Heyman: Keppinger signs with White Sox
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 05, 2012 
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On my phone so I cannot provide a link right now, but Jon Heyman is reporting on Twitter that Jeff Keppinger has signed a three-year deal with the White Sox. Takes one of the third base options off the board.
YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK
3 yr contract , what can you do.
Un freaking believable.
Lol that’s all you can do
they are selling the team
FeinsandNYDN Keppinger to White Sox on three-year deal … The Yankees’ search continues. Chavez as part of platoon (w/Nunez maybe?) could be answer.
The Yankees were willing to pay Feliciano 8 million to do nothing, I could have stomached Keppinger for 12 million to do something.
Do you really want to sign a utility player to a 3 year contract?
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Not really – – – -
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of course not, but they keep getting outbid….
This offseason could be the worst in Yankee land that I can remember. So many holes and little progress towards anything but scrap heap players. Pitching is going to have to carry the offense next season. Geez!
Do you really want to sign a utility player to a 3 year contract?
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Not really – – – -
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of course not, but they keep getting outbid….
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ac1 December 5th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Do you really want to sign a utility player to a 3 year contract?
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Not really – – – -
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of course not, but they keep getting outbid….
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Outbid?? it feels like they’re not even trying
And so help me, if any posters come in here and bash those of us for claiming that the Yankees value defense over offense behind the dish I will pay for them to get reading comprehension lessons & shock therapy.
Cashman & Girardi, have now both come out publicly stating that.
It’s a fact. They don’t care what their catcher hits. They’ve forgotten what this franchise was built on. Berra, Dickey, Munson, Posada were behind the dish for a lot of titles for a reason and it wasn’t because the fans were positive happy loons. It was because they hit.
keppinger, people, JEFF KEPPINGER! he’s a piece of crap and he just got 3 years and you guys are wailing about it. he will be dfa’s and playing in aaa before this contract ends, that’s after he gets suspened for ped’s.
stop wailing over the loss of every piece of crap player who ever played baseball!
bash those of us for claiming that the Yankees value defense over offense behind the dish
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Bye bye Sanchez
I don’t think 2002-2008 hurt us nearly as much as the last 3 years have….
Ys, the issue isn’t losing the player. They issue is this was someone Cashman targeted and again was outbid. Im glad he was, but its the fact he targeted someone and pointed it out and then lost it.
first thing Joba says to Youk in Tampa this Spring?
The Yanks should trade Granderson even if they only get something decent back. He will be gone after next so the Yanks should get whatever they can back for him. I also don’t want to watch him strike out another 200 times next year. If Cashman has any money he should sign Ross.
This offseason could be the worst in Yankee land that I can remember.
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For my money – the 2004 offseason was terrible – for different reasons – but I don’t care how many scrubs they put in 2013 – the 2004 offseason takes the cake for me – - – -the pain from that ALCS lasted a loooong time for me – not until 2009 did I start to feel better – - – -
I would welcome Posada back to be our BUC/DH with open arms right now… I really would.
In this market though, he might command too much.
Gotta try to get Youkliss here. May have to overpay a bit on a 1 year high dollar deal that can increase value after 2013 for him.
Keppinger is good and he had a great year in 2012 but he’s not an every day 3B. If his market is 3 years I’m glad the Yankees laid off.
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Have to understand the White Sox perspective here. To wit:
They got an OPS of .624 from 3B position in 2011. Last year it was .600 even.
I wouldn’t go 3 years for him either, but I can see where the White Sox are at.
The Yanks should trade Granderson even if they only get something decent back
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For me it comes down to whether the Yanks plan to offer Granderson a QO after 2013 – - – -
I would be content if Cashman flat out said, we are going to open up the positions to the rookies and let them battle it out, while having Chavez and some bench people back up.
Let Musteiler/Adams/Nunez battle for 3B.
Let Dickerson/Mesa/Almonte/Almonte battle for RF.
Let Romine/Cervelli battle for the back up C and sign AJP….
But they aren’t saying that……
How should I set up the Yankee Fan Reintegration Program? Should I just hand people a Dodgers cap when they walk in or should we just watch Yankeeographies from the Dynasty Years on repeat?
Forget about Chavez he can’t play 3rd base everyday and still healthy. Cashman should sign Youk and Cody Ross. Youk plays good defense and he can still hit. We might not like him but he is the best option out there. Ross will also be the cheapest option. Cashman is obviously shopping at the 99 cent store.
Dan Connolly ?@danconnollysun
The Orioles are closing in on re-signing Nate McLouth accdg to multiple sources. One source called it very close.
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Mike Francesa will be heart broken
File this under ‘things that I never want to hear said on this blog again’ :
ADam December 5th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Gotta try to get Youkliss here.
Francesa won;t hear about it until he wakes up
first of all, i didnt hear cashman say he was ‘targeting’ keppinger. he talked to the guy’s reps, that’s it. had ha known the guy was looking for 3 years, he certainly wouldnt have bothered talking to him.
secondly, even if he was a ‘target’ he still isnt worth anything like a 3 year contract, so it’s still a good move not to sign him.
you people just want something to cry about.
I am also for trading Granderson and signing Cody Ross.
We need RH hitters in our lineup….
I wish we could get Cody Ross but if anything the Sox would be driving the price up on us for his services…
The Keppinger deal is only bad if its 3/39. If its 3/12 as expected then what the heck? The Yankees eat that in their sleep. They paid 12 million last year for AJ Burnett not to pitch for them. They’ll pay 8 million for him to do the same this year.
They need someone to play third and be a nice hitter. A keppinger/chavez platoon may have actually been an all-star in combined performance.
The yankees having to fret over 4 million a year is NOT good.
Just go with Chavez and Adams at 3B and for the love of god fix our OF situation.
Clutch,
While I’m not against a Youk signing (beggars can’t be choosers) his 3b defense is pretty bad right now.
That said, he plays the game hard and we’re going to need some guys in this lineup to do that.
you people just want something to cry about.
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Again it isnt about crying about something, it is about having no set direction.
Go with the young guys but own it.
I keep saying, Youk and Ludwick.
Ys Guy December 5th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
first of all, i didnt hear cashman say he was ‘targeting’ keppinger. he talked to the guy’s reps, that’s it. had ha known the guy was looking for 3 years, he certainly wouldnt have bothered talking to him.
secondly, even if he was a ‘target’ he still isnt worth anything like a 3 year contract, so it’s still a good move not to sign him.
you people just want something to cry about.
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Mac said it best you can’t expect to get everyone on a 1 yr deal. Players want security when it comes to signing a team. I’m not saying Kepp was a must at 3 yrs though
donny – sounds like you may have a tic. Get it checked out
Can’t see Youkilis agreeing to shave his signature goatee.
J. Alfred Prufrock December 5th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
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Up High and Down Hard! There is some serious “common sense” dropped by Pruf in that Post.
Bravo!!
Another one bites the dust!
@JonHeymanCBS
#yankees were in hard on keppinger. Now looking at youkilis, chavez, etc.
Keppinger at 3yrs issa disaster down-the-road. Same goes for Scutaro.
The Keppinger deal is only bad if its 3/39. If its 3/12 as expected then what the heck? The Yankees eat that in their sleep. They paid 12 million last year for AJ Burnett not to pitch for them. They’ll pay 8 million for him to do the same this year.
