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Olney: Yankees getting closer to Ichiro deal

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 10, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

From Buster Olney: The Yankees are getting closer to a deal with right fielder Ichiro Suzuki. Olney goes so far as to say the deal could be done within a few days. Ichiro would give the Yankees an all-left-handed outfield, but he would also give the Yankees an outfield with terrific range and speed. Even if he’s a step slower than he used to be, Ichiro can still move pretty well. He seemed incredibly popular in the Yankees clubhouse last season.

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125 Responses to “Olney: Yankees getting closer to Ichiro deal”

  1. BD (Boston Dave) December 10th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Good decision

  2. Shame Spencer December 10th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    Shame Spencer December 10th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    No one gives a crap that Youk was a Red Sox.. the ‘complaining’ about it is based on the following facts:

    That he’s an awful defensive 3B and is a major injury risk.

    The reason we need a 3B is because our $30 million dollar a year 3B is an even larger injury risk.

    Paying an injury risk $12 million a year and evoking Bon Jovi’s Living on a Prayer as your motto hoping to god he doesn’t get injured is…incredibly stupid.

  3. Jerkface December 10th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Also he is ugly and potentially not very good. I don’t think they should be paying Youk 12 million if they have a budget.

  4. DocTodd December 10th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Why is it that when the Yanks pursue a player, it takes forever for a deal to be done? When other teams want guys, you don’t hear about it for days, you just hear that it’s a done deal!

  5. austinmac December 10th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Agreed Shame. Plus he can’t even hit anymore.

  6. Captain Clutch December 10th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    I get the feeling that he’s waiting for a multi-year deal also and just kind of keeping the Yanks offer in his back pocket. Can’t blame him for doing that. I thought I read that Cleveland was going to use Reynolds at 1B some so maybe they still get Youk to that 2 year deal.
    ——————————-

    When an agent says a teams offer is “legitimate” it’s obvious that he wants the whole world to know that he has an offer on the table. Otherwise there is no reason for him to say anything to the media. It’s time for Cashman to wake up and move on to plan D.

  7. Patrick December 10th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    Also he is ugly

    This is the key reason why the Yankees should avoid Youk

  8. austinmac December 10th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    If Youkilis goes elsewhere, we will begin to hear Adams may be ready. Suits me. Can we at least try to have one player who might get better?

    Ichiro is a player I admire. He just doesn’t bring enough offense to a team who will need all the offense it can get. Plus, this insures we will get some crummy RH outfielder as a platoon guy.

  9. PhiltheThrill December 10th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Not thread worthy.

  10. austinmac December 10th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    I really don’t see Youkilis coming. Some suggest, he is still negotiating. Not with the Yankees. One year, and the money seems more than enough. I don’t think he wants to tarnish his Red Sox legacy to that fan base. His agent is trying to get him two somewhere.

  11. Nick in SF December 10th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    It’s not that he was a Red Sock, it’s that he was an obnoxious Red Sock. I know, I know, redundant. But think about it.

  12. Captain Clutch December 10th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    If the Yanks take the money they offered to Youk and add it to Ichiro’s contract plus add about $5m more they can get Hamilton. Instead they are willing to use $20m on 2 players that will hit at the bottom of the order instead of in the middle which is what they really need. Cashman is filling up the empty spots but is ignoring the offenses major problem like he does every off season for the last couple of years.

  13. austinmac December 10th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    If he doesn’t come, then the team is 0 for other free agents. I hear McGehee in the offing. He too was okay in 2007.

  14. grouchonyy December 10th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    “Also he is ugly”
    Claudell Washington ugly?

  15. mick December 10th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    If the Yanks take the money they offered to Youk and add it to Ichiro’s contract plus add about $5m more they can get Hamilton.
    ===========================
    for one year…

  16. Duh Innings II December 10th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    In this order:

    $5M base to Soria he’ll take to pitch with Mo

    $3M Jack Hannahan he’ll take

    Three years and $30M ($10M a year) to Soriano who’d cost the Yanks only a half a mil more in 2013 ($11M he made in 2012 vs. $10M salary + $1.5M buyout = $11.5M he’d make in 2013.)

    $4M to whoever accepts it first Youkilis or Hairston and if both reject that, offer that to Jerry Hairston Jr. who’d take it.

