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The right fit; the awkward fit

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 11, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Let’s face it, this is awkward.

The Red Sox are never popular at Yankee Stadium, and Kevin Youkilis has always been among the least popular of the bunch. That bald head and goofy batting stance were easy to boo, especially when he was hitting .300/.432/.483 with a .915 OPS (his career numbers against the Yankees). Youkilis has a higher career  OPS against just three American League teams. Four if you count his 12 at-bats against Boston.

Youkilis was the enemy. He was good, and he was awkward, and Joba Chamberlain kept coming thisclose to hitting him in the head with a fastball.

Now Kevin Youkilis — Kevin (freakin’) Youkilis! — is about to wear Yankees pinstripes.

Yep, it’s awkward.

“Everything stays on the field,” Robinson Cano told the Boston Globe this weekend. “I’ve gotten a chance to talk to him and he’s a nice guy. I’ve had a chance to meet him at the All-Star Game, and he always seemed cool in talking with everybody. There’s some guys that, the way they play the game, you say this guy is not a nice person. But he’s a great person.”

Most importantly, Youkilis is what the Yankees needed. Obviously he’s is declining, but I’ve had a handful of conversations tonight, and it’s clear that the Yankees think Youkilis can still hit. He fits their mold as a guy who grinds at-bats, and he fits their need for a right-handed hitter with power. Youkilis won’t be a Gold Glove winner at third base, but the Yankees feel he can still handle the position.

Given their situation, and given the market, that’s about the best the Yankees could ask for.

“Youk has always been a tough out,” Alex Rodriguez told The Associated Press this weekend. “He’s a tough player, a winning player. Whatever the franchise wants to do, I think that’ll be a good move for us.”

But still. It’s awkward. Really, really awkward.

“I don’t think (Chamberlain) ever hit him on purpose,” Cano told the Globe. “I would tell you that he would be the first guy who would be happy to see him on our team because we know he’s the kind of guy who would help us a lot because he’s been in a situation like that before. He can hit and he plays the game the right way.”

Next year, believe it or not, he’s going to play the game for the Yankees.

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227 Responses to “The right fit; the awkward fit”

  1. mick December 11th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    If he’s good enough for Cano , he should be good enough for y’all…

  2. Tyler December 11th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    “I’ve gotten a chance to talk to him and he’s a nice guy. I’ve had a chance to meet him at the All-Star Game, and he always seemed cool in talking with everybody. There’s some guys that, the way they play the game, you say this guy is not a nice person. But he’s a great person.”
    ———————————————————

    Well there goes my whole Youk is an a-hole spiel, haha.

  3. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Looks like David Wells on boomerang.

  4. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    People are really gonna keep pretending fans are complaining about this signing just because he was a Red Sox… sort of unbelievable…

  5. Tyler December 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    All this does is show how much more hatred we as fans have certain guys than the people playing the games. We all hate Youk, Cano loves him. Sports today.

  6. MG December 11th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Happy Hanukkah, YS Guy, austinmac, and anyone else I missed from the last thread…

  7. PhiltheThrill December 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Happy Hanukkah to all who rock it!

  8. Benny Blanco December 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    @jcrasnick: No Greinke, no Shields and no Upton match for #rangers. What impact addition is left for Texas besides Josh Hamilton?

    Please steal Hamilton and leave Texas with nothing

    =========

    i concur

  9. MG December 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
    People are really gonna keep pretending fans are complaining about this signing just because he was a Red Sox… sort of unbelievable…
    ——————
    Shame, it’s Lohud tradition to complain about everything…

  10. xcv December 11th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    awesome move – $12MM for this has-been. what’s next? $8MM for varitek to come out of retirement and catch for them?

  11. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    mg thanks but i’m a catholic school kid.

  12. pat December 11th, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    I don’t care that he played for the Sox. Having to watch the bat waggling and the whining is what makes me wish he wasn’t coming to NY

    DanGrazianoESPN
    Rare to make a move that rubs Yankees fans AND Red Sox fans the wrong way, but I think the Yankees have pulled it off.

  13. rogyanks December 11th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    The only thing awkward is Chad thinking it’s awkward.

    Was it awkward when Boggs, Clemens, Damon came over?. How about the Babe? If they perform and help us we will embrace them.

    Give us a break!!!

  14. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    i am one who always felt (and said it on here several times) that had youkilis come up through the yankees system he would have been a huge fan favorite.

    just wait till he hits a game-winner in beantown, you’ll come around.

    …or he’ll suck and the yankees will give nunez a shot at third!

  15. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    im against signing hamiliton to anything more than a 4 year deal. im quite sure he’s gonna get at least 5.

  16. MG December 11th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    Melo has been just unbelievable this year…

  17. PhiltheThrill December 11th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    I would have maybe preferred a cheaper bandaid, but the move does save prospects without blocking anyone.

  18. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Doug Gilmour is a dick, but he was still, ” killer,” in Toronto. From a distance, we don’t have to know any of these people.

  19. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    Could Granderson fetch Delgado/Teheran and Ahmed in light of today’s trade speculation involving Cincy/Clev/Arz?

  20. ron December 11th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    I’d do 5 yrs for hamilton,then trade cano,and granderson for prospects.
    Ichiro can’t hit lefties,and youk can’t hit righties.
    That’s a problem.

  21. mick December 11th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    yanks need a guy that will get dirty and shows he cares out there like Oneill did…
    with gardy out last year they had few that epitomized that.

  22. Tar December 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    I’m not sure what Ichiro is asking for. But if I was him, my price just went up.

  23. MG December 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    there is really no way to gauge how a team will hit in the playoffs-this Yankees team will hit enough win lots of games in the regular season because of the pitching strength, after that who knows.

  24. RadioKev December 11th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    I rubbed it in Sox fans’ faces when Youkilis hit on the White Sox and Middlebrooks went down… but I’m not enjoying this as much.

    Not a bad move, it’s just hard to love. It’s the mirror of the Ichiro signing.

  25. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    Happy hanukkah Geddy Lee ( Gary Lee Weinrib ), and Bob Thomas Dylan.

