The LoHud Yankees Blog

A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News


Now batting for Team Greedy: Giancarlo Stanton

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 03, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

There’s a tendency to lump all Yankees all fans into one stereotype. Around here, in the comments of this blog, it’s become known as Team Greedy. It’s the group of fans that wants the best, no matter the cost. Nothing is too extravagant, and the consequences shouldn’t matter. Sign Jason Giambi. Trade for Alex Rodriguez. Sign CC Sabathia. Trade for Ichiro Suzuki.

Team Greedy asks, why not also sign Josh Hamilton and trade for James Shields?

But the state of the Yankees roster and payroll — with too many tough-to-absorb contracts and not enough big-league-ready prospects — has exposed the weaknesses of a Team Greedy mindset. There’s cause and effect; a cost of doing business. There are still some who want every toy in the store, but there’s also a growing argument for doing what makes sense. We might all disagree with what exactly makes sense, but these days, the big picture matters, the farm system matters, and it’s becoming clear that the Yankees must be built on more than money and veterans. Team Greedy is being pushed to the fringes, until…

Giancarlo Stanton.

On Twitter. Via email. In the comments of this blog. I’ve read plenty of Yankees fans disgusted by the state of the farm system. Never should have traded Jesus Montero. Never should have traded Austin Jackson. Never should have traded Tyler Clippard or Zach McAllister or Ian Kennedy. The Yankees have to build a farm system and protect their young talent.

But when the very idea of Giancarlo Stanton hits the rumor mill, isnt’ Team Greedy the easiest way to go? The most exciting way to go? The kid is a monster, and he’s still young, and there’s a hole in right field, and who knows whether Mason Williams or Slade Heathcott or Gary Sanchez will ever amount to anything? Trade them all! Tyler Austin too! Plus two or three others! Whatever it takes!

There’s such temptation to go for the big score, and you know what, Team Greedy might be right. There’s a chance that none of the Yankees young prospects will ever amount to anything and Stanton will become the best power hitter in the game for the next decade. There is a legitimate case to be made for selling the farm to get this guy.

But then what? Where do the Yankees turn to fill other positions in a year or two? What do they do when Stanton hits arbitration next year and needs a massive contract soon after that? Can trading for Stanton set off enough dominoes — trade Granderson for other prospects, don’t re-sign Cano, etc. — to make such a trade work in the short term and the long term?

Maybe. But there’s risk either way. Trading for Stanton is an all-your-eggs-in-one-basket scenario. It’s an extreme version of the old model. Under the new model, the Yankees might have to wait. They might have to choose their risks more carefully, and take a chance that one or two of those young, Class-A prospects will become valuable big leaguers.

These days, the bigger picture carries all the weight. And the days of Team Greedy might have come and gone.

Associated Press photos

 
 

Advertisement

97 Responses to “Now batting for Team Greedy: Giancarlo Stanton”

  1. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Chad….. we are obviously meant to be together.

    Thank you for shouting out Team Greedy in this article ;)

  2. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Did our shame Spencer write this? Best post ever

  3. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Team Greedy isnt really about making dumb decisions….it’s about making the Yankees better and doing what it takes to make that happen.

  4. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 9:10 am

    “If Upton is still available, the Braves still have more to offer and Justin would fit perfectly as a corner, right handed power hitter, rather than another lefty-Granderson- to be in the heart of their line-up with other lefties-McCann, Heyward, and Freeman.”

    Eh….I think it depends on what Towers want and if the Braves would actually trade it.

    The braves could have had Upton a month ago if they would have dealt Simmons….. But they wouldn’t and after that they don’t match up nearly as well.

    The Braves strength in their system is pitching and the Dbacks have that in prospects…..the Yanks probably actually have better position player prospects to offer

  5. MTU January 3rd, 2013 at 9:10 am

    “They might have to choose their risks more carefully, and take a chance that one or two of those young, Class-A prospects will become valuable big leaguers.

    These days, the bigger picture carries all the weight. And the days of Team Greedy might have come and gone.”

    The Yankees will never be the Twins or the Rays.

    When 2015 rolls around you’ll see the money spigot open again.

    Develop some Farm guys but don’t bet the “Farm” on that approach either.

    Strategic acqusitions should always be a part of the Yankees strategy.

    They can do that thru FA or thru trade. But it should happen again at some point.

    Those dynasty guys were a “one off” IMO.

    Overhugging prospects is just as detrimental to an organization as underhugging.

    Balance.

    ;)

  6. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Team Greedy isnt about wasting money…..the greedy part isn’t even about money….it’s about being greedy with the quality of the team….not being satisfied …..

