Now what?
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 05, 2012 
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While Joe Girardi sat at lunch with the Yankees beat writers, two potential third basemen came off the board.
Jeff Keppinger has signed with the White Sox for three years, $12 million. Eric Chavez has signed with the Diamondbacks for one year, $3 million. Girardi acknowledged that the Yankees had talked about both players. Now the team’s third base situation is as uncertain as ever, with two options — a pair that might have been a nice platoon combination — no longer on the market.
A few thoughts…
• There’s plenty to like about both players, but it says a lot about the state of the Yankees offense that there’s a “what are they going to do now” reaction to guys like Keppinger and Chavez coming off the board. Those are complimentary players, not high-impact guys, yet the third base situation is so uncertain that losing those two really does feel like a huge blow.
• I can understand not wanting to give Keppinger a three-year deal, but one year, $3 million for Chavez? Why not match or top that deal? Wonder if Chavez simply wanted to stay at home in Arizona and money wasn’t a huge issue. Also wonder if the Yankees had major concerns about his health.
• Recognizing that his defense has been a real problem, at this point doesn’t Eduardo Nunez have to be the top internal candidate to be the Yankees starting third baseman? Give David Adams, Corban Joseph and Ronnier Mustelier a look, but Nunez is the most proven player in the bunch. If all else fails — and surely the Yankees will do something eventually — who’s a better option than Nunez?
• In this market, it might be better to start focusing on the less obvious solutions. Brian Cashman has surprised us before, but so far, the only surprise is how little the Yankees have done.
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Forfeit the season lol jk or am I
Give Nunie a chance in spring training.
Nunez will be traded before the season starts. His D is worthless.
Recognizing that his defense has been a real problem, at this point doesn’t Eduardo Nunez have to be the top internal candidate to be the Yankees starting third baseman? Give David Adams, Corban Joseph and Ronnier Mustelier a look, but Nunez is the most proven player in the bunch. If all else fails — and surely the Yankees will do something eventually — who’s a better option than Nunez?
Nunez has played in the majors and his bat has been ok, for a SS, but Mustelier’s numbers in the minors have far exceeded Nunez’.
Why not Mustelier?
He plays some 3B and the OF and has hit.
Maybe we will get younger this season?
Isn’t this what ppl want?
Triple Short of a Cycle December 5th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Shocker. Turn on the FAN and Mike is talking about the Mets. If it’s not the Jets they are talking Mets. This is part of the reason the Yanks are able to get away with the crap they are pulling
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Which is weird because he just had Sweeny on wtf
Absent the rotation, when was the last time we gave a rookie the ball and told him to run with it? Cano taking over for Womack?
Eric Chavez showed he is all about the money cuz how do you sign a one year deal with the Diamondbacks?
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What? Why shouldn’t he be all about the money?
In 2014 if they lose Andy, Kuroda,Mo, Cano and Granderson….we can be this years redsox.
There’s plenty to like about both players, but it says a lot about the state of the Yankees offense that there’s a “what are they going to do now” reaction to guys like Keppinger and Chavez coming off the board. Those are complimentary players, not high-impact guys, yet the third base situation is so uncertain that losing those two really does feel like a huge blow.
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Behind Cano, Chavez had the next highest OPS of any regular last year…. I realize that due to his fragility Chavez cannot play everyday anymore but he was much more than a “complimentary player” last year… He is a big loss.
Chad is channeling his inner Cashman when he describes less obvious solutions. What that means is worse solutions. It is a process waiting for the worse players to become obviously unwanted by others.
Nunez will be traded before the season starts. His D is worthless.
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It wasnt always and they could get someone in there to work with him.
New thoughts: Open competitions
3B: Nunez/Musteiler/Adams
C: Romine/Murphy/Cervelli (still hope they sign AJ)
RF: Almonte/Almonte/Mesa/Dickerson (unless they find someone better)
Cashman will pull something huge out, just watch. There is a plan.
cs in la December 5th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Cashman will pull something huge out, just watch. There is a plan.
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Youk
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Tex 1B
Cano 2B
Nunez 3B
Granderson LF
Romine C
Musteliar RF
Adams DH
Why can’t we win with this team? You can switch Adams and Nunez.
Adams, Co-Jo, etc. are career utility players. At least let Nunez get the start because he has the potential to be a starter for us down the line.
Cashman went outta his way just the other day to mention that Nunez was a SS, and was not gonna be considered as a replacement at 3B for A-Rod. Of course this was before Cashman dropped the ball numerous times while attempting to sign a 3B.
2:33pm: The Indians are “stepping up their intensity” in pursuit of Youkilis, according to Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#38UqYW7jSeHoGm88.99
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Yes, please.
trade granderson for a legit 3b then re-sign ichiro.
All we need in right field and 3rd base are good defenders to hit 8th and 9th if the nearly half a billion dollar duo would actually play a little competitive ball.
It’s unbelievable to think we need 6 $20m a year batters to be competitive. It’s not like this doesn’t happen to other teams, it just kills the Yankeea because of the length and size of the contract. Players underperform way more than they exceed expectations.
With that being said, ARod and Tex are what they are offensively, and maybe signing Swisher wouldn’t have been such a bad idea.
Youk, following in the footsteps of Boggs, wants to go Yankee.
Very hard to win with a lineup that has Nunez, Mustelier, Romine, & Adams all expecting to get significant playing time or starting in the same lineup.
That lineup also has 2 guys out of position.
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Tex 1B
Cano 2B
Nunez 3B
Granderson LF
Romine C
Musteliar RF
Adams DH
Why can’t we win with this team? You can switch Adams and Nunez.
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You would be relying on 3 rookies
The Yankees don’t need offense out of 3B or RF. They just need someone who can field the position and situationally hit.
Well at least we have Tex to carry the team until Arod comes back. Oh wait
Cashman will pull something huge out, just watch. There is a plan.
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To gut the farm again?
ac1 December 5th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Cashman will pull something huge out, just watch. There is a plan.
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To gut the farm again?
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That’s all he can do at this point unless he says damn the budget
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Tex 1B
Cano 2B
Nunez 3B
Granderson LF
Romine C
Musteliar RF
Adams DH
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Then switch Adams to 3B and Nunez to dh
That’s all he can do at this point unless he says damn the budget
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Well then we are f’d for 2013 and 2014-2020 also.
Good plan!
Pretty tough to “gut” anything while sitting on your hands.
Remember when Chad was all like, “would you rather me make stuff up?”
Yes.
A thousand times yes, Chad.
Just start posting about your vacations and hobbies.
Mustelier is reportedly not very good defensively. We shall soon find out. Youkilis isn’t coming in all liklihood.
Who’s out of position? Gardner and Grandy can be changed.
Mustelier or Adams can also get a shot at 3rd and Nunez can DH.
Don’t be so anal…
Yankees: Olt and Upton
Arizona: Asdrubal and Phelps
Texas: Grandy
Cleveland: Nova and Tyler Austin
Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Listen – the only team Hamilton can platoon on is the Dodgers – and at the rate their going – he might be a pinch hitter with their current funding levels – – – -
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Right, he is a guy that has a wide platoon split (.150 points) but would never really be platooned, because he is hits great vs the side that throws 66% of the time. He isn’t an A-rod or Pujols though, whose OPS are the same vs both hands. A-rod’s career OPS numbers vs LHP & RHP are .001 points apart.
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I find your lack of sense of humor disturbing – - – -(I would link to Darth Vader youtube scene right now – but cannot get youtube – dang)
You would be relying on 3 rookies
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We might as well try to get younger, that’s what a lot of ppl want.
Yanks should not panic and go for another all or nothing guy like Reynolds.
More situational hitters, remember?
Maybe people are choosing to stay away from NYC because of how public Cashman is making these issues regarding the CBA and 2014…..
RONNIER MUSTELIER
RONNIER MUSTELIER
RONNIER MUSTELIER
RONNIER MUSTELIER
RONNIER MUSTELIER
- Just turned 28 in August so he’s much younger than A-Rod.
- Bats righthanded.
- From Cuba which has turned out some good players, (El Duque, Cespedes et.al.)
- . 324/.378./.497/.875 career slashline with only 85 SO in 656 PA in two minor league seasons.
- Quintipled his homerun total in 2012 (3 HR in 2011 to 15 in 2012.)
