Rivera helping out with Yankees food drive
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 11, 2012 
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Tomorrow the Yankees are holding their annual holiday food drive, and today the team announced that Mariano Rivera is participating. Here are the details, from the Yankees, for those who can get over to the stadium tomorrow.
The New York Yankees will continue another great tradition this holiday season with the 19th annual Yankees Holiday Food Drive, presented by White Rose Foods. On Wednesday, December 12, between 10:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. at Gate 2 at Yankee Stadium (corner of 164th Street and Jerome Ave.), any fan bringing at least 30 pounds of non-perishable food will receive a voucher good for two (2) complimentary Grandstand or Bleachers tickets or two (2) half-price tickets in select general seating areas* to one of 19 designated games during the 2013 regular season.**
RHP Mariano Rivera will be on hand to assist in collecting food items from 11:30 a.m. – noon.
The Yankees, in conjunction with Bronx clergy, will distribute the food throughout the Bronx to those in need. To help kick off the Yankees Food Drive, White Rose Foods will donate approximately 90,000 lbs of food.
Fans driving to the Stadium may pull up to Gate 2 to drop off their donation. Rice and bottled water will not be accepted.
WHAT: 19th ANNUAL YANKEES HOLIDAY FOOD DRIVE, PRESENTED BY WHITE ROSE FOODS
DATE: WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2012
TIME: 10:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m.
(MARIANO RIVERA: 11:30 – noon)
PLACE: YANKEE STADIUM – GATE 2
Associated Press photo
d howard to the nets? where have i head that before?
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Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Nick in SF December 11th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
“They’ve been talking about ‘not being happy with’ Upton for a while now…”
I think we talk about it more than they ever did. But I agree that they should trade Upton; they can’t compete with the Dodger$™ anyway. Similarly, the Giants should let us have Buster Posey.
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Via Ken Rosenthal: In other news, Jerry Crasnick says the D’Backs will also listen to offers for 21-year-old right-hander Trevor Bauer, who has fallen out of favor with some in the organization. Same thing as Upton here, if he’s truly available, the Yankees need to at least make the call.
Arizona Diamondbacks have to end song and dance with Justin Upton: http://arizonasports.com/166/1…..l-Colliano
Although he is generally regarded as a fine corner outfielder, advanced statistics suggest that his fielding has been less than stellar this year. He has been publicly called out by the team’s owner, and benched for a few games in a row at one point in an effort to “clear his head.” – From NESN
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I agree on Posey, however..
The NESN article dates back to July..
http://nesn.com/2012/07/justin.....t-sighted/
Can’t put more than one link in a post.. dumb censor..
The AZ Sports article link.. which I now realize doesn’t work.. dumb cut and paste..
http://arizonasports.com/166/1.....l-Colliano
Good night everyone.
Hoping for a little more excitement from the Yankees other than Ichiro signed as RF’er this week.
Joba has been very quiet with his Youk tweets.
Youk cannot have #20.
Fans might boo…
Shame, saying that Y > X does not imply that X = 0.
Posey is the single most important player for a team in MLB.
Despite the Dodgers profligate spending, they are not better than the Giants. At least until they prove otherwise … They still must overcome the stank of Gonzo, Beckett and Craword.
Agreed, tucker, the SF-LA games are going to have even more juice than usual this season. Looking forward to it.
mick says:
December 11, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Joba has been very quiet with his Youk tweets.
Xxxx
Too busy beaning Youk on Playstation tonight …
And, nick, it goes without saying I was way off on the Yanks interest in Youk. He seemed a natural fit for Cleveland … Alas, the midges will have a new sticky sweaty target …
@BNightengale: The #Dbacks considered Bauer their third-best pitching prospect behind Skaggs and Corbin
Wow they really hate Bauer
I didn’t think the Yanks would be in on Youk either, but I guess it all went topsy-turvy when the latest Arod surgery was announced. I think we’re all going to need Youk filters for our game-watching devices.
The Yankees are starting to remind me of the movie “Space Cowboys”.
Bunch of aging, supposedly over-the-hill guys, with something to prove.
And now I’m really going to bed.
“Youk gotta be kidding!”
that’s my submission for a possible NYPost/DailyNews headline
Watch him get uniform # 12. I’ve had this Alfonso Soriano jersey for 10 years and that numbers been passed around like a hash pipe at a frat party.
I see Youk in pinstripes as another sign the Mayans may have been onto something …
giradi can’t wait to call him “youk-y.”
Its a sad day in Yankee history.
Cashman is working on a trade to bring Bronson Arroyo from Cincy, ‘Tek’ and Schilling out of retirement.
Cashman’s pathetic.
It would be nice if KY turns out to be more than just jelly and plays above his chrome dome.
I’m gone ( you all knew that).
Do you think he gets a press conference?
Ironically, Moneyball is on television.
Yoouuuuuk, LOL, funny.
LOL, Youk is all “fired up”?
this is nice show.
Something between a press conference and Swisher’s conference call.
Maybe a skype conference?
youk does give you a professional at-bat and that helps the lineup.
some speculation in light of the 3-team deal…
http://prospectinsider.com/vie.....elopments/
I am hopeful Youkilis can help. I’m sure they will carefully look at low back issues. He’s soon to be a Yankee. What is irritating on the enemy can be endearingly competitive on your team.
Autinmac,
Lets be fair. Youky is a 33 and a career BA 283 and 383 OBP. Can we chalk up last years result of him not being 100 percent healthy?
Positives is that he can play both 1B and 3B. He will be extremely valuable. IMO
My real question is who has the higher BA next year. Youky or Tex.
I hope our Youktimism is rewarded with nice bounceback performance.
Lets be fair. Youky is a 33 and a career BA 283 and 383 OBP. Can we chalk up last years result of him not being 100 percent healthy?
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1. What are the odds he is 100 percent healthy this year?
2. He didn’t hit right handers the year before either, and the cracks in that came started 2 years ago
Its more likely he continues to be bad against righties than rebounds. Yankees have to hope for atleast a partial bounce back to production like 3 years ago
Not enough bandwidth to transmit that gargantuan head of his.
“Fack Youk” just came out of retirement.
Ok, how about a flash mob?