  26. mick December 11th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Hairston will DH vs Leftys.

  27. RMS December 11th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    If he’s good enough for Cano , he should be good enough for y’all…
    ———————————————————————————————
    What do you think Cano would say if a reporter asked him? I hate him?

    I was against the signing because Youk hit .235 last year, was hurt and I think he is declining. I don’t care if he was a RS or not.

  28. PhiltheThrill December 11th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    I wonder what the trades are.

  29. RadioKev December 11th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    I co-opted latkes tonight and made my own. Now I feel like we’re co-opting Youk. (Happy Hanukkah Yankee fans)

  30. G. Love December 11th, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    I think you have to throw out Youk’s batting avg. last year. He had that whole nonsense with Bobby V in the spring. He had the media clamoring for Middlebrooks to replace him. He had to deal with trade rumors from the team he thought he’d retire with.

    I think with a full spring to acclimate himself to the team he could bounce back pretty nicely.

    Am I thrilled he’s a Yankee? No. I honestly never thought the day would come. He’s one of the guys I loathed on the Red Sox.

    That being said, he was wronged by them. They showed zero patience for him while a buffoon manager questioned his passion for baseball in spring training.

    I think there’s a chance this can work out well if he plays with the same intensity and chip on his shoulder he was known for. He has something to prove now. I think he’ll try his hardest to outhit whoever the Red Sox have at 1b/3b next season.

  31. mick December 11th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Happy Han-youk-kah!

  32. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Radio – hopefully ( for you ) he demonstrates more common sense than my present third keeper.

  33. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Mick, you ancient rhymer!

  34. mick December 11th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    It’s Robert Zimmerman to you Mills.

  35. mick December 11th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Jeter
    Ichiro
    Tex
    Cano
    Youk
    Pierzinski
    Hairston/Ibanez
    Granderson
    Gardner

  36. austinmac December 11th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    My best hope is we don’t trade prospects for a stop gap. It doesn’t look like they will.

  37. Jerkface December 11th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    They can’t afford AJP now that they signed Youk

  38. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/P.....#038;rel=0

    Something smart and frivolous to cheer u up!

  39. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    @BNightengale: The biggest gamble in the proposed #Reds-#Indians-#Dbacks trade, according to scouts, is the skepticism whether Choo can actually play CF.

  40. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Jerkface says:
    December 11, 2012 at 8:29 pm
    They can’t afford AJP now that they signed Youk

    Sure they can….question is will they

  41. austinmac December 11th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    I agree that this move ends any chance of Pierzynski. They do care what they spend this year too.

  42. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    The Return of Stoneburner says:
    December 11, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    Could Granderson fetch Delgado/Teheran and Ahmed in light of today’s trade speculation involving Cincy/Clev/Arz?

    Not Teheran but maybe Delgado and Ahmed as I’ve been saying for weeks

  43. Triple Short of a Cycle December 11th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Here goes the Nets doing what they do best. Playing like the thugs that they are

  44. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Could Granderson fetch Delgado/Teheran and Ahmed in light of today’s trade speculation involving Cincy/Clev/Arz?
    —————————————–
    Stone-

    From what I’m reading the Braves would rather have a leadoff hitter than use Simmons or Prado as leadoff. They already have power lefties in McCann, Freeman, and Heyward.

    Personally I believe they would be more interested in Brett Gardner than Granderson.

  45. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    “I think there’s a chance this can work out well if he plays with the same intensity and chip on his shoulder he was known for. He has something to prove now. I think he’ll try his hardest to outhit whoever the Red Sox have at 1b/3b next season.”

    Yea….he should be super motivated not only to prove he can still play….but to get a new contract next winter

  46. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Do you deal Granderson for Saunders and Paxton/Mauer in light of the trade speuclation today involving Cincy/Cleve/Arz?

  47. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    JF, I know I shouldn’t be so glad about the Shields trade, but he burned me so many times, I’m glad he’s gone.

  48. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    “From what I’m reading the Braves would rather have a leadoff hitter than use Simmons or Prado as leadoff. They already have power lefties in McCann, Freeman, and Heyward.

    Personally I believe they would be more interested in Brett Gardner than Granderson.”

    I think they would be interested in both….they have Simmons, Uggla, Prado, and Upton as RH bats as well as Reed Johnson now….Simmons can lead off….I do think the Yanks may have to kick in some money for the Braves though to make it work

  49. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Granderson, Upton, Heyward would be a pretty darn good outfield

  50. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    PhiltheThrill says:
    December 11, 2012 at 8:19 pm
    I wonder what the trades are.

    Sanchez, Heathcott , and Williams for RA Dickey

  51. PhiltheThrill December 11th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    blake,

    that would be suboptimal.

  52. RadioKev December 11th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Would you guys trade one of Sanchez, Heathcott or Williams for Dickey? I probably would.

  53. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    “PhiltheThrill says:
    December 11, 2012 at 8:39 pm
    blake,

    that would be suboptimal.”

    Matt Garza might be available as well….

  54. Tar December 11th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    “I think you have to throw out Youk’s batting avg. last year.”

    Pretty sure Cashman did just that. 12 mil…. sheesh

  55. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Blake and Stone-

    Baseball America’s recent ranking of Braves Top 10 Prospects and more:

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....14449.html

    1.Julio Teheran, rhp

    2.J.R. Graham, rhp

    3Christian Bethancourt, c

    4.Sean Gilmartin, lhp

    5.Lucas Sims, rhp

    6.Mauricio Cabrera, rhp

    7.Alex Wood, lhp

    8.Evan Gattis, of/c

    9.Zeke Spruill, rhp

    10.Jose Peraza, ss

  56. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    RadioKev says:
    December 11, 2012 at 8:42 pm
    Would you guys trade one of Sanchez, Heathcott or Williams for Dickey? I probably would.

    Uhm…. I def wouldn’t Sanchez ….and I really wouldn’t like to but the issue is that they virtually have no pitchers signed for 2014…. So if he’d sign that cheapie 3 year deal floating around afterwards then Id have to think about it cause they are gonna need innings if nothing else after this year….