    There. The best bullpen in baseball. THREE closer options in case Mo falls to injury again who’d also be three options for the closer after Mo if he retires after 2013 (Soriano, Robertson, and Soria.) Three fundamentally sound players (Ichiro, Hannahan, and one from either Hairston or Youkilis.)

  17. austinmac December 10th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    It is difficult to know what role Cashman plays. Was it he who didn’t go after the big ticket international guys or did Hal reject his arguments? Can he target guys into 2014?

    I do know that whoever it sitting in his spot now has an extraordinarily difficult job. He has many needs and no long term money. None. Good players won’t sign for one year deals. He has no upper minor leaguers to use or to trade. He can deal, but that does create more holes.

    That’s why I hope Ys Guy is right that when they see it doesn’t work, they will change the cap philosophy. It sure doesn’t seem like it.

  18. austinmac December 10th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Soria already signed with Texas.

  19. Jerkface December 10th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    $5M base to Soria he’ll take to pitch with Mo

    Soria is on the Rangers. You really need to check this stuff before you write a big post based on signing these guys. Also there is no reason why they should pay Soriano 10 million in 2014.

  20. chicken little December 10th, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    I get the impression that Youk would rather play for a competitor not named the Yankees. If the Dodgers offer him decent money (or someone else does), he goes there. His agent will keep this going for a couple of days. Dodgers may turn to Youk now …

  21. chicken little December 10th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    I also get the impression that Cash isn’t allowed to talk to any other 3B options until Youk decides. Seems Hal is a “one thing at a time” guy, which could be a real problem if Hamilton comes to the Yanks and says make me your best offer and Hal has Cash tell him “wait until we finalize a deal with Ichiro.”

  22. austinmac December 10th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Now, Cashman is hamstrung waiting on Youkilis. Youkilis “Just say no” and let’s move on.

  23. Nick in SF December 10th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    I love Ichiro and I’ll be excited to get a full year of him, however… he made a lot of sense last year to replace Gardner once it was finally ascertained that the Gritty One was lost for the rest of the season (or until such a time as he could return in limited duty).

    So bringing back Ichiro now while retaining Gardner seems redundant. Bringing in Ichiro to then put Gardner in a package for….? I don’t know. All seems fishy.

  24. Jackson December 10th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    http://m.nypost.com/p/blogs/ya.....wj4DakWgON

  25. chicken little December 10th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    What seems fishy to me is that Cashman foams at the mouth about his big hairy monsters and then spends the off-season attempting to assemble a collection of mediocre hitters, none of whom fit the definition of big, hairy monsters. Perhaps next time he should be honest “I like big hairy monsters. Big hairy monsters get paid a lot. Hal won’t spend the money. So, I target not so hairy monsters.”

  26. exiledintampa December 10th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Mike Silva ?@MikeSilvaMedia

    Mongo Just told Mad Dog @MadDogUnleashed that he’s got inside info from agent the Phillies have signed Josh Hamilton

  27. blake December 10th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Oh yea well how bout this

    @MLBSportsReport: BREAKING: #Yankees sign OF Josh Hamilton to a 6 year $150M contract.

  28. blake December 10th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    Obviously that report is nonsense

  29. Bronx Jeers December 10th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    Could it be that Kevin Youkilis just isn’t that into us?

  30. NYY fan in NH December 10th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    I have no problem seeing Youk on this team for 1 year. It’s one year people. He’s a gamer and does hit in the clutch. He’s the perfect hard nosed player this team needs. Now the Sox, on the other hand will have a problem with it. I guarantee that….

  31. blake December 10th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    It wouldn’t surprise me for the Phillies to dog Hamilton….after all Rubin Amaro loves spending loads of money on players that make little sense to their team

  32. NYY fan in NH December 10th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Ichiro is a catalyst. A good one at that. He’s got the intangles that mesh well with this team. Cano is our cog. See what we get out of him for one more year. He should put up MVP numbers if he wants to get paid. Hamilton and Cano would be awesome…

  33. RadioKev December 10th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    Youk wouldn’t be a bad pick up, but $12m is an overpay. I guess everything is an overpay this offseason. Bringing back Ichiro is nice..

    This offseason is really playing out quickly. I wonder if Cashman’s patience will be a weakness.