“Can we chalk up last years result of him not being 100 percent healthy?”
Maybe but are you willing to bet 12 mil on that?
Thats what I don’t get. Ok take a chance, gritty, gutty. gamer and all that stuff. But why 12 mil for a team with a limited budget and plenty of holes to fill? Seems like an overpay to me.
Also would have preferred they take care of catcher with that money.
Jerkface,
So what are projections for him this year? Do you not envision youky grinding out AB’s at all this year?
So what are projections for him this year? Do you not envision youky grinding out AB’s at all this year?
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Anyone can grind out ABs, but I’m more concerned with the end result. Grinding out ABs & not getting on base doesnt really help. His AVG & OPS have declined against righties each of the last 3 years. Avg from 300 to 275 to 235 to 220.
I don’t know if we can reasonably expect rebound in that area…
I’m sure he will provide very good production against lefties.
Trevor Bauer is a strange one when it comes to his training program… pretty sure he goes to that Texas Baseball Ranch. Dude plays long toss from like 400 feet as a warm-up before a start and says he throws somewhere around 19 different pitches. He’s kinda crazy I can see why an organization would get frustrated and have conflicting viewpoints on things with him despite his talent.
My real question is who has the higher BA next year. Youky or Tex.
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Tex’s average has been trending downward so I really hope it’s Youk. I’m fine with .250-260 from Tex at this point as long as the production is high. I hope that Youk can get back up to .280 but I also see him getting hurt all the time playing 3rd.
Youktimism vs. Skeptiyouksm.
Maybe that needs some more work.
binghampton beat michigan?!?
tony kornheiser will be happy (when he wakes up tomorrow!)
Youkilis has shut down the blog….lol GN everyone!!
When will Youk and Joba be doing lunch ?
Duh Innings II December 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
So now that I just found out from a smartass posting as “sammiejohnson” that Soria signed a two-year $8M contract with Texas (because I have a life unlike him and some of you who post on here), I must say Cashman has done an AWFUL job this offseason outside of making moves any Yankees fan with zero general managing experience would’ve done (re-sign Kuroda, Pettitte, and Rivera.)
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I am sorry “Duh”. So pointing out to you that someone you advocate the Yankees’ sign, has already signed with a different team (a week ago) is wrong of me? If so, my apologies, sir.
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Duh Innings II December 11th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
BTW I did a Google search for news of Soria signing with Texas on Yankees Lohud and it wasn’t on here or if it was it wasn’t a headline which would come up in a search, just a brief mention with a link.
So considering this is the only site I check for non-Yankee news, it’s reasonable that I didn’t know Cashman let Texas get who could’ve been one of three insurance closer options for the 2013 Yankees (the other two being Robertson and Aardsma) and the Yanks 2014 closer for$6M less / 40% of the base cost of 2013 Rivera, good job Cashman – idiot. And Soria said he would come here to pitch with Mo i.e. forfeit closing.
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Of course you couldn’t be expected to know something like week old news “Duh”. Why, it certainly is reasonable that you “have a life” and the rest of us do not. You are to be applauded, sir, for your efforts to keep current on non-Yankees news by coming to a Yankees blog. On the contrary sir, you should be congratulated for the time you take to attempt to educate us people who do not have a life with your lengthy posts on Yankees’ roster construction. (The other 6 or 8 Yankees’ blogs that I also see your long winded posts on should also be thankful. How does that fit in with that “real life” of yours?) But I fear that the time you spend on these lengthy posts may somehow take time away from that life that you have. I, for one, would hate for you to waste that life that you have that most others here do not.
One more point, if I may, sir. Have you ever seriously considered all the advantages of becoming the General Manager of the New York Yankees’? You would be perfect for this job. I know it only pays a couple million a year, probably “chump change” to your day job, but the team we all love needs you! To quote you (many times over) “Cashman – idiot”. We are in a crisis situation. Your team is calling out to you, sir. It is your moment. You could fix this. Then, we who have no live’s, would be forever in your debt. If ALL Lohud posters signed a petition “demanding” “Duh” were GM, why than Hal would absolutely have no choice in the matter. He would HAVE to fire “Cashman – idiot”.
(I seem to be getting a bit wordy meself. If I get incoherent someone flap a napkin at me.) (Burp)
In closing sir, let me just state what an honor it has been for me to type this.
joel.sherman:
“Look, I think the Yankees should have re-signed Russell Martin and used their monetary might to win for versatile lefty killer Jeff Keppinger. But if they end up with Suzuki, Kevin Youkilis, Scott Hairston and Raul Ibanez, then they should still have lefty-righty diversity, probably a deep offense and no further clogging of their long-term financial arteries. It is one thing to scream the Yankees should spend, but if in this market they are not anteing up for Josh Hamilton — who may not want to leave Texas anyway — then who should they be spending on?”
Who they should have spent on seems obvious, Joel.
OF
age 28
SH
2012 slash line:
.346/.390/.516/.906
vs. LHP:
.395/.444/.617/.1.111
vs. RHP:
.327/.368/.458/.826
Can you guess who this is?? Hint: he’ll be playing in the AL East in 2013 and 2014 (for chump change).
Youk, he is a dude you love hate if he is on the other team. That’s how i felt about him in bosox uniform. The goods are he still hit LHP, gets base and demonstrate some power LY in fenway and Comisky which has similar dimension to YS except LF.
The bad, age, injury and his questionable ability to play a good 3b.
I think Youk has the personality to play in NY which really isn’t all that different than Boston. I for one is looking forward to see him in 13. were they better alternative to spent that 12 mil if that is all we are allow to spent on a big ticket in 13, sure. but that remain to be seen. If I can get AJP on a similar deal i will take him too.
*spend. heh Jap I see you still up… I take AJP and Hairston at this point and call it a day. I prefer Ross but that doesn’t seem a realistic possibility at this point.
crossing my finger on Youk will be healthy and recapture his ability to hit RHP…
last thought… the question you have to ask yourself is this- who is out there on FA that is better than Youk and are willing to take one year deal ? Yes, even when one consider 12 mil might be a slight overpaid.
good night , Lohud.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear God NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Pukeface in pinstripes. Oh my God in heaven, I feel like I just went to hell.