    Tough call….

  57. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Baseball America’s recent ranking of Braves Top 10 Prospects and more:

    http://www.baseballamerica.com…..14449.html

    Teheran is really throwing well in winter ball….you’re not getting him….but I think Delgado and Amhed might be possible as Delgado is sorta the odd man out and Ahmed is blocked…..hard to say

  58. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: choo goes to #reds. done deal.

  59. Jerkface December 11th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    I wouldn’t throw out Youk’s AVG. He hit .234 .349 .415 .764 vs RHP in 2011 as well. Its just part of a decline. He went from .275 vs RHP to .234 to .220, because his bat speed is declining and he cannot handle them.

    He went from .400 vs LHP in 2010, to .300, to .275. He still hits well vs them but not as much as he used to.

    His peek was 2009. Over .300 vs both sides, over .400 OBP vs both sides. Now he is very much in decline physically. It will be a miracle if he hits over .230 vs RHP next year.

  60. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Source: Napoli began taking his physical yesterday morning. Deal with #RedSox still not official. Story: http://t.co/byTbl2qB

  61. RadioKev December 11th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    That’s my thinking too. If he signs that deal then he’s very appealing. He’s been a seriously good pitcher the past three years…

  62. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Blake, indeed a tough call as one has to hope Dickey conveys the spirit of Wilhelm and the Niekros upon his chosen shoulder.

    Personally, I’d prefer the Jays just go out and sign Marcum.

  63. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    But isn’t a possible comparable trade with the Mariners (if they miss out on Hamilton):

    Michael Saunders is the mlb outfielder

    Nick Franklin is the no. 5 prospect and also happens to be a SS

  64. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    I would not want to be around Jon Daniels and his crew right now – - – -

  65. PittsburghYankeeFan December 11th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    The Yankees should put a Viagra sign in right field. Median age is 35? 36?

  66. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    The mariners aren’t a contender so I would think they’d be less inclined to pay for a year of Grandy….don’t think they’d do franklin

  67. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: #reds also get jason donald in choo deal. working on rest. theres a lot more.

  68. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    i disagree with those who think the youkilis signing means they wont go after ajp. i think they will.

  69. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    The Return of Stoneburner says:
    December 11, 2012 at 8:50 pm
    I would not want to be around Jon Daniels and his crew right now – – – -

    They can still get Upton…but I don’t think they ever were without including Andrus

  70. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Not sure why the Mariners are entertaining Hamilton, he belongs in Cleveland.

  71. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    The mariners aren’t a contender so I would think they’d be less inclined to pay for a year of Grandy….don’t think they’d do franklin

    *****

    True – just wondering that if they are pursuing Hamilton as hard as reports indicate and they miss and they have hard time attracting FAs – just wondering if they would take a risk with a power lefty bat they are looking for in Granderson.

  72. blake December 11th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    I think they will either sign AJP or make a trade for a catcher because they almost have to if they want to win next year

  73. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Three way trade today – I wonder what other trade will pop up either tomorrow or by the end of the week – - – -

  74. Jerkface December 11th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    i disagree with those who think the youkilis signing means they wont go after ajp. i think they will.

    How can they afford him? Afford in the sense of their budget. Signing Ichiro+AJP+RH Platoon for OF+DH & they will either set a new high in payroll or have zero room left for trades

  75. CB December 11th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    “I wonder what the trades are.”

    I’d guess they’re pretty bad. Or rather, the range at the bottom end of is abysmal with a mean of very suboptimal.

    One of the primary routes the yanks could in theory salvage this is via a trade where they extract much more value than they give up. One of the “gifts” that’s a complete outlier of probabilities.

    Those often require a creative general manager and an ace scouting organization lining up with a GM who is a poor talent evaluator or is under pressure to produce short term. Those are harder to find these days and Dayton Moore has already spoken.

    The Yankees basically have very little leverage. And all of baseball knows it. And the assets that they could trade without it really being a poor move aren’t ones that have a great deal of value in this market – Granderson, Hughes, etc.

    What they’re left with and picking through right now is probably ugly.

  76. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    Blake, I traded a catcher to you prior ( under the most horrible circumstances ) – give me something great for this year, and you can have D’Arnaud or Arencibia or John Buck for that matter – if we do this, I have to take your word on it as I have no idea what you’ve really got; that’s why AA is AA :)

  77. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    agreed blake. they have obviously made the call to stick with the plan to go under $189 next year and have once again not done anything that threatens that goal. im sure hal is going to want to be talked into signing ajp but i think across the board they are going to push for him.

    one other thing, im not sure how close to last year’s payroll signing ajp would put them, but as far as PR goes it wouldnt hurt them at all to go over last year’s payroll while still lining up to get under the LT next season.

  78. PhiltheThrill December 11th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    I’m looking forward to rebuilding.

  79. mick December 11th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    there is no budget for 2013…just one year deals.

  80. theREALkevin December 11th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Been wanting the Yankees to go after Choo for a while now. Oh well. I guess if the Reds plan on using him in CF, they don’t think Billy Hamilton will be ready this season. They’re probably right. Although it should be interesting to see exactly how much ground Choo can cover in CF.

  81. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    signing youkilis and ajp could potentially be great for romine adams and others. these guys aren’t going to play 7 days a week and are likely to miss a few games here and there even when mostly ‘healthy’ thus leaving playing time for some of these guys to step up and grab.

  82. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Jmills,
    Who you want for JP?

  83. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    I thought Choo was a deal they might try to make give he’s a rental and a pretty darn good player….but they didn’t have a SS that could be flipped to towers anyway….

  84. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Getting Youk is not any more awkward for me than seeing Boggs, Clemens or Damon as Yankees. Makes me feel a little dirty, that’s for sure. I just hope he comes in and produces.

    Looks like GMs are trying to get all their early Christmas shopping out of the way – Choo is off to the Reds for what sounds like Drew Stubbs and one of Arizona’s top pitching prospects – nice deal that I’m sure will have Blake enraged. The Reds are going to use Choo in CF and at leadoff – I’m sure that he and Boras are “thrilled” by this.

