Jeter reaches out to Sandy Hook victim’s family
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 20, 2012 
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Derek Jeter. Good guy.
Yesterday, the Yankees captain called the mother of Sandy Hook Elementary teacher Vicki Soto, who was killed last week during the Newtown massacre. Jeter called on the day Vicki was buried.
“It was a surprise and unexpected,” Soto’s cousin, James Wiltsie, told the Daily News. “Donna was ecstatic over it and very happy. She spoke to him for quite some time.”
Wiltsie said no one from the family reached out and asked for the phone call, but it still happened. Nicely done by Jeter, bringing at least a moment of happiness to a remarkably sad and tragic situation.
“People like Jeter have reached out,” Wiltsie said. “It brings some comfort to know that people recognize Vicki as a hero.”
Associated Press photo
Jeter is the Yankees.
i’d like to have nunez in this year’s lineup more often than when jeter sits or dh’s.
i agree that nunez just seems to be a player who can’t handle moving around. i just think that if they gave him a shot to be the 3bman, he’d be fine there.
i believe he will be a good SS, but i dont think we have more than a p/t opening there for another 2 years minimum.
We’re lucky as fans to have Derek Jeter to root for and to represent the Yankees.
Very nice gesture and, though it’s painful, it’s probably for the better to have this reminder of what happened last week.
you just KNOW jeter’s going to be at short on opening day.
Good form Cap’n!
Ys Guy says:
December 20, 2012 at 9:18 pm
you just KNOW jeter’s going to be at short on opening day.
Oh yea
Jeter a great player and a great person.
mick December 20th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
If they were continuing their spending ways they wouldn’t have to hit on all of those players.
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Hal just wants to spend wisely.
Build the team around youth , then pick up needed FA’s.
This years group stunk anyway..
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The youth the are going to build around is 2-3 yrs away.
and this is why Jeter is my favorite player
The youth the are going to build around is 2-3 yrs away.
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2 years away is fine .
Two yrs away from getting here…..from getting here. They still have to adjust playing on this level.
we might see some of them in 2014
as bad as romine’s year was, he ops’d 30 pts higher than martin did. i dont think its crazy to think that he could put up better #’s than martin in, say 120 games.
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What? Romine did not OPS higher than Martin this year. Unless you meant in the minor leagues, where he did so in 30 games, with most of the damage coming in 5 A ball games. You cannot compare 2 players like that across different leagues. Martin hit in the majors, the most difficult place to do so, Romine barely played in the minor leagues.
We might but I doubt they would want to rush them
If they aren’t ready by then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_FwP9sDGKI
“The youth the are going to build around is 2-3 yrs away.”
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gardner, nova, phelps, romine, nunez, cervelli, roberston, eppley and wade (and pineda) are already here and have tremendous opportunities to claim bigger roles next season.
austin, adams, mustelier, curtis, dickerson, betances, almonte(s) and others have a chance to shine this year and compete for a spot next year.
then comes the next wave
most of these guys won’t make it. some will. some will surprise. one or two might turn out to be special.
jf, martin sucked. and i liked the guy. to me its definitely possible robertson or even cervelli could give the yankees offense what martin did (or didn’t) last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjFYxANYF7g
btw, is curtis still around? i just threw him on the list b/c he always seemed to do well whenever i saw him. seems like he’s been around too long to be an actual major league option.
Nicely said Nick.
Victoria Soto by all accounts was a great person, a great teacher, a hero and a Yankee fan. I’m sure if asked, Jeter would tell you any praise given belongs to Victoria.
Thanks Jete for giving comfort to a family who desperately needs it.
sorry i meant romine not robertson…
They need two to be special. They can’t be might or maybes at this point.
jf, martin sucked. and i liked the guy. to me its definitely possible robertson or even cervelli could give the yankees offense what martin did (or didn’t) last year.
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Martin had a .713 OPS. Romine did not even OPS .700 in AAA. Expecting him to do so in the majors is folly. Stewart is a .500 OPS bat, and who knows what Cervelli would bring as a starter.
They can’t be might or maybes at this point.
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how can you be sure, they are prospects.
If Austin is fully recovered from his back issues, you’ll see him being a top 7 ROY guy in 2013.
gardner, nova, phelps, romine, nunez, cervelli, roberston, eppley and wade (and pineda) are already here and have tremendous opportunities to claim bigger roles next season.
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Cory Wade is on the cubs now, eppley is a platoon reliever of the lowest order, 2 of these guys are backup catchers and 1 has barely played at all in the majors.
Montgomery is on the come.
Top 7? How spectacular! There weren’t even 7 people voted for in the NL or AL last year. So good to know he is potentially off the ballot.
That was last year you twit Ferkface…….Such a peckerhead you are
That was last year you twit Ferkface…….Such a peckerhead you are
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Good to know there will be atleast 7 candidates in the AL this year and Romine might rank among the bottom of them with 1 or 2 votes.
