Yankees opt out of MLB/StubHub deal
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 10, 2012 
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This afternoon, Major League Baseball announced that it has entered into a new agreement with StubHub to be the league’s secondary ticket market. However, the Yankees are one of three teams to opt out of the agreement. Newsday reports that the Yankees will instead work with TicketMaster. Here’s the quick Associated Press story about the MLB/StubHub deal.
NEW YORK (AP) — Major League Baseball has agreed to a new five-year deal with StubHub as its secondary ticket market. The original contract started in 2007 and expired after last season. Financial terms of the agreement announced Monday were not disclosed.
MLB Advanced Media President and CEO Bob Bowman says “this renewal reflects its successes in an ever-evolving space.”
StubHub is the world’s largest ticket marketplace. It allows fans to buy and sell tickets to events at market-rate prices. StubHub President Chris Tsakalakis says the company plans to use new technology to improve consumers’ experiences, especially on mobile devices.
StubHub spokesman Glenn Lehrman says the New York Yankees, Los Angeles Angels and Chicago Cubs have opted out of the deal.
so we can assume that the yankees have worked out a deal that makes the more money dumping tickets on ticketmaster than they were making dumping tickets on stubhub.
PhiltheThrill December 10th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I don’t undertand what went so wrong in the midst of Tex’s prime. Sheesh.
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Became pull happy with the short porch and hasn’t adjusted to his bat speed slowing down. I also remember what former espn NY radio host Brandon Tierney said when he became a Yankee which was: I’m happy they signed Tex but he looks like a guy that won’t age well. His body looks boxy. I don’t know about him long term.
i really think that RF fence has really hurt tex and granderson. and no doubt it’s hurt philyews.
i sure wish they could move it out or make it taller in the power alley but they stuck themselves with what they have for the life of the stadium most likely.
Dodgers payroll is around 250 million, 270 million including their posting fee for Ryu
i guess they could do some kind of trick like putting up a 15′ plexiglass panel in front of the bleachers through the power alley to make it more normal for hitters and pitchers, some bush league team up in new england has somthing like that…
Here’s the Hughes’ quote on his stride: “I’ve gone through a lot of mechanical changes, especially stemming from the hamstring injury I had my first year in the big leagues. My stride, and things like that, have never quite been the same. There have been adjustments I’ve had to make, but I’m feeling better with my breaking ball now. I wouldn’t say it’s as good now as it was then, but I’m trying to get it there.”
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....epertoire/
As for the Yanks integrating with Ticketmaster. Now let’s see what the Yanks set the ticket resale floor as. Meanwhile Randy Levine and Lonn Trost will tell us, the Yankees are trying to protect the value of STH’s tix. SMH.
Yankeefem, didn’t Lonn Trost tell fans who complained when they were given obstructed view seats without being informed that they were such, that they were lucky to get into the building??
Yes, that’s the article on Hughes I was thinking of. He’s well spoken, that kid
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Well, nice to see some fresh faces here, informed about and discussing the system. Even so, the Montero talk has given me an enormous migraine. Bet Myers’ bat isn’t as fast as Jesus’s.
Royals’ fans on the boards have my sympathy. Most of them are miserable. I get that.
Goodnight, folks.
Now let’s see what the Yanks set the ticket resale floor as
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you can be sure they will be above face w/ fees
this will just lower their attendance
they must take the public for fools
stubhub was the only way the general public could afford tickets
It’s like the Yankees are doing everything in their power to alienate the fanbase this winter.
Including threatening to add Youk… Pinch me, please.
they will pay, not us…
the longer it takes, the more i think he’s not coming.
fans will have to cash in their life insurance to go to games…
Another move to bolster the team for sale?
I do agree they are disregarding the fans. Generally, not a good idea to alienate customers of any business.
Pruf, you mean this Lonn quote?:
““When we built the sports bar we knew architecturally there is an architectural shadow,” he said. “And that means there are a group of seats that are in the bleachers that if you are sitting very close to either the rightfield or leftfield side of the sports bar, you may not see the opposite side.
