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Andruw Jones to play in Japan

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 11, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Andruw Jones is one of the most memorable baseball players of my lifetime. He’s not the greatest center fielder of his generation, but he was in the World Series as a teenager. He was a remarkable defensive player, a powerful middle-of-the-order MVP candidate and one of the most recognizable members of those great Braves teams from a decade ago. There was a time when, without a doubt, he seemed to be playing his way toward the Hall of Fame.

How memorable is he today? I’ve covered him the past two years, and on Friday night I read on Twitter that he’d signed to play in Japan. I was surprised for a moment, then I completely forgot about it until the Associated Press confirmed the story and MLB Trade Rumors picked it up this morning.

Jones’ fall has been stunning. Just five years ago he was still a Gold Glover. Six years ago he was an all-star with 41 home runs. Seven years ago, he was No. 2 in the MVP race.

This year he was left off the playoff roster because he was no longer productive even in a limited platoon role.

Here’s the AP with the details of Jones deal in Japan, which will reportedly pay him $3.5 million. Hard to consider this a significant loss for the Yankees, who surely would have looked elsewhere for a right-handed bat next season regardless of Jones availability.

TOKYO (AP) — The Rakuten Eagles of Japan’s Pacific League say they are set to sign veteran major league outfielder Andruw Jones.

The 35-year-old Jones became a free agent after playing for the New York Yankees the last two seasons, and the Eagles said he is expected to complete a deal after undergoing a physical.

Jones played in 94 games last season for New York, batting .197 with 14 home runs.

Jones is a five-time All-Star and has 10 Gold Gloves. He hit 434 career home runs over 17 seasons in the major leagues and could provide a boost for the Eagles, whose 52 homers were the fewest in Japan last season.

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88 Responses to “Andruw Jones to play in Japan”

  1. G. Love December 11th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    Any truth to the rumor he’ll be sumo wrestling on the side?

  2. Tyler December 11th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    He really did fall quickly. Thanks for that one series earlier this year in Fenway.

  3. Tackelberry December 11th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Good riddance!!

  4. Tackelberry December 11th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Would love to see Melky Mesa have a good spring and earn the righty platoon OF spot

  5. blake December 11th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    This news almost ensures that the Yankees won’t sign Jonesy….almost

  6. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Those of you in the Jones Marching and Chowder Society need to resist the temptation to start your, “1st ballot Hall of Famer” mantra. Jones ain’t a legend.

  7. luis December 11th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    GLove,

    Nah!… He won’t be able to instill fear on his opponents with that smiling face ;) He could be an incredible tour guide though

  8. blake December 11th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    @Jim_Duquette: I was just told by a top major league exec that The #Tigers were heavily involved in discussions for Shields before #Royals landed him.

  9. LGY December 11th, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 11:54 am
    If it’s me, I trade Nova inna deal to get Revere, and pass on Ichiro. I then attempt to sign Hamilton to a 5yr deal. If I get Hamilton, then Gardner is floated. That would give the Yanks an OF of Hamilton, Granderson, and Revere.

    ——————-

    Nova for Ben Revere?

    You’re joking.

  10. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Andruw Jones – Making the case for steroid use since 2006.

  11. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    @Jim_Duquette: I was just told by a top major league exec that The #Tigers were heavily involved in discussions for Shields before #Royals landed him.

    ————–

    I wonder if they might try to land Dickey or just go the FA route to add pitching. Is Garza on anyone’s radar?

  12. RadioKev December 11th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Never mind that Ben Revere has been traded once this offseason already.

  13. RadioKev December 11th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    Zack Greinke 2010-2012: 604 IP, 3.83 ERA, 106 ERA+. RA Dickey 2010-2012: 616.1 IP, 2.95 ERA, 129 ERA+. Mets slapping Dickey in the face.

  14. Tyler December 11th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    @Jim_Duquette: I was just told by a top major league exec that The #Tigers were heavily involved in discussions for Shields before #Royals landed him.
    —————————————————————–

    Who would the Tigers have give up for him? Avisail Garcia?

  15. blake December 11th, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    Tigers always trying to get better

  16. blake December 11th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    I’m sure the Rays asked Detroit for Castellanos plus more…..

