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Granderson expecting to hit the open market

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 18, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Curtis Granderson has hit 108 home runs in his three years with the Yankees. He’s been an all-star twice, led the league in RBI once and reached a new career high in strikeouts. In some ways, he’s been more than the Yankees could have hoped. In other ways, he’s been less.

Now, Granderson’s time with the Yankees seems to be coming to an end.

“It’s interesting to know that (free agency)’s coming,” Granderson told Ken Davidoff yesterday. “It’s amazing just to look back and where I’ve been, where I’m at right now, and know that time is approaching. I’m excited for it. It’s definitely going to be a challenge, something I’ve never had to deal with. But I’ll just get ready for it and accept all of the changes and challenges that come with it.”

Granderson is in the final year of his affordable contract, and he has no expectation of signing an extension. In his words, signing extensions “typically isn’t (the Yankees) M.O.” And so Granderson prepares for one more pinstriped season, knowing very well that it could be his last.

“I’m just excited to play this year,” he said. “And then, once we get to the end, we’ll take it at that point.”

Granderson talked to Davidoff in Staten Island, where Granderson was donating school supplies to kids affected by Hurricane Sandy. Over at MLB.com there’s a video of Granderson touring the affected areas and giving away backpacks.

“I remember back-to-school shopping with my parents, and that was one of the most exciting days of the year for me to get my school supplies and come in,” Granderson said. “And unfortunately, a lot of these kids lost some of that due to Hurricane Sandy, so the fact that we could come in and help pick right back up and get those kids back focused on school where they can have fun, be with their friends and learn about the things they enjoy, today was a great day for me.”

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288 Responses to “Granderson expecting to hit the open market”

  1. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    •Stark reports (on Twitter). The Marlins appear to prefer Mark Trumbo, though he’s the least likely to be traded. The Angels could also deal Peter Bourjos, Kendrys Morales or Vernon Wells.
    •The Dodgers now aim to find a reliever, preferably a lefty, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports (on Twitter).
    •The Dodgers could pursue free agent center fielder Michael Bourn if they trade Andre Ethier, Rosenthal writes.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#S2giZHi2WvFOBmiX.99

    ******

    No, no, no Mariners – you do not want the Angels OFers – you want to be in a bidding war with the Rangers for Granderson – Granderson – oh ^&^% it – my vodoo/hypnosis mantra is not workinng in the rumor world on this one – – – -Do what you want Mariners and Rangers (reverse jinx now in effect) – – – -

  2. Mike Ri December 18th, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    I wish he would hit the trade market !

  3. J. Alfred Prufrock December 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    austinmac December 18th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    I have no problem including Logan for any trade involving a bat. He could be a nice addition for someone but no centerpiece for anything valuuable.
    ///

    Didn’t we once trade a “4th OF” for him (and Javy?) :mad: Maybe we can reverse that 2010 mistake… doesn’t Toronto need BP arms? (outwardly joking/inwardly weeping).

  4. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    Granderson is a quality human being.

    Will be sorry to lose him.

  5. yankeefeminista December 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    re-post

    yankeefeminista December 18th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    Good afternoon!

    Paco, as per your question in the last thread, JR’s receiving skills are highly thought of. So, as per your question, Yanks are definitely not reassessing him as a catcher. His bat hasn’t been as good as expected, but he has been concentrating on his defensive duties, and in spite of the hit stats, he is a very good hitter, who almost always has good AB’s. Plus he is hitting in a pitcher’s park. What gets overlooked is his road stats, which are pretty darn good.
    ______
    If he doesn’t get traded first, curious to see if Grandy can improve on those infuriating K rates and stats vs. LHP. I would love a Flores type in our lineup, who actually hits for average… I’d love me a 2011 Grandy…

    That said, on the human side, Grandy has been nothing but a stand-up Yankee, and has done great things in the community. But… get something for him, while the getting it good.

  6. J. Alfred Prufrock December 18th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    MTU,

    He really is. I bet he’s destined to turn his sense of responsibility/community service into some kind of public service.

  7. Locke December 18th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    If this is Granderson’s last year as a Yankee I’ll be sad to see him go. He’s got a great attitude and obviously has a real passion about giving back to the community. I hope he ends up somewhere great.

  8. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    Say farwell to this very big, hairy Monster.

    Travel well Curtis.

  9. Against All Odds December 18th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    Granderson is a quality human being.

    Will be sorry to lose him.

    —————–

    I agree.

    Even with all his faults he’s a stand up guy.

  10. austinmac December 18th, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    But, another draft pick for him. The new plan is draft picks as players leave. By 2018, one of them might help. And I questioned whether they were thinking about the future.

  11. luis December 18th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Good afternoon guys,

    MTU,

    Maybe Cashman can work on a trade involving himself? :D he should bring a lot back!

    About Granderson… No doubt that he is an stand up guy and a very good ball player… But I think it’s time to move on from him. I would have traded him this winter.

    Primo,

    I like the way you think ;) That 4th outfielder would improve the team a lot. But he is not on the age bracket they are looking for. :D

  12. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    J Alfred/AAO-

    People can criticize Grandy as a ballplayer but I find little fault with his character.

    I think he would make a great baseball analyst/sportscaster.

    Not worried about his future.

    Mr. and Mrs. Granderson did an excellent job IMO.

    Sky is the limit for Curtis.

