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Baseball announces random blood testing for HGH

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 10, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Interesting timing in the wake of yesterday’s Hall of Fame results. Here’s the announcement from the league and the players association…

Major League Baseball and the Major League Baseball Players Association announced today that they have modified their Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program to provide for unannounced, random blood testing for the detection of human growth hormone (hGH) during the regular season, beginning in 2013.

Today’s announcement marks another significant step in the progression of Baseball’s hGH testing policy, which continues to be the strongest in American professional sports. Since July 2010, Major League Baseball has conducted random blood testing for the detection of hGH among Minor League players. As a part of the 2012-2016 Basic Agreement, the parties agreed to blood testing for hGH during 2012 Spring Training, during the off-season, and for reasonable cause, making Baseball the first sport to deploy this kind of testing at its highest level. Under the new agreement, all of those aspects of the Program will continue, and there will be in-season, unannounced, random blood testing.

In addition, beginning in the 2013 season, the parties have authorized the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)-accredited Montreal Laboratory to establish a longitudinal profile program, in which a Player’s baseline Testosterone/Epitestosterone (T/E) ratio and other data will be maintained by the laboratory, with strict protections for confidentiality, in order to enhance its ability to detect the use of Testosterone and other prohibited substances. The laboratory will automatically conduct Carbon Isotope Ratio Mass Spectrometry (IRMS) analysis on all specimens that vary materially from a Player’s baseline values. The laboratory also will increase the number of random IRMS analysis it conducts on specimens. The longitudinal program being implemented by the parties will be one of the most significant programs of its kind in the world.

Baseball Commissioner Allan H. (Bud) Selig said: “This agreement addresses critical drug issues and symbolizes Major League Baseball’s continued vigilance against synthetic human growth hormone, Testosterone and other performance-enhancing substances. I am proud that our system allows us to adapt to the many evolving issues associated with the science and technology of drug testing. We will continue to do everything we can to maintain a leadership stature in anti-doping efforts in the years ahead.”

MLBPA Executive Director Michael Weiner said: “The Players are determined to do all they can to continually improve the sport’s Joint Drug Agreement. Players want a program that is tough, scientifically accurate, backed by the latest proven scientific methods, and fair; I believe these changes firmly support the Players’ desires while protecting their legal rights.”

Christiane Ayotte, the Director of the Montreal Laboratory, added: “Although the Montreal Laboratory has made extensive use of IRMS in the past, the addition of random blood testing and a longitudinal profiling program makes Baseball’s program second to none in detecting and deterring the use of synthetic hGH and Testosterone. A drug testing program that follows over a thousand steroid profiles and tests over a thousand blood specimens each year compares favorably with any WADA program.”

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166 Responses to “Baseball announces random blood testing for HGH”

  1. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    you gotta be careful, if the yankee fans buy arod out that hank doesnt step in and re-sign him to a $400M contract that lasts till he’s 50.

  2. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Any data available on how reliable this test is?

  3. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    fyi that would be an aav of 30.77M….. :)

  4. blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    I think it’s only fair that the wealthy Yankee fans pay more to get Arod to retire than everyone else

  5. blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Oh good more PED stuff from MLB…..somebody make a trade or something please

  6. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    ” blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    I think it’s only fair that the wealthy Yankee fans pay more to get Arod to retire than everyone else
    ————————————————————————–
    …freakin’ liberals…..
    :eye roll:

  7. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    “I think it’s only fair that the wealthy Yankee fans pay more to get Arod to retire than everyone else”

    Is A-Rod is a Yankee fan? If so, as a very wealthy one, he should pay his fair share.

  8. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    still don’t know how to do those emoticons…..

  9. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Middle Earth, James Bond, and Super Heroes were ignored by The Academy. Of course, “Texas Chainsaw 3D” was the Top grosser last week. Class warfare in America continues.

  10. blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    You should have to give 1,000 bucks to the Arod retirement fund to get to sit in the Legends seats

  11. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    I hear Braun gave his sample and a license plate was produced. Of couse, he is appealing.

  12. Shame Spencer January 10th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Ys – It’s : roll : but without the spaces between the colons.

    blake – Billy Crystal loves the Yanks…… so does Lebron!!