- Better gloveman than A-Rod and certainly Eduardo Nunez.
- Could play some LF.
– Can steal a base (19 SB in 27 SB attempts including 16 for 20 outside of his bad patch 3 for 7 with Trenton.)
- Low-risk, high-reward.
- Is more MLB-ready than fellow Yankee farmhands David Adams and Corbin Joseph.
NO to Kevin Youkilis, Mark Reynolds, Scott Rolen, Casey McGhee, Adams, and Joseph.
Polanco will fall in our laps and will play for free.
@KenDavidoff: The #Yankees and Eric Chavez never held substantive conversations about contract terms.
How did the Yanks basically not even talk to Chavez unless they had another iron in the fire that they felt good about?
Cashman will sign someone when a player tells him he’ll play for free.
There is no Granderson trade coming. He’s been quietly shopped since early November.
When you call Brian Cashman’s phone you get this message.”Hello, please leave a message if you are an agent or player willing to play for free or at most a one year contract for the New York Yankees. “
Mick,
Hi… Yes, I could live with that lineup… But probably they will prefer some vets instead… I would play Adams at third though.
Odds,
Hey buddy… Yes, three rookies, but what they probably could get on the market is probably far worse, but I think they will go with the vets instead. I hope they would go after Hamilton, but I don’t think they will. Or they could gut the farm, which would be even worse and shortsighted.
Polanco will fall in our laps and will play for free.
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Color me unimpressed
Polanco last 2 years .269 .323 .334 .657
mick December 5th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
You would be relying on 3 rookies
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We might as well try to get younger, that’s what a lot of ppl want.
Yanks should not panic and go for another all or nothing guy like Reynolds.
More situational hitters, remember?
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This is the same franchise that put three rookies in the rotation and then started wringing their hands when it didn’t work.
Placido Polanco for 3B.
This is the same franchise that put three rookies in the rotation and then started wringing their hands when it didn’t work.
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That could happen next year.
@Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Dodgers spoke with Greinke reps today, not clear where talks stand. Plan to sign TWO SPs. Maybe Greinke-Ryu, even Greinke-Sanchez.
………..Do I have to say it??
Sure, why not.
F*ck the Dodgers.
How did the Yanks basically not even talk to Chavez unless they had another iron in the fire that they felt good about?
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Blake-
As soon as players and their agents found out that the Yankees needed a 3rd baseman Cashman was getting all kinds of calls. Maybe Chavez saw the writing on the wall and wanted to play elsewhere and never called him.
no real options out there. see what the kids can do and address it at the trade deadline if there’s a real deficiency
Odds,
Hey buddy… Yes, three rookies, but what they probably could get on the market is probably far worse, but I think they will go with the vets instead. I hope they would go after Hamilton, but I don’t think they will. Or they could gut the farm, which would be even worse and shortsighted.
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Yes more than likely they will go with a vet a third and catcher.
Nice to see you around buddy
It’s been an hour since someone pranked Mike about a Lee-Grandy trade and he’s still on it.
blake December 5th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
@KenDavidoff: The #Yankees and Eric Chavez never held substantive conversations about contract terms.
How did the Yanks basically not even talk to Chavez unless they had another iron in the fire that they felt good about?
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They’re working on RF and can only do one thing at a time.
The Yankees don’t need offense out of 3B or RF.
Now, I believe I have heard everything. Thank you for closing the loop.
mick December 5th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
This is the same franchise that put three rookies in the rotation and then started wringing their hands when it didn’t work.
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That could happen next year.
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It could my point is this club has been known to ditch plans when young kids don’t work.
all some see are numbers….
Mac is on fire today.
It could my point is this club has been known to ditch plans when young kids don’t work.
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different situation. pitching vs hitting/defense
@Joelsherman1: Next player #Yankees could lose is Ibanez. #Mariners pushing for him, could end up in LH-RH platoon with, of all folks, Bay. #Mets
Different positions but still the same ppl in charge
@Joelsherman1: Next player #Yankees could lose is Ibanez. #Mariners pushing for him, could end up in LH-RH platoon with, of all folks, Bay. #Mets
HAHAHAHAHA
What position do we need offense from??
Any chance we could dig up Mickey Mantle?
blake December 5th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
@Joelsherman1: Next player #Yankees could lose is Ibanez. #Mariners pushing for him, could end up in LH-RH platoon with, of all folks, Bay. #Mets
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This is becoming comical
Cashman said yesterday, I believe, he hoped people would wait for him. They wouldn’t. Why is he waiting? For what? The bus?
Here’s an updated list of available FA middle infielders. Take your pick. Most would be happy to even have a job:
Second basemen
Yuniesky Betancourt (31)
Ronny Cedeno (30)
Willie Harris (35)
Orlando Hudson (35)
Kelly Johnson (31)
Adam Kennedy (37)
Ryan Raburn (32)
Freddy Sanchez (34)
Ryan Theriot (33)
Shortstops
Jason Bartlett (33)
Ronny Cedeno (30)
Stephen Drew (30)
Alberto Gonzalez (30)
Alex Gonzalez (35)
Cesar Izturis (33)
Munenori Kawasaki (32)
Third basemen
Miguel Cairo (39)
Mark DeRosa (38)
Chone Figgins (35)
Alberto Gonzalez (30)
Jack Hannahan (33)
Orlando Hudson (35)
Brandon Inge (36)
Adam Kennedy (37)
Jose Lopez (29)
Casey McGehee (30)
Placido Polanco (37)
Mark Reynolds (29)
Scott Rolen (38)
Brandon Snyder (27)
Ian Stewart (27)
Drew Sutton (30)
Ty Wigginton (35)
Kevin Youkilis (34)
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....uVSkOgY.99
Different positions but still the same ppl in charge
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if they all don’t work out then go for a trade or someone not signed at low cost or wait for arod to come back or call someone else up.
The Yanks have to find 79 home runs from somewhere in 2013…and counting.
That’s what Swisher (24), Martin (21), ARod (18) and Chavez (16) contributed.
We can maybe put Cervelli down for one and Nunez for 9 or 10. Where are the rest coming from?
If we can’t even keep our big hairy monster we can’t keep anyone…
Cash has to be up to something (phantom limbing over here) he just has to be.
I’d love to see Nunez get a chance. He should play winter ball and spring training as a pure third baseman. With some intensive work at one position, maybe there’s hope? If Nunie can catch the ball at all, he’s the kind of player the Yanks could really use.
Frankly, I’m glad to have A-Rod out of the way for a while. He looks like dead weight these days. I realize he hasn’t been healthy for a long time, but at this stage, that could be a permanent condition.
@Joelsherman1: Ibanez prefers #Yankees, but NYY slow to move with $. #Mariners interest real and Ibanez owns home in Sea, it is where he will retire to
@JonHeymanCBS
#yankees bid higher $12M on 3 yrs for keppinger. Either slick negotiating by new chisox gm rick hahn or chicago preference
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Teams are picking other places over NYY
what is wrong with freddy sanchez?
@JonHeymanCBS: #yankees bid higher $12M on 3 yrs for keppinger. Either slick negotiating by new chisox gm rick hahn or chicago preference
I’m sure ChiSox offered more PT
Bruceb,
Don’t forget Ibanez homers.
The Yankees don’t need offense out of 3B or RF.
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Do they need offense out of catcher? How about left field?
The Yankees could have offered Keppinger an everyday job at 3rd.
No, the Yankees need no offense from any positions. They are the Yankees, dang it.
mick December 5th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Different positions but still the same ppl in charge
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if they all don’t work out then go for a trade or someone not signed at low cost or wait for arod to come back or call someone else up.
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What are the chances that any of those works out as well. Someone at a low cost was probably released by another club. Call someone else up like who? Any mid season trade is going to be done for a guy on a yr 1 deal making no money(Mcgee(sp))
@JonHeymanCBS
#yankees bid higher $12M on 3 yrs for keppinger. Either slick negotiating by new chisox gm rick hahn or chicago preference
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Good to know, actually. So at least it wasn’t all money there.
At this rate we’ll be lucky to get Schierholtz.