  34. Mike Ri December 10th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    Be so nice to see Hamilton in pinstripes

  35. NYY fan in NH December 10th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    “Edward’s Restaurant, on West Broadway, is like a shrine to Kevin Youkilis, with Youk’s Hot Sauce and a red wine named after him and bobbleheads and photos of him on display. Whenever the Red Sox were in town, Youkilis would bring a group of teammates to the bistro and according to his uncle, often spoke about his desire to someday play in New York.”

    per Wallace Matthews

    Youkilis does have ties to NYC….

  36. MTU December 10th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    So which right-handed hitter is going to be Ichiro’s platoon partner ?

  37. PhiltheThrill December 10th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Melky Mesa.

  38. MTU December 10th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Kinda doubt that one Phil.

    ;)

  39. Nick in SF December 10th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    Youk’s brother in SF needs to speak up soon or lose out for the season. :neutral:

  40. kd December 10th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    bring back posada!

    in reality, if youk hits 230 and is making 12 million, you know they’re going to keep giving him ab’s. rather see what adams can do until the trade deadline. even if he hits 230 with some power, he can be sent back down. youk clogs up a roster spot.

    he’s not the player he was and back injuries are tough to deal with. just ask eric chavez

  41. Warning Track Power December 10th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    Ichiro is not a bad option.
    I don’t care so much for the all lefty outfield, but that can be fixed when/if the Yankees
    trade Granderson before 2013 begins.

  42. MTU December 10th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    The word is that they have been shopping Grandy for some time.

    No one appears all that interested.

  43. PhiltheThrill December 10th, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    It never appears like the Yanks are making a trade, then they make one.

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    So I see there’s no announcement that we’ve signed Youkilis – no news is good news.

    Why sign Youkalis when we know that it’s a lack of youth that’s killing us?

  45. Warning Track Power December 10th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    KD
    I am very excited to see what Adams can do. I would not rule out him winning a back-up
    job with an excellent ST.
    If that comes true, Youk can play some games at 3rd, spell Tex at 1st and allow for a young kid like Adams to get some AB’s as well.
    I would HATE to think that Youk will be counted on playing everyday until ARod returns in
    the summer.

  46. saucY December 10th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    So (mostly) everyone is down on the Youk offer?

    I wouldn’t mind him taking the current offer, with all the other inevitable offensive downgrades we will have going into 2013…

  47. Nick in SF December 10th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Could be a typo — it’s the lack of Youk that’s killing us.

  48. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    kd December 10th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    bring back posada!
    ////

    He’s certainly not “too old” to be on this team, and he can probably still outhit most everyone on it.

  49. MTU December 10th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Phil-

    You are preaching to the choir.

    Been advocating some trades for a while now.

    Yanks seem more interested in just putting on bandaids at the moment.

    We’ll see. There is still plenty of time for a big deal to go down.

  50. kd December 10th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    wtp,

    if they really are going to pay him 12 million, he’s your everyday 3b. until he gets hurt of course. arod is then the dh for 2013.

    it’s silly to me. youk was never an elite defensive player, regardless of what the boston media tells you. why not see what adams can do and address it at the trade deadline? maybe texas is totally out of it and they trade beltre….

  51. austinmac December 10th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    Kd,

    First, Texas won’t be out of it and second, Beltre has a long contract.

  52. MTU December 10th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    Won’t hurt my feelings any if Youkilis signs elswhere.

    ;)

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    kd,

    The Yankees are already telling people that they think Adams is “not ready.” Well, he’s 25 years old, can hit, and isn’t remotely a butcher at 3B. He seems a “safe” option with some upside, but they have already told the world he’s not in their plans.
    ///

    They are making some “big” deal; hopefully something that doesn’t wipe out the system and that actually gives Jeter/Andy/Mo/Cano a prayer come October. Sorry – Alex, too. Hope he makes it back whole, but I have my doubts…

  54. MTU December 10th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Upton is still in play but that would take the Yankees securing a ss from another team.

    The asking price for Cabrera, for example, was rumored to be 3 top quality prospects.

  55. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    I’d be more excited about Ichiro coming back if he were a complementary piece. But, he’s eminently likeable, root-able, and still fun to watch. He also has a pure baseball type spirit and a certain wit, in the way he moves. That’s always welcome.

  56. Against All Odds December 10th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    Why sign Youkalis when we know that it’s a lack of youth that’s killing us?

    ———————

    Because they trust vets more than the kids

  57. Nilsson December 10th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    A lot of the 2013 projections actually target Youkilis for a bounce back type of season. Obviously health will be important, but a one-year flyer is not a terrible idea.