@NYDNHarper: Thought Pierzynski was perfect for Yanks, especially on a 1-yr deal. All-business ballclub could use an agitator, as well as his LH power.
so i listed 10 guys who could have impact this year, you picked off the weakest 2 (one is already gone) there are 8 more guys on that list. you can project complete for all of them of course, just as i could project they all become HOF’ers. but some of those guys are going to step up and sieze the opportunity.
just like bernie did, just like posada did, just like mariano freakin rivera did.
have a little faith.
mick December 20th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
They can’t be might or maybes at this point.
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how can you be sure, they are prospects.
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My point is the Yankees are past the hey if this guy doesn’t work out it’s fine *shoulder shrug*. Their financial advantage is not what it once was, the roster is old, and they need these next group of prospects to come through.
Well I could also run down the rest of your list if I chose. Its not a great foundation because outside of Robertson & Gardner none of the people you listed are MLB regulars right now. And those 2 are free agents in 2 years.
Do we have to have faith in Cory Wade???
Every team in baseball has 10 guys they can say might play in the majors from their minor league system. Relying on them to be good and form a foundation for a youth movement is another thing entirely.
If 20 guys have ‘a great opportunity’ in the majors for a season, you did something wrong.
The Face who ragged me last winter for the Cespedes Bo Jackson comparision, the same two winters ago when I once again went on the record and said that Ivan Nova would be a contender for The AL Roy. And this blog’s archive’s is peppered with similar on the record comments only to be hammered with your bullsht. You never have and never will go oout on the limb because without your nifty spreadsheets or google you know ziltch. Just like GB did I see through your crap.. You’re a CB wantabee without the baseball eye for the game. So backoff chump
Nick in SF says:
December 20, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Do we have to have faith in Cory Wade???
Who?
@JonHeymanCBS: A.J. Pierzynski’s 1-yr deal #rangers deal is worth about $7M
Good grief
why is everything a morality play in here?
go see the hobbit if you want that.
SMFH that can’t be it no way no f’in way
You never have and never will go oout on the limb because without your nifty spreadsheets or google you know ziltch.
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I was pretty out on a limb about Yu Darvish, who was better than Hughes+Nova last year so neener neener neener.
So they’ll spend 12 million on a guy that hasn’t played a full season since 2009 and hit .235 last year…..but won’t spend 7 million on a legit starting catcher? Ok….
of course you can run down any list of minor leaguers and say why they wont make it.
posada doesnt have a position. rivera is maybe a reliever at best, jeter makes tons of errors, pettitte and williams aren’t ‘tough enough’
the thing is, you bring them up and sometimes they overcome their shortcomings and succeed.
may be ajp didn’t want to play here, maybe he acted like the d!ck he is purported to be…but err on the side of the negative….makes for better conversation
if you’re a pessimist, you’re a pessimist…nothing wrong with that, i pity you, but it’s your right.
everything sucks and nothing ever goes right!
quite the rally cry!
the thing is, you bring them up and sometimes they overcome their shortcomings and succeed.
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Yea and being willing to play minor leaguers is good and the reason why the Yankees bench should not be taken over by guys like McGahee & Steve Pearce, it doesn’t mean its great that the Yankees have a bunch of holes that minor leaguers might fill. There is absolutely no reason Austin Romine or Cervelli or Chris Stewart should be our starting catcher, or covering BOTH BUC & starter out of this group. You need to give minor leaguers like you listed seasons to get to the point where the Yankees are counting on them.
Robertson was trash in his first season, so was Gardner. It takes a couple of years for them to reach a high level. You want to work these guys in, not throw them all to the wolves in 1 year. Thats not a youth movement its suicide.
@JonHeymanCBS: Pierzynski got $7.5M to be more precise. #rangers
Unreal….
True but you just brought up 5 players that basically exceeded expectations on the major league level. What happened with them is a perfect storm.
mick,
sitting around talking about a bunch of fringe to non-prospects is such much better right?
@JonHeymanCBS: I hereby nominate AJ Pierzynski as The One True Bargain of 2012-13 offseason.: $7.5M for catcher who hit 27 HRs
people love a train wreck, what can i say…
If you think the Yankees have 4 hall of famers coming within the next 2 years…
no guarantees in baseball…they’re old and trying to get younger
no guarantees in baseball…they’re old and trying to get younger
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They can get quality free agents & spend money while also getting younger, one does not preclude the other. They are only getting younger as a consequence of their roster decisions, which isn’t the right way to do it.
Nor is it in a way that potentially helps the team.
nobody knew that jeter bernie posada mo and andy would be what they became…
Robertson was trash in his first season, so was Gardner. It takes a couple of years for them to reach a high level. You want to work these guys in, not throw them all to the wolves in 1 year. Thats not a youth movement its suicide.
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Thank you finally someone said it. Just because the kids will be here in two yrs doesn’t mean they’ll be full time major league players by then. They will go through their ups and downs just like everyone else. That is not a shot toward Ys just something in general that I see/heat whether it’s fans I meet face to face or Ted Nelson on RAB.
wow, 7.5 mil for one year of AJP. I see lots of pressure on Romine this coming spring.
They can get quality free agents
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thats what i thought cc, kuroda,mo, tex, andy and jeter were
this years class stunk
They’re saving their money to get younger with Ibanez.