    The Phillies talked to the Cubs about Soriano for Dom Brown – Granderson’s better than Sori and owed a lot less money – may be time to engage them for Grandy. Get Brown, play him in LF, Ichiro in RF and Gardner in CF with either Ross or Hairston as a RH platoon option.

  85. Jerkface December 11th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    The Yankees are already going to be around 200 mil committed right now if you include arbitration that is not yet settled & people making around the minimum.

    The Yankees highest ever opening day is 213 mil.

  86. theREALkevin December 11th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    The Youkilis news is pretty disgusting. Besides the fact I can’t stand him, it’s an overpay, he’s in decline and injury prone. Now they have less flexibility for an additional signing or potential trade. I wish they would have tried David Adams or Corban Joseph if one of them has the arm for 3rd base (admittedly not all that familiar with them, just know they’re infielders that are on the brink potentially).

  87. Tar December 11th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Jmills

    just for you

    http://www.rollingstone.com/mu.....n-20121211

  88. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Blake-

    Does Upton now stay with the DBacks who have pretty much filled their needs after the 3 way trade goes thru?

    What catchers are potentially available that are an upgrade over Stewart if Pierzynski signs elsewhere. Catchers who won’t cost an arm and a leg in prospects?

    The Cubs are rumored to be willing to cover 26M of the remaining 36M on Soriano’s 2 yr contract for a better prospect. Any interest in having him at 5M/year?

  89. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    Blake, give me one of your starters, Kuroda or something-someone who is dependable.

  90. Jerkface December 11th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    @Buster_ESPN

    The Indians are going to get Bauer in the deal with the Diamondbacks.

  91. Jerkface December 11th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Pretty good trade for the Reds/Indians

  92. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Trader – every catcher is an upgrade over Stewart. I don’t see the Yankees signing AJP; not unless he takes a very small contract. They really do not like his work behind the plate.

    I would rather have the guy the Phillies were considering trading for Soriano than Sori himself.

  93. rickc December 11th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Very awkward and not at all right.

  94. theREALkevin December 11th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Arizona seemed pretty motivated to unload Bauer this off season

  95. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Wait who do the Dbacks get?

  96. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Current Opening Day Payrol, per Cotsl. It’s already at almost 183M for 12 players and AJ Burnett.

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tpQLwiiQL4kzEzLhsUqVjLQ&output=html

  97. jmills December 11th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Thanks Tar! They should have gone in the first time like Thurman.

  98. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Wait who do the Dbacks get?

    ***

    Reds SS prospect Gregorous – or however you spell his last name – - – -

  99. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Jerkface December 11th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Pretty good trade for the Reds/Indians
    —————-

    If Choo can play CF sure.

    Stubbs stinks but getting Bauer for Choo is pretty good for Cleveland.

    What I don’t get is if you’re Cleveland and you’re trading (or willing to trade) your vets then why do you go and sign Reynolds? If you’re going to rebuild just go all the way with it.

  100. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    theREALkevin December 11th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Arizona seemed pretty motivated to unload Bauer this off season
    ————

    Maybe they know something we don’t.

  101. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Diamondbacks’ Shaw, Albers among those going to #Indians. A. Cabrera COULD go to #Diamondbacks, with Gregorius staying in Cleveland

  102. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Man, I can’t believe the Dbacks pulled off getting an SS without giving Upton up… Should be interesting for the Rangers.

    GET ON THE HORN CASH!!

  103. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    They got a young SS Didi Gregorius

  104. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Hmm..

    @JonHeymanCBS

    gregorius goes to #dbacks, as @DKnobler said

  105. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Could see Arizona moving Kubel before Upton as mentioned earlier in offseason – - – -

  106. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Sounds like some wires are crossed… did the Dbacks get Cabrera?? I sorta lean towards believing Rosenthal..

  107. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Shame-

    Guess I’m wrong on Gregorius going to DBacks.

  108. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    @Buster_ESPN: The Indians are going to get Bauer in the deal with the Diamondbacks.

    They are dumb for trading him

  109. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    @Dbacks

    OFFICIAL: #Dbacks acquire SS Didi Gregorius, LHP Tony Sipp & 1B Lars Anderson from CLE for RHPs Trevor Bauer, Matt Albers and Bryan Shaw

  110. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Diamondbacks’ Shaw, Albers among those going to #Indians. A. Cabrera COULD go to #Diamondbacks, with Gregorius staying in Cleveland
    —————

    That would be quite interesting.

    Wonder if Eduardo Nunez, Gary Sanchez, Joba Chamberlain and Tyler Austin gets the Yankees Carlos Santana and Chris Perez

  111. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    @Buster_ESPN

    High-ranking D-Backs’ exec told friends over the weekend he didn’t want team to trade Justin Upton. Now a deal looks much less likely.

  112. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    not a particularly well-played game between the knicks and nets so far but its shaping up to be a good finish!

  113. theREALkevin December 11th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Chip,

    I feel like I recall reading something saying that the D-Backs weren’t happy with Bauer for some reason. Can’t remember for sure.

  114. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Shame-

    Now I guess I’m right. :)

  115. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    @Buster_ESPN: Another ripple: Texas didn’t get Greinke or Shields, and may not get Justin Upton, it appears.

    Steal Hamilton!

    The Indians got Bauer for a year of Choo….nice

  116. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    @Indians

    …new #Indians include (from ARI) RHP Trevor Bauer, RHP Matt Albers, RHP Bryan Shaw & (from CIN) OF Drew Stubbs…

  117. Jerkface December 11th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    If Choo can play CF sure.

    No its a great trade for the Reds regardless, they didn’t give up a lot and got 2 major league players 1 of whom is very, very good. If Choo can’t play CF they can just play him in RF. Ludwick or Bruce can play CF in that situation.