Joelsherman1 #Yankees brass authorized OK to go at least 3-$12M on Keppinger, believe didn’t want to be in NY, like last yr when picked #Rays over NYY
I can’t wait to hear the excuses from Cash about why none of the mediocre players the Yanks targeted signed with the Yanks. It should be good for a few one-liners such as “beggars can’t be choosers,” “not comfortable in the marketplace,” etc …
Funny how Randy Levine is quiet this off-season. He’s usually good for a stupid explosion proclaiming the Steinbrenners the world’s greatest owners.
Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
@JonHeymanCBS
#yankees bid higher $12M on 3 yrs for keppinger. Either slick negotiating by new chisox gm rick hahn or chicago preference
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Good to know, actually. So at least it wasn’t all money there.
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Keppinger will have a full time job there.
Yankees offered more than $12M for Keppinger? LOL
The Yanks have to find 79 home runs from somewhere in 2013…and counting.
That’s what Swisher (24), Martin (21), ARod (18) and Chavez (16) contributed.
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Why do they need to replace those HRs?
How about they stop looking for HR or bust and focus on some guys that can hit singles and situationally?
We’re getting turned down by Jeff Keppinger LOL. Hal is a joke.
We need a DH….Let Nuney hit everyday and give Jeter a rest.
Put Mustelier in RF, Adams at 3rd.
Go young.
” coney1 December 5th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Any chance we could dig up Mickey Mantle?”
At this point, we’d probably be reading about how he just signed with the Rockies.
Patience.
It’s a process.
Serenity now.
Can’t blame Keppinger – probably did not want to be part of the circus it will be when ARod comes back and being the 3b there – - – -
BX33 December 5th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
We’re getting turned down by Jeff Keppinger LOL. Hal is a joke.
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It’s insane
Francesa – the Day of Yankees is over – - – -
Who cares about 250 homeruns?
What exactly did that get us last year?
Everyone sucking at the same time in the playoffs?
swish hit .250, granderson hit .220, arod hit .260 something, Martin his .211. Imagine if any of them hit near .300?
gotta be something in the works
unless this truly is a rebuilding year. tough to do that for the last year of jeter, mo, and pettitte. cash has to do something or those guys are gonna lose it
The Yankees higher bid could have included incentive clauses based on how many plate appearances he had during each of those three years.
Don’t forget Ibanez homers.
Good point, Mac. Forgot that they hand’t resigned him yet. Adding his 19 makes the total 98. That’s a lot to make up in singles and doubles.
Cash man may be in stealth mode to sign Brandon Inge for 3B……..cringe!
FeinsandNYDN Youkilis to Cleveland almost makes too much sense not to happen. He’s from Ohio, loves Francona … seems like a perfect fit.
I don’t want youk
Can we print a copy of the comments and mail them to Hal, Hank, Randy, and the gang? Figure they are in their money pit swimming in savings.
Francessa with the nonsense of Melky being a 4th OF before the “help”
Good point, Mac. Forgot that they hand’t resigned him yet. Adding his 19 makes the total 98. That’s a lot to make up in singles and doubles.
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These players may still be able to hit homeruns too…. not like the guys from last year, but it isnt 0 vs. 100. Also, Tex will hpefully be healthier this year and hit more than 25 or whatever he had. I’d expect Gardner to get one more in front of Cano and Tex too. Granderson should be able to hit over .220 (if he isnt traded)….
Yanks set a franchise record for homeruns last year. It is unrealistic to expect we’d hit that many every year. I’d rather see improvements in our ability to score guys from 3rd with less than two out, or move a guy from 2nd with no outs…
I don’t want youk
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Neither do I …
I’d laugh if Cashman throws his arms up and quits!
Says something like, how can a GM work with the restrictions on him this year and so many holes.
‘Frankly, I’m glad to have A-Rod out of the way for a while.’
Lots of people said that in 2009 too and 40 games in were counting the minutes until A-Rod returned.
We need a DH….Let Nuney hit everyday and give Jeter a rest.
Put Mustelier in RF, Adams at 3rd.
Go young.
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OK. That gave me a thought. Trade with the Rangers for Young, Michael Young.He only has one year left at 16M Maybe he still owns a 3rdB glove?
AKA, I’m with Mike-Bring in the kids now rather than sign any worn out retreads.
@DKnobler
Dodgers talking teams about Dee Gordon, but insisting on high price
Least we won’t have to listen to Girardi saying “we’re a home run-hitting team” next year!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, shocked to see that they would not at least match that for Chavez and that he wouldn’t prefer to come back and fill a lot of time at 3B in Alex’s absence. Crazy offseason.
Unfortunately, I fear a Yankee overreaction and a trade for a marginal player or throwing crazy money at someone which will hamper the team for years to come. This has all the makings of signing Kyle Farnsworth to a 4 year contract or trading the kitchen sink for a 41 year old Randy Johnson while also signing Pavano and Jaret Wright.
Dee Gordon can barely play baseball, the Dodgers are so brazen!
Least we won’t have to listen to Girardi saying “we’re a home run-hitting team” next year!!!!!!!!!!!
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good!!! im so over watching people swing for 5 run homeruns everytime they bat…
Although he indicated last night that Emilio Bonifacio could be available, David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal Constitution tweets today that the Blue Jays don’t want to move him, “at least not yet.”
Hmmm. Are the Braves interested in Bonifaco for SS so they can get brother Upton in a trade for Simmons?
Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Dee Gordon can barely play baseball, the Dodgers are so brazen!
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I was thinking we’d probably end up trading Williams for him
“Hmmm. Are the Braves interested in Bonifaco for SS so they can get brother Upton in a trade for Simmons?”
Probably not….probably to play 3b or LF
Cashman is going to pull a trade from his behind any hour now. Watch for it.
I accept that Chavy wanted to play near his home and money was not a top priority
No reason to give Keppinger a 3 year deal. He’s not worthy of that deal.
Nunez could always start at 3rd and see what happens. From what we all know, guys like
Adams and Joseph are in the minors and possibly ready to enter the equation if Nunez fails.
@Ken_Rosenthal: Could #Yankees lose on Ibanez too? Source says #Mariners, #Rangers, #Phillies all have expressed interest.
We could probably get Damon
@Buster_ESPN: The Yankees never made an offer to Jeff Keppinger.
Nunez always was the best option at 3B anyway! It’s all good Go get an OF
blake December 5th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
@Buster_ESPN: The Yankees never made an offer to Jeff Keppinger.
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Hmmmm
Nunez always was the best option at 3B anyway! It’s all good Go get an OF
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Yanks won’t play him at 3b
Nunez could always start at 3rd and see what happens
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Lots of errors
Ys Guy says:
December 5, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Nunez always was the best option at 3B anyway! It’s all good Go get an OF
They’d have to provide complimentary hard hats for fans sitting behind 1B
Chavez did a nice job last year, but he is very fragile. Swish was good in the regular season but very bad in the postseason. Raul was great in the postseason, but he is on borrowed time too. I think that people are overreacting about the loss of these players.
If George Steinbrenner were alive today he would send Cashman and his sons to Guantanamo Bay.
No offers are made because Cashman must get it all approved by Hal, and he is reluctant. He is reminding Cashman about his building from within comments years ago. Cashman said their is no reason not to have a very good team for $189M. Hal says, okay, do it.
I think that people are overreacting about the loss of these players.
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So overall you are happy with the off season so far?
@Joelsherman1: Just so u know your friendly correspondent trying to think of everything, Teixeira was 3B in minors, so asked #Yankees if he could (cont)
@Joelsherman1: play 3B until A-Rod returns/go for easier to find 1B stopgap, told no. Maybe next will ask if can coax Chipper out of retirement #Yankees
With the cost cutting going on don’t think the Steins are risking a lawsuit with Nunez at 3B.
Something is a brewing. I can feel it.
Things that are not happening:
Jeter to 3B
Nunez to 3B
You are all now notified. I hope to see no more of these posts.
@Joelsherman1: #Yankees have been talking to Mark Reynolds reps about 3B. He is bad fielder, Ks ton, but huge power as NYY know 1st hand from last yr
Benny Blanco December 5th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Something is a brewing. I can feel it.
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That’s my coffee.
Joelsherman1 #Yankees have been talking to Mark Reynolds reps about 3B. He is bad fielder, Ks ton, but huge power as NYY know 1st hand from last yr
ac1,
I agree and said many times during the year they need more good average and 15-20 home run guys. However, the Yankees are losing the only ability they had, and that is home runs, without replacing them with good hitters. Heck, they are not replacing them at all.