  7. MTU January 3rd, 2013 at 9:14 am

    For every 1 Ajax there are 10 or 100 Melky Mesa’s.

  8. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Exactly blake.. did you see this commercial I posted yesterday?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGS90HEbP5U

  9. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Team Greedy is all about playing to your strengths and preparing for the worst case scenarios… Our strength as an organization is fiscal might. We’ve been strong arming teams for over a decade now, and it’s been a huge advantage.

  10. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 9:17 am

    @LenBermanSports: The #Yankees fan lament. “If only George were alive.” He certainly made things interesting when he bought the Yanks 40 yrs. ago today!

  11. randy l. January 3rd, 2013 at 9:17 am

    shame-

    i trust you have trademarked the rights to “team greedy”.

    if you haven’t drop what you are doing and do it :)

    nice job

  12. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Shame,

    Exactly,

    Why would you want a worse baseball team when you can have a better one?

  13. MTU January 3rd, 2013 at 9:21 am

    It may just be that young Stein believes he needs to get the Yankees on more solid ground going forward.

    One step back to take 2 forward sort of thing.

    OTOH he may just be a passionless, green-eyshade mechanic getting ready to sell his Father’s love-object for max. profit.

    We’ll see in a coupla years.

    I hope it’s the former but either way I’d like to see someone with a passion for winning owning the Yankees.

    :)

  14. MTU January 3rd, 2013 at 9:23 am

    If that was your post Shame congrats.

    Off to walk the Mopsters.

  15. MTU January 3rd, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Bud Smellig is a frickin’ commie.

    He’s responsible for crushing “Team Greedy” Shame.

  16. Against All Odds January 3rd, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Team Greedy on the rise

  17. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 9:40 am

    I can’t blame Bud for this though.. it would be so much more fun if we had an ownership crew that basically told Bud to shove it. It will be interesting to see what the Dodgers do in the future, once they reach the high point of the luxury tax. They’re Bud’s guys… will they thumb their nose at him? I think despite the rules Bud has enacted, he knows that the more teams spend the better it is for the game.

    Every good story needs a villain.

  18. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 9:40 am

    blake January 3rd, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Shame,

    Exactly,

    Why would you want a worse baseball team when you can have a better one?

    —————–

    “What’s better, bigger or smaller?”
    “BIGGER!”

  19. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 9:51 am

    Reading through the post a bit more.. I think it’s a misconception that Team Greedy actually gets the team in trouble. Arod is always going to be polarizing but he basically carried the ’09 team to the World Series round. Same for Tex. I don’t care how much CC costs, he’s a work horse who is worth it. This team just signed Ichiro to a 2 year deal for the sole purpose of milking the merchandising opportunities… that says something really important about baseball as a business. That’s why when people were discussing taking a hard line stance on the Jeter negotiations, a bunch of us thought they were crazy. These guys rake in money for the organization and MLB as a whole. People underestimate the value in that.

  20. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Is it true the team earns an extra $1 million per home playoff game? Or is it more? In hockey I think it’s $1 million per home game so I’d assume it’s more in baseball but it might be about the same.

  21. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Team greedy can get a team in trouble if the operate like that for 10 years then all the sudden try to be team thrifty…..

    Kinda like somebody buying a mansion and 10 cars then trying to operate on a much smaller budget with a big mortgage and multiple car payments

  22. austinmac January 3rd, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Blake,

    Good analogy.

    Team Greedy is not about blind spending or wreaking havoc with the farm. It is about using the money the team has to insure quality players. It is not about letting players walk because we can’t pay them fair market value. It is about a willingness to pay fair market value for a needed player rather than than the aging rehab players that are in vogue.

    Team Greedy would not have it’s GM go to the winter meeting without authority to act.

    Team Greedy would have tried to sign Darvish and Cespedes because of the lower impact on the so-called cap.

    Team Greedy would not have a dozen open spots in the 2014 25 man roster with no farm system or money with which to fill the holes.

    Team Greedy would not have limited itself to one year contracts when reasonable multi year deals could be had–Cody Ross for example.

  23. Northy January 3rd, 2013 at 10:07 am

    There is a difference i trading prospects for Granderson who had a large contract or a old Randy Johnson, and then trading for a cheap, in terms of dollars, Stanton….

    On paper the trade for Pineda was a good trade – a potential good and cheap pitcher..

  24. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:10 am

    If the Yanks want to be more efficient and operate like everyone else….then they should operate like everyone else.

    You can’t refuse to do extensions or to trade players if you’re not going to spend the money to sign or replace them…..

