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Notes from Cashman: Still no official comment on Ichiro

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 14, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

During today’s conference call to discuss the Kevin Youkilis signing, general manager Brian Cashman was not surprisingly asked about Ichiro Suzuki. Also not surprising was his response:

“I’m not in position to say,” Cashman said. “We’re still down an outfielder.”

With Suzuki believed to be on the verge of a two-year deal, though, Cashman did acknowledge that the Yankees are in the market for a right-handed outfielder. And in keeping with the theme of this offseason, he promised to patient in his pursuit.

“I think without question it’s in our best interest if we can find someone we’re comfortable with at some point between now and Opening Day, even if it takes us through spring training,” Cashman said. “Having a right-handed option for our manager would be a significant benefit, yes. (But) I’m not going to all of a sudden do something I’m not comfortable with just because we need that spot.”

A few other topics brought up with Cashman today:

Are the Yankees better now than they were last season?
“I think that it’s too early to say that we’ve gotten better or not. Last year’s team won 95 games and had a ton of injuries. We’re still putting a team together for 2013 so it’s not in a position to do a comparison yet, whatever the 2013 team will look like compared to the 2012 team. It’s too early in the process to have those types of discussions.”

How much financial wiggle room is left?
“Obviously we need to finalize and finish off bringing another outfielder in to play here. The bench is obviously a lot of important players that were key components to us that can come off the bench or play a role in the DH spot. We’ve got more work to do. But a lot of our work, as you know, the players that have been substantial contributors over the last number of years have been January signs. The bottom line is tomorrow is not Opening Day, and so we’ve got a lot of time on the clock here to methodically continue putting a roster together and putting something together that really has a chance to put us back where we were last year, which was winning the division and competing for the title.”

Is the age of the roster a concern?
“I’d say you’re always concerned about it, but I’m not concerned about it when you look at the alternatives. The alternative is, ‘Hey, I could get a younger player that just isn’t very good.’ You could run him out there for 162. It wouldn’t hurt, but he wouldn’t help you.”

Will it be strange to see another team in baseball with a higher payroll?
“It’s not a focus for us. The only thing we usually want to be called is a team that can honestly compete for a world championship. We don’t necessarily equate it to dollars. I know that dollars get put into the conversation, but it’s not into our conversation. You don’t get a trophy for having the highest payroll.”

Do you have indications that Youkilis can bounce back next season?
“We have our internal evaluations and assessments, both from a scouting perspective as well as a data collection and evaluation. He is by far the best opportunity on the board, so we feel comfortable. As long as he stays healthy, he’s going to contribute in a big way about how he approaches the game and the success he can have while on the field. I’m just very comfortable with him and know I can run him out there on a daily basis at third.”

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113 Responses to “Notes from Cashman: Still no official comment on Ichiro”

  1. exiledintampa December 14th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    From that picture; Ichiro and Joe could be monkeys in the Wizzard of Oz without too much makeup.

  2. PacoDooley December 14th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    On the bright side with Youk, he is still only 33. On the other hand, he has also been an injury waiting to happen over the last few years, so age may be irrelevant. But at 33 you can at least hope he could put together a quality and healthy season.

  3. ron December 14th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    4. By signing all these one-year contracts, the Yankees are putting all their eggs in next winter’s free agent basket. They’re going to need three starting pitchers, two outfielders, a catcher, maybe a third baseman, maybe a shortstop, maybe a second baseman, maybe a DH, and various relievers and bench players next offseason. Here is next year’s free agent list, which will inevitably dwindle as players sign extensions during the next ten months. Free agency is by far the most inefficient and cost ineffective way to build a team, yet the Yankees are going to have to rely on that list of players in 2014 barring any farm system surprises next summer. I wouldn’t count on any and yet I fear the Yankees are.

  4. pat December 14th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    It is interesting to note that once word leaked out early this month about A-Rod’s status, the Yankees received plenty of inquiries from players and agents who felt they could help fill the hole.

    One was from Cody Ransom, the man who started the 2009 season as the Opening Day 3rd baseman when A-Rod has his first hip surgery.

    Another, a bit more intriguing inquiry, came from Troy Glaus. Retired after the 2010 season, Glaus is actually still younger than A-Rod by one year. Glaus, who hit 320 home runs in his 13-year career (and 7 more in the 2002 postseason, named World Series MVP for the Angels), reached out to the Yankees and expressed an interest in coming back if the team was interested.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20.....-a-yankee/

  5. The Return of Stoneburner December 14th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Huntington says that it’s no guarantee that Joel Hanrahan will be dealt. The team’s plan is to keep Garrett Jones in the fold for next season, but won’t make any promises (via Twitter).
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#9Yvd9ZLw6RZ6FTrm.99

    *****

    Garrett Jones – go get him $man – - – -

  6. tucker December 14th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    Troy Glaus? A mannequin with a glove at third would record more outs.

  7. austinmac December 14th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    Ron,

    That is the state of things and the plan, if such is a plan. It seems more a grasping at straws.

