I may be even more badly out of step with the crowd here than I thought. :neutral:

  158. joeman December 5th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Nate Schierholtz isn’t making me jump up and down

  159. LGY December 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    The thought of Nate Schierholtz being announced as the starting RFer on Opening Day is nauseating

  160. The Return of Stoneburner December 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Lost .. ?@LostNYY
    @TarYank6 Forget it, I gave my word. If I did that you’d peg it in a flash I am sure. If this deal blows up, I think we are screwed.

  161. randy l. December 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    “I think this is a job for… Obama.”

    shame-

    actually expansion of medicare benefits could come in handy considering how old most of this team is :)

  162. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Shame, I’m guessing you didn’t get the reference. I may be even more badly out of step with the crowd here than I thought. :neutral:
    ///

    Something is Rotten in the Yankee front office.

  163. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    LGY December 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    The thought of Nate Schierholtz being announced as the starting RFer on Opening Day is nauseating
    ————–

    Maybe the Yankees will be facing a lefty that day and so he’ll be on the bench

  164. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    Nate Schierholtz has a career reverse split. So if they find a righty with a reverse split they will be all set. :shock:

    How is he defensively?

  165. Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    At least Mr. Prufrock gets it.

    Now how about spilling the beans on who the Yankee spy in the alternate time zone is?

  166. yankeefeminista December 5th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Shame, I’m guessing you didn’t get the reference. I may be even more badly out of step with the crowd here than I thought.
    ///

    Something is Rotten in the Yankee front office.
    ____
    Anarchy in the City!

  167. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    I’m just old :D

  168. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    Fem gets it ;)

  169. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    @Joelsherman1: Think how crazy #Yankees financial world is that Nate Schierholtz is 1st position player to get offer from them. #zany

  170. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Nope.

    Like you, I drop hints but never tell. It’s up to the crowd to piece it together.

  171. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Just to be a glass half full kind of guy Jose Bautista didn’t become a good offensive player until he was 29; Mike Morse was 28…so maybe Scheirholtz comes here and turns his career into something special.

  172. Pat M. December 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Austinmac……I too remember those dark days of the late 60′s, and I like many couldn’t understand what was happening and why ???? Seems to me that they’re just bandaiding the situation before the other shoe falls next winter……You made a great point and I’m seeing this your way as of late……Cup, I’m playing in a Toys for Tots best ball scramble this weekend and I think I’m in Timmy Salmon’s foursome…….I’ll be reinventing my game after the new year and be ready by March 1st for real golf…….The days of being a 12 are well over but I’m hoping for being a solid 18 by June

  173. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    Actually it’s more like a reverse even. Pretty close numbers from both sides. With a lot fewer ab’s vs lefties.

  174. Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    Tar, Nate was very able defensively in the tough RF in SF. Nary a Swisheresque maneuver in my recollection.

    Nate would have to mean no Ichiro for sure, however.

  175. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    If they sign Nate then can’t see Ichiro back…..Id rather have Ichiro

  176. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    So, who’s the next GM of the Yankees?

  177. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    I actually just thought it was a reference to God save the Queen but if Yankee fans are petitioning God I’m totally down with that!

  178. yankfan1 December 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    I’m fine with a platoon at RF… not so much for 3 positions.

  179. MTU December 5th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Had a busy day today.

    Just getting caught up on the news.

    Too bad we couldn’t get the Kepp/Chavez platoon.

    That would have worked nicely.

    Still might have a chance for AJ P.

    And a big trade is always possible.

    Nate and Scott for RF ?

    Lot’s of platoons.

    Sounds very Miltiary.

    :)

  180. blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Chip says:
    December 5, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    Just to be a glass half full kind of guy Jose Bautista didn’t become a good offensive player until he was 29; Mike Morse was 28…so maybe Scheirholtz comes here and turns his career into something special.

    Maybe Arod will grow new bionic legs and return to form as well!!

  181. Tar December 5th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    “Nary a Swisheresque maneuver in my recollection.”

    aww. I’m going to miss those barrel roles that turned singles into a doubles. :D

  182. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    If they sign Nate then can’t see Ichiro back…..Id rather have Ichiro
    ——————

    eh – they signed Tex when they already had Swisher and Nady for 1b/RF

    Besides, if they trade Granderson then they’ll still need another OF after moving Gardner to CF

  183. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    They’re calling us the coupon clippers on mlb network smh

  184. blake December 5th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    To steal a line from David Cameron today…..I hope they offered Nate a 7 figure deal of all zeros

  185. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    I actually just thought it was a reference to God save the Queen but if Yankee fans are petitioning God I’m totally down with that!
    ///

    I don’t think he has all that much leverage. They fired him as pitching coach once.