    Getting a player of Choo’s caliber is never a bad move when you give up a guy like Gregorious & Drew Stubbs who stinks

  118. igotid88 December 11th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Maybe they’ll use Youk for a trade and get a catcher and 3rd basemen.

  119. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    The Indians got Bauer for a year of Choo….nice

    —————–

    Man… they gotta be working on something with Grandy…

  120. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    I love it for the Indians

  121. Captain Clutch December 11th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Great job by the Indians getting Bauer. Not bad since the Indians knew that Choo was going to leave after next year and the Reds only have him for 1 year. Too bad Cashman can’t pull off something like that for Granderson without getting robbed.

  122. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    @Buster_ESPN: Another ripple: Texas didn’t get Greinke or Shields, and may not get Justin Upton, it appears.

    Steal Hamilton!
    ———————-
    My guess is Hamilton’s price just went up

  123. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Trader – :D

    We should either steal Hamilton (though I’m sure we’re not the only ones thinking that..) or see if we can get Upton..

  124. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    I love it for the Indians
    ———————

    Granderson to the Phillies for Dom Brown?

  125. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    I guess Towers is thinking ….he didn’t get Andrus or Simmons but he did get a controllable SS an he still has Upton….

    I still think their is a chance Upton gets moved cause reports are he’s not happy ….and now KT can shop him for other stuff

  126. Triple Short of a Cycle December 11th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Bauer is overrated. His control is embarrassing and he is stubborn beyond belief.

  127. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Maybe they could give AZ something they could flip… or work another one of these multi-team trades.

    You know, with the FA situation being what it is, I think multi-team trades are going to be a much more common occurrence.

  128. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Bauer is on the outs with ownership just like Upton.

    Somehow both of those got crosswise.

    ;)

  129. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    “Granderson to the Phillies for Dom Brown?”

    Can’t trade Grandy without replacing him first….but if they signed Hamiltonfirst then sure….

  130. Against All Odds December 11th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Changing sports for a second how long before D’antoni gets fired

  131. CB December 11th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    At this point I’m fine with Youkilis – or at least indifferent. It’s fine. He fits the role scoped by the diminished baseball expectations the organization now holds. In many ways he’s the perfect new model Yankee.

    The handwriting was clearly on the wall once Keppinger and Chavez came off the board. It was going to be Youk. Once they went to that ludicrous 12M mark (a figure which will clearly limit other moves they can make in ’13) it was going to get done.

    My main concern with Youkilis is his bat speed. His hands haven’t looked particularly good the last two seasons or so. And he has significant movement in his set up. That’s not a good combination.

    We’ll have to hope that’s temporary-related to injury or the weird situation in Boston. But it’s a real concern. Significant down side risk on his performance.

  132. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    I guess Towers is thinking ….he didn’t get Andrus or Simmons but he did get a controllable SS an he still has Upton….

    I still think their is a chance Upton gets moved cause reports are he’s not happy ….and now KT can shop him for other stuff
    ——————

    If he got the prospect along with Asdrubal and the most significant chip he gave up was a pitcher he didn’t want – yeah I would say that’s a good day’s work.

  133. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    I love it for the Indians
    ———————

    Granderson to the Phillies for Dom Brown?

    ———-

    It’s worth a shot.. another option is to give up peanuts for Soriano if the Cubs take on some of his salary. In that scenario we can still get our $$ worth from Grandy this year.

  134. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    @JeffPassan: If this trade shows anything, it’s how badly the D-backs had soured on Trevor Bauer. Scouts still think he’s got star written all over him.

    The Dbacks seem to sour on super talented guys rather easily

  135. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    “Granderson to the Phillies for Dom Brown?”

    Can’t trade Grandy without replacing him first….but if they signed Hamiltonfirst then sure….
    —————

    They’re not going to replace Granderson before they let him walk as a FA next offseason anyway – so what’s the difference?

  136. Laura - I Bleed Blue December 11th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    People need to realize that Pukelis putting on the stripes is different from Damon or Boggs or Clemens. The fan base hated Damon and Boggs and Clemens purely because they were Red Sox players. The fan base hates Pukelis because he is a whiny, ugly, annoying, stupid batting stance jerk. I won’t boo him; I’m just going to act like he doesn’t exist. Call it a coping mechanism.

  137. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    @Buster_ESPN

    Winter winner in the AL West so far (with more moves to come): The Oakland Athletics.

    You know, I was thinking there was an outside shot the A’s might make some crazy surprising move for Hamilton… They very likely will do no such thing but I still think he might end up with an unexpected club like the Phillies, A’s or Brewers.

  138. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Laura – I Bleed Blue December 11th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    People need to realize that Pukelis putting on the stripes is different from Damon or Boggs or Clemens. The fan base hated Damon and Boggs and Clemens purely because they were Red Sox players. The fan base hates Pukelis because he is a whiny, ugly, annoying, stupid batting stance jerk. I won’t boo him; I’m just going to act like he doesn’t exist. Call it a coping mechanism.

    —————-

    :lol:

  139. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    “The Dbacks seem to sour on super talented guys rather easily”

    Makes you wonder about the owner.

    ;)

  140. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    @JeffPassan: If this trade shows anything, it’s how badly the D-backs had soured on Trevor Bauer. Scouts still think he’s got star written all over him.

    The Dbacks seem to sour on super talented guys rather easily
    —————

    We don’t know what these guys are like – could be that guys like Drew, Upton, even Bauer have a makeup that the D’backs just don’t want around their club.

  141. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Chip-

    According to Crasnick the Diamondbacks “will also listen” to offers on Bauer because the 2011 third overall pick “has fallen out of favor with some people in the organization.”

    Bauer made his big-league debut in June, struggled in four starts, and was sent back to Triple-A … where he remained for the remainder of the season. And then last month owner Ken Kendrick made comments during a radio interview about how the team was unhappy with Bauer, refusing to answer a simple “yes” when asked if he was a big part of the long-term plans

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......mondbacks/

  142. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Chip-

    I’ll take ‘em.

    ;)

  143. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    They’re not going to replace Granderson before they let him walk as a FA next offseason anyway – so what’s the difference?