    If they are gonna operate like the Yankees then operate like the Yankees and buy what you need…..if they want to be everyone else then they need to operate like it.

    Pick a lane…..the middle is a bad place to be

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock January 3rd, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Overhugging prospects is just as detrimental to an organization as underhugging.

    Balance.
    ///

    Well, the Yankees certainly wouldn’t know: they trade their top prospects away.

    btw, I see Domonic Brown’s name in here over and over again. Yeah, the guy has great tools and you can always take a chance on a left-handed youngster with raw power.

    That said, I don’t know if folks here realize just how bad Brown’s defense is. He would have to be limited to RF, because his reads make Zoilo Almonte’s instinctive game look like Joe D’s.

    The Phillies switched him from RF to LF, but of course left would be out of the question in Yankee Stadium. He has the arm for RF, but he is a butcher in judging flyballs and considering how quick he is supposed to be for a giant, you’d never know it on his first few steps when he breaks on a ball. I mean it – he cannot field. You could live with that, of course, if he could get his hitting together.

    In fairness to Brown, I’ve mostly seen him against Betances, who simply eats him up with that curveball and high heat combo. I don’t like his swing at all, and I don’t think he’s getting his money’s worth out of his legs at the plate, but the power’s definitely there and the right hitting coach could tweak him and he becomes a monster, especially in Yankee Stadium.

    But he’s a guy who really needs to work on many aspects of his game before he can even think about fulfilling that package of skills.

  26. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:11 am

    “On paper the trade for Pineda was a good trade – a potential good and cheap pitcher..”

    It failed to account for their needs….and here we are a year later (just as many of us predicted) needing a young bat (right handed one to boot).

  27. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 10:12 am

    I feel like what they’re doing is trying to clear as much money off the books as possible so they can keep Cano and Hughes… but had they made some smarter fiscal decisions last year (Cespedes/Beltran + trading either Grandy or Swish) they’d be in a better position to keep them both. If none of our prospects hit by the middle of 2014 or 2015, we’re not going to be able to stay on the budget anyway.

    Still cannot believe Cespedes only makes like $9 million a year.. you know you’re not going to resign at least one of your current outfielders and you let that slip through your fingers.. smh.

  28. J. Alfred Prufrock January 3rd, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Happy New Year, by the way :)

  29. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:14 am

    “I feel like what they’re doing is trying to clear as much money off the books as possible so they can keep Cano and Hughes”

    Maybe so but this is folly …. It would basically take all of the payroll for like 7 players…..

  30. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 10:14 am

    I don’t necessarily agree with the thinking behind the Pineda move but I do understand it.. what hurts though is that it still did absolutely nothing to save money. We didn’t save a dime, and even if he does end up being a #2 or #3, you didn’t really help yourself fiscally.

  31. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Had the Yankees signed Darvish and Cespedes and kept Montero then they probably wouldn’t need a darn thing now or for the next couple of years…..penny wise….pound foolish ?

  32. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 10:17 am

    If they are gonna operate like the Yankees then operate like the Yankees and buy what you need…..if they want to be everyone else then they need to operate like it.

    ——————

    And get used to the results :(

    ‘Everyone else’ kinda sucks more than we do. Shame.

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock January 3rd, 2013 at 10:20 am

    I’m out of here, but did some speed reading backwards and just want to reiterate that I Gary Sanchez is not any outgoing package for anyone.

    I read something in here like, if we deal Williams and Sanchez, we still have Heathcott and Tyler Austin.

    Well, the problem there, as I see it, is that you simply don’t trade a player that has Sanchez’s bat who is also a catcher. It’s easy to just dismiss Sanchez because he’s a couple years away; but that was the position of some when AJax was dealt away; he was “years away” and wasn’t going to ever be the Yankees’ CF any way. Hmm….

    That’s No. 1.

    No. 2, Austin is a COF. The other two guys are CF candidates, and legit CF who profile as really good hitters just aren’t that common: absent those higher-end prospects, you “settle” for Bourne and Gardner types…not the Yankee way.

  34. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Pick a lane…..the middle is a bad place to be

    —————-

    I still think it’s a result of discord in the FO. You have new ownership coming in and watching how the team operates for a year or two.. now they’re at the point where they’re ready to take the reins but you have Levine who I think is probably Team Greedy’s rep (god help us) in the FO and Cash who is, or at least was, more focused on development – all the while still knowing he had an ace in the hole if he needed it ($$$). So you have two decidedly different views on how to approach the business.. and then Hal, Hank and Jennifer come in with their own ideas… I’m telling you, nothing can create a worse situation than having people operating on a bunch of different planes.

