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Thursday notes and links: Swisher, Romine, Upton

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 03, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Another quiet day for the Yankees, but there was some Yankee-related activity in Cleveland, and my friend Jordan Bastian passed along a Nick Swisher quote that didn’t make it into the Associated Press story.

“I had a wonderful time when I was in New York,” Swisher said. “What an honor to be there for the time that I was. We had an absolute blast, but we had to move on. To be in the situation we are now, representing the Cleveland Indians, I’m so excited. New York was an amazing time.”

I know things ended badly between Swisher in the fans, but if I had to guess, he’ll be cheered when he returns. Some are never going to forgive his comments of frustration with the fans, and some will never get past his postseason struggles, but it’s hard to deny that the guy played hard and played hurt throughout his four years with the Yankees.

• Despite the big league opening behind the plate, Brian Cashman once again told The Daily News that he expects Austin Romine to open the season in Triple-A. “I don’t expect him to be our everyday catcher out of the gate,” Cashman said. “He always has the possibility of taking it, but realistically, if I were in prediction mode, I’d say Triple-A. But he has a chance to alter that.”

• Giancarlo Stanton’s name is in the rumor mill, which means it’s time for Justin Upton’s name to pop up again. The Diamondbacks have more outfielders than they need and could make a deal (if not Upton, maybe a smaller Jason Kubel trade). Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi — who have been outstanding this offseason — report that the Diamondbacks “continue to send mixed signals” about whether they actually plan to trade Upton. Shortstop was a position of need for them, but they got a shortstop in the three-way Shin-Soo Choo deal.

• Former Yankees starter Javier Vazquez is considering a comeback and apparently looks pretty good in winter ball. Can’t imagine the Yankees going down that road again.

A couple of former Yankees prospects have signed with the Reds. Jeff Marquez and Kevin Whelan each got a little bit of big league time in New York. Whelan originally came to the Yankees as part of the Gary Sheffield trade.

• In other minor league transactions, the Indians have signed second baseman Matt Antonelli (former prospect who played briefly in the Yankees system last year), and the A’s have signed Brian Gordon (the guy who came out of nowhere to make a couple of spot starts for the Yankees in 2011).

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106 Responses to “Thursday notes and links: Swisher, Romine, Upton”

  1. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    @JackCurryYES: OF Slade Heathcott hit .388 with .494 OBP in 18 games in Ariz Fall Lg. Yankees love his intensity. He is likely to start 2013 at Class AA.

  2. austinmac January 3rd, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    We have talked a lot about Upton. Have any stories reported a Yankee interest or is it just is wishing?

  3. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    @JackCurryYES: Damon Oppenheimer, Yankees scouting director, said Heathcott is “impact player.” If Heathcott progresses, he could play in New York in 2013.

    Pretty crazy….but if he hits in AA then there isn’t much else to do if they really want to push him

  4. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    That could be spinning to boost trade value though too….

    Mac,

    Rosenthal, Heyman etc have mentioned that the Yanks could be interested in Upton but nothing more than just speculation…..I don’t think that means much though ….unlike the Red Sox you almost never hear anything about a move the Yanks make before it happens…..they keep things under wraps pretty well

  5. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    @JackCurryYES: Regarding Heathcott, Yankees would have to fast track him (which they don’t often do). But Oppenheimer said he could play in NY this season.

  6. kd January 3rd, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    if heathcott stays healthy, he’s a real interesting one to watch. if he hits .300 he may be the top prospect in the system

  7. ac1 January 3rd, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    Would be awesome to see Heathcott make it to the majors. It would really help with the 189M goal for 2014.

  8. tucker January 3rd, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Oppenheimer and the FO pumping Heathcott. Trade in the works?

  9. austinmac January 3rd, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    Heathcott said he finally has found a swing he is happy with. Let’s hope he moves quickly. He is a true five tool guy.

  10. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    @JackCurryYES: Oppenheimer said Montgomery has a “really sick” swing and miss slider and also has makeup to pitch at end of games. Could be Phelps of 2013

  11. austinmac January 3rd, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    Tucker,

    Yeah, there’s that.