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I didn’t read about this until just now. I actually had come on to tell a kind of funny (sad?) story and now I wish I could rewrite the ending! I was at the mall tonight and when I went to get out of my car, I saw a baggie on the ground filled with something that appeared to have leaves and stems in it, along with the main “substance”. I picked it up but then tossed it back on the ground. I wasn’t in the mall long and when I went back to the parking lot, the baggie was still there. So I got it and put it in my car and prepared to do my civic duty. I drove to the Providence Police station to turn it in, all the while stealing furtive glances at it, wondering what would happen if I got stopped and the police saw the baggie sitting on the seat of my car. Would I be arrested? Would they believe my story? Anyway, I made it to the police station and turned it in, only to be told that it was pipe tobacco.
But now I wish it was pot and that I had taken it home and smoked the whole bag. Or made brownies with it and ate the entire batch.
No dear God, not Pukeface!!!!! Oh no no no no no no. This can’t be happening.
No.
No.
AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Trish, you will learn to love Youk
It will a ‘natural’ high when you do 
Trisha, pass the bong.
Hilarious story, btw.
Uh, if the stuff in the bag was what you thought it was and there was enough of it, yeah if you were pulled over and a cop saw it, you would have been arrested for possession with intent to distribute (automatic over certain amount), would have done some time, and I would have been disbarred. Not smart. Next time just leave it on the ground and call the cops to the location if you feel you must do something.
I would *assume* have been disbarred…
The Yanks should now sign Jack Hannahan to play 3B so Youkilis could DH and back up at 1B and 3B, starting nine almost set once Ichiro re-signs for RF, “almost” because we have to see who wins the C job, Romine, Stewart, Cervelli, or Whiteside (if Whiteside is still on the team.)
@#$% you sammiejohnson (I didn’t even read your nonsense or trust me, I’d reply to it.)
Trisha-
Your feelings of revulsion to the KY signing are understandable.
Same here.
Just have to get over it.
Talk about going from the sublime to the ridiculous.
Yankees are starting to remind me of that movie “Space Cowboys”.
Good morning -
My reaction to the Youkilis signing is resignation. If I could get used to Randy Johnson, I can stand Youkilis for one year. But it should count as penance to have to watch his at-bats on a daily basis.
And all you can do once the deal is done, is hope it turns out for the best. And be glad it’s only for one year – and darn, AROD!
The Yankees could have gotten 2 years of Melky Cabrera prime age for only a little more than they paid for one year of broken down Youk
Are the Yankees trying for the Guiness book for team with the oldest avg. age ?
Cano and GGBG seem like newborns on this squad.
Also, it may have taken a week to decide because, remember, he’ll have to shave that godawful beard of his. My only concern is he could look WORSE without it!
Doreen-
IMO they could have gone with a Nix/Adams platoon and just have saved the money or spent it elsewhere.
They were desperate to replace the missing Hr. production from losing
Swish, A-Rod, and Martin is my guess.
I hope KY does well because he is in PS but it seems like an ill-advised move to me.
Go ahead. prove me wrong Kevin.
If you don’t produce you will hear booing the likes of which you have never heard.
MTU -
I think I have to agree, but they obviously weren’t going to give Adams that opportunity; don’t think he’s ready. I don’t know what makes a person “ready.” He was a sought after player by the Mariners when they were discussing the Cliff Lee trade. He lost time because of injury, I know, but seems like they could have at least had an open mind and let him compete in spring training.
Then again, if you can get a proven veteran, I guess you have to try. And Youkilis was not gonna be a bargain “get.” I guess the reasoning is they aren’t going to be able to get an catcher so they went with getting an “offensive” third baseman. Pun intended.
Perhaps Adams will still be able to compete for a backup job. At some point, don’t they have to infuse “some” youth into the mix? They seem willing to do it in the bullpen/rotation. Not so much with position players. I really hope Romine turns heads in spring. I’d like to see him make the team and then win the position over the course of the year.
Or Maybe Adams is in most the trade discussions Cashman has been having? There’s always that possibility – that he will likely be off the table for the Yankees. (This is the part of things that I always get to – what we DON’T know.)
**Duh! Should have read (adn I thought I typed) “they aren’t going to be able to get an offensive catcher, so they went with getting an “offensive” third baseman. Ruined my own pun.
Doreen-
Nix could have have handled most of the load with Adams in a supporting role.
What about spending more money on a better RH hitting OF’er to comliment Suzuki ?
The age-related risk on the this team is astonishing.
I was really hoping for a Chavez/Kepp platoon at 3rd.
Lost ‘em both.
MTU -
Apparently they don’t see Nix as a guy to play most everyday, and likely need him to be the #1 backup.
I thought they were going to concentrate on RF. I know ARod’s surgery threw them a curve, but what is left for the OF? Or who. There has to be a trade coming. Cause Hamilton is not.
I guess they can use Dickerson to play OF, but that’s not enough.
MTU -
I don’t fault the Yankees for losing out on Chavez – he was offered the opportunity to play near home in a warmer climate. He’d have been daft not to take that. I would not be surprised if he didn’t call the Yankees to tell them this before they extended an offer.
Plus, I think they got everything out of Chavez last year that he’s going to be able to give.
Which is not to say I’m not disappointed. I like Chavez. Gonna miss his face, too.
From Chavez to Youk!!! 
Doreen-
Apparently. But I hasve to disagree.
Nix isn’t great but he’s certainly capable, and in his own way a definite gamer. And way cheaper.
Also gives Adams a shot.
I like Ross a lot but I do not think he would take a 1 yr deal which about all the Yankees seem willing to ofer these days.
Steal Hamilton and leave Daniels out in the cold
Doreen-
You are a very understanding person.
Me. I’m looking forward to the 2015 team and the new ownership.
Blake-
They won’t even spend enough to get Ross and you want Hamilton ?
Too funny my Man. Just take the “pretend” Hamilton instead.
Much would have rather had Melky for 2/17 or AJP for probably 12 or 13 million….than Youk.
But it’s over and done with now so we just have to learn to love with that mug and hope he bounces back to what he was…..they need a RH bat bad ….hopefully he can help
“Blake-
They won’t even spend enough to get Ross and you want Hamilton ?”