Yea and something like that is not happening again, and definitely not within the next 2 years. That was a special group, a confluence of events that is unprecedented. To have essentially 5 hall of famers, or close to it, come up within the same 2 year span is insane.
thats what i thought cc, kuroda,mo, tex, andy and jeter were
this years class stunk
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Nick Swisher is a good player. Hamilton is a good player. They could have went after Cespedes, Darvish, Chapman, etc.
mick December 20th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
nobody knew that jeter bernie posada mo and andy would be what they became…
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That’s rare though you never see something like that again. It rarely happens to the same organization twice. If it does it happens many yrs later because the team bottomed out.
its called evolution. this time period requires cutting spending but that doesn’t have to be permanent and so remains to be seen. in the meantime, in a possible down period, youth will have to served by necessity, FA’s can always be bought..
It does not require cutting spending.
, come up within the same 2 year span is insane.
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Ppl don’t realize how rare something like that is.
And this seems more like devolution.
in 1995 the yankees let the minor leaguers have a chance. they brought up two players who were drafted in the 20 something rounds, an undrafted f/a who failed as a starter and a first round pick.
how many of these guys were projected to be what they became? the answer is none of them.
posada, pettitte, jeter and mo.
you have no idea what a man can do until he’s given a chance.
@bkabak: Pierzynski signed for $500K less than what the Yanks are paying Ichiro next year. Ok.
I feel like Clark Griswold where he freaks out at the end of Christmas Vacation…..I wish we had an Eddie to go get Hal and drag him in with a ribbon on his head.
It does not require cutting spending.
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of course it does
perhaps ajp didnt want to play here…
None of them were starters going into the year though, Ys Guy, where as many of our minor leaguers may be starters going into 2014-2015 because we have no one else. And again these guys are hall of famers, and Mariano wasn’t Mariano until 96. I fully expect some IFA we signed who is in AAA to come up and pitch some innings within the next few years. Jeter played 15 games in september. Sure, we can expect someone to get 15 games in September. Posada played 1 game and didnt even get an AB. Pettitte started and was very good. I hope we have a 23 year old who can be counted on for 175 innings in 2014 or 15.
of course it does
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How? How is it REQUIRED?
every report is saying that the Yankees never even considered Pierzynski. i guess we will never know if he wanted to play here.
i guess we will never know if he wanted to play here.
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but we can assume the worst…the guy has a bad rep and hal won’t deal with them.
Jerkface,
we can’t spend money because its important that we play a utility player who cannot field, a 27 year old outfielder, and a failed back up catcher. youth movement!
pierzynski is an ahole. maybe he could have helped, maybe not. now he’s a ranger.
f pierzynski.
we still have a high payroll , they won a title with these guys, its a new cba, doesn’t have to be forever
youth movement!
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they are in the minors where they should be, not here yet.
All the prospects for Carlos Santana….prepare yourselves
The CBA does not require them to cut spending. It is their choice to do so.
Jeter is Jeter. He understands and gets everything. Newtown is a short drive away from NYC. That part of Connecticut is mostly Yankee territory. A phone call from the captain is nice, especially now.
I’m still waiting for that article from Jon Heyman. You know, the one that criticizes Dombrowski or some other GM for not aggressively pursuing Soriano. C’mon Heyman, quit slacking and do your job. Yanks would like to collect the compensation pick.
The CBA does not require them to cut spending. It is their choice to do so.
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correct. in hals mind it’s a requirement.
All the prospects for Carlos Santana….prepare yourselves
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mick December 20th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
i guess we will never know if he wanted to play here.
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but we can assume the worst…the guy has a bad rep and hal won’t deal with them.
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Yet they signed Youk
youk has a bad rep ?
he is an oneill type.
and wanted to play here.
Aj probably wanted to play here too.
I really hope the Yanks don’t do something stupid and overpay (either in free agency or in a trade) for some crappy veteran catcher. If its not a difference maker and the Yanks are going the cheap route, lets see if Romine can get the job done. If he does, Hal has his “cheap good player” that will help him to his $189 million dream. If not, its what roster spot #20 out of 25 that has to be filled next offseason? Big woop.
I just don’t believe that the “Defensive first” Yankees will start a rookie at catcher. IMO The job is Stewart’s to lose. In fact I think Romine will start in AAA so he can get reps in.
Stewie and Cervy thats your tandem.
“Stewie and Cervy thats your tandem.”
Yippie
It is insane to sign ichiro for 2 years when he is a platoon player meaning,we need a rh bat wich will cost more money,but we can’t sign ajp.
Also,the yankees are not a small market team,so counting on several prospects simply will not work when tex,cc,arod,maybe jeter will be a few years older than they are now,and they are all declining.
They messed up bigtime.
They should of traded cano,granderson,hughes for 3b,p,o.f.,c,2b well above average to top prospects that are almost ready,then signed hamilton,ajp,and one,or two more free agents.
blake
More like yikes! Trying to be positive, it wont be hard for them to exceed my expectations.
Good night Yankee fans.
Suicide watch here ?
Ted Nelson on RAB – That guy is a lunatic. I love RAB but he makes it hard sometimes.