  8. blake December 14th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    I think they should go after Dickey….he fits the age range they like

  9. Against All Odds December 14th, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Lol Tucker that’s funny

  10. Shame Spencer December 14th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    blake December 14th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    I think they should go after Dickey….he fits the age range they like

    —————

    He’d be a great pick up IMO, because it would allow you to deal some pitching for another need but the Mets could probably get more from other teams for him.

    I still dunno how seriously to take Cash when he says he wasn’t in on a trade for a 3B…. I hope it means he’s too busy trying to deal for and OFer! And I also hope all this talk about only needing 1 more OFer is being overblown lol, because we need 2 more.

  11. raymagnetic December 14th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Dickey is no Matt Cain but he did somehow manage to win the Cy Young last year. So there’s that.

  12. comet December 14th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Hey there Ray and Shame!

    Shame I’m very doubtful we see NHL hockey this year. Whadda ya think?

    Grass still green here. Winter not far away.

  13. blake December 14th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Id love to get Dickey….Id immediately offer him the extension the Mets won’t because he’s worth more than that and the contract would likely be very tradeable.

    The Rangers seem very willing to move Olt…..they want pitching but they also need an outfielder.

    How about Granderson and Nova for Olt, Martin Perez and murphey.

  14. RadioKev December 14th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Doubt the Mets would make that trade to the Yankees, even if we were willing to move the pieces. Heck, they wouldn’t let the Yankees bring a minor league team to Newark.

  15. comet December 14th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Hey Blake:

    Just how disapointed are with this off season. I’m not looking for much more than an 85 88 win season next year and that may be generous.

  16. blake December 14th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    “Just how disapointed are with this off season. I’m not looking for much more than an 85 88 win season next year and that may be generous.”

    I’m more disappointed in the apparent lack of a long term plan ….

    I think they are carrying a lot of risk right now and very well could end up being an 85 -90 win team if some injuries hit or some guys decline further.

    I do think everything for 2013 could work out though and the they could make the playoffs again…..it’s just where things to after 2013 that Im really unsure about

  17. raymagnetic December 14th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    What’s up Comet? I’m not as down on the Yanks as some people are. I still have them pegged to win 93+ games once the roster is complete.

  18. austinmac December 14th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    At what point can we realistically be concerned about the Jays? Adding Dickey would be there for me, if they are not already a concern.

    This year’s team will likely not be a playoff team. Too many old players would have to stay healthy. That is not realistic. Then, the excuse will be injuries.

    Morse far before Hairston. Hairston would hit .240-.250 with little power. That is who he is. Morse might be pretty good.

  19. Shame Spencer December 14th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Take it for what it’s worth:

    @LostNYY

    Heard that Cashman pushed for Hamilton but was ultimately shot down by Hal Steinbrenner. #Yankees

  20. RayVT December 14th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    The funny thing is baseball is hat they still have to play the games to decide a winner over the WHOLE season. The Yankees may surprise a lot of Yankee fans by winning with pitching & timely hitting. Last year untimely hitting cost many games IMO.

    The Yankees have a solid pitching staff top to bottom. That will keep them in contention. They can add people along the way as teams fall out of the playoff race. Perhaps a couple of youngsters will rise up as well. hopefully there is another Jeter, Cano, Posada or Bernie in that group. I hope so!

  21. RayVT December 14th, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    I don’t know why folks want to get rid of Granderson, especially now that Hamilton is no longer available. The Yanks need OF help & Granderson is a very good one & capable of even more than he did last year which was still better than most.

  22. UnKnown December 14th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    “The bottom line is tomorrow is not Opening Day”

    Cash’s go to quote.

  23. Duh Innings II December 14th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    austinmac December 14th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    At what point can we realistically be concerned about the Jays? Adding Dickey would be there for me, if they are not already a concern.

    This year’s team will likely not be a playoff team. Too many old players would have to stay healthy. That is not realistic. Then, the excuse will be injuries.

    Morse far before Hairston. Hairston would hit .240-.250 with little power. That is who he is. Morse might be pretty good.

    —————————————–

    The 2013 Yankees will not only be a postseason team, they will win the division and contend for the best record in the AL and MLB again. Boston and Toronto won 69 and 73 games, respectively, last year and their additions will not make them the 87-90 win teams they’ll need to be to win the wildcard slots. I think Baltimore is a fluke because history called they sucked 1998-2011 shows it, besides that they did nothing this offseason save lose Mark Reynolds to Cleveland. No way Tampa Bay is winning a wildcard slot after they traded their #2 starter Shields. They couldn’t win a wildcard slot with Shields, Davis, and Cy Young Award-winning Price, so how are they winning a wildcard slot or the division without Shields or Davis or all likelihood Price being as good as or better than he was in 2012?

    The Yanks re-signed hands-down the best free-agent pitchers in terms of overall accomplishment and quality in Rivera, Kuroda, and Pettitte (yeah I’ll take Kuroda or Pettitte in Game 7 of the 2013 World Series ove Grienke any day of the week – Grienke is a one-year wonder who never posted an ERA below 3.47 save in his best season.)