“We knew that going in, and to that extent we pre-prepared to put televisions in the wall, as well as that big screen so you don’t miss anything.”
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....to-5-8486/
mick, not for this team I won’t. That was when we still had Montero.
And FTR, I didn’t cash in my life insurance.
YF – Lonn Trost, what a loser.
I’m going to hit the sack.
I leave you with this:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......d=18874809
I think this will only be a bad offseason if they trade the top prospects. I don’t at all mind being patient.
Don’t cash in your Youk insurace either.
i saw montero hit a ball once in ST
he pinch hit in the 9th and made the last out
man did he hit that ball hard….the sound was different
you must have had a huge policy if your divs were enough to buy a seasons worth of baseball.
sure you didn’t borrow some cash value and are now paying back with interest?
Yup, Montero had a loud, Yankee type bat. I saw him hit some bombs.
Pruf, cruel.
saw him hit one over the CF wall in tampa…had high hopes for that lad.
Phil mick is being sarcastic
if they keep up the nonsense they will start seeing “crowds” of less than 20,000…it happened before, can happen again.
the 1st strike will be thrown by the STH.
with stubhub gone, discount tix will be gone and so will the crowds.
instant karma to the suits.
Phil mick is being sarcastic
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No. Just stating what I saw. I was a Montero groupie.
No you were not stop it lol.
I saw it coming but didn’t believe it when I heard of the trade.
Tried to dismiss it asap as I value my mental health.
Was looking forward to see what he would do…
AAO
I am not an animal.
I don’t believe you for one second mick
which lie don’t you believe AAO?
Cashman’s pre- meeting comments about the Yankees still having the power to act seems incongruous to the story he had no authority to act at the meetings. What is the reality?
All of them
who cares what cashman says?
AAO
you don’t believe my scouting report on montero?
Where did the story about Cashman having no authority to sign anyone at the meetings come from? Boras? Some other agent?
I don’t believe you were a Montero groupie. Not saying you were a Montero hater
from? Boras? Some other agent?
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from cashman.
“Where did the story about Cashman having no authority to sign anyone at the meetings come from?”
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i believe it was in the WSJ. while i dont care about or follow these rumors, i heard mike francessa say that the yankees claim that this story was untrue and planted by boras.
so who knows…i dismiss it.
ok groupie was too strong but i was a proponent.
i bought the hype and was ridiculed for it.
when did the yankees turn into watergate?
happy hannukah youkilis wherever you are celebrating….
personally i think these rumors you hear from twitter or the papers are about 1/3 true, 1/3 untrue and 1/3 either cant be proved either way.
It’s probably some combination of things, perhaps including something Cashman said to Boras or some other agent. “Sorry, Scott, can’t talk to you about Soriano or Valverde here in Nashville, I forgot to bring my spending authority with me. It’s the darndest thing. It’s probably still on my dresser in Stamford.”
so maybe cash forgot his checkbook, don’t they accept credit cards?
nite all….
mick December 10th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
ok groupie was too strong but i was a proponent.
i bought the hype and was ridiculed for it.
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Ridiculed by who exactly?
Nite mcik take care
there is life outside of lohud aao
mick*
i swallowed my pill on montero
took my medicine
thought he would be great…
francessa is wfan’s ‘yankees guy.’ (it seems like he’s the only one)
however he doesnt seem to have any inside info on the yankees ever.
oddly, while he knocks the mets all the time, he seems to have in inside guy in their organization. (i think it’s jeff wilpon)
the texans have to re-evaluate after this game.
that haven’t come as far as they thought before tonight.
He drops things hear and there from time to time.
I was pretty excited about Montero after that game (before also). But it didn’t take long to see also that year that he had a problem chasing sliders from rhp. That continued in 2012. The league figured him out quickly. Can’t throw him fastballs away like in that video. He needs to learn how to lay off those sliders to progress.
here*
PhiltheThrill December 10th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I think this will only be a bad offseason if they trade the top prospects. I don’t at all mind being patient.