  13. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    :roll: thanks shame!

  14. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    “blake – Billy Crystal loves the Yanks…… so does Lebron!!”

    I know….we should have no problem raising the money!

  15. Hassey January 10th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    There goes GlenAllen Hill’s comeback and his hopes for one last contract before he clumsily rides off into the sunset

  16. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    @KenDavidoff: #Yankees boss Hal Steinbrenner, today at #MLB owners meetings: “We’ve got some work to do, still. We need another bat. We’re not done yet.”

  17. pat January 10th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    KenDavidoff

    #Yankees boss Hal Steinbrenner, today at #MLB owners meetings: “We’ve got some work to do, still. We need another bat. We’re not done yet.”

  18. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    @AdamKilgoreWP: Possible Morse landing spot. MT @KenDavidoff Yankees boss Hal Steinbrenner, at owners meetings: “We need another bat. We’re not done yet.”

  19. Warning Track Power January 10th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Last night ESPN aired a terrific 1 hour baseball tonight special about the HOF.
    Pedro Gomez is a fool and Buster Olney was owning Pedro during the discussion last night.

  20. AAA January 10th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    #Yankees boss Hal Steinbrenner, today at #MLB owners meetings: “We’ve got some work to do, still. We need another bat. We’re not done yet.”

    =======================================

    Good thing. If this fantasy Arod buyout talk continues, I’m going to ask that somebody please blow my head off.

  21. AAA January 10th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    KenDavidoff

    Steinbrenner, re: fans angry about team’s direction: “I’m surprised to hear that there’s anger, if you see what we’ve done this offseason

  22. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    @KenDavidoff: Steinbrenner, re: fans angry about team’s direction: “I’m surprised to hear that there’s anger, if you see what we’ve done this offseason.”

    Come on now Hal….

  23. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Who cares what Hal has to say. I wanna hear from Hank.

  24. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    “Good thing. If this fantasy Arod buyout talk continues, I’m going to ask that somebody please blow my head off.”

    Just jokin around man…. Don’t do anything hasty

  25. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    @KenDavidoff: Hal: “Is our goal 189 next year? Yes. But only if I’m convinced if the team I see, that we’ve put together, is a championship-caliber team.”

    Well that’s good to hear him finally say….

  26. ac1 January 10th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    Hal: “Is our goal 189 next year? Yes. But only if I’m convinced if the team I see, that we’ve put together, is a championship-caliber team.”
    ___

    This is good news…..
    Admitting it may not be possible to stay under 189M and not willing to field a crappy team just to do it.

  27. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Hal’s response is right there with, “Let them eat cake”. Absolute disconnect.

  28. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Oh good, Hal will let us get Rivera as another bat!

    I do wish someone would ask Hal about the 12-15 missing roster pieces for 2014 and how they plan to fill them with limited money. Of course, getting an answer is more difficult.

  29. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    given current threats of gun violence , wayne lapierre is recommending armed guards in all baseball blogs…

  30. Shame Spencer January 10th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    @KenDavidoff: Steinbrenner, re: fans angry about team’s direction: “I’m surprised to hear that there’s anger, if you see what we’ve done this offseason.”

    Come on now Hal….

    ———————-

    Yeah…I’m confused.

    You resigned 2 older pitchers (who are awesome, but still older and one is likely to pitch no more than 100 innings), incredibly overpaid Youk (other teams would barely go to $12 over 2 years), lost your Mo insurance (Sori), lost your 3rd best bat of last season (Swish), and don’t have a catcher.

    Job well done…?

  31. mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    Another reactionary move by Selig re:HGH.
    Sort of like giving HFA to the ASG winner.

  32. Shame Spencer January 10th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    @KenDavidoff: Hal: “Is our goal 189 next year? Yes. But only if I’m convinced if the team I see, that we’ve put together, is a championship-caliber team.”

    Well that’s good to hear him finally say….

    ——————

    Only if you believe him ;)

    I think if he thinks they’re a playoff team they’ll stick with whatever they’ve got. If the Jays and O’s fall apart, there might not even be a threat in the division in 2014. (I pretend the Rays don’t exist whenever possible.)