    The Yanks have the best rotation, bullpen, and overall offense even without Swisher in the division. Don’t forget Teixiera posted 15 less HR and 27 less RBI in 2012 (24 HR and 84 RBI) and Cano drove in only 94 runs, so I think those two could make up for some of the loss of Swisher’s HR and RBI with better seasons. I don’t like that the Yanks gave Youkilis $12M but he is capable of having a 2013 equal to or better than 2012 A-Rod. Ichiro will definitely be a defensive upgrade over Swisher and could be an upgrade BA and OBP-wise. I would be thrilled with .280 BA and .350 OBP from him – he doesn’t even have to be prime Ichiro good although that would be nice : )

    Who says the Yanks couldn’t get a bat, a starter, a reliever, any two, or all three via midseason trade? This offseason isn’t over yet. You might very well see a blockbuster trade go down before Opening Day. I have a sense it could happen and when it does it will be huge.

  24. UpState December 14th, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Was Ty Wiggington that much of a worse choice than Youkilis ?

  25. theREALkevin December 14th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    I don’t like the direction the Yankees are heading in. There needs to be a more concerted effort to get younger and build from within. Passing on guys like Darvish also really hurts. I don’t think they have all the right people heading up their drafts either. An ancient team will be even older this season, and it will generally be a boring group to watch. They were very fortunate to make it past the first round this past season and there’s absolutely no reason to think they will be better in 2013.

  26. jacksquat December 14th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    re: Dickey

    D’Arnaud is very much in play in the talks, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The deal would be bigger, however, with multiple pieces going both ways.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#LH5wrLL1EVUj8t0M.99

    Mets would do well to get D’Arnaud, as long as they don’t screw up the rest of the trade.

    And the Blue Jays getting Dickey makes them definite contenders.

  27. Jerkface December 15th, 2012 at 1:36 am

    ?@JeffPassan

    Source: Mets and Blue Jays on the verge of deal that would send R.A. Dickey to Toronto, Travis D’Arnaud to Mets. Teams looking at medicals.

  28. 4 NYY December 15th, 2012 at 1:41 am

    Anyone that thinks the Yanks are better than last year, with what we have now, (including Ichiro ) is fooling themselves.

    Baltimore will be just as tough or even better and Blue Jays are much better. Tampa still good.

    Cash couldn’t spend and as of now we’re DEFINITELY not improved. IMO

  29. Nick in SF December 15th, 2012 at 2:30 am

    The Yankees don’t necessarily have to look better on paper to go as far or even farther than they did last season.

    True story.

  30. 4 NYY December 15th, 2012 at 2:50 am

    So was mine !

  31. Nick in SF December 15th, 2012 at 2:57 am

    All the stories can be true before they play the games.

  32. Ben R December 15th, 2012 at 3:37 am

    Hey All,

    I’ve been reading this blog now for 3 years, always had the urge to comment but never got around to registering.

    I feel different this off season, especially with the general feeling of dread among the Yankee people around me (not so much around LoHud, you are all extremely smart and rational)

    But looking at the moves by the Dodgers and Angels gives me quite a bit of comfort. Specifically the Dodgers. Most of you already know all of this, but I just needed to write it all down for my own sanity to try and figure out what the hell they are thinking out there in LA….

    For the amount of money their payroll is expected to be in 2013 ($214 million, first time the Yankees won’t have the highest payroll since 1998….**room erupts in applause**)

    Let’s take a hard look at the core of their lineup…

    1. Matt Kemp, a guy that has literally had 1 GREAT season. Lest us not forget last year when he predicted on live TV that he would hit 50 home runs and steal 50 bases…despite an injury he played most of the season and hit 23 hrs and stole 9 bases. $21 million a year until 2020.

    2. Hanley Ramirez, quite possibly one of the most rapid fall offs of any player in recent history. In 2009 (the magical year he was on my fantasy team), he hit .342 24 hr 106 rbis…as a shortstop, .954 OPS. With the Dodgers, 2012 was a “bounce back” year for Mr. Ramirez with a .759 OPS (Let us not forget that our good friend Alex easily had the worst year of his career and still managed a .789). $16 million a year for the next 2 years.

    3. Carl Crawford….Did I say Hanley is in the midst of a rapid fall off? I must have meant Carl…I don’t need to review any statistics with you guys. $20 million a year until 2018.

    4. Adrian Gonzalez. I don’t know how this guy has gotten lost in the mix. We all know about his cliff-drop, which in the company of others doesn’t seem that bad, but come on…

    2011 avg 338 hr 27 runs 108 obp 410 ops 957
    2012 avg 299 hr 18 runs 75 obp 343 ops 806

    Those numbers to me are scary. The dodgers are paying him $21 mill a year till 2019.

    That’s like 3 A Rod contracts + Hanley Ramirez! Sheesh!

    Did I forget to mention that the Dodgers just signed a $150 million dollar contract with Zack Greinke, a guy that has never played a full year in a major city, and purposely playing in Kansas City and Milwaukee because of his emotional issues? Maybe the year in Anaheim helped him adjust but Orange County is no LA proper.

    All of this for me just puts into perspective that I am not actually that upset at the Yankees for signing all these one year deals this off season. For how high their payroll is, the Yankees have no one signed past 2016 besides A-Rod, and once he’s gone in 2017, they will hopefully never make these mistakes again. As much as I love watching the Yankees win, I can’t wait to see this Cano situation resolved a year from now.

