Yankees and Nationals to play exhibition in D.C.
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 08, 2013 
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Here’s the announcement from the Yankees. Should be a nice way for Mike Morse to thank his old fans, don’t you think?
The New York Yankees announced today that they will play an exhibition game on Friday, March 29 at 2:05 p.m. ET, against the Washington Nationals at Nationals Park in Washington, D.C.
Single-game tickets will go on sale through the Nationals at a date to be determined in the future.
A portion of the proceeds from the Yankees vs. Nationals game will benefit the Washington Nationals Dream Foundation, a 501 (c) 3 charitable organization committed to improving the lives of children throughout the Washington Capital Region. For more information on the Dream Foundation or to make a donation, visit nationals.com/dream.
Waaaay to stoke the fire Chad.
They could play 2 today, although sterling would whine all day about it being frigid.
“Here’s the announcement from the Yankees. Should be a nice way for Mike Morse to thank his old fans, don’t you think?”
Yes….of course since this is so obvious and public now it has virtually no chance to happen as it would break Cashman’s stealth rule
This is exactly the type of move the Yankees need to do in order to turn the corner here a bit during the off-season and start the trend upward. A nice 3 for 1 deal to get Morse and clear some room on the 40-man.
Cashman will probably forgo the Morse trade and go for the unexpected Gary Sanchez and Mason Williams for Matt Garza trade
@YankeeSource: Mariano Rivera’s new knee has built in shock absorbers. #Cyborg
Performance enhancing knee
We have to hope that Garza is too expensive for their current tastes.
AndrewMarchand Just Filed: Yanks have interest in trading for Morse. 3 seconds ago · reply · retweet · favorite
Please let this happen – - – -
Blake –
Or he’ll do a Zoilo Almonte and Dante Bichette trade for Vernon Wells because the Angels eat all the salary and don’t want a major leaguer in return.
@AndrewMarchand: Just Filed: Yanks have interest in trading for Morse.
Come on Cashmoney !!!! make it happen baby !!
Against All Odds January 8th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Rich in NJ January 8th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
@YankeeSource
He’s usually wrong.
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Like when he took the all the Yankee bats went into a slump at the wrong time route
The Return of Stoneburner January 8th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
AndrewMarchand Just Filed: Yanks have interest in trading for Morse. 3 seconds ago · reply · retweet · favorite
Please let this happen – – – -
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Indeed.
Boone Logan, Nik Turley, Frankie Cervelli, Joba and Melky Mesa for Morse, Chris Garcia and Kurt Suzuki
Chip,
No injured “#2 starters” are his targets if choice
“Like when he took the all the Yankee bats went into a slump at the wrong time route”
I actually think the guy is a Cashman shill.
Chip,
I agree Hairston and Morse are different types of players. Hairston looks to me to have had a career year in his 30s. It would surprise me if he hit like that again.
The good news is we now have an actual topic to discuss rather than talking about a list of the worst RH outfielders imaginable.
@ZuckermanCSN: Any GMs interested in Michael Morse, he’s now very much available. #Nats will be looking for starting pitching depth and/or LH reliever.
Yanks have both to offer if they will
Rich in NJ January 8th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
“Like when he took the all the Yankee bats went into a slump at the wrong time route”
I actually think the guy is a Cashman shill.
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Maybe he’s Ted Nelson it would make sense.
Chris Garcia’s fastball still moves about a foot on the way to the plate at 92-93. I wish we had been more patient or more helpful. He will be quite good if healthy.
austinmac January 8th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
Chip,
I agree Hairston and Morse are different types of players. Hairston looks to me to have had a career year in his 30s. It would surprise me if he hit like that again.
The good news is we now have an actual topic to discuss rather than talking about a list of the worst RH outfielders imaginable.
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Eh, we might still end up with Juan Rivera
“Maybe he’s Ted Nelson it would make sense.”
That’s a pretty serious charge, AAO!!!!!
austinmac January 8th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Chris Garcia’s fastball still moves about a foot on the way to the plate at 92-93. I wish we had been more patient or more helpful. He will be quite good if healthy.
