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Ross lands in Arizona; Ibanez generating outside interest

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 22, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The top right-handed outfielder is now off the market.

Cody Ross has signed a three-year deal with the Diamondbacks, and it’s reportedly worth $26 million with an option for a fourth year. With that contract, the Yankees were clearly never in the market. They’ll still go hunting for a right-handed bat, but Ross was too high of a commodity.

As for a left-handed bat, the Yankees have acknowledged discussions with Raul Ibanez, and today the New York Post reports that the Mariners have “serious interest” in Raul Ibanez. It was previously reported that Ibanez wants to choose a team fairly soon, and he came up through the Seattle system. Could be a fit if he’s interested in going back.

The Yankees have plenty of left-handed outfielders as it is, but the current market is so thin that Ibanez still looks like one of the better DH options out there.

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73 Responses to “Ross lands in Arizona; Ibanez generating outside interest”

  1. dc in el cerrito December 22nd, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    Since the Dbacks have signed Cody Ross, maybe the Yanks could trade Grandy for Upton?

  2. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    The Red Sox are moving closer to a trade for Joel Hanrahan, reports ESPN Boston’s Gordon Edes. One source cautioned there is “still work to be done,” however. It’s unclear what the Pirates would get in return for their closer.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#gch8Z6b5jbs9Odfe.99

  3. Locke December 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Don’t leave Raul!

  4. Ys Guy December 22nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    so i hop in the car to run over quickly and pick up some salsa ranchero for my huevos rancheros and wfan is on the car radio and it’s some kid talking about the blue jays. but ed coleman keeps asking him questions….turns out it was alex anthopolous, who really sounds like a teenager.

    it was pretty interesting, jmills will like it im sure if he’s around:
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/?p.....cid=CBS.NY

  5. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: There is no kubel trade yet for AZ. But ross agreement gives them options. Sure teams will try to run again at upton

    Trade for Morse

  6. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Hanrahan will help the Sox pen

  7. tucker December 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    The options for RH bats are dwindling. Hairston appears to have enough demand and will require at least a two-year deal.

    Demon Young is coming off a mediocre year and is still pretty young. Would he accept a one-year deal in order to rebuild his value?

    The guy crushes lefty pitching and loves hitting at the stadium. He is a liability in the field, but would he be any worse than Raul Ibanez was last year?

    As the clock ticks and more teams sign FA outfielders, Delmon Young’s opportunities narrow. He may be forced to take a one-year deal …. A drawback for the Yanks may be the inability to give him enough at bats to re-establish his value. He will want to be a primary DH and/or starting LF for a club.

  8. William Buckner December 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    Is it me or does Boston seem to collect marginal relief pitchers?

    And I thought Raul came up through KC and was later delt to Seattle?

  9. Ys Guy December 22nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    delmon young in ny is a no-go. the yankees are not going to insult a major portion of their fanbase and bring in a loose cannon to fill a backup roll.

  10. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    In your opinion, does Gardner have a future with the Yanks after he hits FA?

  11. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: There is no kubel trade yet for AZ. But ross agreement gives them options. Sure teams will try to run again at upton

  12. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    @Buster_ESPN: Arizona is, in fact, working to trade an outfielder, in the aftermath of the Ross deal. Kubel is regarded as the most likely guy to be dealt

  13. kd December 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    hanahan will help the pen. but the red sox are still two to three starters away from being a competitive team.

    stoneburner,

    gardner is valuable because he’s cheap. but if he starts hitting .300 that’s an entirely different story. lot’s of teams want him for his defense and speed. his trade value is high right now

  14. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    via mlb 2012 prospect watch:

    Scouts swarmed to Connecticut to see first-rounders George Springer and Matt Barnes in 2011, and in the process they got a nice long look at UConn’s shortstop. The more they saw Ahmed, the more they liked him. He’s the kind of player whose tools might not jump out right away, but the way he plays the game grows on you the more you see him. An athletic middle infielder, he can make all the plays at shortstop with a very strong arm. It remains to be seen how much he’ll hit, but he handles the bat well, has shown he can steal some bases and does anything to help his team win.

    via BA:

    Best Defensive Infielder for Braves: Nick Ahmed

  15. Ys Guy December 22nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    2 more seasons before they have to worry about gardner’s free agency. plenty of time for that to be determined.

  16. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    The Return of Stoneburner says:
    December 22, 2012 at 1:56 pm
    In your opinion, does Gardner have a future with the Yanks after he hits FA?