@jnorris427: @Joelsherman1 You’re on the Mark, Reynolds?
So the Yanks are going with defense at catcher – but a potential butcher at 3rd with Reynolds – - – -Error 101 Does Not Compute (yes, yes I saw the Andromeda Strain recently) – - – -
YankeesWFAN Yanks met with agent for Mark Reynolds today. Could get serious with him as 3B with Chavez off the board. Prob wants only 1 yr deal too.
Mark Reynolds. Now, there is our good contact hitter. Man on third with no outs and Granderson and Reynolds coming up. What are the odds of two Ks? Thought so.
@YankeesWFAN: Yanks met with agent for Mark Reynolds today. Could get serious with him as 3B with Chavez off the board. Prob wants only 1 yr deal too.
blake December 5th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
@Joelsherman1: #Yankees have been talking to Mark Reynolds reps about 3B. He is bad fielder, Ks ton, but huge power as NYY know 1st hand from last yr
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Yes, and let’s put Granderson and Reynolds back to back in the lineup and set a record.
So the Yanks are going with defense at catcher – but a potential butcher at 3rd with Reynolds – – – -Error 101 Does Not Compute (yes, yes I saw the Andromeda Strain recently) – – – -
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They’ll find a defensive platoon partner for Reynolds.
@Joelsherman1: #Yankees have been talking to Mark Reynolds reps about 3B. He is bad fielder, Ks ton, but huge power as NYY know 1st hand from last yr
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If this wasn’t real life it’d be comical.
Yankees have been talking to Mark Reynolds reps about 3B. He is bad fielder, Ks ton, but huge power as NYY know 1st hand from last yr
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Shocker.. Another HR hitter with a .200 average. It’s a proven success right? (crickets)
@Joelsherman1: Just so u know your friendly correspondent trying to think of everything, Teixeira was 3B in minors, so asked #Yankees if he could (cont)
@Joelsherman1: play 3B until A-Rod returns/go for easier to find 1B stopgap, told no. Maybe next will ask if can coax Chipper out of retirement #Yankees
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If Sherman really asked that he’s a bigger idiot than I thought.
Reynolds actually is a perfect hairy monster ball hitter
@bkabak
Yanks a real-life Abbott and Costello routine. “I don’t know.” “Third base.”
They’ll find a defensive platoon partner for Reynolds.
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Yeah for innings 7-9 – it’s innings 1-6 that I am worried about – - – -
What the hell is Cashman doing? Reynolds is terrible..
Yes, and let’s put Granderson and Reynolds back to back in the lineup and set a record.
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Cut back on the electricity costs at the Stadium. Wind power.
Yanks won’t play him at 3b
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Clearly there is NO PLAN! Everytime another comes off the board we hear Cash is talking to the next one. While we have a good young hitter who has some fielding issues (that can be fixed if they really wanted to), sitting in AAA because he can ‘only play ss’
@Joelsherman1
Youkilis colleague tells me didn’t love being #Whitesox because missed juice of playing where every pitch matters like #Redsox (cont)
@Joelsherman1
Colleague said could imagine Youkilis, therefore, wanting #Yankees because of how much each game matters
Yeah for innings 7-9 – it’s innings 1-6 that I am worried about – – – -
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Maybe they can hire Mike Woodson as a consultant and figure out a way to do offense-defense
While the players come off the board, the FO twiddles their thumbs, look at the sky, and hope for a Christmas miracle to resolve the holes in RF, 3B and elsewhere.
Unless Cashman really has great deals in the works, it looks like another season of dumpster diving, and lots of BS as to how good everyone feels about the team going into the 2013 season.
As any good CEO will do, when getting his company ready for sale, they make it look as profitable as possible to get the best offer, and this looks like the direction Hal is taking the Yankees! I hope that is the case, and we get new owners, similar to that of the Dodgers.
Maybe they’re saving all their big moves for when Felix hits the market.
(Phantom limb post.)
Two ways this could go:
1) Yankees do nothing
2) Yankees sign Hammy and Greinke (and some spare INF bench parts)
Scenario 1 is most likely, but scenario 2 is not out of the question.
CC
Greinke
Kuroda
Pettite
Hughes/Nova/Pineda
Jeter – SS
Granderson – CF
Hammy – RF/DH
Cano – 2B
ARod – 3B/DH
Teixeira – 1B
Ichiro – LF
Romine – C
Bench – Gardner OF, Nunez/Reynolds INF, Cervelli C, AJ C/DH
They would go from barely relevant in the East, to the perennial favorites once again.
One might suggest there is too much risk with those two guys, but there isn’t another team in the MLB with more risk tolerance.
It’s possible. Just sayin..
?@Joelsherman1
Asked a Keppinger friend if he was concerned about playing in NY and answer was: “not true whatsoever” #Yankees
Also 2d source says #Yankees liked Keppinger and, obviously, Chavez, but never made an offer of any type to either
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Sounds to me they arent making an offer to anyone….
What exactly are they doing?
The Yanks can’t have Granderson and Reynolds on the same team. I would rather give Youk 2 years instead of sign Reynolds for 1 year. This team has become a joke and it’s embarrassing to think of the players that they are talking about signing.
LOL… Tex won’t even bunt to beat the shift for the good of the team, he’s gonna play 3B?
Maybe Cashman is going to trade Cano for Alex Rodriguez.
Yeah for innings 7-9 – it’s innings 1-6 that I am worried about – – – -
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Maybe they can hire Mike Woodson as a consultant and figure out a way to do offense-defense
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lol – I guess I believe it when Mike gets Amar’e to play D in January (that’s not entirely fair – I do like 2010-2011 Amar’e and the fact he came to NY when no one else wanted to – I do not like 2012 postseason Amar’e and fire alarms)
I mean do go with the Jack H non-tender guy and Reynolds?
Francesa says via Sweeney Yanks are getting serious with Reynolds – - – -
Yankee offseasons have a tendency of being inscrutable but this one takes the cake.
This day has gotten worse as far as getting anything accomplished. Cashman looks like a fool today. They didn’t even offer a contract for Chavez??? Seriously? I am fine with Youk because he does play with his heart on his sleeve and is clutch, but Reynolds i’m not sold on. With him and Grandy in the lineup that’s over 400 K’s a season in the lineup. Now Sweeny says the Yanks are in serious discussions with Reynolds – Per Francesa
Maybe Cashman is going to trade Cano for Alex Rodriguez.
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I guess – maybe that is the secret move of the offseason – the Yanks have a time machine – - – -
Seriously do the Yanks have any money to spend at all?? It sounds like they haven’t offered any positions players a contract this off season. Maybe the Steinbrenners should just sell the team if this is who they are going to run things now.
So this week we are targeting people but not offering them anything, Kepp and Chavez? Havent even talked to Ichiro? Like Pierzynski but wont offer him anything? The most significant thing Cashman did this week was announce A-Rod out until July.
Shame Spencer December 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
@Joelsherman1
Youkilis colleague tells me didn’t love being #Whitesox because missed juice of playing where every pitch matters like #Redsox (cont)
@Joelsherman1
Colleague said could imagine Youkilis, therefore, wanting #Yankees because of how much each game matters
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1. Then why did he hit better with the White Sox than the Red Sox?
2. Go away.
I guess – maybe that is the secret move of the offseason – the Yanks have a time machine – – – -
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Thats why Cash seems to not be out there, he is in the hot tub.
Seriously do the Yanks have any money to spend at all?? It sounds like they haven’t offered any positions players a contract this off season. Maybe the Steinbrenners should just sell the team if this is who they are going to run things now.
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I have to agree here. But the guy i’d want to buy it will never be accepted by the owners. We’ll end up with some bum like that scumbag in Miami….
Why are they taking call after call about Arod??
@Joelsherman1
Also 2d source says #Yankees liked Keppinger and, obviously, Chavez, but never made an offer of any type to either
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We…. must be up to something else, right? I mean, that has to be the only explanation. That they couldnt make an offer because they were busy doing something else (trade).
Please.
@JackCurryYES
I can’t explain why, but, as others have reported, heard Yankees didn’t make offers to Keppinger or Chavez.