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I can’t blame them for letting him go – he just couldn’t stay healthy at all. The problem was that they were so stubborn about putting him back into a starting role every time he came back from injury. Nats signed him, stuck him in the pen and just let him go.
Rich in NJ January 8th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
“Maybe he’s Ted Nelson it would make sense.”
That’s a pretty serious charge, AAO!!!!!
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That’s my story and I’m sticking to it
@jnorris427: If you remember my report from early last season, the #Nationals showed interest in both Eduardo Nunez and Nik Turley. #Yankees
Blake -
I would do Turley, Nunez and Logan for Morse.
Can you see Sterling tapping out HR call in Morse code
Then you sign the Cuban SS to replace Nunez.
“Chip says:
January 8, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Blake -
I would do Turley, Nunez and Logan for Morse.”
I kinda like Turley…and would hate to give Nunie….is try to keep Nunez out unless I had to
I agree Hairston and Morse are different types of players. Hairston looks to me to have had a career year in his 30s. It would surprise me if he hit like that again.
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Agree on Hairston, don’t want him. Get Morse.
blake January 8th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
“Chip says:
January 8, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Blake -
I would do Turley, Nunez and Logan for Morse.”
I kinda like Turley…and would hate to give Nunie….is try to keep Nunez out unless I had to
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There are a lot of people I kinda like – but you have to give to get.
I can replace Nunez with Diaz, the Cuban SS – that would be a net gain.
I do wonder if Cash will expand the deal to try and get a Catcher as Chip has suggsstsd
Please let this happen – I really like Turley – Bullet Bob and all – and being that last pick – but I really want Morse – please make it happen – Morse would be great for 2013 – - – -
@JonHeymanCBS: #yankees are 1 of teams talking to #nats about morse
Chip January 8th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
The Return of Stoneburner January 8th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
AndrewMarchand Just Filed: Yanks have interest in trading for Morse. 3 seconds ago · reply · retweet · favorite
Please let this happen – – – -
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Indeed.
Boone Logan, Nik Turley, Frankie Cervelli, Joba and Melky Mesa for Morse, Chris Garcia and Kurt Suzuki
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Chip – you have been on it with Suzuki since the beginning – I hope it happens – i just do not know what Cashman is thinking re: his bullpen – i worry that he is too “in love” with Logan – smh – - – -
Turley, Nunez, Cervelli, Logan for Suzuki and Morse
Sign Kelly Johnson
Sign Almedys Diaz (or whatever his name is) the Cuban SS
Trade Granderson to the Rangers for Murphy and a prospect
Roster:
Jeter
Ichiro
Tex
Cano
Morse
Youk
Murphy
Suzuki
Gardner
Bench: Stewart, Nix, Johnson, Canzler
@JonHeymanCBS: #yankees are 1 of teams talking to #nats about morse
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@JonHeymanCBS: #yankees are 1 of teams talking to #nats about morse
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I will buy him the ticket to get him to his press conference – this makes way too much sense – - – -
Either CC is really bored or cares way to much about being on the cover of the MLB13 box. He’s campaigning harder than Swisher did for the AS Game.
NO way I would include Nunez inna Morse deal, or a Morse\Suzuki deal.
Suzuki just makes a ton of sense – he’s essentially Russ Martin behind the plate and at it he’s not as bad as his numbers indicate. A lot of his offensive problems are probably the result of playing in Oakland (his offense picked up when he was traded to Washington)
The Nationals have a young stud catcher in Wilson Ramos as their starter; Kurt makes $6.45 this year (which is what the Yankees were willing to offer Russ Martin) and then has an option for next year at $8.5 with a $650k buyout. That’s a lot of money for a back up catcher but reasonable if he’s going to be a starter for the Yankees.
He and Morse would combine to be about $14m in salary this season – which is probably more than Cashman has left in his budget – so money would have to go the other way (Logan) and he might need to clear someone else in a trade (Granderson)
If you wanna do something for Morse\Suzuki, start with Cano and go from there.