  12. kd January 3rd, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    gotta be a trade-induced ‘boost’ to his reputation. only way he sees Yankee Stadium is if the team has no shot at the playoffs and he’s a september call-up

    only guys who’s gone from aa to the bigs were cano and wang. but they had more minor league experience

  13. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    tucker says:
    January 3, 2013 at 10:24 pm
    Oppenheimer and the FO pumping Heathcott. Trade in the works?

    It’s possible

  14. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    I like Heathcott….he’s exciting to watch….if he gets traded then it better be for somebody good

  15. blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    @AndrewMarchand: .@JackCurryYES A scout said Heathcott was best player in AZ. A stronger version of Todd Hollandsworth.

  16. tucker January 3rd, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    Or perhaps it’s just coincidence — Curry just happened to call Oppenheimer today.

    Or — and this is the move I’d orchestrate if I was the Yankees chief of PR — plant the story about the future (Heathcott) on the day the Swisher signing is announced. Control the message. Wag the dog, whatever ya want to call it. Of course, I’m probably reaching here.

  17. tucker January 3rd, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    I hope they hang on to Heathcott. As long A’s he remains healthy, I think he’s going to be a decent MLB player. And he sure is fun to watch. Intensity dripping off that prospect.

  18. Rich in NJ January 3rd, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    I typed this: “Are they pumping up Heathcott’s value for a trade?”

    Did a search on the page for “trade” and found this:

    “Oppenheimer and the FO pumping Heathcott. Trade in the works?”

    Beat me to it. Good post.

  19. Chip January 3rd, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    blake January 3rd, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    @JackCurryYES: Damon Oppenheimer, Yankees scouting director, said Heathcott is “impact player.” If Heathcott progresses, he could play in New York in 2013.

    Pretty crazy….but if he hits in AA then there isn’t much else to do if they really want to push him
    —————–

    Depending on injuries I could see it happen. If he performs. I mean it would go against the grain for them but who the hell knows at this point.

    Based on what Cashman said about not expecting Romine to be with the big club out of the gate I think they should probably get someone who has at least been a regular catcher in the majors – I don’t think Barajas is particularly good – but he has some power and if you sign him to a low base salary contract he can start with Cervelli or Stewart on the bench and then be supplanted by Romine.

  20. Chip January 3rd, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    Worth keeping in mind with the Heathcott in 13 comment though – September callups are part of the 2013 season.

    I think it’s far more likely that we see one of the Almonte’s or Melky Mesa

  21. austinmac January 3rd, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    It is not too evident in the stats, but people talk about Heathcott’s power. If he gets traded it better be for an impact guy.

  22. Nick in SF January 3rd, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    Heathcott making it to the Bronx in 2013 is about as likely as a team scoring a 1-point safety in the Fiesta Bowl.

  23. ron January 3rd, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    Keep in mind,with the never before cap restrictions,and letting players like swisher go,you are more likely to see prospects fastracked.
    If heathcott is doing well enough in AA,and gardner,ichiro,etc… are struggling,even from one side of the plate,i can see heathcott up in 2013,but keep in mind,players take time to grow,even the great ones.

  24. tucker January 3rd, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    It would be refreshing if they fasttracked Heathcott. He’s the type of hard-nosed player the bleacher creatures would love.

    But outside a September call up for Heathcott, I think Nick is correct. The Ducks are poised for a one-point safety.

  25. Rich in NJ January 3rd, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    “It is not too evident in the stats, but people talk about Heathcott’s power. If he gets traded it better be for an impact guy.”

    This where self-scouting becomes so important; Stick Michael seemed to excel at it.

    They are probably going to trade a few of their top prospects at some point, preferably next season when they have more value. The key is keep the right ones.

  26. theREALkevin January 3rd, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    I’ve loved Heathcott since day one. Guy has great tools and his personality and intensity have stood out. Just really likes the way he plays, lots of energy. Hard nosed. Yanks have sort of been straitlaced at times and could really use a guy like Heathcott on their roster.

    Now I want to go watch that clip of him in Charleston beating the **** out of Greenville’s catcher. As a matter of fact…..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPyoHBF4r38

  27. theREALkevin January 3rd, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    I also like Montgomery, but I think all the comps to Robertson are setting the bar a little high. His slider is really good but Robertson’s fastball is good amount better right now.

  28. tucker January 3rd, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    Keith Law said during the Arizona Fall League that Heathcott was not firing his hips enough to generate the power he has in that body.