  13. J. Alfred Prufrock December 18th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Yankeefem – I think JR’s bat will rise again; he learned a lot in Trenton and probably wore down, as you suggest. Didn’t know about his road splits. I do know we saw a good young hitter in Lakewood, although he was a disaster behind the plate for that one day.
    ///

    There’s not much to say until the Yankees make some significant move. As it stands, they’re a good pitching team with a faded, hole-y lineup. People keep mentioning Mesa against LHP, but he’s got to show me he really has developed a clue against the breaking pitch. That’s the rumor, but I saw him a couple of times after the alleged transformation, and while he still demonstrates power, he still was baffled when they attacked him soft. His approach may be a little better, but I didn’t see a helluva lot of progress. Would that it were so – he does everything else so well.

  14. Mike_Boston December 18th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    Not knowing the stats was Granderson more effective in 2012 with the massive HR/K rates, 2011 with both of those numbers reduced but much better lefty splits (I believe) or 2010 before K-Long fixed his swing that August? I’m guessing 2011 would be best and 2010 the worst but I really would like some other folks take on this…

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock December 18th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Primo,

    I like the way you think ;) That 4th outfielder would improve the team a lot. But he is not on the age bracket they are looking for. :D
    ///

    Primo!

    Maybe we can sign him when he’s 40 ;).

    Btw, primo, wishing you & your family a wonderful, peaceful holiday season. (That goes for everybody here, of course!).

  16. Mike_Boston December 18th, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    I also want to echo the thoughts of what a great person he is off the field. Educated, eloquent and seems like a genuinely caring human being. Kudos to his parents, they did a fantastic job.

  17. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    Luis-

    Buenos tardes compadre.

    Cashman is currently a quepon. As you may know they have little value either to themselves or in trade.

    :)

  18. J. Alfred Prufrock December 18th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    I was almost hoping Grandy would get traded to Philadelphia. I believe that city has more deaths of young black men than anywhere in the country (I can’t swear to it, but I recall reading something like that).

    Any way, I’m on the run. Peace, folks.

  19. blake December 18th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Love Grandy….would be sad to see him go….but the Yanks have to start trying to get more value on the field out of their payroll

  20. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    “I’m on the run”

    Watch your back. Tommy Lee Jones might be gainin’ on ya’ Doc.

    Have a good one.

    :)

  21. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Those sunglasses make Curtis look like Will Smith in MIB3.

    :)

  22. austinmac December 18th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Curtis Granderson is a fine man and clearly MLB considers him one of their best representatives. He will be missed as a person and player.

  23. Warning Track Power December 18th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    I hope Granderson puts up amazing numbers in his walk year.

    Worst case scenario.
    Yankees are out of playoff contention in late July/early August, forcing the Yankees to trade
    Granderson to a contender.

    I would much rather prefer Granderson becoming one of the players that will be leading the
    Yankees to another WS title.

  24. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Am I allowed a sex joke today ?

  25. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Ah. What the heck ?

    You all know I’m crazy.

    If Granderson leaves does that mean it’s “Curtis Interruptus” ?

    :(

  26. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Some executives believe the Diamondbacks will trade Justin Upton even after GM Kevin Towers said a deal seems unlikely. There’s a perception that the Diamondbacks are down on Upton, Rosenthal notes.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#ZjoQKgj16xcqCl98.99

  27. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    the lohud’s favorite 3b prospect

    Now that many free agent third basemen have signed, the Marlins could pursue a top third base prospect who’s close to contributing at the MLB level. However, it would be difficult to put together a package for a player such as Mike Olt.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#ZjoQKgj16xcqCl98.99

  28. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Rangers officials aren’t overwhelmed by the remaining free agent position players available, Rosenthal reports. Texas has done background work on A.J. Pierzynski, and could work to sign him. However, Adam LaRoche, Nick Swisher and Michael Bourn seem like less likely targets.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#ZjoQKgj16xcqCl98.99

  29. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    SB-

    Ken needs to get a scoop instead of just repeating what we all already know.

    The owner there appears to be a loose canon.

    If I were Justin I would demand to be traded.

    I just happen to know a team who wants him.

    ;)

    P.S. call in that marker Brian.

  30. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    SB-

    Ken needs to get a scoop instead of just repeating what we all already know.

    The owner there appears to be a loose canon.

    If I were Justin I would demand to be traded.

    I just happen to know a team who wants him.

    P.S. call in that marker Brian.

    *****

    Upton is becoming the old NBA joke at the trade deadline – he has been traded in rumor land to every team that he winds up back with his original team that traded him – - – -feels like it given how long they have been entertaining offers for him – - – -

  31. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    If these were the only two options:

    Option A: Sign Bourn to a one year restablish his market kind of deal b/w 15-17 million for one year, trade Granderson for prospect(s)

    Option B: Keep Granderson and his 40+ HRs and then see where the market is a year from now, QO him, worst case you receive a supplemental draft pick

  32. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    SB-

    Yup. round and round she goes. Where she stops no one knows.

    Kinda makes your head spin.

    A talented player like JU should never have to be the butt of of an owner’s disrespect.

    Especially when it is in public, and likely not justified.

    When the remarks in question were made many immediately came to
    Upton’s defense.

    Few to the owners.

    Draw you own conclusion(s).

    ;)

  33. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Exhibit #2:

    And don’t forget he couldn’t wait to get rid of young Trevor Bauer because he was a little “odd”.

    He’s a kid. Ever hear of immaturity and growth Kendrick ?

    Loaded with talent and away he goes.

  34. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Exhibit #2:

    And don’t forget he couldn’t wait to get rid of young Trevor Bauer because he was a little “odd”.

    He’s a kid. Ever hear of immaturity and growth Kendrick ?

    Loaded with talent and away he goes.