  17. Tyler December 11th, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Forgot about Castellanos.

  18. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Olney suggests A.J. Pierzynski could be a fit for the Rays, but notes that rival evaluators don’t particularly like his defense. One agent predicts the White Sox will end up re-signing the free agent catcher.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#V4HBDHJMJtSdWFIm.99

  19. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    One GM said Wil Myers is “not without his flaws,” Olney reports. The prospect struck out 140 times this past season and, as the GM notes, “holes are exposed at the next level.”
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#V4HBDHJMJtSdWFIm.99

    ****

    But lohud told me otherwise and the Royals were fleeced – I should know better with all the hedging that goes on from the lohud – - – -

  20. blake December 11th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Gardner CF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2B
    Tex 1B
    Hamilton LF
    Morse DH
    AJP C
    Adams/Nakajima 3B
    Ichiro RF

    Nova for morse
    Granderson for Delgado

  21. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    The point pertaining to Revere is the Yanks coulda had him. His age, yrs of cost control, and performance thus far, woulda fit nicely in the Yankee OF.

  22. Patrick December 11th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Revere is not very good, Gardner is better. Why trade prospects for a worse version of a player you already have? It’s stupid

  23. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Age, ceiling, and salary. Pretty simple.

  24. Patrick December 11th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Age, ceiling, and salary. Pretty simple.

    lol ..

  25. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    I wasn’t opposed to making a bit of a push for Revere just because he’s young and cheap and controlled for long enough to bridge to some of the young guys.. the biggest factor for me was that he was cheaper than Gordon, Headley, Upton, etc. But he’s off the table, of course. We’re going to resign Ichiro and wing it with just Garder as our RF, CF, and LF in 2014! Speed kills!!

  26. LGY December 11th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Why would you trade Nova for Revere and then trade Gardner.

    You’re willing to lose Nova and downgrade from Gardner to Revere just for the prospects Gardner would bring back?

  27. Tackelberry December 11th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Wonder how long Yanks will wait for Youk to make up his mind before they pull the offer off the table

  28. blake December 11th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Tackelberry says:
    December 11, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    Wonder how long Yanks will wait for Youk to make up his mind before they pull the offer off the table

    Hopefully like 1 more second

  29. blake December 11th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    I have a feeling Cashman is cooking up a big trade for a hurt pitcher as we speak

  30. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    You regard Revere as a “downgrade” vs Gardner. I do Not short or Certainly long-term. I like Gardner, but his age and reliance on speed, is Currently a caution flag, soon to go red. Same would go for Bourne.

  31. Tyler December 11th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    I’ll accept a 1 year contract for 2014.

  32. LGY December 11th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Gardner is a better hitter and fielder.

    How is that not a downgrade?

  33. blake December 11th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    If the Yankees will offer 12 million to old injury prone .235 hitting Youkalis…..then why wouldn’t they offer a 13.3 million dollar QO for Russ Martin?

    You don’t even get a draft pick if ugly turns you down ……

  34. Patrick December 11th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    Gardner is a better hitter and fielder.

    How is that not a downgrade?

    Revere is most certainly a downgrade from Gardner. Anyone who thinks differently is delusional

  35. hardwired7 December 11th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    happy trails Andruw J :) nes

  36. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    In my scenario I would have had Revere and Gardner.. but that was just a pipe dream anyway. I do no speak for Donny lol.

    Man.. a guy like Revere is a pipe dream lol, what world is this?!

  37. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    If the Yankees will offer 12 million to old injury prone .235 hitting Youkalis…..then why wouldn’t they offer a 13.3 million dollar QO for Russ Martin?

    You don’t even get a draft pick if ugly turns you down ……

    ————–

    It sounds like the FO never thought they’d resign him.. it’s curious. I hate to be repetitive ( :lol: ) but it seems like there might not have been a solid plan coming into this off season…

  38. blake December 11th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Unless the Yanks are angling for a catcher trade or are planning on signing AJP….. Then Im not sure exactly what the plan behind the plate is…..

    Maybe Girardi had convinced the FO that Stewie is a starter?