    It can literally sink and organization for years. Again, look at the Jets vs. the Giants. I don’t care for the Giants as a team just because I’m a Cowboys fan, but I can appreciate the methods they use to maintain their competitiveness. The Jets were on the brink and they basically let the whole thing explode to the point where they, two years out of two awesome back to back seasons, are in total rebuild mode.

  35. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 10:22 am

    @tmckernan

    Lohse: It’s not exactly a free market for a guy like me when a guy like Greinke gets a get out of jail free card b/c he was traded midseason

    @tmckernan

    Lohse: It’s been pretty quiet for me. I think that’s because teams value that draft pick and the money that comes along with it.

  36. Mike in Harrisburg January 3rd, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Exactly, blake. It’s one thing if you can sell the cars and the house (Red Sox?), but another if you have to somehow keep making the payments.

  37. mick January 3rd, 2013 at 10:30 am

    teixeiramark25 Can anybody tell me where to buy some cassette tapes for my new Walkman? I got it for Christmas and I’m about to go for a run.
    ================================
    Is he kidding, never seen him do so, or is he just a dork?
    Time for a new agent to reinvent your brand…

  38. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:32 am

    “I read something in here like, if we deal Williams and Sanchez, we still have Heathcott and Tyler Austin.”

    And Justin Upton in the context I said that…..

  39. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Mike in Harrisburg says:
    January 3, 2013 at 10:26 am
    Exactly, blake. It’s one thing if you can sell the cars and the house (Red Sox?), but another if you have to somehow keep making the payments.

    Correct…,the Sox managed to get out from under the payments

  40. J. Alfred Prufrock January 3rd, 2013 at 10:33 am

    This whole “Team Greedy” thing makes me nostalgic for ProSportsDaily.

    I will always associate that term with one Daniel Burch, who coined and began his “Get Greedy – Get Manny” campaign that held court on that blog for months and months.

    Some folks were really into it – others were incredibly sick of it, but it became legendary stuff on that site, even seeping onto other ones.

    We also thought he should license the appellation, and were even going to launch “Get Greedy – Get Manny” t-shirt campaign to bring Manny’s bat to the Bronx, and make a video up in Washington Heights, where Manny hails from, to start a viral campaign.

    It seemed a great idea at the time; in fact, I and another member kept pushing for Manny, and Burch eventually bought in and coined that term that set the blog on fire.

    I thought of Manny mentoring Cano and even helping Alex to “not give a ****” was tempting. For all his issues, Manny always had time to spend with young hitters in the cage and was just a perfectionist.

    Any way, I will always think of Burch as the originator of the “Greedy” thing. In fact, I think that “Greedy Pinstripes” blog is his. I’ve never read it, however.
    :D

  41. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:35 am

    JAP,

    If you can get Upton for Mason and Sanchez then IMO you have to……Sanchez is the guy is least want to deal but I would for Upton….especially if I got to keep my two closest bats to the majors in the deal …..respect your opinion but Sanchez is probably a good 3 years away and knowing the Yanks they probably will never catch him anyway

  42. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 10:36 am

    The only way I’d feel a lot more comfortable dealing Sanchez is if we do it in a deal for Santana.

    The thing that worries me about Sanchez is that the team won’t let him catch anyway lol. But in all likelihood, by the time he makes it up Girardi won’t be our manager anymore so perhaps the opinions on the value of a good offensive catcher might be different. I still don’t know how much of that is driven by Girardi and how much is driven by the FO or Cash.

  43. yankeefeminista January 3rd, 2013 at 10:39 am

    lol, as if the Yankees would let Carlos Santana catch… Not exactly their idea of a catcher. Sanchez might actually end up being better defensively.

    Happy New Year, all!

  44. DONNYBROOK January 3rd, 2013 at 10:45 am

    - IF I OWNED THE YANKEES FOR 1 DAY, I WOULD -

    (1) TRADE CANO – NO WAY, I bring this guy back at $25 Mill for at least 7yrs. NO WAY

    (2) FIRE CASHMAN – Any significant move is Now outta his jurisdiction, so who needs ‘em?

    (3) MAKE NUNEZ FULLTIME 3B – The only offensive player we had vs Detroit. He merits the shot.

    (4) BRING BACK JIM KAAT – Most insightful\honest color guy there is.

    (5) CALL BILLY CRYSTAL – Inform him his movie Sucks.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock January 3rd, 2013 at 10:46 am

    blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:32 am

    “I read something in here like, if we deal Williams and Sanchez, we still have Heathcott and Tyler Austin.”