It ain’t over until Kevin Youkallis sings
This team looks like a geriatric ward.
What happened to younger, faster, and more athletic ?
MTU -
I just figure it’s all out of my control. Life’s too short.
Nix would have been fine – he is capable – but I think the Yankees saw how fluid he was at all the infield positions last year, and that kind of ability is hard to replace, too (apparently not everyone can do it – see Nunez, Eduardo). So I think they want to use him that way. He’ll probably see more time at 2nd base this year (I foresee Cano getting a little more rest), along with some at short and third.
@pgammo: Towers long ago targeted Profar, Andrus, Gregorius, Bogarts, got Gregorius. Now can hold Upton, repair relationship
Or trade him for something else
I’ll say again ….Melky will be the bargain of the offseason…. That contract is looking like theft in this market
MTU -
Good question. I guess it’s still a few years away, since you can’t get young in the FA market anymore.
blake -
What if Upton doesn’t want to repair that relationship???
Doreen-
Adams is a very good 2B as well.
If the Indians essentially got Trevor Bauer + for Choo then that has to help the Granderson market should they trade him …..they are different players but their value should be similar
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What if Upton doesn’t want to repair that relationship???”
That’s why I still think he may be traded
If I were Upton I would have demanded a trade like yesterday.
His ownership just threw him under a bus.
From what I could tell he did not deserve it.
And even if there were issues they should never have seen the light of day thru the press.
Get yourself over to a team who will appreciate you Justin.
As long as guys do the job, I don’t care how old they are – particularly since they’re mostly one-year deals.
But I would like to see at least one young guy on the team. I really wish Nunie was better in the field. I like his bat and his baserunning a lot.
I wish Cervelli wasn’t like a jumping bean behind the plate – but I like his energy. I hope Romine has a good back strengthening program and can stay healthy.
Is Dickerson good enough to play everyday?
Doreen-
189 drives everything else.
It’s the tail that wags the Yankee dog.
Now that towers has his SS …do the Yanks match up better for a trade? Probably not….but you never know
Good morning, everyone.
As many here at Lohud have mentioned, there’s no question now that the Yanks are dead serious about the 189 cap – regardless of what fans may wish.
It seems to me that it’s now inevitable that the Yankees will go from being one of the oldest teams in baseball in 2013 (if not the oldest?), to one of the youngest in the next year or two. With all the one year contracts to old vets and a slew of other free agents at the end of the year, it’s really difficult to see how else the Yanks can fill the ML line up and roster in 2014 than with youngsters. Yes, of course there will be other one year or short time fill-ins in 2014, but I can’t believe that they will be able to do more than a few of those deals.
Soooo… What to do? Give it their best shot now in 2013, hoping this mix of aging stars have enough left in them for one “Last Hurrah,” maybe even make a run at Hamilton on a 4-5 year contract, or get all they can now from whatever deals they can make for Grandy and Cano?
Apart from the last years of long term deals to Arod, Tex and CC, the Yanks will be looking like a VERY different team in 2015, if not 2014. A new, hopefully successful era will be beginning. The Yanks, whether sold by then or not, will have to open their checkbooks starting as soon as they feasible can to fill in the other spaces with the best players they can find at reasonable deals. But it’s obvious they’re counting on bringing up a lot of young hopefuls as well. I think the transition has been going on quietly for the last couple of years. It will be completely evident in 2014.
Though I may be a minority of one in this regard, I actually find that kind of exciting.
Chavez signed a 3mil 1 year deal. We get Youk for 12 mil.
Cashman got fleeced.
” I actually find that kind of exciting.”
Of course. But the Yankees could have been more open and honest about what their intentions were.
Better communication would have helped smooth the road.
Instead Fans have been left guessing.
They deserve better IMO.
This team is apthetic and Cashman is pathetic.
Does anyone really believe Hal is EVER going to spend money on free agents again?
He cares only about his profit margin, and not the product on the field.
Tickets go up.
Payroll and wins will go down.
Hal and Hank signed ARod to that ridiculous deal.
Everyone thought it was a bad idea.
There was no one willing to pay AROd more than 20 mm per year, and you give him 30?
Now, we have the opportunity to sign Josh Hamilton for 4 or 5 years and you can’t even make a bid. (Curtis + the excess 10 mm on ARod is less than you would pay Hamilton).
Now, they are simply scraping the bottom of the barrel and overpaying PUKE.
Signing Ichiro.
Where is the athleticism and youth?
You were embarrassed in the postseason and you have done NOTHING to change that outcome.
I am seriously boycotting this season. Not 1 dollar will be spent.
I would rather watch the Trenton and Tampa, and watch young baseball players rather than a retired beer league softball team.
The next 2 seasons are the Yankees doing their highwire act.
Let’s just hope they have a net under them.
The good news about the Choo deal is that it should set the trade market for Granderson.
Don’t get me wrong, I will love to watch some of these A and AA players make it to the big club but that doesn’t mean you can’t infuse youth and sign talent at the same time.
Ronnier, Adams, Nunez could all have filled in at 3B this season.
Sign Hamilton + trade Granderson and you just got a true presence in teh middle of your lineup.
Now what? We wait out Granderson’s 200 K year.
Watch PUKE hit .211 and fall apart in front of our eyes?
Watch Stewart and Cervelli combine for .176 + 3 HRs before Romine gets his chance?
I know there’s a lot of offseason left but …
this is hard to look at.
yanks61
I agree – it has the potential to be a very exciting time.
I think the difficulty comes in realizing the transition can’t be a smooth one, and I believe the Yankees tried to make it a smooth one, but it’s not easy to re-tool, rebuild, whatever, and still be not only competitive, but a division winner year after year.
And I also think that although we as fans may not be in love with the construct of this year’s team – won’t it also be exciting if this team of rag-tags and old geezers manages to be in the thick of things? I think it would be kinda cool. Maybe it’s not a realistic point of view, but what’s the point of being a fan if you don’t always hold out hope? Maybe it’s even more fun if it’s not a given. You know? If everyone picks these Yankees to be 3rd or 4th or worse, and they wind up winning? Isn’t that what you hope for as a fan?