    No….not sure he will be a Yankee even that long

  17. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Had the Yanks been able to replace Granderspn in the lineup….,Amhed was one of the players I had been saying they should target from the braves

  18. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    kd December 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    stoneburner,

    gardner is valuable because he’s cheap. but if he starts hitting .300 that’s an entirely different story. lot’s of teams want him for his defense and speed. his trade value is high right now

    *****

    I guess what I am saying is – in your opinion – do you see him as having a future past the 2014 season with the Yanks when he hits free agency? Also – does his potential making 4 millionish going into the 2014 season via arbitration factor into anything??

  19. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    The Return of Stoneburner says:
    December 22, 2012 at 1:56 pm
    In your opinion, does Gardner have a future with the Yanks after he hits FA?

    No….not sure he will be a Yankee even that long

    ******

    Then does it make sense to think about trading him this offseason?

  20. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    Gardner is valuable now ….because he’s cheap and because he can still fly…..the minute he loses a step and starts getting more expensive his value nose dives…..considering he’s 30 already next year may be his peak value both to the team and in the trade market

  21. tucker December 22nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    I’m not sure one incident is going to color the Perception of young. An apology, alcohol counseling and a few HRs. He’s good to go.

    It’s a bit simplistic to say Jewish NY fans will not accept Young based on that drunken skirmish. In fact, several Jewish fans have been on this board and have said as much.

  22. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    “Then does it make sense to think about trading him this offseason?”

    Depends on what you’re getting for him and how you can replace him in the lineup…..it makes sense to shop him IMO yes and see what teams will offer

  23. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: #RedSox indeed close to acquiring Hanrahan from #Pirates. FIrst reported by @gordonedes.

  24. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    Gardner is valuable now ….because he’s cheap and because he can still fly…..the minute he loses a step and starts getting more expensive his value nose dives…..considering he’s 30 already next year may be his peak value both to the team and in the trade market

    ******

    But what if he were to make 4-5 million in arbitration going into 2014 (probably more like 4 million) – does that change anything? That’s just 1 million less than all these right handed OFers we are turning down now. Is Gardner going to be worth it for 4 million going into 2014?

  25. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    Depends on what you’re getting for him and how you can replace him in the lineup…..it makes sense to shop him IMO yes and see what teams will offer

    *****

    If I am Frank Wren and then you’re Cash$ – if I offered you Ahmed and Delgado for Gardner would you bite? Would you insist on Teheran?

  26. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    “But what if he were to make 4-5 million in arbitration going into 2014 (probably more like 4 million) – does that change anything? That’s just 1 million less than all these right handed OFers we are turning down now. Is Gardner going to be worth it for 4 million going into 2014?”

    Yea well worth that….he will probably make more than that though if he has a healthy and good 2013

  27. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: #RedSox indeed close to acquiring Hanrahan from #Pirates. FIrst reported by @gordonedes.

    ******

    Come on Matt Barnes or Jackie Bradley going to the Pirates (i know not realistic and I am not even going to bring up their top stud prospect Xavier) – - – -

  28. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    “If I am Frank Wren and then you’re Cash$ – if I offered you Ahmed and Delgado for Gardner would you bite? Would you insist on Teheran?”

    I don’t know if Id do that deal for Gardner…..if they added another good outfielder first then I might because AMhed “could ” solve SS and Delgado has more upside than Nova IMO…..so I might ….but Id need to see how they could replace Garnder for 2013 first

  29. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    It’ll probably be noodle bat Iglesias to the pirates

  30. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    @JimBowdenESPNxm: Source involved in trade talks with Pirates-Red Sox “just not close enough yet” to give names

  31. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    “But what if he were to make 4-5 million in arbitration going into 2014 (probably more like 4 million) – does that change anything? That’s just 1 million less than all these right handed OFers we are turning down now. Is Gardner going to be worth it for 4 million going into 2014?”

    Yea well worth that….he will probably make more than that though if he has a healthy and good 2013

    *****

    I guess – a lot of this depends on speculation at this point – but IF Heathcott excels in AA (that is where is starting according to Newman’s remarks to Chad) – I think a year from now we could be saying wow i wish we could have dealt Gardner for two years of control rather than having him one year from FA taking up some coin on the 2014 roster heading on the wrong side of 30 and teams may not want to pony up that much with just one year left til FA – but in my scenario a lot depends on (1) how Heathcott does in 2013 and (2) who you replace Gardner with in 2013 – - – -

  32. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    I don’t know if Id do that deal for Gardner…..if they added another good outfielder first then I might because AMhed “could ” solve SS and Delgado has more upside than Nova IMO…..so I might ….but Id need to see how they could replace Garnder for 2013 first