    His swing looked great to me. Quick, powerful stroke with no wasted movement. He also can fly on the basepaths.

  29. Bo knows January 3rd, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    JC on a stick. Finally, the Yankees have an all around, possibly great player and they’re PRing him for an established player? Come on people. Is this a Yankee blog or safe betting? The kid is coming on strong, must be a trade shtick. Didn’t Melky start in A ball the year he got called up? Scouts said he was the best player in Arizona, by all means let’s trade him before the AA barrier.

    If it’s gearing up for a trade, I’ll trade in my Yankee hat after stomping it.

  30. Bo knows January 3rd, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    It’s a big if but if Heatcott shows he can handle AA without struggling there is no reason not to bring him up and ease him into playing time. And yes I like his swing as well, plus he’ll take a walk. His base running and defense are plus.

  31. Rich in NJ January 4th, 2013 at 12:00 am

    “Finally, the Yankees have an all around, possibly great player and they’re PRing him for an established player?”

    Is it us or them? We have increasingly seen in recent years that despite the rhetoric to the contrary, they seem intent in trading prospects in order to win-now. AJack comes to mind. He was really coming on before they moved. I’m not sure why we should expect that to change, until it actually does.

  32. Jerkface January 4th, 2013 at 12:15 am

    I’d trade Heathcott for Upton. Both have shoulder issues, but one guy is doing it in the majors. The problem with trading Montero & Ajax is that they had no one else. Heathcott, Williams, Flores, and Austin are a group who should be hitting the majors around the same time. They cannot all play OF for the yankees. Or I should say they will not.

  33. Jerkface January 4th, 2013 at 12:15 am

    Melky started in AA the year he was called up. He was actually called up from AA. There are other OFers on the 40 man & Heathcott is not, so I am not sure Heathcott would get jumped up from AA & added to the 40 man in an emergency situation like Melky.

  34. David in Cal January 4th, 2013 at 1:28 am

    The new salary penalties ought to make the Yanks keep their low-priced, promising minor-leaguers. I hope the Yanks hold onto their best prospects, even if that means two years of re-building.

  35. LordD99 January 4th, 2013 at 1:32 am

    We have increasingly seen in recent years that despite the rhetoric to the contrary, they seem intent in trading prospects in order to win-now.
    —–

    Rich in NJ, the Yankees approach is to win. Having prospects means they keep some and they trade others. If there were no Yankee-raised players on the roster then I could agree, but since Cashman took over greater control in ’06 we have seen Cano and Wang and Hughes and Joba and Nova and Gardner and Robertson all given roles on the team. They weren’t traded. They have also turned around and traded some players like A-Jax when they were in search of a LH’d, power-hitting OFer, bringing back a 40-HR hitting CFer. It’s a combination approach, unlike back in the 80s when George just traded away prospects, regardless of how good they could be or what was coming back. So they may trade Heathcott as part of a package or they might end up playing him. The Yankees right couldn’t even answer what they plan to do with their prospects. Overall, though, I think there’s a better chance they’ll let some of them try to work their way in since they need cheaper players to stay under $189M.

  36. LordD99 January 4th, 2013 at 1:44 am

    David in Cal, I agree, although I wonder how patient Yankee fans will be. Most players don’t hit their stride at the start. Bernie Williams .238/.336/.350 his first year in the Bigs and overall was a league average .262/.339/.388 his first three years. It was obvious he had skills, and was showing improvement, but it wasn’t until his fourth and fifth seasons that he was truly productive, and it wasn’t until years six and seven that he really hit his peak run. Player development can be slow. I’m glad the Yankees gave Bernie the time to develop, but I wonder how Yankee fans and many on this board would react if Heathcott came up and started his career that way? Don Mattingly hit .280 with only 4 HRs his first run through. Same thing. Fans would be screaming he doesn’t have the power to be an OFer or a 1B’man. So committing to Heathcott and Austin and others is a good idea. It just might not go as smoothly as some fans think.

  37. Rich in NJ January 4th, 2013 at 2:08 am

    LordD99

    The primary reason that the Yankees have won since ’96 (really ’94, since that is when Stick’s plan started bearing fruit) is because of the smart drafting, developing, and trades that Stick oversaw. That foundation, along with George’s money, paved the way for the juggernaut that has been able to win 5 WS, while coming very close to winning two or three more.

