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The true mystery of the Yankees bench

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 08, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

One thing I thought about after writing this morning’s post…

As the roster stands right now, there’s not a single player who I’m legitimately confident will be on the Yankees bench this season. Not one player who I’d be stunned to see them crossed off the list as an Opening Day reserve.

At this time last year, we could be reasonably confident that Andruw Jones, Eduardo Nunez and Francisco Cervelli were going to make up three-fourths of the bench. When Cervelli was bumped, it was a legitimately stunning, didn’t-see-that-coming situation.

This year? No such player. Not one.

Here’s the list: David Adams, Russ Canzler, Francisco Cervelli, Matt Diaz, Corban Joseph, Melky Mesa, Ronnier Mustelier, Jayson Nix, Eduardo Nunez, Austin Romine, Chris Stewart, Gil Velazquez, Bobby Wilson

Is there anyone from that list who you’d be stunned — hard to imagine a scenario in which it would happen — to see him not making the Yankees bench on Opening Day?

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101 Responses to “The true mystery of the Yankees bench”

  1. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Hopefully this team stays relatively healthy because an injury to almost anyone in that lineup could be deadly… those guys are all either young/unproven or terrible.

    And on a much happier note since I haven’t been in here for a while, HOCKEY.

  2. DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    I refuse to get “jazzed” about millionaires\hockey players that decide to Finally report for work. What’s the current unemployment rate?

  3. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 11:13 am
    I refuse to get “jazzed” about millionaires\hockey players that decide to Finally report for work. What’s the current unemployment rate?
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    I hate it too but the NFL and NBA did the same thing in the past 2 years. I’m not spending money on games or merchandise for a while but hockey is probably my favorite sport even over baseball and I enjoy watching it. I survived without it.. had no effect on me. Actually saved me money. This is the reality of sports today.

  4. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    They wasted Nunez on the bench in 2011 rather than having him learn various positions at AAA. I actually wanted Nunez on the bench that year, but I can recall Jerkface and LGY saying he would be better off at AAA getting PT. I can admit I was wrong. Can the Yankees?

    That is one more example that the series of one year plans, rather than a strategy, is really hurting this team.

  5. CountryClub January 8th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    The NFL and NHL players were locked out by the owners. The players were happy to play under the current rules. The owners wanted new rules. I can’t remember if the NBA player walked out or were locked out.

  6. CountryClub January 8th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Considering the makeup of the team (left handed heavy), I’d be shocked if Nunez doesn’t make the 25 man roster.

  7. Yankee Trader January 8th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Apparently Braun’s testosterone/epitestosterone ratio was off the charts. Although I have no idea of how much higher than a ratio of 6/1 it was, it’s quite possible that the sample was tainted in some way.

    Austinmac-

    I wonder if most mlb contracts have moral turpitude clauses in them that would allow for teams to render contracts null and void. I know that steroid abuse would not fall under that category, but that clause would protect teams in case a player was convicted of a crime, of moral terpitude, which has various meanings.

    Any thoughts?

  8. Yankee Trader January 8th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    I wouldn’t be surprised that Wilson and Cervelli go north with the team, Romine is sent to AAA and Stewart is waived.

  9. Nick in SF January 8th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    “…players that decide to Finally report for work.”

    It was a lockout, much as Notre Dame was locked out of the end zone for the majority of last night’s football game.

  10. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    That is one more example that the series of one year plans, rather than a strategy, is really hurting this team.
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    It’s been discussed a lot on here but the budget scares me for 2 reasons. 1) There is so much money tied into a couple players that 189 million isn’t what it seems 2) I don’t know if the current front office can handle operating with limited money and develop the necessary players to fill any holes.

    A lot of pressure is on Williams, Heathcott, Austin, etc. to be productive major leaguers early on and have at least 1-2 develop into stars.

  11. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Nick in SF January 8th, 2013 at 11:21 am
    “…players that decide to Finally report for work.”

    It was a lockout, much as Notre Dame was locked out of the end zone for the majority of last night’s football game.
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    Was there a game last night? I just remember Musburger salivating over McCarron’s girlfriend.

  12. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    “A lot of pressure is on Williams, Heathcott, Austin, etc. to be productive major leaguers early on and have at least 1-2 develop into stars.”