    *****

    Yeah, the Bauer thing really suprised me – especially given his talent – great move for Cleveland – - –

  35. Against All Odds December 18th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    MTU December 18th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    J Alfred/AAO-

    People can criticize Grandy as a ballplayer but I find little fault with his character.

    I think he would make a great baseball analyst/sportscaster.

    Not worried about his future.

    Mr. and Mrs. Granderson did an excellent job IMO.

    Sky is the limit for Curtis.

    ———————-

    I can see him doing games for the Yankees or Tigers when he hangs it up which won’t be for 4-6 yrs from now.

  36. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    @MarcCarig

    “I just feel sad about it.” – Dickey, on grumbling about being a bad clubhouse guy.

  37. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    @DKnobler

    A’s, Mets announce trade. Collin Cowgill to Mets for Jefry Marte

  38. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    @Mets

    #Mets acquire outfielder Collin Cowgill from Oakland in exchange for minor league infielder Jefry Marte.

  39. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Shame-

    I went into the Taboo zone a little while ago.

    Rebrobate that I am I just couldn’t help myself.

    Did you see the pun ?

    :)

  40. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    sp: reprobate. duh

  41. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Option A

  42. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    JAP-

    Sky is the limit for a guy like Curtis.

  43. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    @jonmorosi: #BlueJays favored to win AL East by MLB scouts/execs. I agree. Here are my “now” picks for entire division: http://t.co/Y6MTFnJy @MLBONFOX

  44. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    @DKnobler

    If Jays decide Dickey knuckleball works better indoors, they can close roof for his starts. Decision in reg. season is up to home team.

  45. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    SB-

    “Yeah, the Bauer thing really suprised me – especially given his talent – great move for Cleveland – – –”

    A gift from an idiot.

    Where was Cashman ?

    Could always use another good young arm for the pipeline.

    ;)

  46. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
    Option A

    *****

    If the Rangers offered Robbie Ross and Gentry for Granderson? (with the idea that Newman whispers in your ear that Ross can be converted back into a starter in the minors http://www.milb.com/milb/stats.....pid=543726) – would you accept?

  47. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    Blake-

    Right now the Jays pen is probably their Achilles heel.

    Bet they fix it.

    ;)

  48. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    “If the Rangers offered Robbie Ross and Gentry for Granderson? (with the idea that Newman whispers in your ear that Ross can be converted back into a starter in the minors http://www.milb.com/milb/stats…..pid=543726) – would you accept?”

    Probably not

  49. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    SB-

    “Yeah, the Bauer thing really suprised me – especially given his talent – great move for Cleveland – – –”

    A gift from an idiot.

    Where was Cashman ?

    Could always use another good young arm for the pipeline.

    *****

    Yeah, I guess the Reds preferred Choo over Granderson – and I am not sure if Gardner is available and whether the Reds would want Gardner over Choo – - – -but I would have loved to have had Bauer in the pipeline – - – -

  50. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    “Bet they fix it.”

    I bet they sign Soriano …they are all in short term now and a solution to the back of their pen is right there for the taking

  51. ron December 18th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    It’s a shame that the yankees,the most powerfull team in baseball,will lose a player like granderson,and for a far away pick,when we should get a player like olt for him now.

  52. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    I’m sending Grandy to the Phils for Ruiz, and either Dom Brown and/or Joseph.

    Then I’m trading for JU.

    Like my plan ?

    :)

  53. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    The Yankees can’t trade Granderson unless they replace him first….of have a deal lined up to replace him.

  54. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    “MTU says:
    December 18, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    I’m sending Grandy to the Phils for Ruiz, and either Dom Brown and/or Joseph.

    Then I’m trading for JU.

    Like my plan ?”

    I love it….just don’t know if it’s possible

  55. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Blake-

    Me neither but you know I love to dream.

    ;)

  56. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    It’s a shame that the yankees,the most powerfull team in baseball,will lose a player like granderson,and for a far away pick,when we should get a player like olt for him now.

    *****

    JMO – I think the Rangers only move Olt for a pitcher or someone of Upton’s caliber – - – -

  57. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Dec 18 AL east power rankings

    1. Jays
    2. Yankees
    3. Rays
    4. Red Sox
    5. orioles (the magic will fade)

    I think currently the Yanks are about an 88-90 win team….and that’s either a WC or out of the playoffs all together….

    Cash still has time to change that

  58. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    MTU – Love it :D

    We’re going to sex up this blog if it’s the last thing we do!!

    Seriously.. it’s a much more entertaining taboo subject than things like politics or religion.

  59. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    I know the guy is in his late 20s – but the Ruff kid appears to be able to hit – - – -

  60. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    The reliever market hasn’t really shaped up yet..

  61. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Shame-

    I took a risk. Sometimes you have to do that.

    But everyone knows my elevator does not go to the top floor so they forgive me (I hope).

    :)

  62. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    If the Phillies think Joseph is close then they might would deal Ruiz for Grandy….but I doubt Cashman would deal Grandy for a guy out on drug suspension

  63. Jerkface December 18th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    I’d go after Dom Brown & Ruf.

  64. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Jerkface says:
    December 18, 2012 at 1:16 pm
    I’d go after Dom Brown & Ruf.

    Who replaces Grandy for 2013? I don’t think the Yanks will deal Granderson unless they have a player to step in to replace his production

  65. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    Who replaces Grandy for 2013? I don’t think the Yanks will deal Granderson unless they have a player to step in to replace his production

    ————–

    They haven’t replaced anyone else’s production that they’ve lost so why start with Grandy? ;)

  66. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    Blake-

    Greenies ?