    Of the players you cite, only Cano stands out as a foundational player. At this point, the rest, with the possible exception of Robertson, are fungible and/or role players.

    That speaks to the failure of Cashman’s plan, not its success.

    AJack, Melky, and Montero were developed around this timeframe (Wang was not), but he short-sightedly traded them. Could they trade Granderson for AJack now? Nope. That speaks to how well that trade has worked out. When was the last time that Cashman made a good trade for a top of the rotation starting pitcher?

    So I see no reason to believe that Cashman can reconstruct a foundation that is anywhere near the one that he inherited, especially if he is constrained by a budget.

  38. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 7:15 am

    Good morning.

    Heathcott seems to have excellent tools.

    Possibly the best of all 4/5 of our young OF prospects.

    That said, if it were me, he would be the one I would look to move first.

    Why ?

    Because IMO he is an injury waiting to happen and his value is high right now.

    The kid plays baseball like football. At his young age he has already had multiple surgeries. That’s a nindication of his style of play.

    All out.

    He might turn out to be as good as a guy like Ellsbury or GGBG but like them I’d expect he’d spend about as much time on the DL.

    It’s possible he learns to protect himself a bit more but I kind of doubt it.

    That’s the reason I’d move him now. Before he really hurts himself
    trying to impress people.

    As far as trading prospects go my motto is “Trade some of the best. Keep the rest.”

    Rich-

    Agree with you. Stick seems to have been the best at self-scouting.

    This current crew has fallen down.

    That needs to be fixed. Can’t be left alone. It’s too important.

  39. GregD January 4th, 2013 at 7:19 am

    ron January 3rd, 2013 at 11:17 pm
    Keep in mind,with the never before cap restrictions,and letting players like swisher go,you are more likely to see prospects fastracked.

    ———————————–
    if the Yanks want to keep payroll below the limit…..they are going to have to move these guys up

  40. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 7:20 am

    The Yankees should keep one of Heathcott or Williams, and one of Austin or Flores.

    The other 2 should be used in trades when the time is right.

    That will give them one CF prospect, and one corner guy.

    Overhugging prospects can be as dangerous as underhugging them.

    Both can be a waste of inherent value to a team.

  41. blake January 4th, 2013 at 7:36 am

    “The kid plays baseball like football”

    So does Mike trout.” ;)

    I like Heathcott just as much and maybe more than Mason just in the limited amoun I’ve seen them…..I really liked what I saw from Slade in the AFL…..he just wreaked havoc…..he looked like he has an approach….looked like he could use the whole field…. Was fearless on the base paths etc…..

    Now that may make him injury prone but hopefully he will mature and start playin a bit safer.

    Mason looks great….but he’s still got some filling out to do and Heathcott is at least a year closer to the bigs.

    Id trade either in the right deal so long as I got to keep the other though…..however keeping Heathcott may allow you to shop Gardner as Heathcott could be ready next year

  42. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 7:43 am

    Blake-

    Yes. Trout does play all out but he doesn’t seem to injure himself as much doing so.

    Heathcott has already had multiple surgeries as a result of his style of play.

    I have no idea why one guy can get away it and another can’t but that seems to be the case.

    It might be body build, or just plain luck. No idea.

    My real point was that it’s a waste of resources to try to keep all 4 guys.

    One or two are likely to have more value in trade.

    Which ones exactly I leave up to others but I do think the herd needs to be thinned at some point.

    Doing nothing is equally as bad as doing too much.

    ;)

  43. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 7:44 am

    I’ve started my own group.

    It’s called “Team Balance”.

    You can join if you like.

    It’s an offshoot of “Team Greedy”.

    ;)

  44. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 7:48 am

    Can a “group” be composed of just 1 person ?

    Is it then a “group” ?

    Doesn’t it take at least 2 ?

    :)

  45. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    1 is after all “the lonliest # since the #2″.

    Especially according to “3 dog night”.

    :)

  46. RadioKev January 4th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    Interesting insight into the organization’s evaluation of Heathcott. I wouldn’t get too excited though. The kid still has to stay healthy, make it happen, and then have the circumstance to play in the bigs.