  33. grouchonyy January 10th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    @KenDavidoff: Hal: “Is our goal 189 next year? Yes. But only if I’m convinced if the team I see, that we’ve put together, is a championship-caliber team.”

    Otherwise he’s going to spend less?

  34. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Hal doesn’t have a lot of credibility at this point.

  35. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    Warning Track Power January 10th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
    Last night ESPN aired a terrific 1 hour baseball tonight special about the HOF.
    Pedro Gomez is a fool and Buster Olney was owning Pedro during the discussion last night.

    ———————–

    What did Pedro say?

  36. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    Yes actions speak louder than words so we will see….. Wonder if Hal realizes we have no catcher or DH

  37. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    grouchonyy January 10th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
    @KenDavidoff: Hal: “Is our goal 189 next year? Yes. But only if I’m convinced if the team I see, that we’ve put together, is a championship-caliber team.”

    Otherwise he’s going to spend less?

    ========================

    lol :)

  38. ac1 January 10th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Hal: Getting under $189 mil isn’t just a 1-year goal: “I believe that you don’t have to have a $220-million payroll to win a championship.”

    ____

    This would be true, if 5 players weren’t monololizing 100M of that, one making 27.5 AAV and being unable to even play (when he did play playing like a 2M player not a 27M player).

  39. pkyankfan69 January 10th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    @KenDavidoff: Steinbrenner, re: fans angry about team’s direction: “I’m surprised to hear that there’s anger, if you see what we’ve done this offseason.”
    ————————————————————
    I can understand why Hal would think they did a good job this offseason for THE 2013 season… We’re set up just fine to most likely be a very competitive team this year, especially if they add another legit bat. But most reasonably informed Yankee fans are well aware of the impending nosedive that seems destined to occur in 2014. How dumb does he think most Yankee fans are?

  40. Warning Track Power January 10th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
    Warning Track Power January 10th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
    Last night ESPN aired a terrific 1 hour baseball tonight special about the HOF.
    Pedro Gomez is a fool and Buster Olney was owning Pedro during the discussion last night.

    ———————–

    What did Pedro say?
    ——————————————————————————————————————-
    Basically Pedro said that since the “steroid era” included the players who were eligible for the HOF yesterday, that it made the most sense to not vote any of the eligible players because he is convinced they all used PED’s. I know-Ridiculous!!!

  41. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    I wonder if Hal realizes that he could hire a better GM.

  42. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    The Seinfeld episode about the boy in the bubble? That boy had to be Hal.

  43. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    “How dumb does he think most Yankee fans are?”

    Or maybe he is too dumb to know better. I’m not sure.

  44. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    @KenDavidoff: Hal: Getting under $189 mil isn’t just a 1-year goal: “I believe that you don’t have to have a $220-million payroll to win a championship.”

  45. ac1 January 10th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    im so sick of the argument that you dont have to pay 220M to win a title. They arent starting from scratch, or yes maybe they dont give out all of these ridiculous contracts. When you have an injured 3b making 27.5/year, a pitcher making 24/year, first baseman making 23/year, SS making 17M/year and on and on, yes you may need to spend 220 to field a team.

  46. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    “I believe that you don’t have to have a $220-million payroll to win a championship.”

    He’s right in theory, but when you have perhaps $100m in sunk costs, much of it to players that are past their peak years, and a GM who has never produced the mL pipeline he promised, you probably do.

  47. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    “im so sick of the argument that you dont have to pay 220M to win a title”

    Yea it’s very misleading because so much of their payroll is sunk cost or wasted money

  48. mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    This is from the CBA which began last year:

    Beginning next spring, all players will be subject to HGH blood testing “for reasonable cause” at any time during the year. All players will be tested during Spring Training and will be subject to random, unannounced testing beginning next offseason.

    Maybe they knew nobody was getting in…

    …what was reactionary was the timing, as Chad said.

  49. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    AAA January 10th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
    KenDavidoff

    Steinbrenner, re: fans angry about team’s direction: “I’m surprised to hear that there’s anger, if you see what we’ve done this offseason

    —————————–

    You mean besides losing 90 hrs and bringing the same guys back

  50. Shame Spencer January 10th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    My mom always told me some variation of this when it came to boys and dating: It’s not hard to find someone who tells you they love you, it’s hard to find someone who actually means it.