  39. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Over the weekend, saw the trailer for that new “Oz” flick. Looks pretty good, but I believe they shoulda gotten Johhny Depp to play The Wizard. Also, coulda probably used Brett Gardner as The President of The Lollipop Guild.

  40. PhiltheThrill December 11th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    blake,

    I have an ominous feeling about trades, too. But I’m ignoring it and getting excited about the Giants and Knicks, instead:)

  41. G. Love December 11th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Have to believe Youkilis is trying to get the Dodgers to make an offer. It makes zero sense to take this long when you have a 1 year offer for those kind of dollars. I don’t think he wants to play here but may end up doing so out of lack of options.

  42. blake December 11th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    “PhiltheThrill says:
    December 11, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    blake,

    I have an ominous feeling about trades, too. But I’m ignoring it and getting excited about the Giants and Knicks, instead:)”

    I don’t really like the NBA or NFL and my Tarheels are rebuilding so Im left with nothing but thoughts about how Cashman is probably working on an all the prospects for Matt Garza trade……

  43. blake December 11th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    Pull the offer to Youk and get a catcher

  44. blake December 11th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    @DKnobler: Tigers wanted Shields. Rays like Avisail Garcia, but Tigers couldn’t match Royals’ offer. http://t.co/sH7txMhS

  45. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    G. Love December 11th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Have to believe Youkilis is trying to get the Dodgers to make an offer. It makes zero sense to take this long when you have a 1 year offer for those kind of dollars. I don’t think he wants to play here but may end up doing so out of lack of options.

    ———–

    Saddest day ever.

    They should pull or lower the offer!!! There’s no market for the guy!

    This is why the ‘smarter Yankee business plan’ is so dumb to promote on here. They haven’t been smarter about ANYTHING.

  46. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Tried to watch an NLF game this weekend. Cured my insomnia.

  47. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    NFL

  48. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    We’re about to overpay for a player with a very limited market.. this is like textbook Yankees right here, but in this case we’re the same old Yanks with a streak of desperation!!

  49. PhiltheThrill December 11th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    blake,

    MEDITATE:)

  50. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger. /Kanye’d

  51. PhiltheThrill December 11th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    I remember when the Yanks used to pull offers on guys trying to shop them. And when they’d make to offers at the same time and award the first guy to take it.

  52. randy l. December 11th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    ” The Orioles were masters at solving the ever-changing jigsaw puzzle that was their starting rotation in 2012, and they were able to do that largely because of the work put in by director of pitching Rick Peterson. He oversaw the organization’s arms from top to bottom, and he turned out to be quite the puppet master.

    Peterson will be back in 2013.”

    http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....ven-better

    what was the big turnaround of the orioles caused by?

    i think it was the dynamic odd pairing of dan duquette, buck showalter, and rick peterson.

    in other words it started with a management shake up and some really strong personalities who you’d think would really clash. however the opposite happened.

    this is very unlike the yankees who do not hire anyone who is not in lockstep with brian cashman who is in lock step with hal’s plan to make sure the steinbrenner weath doesn’t trickle down to anyone .

    if the yankees are going to move into a new era don’t they have to change up or add to management?

    the yankees have no equivalent director of pitching position as the one peterson fills with the orioles, but their pitching is pretty good, so why not add a director of hitting ?

    preferably someone who likes to see the ball put in play more frequently than was the case last year with the yankees.

  53. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Like I said, use the $$$ earmarked for Ichiro and Youk towards Hamilton’s 2013 salary. Use Nunez at 3B, and PLAYBALL.

  54. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    I look for the Orioles to go Backward. Like Billy Martin, Showalter wears thin quickly. His sell-by date is about to Expire.

  55. blake December 11th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    Randy ,

    What do you think of Gil Patterson?

  56. Doreen December 11th, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    randy l -

    As much as I am not anti-Cashman, I personally do not think a new look would be a bad idea. Cashman and others have been here for a very long time. There’s pluses to that, but also some minuses.

    Cashman looks a little burned out, even to me.

    I wouldn’t even necessarily mind new ownership, if that is what is to be.