They need someone to play third and be a nice hitter. A keppinger/chavez platoon may have actually been an all-star in combined performance.
The yankees having to fret over 4 million a year is NOT good.
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I fear they could be on the slow road to Jack Hannahan.
” They paid 12 million last year for AJ Burnett not to pitch for them. They’ll pay 8 million for him to do the same this year.”
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this justification works for anything. why not sign bernie williams to a 5 year $20M contract then? why not jason bay?
its a ridiculous argument.
@Ken_Rosenthal
Keppinger three-year deal with #WhiteSox for about $12M.
#yankees were in hard on keppinger. Now looking at youkilis, chavez, etc.
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For whoever said Cashman was not really in on Keppinger.
If the Yankees play 1 playoff series in 2013, they will make enough money to pay for Keppinger to play for another team in 2014 & 2015.
CB,
The interesting thing about those attendance figures you posted in the last thread is I wonder if those numbers account for all the empty seats I saw at the Stadium last year. Thousands of tickets were available on Stubhub all the time last year and those are considered “sold” even though no one actually sat in the seats and scanned the tickets.
They may have sold 3.2 million tickets, but I’m not sure 3.2 million fans attended games there last year.
ac1 December 5th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
you people just want something to cry about.
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Again it isnt about crying about something, it is about having no set direction.
Go with the young guys but own it.
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Actually, I think it’s the cold hard reality that they do have a set direction and still can’t sign the guys they want lol.
Keppinger at 3yrs issa disaster down-the-road.
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No, a disaster is A-rod’s deal. In no universe is ‘oh no 4 million dollars’ a disaster for the Yankees. Its less than 1% of revenues for a given year.
I told Doc earlier on Twitter that this place is in code orange territory and it’s really only a matter of time until this powder keg blows…
G. Love,
Even though Youk’s defense did slip he is probably still a better 3rd basemen now than Arod is. Arod should be the DH going forward. I would rather Youk everyday instead of Chavez and a platoon. There really aren’t a lot of options out there…obviously.
Actually, I think it’s the cold hard reality that they do have a set direction and still can’t sign the guys they want lol.
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Yes but they still wont do extensions and still wont push hard on their prospects to come up and play, hence no set direction (other than signing 40 year old trash to 1 year deals)
this justification works for anything. why not sign bernie williams to a 5 year $20M contract then? why not jason bay?
its a ridiculous argument.
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Is Jason Bay a guy who is reasonably able to perform in a manner which helps the Yankees? Is Bernie Williams? No? Oh so they aren’t the same thing now are they?
Youkilis is reported to have multiple multi year offers. Not him either.
Don’t trade our young players to prop up this team.
Even though Youk’s defense did slip he is probably still a better 3rd basemen now than Arod is. Arod should be the DH going forward. I would rather Youk everyday instead of Chavez and a platoon. There really aren’t a lot of options out there…obviously.
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Youk would fit but he is a huge health risk too..
Is it just me or did we all give up on the Cash being stealth and about to land a huge player through FA or trade idea?
Keppinger is a good player, you get main value out of him this year, he is your utility infielder or 3B starter again in 2014 and then who cares about 2015. DFA him for all I care.
The difference between Keppinger & Jason Bay is that no one wants Jason bay.
I wonder if we lost out on Keppinger because he was told or knew Girardi would only play him vs. lefties meaning he’d only play 1/3rd of the season here at best.
This notebook platoon split nonsense is going to cost us players.
ac1 December 5th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Actually, I think it’s the cold hard reality that they do have a set direction and still can’t sign the guys they want lol.
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Yes but they still wont do extensions and still wont push hard on their prospects to come up and play, hence no set direction (other than signing 40 year old trash to 1 year deals)
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Word. You’re right ac.
“There are Yankee trolls among us, there is no doubt about it. One of them has been doing his “drive bys” from a different time zone (supposedly) in a.m. Pretty transparent, I would say.”
Who is it?????
I’m good with Dickerson in Right in if it comes down the that. Guy has his limitations but I am fan. However, this team really needs to do something at 3rd.
Maybe Keppinger wasn’t it, but then they should do something else.
G. Love December 5th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I wonder if we lost out on Keppinger because he was told or knew Girardi would only play him vs. lefties meaning he’d only play 1/3rd of the season here at best.
This notebook platoon split nonsense is going to cost us players.
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He didn’t have a position!! How could we find him playing time!! Why consider that we won’t have a 3B next year either?!!
It probably makes more sense now not to sign anyone and wait until the dust settles. Then sign 20 or so of the remaining c, 3b, of options to minor league deals and let them fight it out in spring training. Stash the losers in AAA and rotate them in and out of the 25 man roster as needed. Probably will get the same production out of them as you would out of Youklis, Chavez, Shierholtz, etc …
What is the obsession with Keppinger?
That alone is an indication of how far we have fallen.
Jerkface is correct…it is nothing but a money grab by ownership. Just because you “can” save money does not mean that you “should” save money.
The brand is built on big names, winning, splashy headlines, personalities, drama, excitement. That has been a successful business model for the Yankees. Spend big bucks to make big bucks. It works for them. Maybe its not a model that works for Kansas City or San Diego…but it works in NYC.
Nike “can” save zillions by not signing the best athletes to endorse their product. Toyota “can” save money by not advertising. But none of that would be good business. And worrying about a salary cap all of a sudden is not good business for the Yankees.
And for all the self-righteous on here criticizing the fans who are critical, here’s two things…first, if fans are “spoiled”, it is only because the Yankees themselves did the “spoiling”. And more importantly, the Steinbrenners are rich because it is the fans’ money in their pockets. It is a two way street and they don’t seem to realize that.
Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
“There are Yankee trolls among us, there is no doubt about it. One of them has been doing his “drive bys” from a different time zone (supposedly) in a.m. Pretty transparent, I would say.”
Who is it?????
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My guess is Donny.
chicken little December 5th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Is it just me or did we all give up on the Cash being stealth and about to land a huge player through FA or trade idea?
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There are still fans that are still holding out hope. Ppl have to realize he can stealth all he wants but the other team has to be willing.
Would you rather have Youk or Keppinger as your starting 3B the next 2yrs? CASE CLOSED
“There are Yankee trolls among us, there is no doubt about it. One of them has been doing his “drive bys” from a different time zone (supposedly) in a.m. Pretty transparent, I would say.”
Who is it?????
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Name names.
repost:
“Let’s just hope that Cash’s talk about preserving the farm isn’t spin. ”
It’s spin.
They’ll do “what’s necessary” to get under the “189M” cap while maintaining revenues.
Don’t think they’ll think that hard or get that hung up about trading some kids on the farm to achieve what are clear, concrete goals that everyone in the Yanks organization is being held accountable for by Hal.
I’d guess it’s been made very clear inside the organization that this is what you all need to do to keep your jobs.
“brianlopez22 says:
December 5, 2012 at 1:42 pm
potential 3-team trade:
Olt + Bauer to Indians
Asdrubal Cabrera to DBacks
J-Upton to Texas”
I think we may be lookin at
Indians: Olt and Skaggs
Dbacks: Andrus and Asdrubl
Rangers: Upton
With prospects mixed in
DONNYBROOK December 5th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Would you rather have Youk or Keppinger as your starting 3B the next 2yrs? CASE CLOSED
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Can i say neither and ask the Yanks to go out money be damned and get someone who actually can be productive?