    *******

    Would you feel more comfortable if you could flip Nova for the Gardner replacement – - – -

  33. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    @JimBowdenESPNxm: Source involved in trade talks with Pirates-Red Sox “just not close enough yet” to give names

    *****

    Seriously – the Pirates needs to ask for a nice return. They already asking for crazy moon prices for Garrett Jones (who I would like as a replacement for Ibanez) – - – -

  34. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    “I guess – a lot of this depends on speculation at this point – but IF Heathcott excels in AA (that is where is starting according to Newman’s remarks to Chad) – I think a year from now we could be saying wow i wish we could have dealt Gardner for two years of contro”

    I agree….but you gotta get a good return

  35. PacoDooley December 22nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Locke December 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
    Don’t leave Raul!
    —————————–

    Why not – he hit some memorable home runs, but was otherwise not very good. His ca. 1.4 WAR is a good indicator that he was not a major contributor. He was added to the roster in place of Maxwell out of ST and that was likely a mistake…

  36. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    “Would you feel more comfortable if you could flip Nova for the Gardner replacement – – – -”

    Depends on who it is…..

    Would I do this deal:?

    Yanks get: Morse , Delgado, Ahmed
    Nats get: Nova
    Braves get : Gardner

    maybe…..

  37. CompassRosy December 22nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    “And I thought Raul came up through KC and was later delt to Seattle?”

    ~

    Raul was drafted by the Mariners in 92 and was there till 2000 then signed as a free agent with the Royals then signed back with the M’s in 2003 before his Phillies and Yanks contracts.

  38. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Yanks get: Morse , Delgado, Ahmed
    Nats get: Nova
    Braves get : Gardner

    maybe…..

    *******

    Now in your scenario – are you putting Morse in RF or DH? I have not watched Morse really play – but I seem to remember that some posters on here said his defense is subpar. In RF I guess you could hide him in YS.

    I also think more may need to go to the Nats – not significantly more – but if they are looking to move Espinosa in a separate deal down the road to another team – Joseph or Adams could be appealing – but I just think more than Nova would have to go – - – jmo – - – -

  39. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Raul was drafted by the Mariners in 92 and was there till 2000 then signed as a free agent with the Royals then signed back with the M’s in 2003 before his Phillies and Yanks contracts.

    *****

    Are ready for possibly welcoming Raul the proverbial son Ibanez home?

  40. tucker December 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    I know Nova showed uneven results. He grows mid-90s and hitters square up his pitches, which suggests a lack of deception. But I like his work ethic and his competiveness even more so. Yes, those are intangibles, but I like the kid. Still think he has a chance to improve. I’d rather they keep Nova and instead shop Hughes (just one year left on his contract and likely too expensive to retain.)

  41. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    “Now in your scenario – are you putting Morse in RF or DH? I have not watched Morse really play – but I seem to remember that some posters on here said his defense is subpar. In RF I guess you could hide him in YS.”

    Probably in RF where he is bad….but to me the offensive upgrade might be worth it considering you’re also getting a good SS prospect…..obviously Id love to add another outfielder too and make morse te DH

  42. BoJo December 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Give Travis hafner a make-good deal and invite to ST. I have a feeling he is due for a big comeback.

  43. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    I like this idea of Ahmed from the Braves – I know Blake came up with the idea first.

    Delgado as a middle starter – the way I see it – Yanks have money for a big ticket no. 2 in their 2014 rotation – whether it be via FA in Hughes, Garza, Wainwright (according to mlb trade rumors), Lincencum or trade – if they are going to resign Cano. But they would need to go for pre-arb starters in slots 3-5 – could it be Delgado, Phelps, and Marshall?? Do the Yankees go affordable with slots 3-5 and make that transition just as they have quietly done with their bullpen in recent years – and upload the bulk of their starters money with slots 1 and 2?

    Ahmed could gain time in AAA in 2014 by then – I believe he was in A ball in 2012 but had a good showing in AFL – possibly take over for Jeter after the 2014 season – - – -

  44. tucker December 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Throws mid 90s , not grows mid 90a

  45. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Probably in RF where he is bad….but to me the offensive upgrade might be worth it considering you’re also getting a good SS prospect…..obviously Id love to add another outfielder too and make morse te DH

    *******

    What is your opinion of Gerardo Parra?

  46. Tar December 22nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Don’t trade Gardner

    Gardner is going to put it all together this year. In this case I think a year older and wiser is going to help GGBG.

    He’s going to exploit that 5.5 hole. He’s going to be more aggressive on the base paths. He’s going to perfect the art of bunting. He will take over the leadoff position.