    I agree, along with their pitching hopefuls (I can’t call them all prospects) like Pineda, Nova, Banuelos, and even Phelps, a bunch of these guys have to take quantum leaps in development in order for this team not to sink really far really fast, if the austerity budget is enduring.

    Of course, they could bank on their older/declining players rediscovering their prior level of production, but that may be an even bigger ask.

  13. DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    I’ve Yet to hear a motive, or scientific reason based on the way the sample was handled, for the level of Braun’s test.

  14. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    I can’t remember if the NBA player walked out or were locked out.

    ==============================

    Speaking of NBA, I kinda thought Melo was past the stage where someone could turn him into a puddle. Garnett is a bit of a loudmouth, but he got Melo’s head and rendered him useless over the last 10 minutes of the game……..and beyond apparently.

  15. Nick in SF January 8th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    There was some semblance of a game, one-sided as it was. I found it entertaining from a clinical perspective and because I bet on Alabama — the squawking of the Notre Dame supporters was never convincing. But it was hardly suspenseful.

    Bissinger’s Christmas cookies went over very well. Wish I still had some.

  16. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    I just remember Musburger salivating over McCarron’s girlfriend.

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    That was bordering on creepy. I think Disney got to the network at halftime. Didn’t see much of the young lady in the 2nd half.

  17. DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    - REASONS FOR BAMA WIN -

    (1) OFFENSIVE LINE – McCarron coulda thrown for Over 500 yards.

    (2) GOLSON – Played like a red shirt freshman in the 1st half. Game was too fast for him.

    (3) TE’O – Rubber chicken circuit musta done damage. Bama ran over and around him All night.

  18. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Bissinger’s Christmas cookies went over very well. Wish I still had some.
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    Glad that they shipped well. We’ll have to work on those toasted ravioli next!

  19. Ys Guy January 8th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    is it considered moral turpitude if you have more than one painting of yourself as a centaur?

  20. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    There was some semblance of a game, one-sided as it was. I found it entertaining from a clinical perspective and because I bet on Alabama — the squawking of the Notre Dame supporters was never convincing. But it was hardly suspenseful

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    Was surprised at the general lack of line movement. Was pretty much 9.5-10 for 40 days. Figured the masses might bet Bama up to 11-11.5, but no dice. Guess Notre Dame being the proverbial “public team” kept the money (and the spread) pretty level.

  21. blake January 8th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Notre Dame looked like what they were….a team playing somebody much better than anybody they’d played all year

  22. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    AAA January 8th, 2013 at 11:29 am
    I just remember Musburger salivating over McCarron’s girlfriend.

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    That was bordering on creepy. I think Disney got to the network at halftime. Didn’t see much of the young lady in the 2nd half.
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    Lol yah. There are a few times that Musburger does that and Herbstreit just goes silent. I heard she went from under 1,000 followers on twitter to over 100,000 just last night..

  23. blake January 8th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    The reason Bama won was because they are a lot better than Notre Dame is…..

  24. Ys Guy January 8th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    ““A lot of pressure is on Williams, Heathcott, Austin, etc. to be productive major leaguers early on and have at least 1-2 develop into stars”
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    don’t think ‘pressure’ think ‘opportunity’

  25. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Notre Dame looked like what they were….a team playing somebody much better than anybody they’d played all year

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    Yeah, this.

  26. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    Ys Guy January 8th, 2013 at 11:34 am
    ““A lot of pressure is on Williams, Heathcott, Austin, etc. to be productive major leaguers early on and have at least 1-2 develop into stars”
    =======================================
    don’t think ‘pressure’ think ‘opportunity’
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    The potential for the opportunity is there if the Yanks don’t ship them away. If things go according to plan, I think that both ‘pressure’ and ‘opportunity’ fit this situation.

  27. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    A lot of pressure is on Williams, Heathcott, Austin, etc. to be productive major leaguers early on and have at least 1-2 develop into stars”

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    Think the actual pressure will be on the Yankees not to push them too quickly, even in the event of the big club struggling a little bit.

  28. austinmac January 8th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    You folks asked good questions about the AROD situation that I can’t answer.

    Is using steroids a violation of some morality provision? It was illegal, but I am not sure that is enough. DWIs and the like don’t cause contracts to be voided.