  47. blake January 4th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    MTU,

    you’re a one man show anyway :)

  48. jmills January 4th, 2013 at 7:54 am

    OK Blue Jays,uh…..I mean, MTU. I’m still in a foul ( no pun intended ) mood after Darren Oliver’s apparent stance. Over paid babies and over priced parking and hot dogs and kids left without a wave. I’m going back to read my bio on Gilles Villeneuve who would’ve driven in formula 1 for free he was that passionate.

  49. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 7:55 am

    Kev-

    He could also be being “hyped” for trade after having been “showcased” in the AFL.

    That’s common.

    Guess we’ll find out what the real truth is at some point.

    ;)

  50. blake January 4th, 2013 at 7:55 am

    from the few games I saw of Heathcott I would agree with Law that he often doesn’t fire his hips as much as he could….his swing looks good at times but looks very much like Gardner at others just kinda slashing at the ball…..usually this is when he tries to go the other way…..he’s got big time upside IMO….like Grady Sizemore (not hurt addition)

  51. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 7:57 am

    Blake-

    Maybe the hurt edition though.

    That’s the point.

    ;)

  52. RadioKev January 4th, 2013 at 7:57 am

    Yeah MTU, it’s possible. I don’t really think Oppenheimer’s comments are about to convince any GMs or evaluators out there, but it’s a possibility.

    I get why folks would think that, but I still don’t think we’re in position to trade for Upton or Stanton, and who else would you trade Heathcott for?

  53. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 7:58 am

    The excesses of our youth often come back to haunt us as we age.

  54. RadioKev January 4th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    So is Austin also on track to take a swing in the bigs this year?

  55. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:03 am

    Kev-

    “who else would you trade Heathcott for?”

    That remains to be seen. How does any entity use “money” ?

    The answer:

    For whatever is needed, and whenever it is.

    The specifics are not important right now. Just the concept.

    ;)

  56. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:04 am

    Mac-

    Most of these guys still have a ways to go.

    ;)

  57. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:09 am

    The Yankee way to check prospects seems to be to throw them into the deep end of the pool and see if they sink or swim.

    Maybe there are other methods ?

    Ones that work as well, or possibly even better.

    ;)

  58. blake January 4th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    MTU,

    that’s a fair point….but I don’t necessarily think that he’ll always get hurt…..the shoulder thing seems to be behind him now. They do need to sit him down though as say listen we love how you play the game but you’re gonna have to stop running in to things

  59. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    Blake-

    Can you really change the spots on a Leopard ?

    I wonder.

    ;)

  60. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    Would Rowand stop running walls because they talked to him ?

    Will GGBG or Ellsbury stop diving for balls ?

    Will Ichiro stop stretching before each at bat ?

    Is Posey gonna stop blocking the plate now ?

    Most guys don’t change their essential natures all that much from what I can tell.

    The seeds of greatness and disaster can be 2 sides of the same coin.

    It’s someone’s job to be able to read that well.

    Certainly not mine.

    :)

  61. RadioKev January 4th, 2013 at 8:17 am

    Will Ichiro stop stretching before each at bat ?
    ——-

    Maybe if everyone stretched like Ichiro they would be as durable

  62. blake January 4th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    he can stop running over the catcher every game…..I wouldn’t want him to stop playing hard….just be a little smarter.

  63. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:20 am

    Kev-

    My point was about “habits”. Good ones or bad.

    Blake-

    Maybe smarter isn’t in Heathcott’s vocabulary but “hard” is ?

    ;)

  64. BIG AL January 4th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    MTU -

    I like a balanced approach, so I’ll join your group.

  65. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    Maybe I should have said “instincts” instead of “habits” ?

    You can change habits sometimes but you cannot change instincts.

    ;)

  66. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    Thank you Al.

    Good to have company.

    I think Rich is already in too.

    :)

  67. BIG AL January 4th, 2013 at 8:27 am

    Back to Team Greedy, I want Stanton. How often does such an impact player become available, and at only 23, he could be the beginning of a bright future for the Yankees.

  68. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Al-

    Perhaps we have our own version of Stanton just waiting in the wings ?

    There are those who may think so.

  69. Yankee Trader January 4th, 2013 at 8:32 am

    Good morning

    Why does everyone want Giancarlo Stanton? No speed. 6 stolen bases in 8 attempts, one measly triple! :)

  70. austinmac January 4th, 2013 at 8:32 am

    I have seen Heathcott very little and only video of Williams. Heathcott can take a Gardner slap type of swing. They say in BP he can put on a show. Of course, so can Ichiro’s so I don’t know if it translates into games. It hasn’t yet.