    —————-

    It really just keeps getting more and more absurd :lol:

  144. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    YT-

    This Kendricks guy sounds like a loose canon.

  145. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Trader -

    Yeah, like I said, Bauer could have just been a guy whose attitude made him unattractive to what Towers is trying to build in Arizona.

    I’m fine with that – talent’s important but it’s not the only factor.

  146. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Another exciting trade and the Yankees are not even sniffing around. Cmon Brian.

  147. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    “They’re not going to replace Granderson before they let him walk as a FA next offseason anyway – so what’s the difference?”

    Because 2013 matters…..otherwise they wouldn’t even bother will all these big money one year deals

  148. Captain Clutch December 11th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    If Cashman can get a good prospect for Granderson he better pull the trigger. If the Yanks want to lower the pay roll they will need some cheaper guys on the roster. They have to start building for the future since everyone knows that Granderson won’t be back after next year.

  149. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    “We don’t know what these guys are like – could be that guys like Drew, Upton, even Bauer have a makeup that the D’backs just don’t want around their club.”

    Not unusual for guys in their early 20s to have maturity issues….I’ll take the talent

  150. yankeefeminista December 11th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Trisha, please visit your Lohud family before doing anything rash. :mrgreen:

  151. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    They’re not going to replace Granderson before they let him walk as a FA next offseason anyway – so what’s the difference?

    —————-

    It really just keeps getting more and more absurd
    —————

    I just mean that Dom Brown may not be as good as Granderson, but he’s probably better than whomever the Yankees would take with the compensatory pick they will get for Granderson in the 2014 draft

  152. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    They cannot let Granderson go w/o an adequate replacement.

    Say what you want about his K’s and BA. The guy has a lot of power which would need to be replaced.

    And he still plays a decent CF.

  153. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    If the Indians are open for business now then id love to see what Santana would cost

  154. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    Hamilton to the Braves, Shame?

    Maybe Towers is saving Justin Upton for his pal who hired him when no-one else would-Brian Cashman.

  155. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    @JeffPassan: Like the glove and the pedigree. Worry about the bat. Though if he can field, that’s mostly what they want. RT @AAustinC: Your take on DiDi?

    Nunez not being able to field sucks

  156. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    “We don’t know what these guys are like – could be that guys like Drew, Upton, even Bauer have a makeup that the D’backs just don’t want around their club.”

    Not unusual for guys in their early 20s to have maturity issues….I’ll take the talent
    ————

    Eh – you send a message to your organization that you’re going to do things a certain way and if you’re not on board then you can be replaced. If you can get someone like Cabrera in a deal for him…even better.

  157. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Blake-

    You are wasting your time.

  158. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    I wish the Yanks could pull off a J Upton deal now that Towers has his SS…..I don’t see it though

  159. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    If the Indians are open for business now then id love to see what Santana would cost
    ————

    Gary Sanchez, Tyler Austin, Eduardo Nunez

  160. Tar December 11th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Melo wants this game bad.

  161. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    BTW-Youkilis still has to pass a physical.

  162. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    “Gary Sanchez, Tyler Austin, Eduardo Nunez”

    Don’t think Id do that

  163. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Chip – No, I know what you mean lol, I’m actually with you on this.. We need someone controlled beyond this year at an affordable cost because even though they’ll have a bunch of contracts (Andy, Kuroda, Mo) coming off the books I’m not convinced they might not need to reup at least one of those guys.. Also all the other holes (3B, 2B, RF/LF, and maybe C, DH) that will/might open up.

    They need someone else in the field controlled besides Tex, Gardner, Arod and Jeter.

  164. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    “Gary Sanchez, Tyler Austin, Eduardo Nunez”

    Don’t think Id do that
    —————

    Why not? I know they have upside but there’s not a sure thing in the bunch. I was actually thinking that it wouldn’t be enough for the Indians.

  165. Captain Clutch December 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    Cashman scares me when it comes to making a trade

  166. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    Sanchez is a tough piece to give up..

  167. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    “Why not? I know they have upside but there’s not a sure thing in the bunch. I was actually thinking that it wouldn’t be enough for the Indians.”

    Id think about it but I don’t want to trade Sanchez….Santana is controlled and a pretty good hitter though….not a great defender.

    Sanchez may never be as good as Santana though so you’d have to consider it….Cleveland may need more

  168. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    Sanchez is a tough piece to give up..
    —————–

    If you’re getting Carlos Santana you’re pretty well set at catcher for the next 6 years. Sanchez becomes redundant.

  169. Nick in SF December 11th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    The Kidd from Cal!

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rU2D.....d-kidd.jpg

  170. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    The Yankees are going to be real fun and exciting to watch- in 2015/16.

    :(

  171. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    manhattan reigns supreme tonight! great finish!

  172. Triple Short of a Cycle December 11th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Take that Nets!!!!!!!!

  173. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    “Why not? I know they have upside but there’s not a sure thing in the bunch. I was actually thinking that it wouldn’t be enough for the Indians.”

    Id think about it but I don’t want to trade Sanchez….Santana is controlled and a pretty good hitter though….not a great defender.

    Sanchez may never be as good as Santana though so you’d have to consider it….Cleveland may need more
    —————-

    Well my guess is that the Royals wish they could have gotten James Shields without giving up Wil Myers – but if you want talent you generally have to give back something in return.

    Like I said, this would be a no brainer for the Yankees – Cleveland would probably ask for more – like Nova – to be included.

  174. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    The Yankees are going to be real fun and exciting to watch- in 2015/16.
    ————————
    Never know. Could end up being fun.

  175. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    I was thinking there wasn’t enough big league talent in that deal to get us Santana..

  176. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Chip,

    Maybe….I doubt Girardi would accept Santana’s defense anyway

  177. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    But yes I could see how Sanchez and Santana could be redundant.. the Yanks would probably decide they like Murphy’s defense better :|

  178. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    If Youkilis doesn’t perform just have him stand in the corner and let his teammates throw empty beer bottles and chicken wings at him.

    That should motivate him.

