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A new year in every way

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 01, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Welcome to 2013. Does everything feel different yet?

The Yankees have entered a fascinating new chapter, and it’s hard to remember such uncertainty hanging over this franchise. This new year brings a new way of doing things, and we’ll spend the next 12 months finding out whether the new Yankees model will work in the short-term, and whether it has any hope of working in the long-term.

Andy Pettitte and Mariano Rivera are back for one more season. Kevin Youkilis and Ichiro Suzuki are plugging holes. Robinson Cano and Curtis Granderson are heading toward free agency. Even Joe Girardi is in the final year of his contract. 

What does this group have left, and where do these guys go from here?

Alex Rodriguez’s hip, Michael Pineda’s shoulder and Derek Jeter’s ankle are all in need of rehabilitation. Mark Teixeira, Curtis Granderson and David Aardsma are each trying to rediscover old successes not long forgotten. Phil Hughes, Ivan Nova and Brett Gardner will have opportunities to define themselves as either impact players or secondary support staff.

Despite such uncertainty, the Yankees goal for the next 10 months remains the same as always.  

Beyond those next 10 months, the end of 2013 will be all about the new collective bargaining agreement, the Yankees decision to limit spending, and Brian Cashman’s task of building a contender with a significantly smaller budget. Truth be told, that big picture objective will hang over everything, from the Yankees ability to spend in the next two months, to their ability to make a splash at the trade deadline, to their ability to sign impact players in the winter.

Success or not, the fascination is inevitable.

In some ways, the Yankees new year will be fascinating for all the wrong reasons — money and injuries and significant limitations — but in other ways, it will be fascinating in every way that sports are supposed to be fascinating. Proven veteran players out to prove themselves all over again. Young players trying to make their mark. Front office executives trying to make smart moves that go beyond dollars and cents.

Welcome to 2013. Whether it feels that way or not, things are most certainly different this year

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65 Responses to “A new year in every way”

  1. randy l. January 1st, 2013 at 9:01 am

    “He and I go back to the Spaghetti Western days.”

    mtu-

    happy new year to you too

    you must be a youngster.

    i remember clint on rawhide

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLIbKCXhgAU

  2. randy l. January 1st, 2013 at 9:02 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7TGHQ5YJ7E

    even better

  3. blake January 1st, 2013 at 9:05 am

    MTU,

    The Morse deal would allow you to keep all the best prospects….and be pretty good in 2013….but doesn’t do muh for the long term.

    If I could get Upton and keep 2 of the top guys AND trade Granderson or Gardner for other needs then Id do it.

    They probably will do option D: none of the above

  4. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 9:06 am

    For the Yankees to recreate the Dynasty model they are going to have to be extraordinarily lucky.

    I’ll be happy when they get their financial edge back.

    And I agree with you Randy.

    If they wish to go the development route they should hire the best coaches, etc. Be outspending everyone in that area by leaps and bounds.

  5. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Randy-

    Don’t I wish. Yeah I remember Rawhide too.

    Everybody gets old but the spirit lives on.

    Blake-

    Yup. Most likely plan D.

    I prefer to keep Sanchez and 2 of the OF prospects.

    Not interested in extreme prospect hugging anymore than I am in totally gutting the Farm.

    Balance.

    ;)

  6. blake January 1st, 2013 at 9:14 am

    If the Nats sign Laroche then I really don’t see how Cashman can’t go after Morse

  7. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Personally I still think Hal is getting ready to sell this puppy.

    So all he’s interested in doing is putting on a good show and fattening up the steer for market.

  8. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Blake-

    Morse can hit but his D kinda sucks.

    He’s a short term solution only as you pointed out.

    Prefer they aim higher starting now.

    ;)

  9. blake January 1st, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Id make Morse the primary DH and play him in RF vs LHP….and he could back up 1B…..

  10. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Another hike day.

    Got to start getting ready.

    Goin’ for three in a row this week.

    May as well start the New Year right.

    Like McMahon said, “Got to teach this body who’s boss.”

    :)

  11. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 9:21 am

    Blake-

    That DH slot is gonna be clogged up with guys who need rest.