    This is how I feel about Hal ;)

    Speaking of the name Pedro… will Pedro Martinez be inducted? IIRC, there were some rumors he used PEDs as well.

  51. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    @bkabak: Hal: Making me and my brother and sisters bloody rich isn’t just a 1-year goal.

  52. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Kinda throws a wrench in that whole….get under for 2014 then spend like crazy again huh

  53. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Point is, you got the $$$, so spend it to build the Best team you can. Your investment will pay off. His own Dad proved this to a T.

  54. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Hal: Getting under $189 mil isn’t just a 1-year goal

    ————————-

    For all the ppl that believe it’s just a one yr thing

  55. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    “@bkabak: Hal: Making me and my brother and sisters bloody rich isn’t just a 1-year goal.”

    His dad did that. Hal is actually putting a ceiling on profit maximization, albeit a very high one.

  56. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    @KenDavidoff: Hal Steinbrenner: “There’s been no real, significant dialogue” with Robinson Cano about an extension. #Yankees

    Course not

  57. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    It’s not a one year thing and never was…..he’s wanted to lower payroll for years

  58. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    I would prefer dialogue about trade talks, not about an extension.

  59. mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    that it made the most sense to not vote any of the eligible players because he is convinced they all used PED’s.
    =====================================
    Biggio didn’t get in b/c he was not 1st ballot worthy.
    Piazza b/c they think he juiced.
    Has Piazza denied that he ever did?
    Afraid of being exposed if the list ever comes out?
    Or why should he deny something that he never did unlike his admission of not being gay?

  60. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    Rich in NJ says:
    January 10, 2013 at 3:43 pm
    I would prefer dialogue about trade talks, not about an extension.

    They should be discussing both not neither

  61. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    “Has Piazza denied that he ever did?”

    Yes

  62. Warning Track Power January 10th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
    that it made the most sense to not vote any of the eligible players because he is convinced they all used PED’s.
    =====================================
    Biggio didn’t get in b/c he was not 1st ballot worthy.
    Piazza b/c they think he juiced.
    Has Piazza denied that he ever did?
    Afraid of being exposed if the list ever comes out?
    Or why should he deny something that he never did unlike his admission of not being gay?
    ———————————————————————————————————————–
    I disagree.
    Based on the stats, Piazza is one of the 3 top catchers of all time and his offense is probably the best of all time at the Catcher position. To me that means he is a 1st ballot HOF.
    Since there is no proof that he used, Piazza is being penalized due to rumors and guilt by association. That is a crime and very unfair.

  63. mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Why is Piazza connected to PED’s?

  64. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    “They should be discussing both not neither”

    Any extension should begin and end with: We are open to a very significant AAV, but if we include 2013, we are not going past 7 years, no matter what. So let your client know that if he wants to become a lifelong Yankee, we need to know by March 1 if a contract is possible. Otherwise, he will be traded.

  65. mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Based on the stats, Piazza is one of the 3 top catchers of all time and his offense is probably the best of all time at the Catcher position. To me that means he is a 1st ballot HOF
    ======================================
    Where did I say that?

  66. pkyankfan69 January 10th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
    Why is Piazza connected to PED’s?
    ———————————————
    Because he is a catcher who hit 400+ HR during the steriod era.

    Not saying that I agree with it but that is why.

  67. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    The 1st Ballot stuff is baloney. Either a guy is Hall worthy or he ain’t.

  68. Warning Track Power January 10th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    If I were Piazza, I would locate every single writer that failed to write down at least 1 name on the ballot and hit them upside the head with a wooden bat.
    The writers who failed to cast at least 1 vote, left the ballot blank should all be stripped of their
    duty going forward.
    There is proof that Bonds took PED’s. There is proof that other players took PED’s, but there is none on Piazza, yet the writers still kept him off the ballot.
    Why??

  69. mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    Hal is saying you don’t need a 220m payroll to win b/c he watched his Dad suffer through 20 years of losing. God knows what his family saw when they were in their losing years at the highest payroll in the game. As a child it must have been traumatic.