    Williams looks so frail. He looks like a center fielder. I have my doubts he is built for power.

    I wish someone would report the Yankees are talking with the D-Backs. The Pineda trade did come out of the blue, but as much as the reporters are watching this, I wonder if it wouldn’t leak on the D-Backs part.

    I will believe it when I see it. I do wish LaRoche would sign maybe breaking a log jam.

  71. BIG AL January 4th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    YT -

    I sure hope you’re a kidder. Stanton is a monster bat, go and look at his stats, they speak for themselves.

  72. austinmac January 4th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    YT,

    Because we secretly like the long ball and Stanton had five of the twenty longest from last year. That would be fun to watch. I think I will have to watch them on highlight reels since he isn’t coming.

  73. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    YT-

    Because he has a really, really cool name.

    It’s got nothing to do with his youth or ability.

    :)

  74. Yankee Trader January 4th, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Kidding aside. If Stanton is traded wouldn’t it be likely that the Rangers would take a crack at getting him? Don’t the Marlins need just about everything?

  75. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    YT-

    Depends on who needs what, and who has what.

    I know that’s kind of cryptic but there it is.

    ;)

  76. austinmac January 4th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    MTU,

    I too join your desire for balance. As you know, without balance one can fall off a cliff.

    Cashman was reported to make some comment about the fans being happy this year since they lost many home runs and would be less dependent on hem. That argument irritates me. No one doesn’t want power. We would like some of your balance. Or how about a power hitter cutting down on his swing with two strikes?

  77. BIG AL January 4th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    Stanton -

    BA – .290, OBP – .361, SLG – .608, OPS – .969, OPS+ – 158, HR 37 (93 in the 3 ML seasons), and YT asks why would we want Stanton – WOW!

  78. Yankee Trader January 4th, 2013 at 8:41 am

    Gentlemen-

    The Yankees already had Mike Stanton! Of course I jest. He should be traded, because the Marlins are going nowhere for years in the NL East. However wouldn’t the Rangers have the most to give to replace the lost run production from losing Hamilton and getting Stanton?

  79. blake January 4th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    “Williams looks so frail. He looks like a center fielder. I have my doubts he is built for power.”

    yea I haven’t seen him recently and word was that he had filled out…..but man did he look little last spring. All the projections on him seem to be with the caveat that he’ll fill out and develop 10-15 HR power…..maybe he will….

  80. austinmac January 4th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    Al,

    I agree. Who wouldn’t want Stanton. The problem is too many teams do, and a number of them have ready prospects. If I am the Rangers, I would move Profar, Olt plus for him.

  81. blake January 4th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    If I’m Texas and the Marlins will do Profar, Olt, and Perez or something like that for Stanton then I’m doing it……I think Profar is going to be a star and I’d hate to trade him…..but when you already have Andrus and Beltre then I’m making that deal for a guy that seriously could average 45+ homers a year in that ballpark for the next 10 years……or until the Dodgers steal him away.

  82. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    Mac-

    If the Yankees want a great recent model to pattern themselves after it should not be the Rays.

    It should be the Dynasty teams.

    How were they assembled ?

    Great combinations of Farm guys along with strategic acquisitions.

    Multi-dimensional hitting approach. Balanced attack.

    Good Pitching.

    “Balanced”.

    Shoot for that again. Don’t be an “either/or” Team.

    ;)

  83. Yankee Trader January 4th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    BIG AL-

    Relax. Giancarlo Stanton is the kind of player that would re-energize the Yankee fan base both here and in attendance. Of course I want him! :)

  84. blake January 4th, 2013 at 8:45 am

    Upton is much more realistic for the Yankees IMO…..his value is down because of his 2012 and the money he’s owed while cheap in AAV for the Yankees could be a turn off for a lot of teams that don’t pay luxury tax……the Yanks actually might could build a package to get Upton…..I don’t think they realistically could for Stanton

  85. austinmac January 4th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    I am looking very much forward to seeing the young guys this spring and following them through the season. For the first time ever it may be more fun to watch. If we don’t have a big year in the minors, well we are clearly in deep waters with no life raft.