  12. jmills January 1st, 2013 at 9:23 am

    My favourite B-ball # was an after school playhouse film about a kid who’s pitching is directed in the backyard by a friend with cognitive challenges. The kid pitcher has to learn about his own sortcomings when it comes to acceptance of his helper amonst his other friends. Do they make them like this anymore? Nice offering akin to Harold and Maude that everybody should get a chance to see.

  13. blake January 1st, 2013 at 9:24 am

    “That DH slot is gonna be clogged up with guys who need rest.”

    They can use it vs LHP….play Morse in RF vs lefties and DH whoever needs a DH day. Morse is bad in the OF but he’s good enough to play out there enough so that everybody can get some DH time .

    The only hairy thing would be when/ if Arod comes back….then you could trade Youk or somebody

  14. smartchoices January 1st, 2013 at 9:26 am

    They should have been dumping money into the farm since 2002 when they knew LT was going to be an issue. Poor planning. Fine, so instead of buying FAs, go see who they can’t lift out of Tampa Bay’s pitching scouting/developing group.

    And Jeter’s contract negotiations should be interesting at the end of this year with the priority on cost-cutting. He can’t be thrilled with the prospects, but really he, or any player, can’t complain about the LT. It was the MLBPAs choice over having a salary cap.

  15. randy l. January 1st, 2013 at 9:33 am

    “Everybody gets old but the spirit lives on.”

    mtu-

    the trick in getting “experienced” is to keep reinventing yourself while still remembering everything you’ve experienced.

    most people imitate what they’ve done before which is fine, but there has to be some new growth each year or else you’re just living the same year over and over.

    it takes energy to do something new, but what else is there, just shut it down?
    you’d never start a new hike if you felt that way.

    getting back to the yankees, the problem is hal isn’t very experienced ,and what he is experienced in doesn’t really apply to running the yankees.

    i think he knows he doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing and is just taking the least steps possible as he proceeds into what is an unknown future for him.

    to put it in your terminology, he’s on a night time trail for the first time and was handed this trail guide business by his dad who loved to hike new places he hadn’t been before. the problem is that hal always rode the mule down to the bottom of the grand canyon or took the family helicopter.

    leading a group down a new challenging route to the bottom of the canyon and back up to the other side is something hal never wanted to do. now he’s stuck with it.

    maybe if he goes slow , no one will know he’s scared sht$l%ss :)

  16. jmills January 1st, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Randy, nice post! Should be worth a bat or two :)

  17. blake January 1st, 2013 at 9:40 am

    I think Hal wants to run the Yankees like one of his hotels….

  18. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 9:45 am

    Randy-

    He’s not going down into the Canyon with me.

    Not even on a mule.

    He lacks an essential ingredient IMO. Passion.

    Got to run soon. Got to reinvent myself.

    :)

  19. jmills January 1st, 2013 at 9:48 am

    MTU,…do your best Ruth Gordon!

  20. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Mills-

    No one is going to throw me from a train.

    Off a cliff, possibly.

    ;)

  21. randy l. January 1st, 2013 at 9:56 am

    mtu-

    hal is violating his dad’s ” lead, follow , or get the hell out of the way”.

    he’s not leading and he’s not following.

    that leaves one option :)

  22. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Randy-

    I want somebody with a passion for winning running the Yankees.

    Not some green-eyeshade mechanic.

    Are you available ? There would be lot’s of perks.

    ;)

  23. randy l. January 1st, 2013 at 10:02 am

    “I think Hal wants to run the Yankees like one of his hotels….”

    weren’t they more like motels?

    rumor has it hal has cashman negotiating for pedro’s south of the border.
    http://www.thesouthoftheborder.com

    hiltons are off limits.

  24. austinmac January 1st, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Happy New Year all. Morse, Upton, Stanton or someone like Rivera for the outfield?

    I don’t think they will add any significant contract for the future. Upton likely makes too much money.

  25. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Even though many of the kids are likely to struggle in ML’s it will still be fun to watch.

    So at least there’s that.

    :)

  26. austinmac January 1st, 2013 at 10:09 am

    What young guys will we see this year? Possibly Romine, but maybe no one else at the start of the year.rhey will likely add a RH bar leaving Mustelier out. Nix will probably also be back so no Adams.

