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Indians reportedly making a push for Swisher

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 17, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Michael Bourn’s market is still unclear, and instead it’s Nick Swisher who seems to have become the most desirable player still on the free agent market. He’s the best middle-of-the-order bat out there, and plenty of teams could still use an impact hitter.

Swisher has been linked to the Rangers, Phillies, Mariners, Red Sox and Orioles, but it’s the Indians who are reportedly meeting with him tonight. Why does that matter to the Yankees? Mostly because of the alternatives.

1. By signing with the Indians, Swisher would go to a team that’s still trying to put all the pieces together. The Yankees wouldn’t have to face him nearly 20 times next season (like they would if he signed with the Orioles or Red Sox) and they probably wouldn’t have to worry about facing him in the  playoffs (like they might if he signed with the Rangers). In terms of impacting next season, the Yankees would probably prefer to see Swisher land in Cleveland, Seattle or Philadelphia.

2. By signing with the Indians, Swisher would go to one of only two rumored-to-be-interested teams that have protected draft picks. Under the new rules, the Top 10 picks are protected when signing a qualifying free agent, and both the Indians and Red Sox have Top 10 picks. The draft impact on the Yankees is minimal – the Yankees only get a supplemental pick in return, they don’t take over the signing team’s draft position — but there is a mild benefit to Swisher signing with a non-protected team. At the very least, if Swisher signed with a team that doesn’t have a protected pick, the Yankees would move up one spot in the first round. They’ve already moved up two spots because of the Braves (B.J. Upton) and Angels (Josh Hamilton) signing qualifying free agents.

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36 Responses to “Indians reportedly making a push for Swisher”

  1. Chip December 17th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Also by signing with the Indians Swisher won’t have to worry about his failure to produce in the offseason.

  2. Chip December 17th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Chip December 17th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Two trades I would like to see:

    Hughes to the Angels for Morales, Conger, Wells and almost all of Vernon’s remaining salary.

    Granderson, Gardner and Warren to the Rangers for David Murphy, Mike Olt

    Sign Mike Bourn

    Lineup:
    Bourn
    Jeter
    Cano
    Tex
    Morales
    Youk
    Murphy
    Conger
    Ichiro

  3. 86w183 December 17th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    I don’t think Swishie will be happy making lots of money on a crappy team, but we’ll see.

  4. Run it Out December 17th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Trumbo yes. Morales no.

  5. JWeav December 17th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Swisher is from Columbus and played for the Buckeyes. I think he would love to play for the Indians.

  6. blake December 17th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    blake says:
    December 17, 2012 at 3:01 pm
    Chip,

    You traded for Olt and aren’t even gonna play him? Morales is awful vs lefties and unless Bourn is a 1 year deal then you’re just putting more bad money on the books for a multi year deal with him.

  7. 86w183 December 17th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    You traded for Olt and aren’t even gonna play him? Morales is awful vs lefties and unless Bourn is a 1 year deal then you’re just putting more bad money on the books for a multi year deal with him.

    ***************************************************************************

    Give Gardner a chance to be Bourn for a lot less $$$. If someone wants to talk Granderson they should listen, but with Swisher and Martin already gone the Yanks don’t have power to spare.

  8. Ys Guy December 17th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    exactly. trading gardner and signing bourne is throwing money out the window.

    gardner is younger and has a higher obp and ops. ill stick with our guy working cheap and coming into his own.

  9. Chip December 17th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    with Pena signing in Houston any interest in bringing back Fat Elvis to dh?

  10. Ys Guy December 17th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    does pena have anything to do with who they sign as dh? berkman has played 302 games the past 3 seasons, that’s alot of missed games.

    has he been’working out’ or is he looking like the last time he was a yankee (fat, old, slow, done)

  11. The Return of Stoneburner December 17th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    AndrewMarchand People have asked: Told nothing doing on Bourn or Soriano with Yanks. 7 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    AndrewMarchand Yanks still think they have a match with Ibanez, but nothing there yet.

  12. RadioKev December 17th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    86w183 December 17th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    I don’t think Swishie will be happy making lots of money on a crappy team, but we’ll see.
    ————-

    I think Swisher is a naturally happy guy.

    If the Yanks want to sign Bourn they should do so now before he’s the last significant OF FA.

  13. Patrick December 17th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    If the Yanks want to sign Bourn they should do so now before he’s the last significant OF FA.

    Only if he’s willing to accept a 1 year deal

  14. PhiltheThrill December 17th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    Supplemental picks can be pretty valuable when you have good scouts, like the Yanks do.