    And Justin Upton in the context I said that…..
    ///

    I understand, but Heathcott and Tyler Austin, for example, aren’t interchangeable and Sanchez is frankly peerless in our system when it comes to prospects, because he projects elite power and has a real hit tool and because he’s a catcher.

    I like Upton a great deal; he and Cano would dramatically change the lineup, there is no question about that. But I don’t trade Sanchez. We just have our differences on that.

  46. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 10:48 am

    (5) CALL BILLY CRYSTAL – Inform him his movie Sucks.

    ————————

    :lol:

    Totally agree about Kaat by the way.. loved him.

    fem – Eh, you’re probably right but since there are no games tomorrow we’re still sitting around trying to trade for ALL the players ;)

  47. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:51 am

    “I understand, but Heathcott and Tyler Austin, for example, aren’t interchangeable and Sanchez is frankly peerless in our system when it comes to prospects, because he projects elite power and has a real hit tool and because he’s a catcher.”

    I didn’t say they were….if they were then Id rather trade them for Upton ;)

  48. J. Alfred Prufrock January 3rd, 2013 at 10:52 am

    blake,

    Sorry didn’t see that post about Sanchez.

    All I can say is, if a top catching prospect who projects to hit like Sanchez does, is in the “probably will never catch for the Yankees” category, then we are all wasting our focus with trade ideas and prospect talk. We should be instead writing letters to management and holding a vigil outside Yankee Stadium for a new GM.

    But to your point, he may not be 3 years away; depends on his progress behind the plate. As a hitter, he’d be in AA already. I think we can’t say for sure, either way. I will have a better handle on that when I get to see his every home game :D :D :D .

  49. J. Alfred Prufrock January 3rd, 2013 at 10:53 am

    *writing letters to OWNERSHIP

  50. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:55 am

    “But to your point, he may not be 3 years away; depends on his progress behind the plate. As a hitter, he’d be in AA already. I think we can’t say for sure, either way. I will have a better handle on that when I get to see his every home game .”

    That’s great…. It’s a really big year for the farm…..

  51. Ys Guy January 3rd, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Great Post.

    As i said on new year’s day, chad has made that big jump from reporter to blogger!

    opinions, humor and engaging the readers and commenters!

    way to go big guy!

  52. J. Alfred Prufrock January 3rd, 2013 at 10:57 am

    I didn’t say they were….if they were then Id rather trade them for Upton ;)
    ///

    Sure, IF they were, we’d have a deeper pool of guys who project as CFs. It’s just too bad Mesa has his issues with breaking pitches. If he didn’t, I wouldn’t hold on so tight to Mason/Slade.

    I also would be concerned about Upton’s shoulder. He blows it out, or it’s something diminishes him – well, now you’ve given up your best OF prospects for him…

    I do think they’re up to something, though. They’d have to be. I just don’t look forward to the fruits of Brian Cashman’s imagination.

    Have a good day, guys.

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock January 3rd, 2013 at 10:59 am

    blake,

    Indeed it is. AA should be a blast. Good one :D

  54. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:59 am

    “I do think they’re up to something, though. They’d have to be. I just don’t look forward to the fruits of Brian Cashman’s imagination.”

    It is worrisome …..

  55. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Sadly Trenton games may be more interesting by June than Yankee games

  56. DONNYBROOK January 3rd, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Just like the Notre Dame defense keeps them in games, the Yankee pitching will keep them in the AL Playoff race. You doom-and-gloomers oughtta hold out until at least the All Star Break. Burying this team right after the ball drops is Ridiculous.

  57. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 11:07 am

    @YESNetwork: Report: Austin Romine likely to start in Triple-A. Who do you think will be the Yankees’ Opening Day catcher? http://t.co/WoyiMuxQ

  58. austinmac January 3rd, 2013 at 11:09 am

    No one is burying the team. Trenton may simply be more interesting to watch. Watching young players develop is more entertaining than watching older players try to hang on.

  59. Benny Blanco January 3rd, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Based on the report, Stewie.

  60. rl1856 January 3rd, 2013 at 11:10 am

    “Team Greedy” does have a few chips that can be played, even if cash is not readily available:

    David Phelps
    Mark Montgomery
    Adam Warren

    or Ivan Nova
    or Joba Chamberlain

    Phelps has proven himself as big league ready. Warren has shown extreme promise and it is hard to ignore what Montgomery has accomplished so far. Nova could be a few adjustments away from being a solid middle of the rotation starter. If the team believes in Aardsma then Joba is expendable and may benefit from a lower presure change of environment. What is important to consider is that all are cheap, young, full of promise and just the type of arms that a team can (re)build around.