  186. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    blake December 5th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Chip says:
    December 5, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    Just to be a glass half full kind of guy Jose Bautista didn’t become a good offensive player until he was 29; Mike Morse was 28…so maybe Scheirholtz comes here and turns his career into something special.

    Maybe Arod will grow new bionic legs and return to form as well!!
    ———————-

    They have the technology – they can rebuild him, make him stronger, faster and better.

  187. blake December 5th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    “Besides, if they trade Granderson then they’ll still need another OF after moving Gardner to CF”

    Trading Grandy only makes sense if they replace him with somebody as good as him or better first…..they can’t afford to lose more offense if they want to win next year…..

  188. Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Of course Fem gets it, I have yet to see any piece of information, trivia, or esoterica that only one of you picks up on.

    I don’t think the crowd is going to pick up on who the transparent Yankee spy in the alternate time zone is, but of course I could be wrong. So far the crowd has put forward one guess that was so far off I think the crowd might not have understood the question.

    The other blind rant targets were much easier to identify.

  189. Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Shame, my apologies if you actually got it. I must have fallen for your misdirection.

  190. blake December 5th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

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  191. randy l. December 5th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    “Anarchy in the City!”

    yankeefeminista-

    how about an occupy yankee stadium movement.

    set up tents right behind home plate :)

  192. LGY December 5th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    The Yankees biggest need heading into this offseason was upgrading the offense.

    So far they’ve lost their starting C, RF, and 3B and the first offensive player they’ve made an offer to is Nate Scheiwwhatever

  193. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Of course Fem gets it, I have yet to see any piece of information, trivia, or esoterica that only one of you picks up on.
    ///

    Must be all that Trenton Thunder.

  194. chicken little December 5th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    freddy wilpon has to be loving this. he at least had an excuse — he gave madoff all his money — if hal’s budget plan backfires, there will be no more mention of the cheap mets. it will all be how hal’s shortsited desire to save $50 million in luxury taxes and revenue sharing cost him $100 million in ticket and concession sales.

  195. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    I don’t know if I did but I do know Cowboys fans are petitioning Obama to save America’s Team so perhaps the Yankees really do just need divine intervention.

    Of course.. if I were going to ask for anyone’s help it’d be Satan. Or Voldemort.

    Say what you want about their methods.. but they get things done.

    Also…… I still maintain Donny could be a spy. No way he’s real life. It would actually make me more comfortable with the Yankee FO if Donny were repping the team lol, at least then I’d know they still have a sense of humor.

  196. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    set up tents right behind home plate :)

    ————–

    I think as long as we can frame pitches they’ll let us stay there…

  197. blake December 5th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    @DKnobler: For all the talk about an Asdrubal Cabrera trade, one person involved said they’re no closer to deal than when they arrived at meetings.

  198. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    @DKnobler

    For all the talk about an Asdrubal Cabrera trade, one person involved said they’re no closer to deal than when they arrived at meetings.

  199. Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    LGY its so embarrassing you have to laugh. I’ve been around to other boards and some fans say relax its not like the season starts today. True it doesn’t but this isn’t the NFL. Guys cut during ST aren’t good/solid players owed a ton that the team doesn’t want to pay.

  200. austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    LGY,

    They don’t have Ibanez, the DH either.

  201. jacksquat December 5th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    At least with Schierholtz we have redundancy in Dickerson. :)

  202. blake December 5th, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    @jonmorosi: If #Nationals trade Mike Morse they would probably want package to include a top lefty reliever.

    We have boonie

  203. chicken little December 5th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    Spots in Yankee lineup as we sit here today:

    ss jeter
    lf gardner
    2b cano
    1b texeira
    cf granderson

    not horid. of course they actually need four other comptent hitters. i hope girardi stacks his lineup. at least then once every three innings the yankees have a shot at scoring a run.

    kuroda and pettite better pitch like they are 25 and not 40.

  204. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    So far the crowd has put forward one guess that was so far off I think the crowd might not have understood the question.
    ///

    Ah well, they must lack your sensoring gift. The truth must be earned. Or perhaps they’re just not interested :)

  205. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    We have boonie
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    He’s untouchable. At least, many here have told me he, alone, in exchange for Melky would have been a steal.