    Ruiz is an excellent Catcher.

    Would be great for a yr. or 2.

    You’re probably right though.

    So let’s just go with AJ P. and JU instead.

    Grandy for Olt +

    Who are the Bravos willing to give us ?

    :)

  67. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    “Who are the Bravos willing to give us ?”

    Probably Delgado and maybe Franchisco or Ahmed

  68. Jerkface December 18th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Who replaces Grandy for 2013? I don’t think the Yanks will deal Granderson unless they have a player to step in to replace his production

    Ruf jumped from AA to the majors. I think a combination of him as RH OFer & Brown & Gardner cover lost production. At this point its going to be very difficult to replicate last years offense, which was already down, but I think you can get close. More importantly Brown & Ruf build for the future.

  69. Jerkface December 18th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    If you’re trying to replace Granderson’s production its impossible now. It makes him untradeable if that is what you’re after. Hamilton is gone. Bourn is not a replacement. Even Swisher is not.

    I’d trade for Brown & Ruf & sign AJP with the freed up money.

  70. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    I’m still interested in Gordon too.

    Plays OF as well as 3B.

    Let’s pry him loose from Moore.

    Get Gordon. Move Grandy.

    Hughes is not likely to remain a Yankee. Try an extension. If not trade him now in a package.

    ;)

  71. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    “I’d trade for Brown & Ruf & sign AJP with the freed up money”

    I don’t disagree…I just don’t think they’d do that.

    Maybe they should just trade all the prospects for J Upton then trade Granderson

  72. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    They ain’t trading Gordon now especially after they traded Myers

  73. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    Wonder if Granderson/Gardner + Nova/Hughes/Phelps + Williams/Heathcott/Austin would be enough or in the ballpark for J Upton

  74. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    Blake-

    Cashman should wheel and deal.

    Start the future now.

    :)

  75. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Wonder if Granderson/Gardner + Nova/Hughes/Phelps + Williams/Heathcott/Austin would be enough or in the ballpark for J Upton

    ******

    I am not sure they need OFers – they have Pollock and Eaton plus Kubel/Parra/Upton – it looks as if they need a 3b or pitching that they like – - – -jmo – - – -

  76. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Fine Blake.

    Then I’ll substitute Headley for Gordon.

    Is that allowed ?

    :)

  77. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    SB-

    Who knows our pitching better than Towers ?

    I mean other than Cashman.

    ;)

  78. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    “Then I’ll substitute Headley for Gordon.”

    Yea they say they aren’t trading him but Id guess he’s more abailble than Gordon now

  79. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    SB-

    Who knows our pitching better than Towers ?

    I mean other than Cashman.

    ****

    Yeah – but unfortunately when Towers was with the organizaiton in 2010 – Banuelos was still healthy and Betances started his comeback that blossomed in 2011 and then regressed in 2012 – - – -

  80. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Boy – lot of anger this morning for the Jets – - – -

  81. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Want some pitching :

    Hughes/Nova/Phelps

    Warren/Marshall

    Betances/Banuelos

    DePaula/Campos/Ramirez

    Pick.

    Who do you like Kevin ?

  82. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    I think some of our relievers are attractive – from Montgomery to Goody to Pinder – - – -

  83. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Towers loves him some relievers

  84. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    SB-

    The success rate on TJS is very high.

    Banuelos is still very young.

    His prospect status should remain high.

    He is very, very talented.

    If Towers was high on him before he should still have interest.

    Part of a package ?

    Let’s remember that.

  85. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Plus this guy – drafted in 2012 – and finishes already in Charleston

    http://www.baseball-reference......ack-002cor

  86. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    SB-

    The success rate on TJS is very high.

    Banuelos is still very young.

    His prospect status should remain high.

    He is very, very talented.

    If Towers was high on him before he should still have interest.

    Part of a package ?

    Let’s remember that.

    *****

    True – - – -

  87. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    You guys are right about that too.

    We have tons of quality relievers.

    Surely we can spare a few.

    And I mean ML guys as well.

    ;)

  88. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    There are very few guys who should be deemed untouchables IMO.

  89. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    MTU-

    Who did we deal for now? Don’t you think the Phillies or any other team would be more interested in Gardner for their OF. I would like Ruiz, amphetamines and all.

  90. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Granderson, Nova, Williams, Logan for Upton

  91. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Towers was instrumental in having Williams and Gumbs drafted – - – -

  92. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    And if anyone were tweaked after seeing Heathcott in the AFL he’d be gone in sixty seconds.

    Why ?

    Because his value is high right now and he is an accident waiting to happen IMO.

    A GGBG/Ellsbury type.

    Very good ballplayer maybe but injured half the time.

    Trade him if he brings ya’ something good back.

    Besides we have 3 other just like him, or similar.

    ;)

  93. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    YT-

    I’ll let you and Cashman come up with the who.

    The point is we should be open for buisness.

    Let it be known we are ready to wheel and deal.

    Maybe Cashman has but we see no signs so far.

    ;)

  94. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    You guys are coming around.

    Keep it coming.

    Call Cashman and tell him what you think.

    :)

  95. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    Cashman is busy begging Ibanez and Hairston to sign

  96. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    MTU-

    The Diamondbacks are pretty well set except for another starter and maybe another bullpen arm. 3rd base is now covered.

    You better offer one of Phelps/Nova or maybe Hughes, if Towers can extend him plus Dave Robertson for starters.

  97. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    @twithersAP: Told Progressive Field lights are on and Nick Swisher’s face is on scoreboard as team tries to land free agent, who is visiting today.