    This move also buys Adams — who I think the Yanks like — a little more time for seasoning in the minors. Seems like he’s been down there forever, but he’s never had an at-bat at triple A.

  58. yankeefeminista December 10th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    austinmac December 10th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    Why don’t agree it sure would be nice to have a good, young hitter on the rise? I would like someone who I can realistically hope might turn into an all star in the future. That would get me and, I expect, a lot of fans excited.
    _____
    Sure was fun watching Montero at the Stadium in Sept. 2011. Even BP was fun, watching the kid hit oppo bombs. I am sure G Love, Pruf and whoever else was at all those games at the Stadium would concur. There was a lot of excitement in the air. I’d love to have another player who I could watch mature, like I got to watch Cano do.

  59. PhiltheThrill December 10th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    MTU,

    I actually don’t mind them putting on bandaids for a season or so, because we have a future core group that should start arriving by `14, one or two maybe even at some point this year.

    I believe Cash is up to trades, and I will only object to those if they blow up the farm, or compromise the future core.

  60. Warning Track Power December 10th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    KD
    You have to look big picture.
    There is no guarantee that Adams is ready. The team thinks he might be ready, but proving in over the course of 30 games in ST 2013 is another animal.
    Youk is a good signing because the Yankees know what he’s capable of and has played plenty of games in the very difficult AL East environment.

    Adams will get his chances, enough AB’s this spring to win a back-up job.

  61. RadioKev December 10th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    MTU December 10th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
    The word is that they have been shopping Grandy for some time.

    No one appears all that interested.
    ————

    I don’t think GMs are climbing over themselves to offer Cash a trade proposal for Grandy, but I bet there are several interested organizations. I imagine Cashman is weighing his options. I don’t think anyone is going to blow him away with an offer, but there could be some strategical upgrades in there.

    Or I could be making that all up.

  62. The Genius Maker December 10th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    austinmac December 10th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    I had hoped this off season would begin to address long term issues with age and offensive issues going forward. We saw the very best we can hope for from Ichiro and it was a .794 OPS. His defense was good, but I saw no evidence of his noted arm. He is a below average right fielder.

    Youkilis if he is kind enough to accept the offer, is a shadow of his former productive self. I used to hate when he came up. His numbers in Chicago were no good. He reportedly has a bad back.

    The one year, declining player methods is directionless and simply delaying and making more difficult future needs to get younger.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Totally agree…take the money for these to and you have probably almost 20 mil and you can get a real player or even two at the trade deadline to pick up their cash. Move Jeter to 3rd and play nunez at SS. Jeter needs to be moved anyway and this is the perfect opportunity.

    Also, Youk is a good defensive player so whoever said he wasn’t was mistaken. I still think 12 million is a bad gamble though

  63. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    Odds, you and I both know the genesis of all these false moves – it lies with the misuse of a certain, young, hard throwing right-handed pitcher with a deadly slider.

    But, on…

  64. yankeefeminista December 10th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    Maybe Youk hasn’t signed with us yet because he’s been reading Lohud. Keep up the good work, gang! ;)

  65. Against All Odds December 10th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    Odds, you and I both know the genesis of all these false moves – it lies with the misuse of a certain, young, hard throwing right-handed pitcher with a deadly slider.

    But, on…

    ———————-

    They have been shaky ever since lol.

  66. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Sure was fun watching Montero at the Stadium in Sept. 2011. Even BP was fun, watching the kid hit oppo bombs. I am sure G Love, Pruf and whoever else was at all those games at the Stadium would concur. There was a lot of excitement in the air. I’d love to have another player who I could watch mature, like I got to watch Cano do.
    ///

    It was spine tingling, watching him hit bombs all over the park. The Yankee players in BP also were a rapt audience when he was in the cage.

    With the Yankees quiet as a mouse, why do I have that feeling that it will be deja vu all over again?

    Why, for instance, do I feel I’ll be saying adios to a another latino catcher who also hits bombs away?

  67. MTU December 10th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Phil-

    I believe we have enough guys to consider parting with some of them to get what we want.

    I don’t like a whole hog bet on the Farm.

    It’s a risky strategy. As you know most prospects fall due to injury, or underperformance.

    It ain’t easy to become a bona fide ML’er.

    I think they should keep the guys who they think are the best ones and move the others.

    For instance, I believe Heathcott is an excellent trade candidate right now. His value is high due to the AFL and IMO he is a an accident waiting to happen.