    Pertinant question is would 3 of these arms be enough to pry Stanton away and could our farm system withstand the loss of the upper level pitching arms ?

  61. Mike Ri January 3rd, 2013 at 11:13 am

    STEWIE !!! . ..ughhhhhh

  62. yankeefeminista January 3rd, 2013 at 11:13 am

    fem – Eh, you’re probably right but since there are no games tomorrow we’re still sitting around trying to trade for ALL the players
    ___
    Shame, Hockey World Jr. Semi’s this AM were fun. :) And maybe we will get a 48 game schedule yet. I am still hoping I get to see my Pens at Island/Rangers at end of Jan.
    ____
    Blake, sooner than end of June with the kids we likely have starting in Trenton. Although Austin will likely start in Tampa.

  63. DONNYBROOK January 3rd, 2013 at 11:13 am

    A June DOA is a doom-and-gloom proclamation.

  64. DONNYBROOK January 3rd, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Saw the promo yesterday for the Pete Rose Reality Show. How low can this guy go?

  65. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 11:16 am

    I refuse to believe that Chris Stewart will be the opening day catcher

  66. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Fem – I wish! I still don’t think we see any hockey this year. I was sad I can’t watch the Jrs, they’re always a lot of fun. I remember when Parise was on the USA team that beat Canada a few years back.

  67. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 11:18 am

    “Blake, sooner than end of June with the kids we likely have starting in Trenton. Although Austin will likely start in Tampa.”

    Well I was gonna give the big league team a little time ;)

  68. 86w183 January 3rd, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Any package for Stanton should start with offering to take on Nolasco to make it more attractive to the Marlins.

    Beyond that At least three pitchers, and OF and another player. I would assume Nova would be a must get for them. they may want Gardner as a relatively inexpensive OF and leadoff hitter.

    Nova, Phelps, Warren, Gardner and Austin/Williams or Heathcott enough for Stanton and Nolasco?

  69. Ys Guy January 3rd, 2013 at 11:19 am

    thank goodness they are not just going to hand the job to romine who has not earned it.

    i suspect that he has the chance to earn a spot in the bronx in ST but i sure don’t want them to go to camp with romine the assumed starter.

  70. 86w183 January 3rd, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Any chance of a Lo-Hud event at Scranton or Trenton next year?

    Personally I’d vote for Trenton in June… before the dead of summer

  71. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 11:20 am

    There was no way (or very little chance, anyway) they were going to start Romine at C right out of the gate given how his last year went.. but if they’re really going with Stewie and Cervelli instead, I’d almost prefer they just throw the kid in the fire.

    Remember when we were all trying to trade Romine :|

    ..I bet he could have brought back David DeJesus.

  72. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 11:20 am

    DONNYBROOK says:
    January 3, 2013 at 11:13 am
    A June DOA is a doom-and-gloom proclamation.

    I just said more interesting ….didn’t proclaim the Yankees would be dead by June….I think they’ll stay in the race all year if their pitching stays healthy….but probably will be sorta boring to watch like last year

  73. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 11:22 am

    “Nova, Phelps, Warren, Gardner and Austin/Williams or Heathcott enough for Stanton and Nolasco?”

    Doubt it

  74. Ys Guy January 3rd, 2013 at 11:22 am

    “86w183 January 3rd, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Any chance of a Lo-Hud event at Scranton or Trenton next year? ”
    ===================================
    yeah, my lohud yankees blog t shirts are all old and ratty i need a new one!

  75. DONNYBROOK January 3rd, 2013 at 11:22 am

    You look at most teams, and the catcher position does Not make-or-break- ‘em. Frisco being the exception. The Yanks can make a Championship run without a marque player back there.

  76. DONNYBROOK January 3rd, 2013 at 11:24 am

    - LADIES AND GENTLEMEN…………………THE WAFFLE HOUSE IS NOW OPEN -

  77. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 11:24 am

    DONNYBROOK says:
    January 3, 2013 at 11:22 am
    You look at most teams, and the catcher position does Not make-or-break- ‘em. Frisco being the exception. The Yanks can make a Championship run without a marque player back there.

    Name the catchers for the last 5 WS winners

    Posey, Yadier, Posey, Posada, Yadier.

  78. G. Love January 3rd, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Three cheers for Team Greedy!

    Shame? When do the Team Greedy Cashmere adult sized onesie footie PJ’s in Yankee pinstripes arrive at the team store culled from the wool of highly pampered goats? I think that should be the Team Greedy uniform.