    Lol

  98. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    3rd base is now covered.

    ****

    I am thinking that if Towers can acquire a 3rd baseman for the future beyond Chavez – he would prefer that – - – -

  99. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    YT-

    Can you make that call for me ?

    ;)

  100. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    If Swisher signs with Cleveland – I am sure he will mention how it is a homecoming for him coming back to Ohio and the land of Ohio State, etc. – - – -

  101. blake December 18th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    I hope Swisher gets his money and I wish him the best….he was a really good player for the Yanks

  102. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Can you make that call for me ?

    ****

    It is 3.99 the first five minutes – 10.99 each additional minute – - – -

  103. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    I hope Swisher gets his money and I wish him the best….he was a really good player for the Yanks

    *****

    Especially when you consider how little it took to acquire him – - – -

  104. UnKnown December 18th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    Swisher obviously has Ohio ties but I doubt after playing for the Yankees he is going to agree to play for the Tribe.

    Of course money rules all and if the deal is really that good then he will probably agree to go there and play. But I think he continues to hold out and be patient throughout the process.

  105. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    Blake-

    I say it again.

    Cashman should aim high. Don’t settle before you have to.

    We have many atttractive pieces we can off to Towers as well as others.

    Few untouchables.

    Package deals. Bargains galore.

    ML as well as high-end MiLB stuff.

    Come on down. We’re open for buisness.

    We’ll treat you right.

    ;)

  106. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Look over the updated list of remaining free agents. Any possibles that fit the Yankee current mantra that might help-bullpen, starter, position player, bench, DH?

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....gents.html

    Liriano, Marcum, Saunders, Myers K-Rod?

    Hafner, Abreu are still out there.

    Olivo , Shoppach, Torrealba[one of better defensive catchers] are still out there if AJ won’t sign for one year.

  107. Jerkface December 18th, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    I’d take a chance on Liriano or Marcum if they deal one of their starters.

  108. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    Watching the Jets last night reminded me of the Cowboys 2007 playoff game against the Seahawks. It was that painful lol. Probably a good thing for Jets fans in general though.. they’ll clean house after this year. If they were teetering on a playoff spot they might not go as far as they should when it comes to turning over the staff.

  109. randy l. December 18th, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    “I think currently the Yanks are about an 88-90 win team…”

    blake-

    that’s without any big injuries. that’s if everything goes right.

    sabathia goes down. forget it. or kuroda. or cano.

    or if mariano has probelms.

    we won’t know until the season starts where the yankees are relative to the division.

    the proactive thing to do is to use this 2013 to set up the future. trade granderson for young prospects.

    they won’t be able to keep hughes either if he has a good year . i’d trade him too rather than be just good enough to not quite make the playoffs with him.

    hughes and granderson should have some value to some team. especially if they have the ability to sign them long term which the yankees don’t.

  110. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    What can you give me for:

    GGBG, Nunez,Adams, Hughes/Nova/phelps, Banuelos/Betances, D-Rob, Logan, Montgomery, Heathcott, Aarsdma, Joba, Campos, DePaula, Ramirez.

    Nothing of value there ?

    Really ?

    that’s interesting.

    ;)

    ;)

  111. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Stone-

    The DBacks have righty Chris Johnson for 3rd. Had a pretty good year. His stats:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....is-johnson

  112. blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Jerkface says:
    December 18, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    I’d take a chance on Liriano or Marcum if they deal one of their starters.

    Or just an in house guy….or a flyer on Jurjins or something …..if they dealt one of Nova/Phelps then just slot the other one in

  113. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    YT-

    Get with the program.

    We are not trading for band-aid FA’s.

    We are trading qualitiy for quality to get what we want.

    We have plenty of it. Just have to find a match.

    Stop squeezing those prospects so tight.

    ;)

  114. Jerkface December 18th, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Olivo sucks, Shoppach is a platoon bat on the wrong side of the plate, and torrealba is not a good bat so thats basically status quo for the Yankees. Lately he has had a kind of reverse split, so maybe they can run Torreabla & Cervelli platoon.

    Not great

  115. blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    “hughes and granderson should have some value to some team. especially if they have the ability to sign them long term which the yankees don’t.”

    The Yankees don’t think this way though….they want to win next year….they want to be on a budget…. They don’t apparently want to consider how to make both of those things work longterm…..

    Maybe they’ll surprise us…..but Im expecting them to play the year with Granderson, Cano, and Hughes and letting them all 3 walk or giving Cano a 200 million dollar contract.

  116. blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    If EJax is looking at a 3 year deal and the AAV is reasonable then Id look at him if they traded Hughes

  117. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    Randy-

    I am a progressive baseball thinker.

    :)

  118. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Stone-

    The DBacks have righty Chris Johnson for 3rd. Had a pretty good year. His stats:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/…..is-johnson

    *****

    Yeah, I guess – but if they can get a younder 3rd baseman – plus pitching – idk – that might be more ideal than OFers – b/c they have some good OF prospects in Pollock and Eaton – - – -

  119. blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    If you could get Trumbo for Hughes for example then turn around and sign Jackson to a 3/30 contract then IMO then team is better…..

  120. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    Blake-

    We have to keep working it.

    Why settle now ?

    ;)

  121. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    Randy-

    The only thing with Granderson is that every facet, except for the homers were down this past season.

  122. blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    Trumbo isn’t perfect but he’s a power RH bat who is controlled who can fake RF and to a lesser extent 3B….he’d be a good get at DH and platoon partner for Ichiro and they could sign a similar pitcher in Jackson maybe to a contract like the extension you’d like Hughes to take

  123. MTU December 18th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    All this progressive trade talk has made me hungry.