Things are what they are in terms of what management is doing right now. Doesn’t mean the players on the field can’t take matters into their own hands. You can have the best team on paper and do nothing (see any number of teams from last year).
If the Yankees wanted to get back to the late 90′s model all they had to do is say so.
Most would be down with that, and there certainly would be less agitation amongst the Fanbase.
Nothing wrong with transition if that is their real intention.
Plenty wrong with trying squeeze out the last dime before a sale.
So which is it Hal ?
Inquiring minds want to know.
According to Cots the Yanks have 182 million on the books for 2013 right now…..is guess arbitration raises take that to around 190ish.
A Hamilton signing and Granderson trade adds around 10 million to it and an AJP signing takes you to 210-215 for 2013.
If they are gonna drop Payroll by 40 million in 2014 then at least go for it this year……
Tar -
I choose to assume Chavez wanted to play in Arizona.
I don’t know what happened with Keppinger – rumor was he didn’t want to play in NY and they looked into getting him last year and he didn’t want to play in NY.
What’s left? Youk. I agree $12 million is a lot. Too much.
I’d rather they spent the money on Martin. One would have to assume that management was just as disappointed in the year Martin had offensively (or maybe even more disappointed), even if they did like him on the other side of his game.
exciting times! big transition in the works! i never liked the ‘all star at every position” method of teambuilding.
the next 3 seasons the young guys are going to have to step up, and they are going to have that chance.
Chip says:
December 12, 2012 at 7:40 am
The good news about the Choo deal is that it should set the trade market for Granderson.
A comp would be the Yankees asking for Teheran from the Braves…..I don’t think they’ll get him but Delgado plus another good prospect should be fair in this market……
gotta get an outfielder to replace Grandy first though because they want to win in 2013….
Ys Guy,
Exciting how?
Like the Pirates and Astros are exciting?
I love watching prospects and I love seeing youth make a quality injection into our team but all at once?
You have to inject youth with experienced talent.
The Yanks have:
- a great fielding 1B, but his bat speed has aged 10 years since ’09
- a 2B we all know is getting traded (even if some of us don’t want him to be)
- a 40 year old SS coming off a broken ankle
- a 39 yr old 3B coming off 2 hip surgeries and no bat speed
- a LF who is coming off elbow surgery
- a CF who K’s 200 times a year and is getting traded
- no RFer
- possibly a young C
Does anyone else see this for 2014?
So now we have to constantly read about how they should have signed Melky? Look, I like Melky as much as the next man and when he was with the team I was one of his biggest proponents.
However he had zero motivation when he was on the team. He was out of shape and physically looked like he didn’t care. I’d be leery about signing him if I were the Yanks as well.
Maybe the old Melky resurfaces once he gets resigned. Never know.
Youkallis will be hard to get used to…. But aside from that I just don’t get the money commitment there and think it could have been better spent elsewhere
waaaaaaaaah!
life is exciting, change is exciting, new things are exciting!
and in baseball, young players trying to life their team is exciting!
if they sign ajp they will be the favorites in the AL East again!
embrace the new or ossify!
the Youkilis signing pretty much confirms the Yanks strategy. Have similar or slightly higher payroll in an effort to contend in 2013…… clean out the house and open the door for the kids in 2014.
Assuming Hughes gets somewhere around $ 6 M, they will have $ 94 M coming off the books in the persons of Cano, Granderson, Pettitte, Kuroda, Youkilis, Rivera, Burnett and Hughes.
Assuming they cut payroll by $ 40 M to get under the payroll tax limi they’ll have about $ 54 M to fill those voids. that can be one big time stud, two solid big leaguers and four kids — ideally Pineda, Adams, Warren and Montgomery?
Brian,
I have no idea how they plan to fill their roster for 2014. Not only will there be many positional holes but many on the pitching staff as well. They don’t have nearly the minor league quality to do this.
“be leery about signing him if I were the Yanks as well.”
We are talking about giving 12 million for one year to 34 year old who hit .235 last year and hasn’t played a full season since 2009.
Vs giving 17 million for 2 years for a guy that is 28 years old….healthy and won a batting title last year.
“Assuming they cut payroll by $ 40 M to get under the payroll tax limi they’ll have about $ 54 M to fill those voids. that can be one big time stud, two solid big leaguers and four kids — ideally Pineda, Adams, Warren and Montgomery?”
So Cano will get nearly half that….then they’ll have like 25-30 million to fill out 4 rotation spots….2 outfielders….a catcher…. A DH….and probably bullpen help too……the kids might fill some of that…..still gonna be very tough to do and still field a contender
The good news about the Choo deal is that it should set the trade market for Granderson.
A comp would be the Yankees asking for Teheran from the Braves…..I don’t think they’ll get him but Delgado plus another good prospect should be fair in this market……
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Not so sure about that.
My question would be does Towers’ stupidity in making this deal mean other GM’s have to act equally foolhardy? Pretty clear the Snakes wanted Bauer out and were content to take 65 cents on the dollar to get it done.
Hi MTU, I understand where you’re coming from. I think that the Yanks are just trying to be as competitive as possible until they have no other choice but to go deep into transition.
Doreen – you always seem to say exactly how I feel, but do it so much better. I agree, a team of old vets putting it altogether could be fun to watch. If it doesn’t work, well, it’s only for one year.
Y’s Guy. I’m definitely with you. I think it’s exciting and the Yank’s will find a way to rebuild and reboot. Starting 2014, this team is going to be something else – and we’ll probably need a lot more patience than most people around here have
what are the chances that cc or tex will look at the prospects for next season and decide to waive thier ntc rather than be her without all stars at every position?
obviously arod is an anchor we’re stuck with.
“My question would be does Towers’ stupidity in making this deal mean other GM’s have to act equally foolhardy?”
It doesn’t….which is why I said they couldn’t get a similar return like Teheran most likely….different teams…different situation …..it doesn’t mean they Yanks can get that same level of return….but it should help …..can’t hurt
Ys Guy,
In 2014, will they have an allstar at any position? Where?
Id feel a lot better about a rebuilding phase If they didn’t have over 50 million on the books for declining players and if they were better at developing players…..