One thing about Suzuki…..he has a club option for 8.5 million for 2014 that becomes guaranteed if he catches 113 games in 2013…..and if it vests it’s for 9.25 million……that wouldn’t do
DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
If you wanna do something for Morse\Suzuki, start with Cano and go from there.
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SMH c’mon now
DONNYBROOK January 8th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
If you wanna do something for Morse\Suzuki, start with Cano and go from there.
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Wait, you would NOT include Nunez in a trade but would do Cano for Morse and Suzuki?
“Wait, you would NOT include Nunez in a trade but would do Cano for Morse and Suzuki?”
Yea it’s Donny…..
blake January 8th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
One thing about Suzuki…..he has a club option for 8.5 million for 2014 that becomes guaranteed if he catches 113 games in 2013…..and if it vests it’s for 9.25 million……that wouldn’t do
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By the second half of the season you hope that Romine is ready to contribute. If not, you can work out a deal with Kurt, maybe a 2 year deal at 10 M vs. the one year at 9.25?
I said START with Cano. NOT straight up for those 2. Yanks could maybe get Espinosa\Morse\Suzuki for Cano and spare change.
“maybe a 2 year deal at 10 M vs. the one year at 9.25?”
AAV is what matters for tax purposes.
You don’t wanna get into a situation where you have to try and keep his starts under 113….especially if he’s their best catcher…..I think you’d have to just play Romine half the time to prevent that
The Yankees wouldn’t be able to negotiate around a vesting option. if it vests it vests. They have no leverage there.
Taking Suzukis 6.5 million might even help facilitate a deal….I dunno
YankeesWFAN The Yankees and Nationals have agreed…to play an exhibition game March 29 in Wash DC. Sorry, not the news you were looking for.
Tease – - – -
I think Donny is actually Donnie Wahlberg…
@JonHeymanCBS
#indians have a little flexibility to add 1 more hitter after busy winter that included swisher, reynolds, myers & bauer
I can’t see the Yankees taking on $13m in salary without some significant offset. That’s why you don’t overpay Ichiro or Youkilis.
Taking Suzukis 6.5 million might even help facilitate a deal….
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Kinda get the sense the Nats aren’t quite sold on Ramos being all the way back. Think if they felt good about that, Suzuki would be gone already.
Rich in NJ says:
January 8, 2013 at 2:59 pm
I can’t see the Yankees taking on $13m in salary without some significant offset. That’s why you don’t overpay Ichiro or Youkilis.
Yea….especially youk
“Kinda get the sense the Nats aren’t quite sold on Ramos being all the way back. Think if they felt good about that, Suzuki would be gone already.”
We will give them Stewie!
Jerkface January 8th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
The Yankees wouldn’t be able to negotiate around a vesting option. if it vests it vests. They have no leverage there.
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Is this in regards to Suzuki? We can’t just limit his starts?
It just makes too much sense – the Yanks have extra money – they were in on Berkman to some capacity and that would have taken dollars for a one year deal – - – -
If Cleveland gets Morse – they are just going to need to trade him near July 31 – - – -
If they do get Morse – I hope they do due diligence on the wrist – - – -
“Is this in regards to Suzuki? We can’t just limit his starts?”
They’d have to be sneaky about it….meaning I think you’d need to set up a system from the start of the season……they could just play him 5 games a week then stop in July or something like that is what I mean….the union would frown upon that
Cano gets what, $15 Mill? Morse\Suzuki\Espinosa (several yrs of control), = pretty good fit.
DONNYBROOK says:
January 8, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Cano gets what, $15 Mill? Morse\Suzuki\Espinosa (several yrs of control), = pretty good fit.
Terrible
“I do wonder if Cash will expand the deal to try and get a Catcher as Chip has suggsstsd”
blake-
i was surprised that cashman actually showed some concern about cervelli getting hurt in winter ball and bringing him back to tampa to be checked out.
i’m thinking cervelli is going to get the starting catching job by default,and that cashman knows it.
a lot happens on a team off the field. most of a players time with other players is off the field. i have a feeling that cervelli annoyed the wrong players or wrong coaches off the field.
there must have been a reason to be buried the way he was last year. it was pretty cold sending him down the way they did. i think they were sending cervelli a very serious message that they could make him or break him.
cashman is not stupid.why burn a player like cervelli and get nothing for him? i think the bad treatment cervelli got was because they want to use him, and he had to be knocked down a notch or two for him to fit in.
cervelli clearly pissed someone off.
blake January 8th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
“Is this in regards to Suzuki? We can’t just limit his starts?”