  70. mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    Because he is a catcher who hit 400+ HR during the steriod era.
    =============================
    Does Posada qualify?

  71. Warning Track Power January 10th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    1 more thing. Every single writer that votes or chooses not to vote should
    have their own ballot be made public.
    Enough of hiding behind an anonymous ballot and keeping the votes a secret.
    The results should be made public so that the writers themselves can be up for
    scrutiny.

  72. mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Why not give the public a vote like they do for the ASG?

  73. AAA January 10th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Why not give the public a vote like they do for the ASG?

    ===================================

    In what way has the public demonstrated to you they’d f*ck it up any less than the BBWAA does?

  74. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    mick says:
    January 10, 2013 at 3:47 pm
    Why is Piazza connected to PED’s?

    Cause he was good I guess

  75. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    On the one hand Hal suggests $189M is a goal and not an absolute while on the other hand he says $189M is not just for 2014. Confusing to me, but at least he suggests he won’t put a terrible team on the field just to keep under the number.

    I also get tired of the argument you can have agreat team for $189M. Of course you can unless more than half of that is tied up in a handful of players some of whom are unproductive.

    Shoot for $189M after we have cheap alternatives hopefully available. That won’t likely be 2014.

    Remember, Hal, the luxury tax is just the cost of doing business.

  76. pkyankfan69 January 10th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
    Because he is a catcher who hit 400+ HR during the steriod era.
    =============================
    Does Posada qualify?
    ———————————–
    Posada hit less than 300 and he wasn’t on the HOF ballot yesterday.

    Were people in the mainstream talking about Piazza and steroids at all before yesterday?

  77. blake January 10th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Rich in NJ says:
    January 10, 2013 at 3:48 pm
    “They should be discussing both not neither”

    Any extension should begin and end with: We are open to a very significant AAV, but if we include 2013, we are not going past 7 years, no matter what. So let your client know that if he wants to become a lifelong Yankee, we need to know by March 1 if a contract is possible. Otherwise, he will be traded.

    I don’t think they’d ever trade him though….that approach would be fine with me….but they’d have to really be willing to deal him if he wouldn’t sign a reasonable extension and I don’t think they are

  78. disco stu January 10th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    “The 1st Ballot stuff is baloney. Either a guy is Hall worthy or he ain’t.”

    I agree … especially no brainers … Joe DiMaggio was not a 1st ballot hall of famer … or Whitey Ford … or Yogi Berra.

    Kind of makes you wonder, will Jeter and Mo get in on the first ballot or have to wait themselves?

  79. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    We used to use an expression that something was “Unamerican”. It seems awfully Unamerican to punish people for activities for which there is no proof.

    I never particularly liked Piazza. But, he got completely screwed from my objective eyes.

  80. pkyankfan69 January 10th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    BTW, I think Piazza not getting in yesterday was complete BS… Absolutely no proof at all of him taking PED’s.

  81. mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Major League Baseball and the Major League Baseball Players Association announced today that they have modified their Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program to provide for unannounced, random blood testing for the detection of human growth hormone (hGH) during the regular season, beginning in 2013.

    As a part of the 2012-2016 Basic Agreement, the parties agreed to blood testing for hGH during 2012 Spring Training, during the off-season, and for reasonable cause, making Baseball the first sport to deploy this kind of testing at its highest level. Under the new agreement, all of those aspects of the Program will continue, and there will be in-season, unannounced, random blood testing.
    =============================
    How is this a modification when it was announced a year ago as part of the CBA.
    No one seems to have known this and thought HGH could not be tested due to legalities.

  82. mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Posada hit less than 300 and he wasn’t on the HOF ballot yesterday.

    Were people in the mainstream talking about Piazza and steroids at all before yesterday?
    ==================
    Point being Posada was a catcher who hit more HR’s than most other catchers.
    When his name comes up will he be accused?
    Piazza , most definitely , is thought to have been a user by those who voted.

  83. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    “I don’t think they’d ever trade him though….that approach would be fine with me….but they’d have to really be willing to deal him if he wouldn’t sign a reasonable extension and I don’t think they are”

    I agree. There are a lot of things about the way that they do business that puts an upper limit on how many WS they are likely to win. They care more about appearances than actually being the best team they can be over a longer time horizon.