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I thought the same last year, and then we traded Montero. I pray that Cashman not only talks the talk this time, but walks the walk when it comes to patience.
Good Night.
Will ferry service to and from Yankee Stadium or at least service either way return?
‘Sucks there was no ferry service for the games last season.
How ’bout Ticketmaster sponsors the service?
Hey Duh….
Do you still think we should sign Soria as you said earlier today? (Even though he signed with Texas a week ago.) Just checking.
When Cashman talks about patience, I think he means that we’re supposed to be patient with his moves, not that he’s supposed to be patient with the players. Maybe we’re supposed to be patient with whomever he decides to be patient with as well.
There is the being patient that Cash is referring to in terms of filling holes by not overreacting and taking his time as per the “making moves” that you are referring to. However, often when Cashman uses the term he is very much also referring to not making short term deals but being patient in order to stopgap and safeguard elite prospects and give them a chance to develop. In his heart of hearts, I think Cash would like to be like Friedman, who keeps young talent or deals to add to it, and Cash admires Andy MacPhail because he has kept/developed his young talent or was patient in acquiring a young player with upside like Jones. So, for Cash I think that term patience applies both to making moves and safeguarding prospects vs. not being patient and overreacting, making short term moves.
Yankeefem – To relieve my earlier depression, I did some research on luis torrens, and found I actually had saved this excellent report from our own primo Luis:
“About Luis Torrens….He was the SS for the Venezuelan team to the Panamerican games (2010)…The ball explodes from his bat and he has a very advanced hitting approach, he has soft hands and a very strong arm…He was moved then to 3rd base and lately to the C position where he has the best chance to reach the bigs ( The Yankees asked him to change to the C position)…He is from Valencia and comes from a very structured home, which bodes well character wise…He comes from the Eladio Aleman baseball academy and has represented his home state ( Carabobo ) 7 times and Venezuela 5 times ( 3 World little league championships and 2 Panamerican games )…Experts say that he has four plus tools, except speed….Very matured for his age and is expected to go to the GLC rookie league next season ( that tells you how high the Yankees regard him as a prospect and how advanced he is )…Before being signed by the Yankees he was playing in AA in Panama ( mostly college players ), and he was able to play regularly and even excel against much older competition ( 20-22 year olds )…I am a big fan of him already…
• luis August 3rd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Two more things….The Yankees think he will move fast through the minors and he is a Yankee fan!!”
Thanks again, primo, and please stay on yjis kid.
For years, I’ve bought and sold a few tickets on both eBay and Craigslist and it has worked well for me. Never a problem if you know what you’re doing. StubHub has too many fees and too much trouble with the logistics of the tickets.
Good morning-
I’m beginning to believe Kevin Youkilis is hoping he gets another team interested in signing him so he doesn’t have to take the only remaining offer from NY. Pretty nice offer of 12M, just 250K less than he made last year, for his poorest offensive season yet.
If Youkilis is getting 12M, isn’t Ichiro going to want close to his 17M of last year?
Take the offer off the table and use it to try and sign Pierzynski to a one year contract to pair him with Romine.
“Take the offer off the table and use it to try and sign Pierzynski to a one year contract to pair him with Romine.”
This
Been on AJ P. all along.
Count me in.
Yanks need a catcher if they want to win next year
Good morning Blake-
From Joel Sherman this morning “Age an issue but Bombers may fool us again”
Just an offseason ago, the Yankees, with their eye on that $189 million luxury tax threshold in 2014, shunned Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder, Mark Buehrle and C.J. Wilson, were called cheap and downgraded as contenders. Many of their worst-case scenarios did occur, including Michael Pineda missing the whole season, Rivera and Brett Gardner most of it, and Sabathia, Pettitte and A-Rod significant chunks.
Yet they won an AL-high 95 games.