  206. Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Boone for Morse, Cabral & Rapada and whatever junk lefty we pick up off the waiver can be our LHRP. If Cashman can trick the Nats into thinking Boone is any good that’d be a great fleecing.

  207. Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    If the Yankees do not DFA anyone before tomorrow morning they aren’t going to be able to make any rule 5 selections. They’d have to trade for someones selection.

  208. yankeefeminista December 5th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    randy, you organize it; I’ll be there. Although it didn’t help when we occupied the grounds near OYS to try to save Gate 2. :(

    Nick, hard not to get such an obvious Sex Pistols reference.

  209. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    @DKnobler

    Yankees have contacted Jack Hannahan. Still looking for a third baseman.

  210. yankeefeminista December 5th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    I hope we don’t lose Abe Almonte in the Rule 5 tomorrow; not that he will ever get a shot with the big Club even if he could stay healthy but…

  211. PhiltheThrill December 5th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    If we lose Abe, we’ll get him back. No one can keep him on the big league roster for the year, yet.

  212. Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Of course have contacted Hannahan, he hit .244 .312 .341 .654 and no one wants him.

  213. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Honest Abe always looks pretty sharp when I see him. But he always gets hurt.

  214. LGY December 5th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Jack Hannahan? Cashman is just trolling us now.

  215. yankeefeminista December 5th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Plus Hannahan has half the big hairy monster thing down with 23% career K rates. :)

  216. coney1 December 5th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

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  217. Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Plus Hannahan has half the big hairy monster thing down with 23% career K rates.

    I guess the half he got is the hair, and left out the monster or big part where he slugs over .400 vs RHP.

  218. Chip December 5th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    maybe cash will have better luck if he explains how many credit card points hal will get by signing players

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  221. chicken little December 5th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    its at the point where i wish joel sherman or some other reporter makes up a rumor that the yankees and josh hamilton are locked in a room negotiating a 5 year $130 million contract. at least then i will have 24 hours before the rangers or red sox sign him to a 4 year $80 million deal and burst my bubble …

  222. Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Earlier in the day, Yankees president Randy Levine reiterated the organization’s stance on payroll, saying, “the goal here is very, very simple. We believe in 2014 that at $189 million dollars, which will be the highest payroll in baseball, that we can put a really quality championship team on the field. We believe that’s very doable, we believe we can do it. And it’s not that we are looking to save money, it’s not that we’re looking to not be as productive as we can . . . We think it makes us better and smart and that’s what we’re going to try and do.”

    Uh the Dodgers would like a word with you on ‘highest payroll in baseball’, also stop lying you slimy weasel you are not doing it as a thought exercise. No one would run some game like this at the worst possible time. “Our desire to be more efficient just happened to coincide with the timing for a revenue sharing rebate system…”

  223. blake December 5th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

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    Another one bites the dust

  224. J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    If Hannahan is a Yankee I’ll not visit 161st street once this season. Wait – I take that back. I will probably go at least a few times to make sure to see Jeter/Mo/Andy before those opportunities run dry.

  225. Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

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    Earlier in the day, Yankees president Randy Levine reiterated the organization’s stance on payroll, saying, “the goal here is very, very simple. We believe in 2014 that at $189 million dollars, which will be the highest payroll in baseball, that we can put a really quality championship team on the field. We believe that’s very doable, we believe we can do it. And it’s not that we are looking to save money, it’s not that we’re looking to not be as productive as we can . . . We think it makes us better and smart and that’s what we’re going to try and do.”

    Uh the Dodgers would like a word with you on ‘highest payroll in baseball’, also stop lying you slimy weasel you are not doing it as a thought exercise. No one would run some game like this at the worst possible time. “Our desire to be more efficient just happened to coincide with the timing for a revenue sharing rebate system…”

    —————

    Wait.. is this real life?? You mean you didn’t make up that entire first paragraph..????

  226. yankeefeminista December 5th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Is this the real life?
    Is this just fantasy?
    Caught in a landslide
    No escape from reality…

  227. 4 NYY December 5th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    No Nate, no Reynolds, no Hannahan.

    Ichiro can add something with his speed and defense and maybe pick up where he left off offensively.

    A J P for 2 yrs.

    Give Adams, Nunez, & Mustelier (sp ) a shot at 3rd & RF platoon in Mustelier’s case.

    Romine to BUC

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    Cashman, according to Marchand, cannot spend ANY money without seeking permission. Nice way to run a business.

    If there were any hopes for Young, he appears to be ready to be traded to the Phils.

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