  84. mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Piazza , most definitely , is thought to have been a user by those who voted.
    ================================================
    As was Bagwell.

  85. pat January 10th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    Interview with Hal in more than 140 character bites.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/metropoli.....pty-seats/

  86. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    mick January 10th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
    Why is Piazza connected to PED’s?

    ——————————–

    He had an injury that many feel is a steroid injury
    He hit HRs
    He was a big guy
    One time when he took his shirt off Murray Chass was walking through the locker room and noticed Mike’s back acne

  87. pkyankfan69 January 10th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
    Posada hit less than 300 and he wasn’t on the HOF ballot yesterday.

    Were people in the mainstream talking about Piazza and steroids at all before yesterday?
    ==================
    Point being Posada was a catcher who hit more HR’s than most other catchers.
    When his name comes up will he be accused?
    Piazza , most definitely , is thought to have been a user by those who voted.
    ———————————————————————-
    Piazza #’s as a catcher make him a sure fire HOFer.

    Posada’s #’s as a catcher very likely fall short of the HOF.

    Piazza as the more high profiled superstar type power hitting slugger as he was will naturally garner more steroid accusations. I’m not saying it’s right but it’s true, a simple fact of the current baseball landscape and that is unfortunately for true greatness to be questioned. Posada’s offensive #’s are not quite as impressive as Piazza. He’s a borderline HOF candidate at best. He’s not HOF eligible for a few years, and thus no one is talking about Posada and PED use.

  88. mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    What % of the writers turned in blank ballots?

  89. Jerkface January 10th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    On the one hand Hal suggests $189M is a goal and not an absolute while on the other hand he says $189M is not just for 2014. Confusing to me, but at least he suggests he won’t put a terrible team on the field just to keep under the number.

    I’m more inclined to believe his latter statement than the former.

  90. mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Is there a list of the voters and who they voted for?

  91. Benny Blanco January 10th, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    What would happen if cano becomes a free agent and the yankees got out bid by the angels and he wound up in anaheim? Could you imagine that lineup?

  92. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Kind of makes you wonder, will Jeter and Mo get in on the first ballot or have to wait themselves?

    —————————–

    They’ll get in but they won’t be a unanimous decision.

  93. pat January 10th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Only the writers who OK’ed their ballot be made public. The majority didn’t.

    http://bbwaa.com/13-HOF-ballots/

  94. mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    here is a partial list of voters:

    http://bbwaa.com/13-hof-ballots/

  95. Warning Track Power January 10th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
    What % of the writers turned in blank ballots?
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    I don’t know the numbers.
    1 panel member on ESPN baseball tonight admitted he turned in a blank ballot. What a jerk!

    I would have no problem is PED users were admitted in the HOF. Just make sure there is a designated area, a specific room that has those players and clearly states they were guilty of using PED’s.

    What’s the problem with that?

  96. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    “Could you imagine that lineup?”

    If they aren’t going spend big, they need to have far more success growing their own than they have had since the mid-90s. If not, the Yankees are going to look very different than what we have had the privilege of watching. So whether it’s the Angels or Dodgers or fill in the blank, a lot of teams could look much better than the Yankees until something changes.

  97. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    Pat,

    Thanks for the article link. Doubt I would have found it there. Good work!

  98. Warning Track Power January 10th, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    Ken Rosenthal FOXSports.com
    Bagwell, Martinez, McGriff, Raines, Smith, Trammell
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    No surprise that Rosenthal has no idea how to vote. Stip that man of his cridentials already.
    He and Tim McCarver probably collaborated on who to vote for and why.

  99. G. Love January 10th, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    With this random HGH testing news? I really doubt we ever see Alex Rodriguez play another game. I also think Big Papi & a guy like Ryan Braun will struggle mightily next season. Just a hunch.

    And Hal’s right. We should be thrilled with this team. We don’t need a RH hitting OF. We could just slot Mo in that role! He’s the best CF on the team after all…

  100. Shame Spencer January 10th, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    @teixeiramark25

    Very proud of @MLB and @MLB_PLAYERS for stepping up our drug testing. Lets make our game a great example for kids!