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Rangers just got a steal with AJP. First thing that has broke right for them this off-season.
I really wish the Yankees would have been in on him. Would have been perfect.
Just wait until Granderson, Cano, Hughes are on the next train out of here due to budget constraints and ARod is unable to regain his old form due to his hip deterioration.
Just think 5 more years of mediocrity for $ 114 million.
O Hank, no wonder you are in hiding.
UnKnown December 20th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Cashman will invent some new rubbish about how that would be too many left handed bats in the everyday lineup or something similar.
Yeah who knows. Definitely going to be a wild ride this year that is for sure.
I just wish they would have really went for it in 2013, because everything points to some major steps backwards in 2014 and beyond.
Like I’ve said before, sucking in 2014 will be a lot more tolerable after coming off a W.S. Championship in 2013.
Unless the Blue Jays get decimated with injuries they will be tough to beat. The Sox, Rays and Orioles will be tough too.
IMO, 2013 is going to be a up hill battle.
Time will tell.
Hard to not be upset they wouldn’t sign AJP for 7 mil…
blake December 20th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Nick in SF says:
December 20, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Do we have to have faith in Cory Wade???
Who?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Wade
Amazing that they spent so much this offseason and would not do Pierzynski for $7.5MM or more. What is the evidence that Youkilis will be more valuable at $12MM?
I suppose the only reasons are either because they think Pierzynski is not going to perform at that level again or he is a poor defender.
Before last year, Pierzynski hadn’t had a great season since 2003 (no season with a WAR above 2.1 in that stretch) while Youkilis is a year removed from a WAR of 3.7 (and had a WAR that high or higher for 5 previous seasons). So they presumably they think that Pierzynski will regress to his 3 WAR ways (his low BABIP last season could suggest this).
Nick,
I had blocked Corey Wade from my memory….thanks for the reminder
The world is still here where I am anyway
Good morning Blake.
Up early with the little one?
Is the world out of danger now?
Trader,
I’m not sure….the winter solstice occurred at 6:12 ET so k guess if that was supposedly the time then in guess so
Frickin’ Mayans.
That’s the trouble with things today.
Nobody does quality work.
Couldn’t even get a little “end of the world” prediction right.
Shoulda got AJ P.
Oh well.
From NY Post-Yankees seeking righty-hitting OF:
“It’s not deep,’’ the general manager said of the free-agent pool and trade market.
If free-agent Scott Hairston continues to look for a two-year deal it’s unlikely he will get it from the Yankees, who have signed five free agents this winter and gave just one — Ichiro — a two-year contract. Free-agent Cody Ross is also looking for a multi-year pact.
As for the trade market, the names are enticing, but the dollars and years remaining on contracts put the Yankees out of play.
Minnesota may move Josh Willingham who hit 35 homers and drove in 110 runs last year and has two years and a combined $14 million remaining. And the Twins would likely want something better than what the Yankees could offer.
The Yankees have long liked Colorado’s Michael Cuddyer, but he is owed $21 million for 2013 and 2014. He is a .260 career hitter with a .795 OPS.
Vernon Wells could play the role Andruw Jones filled the last two years, but the Angels would have to swallow most of the astonishing $42 million across two years remaining on his contract.
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Forget Hairston and Ross-they’ll get at least 2 years and if it’s only one year Hairston will go back to the Mets.
Why would the Twins trade Willingham?
Like Cuddyer but he’s getting Swisher 2012 dollars the next 2 years.
Wells-Forget that one.
Morse-If LaRoche stays with the Nats, a lot of teams with better prospects will jump in on the low cost FA OF/1B
So what about Alfono Soriano, IF the Cubs absorb 26M of the 36M remaining on his contract. His corner OF defense can’t be any worse than Willingham or Morse. Can it?
MTU-
Did you get any snow?
From the same NY Post article:
Now, acquiring a right-handed hitting outfielder sits above filling the DH hole, which may lead to Raul Ibanez not returning to The Bronx.
According to a friend, the left-handed hitting Ibanez is looking to find a home “in the next seven to 10 days.’’ The Yankees have talked to Ibanez’s agents, but there hasn’t been any negotiating sessions. The Rangers, Mariners and Phillies are interested and believed to be farther along in the process than the Yankees.
YT-
Absolutely. Went to Zion NP yesterday afternoon to capture some of it.
Cashman appears to be off his stalking horse and onto his hobby horse. Cashman must have been referring to the amazing Youkilis signing as demonstrating his ability to still make big moves. A big move is now defined as overpaying for one year.
Really surprised Pierzynski got less than Martin in dollars per year.
It’s just hard to get excited about any moves Cashman has made so far. Yes I’m glad Kuroda, Pettitte and Rivera are back, but how happy can they now be throwing to fidgety Cervelli or passed ball expert Stewart?
Just shut up and eat your gruel.
G. Love’d
still upset about passing on AJP . I just don’t get the game-plan ! ..
Would you guys trade Gary Sanchez and maybe a Phelps or Nova for Carlos Santana ? Would the Indians?
