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The 25-man roster as it is today

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 22, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

This is the last weekend before Christmas, which means it’s probably time to expect a quiet offseason to grow silent for a few days. It’s not a given — something could happen in these next few days — but it seems like a fair time to take a look at where the roster stands.  

One year ago, the Yankees still had Jesus Montero as their projected designated hitter. They had A.J. Burnett in the rotation, Ivan Nova projected as their No. 2 starter, and a guy named Brad Meyers was still in the mix for the bullpen.

A little less than two months ago, Alex Rodriguez was still the starting third baseman, Chris Dickerson was the best option in right field and Adam Warren was penciled into the rotation.

Here’s a potential 25-man roster, based on players under contract today.

LINEUP
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Derek Jeter SS
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Curtis Granderson LF
Kevin Youkilis 3B
Brett Gardner CF
Eduardo Nunez DH
Austin Romine C

I’m still guessing that Gardner will shift to center field next season, and think it’s entirely possible that we’ll see Nunez playing some part in the DH situation (though do I think the Yankees will sign someone to take most of those at-bats). I also expect the Yankees to sign some sort of veteran catcher at some point — at least a non-roster invite just to compete for the job — but if they do stay in-house, my mind has shifted a few times between expecting Romine to get the job and expecting one of the defensive backups to get it.

BENCH
Chris Stewart C
Jayson Nix INF
Chris Dickerson OF
Ronnier Mustelier 3B/OF

Even though he doesn’t hit right-handed, Dickerson seems to be the clear option for the fourth outfielder right now. But I’m sure that’ll change. As for Mustelier, I still don’t have a good feel for just how seriously the Yankees would take him as a big league option out of spring training. He’s a right-handed hitter who can play the corners — which means he could have some value on this roster — but it’s a matter of the Yankees believing he can handle the job defensively and offensively. He’s never so much as been invited to big league camp.

ROTATION
CC Sabathia
Hiroki Kuroda
Andy Pettitte
Phil Hughes
Ivan Nova

This is the biggest change since I last did this sort of “as it is today” post. By re-signing Kuroda and Pettitte, the Yankees have essentially locked up their top four starters. The fifth spot should be a competition between Nova and David Phelps. There’s a solid chance that I’m giving it Nova right now largely because Phelps seems to be the more natural fit in the bullpen. If Phelps proves he’s better in spring training, I don’t think the Yankees would hesitate to go with him.

BULLPEN
Mariano Rivera
Dave Robertson
Joba Chamberlain
Boone Logan
David Aardsma
Clay Rapada
David Phelps

Assuming Phelps doesn’t land in the rotation, I would actually consider these seven to be pretty heavy favorites for the Opening Day bullpen. Cody Eppley was good last year, but he has options remaining. Cesar Cabral could compete for a spot, but he might not be healthy in time to break camp. The biggest unknown here is probably Aardsma. His track record is strong, but he didn’t have time to show much last season when he was coming back from Tommy John. He and Chamberlain could be the make-or-break pieces that determine whether the Yankees have a dominant bullpen or have to go searching for mid-season help.

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94 Responses to “The 25-man roster as it is today”

  1. Mike Ri December 22nd, 2012 at 9:12 am

    With the Team as is …….. we’ll be fighting for that one game wild card .,,,,,,,,,,

  2. 86w183 December 22nd, 2012 at 9:19 am

    That is as bad looking a bench as I can remember.

    With strong starting pitching a 6-man bullpen and an extra bench player makes more sense.

    Send Phelps or Nova in a package for Morse and re-sign Ibanez and that team looks a whole lot better.

    Or just sign Ibanez and Cody Ross. If Ross is seeking just $ 25 M over three years do it. That’s pretty los risk for 2014 if he’s worth keeping and he could still be traded after 2013 since it willbe a reasonable 2-year contract you’re moving.

  3. MaineYankee December 22nd, 2012 at 9:20 am

    Chad

    Are you the only writer working?

    I don’t see any tweets from anyone else.