  33. Ben R December 15th, 2012 at 3:43 am

    PS Obviously the Blue Jays are another team going through a major make over this off season, but to me all of the moves (including the Dickey deal going down tonight) seem smart… Remind me of recent Tiger moves, and I am looking forward to seeing yet another force to be reckoned with in the AL East…Hopefully it will only make the Yanks tougher.

  34. jacksquat December 15th, 2012 at 4:10 am

    Orioles haven’t done anything except lose Reynolds, have they? They aren’t improved, and they were pretty lucky in one run games last year. No one has that record in one run games just because of a good bullpen.

    The Rays lost their #2 starter and a good reliever. Their rotation is still good, but their success is going to somewhat depend on young guys and the back end, which isn’t a sure thing. Have they improved their offense?

    The Jays improved a lot, but 22 games?

    The Red Sox are still the last place team unless they improve their rotation.

  35. blake December 15th, 2012 at 6:25 am

    If the mets can get D’Arnard for Dickey then that’s very good for the mets…..

  36. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 6:41 am

    blake December 15th, 2012 at 6:25 am
    If the mets can get D’Arnard for Dickey then that’s very good for the mets…..
    ————–

    Good morning Blake. I don’t know much about the kid. I see that he OPSed over .900 the past two seasons and that he’s 24. Ready for the show?

    They’d definitely need to receive a franchise type player to move a fan favorite like Dickey.

  37. blake December 15th, 2012 at 6:47 am

    Kev,

    He was in the Halladay trade from Philly and really broke out last year…..best catching prospect in baseball by most accounts….Id be pretty surprised if the mets traded him for Dickey unless the Mets kicked in quite a bit more

  38. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 6:50 am

    Blake-

    This D’Arnaud guy has been passed around alot from what I can recall.

    I believe he started in the Seattle system. Went to Philly, and on to the Jays.

    Now he might go to the Mets ?

    Still hasn’t played a single game in the Bigs yet in all that travelling so I wonder how good he really is.

    Why would he be being moved from team to team like a hot potato if he was the goods ?

  39. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 6:55 am

    Squat-

    The Jays don’t have to pick up 20 some odd games because they do not have to be the Division winners.

    All they need do is take more games from the Yankees which they definitely will IMO. Their team is stronger, and that’s the bottom line.

    If the Yankees want to stay at the head of the class they can’t afford to run in place IMO. And they have.

    They may have even regressed on the O side.

    I was really hoping that they would pull off a major trade in an area of need but so far I’m just left dreaming on it only.

    ;)

  40. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 6:57 am

    And by the way, Good Morning all.

    :)

  41. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 7:00 am

    Blake-

    You are oh so right.

    2014 is a complete mystery even if the Yankees are fortunate enough to compete this year.

  42. austinmac December 15th, 2012 at 7:04 am

    Good morning, morning people.

    I don’t see how we can conclude anything other than the offense will be worse this year. It will decline at catcher and in RF. Jeter will likely not be as good. It will be positive if Youkilis matches AROD’s stats from last year.

    The all in one more year team is quite old and injury prone. Is this, seriously, the oldest team in the history of baseball?

  43. blake December 15th, 2012 at 7:10 am

    “This D’Arnaud guy has been passed around alot from what I can recall.”

    He was real young though when he was traded before….he’s a stud now that’s close to the bigs

  44. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 7:12 am

    Good morning MTU,

    The Jays could jump up 20 games. They had a lot of injuries last season that derailed them, the team did underperform. Now they’re vastly improved, and if they acquire Dickey…

  45. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 7:15 am

    austinmac December 15th, 2012 at 7:04 am
    Good morning, morning people.

    I don’t see how we can conclude anything other than the offense will be worse this year. It will decline at catcher and in RF. Jeter will likely not be as good. It will be positive if Youkilis matches AROD’s stats from last year.

    The all in one more year team is quite old and injury prone. Is this, seriously, the oldest team in the history of baseball?
    —————

    On paper, yes, the offense is no better (and adjusting for age inflation), probably worse. However, we all know, things don’t always go along with the paper projections. It’s quite possible Tex and A-Rod turn things around this season, other guys contribute, Robbie has a big walk year, and we have maybe a revelation or two. It could happen, who knows.

    I doubt it’s the oldest team in history, although I guess it could be possible. In past decades, didn’t older players hang around longer? Perhaps they have the oldest “AGE+” relative to the league…

  46. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 7:21 am

    Blake-

    I’ll take your word for it on D’Arnaud but let’s just remember he still hasn’t played a single ML yet.

    Kev-

    My main point is that our competition has gotten a lot stronger.

    Exactly how much stronger is open to debate.

    If the Yankees want to be King of the Hill IMO they cannot simply mark time.

    I do understand that we are in transition and that the Team may be sold down the road so there’s that.

    ;)

  47. blake December 15th, 2012 at 7:21 am

    “It’s quite possible Tex and A-Rod turn things around this season”

    Anything is possible…..but but of those guys OPS has decreased each of the past 5 years and Arod will miss at least half the season if not not…..anything is possible but they shouldn’t count on it

  48. blake December 15th, 2012 at 7:23 am

    “My main point is that our competition has gotten a lot stronger.”