Reynolds vs the Yankees last year:
.294 BA;.410 OBA; .804 Slugging%; 5 doubles, 7 homers, 14RBI’s.
I guess – maybe that is the secret move of the offseason – the Yanks have a time machine – – – -
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At this point i wouldnt be shocked to see them get Alfonso Soriano back in a trade where somehow we pay all his salary AND give up 3 good prospects…
Either Cashman has a major trade up his sleeve or the team is a joke. Unfortunately it seems like he went to Nashville with zero money and nothing going on. Maybe he isn’t creative enough. This is pathetic.
Twins looking for SPing….they have a 3rd baseman who can hit but bad in the field and a catcher who’s a good hitter and decent fielder
Reynolds vs the Yankees last year:
.294 BA;.410 OBA; .804 Slugging%; 5 doubles, 7 homers, 14RBI’s
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AJ Burnett has fantastic numbers vs. the Yankees. How did that translate?
Reynolds vs the Yankees last year:
.294 BA;.410 OBA; .804 Slugging%; 5 doubles, 7 homers, 14RBI’s.
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That’s great – but what are his stats against the rest of the league – b/c he is not facing the Yanks anymore – - – -
ac1 December 5th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
So this week we are targeting people but not offering them anything, Kepp and Chavez? Havent even talked to Ichiro? Like Pierzynski but wont offer him anything? The most significant thing Cashman did this week was announce A-Rod out until July.
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And that was all Sherman!!
Reynolds vs the Yankees last year:
.294 BA;.410 OBA; .804 Slugging%; 5 doubles, 7 homers, 14RBI’s.
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What will he hit when not facing Ivan Nova or Freddy Garcia? Reynolds would not be awful if only because they could move him to DH once A-rod comes back, but he really, really cannot play 3B. Worse than Nunez there, potentially.
Chavez didn’t wanna come back and play with this team of boring bottom of the league players.. (sans jeter, and cano when nobody is on base).
Jeter .300
Granderson .230
Gardner .280?
Tex .250
Cano .300 empty bases
RF ??
3B – Reynolds ????? Youk??? Yeah great
C – ??
DH – .230 Raul??
its quite clear that the yankees aren’t going to do anything that will change the lineup for the better this year. I can’t wait to see their plan blow up in their face when nobody shows up for games. Even if Arod was healthy, so what he isn’t Arod feared hitter anymore.
Yankees just trying to get better draft position for next year, hoping to come in last place.
Betcha Ichiro signs somewhere else.
Let me repeat myself once more. This is the chant we need to hear at every home game.
Hal Sucks, Cashman Sucks, Sell the team …. Hal Sucks, Cashman Sucks, Sell the team …………..
@JonHeymanCBS
#angels shocked folks to steal pujols. angels in touch w/greinke but would be “more shocking” if got ZG, says laa person
Triple Short of a Cycle December 5th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Why are they taking call after call about Arod??
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They should be taking calls from ppl on Lohud. It would be a lot more interesting than “a-rod used roids his entire career.
@JackCurryYES: I can’t explain why, but, as others have reported, heard Yankees didn’t make offers to Keppinger or Chavez.
Cash is finishing that Headley trade up
between Reynolds and Grandy that would be about 400 K’s….with HR’s…thats how they got in trouble in the playoffs…HR’s fine in reg season bad for the playoffs
If the Yanks trade Granderson and sign Hamilton then I am ok with signing Reynolds for cheap. But we know that will never happen. Otherwise they can’t continue to add these nothing hitters that no one wants to an already bad and old lineup.
Reynolds had an OPS 1.131 with men in scoring position and 2 outs last year.
People dont wanna believe the Yankees are not going to do anything exciting, they keep waiting for that “Big Move” .. well, it aint gonna happen.. their big move is just filling holes… FORGET these front office bums! why would anyone wanna play here?
Chavez said he doesn’t wanna play everyday.
so basically whenever someone reports the Yankees are in on someone we should assume they’re not even going to make an offer.
I like Cashman a lot but this is terrible. if the Yankees don’t sign Youkilis they’re in deep sh*t
Michael Pineda : You better do something more exciting this year than getting a DUI.
We need you now more than ever, brother.
The only way this day gets worse is if Trisha shows up on here
I can’t wait to hear sterling say……Kevin youkalis! Made that pitcher pukelis!”
Reynolds loses like 200 points off his batting average when he gets to 2 strikes. If someone could teach him to shorten up with 2 strikes he may be a better hitter. He is one of the guys who would most benefit from it, given the sharp disparity between his actions with 2 strikes and without.
Outside of 3-2, he is worthless with 2 strikes.
Do you think Youk will go with the Munson/Gossage mustache or just rock the Uncle Fester look?
When the optimistic fans start to get nervous that’s when you know it’s serious.
JF-
Could Mark Reynolds play RF as platoon with Nate Schierholtz and DH the other days?
Triple Short of a Cycle December 5th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
The only way this day gets worse is if Trisha shows up on here
lolololol
trade with the Twins..offer them Hughes or Nova in a package and see what they can bring back
Yeah he is too busy looking in the trash cans…
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Andrew Marchand?@AndrewMarchand
Cashman is not talk with the media today. We will get him in the morning
Orioles magic kept Reynolds from sucking even worse than he did…. Do we really want mark Reynolds sans orioles magic?
Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Reynolds loses like 200 points off his batting average when he gets to 2 strikes. If someone could teach him to shorten up with 2 strikes he may be a better hitter.
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you could be talking about Gardner
Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Yeah he is too busy looking in the trash cans…
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Andrew Marchand?@AndrewMarchand
Cashman is not talk with the media today. We will get him in the morning
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He’s either working on something or has nothing going on
@JonHeymanCBS
If swisher can go to #SFGiants, that’s likely his preference. Red sox, mariners, o’s reportedliy in mix (tho balt has no $)
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I always forget how useless Heyman’s reporting is.. until the off season comes.
@jonmorosi: #Indians talking with #Dodgers about Dee Gordon, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me. Would replace Asdrubal if traded.
AndrewMarchand Cashman is not talk with the media today. We will get him in the morning.
Something big better be going down.
JF-
Reynolds played 3 innings in 2007 in RF for the DBacks. Had one chance with a putout!
Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Captain Clutch December 5th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Yeah he is too busy looking in the trash cans…
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Andrew Marchand?@AndrewMarchand
Cashman is not talk with the media today. We will get him in the morning
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He’s either working on something or has nothing going on
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thurs morning you’ll be hearing that Cash left the winter meetings and on his way back to NY
Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Reynolds would not be awful if only because they could move him to DH once A-rod comes back, but he really, really cannot play 3B. Worse than Nunez there, potentially.
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Last two years at 3B:
Reynolds: .897, .850
Nunez: .919, .900
Shame-
Heyman is such a rumor monger. The Giants are done shopping for expensive Free Agents.
Yes probably lol
The fact that the Yankees didn’t offer Chavez anything after finding out that Alex was down for the count tells me one of two things:
1) Cash is working on some mega trade that will shock us all
2)The family plans to sell the team and doesn’t care what they throw on the field next season
I’m guessing it’s #1. If the Yankees field a crappy team, that works against a sale as tickets sales will go down and the overall value of the team gets lowered.
I usually love the offseason, but so far – this one sucks!
As they did in the movie War Games – I think I have gone from a Yankees Fan Defcon 5 – to a Defcon 4 with recent news this afternoon – SAC is on alert, bomber flight crews are on the runway, my subs still have no orders, the guys in the missle silos are just sipping some tea or coffee – at least that is what the WHOPER advises at this moment – - -
chicken little says:
December 5, 2012 at 5:09 pm
AndrewMarchand Cashman is not talk with the media today. We will get him in the morning.
Something big better be going down.”
Cash needed the time to beg Ibanez back
you could be talking about Gardner
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No, gardner in 2010 and 2011 was above league average with 2 strikes. Mark Reynolds hits .145 .236 .276 .512 with 2 strikes.
@BryanHoch: Yankees met with agent for 3B Mark Reynolds today. Made $7.5M this year, looking for similar deal.
Shame-
Heyman is such a rumor monger. The Giants are done shopping for expensive Free Agents.