    I think winning for as long as the Yankees have, the need to change things up isn’t as evident. “If it isn’t broken don’t fix it.” And then one has to figure out what the definition of “broken” is. The Orioles, a once proud organization really were in a position to try stuff.

    I thought the Yankees were going to hire an assistant hitting coach? That could have been a step in a different direction, a good direction, if it was approached from the angle of one guy doing the physical hands on, and the other being more focused on strategies, scouting, etc.

    It is strange, though, that at the end of the year, the Yankees always have a ton of runs scored. It’s only on a game by game basis that you see the flaws. The trees, as it were, to the forest of the completed season.

  57. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    It is a bit ironic.. I think Girardi is a company guy and to some degree I think the same of Cash.. but lately it has seemed like Cash and the FO are out of step on some level. I don’t think everyone is on the same page….. and I hate that I need to put some faith in Levine.

    How is it that RANDY LEVINE is getting on the horn trying to convince Miami to part with Giancarlo lol?? That was a crazy report.

  58. blake December 11th, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    “Cashman looks a little burned out, even to me.”

    I’ve said this before but I think before it’s over Cashman will be spotted dragging one of the WS trophies behind his car in the YS parking lot…..

  59. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Like I said, Cashman has been “F Trooped”.

  60. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    Doreen – Good points. I don’t know if the consistency is the problem or if it’s just the plan itself.

    Like I said in my previous post I think it’s a matter of having and executing a plan.. and I think there is a good chance the FO disagrees on what the plan should be as much as we do. There are a few ways to handle reducing the payroll and operating smarter. I think Hal is inexperienced with running a baseball team and probably has a lot of voices in his ear… could contribute to some indecision and poor planning/choices.

  61. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    That being said, I think what George was good at was getting as many opinions as possible. I think, generally speaking, there are no ideas that should be ignored, especially when you’re trying to change the fundamentals of how you operate and do business.

  62. blake December 11th, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    I think they should offer Andrew Friedman double his money to come be GM and move Cashman up to president of Baseball ops…… They want to operate on a budget….get the guy who is the best at getting the most out of a payroll number

  63. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    @AndrewMarchand
    Who replaces Andruw? espn.go.com/blog/new-york/…

    Is Marchand effing serious??! LOL.

  64. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    WHO will replace the guy that was the least useful last year?! WHO?

    I should have just been a sports writer.

  65. blake December 11th, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    http://m.bleacherreport.com/ar.....h-hamilton

    Yankees Holiday Wish List: Santa, Please Bring Us Josh Hamilton
    By Alan Horvath on December 10, 2012

  66. randy l. December 11th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    “What do you think of Gil Patterson?”

    i like what i hear about him.

  67. Patrick December 11th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    WHO will replace the guy that was the least useful last year?! WHO?

    I should have just been a sports writer.

    Seriously, he didn’t even make the playoff roster and now the Yanks have to replace him?

  68. Doreen December 11th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Well, we know there have been very public disagreements – Soriano, ARod – and so probably there are some others as well.

    George put this team together though, didn’t he?

    The budget is coming from Hal, that much we can figure out. But out to work it, I guess that’s where all the conflict probably arises.

    There was a plan, a decent plan. And little by little, things went wrong – well, mostly, players got injured, or high risk guys didn’t pan out. You can see how guys like Levine and Trost would be pointing out that Cashman’s plan to grow the farm system wasn’t flawless, but we don’t know how committed management ever really was to making sure if they were going in that direction that everything was in place to do so.

    Problem is, we can debate back and forth till the cows come home but we will never know (unless any of hte parties ever writes a book) exactly how things transpired over the years. Steinbrenner (George) was always lukewarm on the minor league system at best, and I think Levine and his cohorts are likely on that side of the table, if I had to guess. That will always leave Cashman with a fight on his hands, and since he’s “only” the GM, probably not as major a voice as Levine. But I could be blowing smoke here. Which is why I don’t like to do this – get all theoretical and behind the scenes. We just can’t know.

    I can surmise though, that if the front office people liked a particular player and Cashman recommended to trade that particular player for a different type of commodity, and that trade didn’t work out the way it should have, then, ownership is going to be a little gun shy going forward, maybe. I think there is a faction (not Cashman or Girardi I don’t think) that prefers veterans to prospects because of name recognition, money and, maybe more importantly, the idea that there is likely less risk (which, yeah, maybe, but maybe not). Hal is not a risk-taker. So, if a team takes the personality of its owner, there ya go.