    IF he stays healthy Gardner will hit over .300.

    That’s my bold prediction for the day.

  47. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    “What is your opinion of Gerardo Parra?”

    Meh….

  48. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    “IF he stays healthy Gardner will hit over .300.”

    I don’t know about that…. But I think he could get on base over 35% of the time and if he does that he’s probably a 4+ WAR player

  49. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Would you go Ahmed and this guy http://www.baseball-reference......rdos001jos ?

  50. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    If the Yanks trade Granderson or Gardner then they need to target SS or 3B prospects unless the deal is for a big league player to replace them…..

  51. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    The Return of Stoneburner says:
    December 22, 2012 at 2:43 pm
    Would you go Ahmed and this guy http://www.baseball-reference……rdos001jos ?

    I don’t know much about him….Fransico is probably available

  52. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    @DKnobler: Red Sox definitely moving towards deal for Hanrahan. Iglesias will not be in deal.

  53. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Some have wondered if the Rangers could be players for Kubel if they can’t come to terms on a long-rumored deal for Upton. Kubel is set to earn $7.5MM in 2013 with a mutual option for the same amount in 2014, significantly less than the $38.5MM owed to Upton through ’15.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#TMeGC8k85g0qEKEE.99

  54. Tar December 22nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    “I don’t know about that…. But I think he could get on base over 35% of the time and if he does that he’s probably a 4+ WAR player”

    He’s got the eye with bat control and just enough bat speed to be a “Gwynn light”. I’ve seen little snippets of it from him, but never has he put it all together for any extended length of time. And I don’t use the Gwynn reference lightly, I spent a lot of time in SD during Tony’s heyday and watched him a lot. Gardner can replicate that approach with good results. (disclaimer Of course i’m not saying that GGBG is TG, just that he can use that same model to become more successful).

  55. Ys Guy December 22nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    “Tar December 22nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Don’t trade Gardner

    Gardner is going to put it all together this year. ”
    ————————————————-
    i agree i think this is going to be gardner’s bust-out year! Don’t be shocked if he leaves camp as the leadoff hitter and CF.

  56. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    2013 break-in possibles at some point during the season: Romine, Montgomery, Adams, Marshall, Whitley, Mustelier

    2014 break-in possibles at some point during the season: Heathcott, Flores, Turley

  57. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    @joe_sheehan: Dear #Yankees: Jason Kubel is better than Raul Ibanez, and may well be available. 602-462-6500. Ask for KT.

    So long as they face no lefties next year that’d be great….morse makes more sense

  58. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    morse makes more sense

    ******

    Say that five times real fast – - – -also could be a slogan for a t-shirt – - – -

  59. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    I do like Kubel…..but I think if he’s available (they have to sign Laraoche first) and the prices are similar then Morse fits a lot better to me….LHP is gonna kill this lineup as it is unless Tex and Youk really bounce back

  60. UpState December 22nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Mr. Morse must make more sense.

  61. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Morse could DH vs all pitchers and if you wanted to play him in RF against some lefties and DH Jeter or Nunez then you could……he really would even things out

  62. UpState December 22nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Jeff Baker (ATL).
    Yankees looking at him ?
    Why?
    Based on 2006 season in MiLB ?

    Pathetic option.

  63. jackamir December 22nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Gardner is the first to go. Nova second and we could package Nunez and the pack of overhyped prospects for Kubel or Upton. Make it happen even if you have to relinquish Hughes …….

  64. UpState December 22nd, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Maybe…

    Grandel (SD) backup catcher will be 24.

    Anyone know about him ?

  65. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    UpState says:
    December 22, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    Maybe…

    Grandel (SD) backup catcher will be 24.

    Anyone know about him ?”

    Good prospect….just got caught for PEDs though

  66. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @JeffPassan: Source: Rangers not pursuing Jason Kubel. Things could change, of course, but interest not presently there.

  67. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    @JimBowdenESPNxm: Diamondbacks best fit for a Kubel trade? Braves (LF) Orioles (DH) Mets (LF) Phillies (LF) Indians (LF/DH)?

  68. UpState December 22nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    blake December 22nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    UpState says:
    December 22, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    Maybe…

    Grandel (SD) backup catcher will be 24.

    Anyone know about him ?”

    Good prospect….just got caught for PEDs though

    ================================

    Might well be another “Melky the Idiot” scenario….to bad.

    Thanks for the update.

  69. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    @JimBowdenESPNxm: The Red Sox- Pirates deal is NOT completed though according to Pirates source but in final stages

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