    I would speculate the Yankees considered whether to try to void the contract, decided it was no sure thing, considered the ramifications of losing and having a disgruntled player to whom you owed $200+ and decided to hope for the best.

    I am not sure I disagree with that, but I would have sure pressured them to eliminate the home run bonuses in return for not trying to void the contract. For all we really know, they did. I am not sure that would be public knowledge.

  29. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    Te’o’s draft stock shot way down after last night. He was seen as a guy who could play in close spaces and a sure tackler before the game. That was an NFL o-line and 2 NFL running backs who absolutely destroyed him. He was a step slow all night.

    Also, I thought it was extremely interesting to see the reactions that Golson had all night. You could just tell that he’d never seen a defense that big and fast in his life. Bama will start the season #1 again next year so even if they lose 1 game but still win the SEC they’ll probably be right back in the title game.. and I see them almost always qualifying for that 4 team playoff.. scary dynasty.

  30. austinmac January 8th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    I don’t pretend to have any scientific or laboratory expertise, but it is pretty fundamental that specimens must be handled in very specific ways. Alcohol and drug tests in criminal courts are dismissed if not done in accordance with protocol.

  31. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    AAA January 8th, 2013 at 11:36 am
    A lot of pressure is on Williams, Heathcott, Austin, etc. to be productive major leaguers early on and have at least 1-2 develop into stars”

    =======================================

    Think the actual pressure will be on the Yankees not to push them too quickly, even in the event of the big club struggling a little bit.
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    I think there is pressure on both sides. The problem with the Yanks is that they still have to remain competitive regardless of the team that they have on the field.. there’s no way that a bad Yanks team fills the stadium with those ticket prices. They might not have to win the WS every year but they at least have to have some bright spots to keep people coming. Those bright spots are quickly going to be those prospects especially once Jeter is gone.

  32. blake January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Notre Dame had a great season but they would have lost 3 or 4 games in the SEC and that’s just the way it is and the difference between difficulty of the schedules right now …..it’s why a playoff is needed so badly….to actually get the 2 teams that should be in the title game in there….or at least to weed out teams that don’t belong beforehand

  33. austinmac January 8th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    They talked so much last night about Notre Dame missing tackles they normally make. The difference was the running backs. I doubt they saw anyone like those two guys.

    I agree on Te’o’s draft stock. He lost some serious money.

  34. blake January 8th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    “They talked so much last night about Notre Dame missing tackles they normally make. The difference was the running backs. I doubt they saw anyone like those two guys.”

    Yea I think it was more that they just couldn’t tackle them than it was them missing tackles

  35. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    I think there is pressure on both sides.

    ===========================

    Probably right, but I think it’s on the Yankees to make sure that they don’t do something with these kids that’ll end up doing more harm than good. Delicate balance there.

  36. DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Yea, and since that dectective ran around with OJ’s bloody shoes in his trunk for a couple days, they were thrown outta court. Doesn’t mean the DNA was wrong.
    Notre Dame defeated Stanford, Oklahoma, and Michigan. They had a tough schedule. If it was me, I would have a 6 team Playoff, and give the #1 and #2 ranked teams a bye in RD1.

  37. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Probably right, but I think it’s on the Yankees to make sure that they don’t do something with these kids that’ll end up doing more harm than good. Delicate balance there.
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    Absolutely, which brings me back to my concern about the front office in general. There have definitely been decisions with various players that have been questionable over the past few years (ranging from Joba to Nunez). Hopefully it all works out.

  38. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    “Absolutely, which brings me back to my concern about the front office in general. There have definitely been decisions with various players that have been questionable over the past few years (ranging from Joba to Nunez). Hopefully it all works out.”

    It’s often said that even great coaches get stale if they are in one place to long. The current GM has been here since 1998, and as an assistant or some Costanza type of role even before that. It’s time for a change.

  39. DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Cashman was OK as long as he had George’s blank checks to bail him out. Now that those checks are gone, Cashman is a perfect example of The Peter Principle.

  40. randy l. January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    “Alcohol and drug tests in criminal courts are dismissed if not done in accordance with protocol.”

    hundreds of convictions have been overturned in the past few months in ma because of a lab person doing shoddy work. lots of people released from long term jail terms.