    I’m going out for a slice.

    Back later.

  124. Doreen December 18th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    This is insanity.

    The New York Yankees should not be in a conversation about having to let their best players leave because they can’t afford them.

    And then watch then all do well on teams throughout MLB.

    Utterly depressing.

    (The emotional side had to have its say; the rational side has had the floor to now.)

  125. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    RAB on DePaula

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....ula-80642/

  126. blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    “The New York Yankees should not be in a conversation about having to let their best players leave because they can’t afford them.”

    Join the resistance Doreen. Your standard issue gruel spoon is in the mail

  127. Jerkface December 18th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    The crappy thing about Granderson leaving is that on a team which chooses to afford it, he is one of the best community/good clubhouse/general PR guys to have on a team. The HRs & the baseball stuff he does is the tangible bonus.

  128. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    MTU

    If the Cubs would eat most of Alfonso Soriano’s contract for the next two years, I’d have interest in him, over Vernon Wells, who if offered for free, I’d be hesitant to get.

    So get Soriano for RF, for a decent prospect. Trade Granderson to Rangers for Olt and another prospect. Put Gardner in center and Ichiro in left and call it a day for you regular starters.

    Bench/DH of some combination of Nunez, Mustelier, Mesa, Dickerson, Adams.

    Get Pierzynski and give Romine the chance to platoon.

    Give Montogomery every chance in ST to make the team

    Does that work for the “cash-starved” Yankees?

  129. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    “The New York Yankees should not be in a conversation about having to let their best players leave because they can’t afford them.”

    Join the resistance Doreen. Your standard issue gruel spoon is in the mail

    ————–

    Le Resistance!!!

    And we carry silver spoons blake.. only silver spoons for Team Greedy!

  130. MaineYankee December 18th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    per Nick Cafardo

    Any chance the Sox make a run at Rafael Soriano for a closer and package Andrew Bailey in a trade?
    Jeff, North Reading, Mass.
    I think Soriano is on their radar.

  131. randy l. December 18th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    blake-

    i think they should throw in the towel and quit. they are playing a losing game. better to prune the tree and regroup.

    the probability of everything going right the way they are planning 2013 is so low that it isn’t worth trying.

    some people are to stupid to know when they are playing a losing game.

    hal is playing a losing game.

    it’s just dumb.

    even with a retooled team you still try to win. who knows what young player/s might come back in a trade for granderson and hughes?

    it would be much more interesting watching a young retooled team try to win in 2013-2014 than a patched up band of aged baseball mercenaries just wearing the laundry.

    and the yankees should try to sign cano right now, and if they can’t they should trade him too.

  132. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    Also Doreen, I think it stands to reason on some level that wanting the Yankees to spend money isn’t irrational. There is certainly something to the ‘it takes money to make money’ idiom.

  133. blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    “the probability of everything going right the way they are planning 2013 is so low that it isn’t worth trying.”

    Yea but they have already committed to trying by spending over 60 million in one year contracts.

    I think they need to pick a lane….. Either go full bore and all in in 2013 and try to win one last title with this group ….. Or start the rebuild a year early and get on with it.

    Playing it half way doesn’t help anything…..it likely doesn’t get a championship and it does nothing to build for the future…..

  134. randy l. December 18th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    blake-

    pettitte and rivera would be good yankee role models for any young players coming into the yankee system.

    kuroda is just a very good pitcher. youkillis? they could have passed on that 12 million if they were going to retool.

    so i guess some of us are saying the yankees are trying real hard to almost be good.

    “almost” is the operative word.

    i said last year before the season git going to sign hughes longterm before he had a good year.
    now it’s too late.

    hal and hank are dumb asses as far as signing young players long term.

  135. Doreen December 18th, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    I’m just beginning to think they’re playing with fire here. From a couple of different points of view.

    It’s the talk of Swish being wined and dined, and Granderson saying he figures he won’t be back and then people talking about if Hughes has a good year, they won’t be able to afford to bring him back (what was all the work that went into Hughes for then, I ask????)

    And while I still think that the plan is to re-start the spending when it’s less onerous for the Yankees do to so (tax-wise, etc.), it might not be all that easy to do.

    What will be left of the team I’ve been following? Sigh.

  136. blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    “so i guess some of us are saying the yankees are trying real hard to almost be good.”

    I think that’s appropriate….I think they are just trying to tread water….build a team that can make the playoffs and hopefully keep the fans coming…..

  137. randy l. December 18th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    “what was all the work that went into Hughes for then, I ask????)”

    doreen-

    how crazy is it that we’ve actually been on the blog long enough to watch a yankee prospect come along, get his 6 year yankee career in ,and walk because the new yankees can’t afford him ?

    somehow, that goes against the developing from within cashman plan.

  138. blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    I think they are positioning to sell…..trying to balance continuing to win with making the club leaner payroll wise

  139. Doreen December 18th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    On the rational level, I can’t disagree with what they’re doing entirely.

    But emotionally?

    I don’t want to ever be spoiled and entitled. But after watching Phil Hughes’ trials and tribulations, if he puts together a solid season, I want to be able to continue to root for him as a Yankee. I put in the time. I don’t want another team’s fans to have that benefit. Same with Cano. These are homegrowns. Swisher hurts, but not as much as if he’d been with the Yankees forever, and Granderson will be the same way. But if they let Cano and Hughes go, there will be no core Yankees. Not really. You can’t build a core around Dave Robertson (much as I love the guy) – he can be part of a core, but not the core of the core, you know?