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Hope you are well.
My main point is that I just think the Yankees could have done a better job of communicating with the Fan base on what the plan really is.
Shouldn’t have to be guessing or speculating about it.
Yankee fans are the best in the World. They deserve that level of honesty and openess IMO.
As far as the Farm goes. That could be a lot of fun but make no mistake about the risk there.
Most prospects either get injured or underperform.
Let’s just hope we can repeat some of the magic from the late 90′s.
@JonHeymanCBS: Ichiro will be a yankee
All the OLD gang is here
A 2014 pitching staff like this has a chance to be very good and relatively inexpensive:
Starters — Sabathia, Hughes, Nova, Pineda, Phelps
Relievers — Robertson, Chamberlain, Logan, Montgomery, Aardsma, Cabral/Rapada
The every day player situation for 2014 is far less certain and thus, a far greater concern.
Y’s-
Maybe we get lucky and A-Rod just retires.
“A 2014 pitching staff like this has a chance to be very good and relatively inexpensive:
Starters — Sabathia, Hughes, Nova, Pineda, Phelps”
Hughes isn’t signed….Nova might be a back end guy….Pineda is who knows what….and Phelps is likely a 4 starter …..
I never understood the objection to an allstar at every position. Is there a problem with a lot of good players? If our minor leaguers became all stars, should we trade them if they get too plentiful?
What is the proper ratio? Two all stars and seven average players? Three all stars and six bad players? Such a tough ratio to determine when you strive for mediocrity.
@JonHeymanCBS: Ichiro and yankees just working on structure of deal. Figuring out if it’ll be 1 yr, 1 yr plus vesting or possibly even 2 yrs
They cannot give Ichiro two years or even a vesting option unless its really cheap…..
Good morning everyone-
Youkilis now joins Johnny Damon, Mark Bellhorn, Doug Mientkiewicz, Derek Lowe, Mike Myers, and Alan Embree as members of the 2004 Red Sox to later play for the Yankees, tweets Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News.
Youkilis still has to pass a physical. Napoli signing is on hold for some reason[physical]. Don’t get your hopes up yet that Yucky will be a Yankee. What will Girardi call him-Yukey?
If they give Ichiro more money than Melky got then I give up
“My question would be does Towers’ stupidity in making this deal mean other GM’s have to act equally foolhardy?”
Why pin this on Towers ?
Maybe he was just following orders ?
It was the owner Kendricks who publicly threw JU under the bus.
Maybe the guy is a loose canon.
He didn’t like Bauer either.
Ichiro makes some sense on a strict one year deal…..he makes zero sense for anything beyond that
blake –
does anyone have that website posted a few days ago where the 2014 payroll was broken down?
So they may give the only off season’s a multi year contract to a 40 year old? That will work well.
@jonmorosi: #Yankees have spent $49MM this offseason on one-year deals. And they haven’t gotten better. My column: http://t.co/RH8OENVu @MLBONFOX
If Youkilis gets 12M, almost what he got for the past 3 years, what do the Yankees give Ichiro, who made around 17M last year and is he now the full time RF’er?
the new cba greatly incentivises getting under that cap for the yankees. they have decided to get under it. like it or dont like it, its obviously a fact.
so it’s like a test of your outlook on life. are you going to spend the next 3 years b*tching and moaning about it, are you going to turn away and stop rooting for the yankees or are you going to embrace it and root for sucess despite the slings and arrows which befall us?
as ‘rebuildings ‘ go, yankees fans are pretty damn lucky. rebuilding with a $189M budget is quite a bit better than rebuilding with a sub $50M budget like everyone else does.
and there’s this…the last time we rebuilt, the owner was so worried about revenues he was threatening to move the team to NJ.
but it worked out pretty well in the end didn’t it?
Let’s Go Yankees!
Morosi is right….the Yanks have spent a ton of money thus far in one year deal and they are either the same and a year older or worse everywhere on the diamond.
“My main point is that I just think the Yankees could have done a better job of communicating with the Fan base on what the plan really is.”
MTU, I have to agree that it’s bothered me a bit as well. Why not just get it out there. Maybe it’s because lots of more casual fans (not Lohudders) would have rebelled at the thought of a team that will ultimately be in transition.
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86w183 December 12th, 2012 at 7:57 am
the Youkilis signing pretty much confirms the Yanks strategy. Have similar or slightly higher payroll in an effort to contend in 2013…… clean out the house and open the door for the kids in 2014.
86W – Yep, that’s what I think too.
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A 2014 pitching staff like this has a chance to be very good and relatively inexpensive:
Starters — Sabathia, Hughes, Nova, Pineda, Phelps
Relievers — Robertson, Chamberlain, Logan, Montgomery, Aardsma, Cabral/Rapada
The every day player situation for 2014 is far less certain and thus, a far greater concern.
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Who knows what we’ll get from Nova or Pineda.
Logan, Joba, Hughes and Aardsma are FAs.
Not as certain as we all think.
Just being honest.
“brianlopez22 says:
December 12, 2012 at 8:17 am
blake –
does anyone have that website posted a few days ago where the 2014 payroll was broken down?”
I don’t have a link….but for luxury tax purposes they are at about 100 million now for 2014 if Jeter plays (counting bonuses etc)
Watch the Yankees give Ichiro a bigger contract than Melky got
@JonHeymanCBS: If ichiro gets 2nd year w/ yankees, he could become 2nd yankee to get 3,000th hit in pinstripes. 394 to go.
“But for those Yankee fans making their travel plans for spring training in Tampa next month, don’t expect to be seeing any exciting rookie hopefuls vying for the right field or third base jobs. In Yankeeland, “youth will be served” has been replaced by “age is good.”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2EqN3o400
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More importantly, this Youkilis signing by the Yankees, like the Ichiro one expected to come, is emblematic of the real problem they have — and refuse to acknowledge. They are by far the oldest team in baseball, made so because their player development system has failed to produce any players to replace the aging core from their championship teams. And so, they are left with no choice but to patch the tire with more geezers.
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My point about Cashman and player developemnt.
14 years and nothing to show when it matters.
Instead he does what he only knows how to do, sign FAs – and now they’re not even young FAs.