    But we really just don’t know enough about anything, nor really should be expect to.

  69. Doreen December 11th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Oh, and by team, I mean George put together the management team, administrative, not on the field.

  70. blake December 11th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Patterson has a history of pushing pitchers….he did a great job with the As so Im hoping he will help them

  71. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    im with doreen. i’ve been very supportive of the group running the yankees but as time goes by they need some change, some newer faces, some new ideas. I

    ‘m not looking to change faces for change’s sake, and it always depends on who’s available to move into that group, but i do agree that you just can’t keep the same group in there year after year after year.

  72. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    It seems there was a gap between George’s rein and his sons.. obviously George wasn’t in any fit state to be running the team for a few years there, they hid him for a while.

    Wasn’t Jennifer’s husband the guy that was supposed to take the lead? I thought he had a big hand in things until the divorce. I wish Jennifer would just step in lol. If this team had a woman’s touch there’s no way in hell we’d be after Youk’s ugly mug (stereotypes are fun!).

    The weird thing is at one point it looked like Cash had a lot of control, wanted to focus on the farm and development, but they never seemed to pump a lot of resources into it. I think they had the thought process that plan B could always be spending if your prospects didn’t pan out.

    And now we have the perfect storm.

  73. randy l. December 11th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    doreen-

    there’s no reason cashman can’t stay in the organization. he could be an oppositional experienced voice to some fresh voices added to the mix.

    dan duquette is really disliked by a lot of inside people in baseball. it was why it took him so long to get a job after leaving the red sox. showaleter is considered a control freak. rick peterson is considered a brainiac know it all.

    so how did they all come together and create a winning oriole team ?

    the answer is the right kind of oppositional thinking is healthy for a business.

    george built the yankees with setting up the new york and tampa offices to butt heads.

    let the best idea win out. throw out a few f bombs across a brainstorming table of people that all think they are right.

    yeah someone needs to make the final decision, but an organization needs fresh ideas as the times change and you don’t get that with the same old same old.

  74. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    in george’s days the power shifted by the season or the week (or the weekend series) and it was a real mess. now they’ve gone too far the other way imo where even when there is a difference of opinion, it’s covered up and they all pretty much pretend to be on the same page.

    i

  75. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Asdrubal Cabrera, arguably the top shortstop available, has drawn trade interest as a third baseman. Before the Winter Meetings began, the Indians and Phillies discussed a trade that would have sent the shortstop to Philadelphia for Vance Worley and prospects, Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.

    The Phillies, who have since sent Worley to the Twins and acquired Michael Young from the Rangers, would have used Cabrera at third base, according to Hoynes. While the Phillies offered Worley and two prospects, the Indians wanted more.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#y2eUSZpa6iBoqUhu.99

  76. Bo knows December 11th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Just thought I’d bring up a point. Any decently run org. should be able to come up with 86 wins or 500. From there getting to those extra 5 to 10 wins gets progressively harder, more complicated and more expensive. Projection runs headlong into reality, such as injuries, down years, etc. That’s where the crux of the matter lies.

  77. blake December 11th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    Trade for Asdrubal

  78. Doreen December 11th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    randy l -

    Cashman will always have value as a historical voice. He’s been there a long time and from George on, plus he does have good relationships (from what we read) with other organizations’ GMs which is always a good thing.

    You’d think he’d be ready to move on or up at some point, though there’s the argument that being the GM for the Yankees is always a challenge. But he’s not the Pope or a Supreme Court Justice.

    I like that the controversy of old is no longer de rigueur. But Y’s Guy, I think you’ve hit on something. They are all so averse to the way George had those public fits and feuds that they “PRETEND” to be on the same page. Vanilla press releases. No controversy whatsoever. The players they target have to buy into that as well – The Derek Jeter School of Media Relations. I’m actually in favor of players and managers not stirring the pot in public, though. But there’s not one dissenting voice among them! How often does that happen???? LOL

    You have to wonder how many players were let go because it was antithetical to their personalities to, well, suppress their perhaps not- so-vanilla personalities?