    I’ll follow and root for them regardless (the Yankees that is), but it’ll have a different tone to it.

  140. Doreen December 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    randy l -

    “Somehow” goes against it??? Totally goes against it!!!!

    My goodness, we have a stake in Phil Hughes’ as a Yankee for life!

  141. Doreen December 18th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    blake -

    Who wants to buy a Yankees team with no name recognition (Pettitte & Mo will be gone) that can be connected to the dynasty years?

    Who wants to buy a Yankees team that is marginal (and they may not be, they may win who knows)?

    What would a new owner build upon????????????

  142. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    These are strong words being used – strong words – - – -

  143. Doreen December 18th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    And, to add to the no dynasty players left thing, no players in line to carry out the Yankees’ way? Or what we have come to see as the Yankees’ way?

    (I’m having brain cramps, can’t think of better wording, but I think you all know what I mean.)

    The Yankees are more than just the empty pinstripes and the facade in the Stadium.

  144. Doreen December 18th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    I need to stay away from here when I’m already feeling blue to begin with…

  145. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Don’t buy into the spoiled and entitled argument Doreen. This team set the standard, all we’re doing is holding them to it.

    I said a few months ago that for the different teams I follow my expectations are different. I’d sell my first born just to see a Cowboys playoff win. Not a SuperBowl, just a playoff win. For teams like the Yankees/Devils that create a culture of winning, a part of the fun is always being right there, knocking on the door of greatness.

  146. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    I’d sell my first born just to see a Cowboys playoff win.

    *****

    I can’t believe I am conversing with a Cowboys fan – but I am curious – how much did you sell your first born for when the Cowboys won a playoff game in January 2010?

  147. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    It isn’t about being emotional or irrational at all.. this team has been successful in large part because it was willing to push the envelope of spending. If they aren’t ready to continue along that path, they can win by playing smarter. Our issues, for the most part, focus on a) if they can do that and b) if they’re trying to fit a circle in a square by doing in in 2014.

  148. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    I’d sell my first born just to see a Cowboys playoff win.

    *****

    I can’t believe I am conversing with a Cowboys fan – but I am curious – how much did you sell your first born for when the Cowboys won a playoff game in January 2010?

    ————–

    I’m just saying I would… One playoff win in 2 decades is nothing to be particularly proud of.

    The Devils are a great example of why I’m not always on Team Greedy.. they never (rarely) get big name players or spend big. What they do is push a similar style of play from the top to the bottom of their organization, and continue to develop players that fit within the system they implement. I don’t need my team to spend big, I just need them to want to be great. Always.

  149. blake December 18th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    “Who wants to buy a Yankees team with no name recognition (Pettitte & Mo will be gone) that can be connected to the dynasty years?”

    The Yankee brand ( if they don’t ruin it first) is worth billions. The Dodgers weren’t any good when they were purchased…..

  150. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Thinking BIG is more important than spending big.

    Has this Yankees club done anything outside the box to help themselves? Is this a team thinking big?

  151. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Mega trade with the Dodgers to brighten Doreen’s day All parties waive their no trade clauses.

    Granderson, Cano, Teixeira, and Sabathia and yes, Rodriguez go to the Dodgers for

    Kemp, Gonzalez, Ethier and Kershaw.

    Dodgers then sign Nick Swisher and everybody’s happy…………………….or not.

    Doreen- fell any happier now?

    Feel free to make adjustments to the trade.

  152. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    The Yankees can make names just as easily as they can buy them.. the question is will they do so successfully.

    They did it with Jeter. They did it with Mo. They did it with Cano. Hell they even did it with Joba. Joba is like the Tebow of MLB in name recognition vs. production.

    Can they do it with Williams, Sanchez and Banuelos? Honestly, I think yes.

    It’s what the interim holds that worries me lol.

  153. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    I’m just saying I would… One playoff win in 2 decades is nothing to be particularly proud of.

    *****

    2 decades dates back to 1992 – when they were winning Super Bowls – up to 1995 – - the Cowboys are pure sports evil – - – - I lived in Dallas during the 3 in 4 years Super Bowls – as a Giants fan – as far as I am concerned – the Cowgirls should never win anything substantial again – - – -

  154. Doreen December 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Yankee Trader -

    You know I don’t do trades. ;)

    But this doesn’t make me any happier. They couldn’t keep these guys either.

  155. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Has this Yankees club done anything outside the box to help themselves?

    *****

    Yeah and they got lambasted on this blog for doing it – - – -

  156. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Lol, okay, it’s not quite a full 2 decades. It’s just been 15 years. I rounded up since we won’t be winning one this year either.

  157. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    @MMehtaNYDN

    Jets now confirm that Greg McElroy will be starting QB vs Chargers

    Speaking of mediocrity.. you think the Jets fanbase would be this mad at their team if this coach and QB weren’t also the same duo to take them to the AFC Championship game 2 years in a row?

    Expectations are everything.

  158. blake December 18th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    “Has this Yankees club done anything outside the box to help themselves?

    *****

    Yeah and they got lambasted on this blog for doing it – – – -”

    Have they done anything smart outside the box?

  159. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Doreen-

    Sorry. Let’s just hope Cashman can bring in a player or two that will generate some LoHud enthusiasm sooner than later!

    Until later everyone. Have a great day.

  160. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Has this Yankees club done anything outside the box to help themselves?

    *****

    Yeah and they got lambasted on this blog for doing it – – – -

    ——————-

    :?:

    What did they do that was outside the box? If you mean trading a prospect for a pitcher, that’s hardly outside the box.