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You mean Boras – -errr Heyman — err Heyras – - -err Borman – - -Heyman and Boras are never in the same room – coincidence or are they the same person???
Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
you could be talking about Gardner
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No, gardner in 2010 and 2011 was above league average with 2 strikes. Mark Reynolds hits .145 .236 .276 .512 with 2 strikes.
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that I don’t believe..
FeinsandNYDN I’m told the Yankees were very much in on Keppinger, but he wanted no part of them. Wanted full-time job and was somewhat wary of New York.
The Angels reinforced their bullpen with another free agent today, reaching an agreement with lefty Sean Burnett on a two-year deal with a club option, according to MLB.com’s Alden Gonzalez. Burnett is represented by Jim Munsey.
Burnett, 30, had been drawing strong interest as one of the best free agent lefty relievers available this offseason. He posted a 2.38 ERA, 9.1 K/9, 1.9 BB/9, 0.64 HR/9, and 57.4% groundball rate in 56 2/3 innings for the Nationals in 2012.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#JcHeomwYH6cvekw5.99
@JimBowdenESPNxm: Frank Wren just told us on #SXM that the Braves have the resources to sign a significant FA for LF or farm system to trade for it no hurry
FeinsandNYDN I’m told the Yankees were very much in on Keppinger, but he wanted no part of them. Wanted full-time job and was somewhat wary of New York.
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So be it. Stop all the whining, the CONSTANT whining is no fun. You sound like a bunch of fans.
Same goes for Chavez.
@JimBowdenESPNxm: Frank Wren just told us on #SXM that the Braves have the resources to sign a significant FA for LF or farm system to trade for it no hurry
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Show off – - – -
As they did in the movie War Games – I think I have gone from a Yankees Fan Defcon 5 – to a Defcon 4 with recent news this afternoon –
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Let me know if you need me to pee on a spark plug.
Braves should sign swish
As they did in the movie War Games – I think I have gone from a Yankees Fan Defcon 5 – to a Defcon 4 with recent news this afternoon –
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Let me know if you need me to pee on a spark plug.
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A Barry Corbin reference!!
@JimBowdenESPNxm: Frank Wren just told us on SiriusXM that they would not do Simmons for JUpton but might have a combo to get him and would like to
Id rather braves get him than texas
Even I gotta ask, what the fudge is going on here???
I mean I’ll root for the laundry no matter what, and there’s a long time between now and opening day, and I didn’t even want any of the guys out there this off-season that weren’t already with the team in the first place (Martin, Swisher – though I knew he’d be gone – Chavez). And I am glad the Yankees are not the team overpaying these mediocre players. Adjustment had to come.
Still – no offer to Chavez? No offer to Keppinger?
If the tweets are to be believed. Which, to tell you the truth, I’m getting so tired of reporters so much in a hurry to get it first, they don’t get it right or they don’t get it complete!!!
Mr. Potato Head – Mr. Potato Head!
JackCurryYES The price for Don Larsen’s uniform from his 1956 perfect game is up to $530,000. The auction ends tonight.
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At this rate – do the Yanks even have enough to top that bid??
Okay, so if you follow the tweets, the players had preferences to go elsewhere. So the Yankees didn’t need to make an offer so didn’t.
Seems to me anyway that’s how to interpret that.
I hate twitter.
@Evan_P_Grant: Sources: Rangers discussing possibility of Michael Young accepting a trade http://t.co/z7MmHnYv
I would rather have him than Reynolds or youk
Despite Hughes winning 16 in two seasons he is still somewhat suspect as a one pitch guy. He has yet to develop a consistent second pitch and therefore every start his #1 which is not overpowering must hit corners or tempt hitters above the shoulders.
The Yankees have three pitchers with very similar stuff and while Hughes is seen as the most experienced,if hey are going to move anyone in a deal,he would be my choice
Nova has the stuff and the highest ceiling,while Phelps must be spot on with his control but could serve as the #5. Warren who has similar stuff to Phelps could audition again for another slot during the spring.
The Braves did clear about 3M by trading Tommy Hanson to the Angels for Jerome Walden.
Not too impressed with their AAA position players, but pitching they do have plus Simmons.
@Evan_P_Grant: Sources: Rangers discussing possibility of Michael Young accepting a trade http://t.co/z7MmHnYv
I would rather have him than Reynolds or youk
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That probably means Rangers could be on verge of their big moves, Greinke, Hamilton, and then trades – - – -
Lost says a trade with an NL team is happening FWIW
the image of mark reynolds making error after error for the Yankees is a nightmare.
as much as every team would like his power, the guy will hit around .200 and strike out a lot.
is there value there for a 1 year deal? i’m going to say no!
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Michael Young has one year 16M left.
Your 2012 Yankees:
Brett Gardner CF
Derek Jeter SS/DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Curtis Granderson LF
Gary Sanchez C
Slade Heathcott RF
Eduardo Nunez DH/SS
David Adams 3B
Bench: Cervelli, Mustelier, Mesa…
That would at least be interesting.
At this point, if the Yankees sign anyone but Youkilis to play 3B, they are fools.
That is, unless they can get someone via trade.
blake December 5th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Lost says a trade with an NL team is happening FWIW
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They’re going to trade for Tulo and put him at third
*drops mic and walks off*
blake,
who is “Lost”?
jacksquat December 5th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Your 2012 Yankees:
Brett Gardner CF
Derek Jeter SS/DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Curtis Granderson LF
Gary Sanchez C
Slade Heathcott RF
Eduardo Nunez DH/SS
David Adams 3B
Bench: Cervelli, Mustelier, Mesa…
That would at least be interesting.
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Interesting, yes, and good for 60 wins…
“They’re going to trade for Tulo and put him at third”
Boom….Jete would have to move for Tulo
“Lost says a trade with an NL team is happening FWIW”
Is this the #pinchme trade or has Cashman zeroed in on a can’t-miss LOOGY?
Brett Gardner 2 strikes
2011 :.199 .278 .262 .540 9% better than league average
2010 : .228 .317 .310 .627 39% better than league average
Mark Reynolds career: .145 .236 .276 .512
Its hard for anyone to hit with 2 strikes. Mark Reynolds gets almost all of his on base & power from hitting with less than 2 strikes. Its why I’d suggest he cut it down with 2 strikes, because he isn’t hitting HRs or anything with 2 strikes.
Gardner with 2 strikes is fouling pitches off and working walks even with 2 strikes.
Jerkface December 5th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Brett Gardner 2 strikes
2011 :.199 .278 .262 .540 9% better than league average
2010 : .228 .317 .310 .627 39% better than league average
Mark Reynolds career: .145 .236 .276 .512
Its hard for anyone to hit with 2 strikes. Mark Reynolds gets almost all of his on base & power from hitting with less than 2 strikes. Its why I’d suggest he cut it down with 2 strikes, because he isn’t hitting HRs or anything with 2 strikes.
Gardner with 2 strikes is fouling pitches off and working walks even with 2 strikes.
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nice job
blake December 5th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
“They’re going to trade for Tulo and put him at third”
Boom….Jete would have to move for Tulo
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Jete wouldn’t move for Alex who was like his brother. He’s not moving for Tulo
My guess is that anything is happening that Cashman is going all out for Headley
Your 2012 Yankees:
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That would at least be interesting.
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I assume you mean 2013 Yankees. Yeah that would be interesting, but if you are going to play all the young guys you might as well trade away Cano and Granderson.
Reynolds is garbage. Just because he was hot at the tail end of last season does not mean
he’s worthy of a full time 3rd base job in NY.
I would rather take my chances with an unproven players from the Yankees system.
Guys like Adams or Joseph.
Plus, there very well could be much better players available around the 2013 trade
deadline.
Why rush right now?
PacoDooley December 5th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
jacksquat December 5th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Your 2012 Yankees:
Brett Gardner CF
Derek Jeter SS/DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Curtis Granderson LF
Gary Sanchez C
Slade Heathcott RF
Eduardo Nunez DH/SS
David Adams 3B
Bench: Cervelli, Mustelier, Mesa…
That would at least be interesting.
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Interesting, yes, and good for 60 wins…
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The jokes have been really good today. The day hasn’t been completely bad.