They’d have to be sneaky about it….meaning I think you’d need to set up a system from the start of the season……they could just play him 5 games a week then stop in July or something like that is what I mean….the union would frown upon that
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Gotcha. Still dunno that they’d even target him but I just wanted to make sure I was understanding the option correctly.
Those are only regular season starts, too, right?
“i’m thinking cervelli is going to get the starting catching job by default,and that cashman knows it.”
I think he is likely to get the chance to fail.
If things stand as they are I would bet Stewart is the starter
cervelli clearly pissed someone off.
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“That’s Cervelli.” – Cervelli
God, I need a gif of this…..
You guys complaing about Youk’s deal, but what about Berkman at $10 Mill 1yr?
DONNYBROOK says:
January 8, 2013 at 3:25 pm
You guys complaing about Youk’s deal, but what about Berkman at $10 Mill 1yr?
Both are bad….but at least Berkman was an MVP candidate in 2011
@JimBowdenESPNxm: There are 10-11 teams in on Michael Morse. Seattle, Tampa Bay and Yankees have been most active trying to get him. #confirmed
Who cares what a player did 2yrs ago? At least you know Youk will play. Berkman has ??? on his back instead of a number.
Both are bad….but at least Berkman was an MVP candidate in 2011
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Neither is as bad as Ichiro for 2 years.
Dang – Seattle and Tampa have that pitching to offer – - – -
10-11 teams in on 1yr of Morse. Can you imagine the action the Yanks would get for Cano?
Yanks cannot get a return that equally values Cano – - -
His produciton in 2013 AND the draft pick/draft pool he would bring with a QO – I am not sure there is a trade out there that can compensate the Yanks adequately – - – -
Berkman will likely hit much better than Youkilis next year as he is one year removed from a very good year. I’d have preferred him and gone young at third.
@JimBowdenESPNxm: Nats won’t just trade Morse.Has to be good deal for both teams.Morse for just a LH reliever WON’T get him;they need fair deal..need pitching
Berkman’s knees can Not even guarantee he will be in the lineup consistently. And him in the OF? HAHAHAHAHA
Given the damage we’ve seen a single enormous contract can do to a team’s flexibility, I am prepared to say goodbye to Cano at the end of the season. I think his decline will be at least as precipitious as A-Rod’s. You would be overpaying massively for two or three more seasons of terrific play.
I don’t think he’ll be traded now but I would certainly see what offers float in. I would be satisfied with the draft pick and flexibility his QO brings.
“Neither is as bad as Ichiro for 2 years.”
They are getting 2 years of Ichiro for roughly what one of Youk is costing…,obviously it depends on how Ichiro plays
Tampa and Seattle can offer more in the form of pitching – - – -
I will be surprised if we beat the pitching Seattle and Tampa Bay can offer. Too many disappointments to expect this to happen. I am in the it would be a very pleasant surprise mode.
The Return of Stoneburner says:
January 8, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Dang – Seattle and Tampa have that pitching to offer – – – -
I doubt either of them would give anybody better than Phelps or Nova.. …not like the Nats are getting Hultzen for a year of morse
DONNYBROOK says:
January 8, 2013 at 3:31 pm
10-11 teams in on 1yr of Morse. Can you imagine the action the Yanks would get for Cano?
They’d get a lot of action…..the problem would be finding a trade that makes the Yanks better
The Return of Stoneburner says:
January 8, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Dang – Seattle and Tampa have that pitching to offer – – – -
I doubt either of them would give anybody better than Phelps or Nova.. …not like the Nats are getting Hultzen for a year of morse
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Paxton could be enticing – - – -
Michael Morse would be a nice add…get to work Cash….If I had a pick of the two Stewart..just think he’s the better D catcher
Can’t the Mariners just go back to focusing on Andre Ethier – - and I wish Tampa would start Myers in the majors – that would open it up – - – -
“Paxton could be enticing – – – -”
Highly doubt they’d do that either…..