YT,
They seem happier with that than no DH or right handed hitting outfielder. Strange days indeed.
Maybe the Yankee front office feels that the NL will be strong favorites to win the WS in 2013, with moves the Nats, Braves, Phillies, Reds, Dodgers made and the returning core of the Giants?
Blake,
Cashman has said they will very likely go with the people they have. It is time to believe what he says. He also said he is not concerned about age, and his actions this winter confirm that.
Other than a very cheap right handed outfield bat, I believe they are done. AJ was the last shot to try to recoup offense.
If Ibanez leaves, another 20 homers gone. They have eliminated the problem of over reliance on home runs.
YT,
So the Yankees don’t want to go to the Series and lose? I don’t understand what you are saying.
blake December 21st, 2012 at 7:36 am
Would you guys trade Gary Sanchez and maybe a Phelps or Nova for Carlos Santana ? Would the Indians?
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I would not….the Yanks need to keep their top prospects or they will never get out of this cycle of having to overpay for free agents………..and if they trade pitching (starters they need for next year), they will have no chance next year…….they are better off with a defensive catcher and decent pitching
They should of gave AJP 2 years 16 million. This team is hard to root for and i’m not a spoiled fan that started watching in 96 i watched some terrible teams in late 80′s early 90′s. This team is hancuffed by the arod,tex deals. Thats why they should trade cano and granderson and possibly hughes for as many young close to mlb ready players as possible.They can’t pay cano until he’s 38-40 yrs old. i thought AJP attitude might of shook up this lifeless team.
It’s looking like the best of the last 4 FA’s on the market, Soriano, Lohse, Swisher and Bourn, might not get the dollars or years they were expecting.
Austinmac-
Maybe Hal doesn’t want to top the 2012 opening day payroll of nearly 210M, which is now at 42.5% of every dollar over 178M.
Appears to be little interest in Granderson who apparently has been shopped soon after his 15M option was picked up.
The Mayans’ world ended a long time ago anyway.
Austinmac-
Should have used a smiley face. Most all of the key FA’s and trades, that brought in players from the opposite league were made by the NL, except for the Blue Jays.
Nats land Haren and Span
Phillies land Young and Revere
Braves land Upton and Waldon
Reds land Choo
Dodgers land Greinke
There is a budget for this year, and I don’t think AJ fit in. Youkilis was their big cost and unexpected need. I would have gone the other way, but we shall see.
I hope they keep Nunez as SS/DH and Adams as backup 2B/3B.
Meanwhile, Randy is going to try out for catcher.
“I would not….the Yanks need to keep their top prospects or they will never get out of this cycle of having to overpay for free agents”
Yea ….I’m not saying your wrong….I was just throwing it out there. Devils advocate though…. Santana is only 26 and controlled contract wise for awhile……Sanchez may have more upside but if he just became what Santana is now that’d be awesome…..
Id probably make that trade just because you’d be trading a prospect good catcher for a current good one who is only 26….however I understand your viewpoint.
Mac,
You’re right…. I should just give up
YT,
I get you. For years it has been the AL spending. That does seem to have changed somewhat. It’s okay with me.
Cashman’s plan at catcher: “No plan is a type of plan.”
The Mayans’ world ended a long time ago anyway
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Kev-
The Spanish conquest ended their world.
“Between 1515 and 1516 a great pestilence known as the mayacimil (or “easy death”) devastated the Maya people along the eastern coast of the Yucatan peninsula. “Characterised by great pustules that “rotted their bodies with great stench” , it is believed that this epidemic may have been caused by small pox that had been introduced by the Spanish. Not having any immunity to these new diseases, many Maya died within days of contracting the disease.’
http://www.nichbelize.org/ia-a.....rmath.html
The Mayans never predicted the end of the world….all they predicted was the end of their calendar
YT-
You’ve got mail.
How ’bout the Yanks reacquire Jerry Hairston via trade, take on the $3.75M he’s due in 2013 then offer his brother Scott a chance to play with his brother on the same team for a year (again as didn’t they play together a bit in San Diego)? I bet Scott would take a one-year deal to do that. What’s his problem with wanting two years? He’d rather have two years of security than a chance to play with a World Series contender (as the Yanks still went to the ALCS last year for all their hitting woes)? He doesn’t have the confidence in himself to have a solid enough 2013 to get two or more years after that? His brother grabbed a WS ring with the (’09) Yanks. ‘Way I look at it the Yanks are rescuing Scott from Loserville and if he’s so good how come no one has snatched him up for two years by now?
Veteran utility infielder and righthanded-hitting outfielder with some pop acquired, and both are brothers who could market themselves as a package after 2013 if a team is interested. I’d even be cool with Jerry sharing some 3B a little more than a backup 3B would.
Oh yeah Yankee Trader. Not to say it isn’t horrible.
Did anyone actually think the world was going to end? It just seems silly to believe some ancient calendar. Oh well.
Then again, the way the Yankees are operating, it could be a sign of the end of the world. I really hate the way they’ve handled the catching situation. It’s nonsense.
The Internet predicted the end of the world because the Mayans calendar was ending
If you have ever visited any of the Maya sites you have to be in awe of the sophistication of their culture.