On the one hand I’d be happy if the Yanks got Headley (pending the cost, but on the other I’d miss hearing Jon Miller pronounce Headley’s name when the Pads play the Giants. He does it like he’s announcing the arrival of an aristocratic land baron at the Spring Cotillion.
I say at least 81 wins with that team!
With all the money saved they could sign Greinke.
Go to the Twins offer them Hughes or Nova in a package and bring back Doumit & Plouffe
Trade Hughes and prospects for Headley
Sign AJax to 3/24
Reynolds for anywhere near $7.5 million is a complete waste. This is just like it was in the non-championship years between 2000 and 2009. Guy has a little success against the Yankees (e.g. Jaret Wright) or was successful 10 years ago (e.g. Kenny Lofton), the Yanks go out and sign him. Offer him $2 million. If he declines, move on to the next crappy option.
What would Cashman say to the media? He’s doing an AROD. No info, no presser.
Sign AJax
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I am trying to figure this one out – - – -
edwin jackson
edwin jackson
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Ahhh – wouldn’t he be EJax?
Andrew Jackson
He has really good numbers against Cleveland
Typos have never ever happened in the history of writing.
and Atlanta
Oh my good luck – Doreen and Nick posting – just when i decide to check in after a while – thought reading some of these comments, it’s going to be a while, again…..
Doreen – if you’re still around – I hope you and your family are well. Best wishes for the holidays, happy baking! I agree, these are secondary players – keppinger and chavez – we’re talking about, after all. i wouldn’t be surprised, nor disappointed, to see david adams playing some 3rd base for yanks. the kid’s been in the system for a while, and seems to be at a point where one has to find out if he can play in the majors or not. in many other teams, he’d be a no brainer.
Nick – fyi – i’m enjoying a little bit – well, two fingers worth (it’s been a rough day – actually much worse for other people, if you know what i mean) of caol ila, before dinner. i hope you are well, and have a good evening yourself.
If Lost is right and we’re making a deal with an NL club get excited folks.
Any moment now the deal will be announced where we trade Gary Sanchez, Nova & Joba to Cash’s favorite trading partner the Pittsburgh Pirates for none other than Russell Martin!
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
Typos have never ever happened in the history of writing.
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Sure – but abbreviations – especially with Austin Jackson – it is a bit different – but true – typos happen – I am a multiple offendor – err affender – err offendur – eerrrrr – - – –
G. Love,
Who is “Lost”?
I hear people referring to it on here, don’t know who it is or what his/her level of credibility is.
G. Love,
Who is “Lost”?
I hear people referring to it on here, don’t know who it is or what his/her level of credibility is.
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I do know people become very upset if you post something from Lost at night – - – -
Brett Gardner CF
Derek Jeter SS/DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Curtis Granderson LF
Gary Sanchez C
Slade Heathcott RF
Eduardo Nunez DH/SS
David Adams 3B
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I would at least pay to watch this team.
With 2 amendments:
Tyler Austin instead of Slade the blade.
And Romine instead of Cervelli.
Stoneburner,
I miss Lost…especially Hurley’s fat a$$ cuz it reminded me of PeteAbe.
Mad Prince,
Not sure who he is. He claims to work or have an association with the team & posts rumors here & on Twitter. He called the Tex signing when everyone here thought Swisher was our starting 1b.
I don’t dismiss him like some do. Rumors are fun for some of us & don’t cause steam to come from our ears when someone posts them.
We had a poster here way back when named Bobcat who also broke some news in here before anyone anywhere had it. Not sure if Lost is Bobcat.
Joe, I think I know what you mean and I’m sorry about the rough day for you and them. I had some Dewars last week at my cousin’s house in Arlington VA and I was thinking about how much I wished it was a nice malt instead. Someday I will tell my little story about Caol Ila, but it’s not such a great story and not suitable for the blog.
Doreen, great to see you posting again as well, sorry it came under the circumstances that brought you back, however. You were greatly missed.
The Mad Prince in Pinstripes December 5th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Stoneburner,
I miss Lost…especially Hurley’s fat a$$ cuz it reminded me of PeteAbe.
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I wish PeteAbe was around so he could still be taunted about his Patriots.
However, for me – just speaking for me – there will never be another moment when the Selena Roberts/ARod story was unleashed – - – -
A trade would be great. Something to talk about please.
Doreen & Joe from LI in the same thread plus CB back on the blog today? It’s like homecoming week here on the blog. Good to see all of you posting again.
If Nick would just go away for a few weeks I could get excited again every time I see him post.
nick – i think you do know what i mean. about your caol ila story – i’m sure you were nothing but honorable…..
what circumstances brought doreen back? sounds not so good.
Mad Prince,
Don’t get me started on LOST the show. That show quite honestly went from my favorite show of all time to something I can’t even rewatch now due to the way they ended it. They literally destroyed seasons of great storytelling by screwing up that final season. I haven’t put the Blu Ray set in the player since my wife bought them for me because I hated that final season so passionately.
However, for me – just speaking for me – there will never be another moment when the Selena Roberts/ARod story was unleashed – – – -
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I wasn’t on here at the time…how did Pete react
“Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
However, for me – just speaking for me – there will never be another moment when the Selena Roberts/ARod story was unleashed – – – -
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I wasn’t on here at the time…how did Pete react”
Ever see the end of Hoosiers?
That bad huh smh
Clearly I meant EJax ….although I would love to sign Ajax to 3/24 too!!!
Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
However, for me – just speaking for me – there will never be another moment when the Selena Roberts/ARod story was unleashed – – – -
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I wasn’t on here at the time…how did Pete react
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Oh it was like the Montero situation on “steroids” (bad choice of words?) – but the huge difference is that Pete Abe had a stake in at all – b/c he was biased against ARod – and then there was criticism of Selena and Pete ended up taking her side – and it turned into an attack on the press – I was actually e-mailing the PeteAbe directly – - – -at least that is how I remember it – - – -
LGY December 5th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
A trade would be great. Something to talk about please.
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I hear ya but in the same sense I am pretty scared of an overreaction trade where we give up way too much in terms of prospects for the quick fix @ 3B or OF.
I have no idea how legit lost is….but at this point I’ll take any rumors of something happening….real or fake
Clearly I meant EJax ….although I would love to sign Ajax to 3/24 too!!!
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I thought maybe you found a loophole – and I do apologize – did not mean to be a jerk about it – - – -
Arod didn’t want to have surgery in Nov or Dec because it would ruin his holidays..
The Return of Stoneburner December 5th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
However, for me – just speaking for me – there will never be another moment when the Selena Roberts/ARod story was unleashed – – – -
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I wasn’t on here at the time…how did Pete react
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Oh it was like the Montero situation on “steroids” (bad choice of words?) – but the huge difference is that Pete Abe had a stake in at all – b/c he was biased against ARod – and then there was criticism of Selena and Pete ended up taking her side – and it turned into an attack on the press – I was actually e-mailing the PeteAbe directly – – – -at least that is how I remember it – – – -
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Sounds like something I’m glad I wasn’t here for lol
If it was Headley then it’ll cost a lot….probably Hughes plus at least two of the top 5 guys
Michael Kay declaring war on Yankees fans – - -and I do not mean sabermetric war – total war on Yankees fans – - -I guess Hal and company gave him marching orders – - – -
“what circumstances brought doreen back? sounds not so good.”
I think to report/confirm the passing of GB7. Sorry to have to tell you that if you didn’t know.
Kay total war on the Yankees fans on his radio show – unconditional war on the fan – - -
“The Return of Stoneburner says:
December 5, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Michael Kay declaring war on Yankees fans – – -and I do not mean sabermetric war – total war on Yankees fans – – -I guess Hal and company gave him marching orders – – – -”
It’s really not fair that the Dodgers get all the players AND vin Scully
What is he screaming about Stone?
@JonHeymanCBS: Dbacks still working to get adrubal. #indians looking at stephen drew, dee gordon as possible replacements
They are lowering the payroll essentially – Kay
smh
Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
What is he screaming about Stone?