    Lol

  101. mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    I find the ballots of Kicuchi, Killion and Painter quite curious. 2 of them had Bernie.
    Green, Lofton, Mattingly , Smith were prevalent. Julio Franco ?!?

    Davidoffs was bizarre, leaving off Piazza but not Clemens, Bonds and Bagwell.

  102. Shame Spencer January 10th, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    We overpaid so much for Youk it’s insane….. if you’re gonna overpay a guy to take a one year deal, make it a guy that’s actually good at something.

  103. mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    I would have no problem is PED users were admitted in the HOF. Just make sure there is a designated area, a specific room that has those players and clearly states they were guilty of using PED’s.
    =======================
    Yeah. Put them in a corner somewhere.
    In a dimly lit room.

  104. Nick in SF January 10th, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    “@teixeiramark25

    Very proud of @MLB and @MLB_PLAYERS for stepping up our drug testing. Lets make our game a great example for kids! #JuicePress!”

    You forgot the most important part, Tex!

  105. blake January 10th, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    “Could you imagine that lineup?”

    They’d be awesome short term…..in 3 or 4 years though they’d be Trout and the old guys with a 200+ million dollar payroll most likely

  106. blake January 10th, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Tex could use a little boost

  107. blake January 10th, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    @Rotoworld_BB: Yankees have ‘nothing alive’ on Morse http://t.co/qWZOA1uP

    Chad is the source

  108. Warning Track Power January 10th, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
    I would have no problem is PED users were admitted in the HOF. Just make sure there is a designated area, a specific room that has those players and clearly states they were guilty of using PED’s.
    =======================
    Yeah. Put them in a corner somewhere.
    In a dimly lit room.
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    Nah. Only the brightest lights should be used in that room.
    Prior to this year the HOF is made up of people that broke the law, drug addicts, criminals and basically bad people.
    Why does MLB want to attempt to fool the public that only the best of the best humans are resting inside the HOF? It’s ridiculous and there has to be a change made for the benefit of the game.
    I have a feeling that Bud wants to pretend the steroid era never existed. Thus not allowing any of the players from that era that achieved much success the chance to enter the HOF.

  109. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    What does “nothing alive” mean? No talks or no outstanding offer?

    Patience. Zenlike patience.

  110. mick January 10th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Prior to this year the HOF is made up of people that broke the law, drug addicts, criminals and basically bad people.
    ========================
    Like gambling on the game, usage cheats and corrupts the numbers of the game esp the HR #’s.

  111. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
    What does “nothing alive” mean?

    ————————————

    Nothing going on

  112. LordD99 January 10th, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    From an image point of view, this announcement is fine. In reality, it’s pointless. Unlike steroids, HGH does nothing to enhance performance. Nothing.

  113. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    I am more interested in baseball records than Hall of Fame admission. Bud, as the newfound drug czar, put an asterisk by the new home run records. Frick did it. So could he.

  114. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    AAO,

    I was hoping that wasn’t what it meant.

  115. spidanyc January 10th, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    blake January 10th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
    @Rotoworld_BB: Yankees have ‘nothing alive’ on Morse http://t.co/qWZOA1uP

    Chad is the source

    ————————————————————————————————————-

    That’s because a trade is in the works for Justin Upton. Cashman and Towers are tight, and Towers is familiar with the Yankees minor league system. It just makes too much sense not to happen.

  116. blake January 10th, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    @KenDavidoff: Here’s more on Hal Steinbrenner’s media session at the #MLB owners’ meetings. #Yankees http://t.co/Z7clOHpo

  117. blake January 10th, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    “Asked if that meant there was some wiggle room on the $189 million, which is the luxury tax threshold, Steinbrenner responded, “I’ve been resolute that that is our goal, and that is our goal. But I’ve also said, including spring training a year ago, that to achieve that goal, these young players have to step up and get the job done.” Steinbrenner mentioned pitchers Manny Banuelos and Michael Pineda, both of whom experienced significant injury setbacks last year, as two such key young players.”

    From the link

  118. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
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