  41. blake January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    It’s no accident that a team from the SEC has won every year since 2005…..that gauntlet they have to go through to get to the title game sharpens them and they are just better than everyone else by the end of the season

  42. blake January 8th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    @AndrewMarchand: Yankees are pessimistic about signing Hairston. Feeling is he will get more ABs elsewhere.

  43. Warning Track Power January 8th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Unsure if anybody else around here feels the same, but I’m not concerned about the Yankees bench on Jan 8, 2013.
    If today was April 8 and the situation was the same, then of course everybody would
    have reason to be concerned.
    These sort of situation work themselves out almost all the time, so I’m going to remain patient
    and let Cashman do his job.

  44. bruceb January 8th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Good comments on the BCS blowout last night. I feared it could be men against boys and so it proved.

    At least it ended once and for all any lingering arguments that Manti Te’o should have won the Heisman over Johnny Football. Te’o was flattened by the Bama offense while Manziel was the only QB to find a way to stem the Crimson Tide this season.

    As for the Knicks, despite their great start to the season they’ve come up small in the two biggest games so far – the Lakers on Christmas Day and the understrength Celtics last night. Didn’t like seeing Melo spit his dummy out either when things didn’t go his way. Not a good sign for the playoffs.

  45. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    I’m way more concerned about the starters than the bench

  46. Rich in NJ January 8th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    “Cashman was OK as long as he had George’s blank checks to bail him out. Now that those checks are gone, Cashman is a perfect example of The Peter Principle.”

    Although it’s undeniable that George’s money enabled some of Cashman’s best decision (and erased his bad ones), George’s interference also prevented Cashman from spending the money more wisely, like choosing Vlad instead of Sheffield or Beltran over Randy Johnson. Plus, Cashman overseeing the mL system is still better than anything they did post-1992 (it’s not close to pre-1992).

    But he has gotten stale, cynical, and almost comically defensive, and it’s time to move on as long as someone like Eppler doesn’t replace him.

    It has to be a person with the proven ability to build a team from scratch, preferably with a small payroll.

  47. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    The thing that is most amazing to me about Bama is how deep they truly are and how they reload so quickly. I think it rivals some of Pete Carroll’s USC teams and they might even be better… Cooper looks like a Julio Jones clone and I’d draft TJ Yeldon to be my fantasy running back next year if he wasn’t only a sophomore… and that’s after losing a Heisman winner and Richardson in back to back years. This could rival the greatest dynasties in all of sports.

  48. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Notre Dame defeated Stanford, Oklahoma, and Michigan. They had a tough schedule. If it was me, I would have a 6 team Playoff, and give the #1 and #2 ranked teams a bye in RD1.

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    Yeah, but as it turned out, Michigan and Oklahoma were very flawed teams. Stanford was a very good team and a win they can hang their hat on. Most of their schedule was crap though.

    I think Notre Dame was probably the 6th or 7th best team this year overall. I’d put ‘em behind Bama, A&M, Georgia, Ohio State and Oregon for sure. Maybe one or two others.

  49. DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    NCAA needs to radically reduce the lag time from the end of the reg. season till the 2014 BCS Playoffs begin. I would also Not Announce any awards, (Heisman included) until After the Championship Game.

  50. DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    You discredit yourself when you say the ND schedule “was crap”. They defeated 3 teams that ended the season in the Top 20 or 25 depending on what poll you scan.

  51. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    blake January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 am
    It’s no accident that a team from the SEC has won every year since 2005…..that gauntlet they have to go through to get to the title game sharpens them and they are just better than everyone else by the end of the season
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    ND tried to load up the schedule this year.. I remember preseason talk about them struggling to even go 8-5 because of how many good teams they played. Unfortunately for them, a lot of those teams underachieved once the actual season began (USC, Mich St., even Oklahoma).

  52. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    NCAA needs to radically reduce the lag time from the end of the reg. season till the 2014 BCS Playoffs begin

    ================================

    Don’t care about the awards or when they’re announced, but agree there should not be 40 days between end of the regular season and playing a championship. Just crazy.

  53. Tyler January 8th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    I think Notre Dame was probably the 6th or 7th best team this year overall. I’d put ‘em behind Bama, A&M, Georgia, Ohio State and Oregon for sure. Maybe one or two others.
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    I think South Carolina and LSU (even though they lost to Clemson in the bowl game) could play with Notre Dame also. I think Ohio State with Miller at QB and Meyer as coach is the best chance to stop the SEC streak. Oregon is always solid but I still remember a bad Auburn d stopping their attack. I don’t think they could handle an SEC team over 4 quarters.