“They had a lot of stuff go wrong and still won,” Rays manager Joe Maddon told me at the Winter Meetings. “They play well together. The perception is they are just a bludgeoning group. But they have good schemes. They utilize their bullpen expertly, pinch-hit at the right moments, have good platoon systems. They have the right guys against your guys at the right time. They were morphing into a more creative offense anyway.”
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....JOI1gTNlZK
Are they morphing into a more creative offense, John Maddon? The Yankees still have Curtis Granderson who can’t get a goundball single thru your shift. They still have Teixeira who despite working last offseason on hitting the other way from the left side, has now abandoned that and even refuses to bunt on occasion against the shift.
Will adding Youkilis and Ichiro on offense make a difference in the Yankees approach in the late innings when they need to manufacture a run when down by one?
Blake-
Think the Yankees are still fully commited to winning ?
“pinch-hit at the right moments”
Really ?
What games were you watching Prunface.
Maybe late in the season and during the playoffs.
That’s not an entire seson.
For my money Joe G. is still way too matchup crazy.
Tony La Russa jr.
He only started getting creative when he was desperate.
Still way too reliant on the binder.
Good morning MTU-
I believe the Yankees now will be playing 19 times against each AL East team. Are we to believe that Jose Reyes will be gunned down by our current catching tandem-Stewart/Cervelli? Do you think that Kuroda, Pettitte and Sabathia are content with fidgety Cervelli behind the plate?
When the new owners take over I think they should do a clean sweep around Yankeeland.
YT-
Loaded question(s).
I do not think the Yankees are fully commited to winning right now.
That’s painfully obvious.
So until they are what does it matter.
“Think the Yankees are still fully commited to winning ?”
I think it’s a goal….not THE goal anymore
MTU December 11th, 2012 at 8:05 am
YT-
Loaded question(s).
I do not think the Yankees are fully commited to winning right now.
That’s painfully obvious.
So until they are what does it matter.
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I think that is true to some degree, that they aren’t “fully committed” to winning right now. But I’m not sure if I would have said the same in the prior offseason about the World Series winning Giants or the A’s, the O’s, the Cardinals of last season.
Great, the Tigers were fully committed last offseason…they shouldn’t have even made the postseason. The Angels were fully committed…they didn’t make either.
I dunno. You can strive to have the perfect team, but all you really need to do is be able to compete.
If the Yankees are becoming more like the Rays, relying on pitching, then the trade that needs to be made ASAP is trading Joe Girardi and coaching staff , plus Cashman to the Rays for Joe Maddon, Andrew Friedman, and their group of statistical advisors.
It’s still early in the postseason, but looking at all the current moves and non-moves, do you really think that the Yankees can win 93 to95 games this year to be one of 2 teams to make the playoffs out of the AL East?
Will the Jays make up some 20 plus games, like the Orioles did last year, to join the Orioles as the reps from the East in the playoffs?
Do the Yankees really have enough starters, given the ages of Kuroda and Pettitte and the health of CC and Nova, both of whom spent time on DL?
Blake-
So the simple answer is “No”.
Or Yes, but “with conditions”.
I do not think they should waste one cent on a guy like Youkilis.
Seems like a desperation move, and one that is unlikely to work out IMO.
MTU,
It is getting more difficult to be optimistic as all signs point to the old player year, let’s try to hang on one more year philosophy.
I do think they will have a large attendance drop. It is more difficult for the fans to have enthusiasm when management has no enthusiasm to win.
Very disappointing. Personally, I don’t think most have really understood what they are seeing. Rebuilding is fine, but decay is not.
There’s almost no way the Orioles repeat last season’s success. Wildly unsustainable. They’ll regress next season. The starters might be a bit better, but the bullpen can’t be nearly that good again.
The Rays just got a little worst for next season.
The Red Sox still have a huge issue with their pitching staff.
The Jays could win the division, but we’ll have to season. There are health concerns with that team.
Kev-
Whatever happens, as a fan, I appreciate seeing the commitment.
You’re right though. Nothing can guarantee results.