I thought the idea of them selling the team was crazy because the Steins can just let Cash and Levine run it and take their money every year…. but if they aren’t able to commit $4 million to Kepp for a couple seasons I’m starting to really believe they’d take the $3-5 billion they can get for the team and scram.
My lone hope is that Jennifer Steinbrenner surprises us all and makes herself a player.
GLove,
They lost Keppinger because of money and years. It’s the same reason on everyone.
“My guess is Donny.”
Donny posts from a different dimension, not a different time zone. I think your guess is a poor one.
I don’t have a car. I have one of those Partridge Family Buses. You can see me coming a Mile away. A successful drive-by is Impossible.
“They may have sold 3.2 million tickets, but I’m not sure 3.2 million fans attended games there last year.”
I agree. Those two figures won’t match up.
But I doubt it matters all that much because only one of those figures influences revenues. The rest is optics on TV.
It’s a sad day when they can’t even get Keppinger.
Sad day when I’m bummed out over losing Jeff Keppinger…..honestly I think that was an ok deal for him ….certainly before than 20 million for almost 40 Marco Scutero
@Joelsherman1
Keppinger was #Yankees 1st choice as RH part of 3b platoon, so loss to #WhiteSox forces Plan B
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The Yankees have gone to plan b so many times they may be infertile
What is the obsession with Keppinger?
That alone is an indication of how far we have fallen.
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Right handed hitter, kills LHP, can play any infield position, not super old, coming off a career year…
There were plenty of reasons to want Keppinger, he would have been a big help to the team.
The Yanks have to stop with these stupid platoons. Why would a player like Keppinger sign with them to play half of the time? As soon as Cashman mentions that to the agent the Yanks are out. They are going to have a 40 man roster because every position needs a platoon.
Keppinger is a mediocre player. Adams or Mustekuer can put up Keppinger’s lifetime OPS+ for a fraction of the cost.
Keppinger has a lifetime .733 OPS and he’s a good player???? Roflmao.
He’s filler.
You can bet Hal knows exactly how much revenue they can afford to lose and still come out ahead with the payroll decrease and tax savings
The Yankees have gone to plan b so many times they may be infertile
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Oh sht nice one
Oh noes!!!! We losted out on Keppinger. Ours seasoned as doomed!!!!!
The scutaro deal is funny because the Yankees are going to pay Jeter twice as much for his age 37-40 years.
“I wonder if we lost out on Keppinger because he was told or knew Girardi would only play him vs. lefties meaning he’d only play 1/3rd of the season here at best.”
Yes….I never really thought Keppinger was going to accept the short side of a 3B platoon
Keppinger is a steal at 4 million a season. He’s not an all star, but he fills many needs, and we have many of them going forward, plays hard and can make good contact.
Getting outbid for him is an embarrassment.
No one has claimed he was the key to the off season.
But he was a piece that would’ve helped the team tremendously in many people’s eyes.
Keppinger is a mediocre player.
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He was their number target so he couldn’t have been that bad
DONNYBROOK December 5th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Would you rather have Youk or Keppinger as your starting 3B the next 2yrs? CASE CLOSED
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Youkilis hit .235 last year and is breaking down.
Yeah, I want to pay more and then watch that bum hit the DL in May. NOT
Sheffield an agent…lol
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Jon Morosi?@jonmorosi
Free agent Jason Grilli and agent Gary Sheffield are on the scene in Nashville. Sounds like they could have a deal by tonight.
Nick in SF December 5th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
“There are Yankee trolls among us, there is no doubt about it. One of them has been doing his “drive bys” from a different time zone (supposedly) in a.m. Pretty transparent, I would say.”
Who is it?????
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Glick, you’re so good at reading cadence, you surely know who I mean
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Time to go get some seriously good dumplings
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Have a lovely day.
There are still fans that are still holding out hope. Ppl have to realize he can stealth all he wants but the other team has to be willing.
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These are the people I’m targeting for the Yankee Fan Reintegration Program (YFRP).
It’s the place where card carrying members of Team Greedy can go to adjust.
Please lord give me hockey so I can focus on something else for the remainder of the winter besides how many new and unusual ways the Cowboys manage to turn the ball over.
They could have told Keppinger he’d be playing opposite Eric Chavez, the playing time will be there. They could have also made him the backup for Jeter & Cano.
Unknown,
LOL.
See you guys later.
Keppinger isn’t big and hairy enough to play for the Yankees….. He needs to K more and hit more homers
Getting outbid for Keppinger is ridiculous but in a $189M world paying that much for a bench player just isn’t going to work.
To be fair though, they likely could have traded him after 2013 if they needed to move that money.
Hal wants guys who will play here for free.
There is seriously something wrong here.
They are waiting for someone to fall in their lap, might take a while.
Cashmoney December 5th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
They’ll do “what’s necessary” to get under the “189M” cap while maintaining revenues.
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if Cashman is truly an empowered gm with vision, he should simply tell the ownership 1. don’t go half arse about this 2. get ready for the possible financial windfall that follows 3. fark this ridiculous plan you simply make more money by spending it.
The above approach, which have substantive evidences in supporting it, is simply a manifestation of greed and display little foresight in contemplating NYY’s future.
of course, this is just my opinion.
Cashmoney December 5th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
MG, i think Cashman would make a fine 7&11 mana
DONNYBROOK December 5th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
I don’t have a car. I have one of those Partridge Family Buses. You can see me coming a Mile away. A successful drive-by is Impossible.
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Lol, okay so a poor guess. Someone else take a stab at it.
http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....ing-80137/
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Dear St. Mo, please decide to come back to the Yankees for 2014 and force them to abandon their foolish ways
Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
There are still fans that are still holding out hope. Ppl have to realize he can stealth all he wants but the other team has to be willing.
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These are the people I’m targeting for the Yankee Fan Reintegration Program (YFRP).
It’s the place where card carrying members of Team Greedy can go to adjust.
Please lord give me hockey so I can focus on something else for the remainder of the winter besides how many new and unusual ways the Cowboys manage to turn the ball over.
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The Darth Queen has spoken
We’re way past plan b.
I think we’re on plan f now. F standing for whatever you want…
Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
@Joelsherman1
Keppinger was #Yankees 1st choice as RH part of 3b platoon, so loss to #WhiteSox forces Plan B
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The Yankees have gone to plan b so many times they may be infertile
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Burn!!
Well done.
Cashman probably told Keppinger’s agent that he is the 3rd basemen until Arod returns and then he is a bench guy. I really think the Yanks are fooling themselves in thinking that Arod can still play 3rd base everyday after 2 hip surgeries.
Geezz Cashman . .at least sign AJ Pierzynski to catch . . .before we miss out on a catcher too !
Keppinger career .333 .376 .487 .864 vs lhp. Call that mediocre.
I would not love to see Youk in pinstripes, but you know the guy will walk, play hard, play defense, etc. Cost of a one year expesnive contract? Once Arod back, could spell Tex at 1B. He seems to make sense if he stays healthy and let Nunez take the middle infield backup role.
Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
http://riveraveblues.com/2012/…..ing-80137/
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Dear St. Mo, please decide to come back to the Yankees for 2014 and force them to abandon their foolish ways
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It’ll be fun when Andy somehow manages to pitch over 150 innings and doesn’t get a ring so OF COURSE he wants to try his hand at it again..
“Glick, you’re so good at reading cadence, you surely know who I mean.”
No, Mr. Prufrock, I really don’t. Maybe it’s only “really transparent” to you?
I can not BELIEVE that we’re psyched to have Youk in pinstripes. The world has officially gone upside down.
Of course Youk makes sense but he costs money…and years.
Austerity don’t lie…
@WheresKernan
New Era: Free agents don’t want to come to #Yankees as much as they used to now that money is trimmed. Life is easier in other markets
@JonHeymanCBS
Many combinations discussed by 3/4 teams but word is 1 had upton going to tex, asdrubal to AZ and martin perez plus to cle
@JackCurryYES
Yankees are one of several teams involved in discussions with Kevin Youkilis’s agents. The Yanks are also talking to Eric Chavez’s reps.
hmm… ‘Nate, you are some kind of natural’ … I can almost hear Sterling’s jubilant voice echo thru out Yankeeland everywhere….
somewhere in the South, blake will be wearing a Nate or Bust T shirt.
drive byes…transparency….not judging when that’s what you do….hypocrite.
I’m surprised MO would want a farewell tour. Although, he certainly deserves it more than anyone else and I am glad that he will get one, if he decides to announce his retirement. MO retiring will be sad.
Jeter retiring will really be devastating. Childhood GONE!
1:00pm: The Orioles made an offer to Schierholtz that was turned down this morning, tweets Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun. The O’s eventually inked Nate McLouth.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#xrpWBIiqiHE5bXhi.99
Arizona is over-valuing Asdrubal. Good player, No More-No Less. I wouldn’t lose Upton to gain Asdrubal. Now, if some how they ended up with Both Asdrubal and Andrus, that would be well worth it.
Youkalis can’t play 3b anymore and I would rather lose than to sign him…..I have limits
“Now, if some how they ended up with Both Asdrubal and Andrus, that would be well worth it.”
I think that’s what Towers is trying for
Youkalis can?t play 3b anymore and I would rather lose than to sign him?..I have limits
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LOL LOL YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKK
Pierzynski , Youk and Ichiro would sell.
Hal?
If Schierholtz turned down a12 pack and a cartoon of smokes as reported, he’s a fool.
More likely to be Chavy and Nix.
Pierzynski , Youk and Ichiro would sell.
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I’d sign up for that !
I think they’ll look to Youkilis as a “big name” to satiate the back page.
It’s not going to work as seamlessly as they hope. It’s gonna take awhile for fans to warm to him.
@jonmorosi: Mariners, Indians and Red Sox among teams still in Nick Swisher market.
“I think they’ll look to Youkilis as a “big name” to satiate the back page.”
Won’t work
Well, if Towers can pull off that kinda Brinks Job, more power to ‘um.
Please, no to Youk.
Fans will be chanting YOOOOOOK from day 1.
The media isn’t helping matter much either. If they were hammering away in column after column and talk shows were constantly talking about it and they were killing them while interviewing Cash,Levine whomever maybe they would think twice about it.
This feels like when the Colts skipped town in the middle of the night except this has been going on for a couple of years now.
I don’t mind Youk. I think he can still catch the ball at 3b but with very very limited range. with kep off the board, I really hope Adam gets a chance in 13.
Might as well go old with Youk, Chavy, Pierzynski and Ichiro.
Sell the character aspect, Hal…
DONNYBROOK says:
December 5, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Well, if Towers can pull off that kinda Brinks Job, more power to ‘um.
Dbacks: Andrus and Asdrubal
Indians: Skaggs and Olt
Rangers: Upton
Would be prospects mixed in as well but I could see a deal with those being the biggest names
Youk would be the antithesis of the erudite A-Rod. Perfect
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Mike Ri December 5th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Pierzynski , Youk and Ichiro would sell.
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I’d sign up for that !
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WHAT???!!! You are the only one.
That is a disgusting team.
Ichiro, OK.
AJP and PUKE? Absurd.
If you’re going to do this just give the job to the kids.
At least we’re proud of them because they’re our talent.
Could see an Upton deal for all our prospects.
Don’t worry YF Hal won’t spend…
Maybe Swish will come back for a year if his market falls apart and he doesn’t want to play in Cleveland or Seattle
@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Mets don’t want to go two years on S. Hairston, considering other options. Catcher could come back for Dickey or in another deal.
Listening to Alderson is like talking to an undertaker.
so ichiro was all pissy that the yankees didnt rush to sign him before considering anybody els, now he must be all pissy with all the other teams b/c his name hasnt been mentioned once in nashville.
players need to know when the right time for them is and for a marginal starter/ 4th OF the time isn’t right yet.
What do you guys think about a Cano for Sterling Castro? Would that not be enough? Add another player i.e. hughes nova? We would have our next shortstop for the next decade. Put Adams at second and look for trades or farm for other spots. I would accept 2 years of rebuild mode if it meant we became competitive while being young. Time to find our next core 4. Castro, Sanchez, Heathcott,Pineda?
If I am the Rangers, I would Not give up Andrus to add Upton. Yea, so what if they got depth at that position. Andrus is far more valuable than J Upton, and I like Upton.
@JonHeymanCBS: #diamondbacks agree to terms with eric chavez.
What?
Yanks are pulling a Damon on Ichiro.
He thought he had Hal roped and tied…
Is Cashman in a drunken stupor somewhere
DONNYBROOK December 5th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
I don’t have a car. I have one of those Partridge Family Buses. You can see me coming a Mile away. A successful drive-by is Impossible.
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You can’t be a real person
Am I the only one who has an irrational fear that if we sign Youk and AJ Pizzle behind the dish, they’ll team up in the locker room to destroy the Yankees from within?
I think we can only take on one of them. I’m not sure Jeter can counter them both.
brianlopez22 December 5th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
J Alfred:
What do you do with Granderson then?
Keep him and wait for you 2014 draft pick? That’s an awesome ROI.
I personally love the Austin AND Heathcott or Williams in the OF.
2 of the 3 + Hamilton would be awesome!!!
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brian,
I’m content to try to deal Granderson, & I like your OF aplenty.
I just don’t want Cano dealt, or anyone named Sanchez. Hamilton and Cano in the lineup would heal the lineup in the short-term.
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Chavy off the table, eh?
Good afternoon, folks.
blake December 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
@JonHeymanCBS: #diamondbacks agree to terms with eric chavez.
What?
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…WHAT?!
Anyone else have a guess as to the identity of the transparent Yankee troll among us who has been doing his “drive bys” from a different time zone (supposedly) in a.m.?
blake? G Love? yankeefeminista? Anyone?
Youkalis can’t even play 3B…..I guess just play adams
@JonHeymanCBS: #diamondbacks agree to terms with eric chavez.
What?
HAHAHA. Do the Yankees even exist anymore? Have they been contracted? Cash must have something serious up his sleeve or else he’s just completely fallen asleep.
What do you guys think about a Cano for Sterling Castro?
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Cubs would almost certainly not be interested. Cheap, cost controlled MI >>>>> $20M per season MI
Running out of options…
Yankees probably wanted Chavez to come back and play for tips.