    Doubt very much he’ll stay healthy longterm with his style of play.

  68. yankeefeminista December 10th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Youk is a good defensive player at 3b? Uh, no.

    And as far as Youuuuuuking goes. I want my first and only time to have been that hilarious day at NYS in 2009 when Youk played left field.

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    They have been shaky ever since lol.
    ///

    Your mission, should you accept it, is to find that post you wrote. I have tried, and I have failed :(

  70. G. Love December 10th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Yanksfem,

    It was more than fun watching Jesus hit that Sept. All I had was the hyperbole from you guys here in the forum which I had my doubts on. Then to see a young Yankee hitter who also could play catcher take a low outside pit with power to RF?

    Let’s just watching his at bats that month reminded of what it was like to watch Daryl Strawberry hit as both a Met & a Yankee. Everyone stopped what they were doing to watch them hit because you knew if they made contact it was going somewhere fast.

    At that point in time I was already sick & tired of watching Tex, Swisher, Grandy & even Arod flail away and do nothing with the low outside pitch. Watching a rookie use the bat in a smart way and put a swing on that pitch got me so excited.

    I thought for sure we had our cleanup hitter for the next 15 years.

  71. Against All Odds December 10th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    They have been shaky ever since lol.
    ///

    Your mission, should you accept it, is to find that post you wrote. I have tried, and I have failed :(

    ————————

    I’m trying to remember the words within the post. There has to be a way to pull it. I should have just book marked it at the time.

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    yankeefeminista December 10th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Youk is a good defensive player at 3b? Uh, no.

    And as far as Youuuuuuking goes. I want my first and only time to have been that hilarious day at NYS in 2009 when Youk played left field.
    ///

    Haha, I was there for that, too. The derisive “Youuuuuuuk” cries were almost as satisfying as chanting: “over-rated!!” clap, clap, clap-clap-clap! “over-rated!!”” clap, clap, clap-clap-clap!
    at a certain pig-snouted fraud who argued he, not Rivera, should close out the ASG… ;)

  73. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    I’m trying to remember the words within the post. There has to be a way to pull it. I should have just book marked it at the time.
    ///

    Dude, don’t remember the actual words, but you nailed that sucker.

  74. Against All Odds December 10th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    I thought for sure we had our cleanup hitter for the next 15 years.

    —————————

    It was fun watching him do that. Most of us already had him as Cano’s running mate.

  75. Against All Odds December 10th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    I’m trying to remember the words within the post. There has to be a way to pull it. I should have just book marked it at the time.
    ///

    Dude, don’t remember the actual words, but you nailed that sucker.

    ————————

    Thanks man. Maybe Chad can pull it up.

  76. Warning Track Power December 10th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    Youk>Chavez
    Youk>Nunez
    Youk>Mark Reynolds
    Youk>Hanahan

  77. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Let’s just watching his at bats that month reminded of what it was like to watch Daryl Strawberry hit as both a Met & a Yankee. Everyone stopped what they were doing to watch them hit because you knew if they made contact it was going somewhere fast.
    ///

    GLove, it was a similar feeling at Trenton while he was there, that’s why some of us were so excited. Ball’s already over the plate and the kid hasn’t even got his swing started and then boom, flick of those lightening wrists and the ball’s just going, going….

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Thanks man. Maybe Chad can pull it up.
    ///

    I thought I had emailed it to Cashman, but I must have just had the intention to find it and do so, but didn’t end up doing it. Sure, enlist Chad! :D

  79. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Against All Odds December 10th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    I thought for sure we had our cleanup hitter for the next 15 years.

    —————————

    It was fun watching him do that. Most of us already had him as Cano’s running mate.
    ///

    Sanchez is next. To be traded, that is :(.

  80. Against All Odds December 10th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Thanks man. Maybe Chad can pull it up.
    ///

    I thought I had emailed it to Cashman, but I must have just had the intention to find it and do so, but didn’t end up doing it. Sure, enlist Chad! :D

    ——————————

    If not Chad then Randy he pulls up posts like they’re locked and loaded.

  81. yankee21 December 10th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Always been an Ichiro fan. I like he is coming back for another go.

    However, he is at an age where regular days off is key for him to be productive.

    Hopefully, NY if not going after big fish, do recognize the need to sign or trade for a solid RH bat to platoon in RF with Ichiro or spell Gardner, when Brett either runs into his typical month long funk at the plate or gets hurt.