  79. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 11:27 am

    @TBrownYahoo: Scout on Javier Vazquez in PR winter ball: Physically looks great, ball coming out of his hand well, could be a sneaky good pickup.

    Lol…not even gonna say anything

  80. austinmac January 3rd, 2013 at 11:28 am

    “I refuse to believe Chris Stewart will be the opening day catcher.”

    I too shall stay in denial as long as possible. Stewart is literally one of the worst looking hitters I have seen in the major leagues. Plus, he had eight passed balls in limited play. The only ability he has is a quick release to second.

    We would be hard pressed to find another team with a starting catcher as bad.

    In addition to the other errors they make, not giving young players a chance in 2013 is inane when they will have to play a bunch of them in 2014.

  81. mick January 3rd, 2013 at 11:31 am

    ….but probably will be sorta boring to watch like last year
    =======================================
    Why do you say that?
    This will be an entirely different team and season.
    Gardner will be back. Ichiro for a full season, both represent the running game as well as Nunez.
    Youkilis is a wild card.
    The games might be more low scoring as the “hero swingers” are gone but that’s what many wanted.
    As you said, the middle is not a good place to be, or something like that…

  82. mick January 3rd, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Romine not being the opening day catcher is Yankee code for stop worrying we are looking into things.
    Surprised such astute observers don’t see that….

  83. Rich in NJ January 3rd, 2013 at 11:33 am

    I’ll take Team Smart over Team Greedy, but this franchise has been far better at being greedy than smart.

  84. mick January 3rd, 2013 at 11:34 am

    ..I bet he could have brought back David DeJesus.
    ==================================
    Bring back Bret the Hitman….extend the olive branch, it’s a new year!

  85. yankeefeminista January 3rd, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Well I was gonna give the big league team a little time.
    ____
    Ah yes, patience is a virtue, and we may still make a deal from someone under 40. ;)

    As per Trenton, too bad the Rays are in at the Stadium the same weekend that Portland (Red Sox AA team) is at Trenton. Those games are always fun.

  86. mick January 3rd, 2013 at 11:35 am

    I’ll take Team Smart over Team Greedy, but this franchise has been far better at being greedy than smart.
    =================
    This team was built on minor leaguers that succeeded and you know who they are.

  87. Shame Spencer January 3rd, 2013 at 11:35 am

    :arrow:

  88. yankeefeminista January 3rd, 2013 at 11:36 am

    *for someone

  89. Against All Odds January 3rd, 2013 at 11:39 am

    mick January 3rd, 2013 at 10:30 am
    teixeiramark25 Can anybody tell me where to buy some cassette tapes for my new Walkman? I got it for Christmas and I’m about to go for a run.
    ================================
    Is he kidding, never seen him do so, or is he just a dork?
    Time for a new agent to reinvent your brand…

    —————————————

    Maybe his account was hacked

  90. Against All Odds January 3rd, 2013 at 11:40 am

    mick January 3rd, 2013 at 11:35 am
    I’ll take Team Smart over Team Greedy, but this franchise has been far better at being greedy than smart.
    =================
    This team was built on minor leaguers that succeeded and you know who they are.
    ———————————

    And what are the chances the team can built a core similar to that again

  91. mick January 3rd, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Maybe his account was hacked
    ===================
    clever if so but tex is bland and should not be selling things either.
    if twitter is to improve your “brand” (god help us) then again get a new agent

  92. mick January 3rd, 2013 at 11:42 am

    And what are the chances the team can built a core similar to that again
    ============================================
    seems like they are on their way

  93. Duh Innings II January 3rd, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Yeah I’m greedy because I wanted the Yankees to do the below instead of what they’ve done, ok sure whatever.

    - Sign Scott Baker for what he got from the Cubs ($5.5M base + $1.5M incentives.)

    - Re-sign Pettitte for a year and $7.5M base as he is worth 75% of Mo not $2M more than Mo.

    Baker and Pettitte would’ve cost only $1-2.5M more than the $12M the Yanks stupidly re-signed Pettitte for. How is Pettitte worth half a mil shy of FIVE TIMES his 2012 salary?!! The rotation would’ve been Sabathia/Kuroda/Pettitte/Hughes/Baker which would’ve given the Yanks a set bullpen also (Rivera/Robertson/Chamberlain/Aardsma/Logan/Rapada/Nova or Phelps) and FIVE homegrown pitchers to trade for a hitter (Hughes, Nova, Phelps, Robertson, and Chamberlain. True they could trade any of those five today but Baker would’ve allowed the Yanks to keep one more of them.