My main point is that I just think the Yankees could have done a better job of communicating with the Fan base on what the plan really is
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They’ve been pretty steadfast in their stated commitment to the $189M for 2014 for most of a year now, so to a large extent they have indicated a plan. They’re not going to tell the fans or media how they’re going to get there, nor should they. That said, their approach to this off season speaks rather loudly, no? The more astute fans, like so many here, get the picture. They don’t like it, but they get it.
Brian-
Here are your current payrolls going forward. This is payroll not AAV:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tpQLwiiQL4kzEzLhsUqVjLQ&output=html
If the Yankees are gonna slash payroll 40 million in 2014 and their window is about to close…..then I think they owe it to the fans and to Jeter and Rivera and Andy etc to go all in this year to give them and us another shot at a title in 2013.
That doesn’t mean bringing back the same group that got hammered in the ALCS a year older….,it means actually improving the club to try and win a title.
Age doesn’t matter if the production is there.
I can’t get all twisted by the age thing. Let’s see how the season plays out, no?
I would like to see some youth in there, but they’ve chosen this route for this year.
Blake-
How do you go all in this year on one year signings. They get Youkilis for 12M and the White Sox, whose manager was a 3rd baseman, get Keppinger for 12M and 3 years.
The Yankees current payroll for 2014 is around 75M for 4 players-FOUR- and that’s if Jeter picks up his option. Talk about holes to fill. The kids better be pushed quite a bit harder this coming season to jump to the majors opening day 2014.
AAA-
Merely staing a number they are commited to is not what I meant.
I’m talking about a plan. A design going forward. A mission statement, if you will.
In that regard they have done a rather poor job IMO.
I’m not saying they should reveal everything in great detail.
But it should more than younger, faster, and more atheltic.
Along with “We’re going with the kids”.
Or we are committed to winning.
Put a little more meat on those bones.
TheDA53 Someone got to Wikipedia for Kevin Towers! pic.twitter.com/o2sKCxOd
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I am disappointed in the lohud – how come the lohud has not done something like to Brian Cashman’s Wikipedia page – - – -
And I still think they can afford to part with some of their farmhands to obtain other things they may need.
And I hope they do so.
@jonmorosi: #Yankees have spent $49MM this offseason on one-year deals. And they haven’t gotten better. My column: http://t.co/RH8OENVu @MLBONFOX
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The Yankees will be better IF Cano returns to hitting lefties – - – -
The Yankees will sign Ichiro Suzuki, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports and Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com report (Twitter links). Craig Carton of WFAN first reported the deal (on Twitter).
The sides continue discussing the structure of the deal, which is not quite done, according to both Rosenthal and Heyman. The Tony Attanasio client could obtain a one-year deal, a one-year deal with an option or even a two-year deal, Heyman reports (on Twitter).
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#44f2SmiWd7yZwEFD.99
“How do you go all in this year on one year signings. They get Youkilis for 12M and the White Sox, whose manager was a 3rd baseman, get Keppinger for 12M and 3 years.”
I think it means signing AJP and it means adding a big bat for the OF either via trade or via the Josh Hamilton.
blake December 12th, 2012 at 8:35 am
If the Yankees are gonna slash payroll 40 million in 2014 and their window is about to close…..then I think they owe it to the fans and to Jeter and Rivera and Andy etc to go all in this year to give them and us another shot at a title in 2013.
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I would argue that the Yankees have paid Jeter, Rivera, Andy and everyone else more than enough to compensate for any discomfort they might find going forward.
As I said, the issue for 2014 isn’t Granderson or Cano, it’s Jeter. If he puts together another strong season he will opt out of his contract and look for the Yankees to give him another 2 years. What do they do?
As for Grandy, you don’t need to replace his power homer for homer. I would deal him to the Rockies for Tyler Colvin and Chris Nelson. Look, if you’re going to build for the long term then you need to get more for the guys who are leaving than draft picks. And Josh Hamilton isn’t coming here. With Justin Upton off the market Hamilton just got more expensive.
•Dave Cameron of U.S.S. Mariner wonders if the Mariners should now make a play for the Mets’ R.A. Dickey. Cameron argues that it’s something to think about if Justin Upton stays put in Arizona, Josh Hamilton returns to Texas, and if Nick Swisher passes on Seattle’s offer.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#44f2SmiWd7yZwEFD.99
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Or Granderson – - – -
“The Yankees will be better IF Cano returns to hitting lefties – – – -”
And if Tex returns to his form from 3 years ago etc…..they don’t need ifs … This may be their last sit to win a title for a few years
Name some current Yankee minor leaguers who could fill the many holes if all the potential FA’s are gone. I’m including Granderson, Cano and potentially Hughes not being with the team, as well as Logan and Aardsma.
“The Yankees will be better IF Cano returns to hitting lefties – – – -”
And if Tex returns to his form from 3 years ago etc…..they don’t need ifs … This may be their last sit to win a title for a few years
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Tex is a real world IF – Cano not hitting lefties is just weird – it is like his postseason performance – I am more confident in Cano than I am Teixeira – pitching is still sound – - – -
Yankee Trader December 12th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Blake-
How do you go all in this year on one year signings. They get Youkilis for 12M and the White Sox, whose manager was a 3rd baseman, get Keppinger for 12M and 3 years.
The Yankees current payroll for 2014 is around 75M for 4 players-FOUR- and that’s if Jeter picks up his option. Talk about holes to fill. The kids better be pushed quite a bit harder this coming season to jump to the majors opening day 2014.
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This is why you have to deal guys like Granderson and/or Hughes and/or Cano in 2 or 3 for 1 trades.
If you don’t believe that the players in your own farm system are ready or talented enough to contribute and next year you can’t even afford to hand out the 1 year deals that you’ve handed out these past two years then you need to make deals to fill your roster holes.
If the Yankees are gonna slash payroll 40 million in 2014 and their window is about to close…..then I think they owe it to the fans and to Jeter and Rivera and Andy etc to go all in this year to give them and us another shot at a title in 2013.