    Yup… All 5 teams should be competitive

  49. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 7:24 am

    Yeah, I don’t think they are positioned to be King of the Hill. That’s the whole marketing thing, that they play to win every single season, when most fans know that this isn’t the case this season.

    At the same time, I think they will compete and I think that winning the off season matters not. How many totally inaccurate World Series predictions do we see every opening day?

    The last consensus team to win the World Series was…the ’09 Yankees.

  50. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 7:29 am

    I definitely wouldn’t count on Tex or A-Rod having big years, even though that’s what they’re paid for. No, the Yankees should be trying to create runs by other means as well. That’s obvious.

    But hey, who saw Barry Zito FINALLY doing something? ;)

  51. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 7:38 am

    RayVT December 14th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
    I don’t know why folks want to get rid of Granderson, especially now that Hamilton is no longer available. The Yanks need OF help & Granderson is a very good one & capable of even more than he did last year which was still better than most.
    ———–

    Yeah, it’s short term value versus mid or long term value. If they can get something that we be useful over the years, then I’d pull the trigger and trade him. If not, hold him and and aim to compete for the Championship. I’m guessing that’s Cashman’s outlook.

  52. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 7:43 am

    OK, if there’s a random minor leaguer traded this offseason, who’s it going to be?

    I’ll just toss David Adams out there. Seems like a Cashman thing to do. ;)

  53. Trigeminal Neuralgia Yank December 15th, 2012 at 7:43 am

    Ben R,
    Good breakdown , agree the Dodgers are all bark no bite.

  54. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 7:45 am

    Kev-

    Agree. Paper tiger means litttle.

    But the Yankees do have holes.

    How serious they prove to be reamins to be seen.

    And all the teams in the Division have strengthened themselves to varying degrees IMO.

    There are no weak sauce teams in the AL East for the Yankees to beat up on right now.

    ;)

  55. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 7:50 am

    If only we had a starting catcher. It’s time to see what Romine is made of.

  56. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Of the LA teams I think the Dodgers are better than the Angels are….they just have less holes.

    The Angels have 4 really great players (Pujols, Trout, Hamilton, and Weaver)…..then a lot of mediocrity …especially on the pitching side of things.

    They need another quality starter bad….

  57. ron December 15th, 2012 at 8:04 am

    D’Arnaud hits for avg,power,is good defensively,and crushed the ball in AA,and AAA.
    He is a much safer gamble than a far away prospect because he did well in AA,AAA.

    If done right,you can turn a team around in a few short years,but i think the yankees messed up.
    You do not downgrade on c,rf while keeping the same older team without turning the roster over a little.
    We should of traded arod when we had the chance,cano has a few great years in him,but anything past 5 year,and we will have another arod contract,and we see how that isworking out.
    The rs were smart by realizing their mistake,and unloading the whole mess to the dodgers who are going to be a mess of a team with a 300 million payroll.
    They got a lot of prospects,and signed free agents,without trading their own prospects.

  58. ron December 15th, 2012 at 8:06 am

    The rs got a lot of prospects that is.

  59. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:06 am

    RadioKev says:
    December 15, 2012 at 7:50 am
    If only we had a starting catcher. It’s time to see what Romine is made of.

    I think they should sign AjP to a one year deal and pair him with Romine….then hope Romine can take the controls next year…

    With his injury history I don’t think they can just turn the reigns over to him full time….and Stewie and Cervelli aren’t very good.

    Cash needs to sign AJ or trade for a catcher

  60. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    The Yanks need to treat 2013 like its the closing of a window…..because it most likely is….and they need to go for it IMO.

    With payroll coming down and with so many players on one year deals and aging, the time is now for this group

  61. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    I’m looking forward to 2015 when many of our top prospects should hit the ground running and we have money to spend again.

    Until then it’s hold on tight and batten down the hatches.

    It’s not the destination. It’s the journey.

    Right ?

    :)

  62. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Blake-

    “Lost” tweeted that Cash wanted your Boy but was turned down flat by Scrooge.

    :(

  63. austinmac December 15th, 2012 at 8:14 am

    You are right the key to me is the regular season journey. If my team can win enough to make six months of fun baseball, I am satisfied. Winning in the playoffs is great, of course, but just make the season fun.

    I remember years when they are out of contention in June. That stinks.

  64. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Blake,

    AJ Pierzynski will require more than a 1 year deal. At least two, I imagine. I think it wouldn’t be a bad sign. Even if he does decline, he’s still got more starting upside than the rest of the guys we have, and it does give us the ability to work Romine in.

  65. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Reporter: Are you concerned about the age risk on the roster ?

    Cashman:

    “I’d say you’re always concerned about it, but I’m not concerned about it when you look at the alternatives. The alternative is, ‘Hey, I could get a younger player that just isn’t very good.’ You could run him out there for 162. It wouldn’t hurt, but he wouldn’t help you.”

    But Cash, you left an alternative out my Man.

    How bout if you could get a young guy who was not only young but was good ?

    Isn’t that a possibility ? Maybe not in the current alternate Universe.

    You set up a “Straw Man” there Brian.

    ;)

  66. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    “Lost” tweeted that Cash wanted your Boy but was turned down flat by Scrooge.”