  4. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 9:21 am

    @JonHeymanCBS: #yankees looking for righthanded hitters. Among options are vernon wells, scott hairston and jeff baker. Plus #others

    Exciting

  5. MaineYankee December 22nd, 2012 at 9:25 am

    blake December 22nd, 2012 at 9:21 am
    @JonHeymanCBS: #yankees looking for righthanded hitters. Among options are vernon wells, scott hairston and jeff baker. Plus #others

    Exciting

    —————————————————–

    Are those all Boras clients?

  6. Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 9:27 am

    blake December 22nd, 2012 at 9:21 am

    @JonHeymanCBS: #yankees looking for righthanded hitters. Among options are vernon wells, scott hairston and jeff baker. Plus #others

    Exciting

    ————————

    Oh this train… oh this train…

  7. austinmac December 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Since I knew nothing about him I looked up Baker’s stats. Another really awful option. Does the right handed OF/DH have to be terrible? Baker and Wells will make the team worse, not better.

  8. Keith--PA....no longer FL December 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Can Granderson and Nova get us a Catcher in a trade and then we sign Michael Bourne for CF and leadoff, Jeter 2nd, Ichiro 3rd???? That should help the offense get going for Cano, Tex, and Youk 4,5, and 6….after watching the low RISP average all season and playoffs hitting debacle that should be worth a try….

  9. austinmac December 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 am

    86w183,

    I agree Ross is clearly the best option, but three years? I don’t think he is even on the radar.

  10. 86w183 December 22nd, 2012 at 9:43 am

    Baker is an upgrade on Jayson Nix but not much more.

    Hairston is a good fit. Just give him the damn 2nd year, its not like he’s be hard to trade if you wanted to.

    Wells does interest me, assuming the Angels pick up about $ 35-40 M of the $ 42 M he’s got coming over the next two years. He’s still young enough (34) to return to being a productive hitter.

    He did have an .847 OPS just two years ago and has a career .836 OPS against LHP.

  11. austinmac December 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 am

    All options for trades are possible if, and only if, they would trade for someone that is due money in 2014. That restriction limits everything.

  12. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Assuming Laroache signs back with the Nats…..they need to trade for Morse.

    RH power bat that doesn’t have a platoon split that could DH full time and play RF vs LhP and back up 1B…..he’s perfect if the price isn’t crazy

  13. mick December 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Nothing wrong with that roster but who goes when we get Ibanez?

  14. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Ichiro RF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2B
    Tex 1b
    Morse DH
    Granderson LF
    Youk 3B
    Romine C
    Gardner CF

    That’s a pretty good lineup

  15. austinmac December 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am

    I have tried to get on board with Wells as I remember him as a pretty good player, but then his last two year stats a are pretty bad. For the right finances, I would pick him before Baker who has never been any good.

    Hairston or Ross are better. Hairston, I believe, had his career year. Still better than either of the other named options.

  16. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Hairston is a platoon bat that doesn’t get on base…I guess he’s fine if they can’t get anything else but morse would really balance the lineup out….he hits both handed pitchers….and he’s only 30.

    He was a .900 OPS bat the last time he played a full season in 2011.

  17. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 am

    @JonHeymanCBS: Scott Hairston tougher fit for #yanks since at moment have 3 starting OFs. Phillies, braves, mets, #others also in play

  18. Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 9:58 am

    I’m really assuming the mention of Wells was tongue in cheek lol… gotta be.

    …..right?!

  19. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:00 am

    Morse is a lifetime .292 hitter with .830 OPS vs RHP and .303 with an .860 OPS vs LHP.

    That’s what they need…..not another platoon guy that can’t get on base and only hits homers

  20. DONNYBROOK December 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 am

    I would NOT touch Wells. The Yanks already have this Same problem with A-Rod, so why compound it by adding Wells??? Even if Wells is practically Free, your jamming the 25 Man Roster with another Non-Productive Albatross. NOPE

  21. GregD December 22nd, 2012 at 10:03 am

    Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 9:58 am
    I’m really assuming the mention of Wells was tongue in cheek lol… gotta be.

    …..right?!

    ——————————
    I assume too unless he plays for free…..

  22. Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 10:05 am

    I like Morse a lot… like I said earlier though, I’m just worried if he costs us a controlled starting pitcher it’s not worth it. Does Morse put this team over the edge?