  86. BIG AL January 4th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    The new balanced approach – The top 5 batters each hit .300 or better, and average 25 HR’s each, the bottom 4 average .265 and average 10 HR’s each. The SP average 17 wins each, with an ERA under .400, and the bullpen has an ERA of under .300. Now that’s the balance I could live with, lol. :)

  87. austinmac January 4th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    MTU,

    Balance requires a willingness to spend money. Instead they will try to balance severe youth with severe age next year and maybe beyond.

  88. Yankee Trader January 4th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    This is the Marlins projected 25 man roster and lineup.

    Juan Pierre and Placido Polanco and Jeff Mathis are in it!

    http://www.mlbdepthcharts.com/.....-team.html

  89. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    Blake-

    Maybe “Lost” will hear something this week on JU.

    He said he’d let us know if he did.

    Sounds like Hal has been busy shooting down ideas that involve money though.

    Lost also said something about JU being like a Sheffield or Johnson
    personality wise to the Yankees.

    I kind of doubt that but it is possible. The Yankees seem to like choirboys these days.

    ;)

  90. austinmac January 4th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    Al,

    You are talking my talk with that lineup. Be careful or people will criticize you for wanting an all star at every position. Personally, I have always thought the more good players the better.

  91. Shame Spencer January 4th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    Morning all! Did we sign DeJesus yet?

  92. BIG AL January 4th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    “I kind of doubt that but it is possible. The Yankees seem to like choirboys these days.”

    No wonder I never got a call up. :)

  93. austinmac January 4th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    I recall my brother joining the choir for a girl. Al, you were probably that kind of choir boy.

  94. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Mac-

    I agree. Part of the equation means spending money. Wisely.

    Right now that portion of the formula has been severely restricted if not deleted altogether.

    I’m confident it will return at some point.

    Hope we do not sink too far beforehand.

    ;)

  95. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Al-

    Must be my problem too.

    Among other things.

    ;)

  96. Yankee Trader January 4th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Back to Justin Upton. The Rangers and Braves plus the Mariners have been rumored to have inquired on Upton, and Seattle is on his no trade list, which I know means nothing.

    Let’s say the Rangers use their major league ready prospects to get Stanton. The Braves searching for a leadoff hitter, resign Michael Bourn to a one year contract. Despite the fences moving in 4 feet in right, and 17 feet in left, Upton refuses to go to Seattle.

    Now the Yankees swoop in and grab Justin Upton. The question is now, what would it take?

  97. BIG AL January 4th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    mac -

    I don’t give a damm what people say, I want the best player available at each position, the best starting 5, and the most solid bullpen I can put together. If those that lose to the Yankees cry, “The Yankees are buying championships”, I’d say, that’s right, them that can do, and to hell with the rest of the teams.

  98. blake January 4th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    “Lost also said something about JU being like a Sheffield or Johnson
    personality wise to the Yankees.”

    maybe….but that’s kinda against the other accounts I’ve heard…..

  99. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    YT-

    Why don’t you tell us ?

    :)

  100. BIG AL January 4th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    The New York Yankees, America’s Team, with the very same budget problems, lol.

  101. blake January 4th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    “Now the Yankees swoop in and grab Justin Upton. The question is now, what would it take?”

    I’m guessitmating a package of Sanchez, Mason/Heathcott and then probably either Nova or Phelps……just a guess…..it might take more if other teams bid high.

  102. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Blake-

    That’s why I said I kinda doubt he’s that way but the Yankees may think so and their info. is waaaaaaay better than ours.

    So there’s that.

    ;)

  103. BIG AL January 4th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Don’t get me wrong, I like JU, but, he’ll never be, IMO, an impact player to the degree of Stanton. Before I empty the farm for Upton, I’d rather wait to see what I already have in AAA and AA coming very soon. There is something about Upton that concerns me, and for me, I’d pass.

  104. Yankee Trader January 4th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    MTU-

    Just what do the DBacks need? Signed Brandon McCarthy for rotation depth. Traded for Heath Bell for set up or closer role with incumbent JJ Putz. Got a SS in trade and have a platoon at 3rd with Johnson and Chavez. More pitching and another SS?

  105. MTU January 4th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    New one —->

  106. austinmac January 4th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Al,

    The last thing I ever worried about is people complaining about the team spending their own money. The complainers are simply jealous. Much like I am of other teams now.

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