  54. randy l. January 8th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    “It has to be a person with the proven ability to build a team from scratch, preferably with a small payroll.”

    the yankees won’t make a move until they fall apart. no way will they be proactive.

    it will have to be a giant backlash against a yankee team that has bad results.

    they won 95 games last year and went two rounds in the playoffs , so management can still talk some smack.

    and in 2013, with the pitching, they still may be able to have a team good enough to spin.

    but 2014 is where the real trouble likely hits home.

    there are too many good posters on this blog who think the team is in trouble for it not to be a concern. i thing the idea that the yankees are in a downward spiral will gain traction with the average fan as the summer goes on and more and more talk of 2014 takes place.

    especially with cano and hughes if he has a good season. talk of not signing either of them will expose management. combine this with a bad record and the yankees will be in trouble.

    that’s when a change in management will be made . not before though.

  55. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    You discredit yourself when you say the ND schedule “was crap”.

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    Purdue, Michigan State, Wake Forest, Navy, Boston College, BYU, Navy?

    Garbage.

  56. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    As I said Notre would probably have lost 3 or 4 games in the SEC…..they may have been a top 10 team but there can be a wide gulf in talent and depth between the top 2 or 3 teams and like the 8th or 9th or so…..as evidenced last night

  57. tomingeorgia January 8th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    10 more seconds, and it would have been Georgia doing roughly the same thing to ND.

  58. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Laroche is taking Nats deal.

    Now it’s on for Morse.

  59. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    AAA says:
    January 8, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Laroche is taking Nats deal.

    Now it’s on for Morse.

    Get Morse get morse

  60. DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Ohio State ranked #4? You better take a look at their schedule.

  61. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    @Buster_ESPN: Presumably, the Nationals will at least follow up on their conversations with other teams about Mike Morse.

  62. Duh Innings II January 8th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    An article in today’s New York Post about A-Rod reports that A-Rod won’t be back until at least after the All-Star Game break (7/19) but my guess is he returns on or after 8/1.

    The Yanks should just have him on the disabled list for the entire year and ask him to take half his remaining salary paid at 50% a year for the next four years to go away. He receives $28M for doing nothing in 2013 then another $43M at $12.5M, $10.5M, $10M, and $10M a year 2014-17 for doing nothing for the Yankees, the Yanks clear $43M 2014-17 including $12.5M for 2014.

    A-Rod would recoup X amount of the money he lost in the buyout by signing with someone else. ‘Say he’s a full-time DH from 2014 on and plays six more years – why not since he’s not playing the field anymore? If he made $30M (an average of just $5M a year), he makes back $30M of the $43M lost in the buyout, a $13M loss in guaranteed salary. If he averaged just 18 homeruns a year 2014-19 for 108 homeruns plus the 647 homeruns he already has, he’d have 755 homeruns through 2019/age 43. He just comes back to collect six more homeruns and become the homerun king in 2020. He loses his homerun milestone bonuses but who says he couldn’t be given bonuses for HRs #714, 755, 762, and 763?

    Seattle would be the logical destination for him. Seattle will have no everyday gate draw for 2014 and will in all likelihood trade Felix Hernandez before or during 2014 or lose him to free agency after 2014 thus have no gate draw period in or after 2014. Enter A-Rod. A-Rod re-signs with them for 2014 only. He is made the full-time DH. Healthy after a year off, he posts 24 HR and 83 RBI. He collects his 3000th hit as a Mariner (since he has 2901 hits through 2013) in 2014. He inches a little closer to Bonds.

  63. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Logan and Flores or something for Morse

  64. G. Love January 8th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    randy,

    At the stadium already last season the feeling that the Yankees were in trouble had gained plenty of traction. Outside of the fans who were just happy to be out for the day, the fans who were a little more passionate about the team were very down on this offense. I never sensed anyone being ticked off at the pitching, but the hitters like Tex, Arod, Martin, Swisher, Grandy had all worn out their welcome with a lot of fans. For the first time in a long time people openly expected failure from the heart of the order. That didn’t happen because people were depressed or unhappy with their lives as some savant’s will like tell all of us, it happened because the team and the players it paid the most to hit kept coming up short again and again.