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I am trying to stay patient through this winter – but even as a fan I am insulted by him – he is calling us ingrates and spoiled – but at a hysterical tone and then his Robin wingman is going back to Jay Buhner and the pre- 1994 days and calling us 28 year spoiled fans – I mean does Kay get a special bonus from YES for essentially &*&^ all over the Yankees fan like this – - – -
Kay is the worst
im with kay, you guys are panicing about jeff keppinger.
i think nunez was the best choice at 3B from day one. i didnt think the yankees would go that route, though, now its starting to look more like they may have to.
so im pretty good with what’s gone on today…
and it is only dec 5th…
nick – i’m truly sorry to read that. i know that you can’t believe everything you read, but, over the years, i’d come to accept gb. maybe i’m just too innocent, or naive (some of the folks who work with would never call me naive…), but, over the years he was just consistent. i know he could be crotchety, but that was part of his “charm”. i guess nurse karloff won’t be coming after him anymore, at least not in this world.
as he would comment – “green beret 7 – rest in peace”
have a good night, nick. catch you later.
Whats this? A family reunion and im not invited? What am I the drunk uncle?
Bobcats famous line- They only tell you what you want to hear. See him hear me.
I say a trade for an Arod type caliber player is in the works and we’re all going to laughing about crying earlier for missing out on Keppinger.
Good to see you old schoolers in.
GO YANKEES!!
Is there any way I can get a transcript of this tirade/rant by Michael Kay – it is crazy, hilarious, spiteful, biased, company sponsored, sad all wrapped up in one – - – -it should go on Yankees Classics it so vitriol – - -
The Return of Stoneburner December 5th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Kay total war on the Yankees fans on his radio show – unconditional war on the fan – – -
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That will help ticket sales.
“i think nunez was the best choice at 3B from day one. i didnt think the yankees would go that route, though, now its starting to look more like they may have to.”
Cashman has already said that wasn’t an option…. He’s terrible there
The Return of Stoneburner December 5th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Against All Odds December 5th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
What is he screaming about Stone?
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I am trying to stay patient through this winter – but even as a fan I am insulted by him – he is calling us ingrates and spoiled – but at a hysterical tone and then his Robin wingman is going back to Jay Buhner and the pre- 1994 days and calling us 28 year spoiled fans – I mean does Kay get a special bonus from YES for essentially &*&^ all over the Yankees fan like this – – – -
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I like Kay more than others but boy he can be a shill at times. I’m not sure he even knows about the LT and what it really means.
The Return of Stoneburner December 5th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Is there any way I can get a transcript of this tirade/rant by Michael Kay – it is crazy, hilarious, spiteful, biased, company sponsored, sad all wrapped up in one – – – -it should go on Yankees Classics it so vitriol – – -
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Transcript no but it will probably be on their podcast.
“jacksquat December 5th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
The Return of Stoneburner December 5th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Kay total war on the Yankees fans on his radio show – unconditional war on the fan – – -
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That will help ticket sales.”
They’re going to browbeat into buying tickets and $15 Lobel’s Steak Sandwiches after we drop $36 to park.
Of course Kay is a stooge for his employer. He thanks Hal twice a month.
What do you prefer Reynolds, Youkilis or no one? Those are the choices.
blake December 5th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
“i think nunez was the best choice at 3B from day one. i didnt think the yankees would go that route, though, now its starting to look more like they may have to.”
Cashman has already said that wasn’t an option…. He’s terrible there
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Nunie basically has no spot on the team.
Glove,
Dont know whats worse.
Lost finale or Supranos. Both made me wish I didnt start watching them.
“What do you prefer Reynolds, Youkilis or no one? Those are the choices.”
I think Id rather have Reynolds if I have to choose between those two (hope I don’t)
The point Kay just made about the Yanks not being able to give out multi-year deals this off-season because they effect next year’s $189M budget is completely valid. If the Yankees can reset their luxury tax by being below $189M for just one year in 2014 it’s probably worth it…
BUT, why are the Yankees being shy about giving 1 year deals for 2013 that have no effect on 2014??? They should have given Chavez $3.5M for this year if that’s what it would take for him. They should give AJ Piezynzki a nice 1 year deal. They should be able to give Ichiro a nice 1 year deal instead of going cheap with Nate Sh.tholes… Why are they seemingly being cheap on 1 year deals that have nothing to do with $189M in 2014????
That makes NO SENSE.
austinmac December 5th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Of course Kay is a stooge for his employer. He thanks Hal twice a month.
What do you prefer Reynolds, Youkilis or no one? Those are the choices.
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neither .. put a SPer in a package that will bring back a 3rd baseman and either a catcher or RFer
What Now?
Doumit & Plouffe
Too bad they didn’t draft Nick Castellanos instead of Cito Culver
first off, you know not to listen to what cashman says about what the yankees are going to do. he has no intention of telling you what they are really thinking.
secondly, i do believe that the yankees dont WANT to put nunez at 3b and the only way it’s going to happen is if a bunch of other things don’t work out, one way or another. and a bunch of other things did not work out today, so we’re somewhat closer to the yankees reconsidering that decision.
the next set of options probably include a trade including either a third baseman coming in or nunez going out, both of which bring up esciting possibilities.
so to me, since i didnt like the keppinger/chavez/youkilis plan and 2/3 of that is dead now and the other is on life support, so that’s a good thing to me.
make a big trade, cashman.
if not, nunez goes to third and its all good.
blake December 5th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Too bad they didn’t draft Nick Castellanos instead of Cito Culver
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Culver was such a reach smh
Have New Knee, Mustard Layer and Adams battle it out WWF style for 3rd base.
Resetting the luxury tax is not that big of a deal at all. Going from a 50% tax to 17.5% on $210M payroll is about a $7M savings.
SoS,
First off, good to see you as always.
As for most disappointing, I have to go with Lost. That final season made the previous seasons pointless. It was such a total let down. At least the Sopranos you can rewatch (although I don’t). I don’t love the Sopranos like some claim to do, but I respect how they went out. Lost killed all the momentum of the show the way they went out.
Right now I’m just hoping that Breaking Bad gets it right. That’s my favorite show and if they end it well, and I believe they will, it will go down as one of the best series ever.
Also hoping they get Game of Thrones & Walking Dead right when those series reach their finales.
The guy who wrote the Game of Thrones books actually called out the Lost creators and told them what a horrible job they did ending the series. He’s promising that won’t happen with his books and the subsequent show.
The amount of misinformation out there is crazy.
People are either just scared of by the 50% number because it sounds bad or think the entire payroll is taxed at 50%.
Resetting the luxury tax is not that big of a deal at all. Going from a 50% tax to 17.5% on $210M payroll is about a $7M savings.
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People have trouble understanding the concept of marginal tax brackets. The Yankees are only taxed on overages, so its a relatively small amount of the payroll that is subject to it.
7 million would have gotten you guys Keppy today
LGY December 5th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Resetting the luxury tax is not that big of a deal at all. Going from a 50% tax to 17.5% on $210M payroll is about a $7M savings.
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You might want to pass that onto Kay.
G Love,
I remember Bobcat. And I agree, rumors are fun. I wonder if this Lost character is on to something.
As for LOST the show, couldn’t agree more on how its ending sucked.
I merely was looking for a way to tie in to PeteAbe’s gargantuan extremities and love for cheeseburgers, so Hurley and Lost/LOST seemed perfect.
GLove,
Havnt seen breaking bad. Will have to look into it. I have been glued to Walking Dead though and it was a great season or mid season so far. Also like Game of Thrones and yes hope it doesnt dissapoint. Its like watching 3 hours of a Yankee loss. All I can think of is damn I could have used this time to take a nap. Imagine how much beauty sleep(not sure if thats what you call it if your a man) hours I could have had if those two shows bomb in the end.
LGY,
I heard Feisand on MLB radio the other day, and it sure sounded like he thought the tax was on the entire payroll. They risk so much in goodwill for ultimately little savings.
SoS,
Watching Walking Dead & Homeland back to back on Sunday night’s I feel like I need a mental health day on Monday’s. It’s intense.
Definitely check out Breaking Bad. It’s brilliant, but I know some people hate the drug part of it so much they can’t handle it. It’s streamable on Netflix if you have that.
Will do G.
Catch you later.
I don’t think it’s as much about the tax as it is just havin an excuse to lower the payroll.
Just for fun: (to see what it’d feel like)
Jeter SS
Headley 3B
Cano 2B
Tex 1B
Hamilton LF
Arod DH
AJ C
Ichiro/Hairston RF
Gardner CF
Just read Nate signed by Cubs.