    - Re-signed Chavez for the $3M he took from Arizona and sign Hannahan for the same amount for a Chavez/Hannahan 3B platoon for half the cost of Youkilis who is ridiculously being paid double what Mark Reynolds took from the Indians.

    -Re-signed Melky Cabrera for two years at $7M per year ($14M total) he’d have taken to be a Yankee again, only a mil more than the cost of re-signing Ichiro.

    - Offered Martin the year and $13.3M qualifying offer he’d have accepted. If he declines and signs elsewhere, the Yanks get yet another draft pick.

    There you go:

    Gardner CF L
    Jeter SS R
    Cano 2B L
    Teixiera 1B S
    Granderson LF L
    Cabrera RF S
    Chavez/Hannahan 3B L/R
    Martin C R
    Nunez DH S

    The Yanks remain as is at C, upgrade in RF offensively and defensively, and I think upgrade at 3B at least defensively. They might need to upgrade at DH but maybe Nunez posts .280 BA, .350 OBP with 7 HR, 30 RBI, and 25 SB through the first half of the season if he plays every day, a 14 HR, 60 RBI, 50 SB pace – pretty damn good for his cost and a ninth-place hitter. Jesus Montero hit only .260 BA with a .298 OBP, 15 HR, and 62 RBI in his first full year. I think Nunez could post a better slashline and about as many RBI if not as many HR as 2012 Montero or Ibanez if given the chance to play every day.

    Signing Scott Baker and Jack Hannahan and re-signing Pettitte, Martin, Cabrera, and Chavez is hardly “greedy”, so spare me “Team Greedy” with me.

  94. Against All Odds January 3rd, 2013 at 11:54 am

    mick January 3rd, 2013 at 11:41 am
    Maybe his account was hacked
    ===================
    clever if so but tex is bland and should not be selling things either.
    if twitter is to improve your “brand” (god help us) then again get a new agent
    ————————-

    Yes he does need a personality transplant lol

  95. 4TrainNorth January 3rd, 2013 at 11:55 am

    There is simply no package we could put together that should net the likes of Stanton. The only way it happens is if the Marlins are too put off by his whining about playing on such a sucky team, and don’t want to deal with the PR mess that is a 24-year-old prima donna about to enter his prime.

  96. J. Alfred Prufrock January 3rd, 2013 at 11:57 am

    LOL, I really got nostalgic on this “Greedy” stuff and dug this up from Pro Sports Daily, 2009 on DBurch’s “Get Greedy – Get Manny” campaign idea.

    Any PSD’ers (Maybe Odds?) who posted there at the time will remember this:

    rudemechanical rudemechanical is offline
    Legend

    Join Date: Oct 2007
    Posts: 6,106
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dburch1102 View Post

    dude im serious where can I make them?

    Ok, my mind is racing. The way to go about this is get some new york based advertiser on board to front the money for production costs. The trade off is, they get their branding on it.

    We put together a guerilla campaign to get Yankee fans to wear some shirts in front of the Stadium.

    We also send a group to demonstrate outside Hank’s place in Tampa, and at Steinbrenner Field, or whatever the hell it’s called.

    We get Manny to wear one and shoot a video, which lives on You Tube. We can have him with headphones on, listening to Reggatone. We incorporate the guerilla segments into the video.

    The video has a link to advertiser’s site, where you can “order Get Greedy…Get Manny t-shirt, limited offer.’

    We third-party track it so they can’t rip DBirch off, because he coined the slogan. DBirch and advertiser split the proceeds.

    Manny gets a fat contract out of it, because the Yankees can’t resist the viral buzz and they also see the merchandising potential.

    They sign Manny.

    They buy the license from DBirch, who makes a tidy sum and gets royalties on sales, and he takes the entire Yankee PSD community out for beers….many beers.

    Oh, and of course, I’ll be collecting my agent’s fee for coming up with the viral campaign (we’ll negotiate privately).
    Reply With Quote

    http://forums.prosportsdaily.c.....038;page=8

  97. fuster January 3rd, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    kinda dumb… there’s nothing greedy about trading prospects for a guy who has proven to be as good as any of them MIGHT ever be at best, particularly as the guy is young, without an expensive contract and under team control for years to come.


Sponsored by:
 

Search

    Advertisement

    Follow

    Mobile

    Read The LoHud Yankees Blog on the go by navigating to the blog on your smartphone or mobile device's browser. No apps or downloads are required.

Advertisement

Place an ad

Call (914) 694-3581