What is happening!? We just missed out on Chavez.
Our average hotness just dropped about .200 points if this is true…
Ugh, No Chavy. We’re too busy zeroing on the ex-Red Sox. This just gets better and better.
Shame, we need NHL games to help assuage our Yankee pain.
@mikeaxisa: Opening Day third baseman: Chone Figgins
wow! sanchez jumped all the way from A ball, right past ‘generation trey’, and ‘killer b’s” to a cornerstone of the franchise!
hugging has turned into worship (actually it did that last winter…)
Youks contract keeps going up for Yanks.
Forget him…
i really was hoping chavez would sign
i guess youk will be in pistripes
yankeefeminista December 5th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Ugh, No Chavy. We’re too busy zeroing on the ex-Red Sox. This just gets better and better.
Shame, we need NHL games to help assuage our Yankee pain.
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At this point I’m considering light therapy with how depressed the Yanks have made me this winter.
personally im hoping that the opening day 3bman is nunez.
“Anyone else have a guess as to the identity of the transparent Yankee troll among us who has been doing his “drive bys” from a different time zone (supposedly) in a.m.?”
Granderson is in Japan I think
@Joelsherman1
#Yankees hoped for 3b platoon to replace A-Rod Keppinger/Chavez now gone as Chavez signs with #diamondbacks as @JonHeymanCBS reported
You guys wanna know what the best part is?? The best part is the Dbacks will probably still get another 3B.
figgins can be had dirt cheap…
@BNightengale: Eric Chavez leaves #Yankees and signs one year, $3 million deal with #Dbacks
we lose chavez too?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
mick says:
December 5, 2012 at 2:31 pm
figgins can be had dirt cheap…
Because he’s terrible
dave adams better be working out like crazy
right now, it’s his job to lose
chavez had enough of this circus..
Don’t worry LoHuddites. Cashman will pick up a starting catcher and third baseman in the Rule 5 draft tomorrow.
chavez just isnt available enough, 2 games and he misses a week. i liked the guy but b/c of his unavailability we ended up with mcgehee at third base too many times.
Just let Nunez play 3rd base…..
Sign AJ to Catch
deal with RF and move on.
blake December 5th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Youkalis can’t play 3b anymore and I would rather lose than to sign him…..I have limits
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Me too. He’s a very good hitter, and if he were whole, he’d be a good signing – but the man is a broken down old nag at this point.
For crying out loud, give Adams the job, at least against LHP. They “don’t think he’s ready”, yet they threw Eduardo in LF to drown and at 3B, where he was almost as lost.
Adams will give you a yeoman-like glove at least, and he’ll hit. But they obviously aren’t going there.
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When I come back, will we have done anything?
Lets focus on the OF now. I think the best option is to go in house and use Nunez.
I’d be fine with Nunez at SS and Jeter/ARod splitting time at 3rd/DH.
Lets avoid all these retreads, platoons and scrape heap options.
Jeter to 3rd, Nunez to SS?
tucker December 5th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Don’t worry LoHuddites. Cashman will pick up a starting catcher and third baseman in the Rule 5 draft tomorrow.
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too funny…and damn sad.
Good one, folks.
Chavez got $3mm and we were his favorite place to play. Maybe Cashman does have something up his sleeve?
Cash will appear and announce that Chase Headley deal any time now
chavez just isnt available enough, 2 games and he misses a week. i liked the guy but b/c of his unavailability we ended up with mcgehee at third base too many times.
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McGehee only started 9 games at 3B for the Yankees
We will never give Adams the job. Never. We don’t trust anyone under the age of 40.
clap….clap….clap…..clap….well played Mayans, well played…..so this is what it feels to be a fan of the other teams in baseball
Mark Reynolds and Youkalis death match
I do not get the unending fascination with Chone Figgins.
He is dreadful.
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Yankeefem
i definitely prefer nunez to youkilis at 3b. no contest.
Adams will be at 2nd after Cano is traded.
They didn’t have approval to spend that much, I expect.
@Joelsherman1: On Monday #Yankees told Chavez wanted back, 48 hrs later he’s gone. #newworld
hugging has turned into worship (actually it did that last winter…)
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No different then being a Pollyanna who never questions anything they do
blake December 5th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Mark Reynolds and Youkalis death match
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hilarious!
“McGehee only started 9 games at 3B for the Yankees”
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first of all, just having mcgehee have to take up a roster spot was a fail at the 3b position. and it was a direct result of chavez’s not being available when they needed him.
secondly, that’s 9 games too many.
Maybe cash has a deal for a 3B that’s close and let Chavy know so he could sign elsewhere? Yea that’s crazy
blake, yep, Cash’s rep is on the line. I am waiting for a big move. Chone Figgins? I don’t think so.
Shame, try electroshock?! It’s outdated, but so is our model.
Leaving in a minute. Hungry. Need food. Being that we keep f’in g with a Classic, I think I will wear my Yankee camouflauge baseball cap instead of the Yankee blue one.
Arod is not coming back and Yanks are getting the insurance money.
We can afford Youk…when is Pedroia available?
McGehee only started 9 games at 3B for the Yankees and only had 16 at bats against RHP.
Don’t think Chavez had much of anything to do with his playing time.
I wonder what Gary Gaetti is doing these days?
I’m dead serious.
Get your license renewed YF.
Sweeney…
*camouflage
first of all, just having mcgehee have to take up a roster spot was a fail at the 3b position. and it was a direct result of chavez’s not being available when they needed him.
secondly, that’s 9 games too many.
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McGehee had nothing to do with Chavez.
He was acquired because the Yankees were struggling against LHP.
Corey Hart come on down
PLEASE DON’T SIGN YOUK! I’d much rather have Nunez at 3rd.
@DCameronFG: I hope the seven figures that Jason Bay is getting are all zeros.
Hah!
I bet Kelly Gruber will look great in pinstripes manning the hot corner.
Brocious and Posada would probably do one year deals
FeinsandNYDN Several reports say Eric Chavez has signed with Arizona. The Yankees’ search continues ….
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Well – can’t say they are bringing back the exact same team – - – -
And Nunez can’t play third. That is how badly we don’t want Youk.
Jeff Kent looks pretty spry on Survivor this season. You think he’d play 3b for us?
I’d take Brosius over Youk in a heartbeat. I’d friggin take Nettles.
This just in! Will Nieves agreed to a deal with the Yankees to catch, great clubhouse guy and can frame pitches with the best of them. Luis Sojo is coming out of retirement to play Third splitting time with Miguel Cairo (defense is in high demand), Tony Womack is taking his second base job back while we sit Cano and give him the silent treatment for not running hard to first and not getting his jersey(without him playing, his value dives and we can resign him at a bargain price) dirty and the answer to our power outage. You guessed it. Ruben Sierra making a comeback picked up from the Mexican league.
Dale Berra is always just a phone call away!
Brocious
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Naah – his coaching gig in the Pacific Northwest probably pays him more than what the Yanks are offering in years – - – -
Would the Yankess really let Chavy go if they didn’t have something up their sleeves?
At some point in the very near future the NY newspapers and TV will be, I would think, telling the fans and corporate owners the team no longer is interested in winning and won’t spend on it.
They have been late to the party.