I certainly am.
Their stone structures and temples are absolutely amazing.
I don’t think it is beyond the realm of possibility that Romine could be an effective catcher for us next year………the big concern is his health…………offensively, they Yanks went thru long stretches last year with no offensive production from catcher…………..could Romine be a lot worse or perhaps he might hit .240-.250???
I think they should sign Ibanez and let he and Nunez share DH…….Nunez in a lineup with Ichiro and Gardner should be able to manufacture some runs…………….
Jeter is the face of the NYY, and they should be pround as an organization to have such a person representing them.
My hope is when Jeter hangs it up, he remains a big part of the Yankees. My dream would be to see him lead a group, and purchase the team. Then everyone could really call it “Jeter’s Team”.
GregD December 21st, 2012 at 8:10 am
I don’t think it is beyond the realm of possibility that Romine could be an effective catcher for us next year………the big concern is his health…………offensively, they Yanks went thru long stretches last year with no offensive production from catcher…………..could Romine be a lot worse or perhaps he might hit .240-.250???
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OK. So we’re saying, ‘Romine might not be as bad as Martin’ and Jerkface has already explained why that’s a gamble. There’s nothing to suggest that at all.
And then, you’ve got the fact that Romine if Romine does start, he will be a rookie catcher trying to handle a pitching staff, call games, and run the field. Chad said Newman was raving about Romine’s catching ability, but it’s still a lot to ask of a rookie catcher.
So, we’ve got blind hope that Romine will hit better than Martin, and catch as well, or close to as well, as Stewart.
It’s a stretch, and it’s silly to put the team in this position when we could have signed Martin, or Pierzynski.
“I don’t think it is beyond the realm of possibility that Romine could be an effective catcher for us next year………the big concern is his health…”
I don’t think so either but the health as you mention (and inexperience) is a concern…..to me for one year it would have been perfect to platoon him with AJP and let him get his feet wet and learn the pitchers etc…..they would have had a nice left/right platoon and then hopefully Romine could have taken over full time in 2014……
just throwing him into the fire doesn’t make a lot of sense to me….
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I do think they need righthanded hitting outfielder…..could they be thinking that is Melky Mesa or Zoilo Almonte? I know they were impressed with Zoilo last year in ST. If that doesn’t work, then they rent a player at midseason……..
just throwing him into the fire doesn’t make a lot of sense to me….
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Especially after missing most of last season. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to anyone.
blake December 21st, 2012 at 8:15 am
I don’t think so either but the health as you mention (and inexperience) is a concern…..to me for one year it would have been perfect to platoon him with AJP and let him get his feet wet and learn the pitchers etc…..they would have had a nice left/right platoon and then hopefully Romine could have taken over full time in 2014……
just throwing him into the fire doesn’t make a lot of sense to me….
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I agree that the platoon seemed perfect………..and that the only explanation is that they have more faith in Romine and Cervelli and Stewart than we do………
blake -
A lot of players, that did not have great numbers in the minors, got thrown into the fire, and did real well.
Although I agree Romine is not teated, nor do I think of him as a quality prospect, at least the Yanks are willing to give their system a chance to contribute.
Al-
That would be a dream come true.
For Jeter to pull a “Magic”.
If anyone could pull it off it would be Jeter.
I think if Romine would have been healthy last year…..we never would have acquired Stewart
Mike -
They could hold ST in the hallway of his new home in FL., lol.
Melky Mesa can’t hit offspeed stuff.
He’s worse version of Greg Golson at this point.
Perfect example of why prospects are prospects in spite of “tools”.
MTU-
Got it and thanks again.
I can’t believe that the core starters, Sabathia, Pettitte and Kuroda, and our closer are all that enamored about throwing to Stewart, 8 passed balls in limited play, or Cervelli who can’t seem to sit still behind the plate.
Would have been happy with David Ross mentoring and platooning with Romine.
Al-
It is a wee bit audacious.
YT-
My pleasure to share. Glad you enjoyed them.
The Man upstairs does all the work.
Would you guys trade Gary Sanchez and maybe a Phelps or Nova for Carlos Santana ? Would the Indians?
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Not close to enough in that deal from the Yankees for Cleveland to consider it.
They could always try and get Justin Maxwell back from the Astros. He had numbers against lefties that were smilar to Hairston and Maxwell is a far superior defender.
AAA December 21st, 2012 at 8:26 am
Would you guys trade Gary Sanchez and maybe a Phelps or Nova for Carlos Santana ? Would the Indians?
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No to Sanchez or Phelps
They could always try and get Justin Maxwell back from the Astros. He had numbers against lefties that were smilar to Hairston and Maxwell is a far superior defender.
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Maxwell’s a little light on sample size. Banking on him to be the LHP platoon partner for the OF on the strength of 260 plate appearances (as opposed to 4 times that amount for Hairston) might be a little optimistic.
I’m tired of the Yankees giving away the future, for a few stop gap players.
Let’s give our farm system a chance to develop our future team, and if that means a year or 2 of not making the PS, so be it.