  79. Doreen December 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Bo Knows -

    That’s true. The season for a good team hinges on how you weather the storms, and getting those 5 to 10 wins (closer to 10!) It’s one of the reasons I’ve like the way Cashman has targeted his bench players.

    But you can’t have a team full of bench players….

  80. DONNYBROOK December 11th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    George tried numerous times to bring “the boys” into the operation and they declined Every time. Once George started his mental decline, Hal and Hank had No choice but to get involved. Hal and Hank are currently doing something they Never wanted to do. Their half-hearted effort reflects this, as does the Yankee Organization in general. To me, there currently is 1 plan and 1 plan Only. CUT the team payroll and get to $189 Mill by 2014. This is Hal’s version of, “Sherman’s march to the sea”. Whatever it takes, however ya gotta do it, do it.

  81. austinmac December 11th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Doreen,

    I read a week or so ago the Yankees decided against an assistant hitting coach. they are becoming popular. No explanation was given, but one can imagine Long doesn’t want anyone over his shoulder who could replace him if they don’t hit. Heck, I wouldn’t.

  82. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Quite a few National League teams asked about Tigers right-hander Rick Porcello at last week’s Winter Meetings, Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports. However, the Tigers need Porcello at this point, so he’s not available.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#O5LtTFO7TqwBold9.99

    *****

    Brings back memories of the 2007 draft – - – -

  83. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Let Alex earn his money and act as assistant hitting coach until he can return…

    I mean, I dunno how much a guy can coach other guys when he can’t rotate his hips but theoretically he can spot mechanical issues and give advice and whatnot.

  84. austinmac December 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Asrubal would be great. Young would have been far better than Youkilis, who clearly doesn’t want to come here.

    As somone noted earlier, the Yankees never used to let their offers be shopped. Now, they give one to Youkilis and, without question, he is using it as a negotiating tool with others.

    Talk about appearing weak and desparate.

    What happened to the Cashman who said the Yankees should still be feared as the stalking horse? Hal, told him to be quiet and go to his room, I think.

  85. Doreen December 11th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Hal is not a baseball fan. Hank may be, but he’s not the businessman Hal is, or so it appears to me anyway.

    I have no problem with trying to get the way the Yankees do business to a more responsible reasonable base. Get the LT in line, get some money back, whatever, and throw the idea out there that this is a different Yankees – no more ridiculous contracts for mediocre players; no more irresponsible contracts even for star players. More money per year, fine; but no more 10 year, 8 year contracts. I’m on board with that, even if it hurts in the short term.

    The problem is, as always, we’re just guessing. I am hoping this is part of a long term plan to make the Yankees ultimately better; others think they’re getting ready to sell (I’m not sure); still others see no reason for the Yankees to do this at all. For all the controversy the Yankees have worked so hard to avoid over the last several years, last off-season and this one sure seem to be trying to make up for it.

  86. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    :arrow:

  87. Doreen December 11th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Shame, that’s just duplicating what Long already does. If they get an assistant, he has to do something different, bring something else to the table.

    Austimac, you have a point, but maybe they just couldn’t come to the nuts and bolts of what the guy would actually do? Who knows?? Or maybe they found out how much the salary would be!

  88. Duh Innings II December 11th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Andruw Jones – Making the case for steroid use since 2006.

    ————-

    How so? Yeah, a ten-time Gold Glove outfielder needs steroids, ok, psssshhhhhh.

    Jones has never been linked to PEDs.

    Why not say “since 2005″ since 2005 was his best season (NLMVP runnerup)?

    He’s been a piece of crap since age 31 and four out of the last five seasons with 2011 being his best all-around season slashline-wise. If he has been taking PEDs since 2006, they sure haven’t helped him (great 2006, very good 2007, lousy 2008-12.)

    The shame with him is if he had taken his game more seriously after 2007 where he smacked just 5 more homeruns a year 2008-12, he’d have 459 career homeruns thus a decent shot at 500 homeruns and the Hall Of Fame provided he play ’til 40 even as a part-time player.


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