  161. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Lol, okay, it’s not quite a full 2 decades. It’s just been 15 years. I rounded up since we won’t be winning one this year either.

    *****

    I need to recuse myself from talking about the Cowboys – in high school when they were winning their Super Bowls I got the *&^& kicked out of me b/c I wore a Dave Meggett jersey on the Friday before each Super Bowl as a sign of protest (of course this was back in 1992-1993 – before Meggett turned out to be a complete jerk and is now serving a 30 year sentence – but hey – how was I supposed to know as a 14-15 year old back in the 90s) – - – -

  162. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    “Has this Yankees club done anything outside the box to help themselves?

    *****

    Yeah and they got lambasted on this blog for doing it – – – -”

    Have they done anything smart outside the box?

    ****

    Well now that changes the question now does it – - – -

  163. Doreen December 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    I can live with a couple of down years – or at least, I think I can.

    I just hate what feels like housecleaning.

    And I hate that there is a real danger of losing two homegrown players, one a bona fide star (Cano) and the other just short of it (Hughes) BEFORE THEIR TIME. It was hard enough losing Bernie. But at least he had his whole career here and was not going anywhere else. I don’t know if I’ll be able to see Hughes pitch for whoever and Cano getting silver sluggers and gold gloves for someone else.

    I will miss the smooth DP combination of Jeter/Cano.

    I feel like we’ve been led down a road to nowhere.

    Now, I may feel differently tomorrow. And as I said, none of this stops me from hoping they win no matter what the construct of the team. Right now, I should stayed away from this place…..!

  164. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    errrr doesn’t – - – -

  165. blake December 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    If you mean trading your best prospect for an unproven pitcher so you wouldn’t have to spend money on Yu Darvish? Yea …. That’s not the outside the box type thinking we need….

  166. MaineYankee December 18th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Winnie the Pooh wants Eeyore back.

  167. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    If you mean trading your best prospect for an unproven pitcher so you wouldn’t have to spend money on Yu Darvish? Yea …. That’s not the outside the box type thinking we need….

    *****

    I was thinking more about Casey McGehee and acquiring Steve Pearce multiple times in season – but now you mention the trade that shall not be mentioned – - – -

  168. blake December 18th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    “I was thinking more about Casey McGehee and acquiring Steve Pearce multiple times in season ”

    That’s outside the box thinking?

  169. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Even if it wasn’t smart, it still wasn’t an earth shattering move (all due respect to LoHud) in the sense that it took creativity. It didn’t sure up our team for the future. It didn’t move any pieces on the MLB roster.

    Please go back to wearing your Dave Meggett jersey.. that might be just the kind of luck a team like the Cowboys needs ;)

  170. Patrick December 18th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    If you mean trading your best prospect for an unproven pitcher so you wouldn’t have to spend money on Yu Darvish? Yea …. That’s not the outside the box type thinking we need….

    —-

    Ugh .. We could have Montero, Darvish, Cespedes and Chapman right now. That would go a long way to helping the team get under $189 and still be great. Oh well, I guess hindsight is 20/20

  171. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Please go back to wearing your Dave Meggett jersey.. that might be just the kind of luck a team like the Cowboys needs

    *****

    I can’t – the crime he committed was too vile – now if I broke out my Mark Bavaro jersey (if I can find it) – now we are talking – - – what – what am I saying – I do not want to bring any luck to the Cowboys – - – -

  172. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    I think they’re trying to keep as much money off the books as they can next year so they won’t need to unceremoniously show Andy, Mo, and to a lesser degree Kuroda the door. I’d like to think Robbie is in the plans but if those other guys wanna play… gets tough.

  173. The Return of Stoneburner December 18th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    New post ->

  174. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Patrick December 18th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    If you mean trading your best prospect for an unproven pitcher so you wouldn’t have to spend money on Yu Darvish? Yea …. That’s not the outside the box type thinking we need….

    —-

    Ugh .. We could have Montero, Darvish, Cespedes and Chapman right now. That would go a long way to helping the team get under $189 and still be great. Oh well, I guess hindsight is 20/20

    —————-

    2 of the 4 would have been pretty good lol.. and it didn’t take a lot of foresight to know they’d be valuable to the team.

    Cespedes is the one that hurts me the most, knowing we’d have holes in the OF in the very near future.

  175. austinmac December 18th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    It is clear the Yankees want to try to be competive for 2013 but do so without incurring obligations in future years. That simply doesn’t work as it leaves old, unwanted players willing to sign one year deals.

    There has never been a time in the Steinbrenner ownership when players they liked didn’t return for money reasons. Now, multiple good players leave annually. Next year there will be a flood of departures beginning with Granderson, Cano, Pettitte, Hughes and Rivera.

    Try replacing three key starters, two principal offensive players and the closer on the cheap. Exactly what is the plan, Brian?

  176. austinmac December 18th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Is the team thinking big?

    I wonder if they are thinking at all. It is like me at Neimann’s looking at the price tag and putting the item back on the rack.

    They are shopping at a different store now.

  177. austinmac December 18th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Patrick,

    It may be hindsight now, but many on the blog begged for those moves. Many argued Cespedes and Darvish would help with the cap.

    The Yankees have not shown ANY foresight. They have done nothing to help 2014 other than sign a bunch of players who won’t be here. They should have been acquiring good players at reasonable cost.

  178. FreeAgentSignee December 19th, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    Trade Granderson Yankees.
    Get a deal Yankees.

  179. FreeAgentSignee December 19th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Trade Granderson Yankees.
    Get a deal Yankees.
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