    :)

  179. jr1212 December 11th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    I remember having arguments here about Melo…..one of the top 3 scores in the league

  180. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    By the way – over/under on combined strikeouts by Reynolds and Stubbs next year: 300

  181. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Chip,

    Maybe….I doubt Girardi would accept Santana’s defense anyway
    —————-

    If that’s the case then Sanchez won’t play for the Yankees either.

  182. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    Chip says:
    December 11, 2012 at 9:45 pm
    By the way – over/under on combined strikeouts by Reynolds and Stubbs next year: 300

    If they both get a full. Season of ABs….over

  183. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    “If that’s the case then Sanchez won’t play for the Yankees either”

    Probably not…..

  184. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Seeing Youkilis come over to the Yankees evokes three feelings :

    1) Like someone just stuck their finger down my throat

    2) Has me checking the bottom of my shoes to see what I just stepped in

    3) Makes me want to take a shower

  185. Ys Guy December 11th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    JR Smith played some game tonight when he couldnt even stand up straight the whole game.

    knicks playing some inspired basketball.

  186. Triple Short of a Cycle December 11th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    It should get easier against the Nets once Stat comes back

  187. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Seeing Youkilis come over to the Yankees evokes three feelings :

    1) Like someone just stuck their finger down my throat

    2) Has me checking the bottom of my shoes to see what I just stepped in

    3) Makes me want to take a shower
    ————-

    Eh, we survived Boggs, Clemens and Damon we’ll survive this too

  188. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Chip-

    Don’t think so.

    But I will enjoy the excellent Pitching regardless.

    ;)

  189. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    @Gambo620: Justin Upton will not be traded. Arizona will not be entertaining any more offers for Upton’s services. He is staying a Dback.

    Wow if true…. If that’s true then I hope they stop screwing with the kid every winter and trade deadline

  190. jr1212 December 11th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Triple short of cycle,

    Don’t forget Shumpert….his addition will be huge

  191. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Youk is described as “Some kind of fired up” to sign with the Yankees.

  192. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    Chip-

    It’s gonna take a Whiiiiiiiiiiiile on Youkilis.

    Might never happen for me.

    We’ll see.

    P.S. I actually always liked Johnny D. Never liked KY. Him, Ramirez, and Pedro always rubbed me the wrong way. Lot’s of water under that bridge.

  193. Tar December 11th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    “Youk is described as “Some kind of fired up” to sign with the Yankees.”

    That seems kind of funny. I thought he waited a week with an offer in hand.

    But I do agree he will be highly motivated to stick it to the Sox.

  194. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    @BNightengale: Kevin Towers says it’s now unlikely they will trade Justin Upton, but will still listen to all offers. #Dbacks

  195. DaSaint007 December 11th, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Granderson could be flipped for an arm, and then Hughes plus a young catcher could be flipped for Upton. I see a Kennedy Hughes reunion coming….Yankees not paying for a Hughes extension…

  196. Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    Chip-

    It’s gonna take a Whiiiiiiiiiiiile on Youkilis.

    Might never happen for me.

    We’ll see.

    P.S. I actually always liked Johnny D. Never liked KY. Him, Ramirez, and Pedro always rubbed me the wrong way. Lot’s of water under that bridge.
    ————-

    My bet is that we’ll see a game where Youk will be cheered and Alex will be booed at home.

  197. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Blake-

    I don’t believe it.

    If I were JU I’d request a trade.

  198. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    @Gambo620: Justin Upton will not be traded. Arizona will not be entertaining any more offers for Upton’s services. He is staying a Dback.

    Wow if true…. If that’s true then I hope they stop screwing with the kid every winter and trade deadline

    ———————

    His name isn’t gonna go away… there’s definitely still going to be speculation on them moving him. We’ll hear his name again by the deadline if they don’t move him before the season starts.

  199. yankeefeminista December 11th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    It could be worse, Varitek could be coming out of retirement to catch for us. :mrgreen:

  200. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    They’ve been talking about ‘not being happy with’ Upton for a while now… I just don’t see anyway he finishes out that deal… maybe he’ll suck to start off the season because he’s so discontent that we can snap him up on the cheap :D

  201. blake December 11th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Reports are that Upton isn’t happy….. So yea he may still get dealt…hope Cash is talking to KT

  202. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Youkilis is all fired up ?

    Help him out and burn him at the stake.

    :)

  203. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Knicks beat Reggie Evans Rebound Machine and the Nets – Mike ‘Atoni loses again with his Lakers – Rangers may not get Upton – pretty good night – - – -

  204. blake December 11th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    @jcrasnick: If Justin Upton is staying put, as Towers says, how do #Rangers not sign Josh Hamilton? #optionsdwindling

    Maybe JH doesn’t want to be second fiddle

  205. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Chip December 11th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Youk is described as “Some kind of fired up” to sign with the Yankees.

    ——————

    I hope he and Ichiro have some sort of resurgence.. and I do sort of love that the pinstripes are believed to have special powers like Batman’s suit or something.

    Maybe we can just make a move to add Sori so you have Soriano/Ichi/Gardner/Granderson and sign AJP…keeps all our prospects mostly and would certainly be competitive with our staff.

  206. blake December 11th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    @Evan_P_Grant: If Rangers don’t go get Hamilton, I think they withdraw from the market and look at the kids all year long (Martin, Perez, Profar, etc.)

  207. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Texas will not be the greatest fan environment for Josh Hamilton – still some very bitter feelings regarding how he played down the stretch from the fans – fueled by the radio personalities – many wanted Greinke or Shields plus Upton – should be interesting – - – -

  208. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    blake December 11th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    @jcrasnick: If Justin Upton is staying put, as Towers says, how do #Rangers not sign Josh Hamilton? #optionsdwindling

    Maybe JH doesn’t want to be second fiddle

    ——

    Texas could surprise us and just make a move for Swish and hold off until things play out in the first half.. add a pitcher like Sanchez or something and all it a day.