The mariners don’t make as much sense to me as the Rays….they just added Morales for a DH/1B role and they are a contender yet……he makes sense for the rays though
Possibly – but they could then just turn around and offer Maurer – they have pitching – - – -
Aside – the At Bat app is clutch on days like today. Streaming games from last season is great.
They are getting 2 years of Ichiro for roughly what one of Youk is costing…,obviously it depends on how Ichiro plays
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Ichiro eats into the $189M is what makes it bad. Aside from 3 weeks in September, he’s sucked for 2 straight years. Maybe they felt they had no choice. Tell you this though. On Labor Day weekend when Ichiro’s 1st 40 games with the NYY yielded a sub .700 OPS, nobody here was saying “I hope they re-sign him” never mind re-sign him to a 2 year deal.
If you can make a deal for Cano that at least equals his production, plugs some obvious holes for 2013, and gives you control of a player like Espinosa for several seasons, you do it. The QO stuff is nebulous, as you really do Not know how that prospective player will pan-out
The mariners don’t make as much sense to me as the Rays….they just added Morales for a DH/1B role and they are a contender yet……he makes sense for the rays though
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Definitely makes more sense for the Rays, but the M’s need bats and they’re having a tough time getting them on the FA market. Plenty of PA’s to offer Morse and Morales in Seattle.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....lb,wp17935
shame-
“that’s cervelli”
QO is not just about the draft pick – it is about increasing the draft pool money size – especially with 2014 – which is being considered a better draft – - – -
“Definitely makes more sense for the Rays, but the M’s need bats and they’re having a tough time getting them on the FA market. Plenty of PA’s to offer Morse and Morales in Seattle.”
They sorta have enough DH bats that can’t play defense though
http://i54.tinypic.com/md1577.gif
cervelli with the clap at home plate
“Ichiro eats into the $189M is what makes it bad. Aside from 3 weeks in September, he’s sucked for 2 straight years”
Yea the 2nd year sucks…..I think they did it for marketing though and at least the money isn’t that much…..neither of the deals are great…..the Yabks are really banking on his 2nd half being more real than a last hurrah
Yea, and while you increasing that draft pool\$$$, pick me up a couple scratch-offs.
“If you can make a deal for Cano that at least equals his production”
No you cant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F84xIzj3ACc
shame-
kind of funny
Nunez, Turley, and Logan is too much for Morse. Guy is a solid hitter but that’s an overpay. I mean is Morse really going to put Yanks over the top in 2013? Win them a playoff series? And what do you do with him after next yr? He’s a nice player, and I’d like the Yanks to acquire him, but I wouldn’t go more than Logan+ a decent prospect. You start talking about bigger packages for Morse, youre better off trading for Upton.
“I mean is Morse really going to put Yanks over the top in 2013? ”
He could make a pretty big impact yea….especially with all the quality LHP in the division
“You start talking about bigger packages for Morse, youre better off trading for Upton.”
Turley, Nunez, and Logan isn’t really anywhere close to what you’d have to give for Upton…..I wouldn’t want to give Nunez just because of the circumstances and Id much rather have Upton….but I dunno if that’s possible and Morse probably is
I’d be cool with Mike Morse, he’s pretty good. I would not give up a top prospect for him though.
@DCameronFG: Looking at 31-year-old high BABIP hitters. They do okay. RT @fangraphs: FanGraphs: Some Comps for Mike Morse http://t.co/Sdu6R1LG
blake what do you think is a fair deal for Morse? I feel like we could get him for a package of players not including Austin, Heathcott, Williams, etc but it seems like the market to get him is really competitive.
If the market for Morse heats up too much, then you look elsewhere. He’s not a must-have.