  23. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:05 am

    “——————————
    I assume too unless he plays for free…..”

    I’m not sure Id give him a roster spot for free to be honest ….

  24. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:06 am

    “Does Morse put this team over the edge?”

    I think he’d make the lineup potentially significantly better and more balanced…..so yea he could

  25. GregD December 22nd, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 10:05 am
    I like Morse a lot… like I said earlier though, I’m just worried if he costs us a controlled starting pitcher it’s not worth it. Does Morse put this team over the edge?

    ——————————-
    We really don’t have any starting pitching to give up….without making this team weaker and seriously weakening our play off chances……..would you trade Nunez for him?

  26. 86w183 December 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am

    How on earth can you compare A-Rod… five more years @ $ 114 M at age 38 with Wells who has two years on his contract which the Yanks would pay virtually none of and is just 34?

    Wells hardly played last year. He was not good in 2011, but was very productive in 2010. His career versus LHP is very good. He would fill a need. Not my first choice, but a better option than Jayson Nix or Jeff Baker.

  27. 86w183 December 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 am

    As with all acquisitions the issue is cost. I suggested Wells because I believe he would cost virtually nothing.

    I’d much prefer they acquire Josh Willingham, but the cost there would be something like Nova, Nunez and a prime prospect or two.

  28. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 am

    ——————————-
    We really don’t have any starting pitching to give up….without making this team weaker and seriously weakening our play off chances……..would you trade Nunez for him?

    They could give Nova and really lose nothing IMO….slot in Phelps or Marshall in the 5 spot or try to sign Saunders or Jair or something

  29. Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am

    We do have starting pitching to give up in theory.. you can deal Nova or Phelps for him, Andy will get injured, sure, but I guess you just hope Pineda/Warren/or some other warm body can hold things down if you do move one.

    But I still don’t like the idea of moving a young starter that we will have in 2014 for one year of Morse when this team is clearly not going for it this year. They haven’t upgraded any other hole.. I like Morse a lot I just don’t know that he makes up for that.

    If they do it, at least it’ll show a pulse though… I’m undecided on this one I guess.

  30. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am

    “Can Granderson and Nova get us a Catcher in a trade and then we sign Michael Bourne for CF and leadof”

    They probably can’t get you a good catcher and the Yanks won’t pay Bourn….nor should they

  31. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am


    But I still don’t like the idea of moving a young starter that we will have in 2014 for one year of Morse when this team is clearly not going for it this year. They haven’t upgraded any other hole.. I like Morse a lot I just don’t know that he makes up for that.”

    Depends on what you see Nova as and how competitve you think they can be in 2014 anyway…..

    Personally I see Nova as a fairly replaceable back end guy and I think 2013 may be the last shot for a title in awhile…..so Id do it and go for it next year

  32. DONNYBROOK December 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Wells “just 34″? HAHAHAHA. You gotta be on the Moreno payroll. I would pay the freight, and go with 2 yrs of Hairston. Again, Yanks missed-the-boat on Revere. He woulda been a short and long-term solution.

  33. GregD December 22nd, 2012 at 10:21 am

    blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 am
    ——————————-
    We really don’t have any starting pitching to give up….without making this team weaker and seriously weakening our play off chances……..would you trade Nunez for him?

    They could give Nova and really lose nothing IMO….slot in Phelps or Marshall in the 5 spot or try to sign Saunders or Jair or something
    ——————–
    I respectively disagree…….they need both Phelps and Nova……..and Marshall and perhaps more……..it takes about 7-8 starters to get thru the year with injuries

  34. DONNYBROOK December 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 am

    I would deal Nova. His mouth far exceeds his performance, and the distance between the 2 is only gonna expand with time.

  35. Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 am

    blake – I hear ya, I just don’t know that the additions of Youk and Morse are ‘going for it.’

    If we took our line up right now and went position by position and asked if we’d get more, less, or similar production from that spot in 2013 as we did in 2012, how many spots would you realistically say we’d get more from?

    You’re very likely not getting more production from Jeter, Arod, Andy, Ichiro and whoever is at C.

    You should get more production from Gardner, Cano (splits wise) and Hughes.