  209. blake December 11th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    @Buster_ESPN: Question about Arizona part of the deal: Is the upgrade that Didi Gregorius represents over Cliff Pennington worth Trevor Bauer?

    Yea I’m not so sure

  210. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    @Buster_ESPN: Question about Arizona part of the deal: Is the upgrade that Didi Gregorius represents over Cliff Pennington worth Trevor Bauer?

    ***

    Yes Buster – the name Didi Gregorius is awesome – - – -

  211. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Shame-

    Are you purposely trying to make me sick, or is it just accidental ?

    :)

  212. Nick in SF December 11th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    “They’ve been talking about ‘not being happy with’ Upton for a while now…”

    I think we talk about it more than they ever did. But I agree that they should trade Upton; they can’t compete with the Dodger$™ anyway. Similarly, the Giants should let us have Buster Posey.

  213. blake December 11th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    @BNightengale: The #Rangers, part of the original proposed blockbuster in Nashville, now likely will be left without Upton, with #Dbacks getting a SS.

  214. randy l. December 11th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    you people have it all wrong. he’s not PLAYING third base.

    youkillis is literally going to be third base.

    it’s just weird yankee humor.

    yankee runners get to kick him when they run by.

  215. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    Just amazed Jon Daniels could not get the Upton deal done – - – -as of now – - – -

  216. blake December 11th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    @Evan_P_Grant: Also think that if Hamilton lands elsewhere, it does give Rangers ability to make a long-term offer to Elvis.

  217. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    and did Kevin Towers drop the ball by focusing too much on position of need rather trying to get the best player available with his assets – dunno – - – -

  218. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    This year’s Yankee team is, in a word, “sexy” in an old John Deere tractor sort of way.

    :)

  219. The Return of Stoneburner December 11th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    New post ->

  220. MTU December 11th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    But I’m happy because I have exclusive rights to sell Geritol to the Yankees.

    So why should I worry ?

    Have a good evening.

  221. Shame Spencer December 11th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Nick in SF December 11th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    “They’ve been talking about ‘not being happy with’ Upton for a while now…”

    I think we talk about it more than they ever did. But I agree that they should trade Upton; they can’t compete with the Dodger$™ anyway. Similarly, the Giants should let us have Buster Posey.

    —————————-

    Via Ken Rosenthal: In other news, Jerry Crasnick says the D’Backs will also listen to offers for 21-year-old right-hander Trevor Bauer, who has fallen out of favor with some in the organization. Same thing as Upton here, if he’s truly available, the Yankees need to at least make the call.

    Arizona Diamondbacks have to end song and dance with Justin Upton: http://arizonasports.com/166/1.....l-Colliano

    Although he is generally regarded as a fine corner outfielder, advanced statistics suggest that his fielding has been less than stellar this year. He has been publicly called out by the team’s owner, and benched for a few games in a row at one point in an effort to “clear his head.” – From NESN

  222. Yankee Trader December 11th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Blake-

    Elvis?

    Andrus or Fat Elvis-Berkman?

  223. Nick in SF December 11th, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    Yes, and I still think we talk about it here more then they ever did. See: ten million links.

    :arrow:

  224. Duh Innings II December 11th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    I don’t have a problem with Youkilis the player and I could care less about him as the person moreover however he acts on the field is nothing personal save to a thinskinned player who needs to get thick skin if he wants to survive as a big league baseball player, I just don’t like that the Yanks paid him double what the Indians paid Reynolds and an amount equal to the cost of Melky ($8M) and Soria ($4M.) The Yanks should’ve used the $12M they signed Youkilis for to sign Melky and Soria then signed Hannahan, RF and 3B solved, the bullpen strengthened, and the DH less of a priority to fill as you can see who’s left to get cheap.

    The Yanks couldn’t wait and see what Reynolds got then make an offer to Youkilis? Had they done that and Reynolds still got $6M, I’d have offered Youkilis a year and $4M take it or leave it because he’s not the power threat Reynolds is, a savings of $8M. If Youkilis rejected it, I’d offer Jack Hannahan the same contract, again, take it or leave it, and I bet he’d have taken it vuz that’s over triple his 2012 salary of $1.14M.

    Watch Hannahan post .273/.340/.400 with 13 HR and 65 RBI for someone which ain’t very good but it’s better than what A-Rod will post in 2013 or 2014 the way he’s going and pretty good for the no more than $4M I expect him to get.

  225. 98NYY December 12th, 2012 at 12:19 am

    You kill us is now one of us. Hopefully the fans don’t use that mantra during one of his slumps.

  226. 98NYY December 12th, 2012 at 12:21 am

    John may be singing “New Youk, New Youk” when he hits one out.

  227. bobharrah December 12th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    I was never a Youkilis fan, but admired his skills, as far as a Yankeee fan could admit, and he IS a gamer. I used to delight in calling him ‘Puke’ when he played, and probably still will, even if he excels! You see, I did not like Wade Boggs or Johhny Damon either, with Boston, but let’s give the Puke a chance.

    “All we are saying, is give Puke a chance’. [a song]

    Seriously, for better or worse, the Yankess got a third baseman, a back-up first baseman [which they can use since Swish left], and a part-time DH, and even pinch hitter with power potential. Not bad, theoretically….

    And if Puke mashes, and returns to top form, could be stay a few years, and Tex go? [considering the austerity drive, and saved millions from Tex's salary]? Unlike O-Roids, Tex is still tradeable/desireable to some contending team[s], in my opinion.

    Personally, I’d hate to see Tex go, but I am disappointed in his decline in batting average, and reluctance to go to left against a shift [or any time for that matter!], or lay down a bunt toward the semi-empty left side of the infield [in situations, not always, just like swinging for the fence should be situational, not virtually every at bat]. More doubles, please, Tex, and singles to left.

    A home run is nice, and I love them, and one swing/one [home] run is a good inning, right? Well, I’d rather see a single or a walk, a double mixed together for one run than homer. Because the pitcher has to burn more pitches, and maybe even make him MORE suseptable to tiring and leaving the ball up for, guess what? A potential blow out causing home run with one or two men still on base, one run already in.


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