  27. randy l. January 1st, 2013 at 10:10 am

    “I want somebody with a passion for winning running the Yankees.

    Not some green-eyeshade mechanic.

    Are you available ? There would be lot’s of perks.”

    mtu-

    i piss too many people off. especially rich ones. i’d screw up luxury box sales. even in my present business we try to keep me off the counter :)

    i’d like to see someone like yankeefeminista run the yankees.
    young, fresh, smart, loves baseball, female
    the yankees need to move into the future.

    none of this rich old white men running things crap.
    hal isn’t old chronologically , but he’s old in spirit.
    he lives in a world that’s twenty years behind the times.

    yup, yankeefeminista takes over and i’ll jump back on board as an enthusiastic yankee fan

  28. MTU January 1st, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Randy-

    Let’s see if she is available.

    :)

  29. austinmac January 1st, 2013 at 10:14 am

    I want Shameless to run the Yankees. She would make us chuckle, plus she would infiltrate with our Team Greedy agenda.

  30. austinmac January 1st, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Shame–still early

  31. jmills January 1st, 2013 at 10:25 am

    If you want a known name, get Donna Mills to run the team – lots of edge, or maybe Audrey Hepburn….

  32. blake January 1st, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Shame would buy all the players and if they didnt work shed buy more players !

  33. randy l. January 1st, 2013 at 10:29 am

    austin mac-

    shame on board would keep things loose :)

    i’m settling into my gut feeling about this team for next year.

    i can see 91-92 wins

    that’s based on nothing major going wrong with the starters or mariano.

    the problem is that pettitte and mariano are really old.

    there is very little room for error.

    a few injuries to the wrong people and we’re looking at an implosion where barely winning more than
    losing is in play.

    if there are no major injuries to the pitching staff, i’d say this team could win a playoff spot.

    with some significant injuries watch out.

  34. blake January 1st, 2013 at 10:31 am

    “i can see 91-92 wins”

    I think that’s a good over under line….but Id take the under at this moment….the lineup worries me a lot

  35. austinmac January 1st, 2013 at 10:37 am

    I think this team will have trouble getting to 90+ wins. Too much has to go right and no more significant injuries can occur. Plus, Jeter and Mo have to be fully back. Being great player or pitcher does not make bones and ligaments heal better. Look at Morales and Adams long recoveries. Joint injuries can be tricky.

  36. randy l. January 1st, 2013 at 10:37 am

    blake-

    the reason i didn’t mention the line up is that it looks rather uninspiring at best. some of the weak bats are going to take good bats down i front of them. why pitch to a good hitter when there’s a bad one following.

    could this team surprise? yeah, i suppose girardi could wake up and decide that jeter, gardner, ichiro in the line up demands a different kind of style of play. showalter was able to get to first place late in the season with no plus run differential. maybe girardi could do a similar thing. it would take a new offensive style of play though.

    the home run emphasis with all the whiffs would have to go. i don’t see that happening right away with long as hitting coach.

  37. jmills January 1st, 2013 at 10:41 am

    The Yankees do have the age thing to worry about, but the rate of injuries in general does seem so much higher for teams – I wonder if a lot of these guys are just too built up and snap more easily under high compression. David Wells sure did seem to age well aesthetics aside.

  38. blake January 1st, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Randy,

    I think they could surprise me…. I think they overachieved to win 95 last year and that’s a testament to their pedigree and experience ….but they have a lot of holes in the lineup currently and it could be very weak vs LHP.

    They’ll really need to pitch well (even better than last year) …to win the division and make the playoffs IMO….still time for Cashman to add the bat or bats they need….but I’m not sure they have the motivation ….we’ll see

  39. mick January 1st, 2013 at 10:51 am

    the home run emphasis with all the whiffs would have to go. i don’t see that happening right away with long as hitting coach.
    ============================
    with Swisher, Ibanez and Martin gone that would only apply to our remaining power hitters.
    Cano shouldn’t be a problem, maybe Tex and Grandy and he’s in a walk year and we’ve seen him adapt before.
    Guys like Jeter, Ichiro, Gardner, Nunez will be unaffected.