A-Jax, Montero and others being here today would end all the talk of what we needed this off season. Enough already, let’s play the cards we already have.
Al-
With the way this OS is going it appears the Yankees hear you.
“Not close to enough in that deal from the Yankees for Cleveland to consider it.”
probably not….I was just throwing it out there to see what folks would say. I more realistic deal for Cleveland would probably need Sanchez plus another of the Yanks top 5 guys and a big league pitcher to boot…..
maxwell is interesting but he’s always injured. i wouldnt give up much of anything to get him, but wouldnt mind having him back in camp this year.
“I’m tired of the Yankees giving away the future, for a few stop gap players.”
Santana wouldn’t be a stop gap….he’s a long term solution.
OT – MTU, because you made mention of the Mayan prediction on numerous occasions, this one is for you. Although the day is young, I am guessing that what I have predicted all along will end up trumping the Mayan prediction: our venues will be the same tomorrow as they are today.
The real winners in this are the Mayans, who will not age at all beyond today. That’s not a bad deal!!!
And as a continued celebration of life, I introduce you to those who bring the greatest joy to my life, despite their Suxian bent – my siblings. (Picture was taken when my brother was alive.) I definitely bring up the rear in terms of cuteness factor, IMHO.
http://public.fotki.com/trisha.....lings.html
Continuing toward December 25th!
I always liked Justin Christian as a 4th OF’er.
blake December 21st, 2012 at 7:55 am
“I would not….the Yanks need to keep their top prospects or they will never get out of this cycle of having to overpay for free agents”
Yea ….I’m not saying your wrong….I was just throwing it out there. Devils advocate though…. Santana is only 26 and controlled contract wise for awhile……Sanchez may have more upside but if he just became what Santana is now that’d be awesome…..
Id probably make that trade just because you’d be trading a prospect good catcher for a current good one who is only 26….however I understand your viewpoint.
Mac,
You’re right…. I should just give up
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I suggested this weeks ago. I would, for the reason you mentioned, you basically get Sanchez in advance, not that they are exactly the same. But I’m with AAA, you would probably need to include more to get Santana, and I don’t know if the Indians would trade him at all. It’s hard to see what the Indians are trying to accomplish.
Have to go.
McGehee BTW is going to be playing in Japan.
Predictions for some of the remaining FA’s, subject to change at any moment.
Swisher or Ross will be signed by the Rangers.
Soriano will end up with a one year deal and go to Toronto, if the Tigers don’t step in.
LaRoche will end up back in Washington
Bourn-No clue, but his dismal numbers the 2nd half of 2012 might only get this Boras client a year.
Lohse-also no clue, but Shaun Marcum would be cheaper and probably give you the same numbers for the next year or two.
Will check back later.
Have a great day. Still a few days left before XMAS, for Cashman and the Yankees to secure us fans a player or two, that will generate excitement n 2013 and beyond!!
Delmon Young makes some sense to me for an Andrew Jones role…..Don’t want him to play every day but to DH and play RF vs LHP he’d be ok on a 1 year deal…..he hit lefties pretty good and he’s only 26
I think a realistic trade for Cleveland for Santana might be more like.
Sanchez, Nova/Phelps, Mason/Heathcott/Austin. They might do that then…..and at that point I probably pass……I like Santana and he’d be a great fit for the lineup…but he’s not a great defender and really isnt’ a full time catcher..
If the Yanks didn’t have so much tied up in Tex it’d make more sense.
probably not….I was just throwing it out there to see what folks would say. I more realistic deal for Cleveland would probably need Sanchez plus another of the Yanks top 5 guys and a big league pitcher to boot…..
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Yeah, it would cost a ton. He’s 26 years old, has a career OPS+ of 127 (Johnny Bench’s was 126, Fisk 117, Carter 115) and the Tribe has the option of keeping him for the next 4 years at $18M or the next 5 at $30M.
For all saying “No, not Sanchez”, they should keep in mind the chances of Sanchez being as good as Santana are probably around 20%.
Trisha-
Thank you for sharing that.
You’re all such attractive people.
Your Parents must have been very proud.
I am sorry about your Brother. I know it must be particularly difficult around the Holidays.
And speaking of Holidays. May you enjoy them in Peace, Happiness, and good health.
Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS
girardi loves a defensive catcher. So #yanks current catching mix: cervelli, stewart, austin romine, bobby wilson. #glove
happy winter solstice everybody!
Blake-
Of course he does since he couldn’t hit his way out of a wet paper bag.
Gotta be good at something.
Explain why, Carlos Santana is worth giving up top prospects for.
In 3 ML seasons his BA is a great .247, and his CS is 27%, and this excites you, and wants you to give up, what could be some outstanding propects!
Me, I’ll keep what we have, and give Sanchez a chance to be the player I see him becoming.