Patrick,
It just all depends on what they want….Im assuming they’d want Logan cause they are looking for lefty reliever and then it could cost anywhere from a guy like Flores to maybe even Nova or Phelps….it just depends on what other teams offer.
I wouldn’t give any of the top guys for him but I hope they don’t have to
@NYDNHarper: Nationals looking for lefty reliever in trade for Morse. Boone Logan would make sense but that would leave a hole in yankee bullpen.
If Cashman refuses to trade Logan I think we should mutany
Nunez may make sense to include, but if Jeter’s recovery isn’t optimal, they would miss him, shoddy defense and all.
Harper isn’t a bright guy.
I would join the mutiny. Now, Cashman is intimidated.
Rich in NJ says:
January 8, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Harper isn’t a bright guy.
Apparently not
I can see Cashman thinking the offense is fine and not wanting to lose a lefty reliever…..
ESPN issued an apology today, saying Musburger’s comments “went too far.”
“We always try to capture interesting story lines and the relationship between an Auburn grad who is Miss Alabama and the current Alabama quarterback certainly met that test,” ESPN said in a statement. “However, we apologize that the commentary in this instance went too far and Brent understands that.”
The fangraphs article was informative. Logan has considerably less value than Vargas as a middle reliever. So, something else would have to be added. I think they need Nunez until we see how Jeter is. It would have to be, I would guess, a pretty decent young pitching prospect. Marshall maybe?
Someone suggested Joba earlier. That is also an interesting thought.
If the market for Morse heats up too much, then you look elsewhere. He’s not a must-have.
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Well obviously which is why I want to set a baseline of who I’d be willing to give up. As I said in my first post, I am not willing to give up any top prospects for Morse. He’s good but not that good
ESPN issued an apology today, saying Musburger’s comments “went too far.”
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Wow seriously? It’s so rare that an announcer says something funny or interesting, now that one has ESPN apologizes for it? Give me a freaking break
@austinmac Really want to lose two “proven” pieces of the bullpen in one fell swoop? I’m ok with one or the other but not sure about both. Of course depends who else would come back.
Id still try to get Upton even if they trade for Morse
“Someone suggested Joba earlier. That is also an interesting thought.”
I know it may be irrational, but I wouldn’t do it.
I know it may be irrational, but I wouldn’t do it.
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You know .. Joba still has good upside. He’s a free agent after this year though isn’t he? I STILL think he could (and should) start
Patrick
I think he is going to start for some team before he retires.
I can’t see him getting that chance in New York. Cashman knows any injury he might pick up as a starter would go squarely back to the Joba Rules saga as far as the media is concerned.
Blake, I looked at Morse’s stats a little more and I may have been underrating him a bit. Not only does he handle lefties but he’s more than held his own against righties also. I’m now even more for trading for him, I just wish he wasn’t a free agent after 13. However I think his track record is good enough that he may be worth offering the QO to and could net the Yanks a draft pick.
Right….he hits righties and lefties well enough to DH every day and he could probably fake RF well enough to spare Ichiro out there at YS….plus he could back up 1B
If Morse hits like he did in 2011 next year then he’s certainly a guy that could net you a draft pick…..
@JonHeymanCBS: according to @jimcallisBA, here are best minors systems: 1 stl 2 sea 3 mia 4 tex 5 bos 6 tb 7 minn 8 pitt 9 az 10 hou
Of course Boston…,lol
Does Logan/Nova get you Morse/Suzuki? Then Cash signs a Freddy Garcia/Derek Lowe type to compete for the 5th spot. If the BUC becomes CC’s or Pettitte’s “personal catcher” and starts day games after night games, I think you easily hold the starts below the vesting option.
“Does Logan/Nova get you Morse/Suzuki”
If they did that then signed marcum that’d be great….course I doubt Hal would approve that much payroll addition
and more draft pool money – - – -
@FakePeteGammons: Now that Baseball America stated #RedSox have a top 5 minor league system I can really start frothing at the mouth. This is Peter Gammons.
Personally, I’d hate to lose Nova when all you have to do is pay Scott Hairston what he wants and not give any assets up, but we’re not the Yankees anymore so that’s silly of me to say.