  40. mick January 1st, 2013 at 10:53 am

    …as will Youk.

  41. mick January 1st, 2013 at 10:54 am

    a few injuries to the wrong people and we’re looking at an implosion where barely winning more than
    losing is in play.
    ==============
    doesn’t this apply to most teams?

  42. mick January 1st, 2013 at 10:58 am

    jeter-ichiro-tex-cano-youk-grandy-DH-gardner gives a balanced order rh-lh -wise.

  43. blake January 1st, 2013 at 11:03 am

    mick says:
    January 1, 2013 at 10:58 am
    jeter-ichiro-tex-cano-youk-grandy-DH-gardner gives a balanced order rh-lh -wise.

    That’s very lefty dominant unless Youk bounces back…..

  44. randy l. January 1st, 2013 at 11:08 am

    “doesn’t this apply to most teams?”

    yeah, but since when do the yankees try to be just another team?

    the yankees have clearly lowered their +- goal.

    they seem to have lowered their sights about 3-4 wins.

    not very yankee like.

  45. The Return of Stoneburner January 1st, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Offensively – for me – the two additions I am looking for at this point are Cano hitting lefties again AND a full season of Teixeira and his usual 35 HRs and 110 RBIs – - – -but i will not know whether those additions can be acquired until you play the games – - – -

  46. Shame Spencer January 1st, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Morning all and Happy New Year to you and yours!

    I wish I was in charge… We’d be feeling ALL the happy emotions right now heading into spring training.

    Only six more weeks until there’s a game tomorrow!

  47. blake January 1st, 2013 at 11:21 am

    I think Cano should hit lefties better next year….he’s always hit them and he should bounce back there….. Tex? Who knows….he’s been trending down since 2009 and while he could turn if around its unlikely that he will greatly improve at his age and with his swing. We have to hope he gets back to being close to an elite bat vs LHP though…..

  48. The Return of Stoneburner January 1st, 2013 at 11:22 am

    The Mariners have contacted the Marlins about Giancarlo Stanton, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com. However, one source Morosi spoke with doubts a trade will occur.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#T4M0G8f5kDwtYMzh.99

  49. blake January 1st, 2013 at 11:24 am

    The Mariners would have to trade most all that young pitching they have stocked up plus more to get Giancarlo …..might be counterproductive for them

  50. The Return of Stoneburner January 1st, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Baseball America’s Jim Callis has updated the 2013 amateur draft order. There are four potential compensation free agents remaining on the market (Michael Bourn, Adam LaRoche, Kyle Lohse, and Rafael Soriano). If they change addresses, their former club will get a pick at the end of the first round and their new team will forfeit their top choice (unless it’s one of the top 10 overall).

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#T4M0G8f5kDwtYMzh.99

    Yanks are currently #27 in the draft. If Bourn signs with the Dodgers – Yanks move up to #26 – could move up as high as #24 in the 1st round if Bourn, LaRoche, Lohse, and Soriano all sign away from their 2012 teams – though that does not seem likely for example with LaRoche – but you never know – and with each draft pick that goes away in the first round for the signing team – the supplemental round picks the Yanks receive from Swisher and Soriano (hopefully) – - – -

  51. blake January 1st, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Sucks that it’s a supposed weak draft with the picks the Yanks will have this year….but you never know….a weak draft could end up a strong one 5 years from now

  52. Rich in NJ January 1st, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Cashman or Levine should call Miami and AZ to find out what young players/prospects they want for Stanton and Upton, and then gauge the market on Granderson and Cano to see if they could bring back those kind of assets to make a deal.

    But this team seems to be guided by a series of one year plans, so it’s probably sink or swim with what the Yankees already have, plus whatever RH OF falls in their laps.