Dodgers might find that out this coming season.
The Yanks had better have a plan to acquire a legit RH bat…..lefties are gonna eat them alive are currently constructed.
Trade for morse who hits RHP good enough to DH full time and let him play RF vs LHP.
Sign Hamilton, Trade Granderson, either sign Ross or trade for Morse
That’s really the only plus about Youk….I don’t want him at all but if he could bounce back a bit then he’d balance the lineup out
I think they are falling just a little short of a “perfect team” with four holes in the lineup and not one upgrade in sight. In fact, each will very likely be a significant downgrade.
We’re not looking for an allstar at every position, unlike the Dodgers, but how about average or above average? How about under 35 and in clear decline?
Mac-
“Rebuilding is fine, but decay is not.”
I’d have to agree with that.
I believe the Yankees are committed…………………………………….. to staying under the 189M luxury tax, not only for the 2014 season when the LT is reset at 17.5%, but for all 3 years of the CBA when they can recoup as much as 103M[per JF]. I do believe that the Yankees will be sold within the next 3-4 years, and that they still will be a cash cow, even if they take a drop in attendance.
Just my 2 cents.
MTU December 11th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Kev-
Whatever happens, as a fan, I appreciate seeing the commitment.
You’re right though. Nothing can guarantee results.
Dodgers might find that out this coming season.
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I’ll still pick the Giants over the Dodgers in that division.
Anyway, yeah, the organization is sending mixed messages, which I find a bit insulting. They’re committed to winning right now, when we don’t have a starting RF or C or 3B, and won’t do anything in the free agent marketplace. Yeah, right.
I think we are seeing a transition team that they’re hoping to compete with. They just don’t want to say that.
Kev-
IMO you are rationalizing a little too much there.
Our pitching should be excellent but we have even more holes in our O this year than we did last.
Tremendous levels of risk are built into it.
That is not how I think the Yankees should be operating.
The Dodgers are going to suck. I’m just putting that out there.
Remember…the Marlins?
The Dodgers are spending like drunken sailors.
We are spending like tightwads.
The middle ground would be nice.
MTU,
Eh, I’m not thrilled that they’re speaking from both sides of their mouth, but I don’t mind if they’re rebuilding. The free agent marketplace is particularly weak this offseason, and I don’t think we have the good pieces to make a game changing trade. So what to do?
Build from within. We can only hope they’re learning from their past development mistakes.
Anyway, gotta go. I’ll rationalize with y’all later.
And don’t get me started on the Marlins.
Kev-
Other than the Jays, and maybe the Royals, no other team in the AL has made enough additions to claim a playoff spot. I believe all teams that made the playoffs from the AL have lost key components to their rostes as things stand now.
The big winners have come from the NL- with teams like the Nats, Braves, Phillies, Giants, Dodgers, DBacks.
Also I’m like, the one person, that hates that we didn’t resign Russ-Mart.
Blake-
Victorino got 13/39. Is Cody Ross going to get much less, or even sign for just one year?
The Yankees are a big, hairy Monster O.
By their own admission.
They have lost A-Rod, Martin, and Swisher.
That is 80-100 dingers.
Still think that O will be good enough w/o retooling or replacing the lost production ?
Too much risk built in right now.
Bu that’s how they think they can run an Airline.
Still hope they make at least one signifcant trade.
Forget the mediocrity mode. Just go with kids instead. Or make that big trade.
Sticking your finger in the dyke did not work for the Dutch and it isn’t going to work for the Yankees either IMO.
It’s pretty damn obvious that the Yankees are in transition whether they say it or not.
But that’s OK. We know it. It’s transparent enough.
Also I’m like, the one person, that hates that we didn’t resign Russ-Mart
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I wish they would have too, and find it puzzling that they didn’t given that they were willing to go 3 yrs/$21M last offseason. Not going to the 2/$18M the Pirates did this offseason sort of defies the logic of last year’s offer, no?