    Wouldn’t surprise me….Cash isn’t dumb…he knows the deal with this team but he’s just trying to be a good company man

  67. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:21 am

    “AJ Pierzynski will require more than a 1 year deal. At least two, I imagine”

    Maybe….I think if they made an aggressive 1 year offer then be might take it….I dunno….they need a catcher

  68. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 8:24 am

    Eh, the catching market is very tight now. I imagine AJ will have the choice to take two, unless the Yanks blow him away with one. Doesn’t matter. They’ll still need an actual starting catcher this year and next. Gotta have someone behind the plate, and you gotta salary someone.

  69. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:24 am

    The most puzzling move for me this winter is Youkalis….and not so much that they signed him but the amount of money they have him and they they are apparently counting on him to play 3b every day.

    Now had they signed him to be the DH and play 3b and 1b some then ok…..and also signed a good glove for 3b then fine…..

    But the left side infield defense for this club is now very worrisome with Jeter coming off ankle surgery and Youk being diminished…..

    I just don’t get why they invested so much there and have ignored the catcher position….maybe Cash has a buster Posey trade up his sleeve ;)

  70. Cashmoney December 15th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    ‘Hey, I could get a younger player that just isn’t very good.’ You could run him out there for 162. It wouldn’t hurt, but he wouldn’t help you.
    ——
    then get AJP…

  71. ron December 15th, 2012 at 8:26 am

    If williams,austin,sanchez,heathcott,adams,joseph can do well in AA,AAA,we can really have a nice new core.
    Adams needs just one good year in AA,and or AAA,even a half year will do.
    I just think we could of fixed a ton of things this year by trading cano,granderson,maybe hughes,and signed jh,and melky.
    We would be loaded in high end,almost ready prospects,combined with our own prospects,while still competing.
    I am just stunned that the yankees can’t see this.

    I’d much rather have jh,melky,with the prospects we got from trading cano,granderson,maybe hughes,than what we are facing now,and in 2014.
    We are going to need tons of players in 2014,and signing a real good fa will only be more expensive,while jeter,pettitte,kuroda,mo,and even ichiro will not be options,so we are going to have to say goodbye to them because we can’t have a 40 year old jeter playing ss,45 year old closer,and so on.
    It is going to be a very tough transition,and we should of been more proactive,instead of reactive.

  72. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:26 am

    I agree….they probably will need a catcher next year also.

    If they could work out a deal with AJ for 2 years where he and Romine would share time and the money made sense for the budget then Id consider that.

    They can’t go into 2013 with what they have currently behind the plate and expect to win

  73. Yankee Trader December 15th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    Good morning-

    Toronto vs NYY starting position players:

    Tex vs Encarnacion
    Cano vs Bonifacio
    Jeter vs Reyes
    Youkilis vs Lawrie
    Ichiro vs Bautista
    Granderson vs Rasmus
    Gardner vs Cabrera
    DH vs Lind

    Position by position which overall lineup would you want right now?

  74. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    The Yanks could use a player with an edge like AJP IMO…..they haven’t become soft but I do think a lot of the players have become comfortable and he’s the type guy that will get in guys faces a bit and motivate.

    You rarely hear teammates of his dislike him….only opposing players….he’s a pest and a competitor….so what…maybe that’d be helpful to this bunch

  75. Cashmoney December 15th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    we will see if the Yankees will address the catching situation blake, AJP is still on the market. There are few other not so desirable candidate but likely still outshine the crop they have now. season doesn’t start tom, but he sure should like a man who can’t wait for Jan to do some dumpster diving.

  76. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    “Position by position which overall lineup would you want right now?”

    Toronto easily

  77. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 8:32 am

    YT, Good morning. I’ll play!

    Tex.
    Cano.
    Jeter.
    Lawrie (for the upside, but there’s a chance he produces about the same as Youk)
    Bautista (of course)
    Granderson
    Toss up. I’ll be a homer and pick Gardner.
    Lind?
    Arencibia?

  78. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:32 am

    I bet Cashman has been trying to trade for Carlos Santana ….which would be awesome but also may cost so much it’s counterproductive.

    Sign AJP….keep the prospects as if you’re gonna make a big trade then to after Upton or somebody.

    Otherwise focus on trying to get mike Olt and solve 3B long term.

  79. ron December 15th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Hamilton will be younger than our rf,3b,ss,mo,pettitte,kuroda when his 5 year contract is up.
    Melky was a bargain,and a contact hitter.
    They both would cost 33 million.
    In 2013 cano,and granderson will cost 28 million,but if we keep both in 2014,they will cost 40-45 million.
    Also,when trading a montero,we needed a permanent fix for 3b,or an outfielder.
    You don’t risk him for a young pitcher with a half year good track record,with red flags.
    You at least have to get a more established 26-28 year old pitcher,with zero red flags.

    So many blunders.

  80. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    The Yankees can do all sorts of thing just as long as it doesn’t involve more than 1 yr. or too much money.

    Oops. Sorry. Maybe that what it takes.

    Or maybe they could trade ?

    But that means giving up multiple prospects.

    Oops. Wrong again. We’re not doing that.

    I can’t do much of anything can I ?