    If everything breaks right, they could be ok in 2013. Beyond that…

  53. The Return of Stoneburner January 1st, 2013 at 11:30 am

    I do not know much about the 2013 draft – other than what i read on BA and ESPN – i saw a list of the pre-season top 50 – there could still be some intriguing names the Yanks could take with their first four picks in the first 60ish picks they have – there seems to be a bunch of HS catchers, college arms, and HS lefties – but very few positional players at the top – then again – Tyler Austin was taken in the 10th round in 2010 – with these things you just never know – - – -

  54. Shame Spencer January 1st, 2013 at 11:32 am

    If the Mariners move Montero in a package for Giancarlo what would this blog look like? War zone? Asylum? A scene from Les Miserables?

  55. The Return of Stoneburner January 1st, 2013 at 11:33 am

    I am not so sure anymore who is the better one to keep if you had to deal one of them – Williams or Heathcott – - – -I am leaning more now towards keeping Williams – - – -

  56. DONNYBROOK January 1st, 2013 at 11:37 am

    - ONLY REASON TO TURN ON THE TV -

    (1) YANKEE GAMES – REMEMBER TO TURN THE AUDIO OFF.

    (2) NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL GAMES – PRIDE AND TRADITION HAVE RETURNED, DOMINANCE NEXT.

    (3) AMISH MAFIA – THE SOPRANOS WITH A WINK AND A NOD.

    (4) BAMAZON – THERE’S GOLD IN THEM THAR BISCUITS AND GRITS.

  57. mick January 1st, 2013 at 11:41 am

    That’s very lefty dominant unless Youk bounces back…..

    jeter-ichiro-tex-cano-youk-grandy-DH-gardner gives a balanced order rh-lh -wise.
    =======================================
    looks pretty balanced. throw in Nunez …

  58. blake January 1st, 2013 at 11:41 am

    The Return of Stoneburner says:
    January 1, 2013 at 11:33 am
    I am not so sure anymore who is the better one to keep if you had to deal one of them – Williams or Heathcott – – – -I am leaning more now towards keeping Williams – – – -

    Probably Williams cause of the injury history with Heathcott….but Heathcott is closer to the big leagues and has performed against better competition in the AFL….Id probably say mason in a vacuum but Id trade either in the right deal so long as I got to keep the other…..

    For example if Towers wanted Mason for Upton then he wouldn’t hold up the deal so long as Hearhcott wasn’t in too

  59. mick January 1st, 2013 at 11:42 am

    this could be a make or break year for Montero.

    prospects become suspects really fast these days…

  60. blake January 1st, 2013 at 11:51 am

    =======================================
    looks pretty balanced. throw in Nunez …

    Only if Jeter is good again and Youk hits….otherwise it’s all on Tex vs LHP

  61. mick January 1st, 2013 at 11:52 am

    “doesn’t this apply to most teams?”

    yeah, but since when do the yankees try to be just another team?

    the yankees have clearly lowered their +- goal.

    they seem to have lowered their sights about 3-4 wins.

    not very yankee like.
    ====================
    randy-

    If you are talking about depth, take a look at last years team. They were injured more than any team I can remember and won 95 games.
    Granted they have lost Ibanez, Chavez, Swisher and Martin of which Ichiro will replace Swisher and Gardner back to LF instead of the Ibanez/Jones tandem. Nunez and Youkilis should compensate and they will get a LH DH.

  62. mick January 1st, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Only if Jeter is good again and Youk hits….otherwise it’s all on Tex vs LHP
    ===========================================
    Jeter will hit. Youk is not finished.
    The only RH bat lost was Swisher and Ichiro can hit leftys.
    Nunez will get plenty of AB’s.

  63. blake January 1st, 2013 at 11:57 am

    ===========================================
    Jeter will hit. Youk is not finished.
    The only RH bat lost was Swisher and Ichiro can hit leftys.
    Nunez will get plenty of AB’s.

    Swisher and Martin (and Arod) are pretty big loses vs LHP

  64. mick January 1st, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Martin? The same guy who was excoriated in here all of last year ? He didn’t even get credit for the great Sept. he had as too many would have had to eat crow.

    Martin!?!

    As far as Swisher, “the hero swinger,” all I can say is how quickly people forget.
    Ichiro is 10x the hitter he is and “situational” which was the biggest complaint last year.

  65. austinmac January 1st, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    Mick,

    Again, please explain why a guy who hit only slightly better than Swisher with no walks or power is ten times the hitter.


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