Y’s-
As an optimist I can appreciate the Solstice beacause from here on out each day will bring me closer to BBQ season.
blake December 21st, 2012 at 8:41 am
Delmon Young makes some sense to me for an Andrew Jones role…..Don’t want him to play every day but to DH and play RF vs LHP he’d be ok on a 1 year deal…..he hit lefties pretty good and he’s only 26
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I like this idea
Its a double edged sword. ALot of fans will say, lets give the prospects a chance instead of trading them away all the time, but alot of those same fans don’t have the patience to go through the growing pains. A perfect example is Austin Jackson. Sure alot of fans are screamin now that Yanks should have kept him, but how would they have been reacting those first two years when he was striking out a ton and not making consistent contact? They would have been calling for Cashman’s head for not making the deal for Grandserson when he had the chance.
Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS
girardi loves a defensive catcher. So #yanks current catching mix: cervelli, stewart, austin romine, bobby wilson. #glove
Bobby wilson is the only decent glove guy of the bunch and can’t hit i think girardi is jealous of a hitting catcher.Just kidding
Ys Guy December 21st, 2012 at 8:46 am
happy winter solstice everybody!
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same to you!!!
I think my view of prospects is well known.
“keep the best. trade the rest.”
OT – MTU, thank you so much. I think my parents did a great job in many ways and one of the most important was always keeping us bonded. My brothers and sisters are all good and kind people and have incredible integrity. I’d say that’s what would make my parents the most proud. (And we are all at least a little off center, which always makes for great fun!)
It still feels strange without my brother. Last night I was making one of those funny animated cards and put 5 of us in it, and when I previewed it I couldn’t do it because it felt wrong without my brother. I still say I have 5 brothers and sisters, meaning there are 6 of us. My brother’s two children are going to be spending Christmas with us and I know it’s going to be difficult at moments – but crazy joyful at other moments and that’s what I hold onto. And you and I know our loved ones are with us all the time anyway, right?
I wish your holidays to be the same MTU, in fact I insist upon it. And we are going to ring in 2013 the same way. Looking forward to #28 in 2013. BRING ON THE POM POMS!!!
This Justin Maxwell talk reminds me just how frustrated I was when they ditched him and kept Ibanez. Raul had some valuable HRs last season, but was out WAR’d by Maxwell 2.3 to 1.1. WAR is not perfect, but it captures the fact that Maxwell was simply an all-around better player. Ibanez had some really clutch hits, which you cannot really value properly, but not can you keep expecting that to happen.
“For all saying “No, not Sanchez”, they should keep in mind the chances of Sanchez being as good as Santana are probably around 20%.”
yea I agree…..
Justin Maxwell doesn’t make much sense when we have a similar guy in Melky Mesa who could fill that role and strike out just as much. I would like to see Nunez fill the role as the righty DH on days when they don’t put him in the field against lefties. Need his lively bat and speed in the lineup.
Had A-Jax not been traded, he would have spent 1 more year in AAA, and I believe his growing pains would have been less than being thrown into CF by the Tigers, and having to mature in the ML a year before he was truly ready.
“Explain why, Carlos Santana is worth giving up top prospects for.”
26 year old….switch hitting catcher who gets on base and has power….remind you of anyone?
In 3 ML seasons his BA is a great .247, and his CS is 27%, and this excites you, and wants you to give up, what could be some outstanding propects!
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Better than Posada was at the same points in their respective careers.
Your batting average argument is ridiculous. Look at the guy’s OBP.
That said….I don’t know if I’d give up what it’d take to actually get Santana.
Thanks Trisha.
Much joy be yours.
And much, what’s the word ?, “perspicacity”.
We all can use more of that.
I don’t think it would be wise to put Delmon Young on a NYC team after he was suspended by MLB just this year for anti-Semitic remarks in NYC.
Trisha-
I almost forgot. Of course I agree. You know I believe in Eternity and the Great Beyond.
Proximo Hilo —–>
blake -
Please do not insult Posada by comparing him to Santana. Posada was not a great defensive C, but, his offense numbers were better than Santana’s. And, early in his career, Posada’s CS averaged around 32%.
Posada was not a great defensive C
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No we wasn’t. He was a below average one.
“Please do not insult Posada by comparing him to Santana. Posada was not a great defensive C, but, his offense numbers were better than Santana’s. And, early in his career, Posada’s CS averaged around 32%.”
Combined ages 25 and 26 seasons
Jorge Posada: .262 .353 .452 .805 OPS+ 110
Carlos Santana: .246 .358 .439 .797 OPS+ 124
I’m not saying Santana is Posada…..just that they are similar players.
Later folks – Y’all have a great day.
Looking forward to seeing Trenton’s team this year, as Hethcott, Flores and maybe Austin could be the starting outfield there. Also if they get off to good starts at High A, Williams and Sanchez could make it there by midseason.
jacksquat December 21st, 2012 at 9:01 am
I don’t think it would be wise to put Delmon Young on a NYC team after he was suspended by MLB just this year for anti-Semitic remarks in NYC.
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I forgot about that…..you’re right
Tackelberry December 21st, 2012 at 9:06 am
Looking forward to seeing Trenton’s team this year, as Hethcott, Flores and maybe Austin could be the starting outfield there. Also if they get off to good starts at High A, Williams and Sanchez could make it there by midseason.
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I heard that Austin might start the year in Tampa too……
Derek Jeter Class Act on and off the field, young players of all sports take notice.