    I’m retiring from my “pretend” GM position. My hands are tied.

    :(

  81. blake December 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    @JonHeymanCBS: word is, there is agreement on players in dickey trade with #jays. @MartinoNYDN suggests medicals being reviewed.

    Traded posted the lineups….which rotation would you rather have?

    Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettite, Hughes, Nova/Phelps
    Johnson, dickey, Romero, Morrow, Buerle

    The Jays are gonna be good….folks been saying it forever but they just have too much talent now not to contend

    AA sees an opening to strike with the Yanks pinching pennies and Boston down and he’s going for it

  82. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Ron,

    The Melky situation is what it is. The organization does not want him. We’ll have to see how it plays out.

    Hamilton’s streaky and he’s had various health problems throughout the years. We’ll see how many games his on the field for, throughout the life of his contract.

    They’re not likely to keep Granderson in 2014. If they do, he’ll be taking a discount.

    And Montero just ain’t worth the finger energy anymore.

  83. Cashmoney December 15th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    AL East really has a few good GMs at the helm. I mean no one can top Cash but the others are pretty good.

  84. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    Blake-

    I said it earlier.

    There not gonna be any easy teams for the Yankees to beat up on in the AL East this coming season.

    Period.

  85. Yankee Trader December 15th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    They can’t go into 2013 with what they have currently behind the plate and expect to win.
    —————————————-

    If the Yankees are expecting Stewart and Cervelli to provide good defense behind the plate, then they better have a trade for another catcher.

    Cervelli was sent down becuse he can’t frame pitches-too fidgety doing the hokey-pokey behind home plate and Stewart had 8 passed balls in limited duty last season.

    I can’t think that Sabathia, Pettitte and Kuroda are all too thrilled with the current catching situation.

  86. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettite, Hughes, Nova/Phelps
    Johnson, dickey, Romero, Morrow, Buerle
    ————

    That’s tough. Sabathia or Dickey? Probably Sabathia, but hard to say.

    Johnson or Kuroda? I’ll go with KURODA.

    Pettitte or Buehrle? Pettitte.

    Morrow or Hughes? Morrow.

    Romero or Nova/Phelps? Who knows?

  87. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Trader-

    Sudden death competition in ST between Dreamy eyes, Romaine lettuce, and the Scotsman.

    3 Men enter the Ring but only 2 can leave.

    :)

  88. austinmac December 15th, 2012 at 8:43 am

    Toronto’s line up is far better. If they add Dickey and get some health, their pitching is likely better. We do have risk in everyone of our starting pitchers as well either from age, elbow surgery or inconsistency.

    This is the Yankees try one more time team, and it still has many weaknesses. I hope they are still trying, but I think the sole further move will be a crummy RH outfielder.

    I sure wish I would be proven wrong.

  89. ron December 15th, 2012 at 8:44 am

    I think romine,and cervelli are fine til sanchez is ready.
    Sanchez could be our next big offensive catcher that gives us a nice positional scarce advantage once again.
    I think between austin,williams,heathcott,and the other one i forget,flores??,we won’t have an outfield problem.
    It is 3b,ss,and pitching that i am concerned about.

    Another thing that concerns me is,ichiro,jeter,youk will dh a lot in 2013,and that is scary.
    We can really be hurting at the dh position in 2013.
    Little production.

  90. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Mac-

    “I sure wish I would be proven wrong.”

    You’re typing has improved………

    :)

  91. austinmac December 15th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    The Yankees are likely not looking for a long term 3B solution this year. They have Youkilis, and never, ever think that far ahead.

  92. Cashmoney December 15th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    I think lawrie will blossom soon… like him at 2b then 3b. He will be the premiere 2b in the east along with Pedy gamer once we trade Cano. Wasn’t Bonafacio a third baseman?

  93. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    I sure wish I would be proven wrong.
    ———

    Sure. The Yankees starting rotation is probably better. The Yankees bullpen is better. The Jays line up is better mostly because they have all their positions filled with at least average guys.

  94. austinmac December 15th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    MTU,

    I had my coffee. Now, I will bring Cashman some.

    Is the Scotsman me? I’m not much of a catcher.

  95. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Dogfight in the AL East ?

    Free-for-all ?

    As long as the Sux stay in cellar who cares, right ?

    ;)

  96. Yankee Trader December 15th, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Kev-

    Pick which teams lineup you want-either Jays or Yankees.

    I feel the Jays have a stronger lineup-wouldn’t want to face the speed of Reyes and Bonifacio with our catching situation or the core of the lineup facing Lawrie, Encarnacion and Bautista.

    Blake-

    I think the starting pitching might be even but if you asked me which pitchers I’d want going forward I want Johnson, Sabathia, Morrow, so I feel potentially the Jays have a better starting staff for 2014.

  97. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    Mac-

    Would that it would be you.

    But no Laddie. It is Stuhwart.

    :)

  98. austinmac December 15th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    I think Bobby Wilson may be as good or better than Stewart, and perhaps, considering defense, better than Cervelli. It is wide open. Wide open usually is not a good thing. It is like a QB controversy which usually means you have no QB.

  99. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Mac-

    Wearing only a Kilt behind home plate ?