    Kuroda, CC, and Tex should all be pushes… Grandy too most likely.

  36. Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 am

    1B – push
    2B – more
    3B – less
    SS – less
    C – less
    RF – less
    CF – push
    LF – more

    …I think that’s how it looks.

    DH is a bit of a mystery.

  37. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 am

    “I respectively disagree…….they need both Phelps and Nova……..and Marshall and perhaps more……..it takes about 7-8 starters to get thru the year with injuries”

    That’s fine and you might be right…I just think given they need to win now I think Nova is replaceable enough to deal him for Morse if that’d get it done

  38. Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 10:29 am

    Actually I meant to put Andy in the push category lol..

    CC – more
    Hughes – more
    Kuroda – push
    Andy – push
    Nova – god willing more, probably a push
    Phelps – ?
    Pineda – ?

  39. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am

    “blake – I hear ya, I just don’t know that the additions of Youk and Morse are ‘going for it.’”

    You put Morse in the lineup and it’s pretty good….rotation is pretty good…. Bullpen is pretty good…..they’d have a better shot than they do currently.

  40. DONNYBROOK December 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Obviously, Cano is the best trade chip the Yanks got. Yanks should move him, to better the roster now and going forward. The Yankee FO has Mentally paralyzed itself with the restrictions of 1yr contracts, and getting under $189 Mill. They currently are incapable of considering Anything outside of these parameters. Ichiro was signed for 2yrs due to the Huge International $$$ he generates. That signing was Largely a $$$ motivated signing. It had little to do with the actual team on the field.

  41. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 am

    I don’t wanna sound like I hate Nova…. Cause I don’t…. I just think he’s gonna be the type pitcher you can replace rather cheaply either from within or even in free agency.

  42. 86w183 December 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Well on a team that has Ichiro, A-Rod, Jeter, Pettitte and Mariano “only” 34 seems completely appropriate way to describe Vernon Wells.

    Hairston is a better choice, I agree, but he’s gonna probably get two years @ $ 6 M whereas Wells would cost a fraction of that (or I wouldn’t take him).

    The Yanks are neither “rebuilding” nor “transitioning” nor “going for it” in 2013, they are simply treading water. They are fielding a team comparable to 2012 in talent and cost… with added age cuz we all know they needed to get older.

    It’s hard to look at a single unit on this team and think it’s better right now than it was opening day of last season.

  43. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Plus Morse is probably a guy you make the QO to and you can get a draft pick for him

  44. DONNYBROOK December 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 am

    You guys gotta stop shakin’ in your boots with Toronto. You do Not know what Baiutista is gonna come back like, that ballpark minimizes the pitching additions, and Reyes is Reyes. Showalter is gonna wear thin quickly Now, and Boston just threw All that extra cash into the wind. The Pack is coming back to the Yanks. Yanks should be working on dealing Cano, Grandy, and Nova or Hughes. Phelps being the kicker if necessary inna Blockbuster. Maybe do a Frankie on “American Pickers” and go the bundle route with these bodies.

  45. Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 10:43 am

    blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am

    …..they’d have a better shot than they do currently.

    ————–

    I do completely agree with this lol, which is why I’m torn a bit… I’d feel better about it if we had an established pitcher besides CC for 2014. And while I do agree Nova can be moved he also has been the most consistent as far as the number of innings he gives you in terms of young starters they’ve brought up. If they didn’t yoyo Phelps around last year I might feel better about it. It’s like they’re determined to shoot themselves in the foot at every turn..

  46. GregD December 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am

    It’s hard to look at a single unit on this team and think it’s better right now than it was opening day of last season.

    ——————–
    I think the pitching might be better with Pettitte for a whole season, Phelps with some experience under his belt, and the addition of Joba an Aardsma in the bullpen…….I also think Hughes can continue to get better…….if Nova makes a step forward……their pitching is solid, very solid

  47. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am

    Basically Id give Nova for a year of Morse and the high draft pick you’ll get for him

  48. DONNYBROOK December 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Pretty tough to improve on a 95 win regular season, especially if your in the AL East. Holding your own is an appropriate goal.