  15. SoS December 17th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Only if he’s willing to accept a 1 year deal

    =======

    The Bourn Ultimatum?
    This has got to be the worse Christmas I can remember. No shiny new toys under my tree. We usually get to open one up right before christmas. Ibanez, Ichiro, Youk? This is like the time I asked my parents as a kid I wanted to go to Chucke Cheese for my birthday and they tried to trick me by going to Shakeys instead.
    Or like a kid these days asking for an xbox but getting an atari instead.
    What did we do to get on the naughty list! Could I double up on the milk and cookies and finally get the presents us Yankees are entitled to?

  16. Patrick December 17th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    The Bourn Ultimatum?

    Nice :)

  17. blake December 17th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    I just don’t want “the Bourn Albatross”

  18. YES December 17th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Did you write, “the Yankees would not have to worry about facing him in the playoffs”????

    You WANT to face him in the playoffs.

  19. Patrick December 17th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Ouch. Good point YES

  20. SoS December 17th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Id rather have the bourn albotross than “Grumpier Old Men”. At least we can dump our Albotross to the Dodgers as soon as the batterie starts to run out.

  21. blake December 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    You guys know Swisher will kill the ball in the playoffs for another team….

  22. Jerkface December 17th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal

    #Athletics close on a new shortstop. It’s Hiroyuki Nakajima, sources tell me and @jonmorosi. Career .310 hitter with Seibu Lions in Japan.

    Long shot for the Yankees, but I posited they could have signed him as backup IF/potential 2B when Cano leaves/RH OFer.

  23. tucker December 17th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Maybe Cashman’s plan is to wait for the Napoli deal to fall through and pounce:

    “As for Napoli, a report by Will Carroll of Sports Illustrated indicates the Sox are trying to reduce the deal from three to two years to protect against the deterioration of a physical situation (believe to be a hip). So far, no resolution. The Red Sox have kept communication with Nick Swisher and Adam LaRoche should the deal fall through.”

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....tra_bases/

  24. blake December 17th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    @mlbtraderumors: Athletics, Nakajima Nearing Deal http://t.co/qeAoDqwD #mlb

  25. tucker December 17th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    If you were a free agent with any hint of a physical problem, would you sign with the Red Sox? It seems like they put their acquired players (free agent or trade) through the ringer and then try to renegotiate the terms when they find a hint of some physical issue.

  26. blake December 17th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: Nakajima and a’s agree

  27. blake December 17th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Who needs Nakajima when we have Youky

  28. Patrick December 17th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Who needs Nakajima when we have Youky

    Yucky

  29. Patrick December 17th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    God I love Old Hoss Radbourn’s commentary on the top 125 baseball players of all time.

    “#105: C. Schilling. Should be ranked higher solely on his ability to devastate the economy of an entire state.”

    I could basically quote every one, they are all hilarious

  30. blake December 17th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    Old hoss has to be Keith law

  31. Yankee Trader December 17th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    Forget Michael Bourn, unless you are getting 2012 first half Bourn. “Ultimately,” his second half was almost as bad as Granderson’s with tons of strikeouts.

  32. blake December 17th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    @susanslusser: It’s two years for Nakajima at $6.5 million, and a third year option. #Athletics

  33. blake December 17th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Maybe the Mets will let us borrow John Buck?

  34. Yankee Trader December 17th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    New Post——————>

  35. ajr91205 December 17th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    As much as I liked Swisher, I am glad that he is going. I feel like the Indians would be a great fit for him and I’m sure the Yankees could do better. Don’t get me wrong, Swisher still has a couple of years left in him, but it’s a smart move to not go after him. Swisher could have a big impact on a team that isn’t as deep as the Yankees, and maybe he would get more playing time wherever he goes.

  36. Duh Innings II December 18th, 2012 at 1:25 am

    Swisher would be an irrelevant ass who cares more about money than winning if he signed with Cleveland like Jeff “I Need A Guaranteed Job For Three Years” Keppinger is one for signing with the Chi-Sox who are also going nowhere.

    Swish just re-sign with the Yanks for two years at $13.3M (the qualifying offer they made to you for 2013 only) per year and be done with it. If you’re so good you should have no problem landing another two-year deal as a RF, DH, or RF/DH who could back up at 1B. Cross the bridge called 2015 when you get to it. The Yanks aren’t re-signing you for 2015-16 if you posted two more seasons like any two you had 2009-12? C’mon man.

    Take a cue from Paul O’Neill, a better all-around player than you were, are, or will be. He went from year to year with the Yanks when he could’ve easily asked for a multi-year contract for alot more money than he took to be a Yankee for life. He grabbed four World Series rings and almost had a full hand of WS rings doing what he did with his signings.

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