  82. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    ——————————

    If not Chad then Randy he pulls up posts like they’re locked and loaded.
    ////

    Was it 2011?

  83. comnsnse December 10th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Is anyone else panicking about whether the Yankee franchise is doomed?

    These constant rants from bloggers about this off season are totally indifferent to the value placed on the brand by the world’s biggest media mogul.

    Now I like Murdoch about as much as I like the ageing process,but this man would not purchase 49% which will become 80% in two years,if he planned to depreciate the brand. See the Dodger’sr deal!

    And make no mistake,without Yankee success there is no brand,and equally importantly no ad monies! No one is paying to see Michael Kay interviews or Sterling prattle.

    So folks chill out,while we may be suffering a setback,it’s temporary.

    I will pass this suggestion on to Rupert the next time we break bread.
    Fire this stiff Cashman and bring in someone with better scouts.

    Casman has done zilch and will not without the Yankee dollar,which he obviously has done wisely! Oh, and please get rid of those Stein pretenders!

  84. comnsnse December 10th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    NOT,not,not done wisely! Cashman,although I could have been thinking of another version on that name! lol

  85. Against All Odds December 10th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Against All Odds December 10th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    I thought for sure we had our cleanup hitter for the next 15 years.

    —————————

    It was fun watching him do that. Most of us already had him as Cano’s running mate.
    ///

    Sanchez is next. To be traded, that is :( .

    ——

    If the ppl that have faith in Cashman are waiting for his ninja move then yea some of the kids Hal is banking on will be moved.

  86. Against All Odds December 10th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

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  87. PhiltheThrill December 10th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    MTU,

    Disagree on Heathcott. I think he’s future core. In fact, I think he, Mason Williams and Tyler Austin are the next outfield. There have been lots of players who were injured a lot in the minor then got right and had great careers.

    One thing the Yanks have done over the past several years is improve the scouting department. Thus they are making better judgments on amateurs and better players are entering and making their ways up the system. Oh and in case anyone doesn’t know they added Mike Leuzinger last week, who did a lot of drafting for the Pirates and found Kemp when he was with the Dodgers.

    In any event, when the Yanks can bring up a regular, he saves them tens of millions of dollars over the first six years. So the way to get the payroll down has always been to do it from the farm, and now we have a farm that’s gonna produce some actual Yanks.

    In fact, I think we have two tiers of farmhands that could get us through the next couple of years. The first tier includes Adams, Joseph, the Almontes, Mesa and Romine. The second tier that’s only a year or so behind is Wiliams, Heathcott, Austin, Flores and Sanchez. The second tier seems to have some serious core candidates and I want to see them get their chances.

    I would be open to trading anyone from that first tier but not from the second tier.

  88. MTU December 10th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Thanks for your take Phil but I must respectfully disagree.

    IMO there is no way we can or should keep all of the guys you mentioned.

    There’s a lot of redundancy there.

    For example, I’d keep one of Williams or Heathcott (told ya which one and why).

    One of Austin or Flores ( preferably Austin).

    Sanchez is a special case. I keep him.

  89. Deal With It December 10th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    comnsnse ? ? who is this dude ?

  90. MTU December 10th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    New thread —->

  91. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Heathcott has good bat speed and a nice swing, and can run and has a very good arm. He’s dynamic and can beat you in a variety of ways.

    The problem is the way he plays. Could he learn a more phlegmatic style of play and still be effective? Probably not – I think his on-field personality is part of how he drives his talents. The question has never been talent, but whether he doesn’t just detonate himself with his zealous game!

    I have to say I am thoroughly excited about Anderson Feliz, and hope he can take what really looks like five raw tools and turn them into a high level of baseball competence. He’s just a thrilling raw talent, not to mention a switchy. I can’t wait to see Miguel Andujar, too (the 3B who doesn’t get talked up, primarily because Bichette is theoretically closer).

  92. Deal With It December 10th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Would have been nice to unload a combo of Grandy, Hughes, Phelps, Nova for the haul Tampa got from KC……just sayin.

  93. ariel December 10th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    “So folks chill out,while we may be suffering a setback,it’s temporary.”

    That’s we said in 1965!!!! ( I doubt many of you were around then)….and “temporary” lasted until 1976. The “feel” seems strikingly similar, unfortunately.

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