  49. DONNYBROOK December 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am

    STOP the draft pick baloney. That and about 1,000 Greeen Stamps will net you an ash tray.

  50. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 am

    DONNYBROOK says:
    December 22, 2012 at 10:48 am
    STOP the draft pick baloney. That and about 1,000 Greeen Stamps will net you an ash tray.

    Every GM would disagree with you

  51. David in Cal December 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am

    1B – push
    2B – more
    3B – less
    SS – less
    C – less
    RF – less
    CF – push
    LF – more

    Makes sense to me. I would have rated 2B as “push”. And, this seems a little optimistic, because it doesn’t allow for new injuries. LF is “more” only because Gardner was injured last year. It’s not that he’s expected to play any better. I don’t expect Gardner to miss most of the season, but I won’t be surprised if one of our starters has a new injury that costs him lots of playing time.

    OTOH maybe after ARod’s surgery, he’ll hit better than he did last year… Maybe with more coaching Teix’s hitting will improve…Mybe Youk will regain his youth, be a great fill-in at 3B and then a great DH…

  52. ghastly December 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Nice…Now that we have gone in the way-back machine and arrived at 2008…Ye Gods, what drek..

  53. Tar December 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Romine has basically zero MLB experience. He hardly played last year (103 AB’s) in the minors.

    I really doubt the Yankees are going to give him the job. This is not a re-building year, so let’s start our first round pick (4th :wink: ) kind of situation. The Yankees feel like they can compete for a post-season spot. A rookie with zero experience?

    Hope I’m wrong and the Yankees first, give him a shot and second he thrives. But I doubt it on both counts.

  54. DONNYBROOK December 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 am

    If I am weighing the Yanks production, position for position, I would be spooked Most at CF. Grandy the last couple months was a MESS. Throw in his questionable defense, and you got a Serious ?

  55. Shame Spencer December 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 am

    The only reason I rated 2B as more is because I’m hoping his production against LHP improves to his normal splits. Last year was, hopefully, just a flukey thing.

  56. DONNYBROOK December 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Knowing the type of hitter Girardi was, I would believe he would be in favor of giving Romine his blessing in 2013 as the Yankee back stop. ALL you need outta the catcher offensively is a guy that can make Productive outs. ANYTHING else offensivley is gravy.

  57. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 11:11 am

    “Knowing the type of hitter Girardi was, I would believe he would be in favor of giving Romine his blessing in 2013 as the Yankee back stop. ALL you need outta the catcher offensively is a guy that can make Productive outs. ANYTHING else offensivley is gravy.”

    The last 4 teams that have won the WS have had

    Jorge posada, Buster posey, Yadier Molina, and Buster posey behind the plate.

  58. Duh Innings II December 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Um, say this was the 2013 Yankees Opening Day roster.

    It will not look like that in June or July after a trade or two or three plus a waiver-wire pickup or signing of a released player.

    The pitching is the best in the division and one of the best in baseball. We have one of the best 1-2 rotation punches in baseball and yeah, the best closer in the game / that ever lived and Robertson would be a closer for many teams.

    Stewart is fine as the backup catcher – he was the backup catcher last year and the Yanks went all the way to the ALCS. Nix is a non-issue with Cano and Jeter playing 2B and SS almost every day and Mustelier backing up at 3B (this guy intrigues me as he’s torn it up with the bat at every minor-league level.) Dickerson is solid defensively. Let’s see how these guys play out to start the season. They can always be replaced via trade, waiver wire, and release.

    The starting nine could use a bat or two. Let’s see what Nunez and Romine can do. All I care about Nunez is his BA, OBP, and SB. I’d be thrilled with him if he posts the .280 BA, .350 OBP, and 25 SB through the first half of the season I think he’s capable of. I’d be thrilled with .230 BA and .320 OBP with 7 HR and 25 RBI through the first half from Romine (a 14 HR 50 RBI pace, only 3 less RBI than Martin’s 2012 total, big deal we lose 7 HR – maybe Stewart hits 3 HR instead of the one he hit last season for 17 total HR by the 2013 Yankees catcher and only 5 less than 2012 Martin-Stewart.)