They’ve got nothing else to talk about.
Didn’t Yogi play some third in his time?
Would the Yankess really let Chavy go if they didn’t have something up their sleeves?
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Maybe he didnt give them the choice?
You could always try Homer Bush – he was on a 30/30 about players losing their fortunes after baseball – though I think Homer was doing well – - — I think – - –
“No different then being a Pollyanna who never questions anything they do”
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nobody has ever called me a pollyanna to my knowledge as i question alot of things the yankees do.
however i dont panic because some career drifter/backup who had one good season (actually 121 games) last year AFTER being moved for the 4th or 5th time in his career goes for way too much money to another team.
i also don’t look at guys in a ball and assume they are future stars. most of them are future insurance salesmen.
one term i havent heard used in quite some time is ‘generational hitter’. i heard it over and over and over again last year and into this past season. i wonder what ever happened to that ‘generational hitter’ anyway…
Does Mike Pagliarulo qualify as a big lefty hairy monster still?
I wonder what Bernie Williams is up to. He’d fit right into RF
we sit Cano and give him the silent treatment for not running hard to first and not getting his jersey(without him playing, his value dives and
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he never dives…
blake December 5th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Mark Reynolds and Youkalis death match
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hilarious!
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Under the Oneil banner??
The Yankee mystique is over. Players and free agents are no longer clamoring to play for the Yankees. Especially for pennies.
At this point they might as well just let the kids fill the holes. I think we have good enough pitching to win in spite of the losses to offense… Would still like Pierzynski on a 1 year deal though.
one term i havent heard used in quite some time is ‘generational hitter’. i heard it over and over and over again last year and into this past season. i wonder what ever happened to that ‘generational hitter’ anyway…
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Oh no he didn’t – - – -
lohud Kracken awake and attack this “red/blue state” Montero basher – - – -
Cashman is on the horn with the agent for Drew Henson as we speak!
posada was a 2b in the minors. he could learn to play 3b.
Chavez gone for a measly 3 mil. Too rich for Cashman!
I hope they have a plan…
Cashman is on the horn with the agent for Drew Henson as we speak!
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Forget Drew Henson – if you are talking about quasi-former Dallas Cowboys why not go after Ryan Leaf – he will be released on parole in about twenty years – - – -(I am aware Henson was a Yankees farmhand twice at one point in the past)
Blake,
You keep asking that question. The answer is yes. Just as it was when Martin left, Keppinger signed elsewhere etc.
I am utterly convinced they had a plan to sign players for one year cheaply and thought they could. They didn’t anticipate to market.
They are completely grasping at straws now. They can’t even reach them.
bkabak Yanks a real-life Abbott and Costello routine. “I don’t know.” “Third base.”
kd,
Posada can still hit for power and BB left-handed, I’ll bet. In any case, he can give us a more professional AB than barely anyone else in the lineup can deliver.
I’d move Tex to 3B before I’d want Youk there.
ChiSox just quietly were able to sneak in and add that 3rd year for Keppy and like that he was gone. That was kind of Ninja like.
I keep thinking that Cash continues to penny pinch in order to land Hamilton. But it doesn’t look like it.
If the Yankees couldn’t match $3 million for one year of Eric Chanvez, what makes everyone think they are gonna get one of Reynolds or Youk, who will both command much more?
mick December 5th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Jeter to 3rd, Nunez to SS?
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this will not happen
Reynolds is a butcher and K’s too much.
They’re obviously going to do something. Even though they’re stupid, they’re not stoooo-pid
.
Just think, G Love, if we sign Pagliarulo it will give Yankee announcers the chance to redeem themselves and pronounce his name right.
Well I am out, but will have my trusty iPhone with me when the news breaks that we traded for Headley, but we we have zero players left to man the farm team. Keep the faith!
@Ken_Rosenthal: Just asked official involved in four-team blockbuster to describe state of talks. His reply: “Nowhere.” We’ll see.
Its time to sign someone that would put fear into other teams eyes. How much would it cost to sign Kaiser Soze?
farm teams*
Maybe we can steal someone in the rule 5 draft to play 3rd Base.
What a JOKE!!!!!
I wonder what Gary Gaetti is doing these days?
I’m dead serious.
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Funnily enough, Gaetti is managing the minor league team in Texas that Roger Clemens made his brief “comeback tour” with last season.
Mac,
Just having a hard time believing they will do nothing…..maybe they wont
@JackCurryYES: With Keppinger and Chavez signing, Yankee options at 3B continue to shrink. Still talking to Youkilis, but he wants premium $ to do 1 yr
Lol. . Premium money for an old and hurt guy that hit .230
Maybe we can steal someone in the rule 5 draft to play 3rd Base.
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We have a full 40 man roster, so we don’t even get a selection.
They’ve got nothing else to talk about.
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90 percent of sports talk currently revolves around the Jets
Yanks can sign Youk for one year at 30 billion. Make it happen, Cash.
Chavez was a part-timer anyway, NO biggie. Yanks need Full-timer at 3B. Youk know who that is.
No team seems to want Youk…he could go the Damon route.
I think we’re down to a Nix-Adams-Mustelier/Hannahan platoon now.
Or is it Bugs Bunny?
however i dont panic because some career drifter/backup who had one good season (actually 121 games) last year AFTER being moved for the 4th or 5th time in his career goes for way too much money to another team.
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are you happy with the way the offense has gone this off season so far?
I can’t root for Youkilis
Youk-Cash if you want me to take a 1 year deal and look like the elephant man you will have to pay big.
Cash-Ok. I will give you a 1 yr. 2 mil deal, a man with the iron mask mask and a lifetime supply of Joba balls.
To be fair premium money to the Yankees probably means $5M
Chavez was a part-timer anyway, NO biggie. Yanks need Full-timer at 3B. Youk know who that is.
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Chavez is more of a full timer at third than Youkilis. For one, Youkilis struggles against RHP so he should be platooned. Platooning against LHP means he only starts 30% of the time. 2, he is injury prone, especially when playing third. Just as fragile as Chavez.
If the Yankees signed Chavez & Youk, Chavez would play more. The team faces more RHP than it does LHP.
This is like simple platoon 101 stuff.
G. Love December 5th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Dale Berra is always just a phone call away!
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Yanks still haven’t forgiven him for running through stop sign and being 2nd man tagged out at plate by Fisk on national TV
Can’t wait until next year when it is the pitching instead of the offense.
Kuroda, Andy and Mo leave the team and we get outbid for Mike Pelfrey
To me one of four things happened here: (1) Yanks declined to match the $3 mil because Hal gave Cash $8 mil to fill all his holes, (2) recognizing the team is falling apart, Chavez fled, (3) Chavez is a West Coast guy and jumped at a West Coast offer, or (4) Cash is working on several trades/deals and couldn’t yet commit to Chavez (and knows no matter what, he will get the club a better 3B than Chavez).
I hope (4) is correct, would understand if (3) happened, but fear (1) and (2) combined are what happened.
Tackelberry December 5th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
G. Love December 5th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Dale Berra is always just a phone call away!
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Yanks still haven’t forgiven him for running through stop sign and being 2nd man tagged out at plate by Fisk on national TV
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i was at that game. Get used to it. For the next couple of years, we will see more of that happening.