    Man. I know you’re tough.

    But really ?

    Ouch.

    :(

  100. 86w183 December 15th, 2012 at 8:55 am

    I don’t understand why some think the Yankees have no plan for 2014. It’s pretty clear exactly what the plan is.

    They are treating 2013 as a “treading water” season by keeping the team competitive and the payroll relatively flat with a huge collection of expiring contracts.

    They will totally rebuild the roster in 2014, hoping that a significant number of spots will be taken by their best prospects being ready for prime time.

    For it to work, at least half the following players need to play key roles next year:

    Austin, Mesa, Williams, Flores, Adams, Joseph, Sanchez, Romine, Heathcott, Pineda, Montgomery, Marshall, Warren and Nuno. Maybe an Almonte…. and I’m sure I left a couple out.

    the 2014 Yankees will be a strange mix of veteran newcomers (they’ll have $$$ to spend), aging incumbents and kids. Not sure how it will come together, but it should be interesting.

  101. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 8:55 am

    Interesting way to give signals though.

    :)

  102. Yankee Trader December 15th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    Cash-

    Attached Bonifacio’s positions played since he was brought up to majors in 2007. Looks like he started playing 3rd in 2009.

    http://www.baseball-reference......em01.shtml

  103. Cashmoney December 15th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    For it to work, at least half the following players need to play key roles next year:
    ——–
    i am thinking 15 and I would not count on it really.

  104. Yankee Trader December 15th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    If they plan on using minor leaguers in 2014, then they better fast track their best AA and A players and get them ready.

  105. austinmac December 15th, 2012 at 8:59 am

    MTU,

    I know you are saving me for RF. Here are my qualifications. I am very similar to Maris. In 1961, we both wore no.9. We both hit left handed. We both played right field. We have the same birthday.

    When do I report for spring training. It must be fate.

  106. Yankee Trader December 15th, 2012 at 8:59 am

    New Post——————>

  107. blake December 15th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    “They are treating 2013 as a “treading water” season by keeping the team competitive and the payroll relatively flat with a huge collection of expiring contracts.

    They will totally rebuild the roster in 2014, hoping that a significant number of spots will be taken by their best prospects being ready for prime time.”

    That’s a very unpredictable plan….it’s a plan that teams like the Royals had to do because of finances

  108. Cashmoney December 15th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    don’t really matter that much YT, but i think lawrie could be a premiere 2b. but the sum production would still be the same.

  109. RadioKev December 15th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    I’d still rather have Jeter than Reyes, and Reyes is the bigger injury risk. Encarnacion is coming off a very good season, but it’s definitely a career year. Outside his norm. Tex is still the safer bet to producer better.

    Lawrie obviously has the superstar potential, but it’s just that right now. Last year was a bit of a flop. I’d certainly rather have him than Youkilis, but he’s not for certain.

    And I’d take Kuroda before I take Johnson. Kuroda is the model of consistency. Johnson? Uh… not so much.

  110. The Return of Stoneburner December 15th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    That is some injury risk with the Jays rotation – something they are not unfamiliar with. Johnson and Morrow have had injury concerns. Does Romero bounce back? Dickey while great last year is still an unconventional knuckle ball guy that cannot just pitch and pitch and not have his arm fall off – Buehrle well – enough said there – - – -on paper it is nice – but the Jays have had some nice on paper in the past and seem to get bit by the injury bug – we shall see – that’s why they play the games – - – -

  111. austinmac December 15th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    The only way for 2014 to work is many rookies. Williams will start at Tampa. So will Sanchez. Most have no shot at being ready in 2014.

    I agree if this is their plan, they better push them. But, they are always very cautious about that. That must change.

  112. randy l. December 15th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    the yankees could win 95 again in 2013.

    but if they do, they won’y have hughes and granderson n 2014 and that’s when the real potential fall off happens.

    the yankees will need big years out of granderson and hughes to win 95. if they do well they’ll get huge free agent money.

    if they don’t do well in 2013, the yankees have a chance to sign them, but 2013 will have been the bad year.

    the yankees simply don’t have the number of potential star players that they once had. guys like hughes and granderson are no longer pluses if they come through but rather essentials.

    the yankees are also weaker in the bullpen without soriano. there is no telling how good or how many games mariano will be available for.

    old guys can be good, but not everyday. the yankees should try to get a rule passed that for every 40 year old a team has on the roster they can add another 40 year old extra.

    40 year olds should play a third to half as much depending on their positions. they will get overuse injuries faster and the injuries will take longer to heal.

    injuries will be a major theme of this team.it’s ideal for ichiro to be in a platoon. jeter should be in one too.obviously alex when he comes back.

    mariano should not pitch a whole season.

    so 95 wins?
    that’s a big roll of the dice. a lot of good things have to happen.

    probably a 25% chance of that happening. could happen. kind of like nate silver’s presidential odds.
    95wins or more could happen, but only once about every four times this scenario is run out there.

  113. MTU December 15th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    Mac-

    You’re a Rock Star. Report when you wish.

    It’s what all the great ones do.

    I’m taking the Time Machine and I’ll meet you in 2015.

    Let’s meet up and have a pint of Guiness.

    :)


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