  59. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 am

    @mlbtraderumors: Mariners Have “Serious Interest” In Raul Ibanez http://t.co/bJwWHowq #mlb

  60. Georgia_in_MS December 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am

    I sure hate we lost Russell Martin.

  61. jacksquat December 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Come on down Chris Dickerson.

  62. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    @mbonzo31 Yea, it’s unlikely all these OF prospects make it to the big show but Yankees should hope that a few make it.

    9h Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    Toolsy but the bat is suspect at MLB level. RT @NataliaYank2530 what about Mesa?

    10h Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    Would be pretty fun for all the farm lovers to see an OF trio of Flores, Heathcott, Austin in a few years.

    10h Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    @SchindlerJesse I think Flores is a future corner OF. Especially with Mason Williams/Heathcott in the system.

    10h Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    @mbonzo31 Corban Joseph has a solid bat. But as an infielder he needs to step it up to get to the next level.

    10h Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    @SchindlerJesse Flores has an advanced batting eye and his instincts are superb. He isn’t the most athletic player but smart.

    10h Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    Like Ramon Flores because he could be a Bobby Abreu type of player with less fear of walls.

    10h Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    Don’t see where Joseph fits because his D is suspect but Flores is another high ceiling guy. RT @mbonzo31 Ramon Flores? Corban Joseph?

    10h Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
    Q: Jose Ramirez going to have a huge season? A: He definitely has the stuff to do that. Filthy.

  63. vitus December 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Hal is not George, his passion is nothing like his dad.
    It will take a decade or so for us to rebuild another championship team.

    Why? Because if Hal is really into it, he wouldn’t sell YES to Fox, soon he will sell Yankees to the highest bidder

  64. Against All Odds December 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Ross is a D’back

  65. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    @JimBowdenESPNxm: With the Diamondbacks signing of Cody Ross does this mean that Jason Kubel gets traded…or maybe even Justin Upton? hmmmmmm

  66. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Have to think they are dealing an outfielder now….probably Kubel

  67. Yankee Trader December 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    Blake-

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Ibanez signs with the Mariners, as the Yankees can’t juggle more than one ball this offseason, looking solely for a right handed bat- OF’er.

    If the Cubs took on 26M of the 36M left on Soriano’s bat for a decent prospect, and whatever bonus it would take to waive his NTC, might he be a cheaper option than Michael Morse[in terms of prospects], and put up similar numbers?

    Any interest in Soriano, if Morse either isn’t the Nats 1st baseman or traded elsewhere next year?

  68. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    @Buster_ESPN: D-Backs’ reported agreement with Cody Ross sets them up to move an outfielder — Jason Kubel? Texas would be a perfect fit; NYY, too.

    Kubel would be ok… But morse is a much better fit

  69. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    If Theo ate most of the money and took a b prospect for Soriano then sure…..but apparently he wants a real prospect for him and if I have to trade one of those Id rather have Morse

  70. Yankee Trader December 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    I just now noticed the 3 year deal Cody Ross got with the DBacks.

    Eaton, Kubel or Upton now traded?

    Do the DBacks need a leadoff man?

    Another starter? Hughes, Nova, Phelps?

    A reliever? Joba, Robertson?

    Gardner, Hughes, Joba and Warren for Upton and Eaton/Pollock

    Not enough?

  71. AAA December 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Gardner, Hughes, Joba and Warren for Upton and Eaton/Pollock

    Not enough?

    ============================

    Not enough is correct.

    Pollock will go back to minors. Not that good anyway.

    Kubel or Parra will be moved, IMO.

  72. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Too many cooks in the Arizona OF kitchen – Kubel would represent lefty power at around 8 million a year with a team option for next year – could free up Granderson – however do not want Kubel in the OF on full time basis – more of a DH option – jmo – - – -

  73. mick December 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    why would the yanks be interested in Soriano, a guy they once kicked to the curb for his all or nothing swing and miss approach?

    be ready for kelly shoppach as our opening day C.

  74. The Return of Stoneburner December 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Kubel to Texas does make sense since they are looking for lefty power – - – -

  75. mick December 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Hal is as stubborn as his dad was impulsive.
    He seems to be running the show with Hank all but dead and Levine in the basement.
    Nothing we can do but wait and see what 2014 brings…
    …looks like our xmas gifts will be Ibanez and Shoppach, far cry from George’s presents
    but will have to do.