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No more so than other team owes it to their fans. Beyond that, it’s easier said than done. Can’t do it thru free agency really and most of their trade chips are in some way flawed, be it by proximity to contributing at the MLB level, contract status, and/or 2012 performance.
blake – I had that, just not sure about league minimums and Arbitration
The way I see the 40 man roster payroll for 2014:
Assuming we resign:
- Cano to 20mm AAV deal
- Jeter to 15 mm AAV deal
- Joba to 3 mm AAV deal
and assigning 15mm to the rest of the 40 man roster + 60-day DL players
Pos AAV(mm) Name
C 0.5 Romine
1B 23.125 Tex
2B 20 Cano(RESIGN)
3B 27.5 Arod
SS 15 Jeter(RESIGN)
LF
CF 5 Gardner
RF
DH
Backup C 1 Stewart
Backup IF 0.75 Nunez
Backup OF 0.75 Dickerson
Bench Utility 0.9 Nix
SP 23 CC
SP 0.75 Pineda
SP 0.75 Nova
SP 0.5 Phelps
SP 0.5 Warren
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MOP-UP
RHS 0.5 Eppley
LHS 0.5 Rapada
7th INN 0.5 Montgomery
8th INN 3 Joba(RESIGN)
CL 3 Robertson
15 Rest of 40-man + possible 60-day DL
Giving the Yankees a 127.625 mm payroll.
Now you have 60 mm to get a LF,RF,DH/3B,another starter,mop up guy
and could this team compete for the AL East?
Question is when an injury of two hit will this team be able to win 70 games ?
Name some current Yankee minor leaguers who could fill the many holes if all the potential FA’s are gone. I’m including Granderson, Cano and potentially Hughes not being with the team, as well as Logan and Aardsma.
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I will give it a try:
C – Romine/Murphy
2b – Corban Joseph/David Adams
RF – Tyler Austin
LF – Ramon Flores/Slade Heathcott
Starters: Nova, Phelps, Marshall, Turley – with the hint of a Corey Black if he keeps advancing rapidly
Reliever: Montgomery, Pinder, Goody, Whitley, Rondon, Tracy,
IMO the optimum thing the Yankees can do going forward is try to learn from what made them so successful in the latest Dynasty years.
Build a core from within and add with FA’s and strategic acquisitions.
Don’t try to have an All Star at every position.
Build a well-rounded , multi-dimensional O.
Add good SP, D, and a solid pen.
And you’re there.
Hope that’s what they are in the process of trying to do.
It worked before and it can work again.
apologies, I didn’t have the 15 mm to rest of 40 man factored in.
Its 142.625, leaving roughly 45 mm.
Even worse.
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Joelsherman1 #Yankees know they are signing Ichiro, decision is 1 yr, 1 yr with vesting option or 2-yr deal.
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I still like Ichiro – or its growing on me – has that Jason Kidd feel to it – - – -
Yankee Trader December 12th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Name some current Yankee minor leaguers who could fill the many holes if all the potential FA’s are gone. I’m including Granderson, Cano and potentially Hughes not being with the team, as well as Logan and Aardsma.
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If you went strictly with current Yankee farmhands and assumed all potential free agents leave you would be looking at a roster along these lines:
C – Romine
1b – Tex
2b – Joseph
3b – Adams
SS – Nunez
LF – Abe Almonte
CF – Gardner
RF – Zoilo Almonte
DH – Alex
Bench: Jose Pirella, Mesa, Cervelli, Mustellier
SP:
CC
Pineda
Nova
Phelps
Banuelos (hopefully)
Pen:
Closer – DRob
RHP – Montgomery, Warren, Zach Nuding, Betances
LHP – Cabral, Nik Turley
I never said the projected 2014 pitching staff was going to be great. I said it has a chance to be very good and I think that it does.
Of the pitchers on one-year deals Kuroda might be one who comes back. I think Andy and Mo are done and we know AJ isn’t coming back.
“No more so than other team owes it to their fans. Beyond that, it’s easier said than done. ”
Sign Hamilton
Sign AJP
Sign Hairston
Trade Granderson
Plan on letting Cano walk.
That makes an awesome 2013 club and also gets you under 189 and makes the team flexible longterm.
They don’t owe the fans anything no…..the fans don’t owe them anything either…. Entertain the fans I you want to keep them coming….that’s the business
Chip – Is that the Trenton Thunder roster?
I’m off to the boonies today to hike and photograph.
Have a great day.
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Is there a team out there willing to take Granderson off the Yankees hands for a good package of prospects, knowing that he has declined in all aspects of the game , except hitting homers-43- most of which were hit in YS, and to top it off will be a FA?
The Phillies were disussing getting Alfonso Soriano with the Cubs eating enough money to make him a 2year 5M/year player for a better prospect.
Granderson’s BA will never go up until he can beat the shift. I just don’t think trading him now will bring the kind of prospects you want, unless the Yankees eat a decent % of his contract.
IMO the optimum thing the Yankees can do going forward is try to learn from what made them so successful in the latest Dynasty years.
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Sure, but you recall the years before the dynasty years, right?
Not suggesting the Yankees will go south for an extended period like the dark days of the 80′s, but you do need to remember that the mid 90′s – 2000′s team was not being built while the Yankees were winning 95 games.
We’re already arguing over here..
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Thanks for your input on current minor leaguers who might be filling the opening day 2014 roster.
Chip and Blake-
I’ll await your response on realistically what Granderson might bring if traded now.
See you on the other side
If I fill the roster I posted above with
- Ronnier/Adamas at 3B (.5 AAV)
- Tyler Austin in RF (.5 AAV)
- move ARod to DH
- Sign Hamilton for AAV of 22.5
- Resign Hughes to 10 mm AAV
- Cabral in bullpen (.75 AAV)
Thats 177 mm.
But at least we have Hamilton and Cano in the same lineup.
A lot of minor leaguers, but it is possible.
Gardner CF
Jeter SS
Cano 2B
Hamilton LF
ARod DH
Tex 1B
Tyler Austin RF
Adams or Ronnier 3B
Romine C
Nunez/Dickerson/Nix/Cervelli – Bench
CC
Hughes
Pineda
Nova
Phelps
Warren/ Cabral/ Eppley/ Rapada/ Montgomery/ Joba/ DRob