    This new Yankee team, minus Swisher and Martin, has to change the perception that this is a bunch of guys who can’t hit when they need to. Fans have seen this group make enough mediocre pitching look like Cy Young’s to be confident about their long range chances. They didn’t go into a slump in the playoffs. They hit exactly like they usually do until they run in a beer league laffer during the season to pad their stats.

    All that said, Cashman and the team have done nothing to instill hope that there will be change. Youkilis was a nice Arod sub, but him alone and a healthy Gardner hardly make you feel they’ve reloaded.

    There will be excitement around Spring Training and Opening Day, but if the troika of Tex, Grandy and Cano don’t come out of the gate raking and helping this team win, it will get ugly.

    I’m confident about Cano and Grandy because they’re both in contract years. Tex I’ve almost given up hope on. I don’t know what his stats are when Arod isn’t in the lineup to be the focal point when they struggle, but just from a feeling I have from watching all the games I bet his numbers with no Arod are a whole lot worse than his already declining numbers.

  65. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    @DCameronFG: Assuming Nats can turn Morse into a decent reliever, I’d rather have LaRoche/reliever than Morse/cash.

  66. Shame Spencer January 8th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    austinmac January 8th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    You folks asked good questions about the AROD situation that I can’t answer.

    Is using steroids a violation of some morality provision? It was illegal, but I am not sure that is enough. DWIs and the like don’t cause contracts to be voided.

    I would speculate the Yankees considered whether to try to void the contract, decided it was no sure thing, considered the ramifications of losing and having a disgruntled player to whom you owed $200+ and decided to hope for the best.

    I am not sure I disagree with that, but I would have sure pressured them to eliminate the home run bonuses in return for not trying to void the contract. For all we really know, they did. I am not sure that would be public knowledge.

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    No way the Yanks could have gotten out of the contract even if they tried.. can’t forget those results were never supposed to see the light of day. I’m sure Arod could have lawyer’d up and sued all of MLB if he wanted to.

  67. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    @AdamKilgoreWP: A major league scout said recently he saw the Yankees and Rays as good fits for Morse. He was purely speculating based on roster makeup.

  68. randy l. January 8th, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    g. love-

    fans perception at the stadium is an interesting one. being there ,you see things you won’t see on tv. i almost never see the yankees so my impression is from tv only.

    the all or nothing offense is an offense is good for padding stats but not always for winning games. look how showalter was able to get a similar record to the yankees with almost no run differential.

    granderson was the pride and joy and proof that long is a good hitting coach. i think that notion needs to be revisited.

  69. charlestonchew January 8th, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    1- I would be shocked if Nix didn’t make the roster, especially given that we gave him a bit of a raise and he’s been a steady defender and held his own somewhat on offense.

    That doesn’t mean I think he should be there, though. It’s kind of frustrating to me that the Yankees continue to insist that Eduardo Nunez can’t cut it at third and second. The guy is a naturally skilled defender who makes the occasional mental error. Sure, it’s more errors than Jeter makes in a year, but doesn’t his range at least make up for a good deal of that? He’s clearly gifted offensively (at least as far as shortstops go) and I’d like to see him on the roster. Nix isn’t nearly the player that Nunez is and it’s time that the Yankees realize it and allow Nunez to win the backup role at SS, 2B, and 3B.

  70. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Morse fits for #Yankees, #Rays, #Mariners in addition to #Orioles. Seriously doubt #Nationals would trade him to #Phillies.

  71. randy l. January 8th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    long really does seem to create a hitting style that is low contact and high power.

    i’m ok with that for a few players but not everyone.

  72. AAA January 8th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Morse fits for #Yankees, #Rays, #Mariners in addition to #Orioles. Seriously doubt #Nationals would trade him to #Phillies.

    ================================

    Wouldn’t bet against Boston either as the Napoli thing seems stuck in limbo.

  73. Tackelberry January 8th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Logan and Phelps/Warren for Morse. Make it happen Cash!!

  74. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    “Wouldn’t bet against Boston either as the Napoli thing seems stuck in limbo”

    If that falls through then sure….

  75. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Phelps and Warren aren’t equal values at this point

  76. blake January 8th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    The stupid rays will probably get Morse

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