Stop the Platoon-A-Rama. For most you guys, the solution to every positional problem is too platoon. NO SOAP
Chavez is mediocre. No loss there. We have to many of these type guys.
Yanks still haven’t forgiven him for running through stop sign and being 2nd man tagged out at plate by Fisk on national TV
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Meacham the other.
Believe it was a weekday game and I was there but you can look it up.
Every winter the Yankees are largely accustomed to making others wait. They map out some plan and rather than work on multiple deals in parallel, prioritize options and play them out in sequence on their own time table.
They could do that when they were the 800 lb gorilla that set the market. Players would wait for them.
But they are no longer that 800 lb gorilla. Yet they seem to be approaching business in the same way. It’s as if they expect the rest of the world to stop for a team that has to think long and hard about a deal that may be valued at 2 yrs 3M.
No one is going to wait for that kind of organization to act is some prescripted sequence.
A Nix/Hannahan platoon @ 3B is going to be a blast to watch.
Maybe the Yanks are holding out for Bugs Bunny to fill the RF,C,3B and DH spot
Chavez signing with AZ is quite a shock. I have to assume he took less money in order
for him to be near his home. Oh well. Can’t argue with that logic.
Stop the Platoon-A-Rama. For most you guys, the solution to every positional problem is too platoon. NO SOAP
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Then stop trumping up Youk, who is now a platoon player. There is no 3B on the market who a team can comfortably play full time. Everyone is a platoon bat.
The only non-platoon bat left is Swisher. Even Hamilton is a platoon guy.
This also just in! Andrew Jones refuses to sign with the Yankees. Quoted as saying “you wont take me down with you!”.
The Yankees have been exchanging trade proposals with other teams for a variety of players, including Curtis Granderson, tweets ESPN.com’s Buster Olney, who cautions that that’s “standard procedure.”
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#PxVDIQ1TG4CVyr0H.99
This also just in! Andrew Jones refuses to sign with the Yankees. Quoted as saying “you wont take me down with you!”.
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haha
Where’s Cody Ransom when you need him?
I remember in 2009, we had flipped off the world and were coming off our championship, we had AJax and Montero in the system, the farm had turned around and we were planting seeds…no one was going to touch us, because we were actually going to add young cost-controlled players from within to our financial might and our still-viable ML veterans….
I can still hear “Empire State of Mind…” pulsating under the metallic roof in Main.. the world was our oyster and now…?
Our big offseason score is going to be….a broken down Kevin Youkilis?
We have seen the best of our time…
If you’re going to play a platoon player full time, make sure its the lefty bat. They have the platoon advantage most often.
take a deep breath and just let next season play out with stop gaps. no need for multi-year deals right now.
scuzzles December 5th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Chavez is mediocre. No loss there. We have to many of these type guys.
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Yeah Chavez was real mediocre last year:
Overall — .281/.348/.496/.844
VS Righties — .298/.365/.543/.908
Chavez is a big short term loss for next year.
They can’t get their number targets ir even keep their own guys lol but don’t worry folks they’ll be just as good as last yr.
Ransom’s in Mil and looks like he’s free.
There was about a week this year when Chavez carried this team. Without his contribution, the Yanks would not have won the division.
Ransom’s in Mil and looks like he’s free.
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It was a joke, I don’t actually want him on the team..
Youk is one of the players I hate the most. If we sign him it will really bother me.
Don’t forget Chavy’s D. Instead we’ll sign the ever versatile Chone Figgins as our SUI/OF dude with his minus UZR…
They could do that when they were the 800 lb gorilla that set the market. Players would wait for them.
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CB,
Are you saying that we can no longer do the Wimpy business? Ill gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today?
The utter irony if we end up signing Youk…
or not ir
Hamilton a “platoon” guy??? Yea, so was Ruth.
Cashman said the other day he hopes others will wait on the Yankees before signing. My hopes are being shot down too, Brian.
Let me think . . . with the $3M saved on Keppinger and the $2M saved on Chavez. . .they could offer Hamilton a one year $5M deal. Now, I get it.
I don’t want Youk because…
(1) I can’t stand him
(2) His offense is below average
(3) His 3B defense is terrible
(4) HE SUCKS NOW
I’d rather watch Nunez or Adams @ 3B.
Or should I say *parody? Hold down the fort.
Losing Chavez is actually kind of a big deal. He was worth ~2 wins last season, without him the Yankees probably miss the playoffs.
Where’s Cody Ransom when you need him?
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Most athletic guy in the clubhouse is going to cost us 2 years at 500k. Too steep. Next contestant!
Hamilton a “platoon” guy??? Yea, so was Ruth.
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No he wasn’t..
.327/.460/.686 vs LHP
.351/.486/.705 vs RHP
Hamilton on the other hand..
.280/.327/.481 vs LHP
.314/.379/.580 vs RHP
I don’t want Youk because…
(1) I can’t stand him
(2) His offense is below average
(3) His 3B defense is terrible
(4) HE SUCKS NOW
I’d rather watch Nunez or Adams @ 3B.
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(5) An eye sore.
(6) Can no longer watch the Yanks on HD.
Hamilton a “platoon” guy? Still sinkin’ in.
Sign Hamilton, which hurts not the farm. He and Cano will take care of the lineup. The pitching is deep. Stick Adams at 3B and see how it goes. It’s so maddeningly simple. Simple!
Hamilton a “platoon” guy? Still sinkin’ in.
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Functionally he’s not and would play vs any pitcher. But if you look at the number he is significantly worse vs LHP compared to RHP. Still, he’s not a black hole vs LHP, but he IS worse
Who cares about Chav’s splits or now many wins he gave us. Its all about how he frames his glove while waiting for the batter to swing. Times have changed. 2011 wants their stats back.
Wanted Keppinger so bad. The guy is a winner. Hardly strikes out and probably a good bunter.
Could we ever have used him ?! Contact hitter when have failed so often at that. Even when not playing he could have PH in the right spot.
This sucks !
Who cares about Chav’s splits or now many wins he gave us. Its all about how he frames his glove while waiting for the batter to swing. Times have changed. 2011 wants their stats back.
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wat
I thought Keppinger would have been a nice addition to the lineup. Solid contact guy. 3 years isn’t horrible for him. I think I’d rather just let Adams have a go at 3B now. Maybe pair him with Chavez.
“When “we” have failed so often at that”
To me, its what have you done for me lately? Chavez sucked in the post season this year and gets hurt too often. I think this team needs major changes from the present line up, Granderson needs to go too, Swisher already gone. The ALCS was a discrace and Im still bitter. Chavez was part of the post season suckiness when we needed him.
Chavez to Az.
Hal would love to go in house to solve all problems.
Let’s see:
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Tex 1B
Cano 2B
Nunez 3B
Granderson LF
Romine C
Musteliar RF
Adams DH
Wait, we need a C, RF
Can’t wait for Cashman’s leaving the meetings press conference. He can tell us how he wasted three days of his life.
Nix can be picked up for a few more days by another team since he is not on the 40 man. The O’s are reportedly interested.
Don’t fret little one’s. Hank Blalock, Morgan Ensberg & Mike Lamb are all just a phone call away!
Please no youk ! YUK !!!
mick-
I’m not so sure that the Yanks even want to go in-house to fill the lineup. Seems to me like they’d rather go after a cheap 1 year veteran fix than give it to a younger guy from the system.