  76. Yankee Trader December 22nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    MLBTRs has the link for Adam Eaton the 35 yo pitcher not the 24 yo lefty outfielder.

    Still think it’ll be Justin Upton who might be the one traded. Think there is too much “bad blood” for him to stay in Arizona.

    What would Texas need to give up to land him?

  77. mick December 22nd, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    it will be interesting how bad we might be in 2014….that will be a magic trick to win 1/2 our games. (w/out Cano).

  78. austinmac December 22nd, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    Kubel does not seem to fit with the Yankees as a left handed hitter.

  79. austinmac December 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    If the Yankees wait much longer on swinging a big Vernon Wells deal(ugh), Ibanez is going to sign in Seattle. They are keeping him in limbo.

  80. BIG AL December 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Any toughts about the Yankees re-signing Jeff Karstens as a #6 SP and a long man for the BP?

    Jeff has a 3.59 ERA over the past 2 seasons, and appears to be healthy again. His cost would be about $4 -$6 M, and has always loved the Yankees.

  81. tomingeorgia December 22nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Now is the winter of our discontent
    Made glorious summer by this sun of (New) York;
    And all the clouds that lour’d upon our house
    In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.
    Now are our brows bound with victorious wreaths;
    Our bruised arms hung up for monuments;
    Our stern alarums changed to merry meetings,
    Our dreadful marches to delightful measures.

    Any day now, any day now. . .

  82. jacksquat December 22nd, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Don’t think the Yankees will trade for Kubel unless they are moving some salary off the payroll. The payroll is right about where it was last year and I bet they don’t want to go much higher, maybe a cheap DH, cheap righthanded OF.

  83. Yankee Trader December 22nd, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Agree, Kubel would not be a good fit with the Yankees.

    .201 BA post AS game.
    Did not hit lefties well. .234 BA; .291 OB%
    .209 BA with RISP

  84. Yankee Trader December 22nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    Austinmac-

    I think Ibanez will go back to Seattle for his 3rd tour of duty. More time for Montero to catch?
    Be traded? Work out at 1st base?

    The Yankees can only focus on one need at a time.

  85. mick December 22nd, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    2014 would feature Jeter, Tex, Arod,Gardner, Ichiro, Nunez, etc…
    We could still compete with that and hope a youngster blossoms.

  86. mick December 22nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Any day now, any day now. . .

    ==================
    2/23/13 ST opener at Braves in Disney.

  87. tomingeorgia December 22nd, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Mister mick,
    In Spring Training, everything is possible to dream. Merry Christmas!

  88. mick December 22nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    mr tom…peace to y’all.

  89. austinmac December 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    The Royals compete. They just don’t win. The 2014 team is built aromd three 40 year olds. Good plan.

    They will need a half dozen youngsters to blossom.

  90. jacksquat December 22nd, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Yankee Trader December 22nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    Austinmac-

    I think Ibanez will go back to Seattle for his 3rd tour of duty. More time for Montero to catch?
    Be traded? Work out at 1st base?

    The Yankees can only focus on one need at a time.

    If they don’t sign Ibanez, it won’t be because they can only focus on one need at a time. Come on, what’s that from? Because they wanted to settle their pitching first? They had to. If they didn’t resign Kuroda and Pettitte the entire offseason plan would be different.

  91. G. Love December 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Yeah, let’s not even field a team. Let’s just throw empty uniforms out there & hope the wind fills them with Yankee Pride and they dance around the field like Michael Jackson as the Scarecrow in The Wiz!

    Now we’re down to Scott Hairston or food poisoning opposing LH starters. Considering Hairston wants more than a year, I hope Cashman has his apron on.

  92. mick December 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    2014 might be a transition year.
    End of world as you know it?

  93. mick December 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    If Hairston is the key to our season we are in trouble.
    This team is not based on platooning.
    Musteliar could be a rh bat off the bench.

  94. blake December 22nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: There is no kubel trade yet for AZ. But ross agreement gives them options. Sure teams will try to run again at upton

    Trade for Morse


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