Hairston and morse really aren’t the same guy…..Morse is a better and rounded hitter and he can hit righties….he could be the primary DH instead of a platoon guy…..that said….if they did have to give Nova to get him I get that point
Mike,
I don’t know that I would give up two bullpen pieces unless I was confident Montgomery could fill Joba’s role. Joba is a free agent after 2013 so it is only one year of him like Morse.
if the Yankees wouldn’t trade Nunez for Cliff Lee then why would they trade him for Morse?
I just don’t give up Nova or Phelps easily. I don’t think Phil Hughes will re-sign here at all next season. It’s his decision finally and the way the Yankees are operating financially they won’t be the top bidder. Why would Hughes stay here? He grew up a Red Sox fan and he loves the West Coast. Unless we pay him more than anyone else, I don’t think there’s a shot he resigns with the Yankees.
“Unless we pay him more than anyone else, I don’t think there’s a shot he resigns with the Yankees.”
I agree ….if they don’t sign him now he’s probably gone….I’m just not sure what Nova will be going forward…..sure he could improve his command and delivery and be a real asset going forward….but he also could be just what we saw last year and those guys are easy to find…it just depends on what you think he is
G.Love,
You may not say “only money”. You must say “assets” so as to imply something of value to the fans.
I think it’s imperative that the team try to trade Hughes. I just think he’s a lost “asset”. There’s no way that guy is signing here to team friendly terms.
Hughes & Granderson need to be dealt to help build this club for 2013 and going forward. Neither will be resigned.
Reading the posts, I am again reminded of how deep a hole the Yankees have dug themselves because they really don’t have an enduring plan, other than profit maximization.
@ESPNNYYankees: A-Rods’ hips surgery will be january 16
Rich in NJ says:
January 8, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Reading the posts, I am again reminded of how deep a hole the Yankees have dug themselves because they really don’t have an enduring plan, other than profit maximization.
Hey Tex and Arod could turn it around and all the prospects pan out…..and Pineda’s shoulder stay attached….you never know
Rich,
A lot of us are at a point now that we know this team isn’t going to be the top dog financially for players. I think they will do it for Cano and give he & Boras what they want, but then they’ll pin all their excuses to the Cano deal why they can’t sign anyone else. Cano will be a PR move as much as a baseball move I think so then people can’t call them on the carpet for being cheap.
They’re all about getting below the luxury tax now and that doesn’t coincide with offering Hughes or Granderson the best competitive deal to resign here.
G. Love
And the Cano contract will only exacerbate the problem.
Rich,
I know. But at the same token as a fan, I can’t blame him if he produces at normal levels and gets that deal. He’ll have earned it from whoever gives it to him. If he declines rapidly like Tex, then he shouldn’t take the money to stay here because it will get ugly.
But yes, it will make fielding a team under the 189 mandate more challenging than ever since they can’t go out and get players and can only dumpster dive or rush/promote youngsters.
G. Love
I don’t blame Cano at all. I blame the suits.
Morse would certainly fit well in this years Yankee lineup but if it took Nova to get him I would say thanks but no thanks… The Yankees are not in a position financially to trade away their young cost controlled starters and stay under $189M… Selling low on Nova for 1 year of Morse sounds like an awful deal to me, especially considering Morse’s long injury history… BTW, if it wasn’t extremely apparent I am still a believer Nova will end up as a solid middle of the rotation guy. I still like his stuff and make up.
If the price is not as steep and say the Yankees could get Morse for a package of Logan/Melky Mesa type/lower level pitching prospect I would make the move for sure. Morse’s opposite field power would be an excellent fit in NYS. Much like Montero, Morse has a right handed swing built for NYS.
@Ken_Rosenthal: Complications in trade talks? Sources say #Nationals’ Morse strongly opposed to being a DH. Story: http://t.co/tQMsrIsw
Get Upton instead if he won’t DH
@BryanHoch: Dr. Bryan Kelly’s best guess is that Alex Rodriguez will return after the All-Star break, but he can’t be certain how long recovery will be.
Recovery will be 6 months – eternity