The Hamilton Platooner’s are quickly circling the wagons. Pointless. An utterance made minus thought.
Yankees fans – as Rick Pitino would say – Dean Palmer is not walking through that door – - – -
An utterance made minus thought.
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You certainly have experience in that area…
- DONNYBROOKS GENERAL PRINCIPLES – (continued)
(9) Weigh your words carefully. They may ultimately Crush you.
Listen – the only team Hamilton can platoon on is the Dodgers – and at the rate their going – he might be a pinch hitter with their current funding levels – - – -
I don’t really like Youkilis either.. that’s going to be a hard one to root for.
At least with young players, there is hope they improve. I hate watching the old guys getting worse. Remember when Cash said it is not about getting younger it is about getting better.
Remember when the winter was for trying to improve? Now, it is watching how much worse they will become. It looks like dramatically worse. Worse than the team who lost to Detroit–by far.
Get Larry Bowa in there in the spring to work with Nunez at 3B.
With our staff and pen we could actually win with that lineup.
What did we lose? Martin, Swisher,Chavez…
All or nothing guys…non situational hitters.
Add Gardner, Nunez, Adams…contact hitters.
Keep the faith…
Listen – the only team Hamilton can platoon on is the Dodgers – and at the rate their going – he might be a pinch hitter with their current funding levels – – – -
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Right, he is a guy that has a wide platoon split (.150 points) but would never really be platooned, because he is hits great vs the side that throws 66% of the time. He isn’t an A-rod or Pujols though, whose OPS are the same vs both hands. A-rod’s career OPS numbers vs LHP & RHP are .001 points apart.
Jeff Keppinger showed he is more his security, comfort, and bank account than he is about winning, because the White Sox are going nowhere next year as the 82 to 85 wins tops they’re collecting aren’t winning a wildcard slot or division title.
He’d rather get his three years and $12M than have two legitimate cracks at winning the World Series with the Yanks for $3-4M a year.
Did the Yanks make an offer? Who knows? If they didn’t, Keppinger HAD to sign so soon? It’s just under three weeks before Christmas. If they did, they must’ve offered him two years as he’s too good and in demand to accept just one year.
The Yanks should just give Ronnier Mustellier who’s hit ever since he came to America from Cuba a shot at 3B. ‘Dude’s only 28 years old. They gave El Duque a chance in ’98 – how’d that work out? True, El Duque was a much bigger talent than Mustellier but so was Jose Contreras and how’d Contreras work out?
Mark Reynolds will want and get two or three years he is not worth. Eduard Nunez can’t play the position competently. David Adams and Corbin Joseph aren’t ready yet. Chase Headley will cost too much in prospects. The Japanese guy has done nothing in American baseball unlike Mustellier who has at least put in time in the minors and excelled at every level. Mustellier should be the man. Again 28 years old, has hit left and right in the minors, would cost only the rookie minimum or whatever he’s being paid as someone who signed as a free agent from Cuba.
Patrick,
If one totals the WINS that have left, the team is about at .500 now, or maybe slightly above.
If he hits like he did in 2011 vs LHP where he OBP’d under .300, you would not want him hitting 3rd or 4th vs LHP. He’d hit lower in the order.
A-rod in his prime you could leave in the 3rd or 4th spot indefinitely.
Hamilton on the other hand..
.280/.327/.481 vs LHP
.314/.379/.580 vs RHP
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Cano
.290 .338 .453 vs LHP
.317 .358 .527 vs RHP
Even the most optimistic ppl are starting to question whats going on. “Cashman has to have a trade or signing up his sleeve” Lol folks you can only reach into the hat some many times.
Perhaps another “dancing master” has appeared on this stage. Nice 180
Perhaps another “dancing master” has appeared on this stage. Nice 180
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Every post you make i just see “hodor hodor hodor hodor” ..
Cano
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Yup and .239 .309 .337 .646 vs LHP in 2012. Can pay big for these guys who hit righties, but then you really need some big bats that can handle lefties in there.
Jeff Keppinger showed he is more his security, comfort, and bank account than he is about winning,
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In other words, he’s like everyone else in Major League Baseball.
Eric Chavez showed he is all about the money cuz how do you sign a one year deal with the Diamondbacks? He must think he really sucks cuz a year $3M isn’t enough to sign elsewhere save for a desperate guy who thinks his value is next to nil even though it isn’t. Chavez sold out and himself short.
Have fun paying $3M for a guy who you’d be lucky to get 100-150 PA out of, Arizona.
Have fun playing for a loser, “Chavy”, you ingrate phony out for the money.
Shocker. Turn on the FAN and Mike is talking about the Mets. If it’s not the Jets they are talking Mets. This is part of the reason the Yanks are able to get away with the crap they are pulling
Why not Mustelier?
He plays some 3B and the OF and has hit.
Maybe we will get younger this season?
Isn’t this what ppl want?
Triple Short of a Cycle December 5th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Shocker. Turn on the FAN and Mike is talking about the Mets. If it’s not the Jets they are talking Mets. This is part of the reason the Yanks are able to get away with the crap they are pulling
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Which is weird because he just had Sweeny on wtf
Have fun paying $3M for a guy who you’d be lucky to get 100-150 PA out of, Arizona.
Have fun playing for a loser, “Chavy”, you ingrate phony out for the money.
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Losing Chavez is not a big deal, he is injury prone and can’t play in the field that much. Cashman has bigger problems than losing Chavez.
I love how anyone who signs with someone other than the Yankees has a character flaw. Maybe these players rightly realize there’s no certainty that they’ll be “winning” if they sign with the Yankees anymore.
AAA December 5th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Jeff Keppinger showed he is more his security, comfort, and bank account than he is about winning,
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In other words, he’s like everyone else in Major League Baseball.
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No, he isn’t. Not everyone signs for security, comfort, and the money over the chance to win.
Hiroki Kuroda turned down a two-year offer from San Diego and I think one with his former team the Dodgers to re-sign with the Yanks for just one year for less money than what SD and maybe LA offered him.
C.C. Sabathia could’ve EASILY opted out, put the Yanks over the coals, and received another record contract for a pitcher at least by average salary per season if not total salary from the Yanks or whoever after 2011, and what would the Yanks have done about it? Instead, he took just another year tacked onto his current contract. It’s called he wants as many chances to win a World Series with the greatest sports franchise ever.
Paul O’Neill used to sign one year at a time for below what he’d get on the open market even though he could’ve easily signed for multiple years at the market rate.
Pettitte returned for only $2.5M in 2012. Bartolo Colon took only $900K for 2012.
The list of guys who signed for less than they could’ve got goes on an on and on.
Mike did have Sweeney on but he also had David Wright, Wilpon and Sandy Alderson on. That’s why all the Met talk.
Mike did have Sweeney on but he also had David Wright, Wilpon and Sandy Alderson on. That’s why all the Met talk.
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It really baffles me how their ratings have not decreased considering they only talk about 2 teams
Again, Cashman confirmed he made no offer to Keppinger or anyone else. What would you expect him or any other player to do? Should they decline $12M just in case Brian gets authority at some point in time?
Despite the fact Hal wants players to play for nothing after regaining their amateur status, these guys play for money. It is their job.