@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Mets last night upped offer on Dickey extension to 2/20. Team had been at 2/16 – barely above Blanton. @MartinoNYDN had first.
What are the mets doing with Dickey? If they are trying to trade him then what does it say that they are only offering the reigning CY young winner 2/20?
They should have made Russ the QO as I said all along…..at least then they would have either 1) had a catcher if he took it 2) got a draft pick if he left.
They will have to pay AJP close to that 13.3 million if they sign him too…..
Look at the 2013 payroll committments for 11 players on the squad and one player on another team.
They could easily surpass the 2012 payroll of nearly 210M.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tpQLwiiQL4kzEzLhsUqVjLQ&output=html
What are the mets doing with Dickey? If they are trying to trade him then what does it say that they are only offering the reigning CY young winner 2/20?
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Don’t know, but I think their effort to extract a premium prospect for the guy suffers a little when they themselves are only willing to pay him like a #3/#4 starter.
Blake-
What they should have done is made an offer for Ross, David Ross, who would have been a terrific backup and when they let Martin go would have been a good tandem with Romine to help him break in.
“Don’t know, but I think their effort to extract a premium prospect for the guy suffers a little when they themselves are only willing to pay him like a #3/#4 starter.”
If he will do a 2/26 deal like they say then they should just sign him IMO…..that’s a very tradeable contract
“What they should have done is made an offer for Ross, David Ross, who would have been a terrific backup and when they let Martin go would have been a good tandem with Romine to help him break in.”
That would have worked too…..what they have now isn’t good enough….so to me they either have to sign AJP ….trade for a catcher…..or basically suck behind the plate next year
I’m over here ——>
Sucking behind the plate is not an option when your team is dependant on your starting rotation of Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettitte, Hughes and Nova/Phelps. Stewart cannot anchor the catching staff-too many passed balls in limited play, doesn’t throw out runners well.
With mlb trying to make every team equal,i’m more concerned about mlb tapping into teams revenues.
31 % is what teams have to put in from their revenues,so if the yankees make 400 million in revenues,they have to put in 120 million,in addition to the lt,minus any tax breaks from their new stadium,etc…
That is a lot of cash,so going under the 189 for 2014-2016 will give them a lot more money back than people realize.
The yankees pay,or will pay well over 100 million in revenue sharing,a year,plus a lt,so this is their chance to recuperate 40-60 million a year.
“Unfortunately, the new CBA has not yet been released to the public. As a result, it’s impossible to accurately analyze the impact of the new revenue sharing rules. What we do know is if the Yankees’ implied expectation of a $40 million rebate is accurate, it will come at the expense of several large market teams, who would be forced to forfeit their cut of the pie when the new provision takes effect in 2016, according to the official summary available on MLB.com”.
A 40 million rebate,plus no lt,a year is a lot of cash to anyone.
I work in ticketing. This is a huge mistake on many many levels due to the reasons listed above plus others i cannot divulge. Do the Yankees not realize they own ticketmaster’s top competitor and this is just a move away from that competitor? Do they realize stubhub can still resell their tickets just without the nifty tm-stubhub connection that fans like? But since they opted out the ticket minimum price is not enforced. The result? Cheaper tickets on stubhub that are a bigger hassle to pick up. I could go on but unfortunately id probably get in trouble at work.
sammiejohnson December 11th, 2012 at 12:42 am
Hey Duh….
Do you still think we should sign Soria as you said earlier today? (Even though he signed with Texas a week ago.) Just checking.
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Hey prick I didn’t know Soria signed with Texas. Unlike you I don’t follow the activities of free agents or check this site enough to find out they’ve been signed. It’s called having a life – get one. Btw was it reported on here that Soria was signed? If it wasn’t then I wouldn’t have known he was signed cuz this is the only site I check for baseball news outside of Yankee news (as well as the only other one for Yankees news.) That’s also called having a life.
Btw Cashman is a @#$%ing idiot for not signing Soria as Mo is no lock whatsoever to be healthy all year or as good as he’s been at age 43.