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Cashman: Nunez could be considered for utility role

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 10, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I’m still trying to decide whether this is a new stance or simply stating the obvious.

Brian Cashman told ESPN New York that, if Eduardo Nunez makes the big league roster this season, it’s going to be as a utility infielder.

“If he is at the big-league level, he is going to have to,” Cashman said. “We have everyday guys at other positions. If he makes our club, it will be at a utility role.”

Previously, Cashman has indicated that the Yankees view Nunez as a shortstop, and last season they optioned Nunez to Triple-A specifically to have him play that position every day. During the Winter Meetings, after news broke about Alex Rodriguez’s hip injury, Cashman said he didn’t consider Nunez to be a realistic option to play third, but that came with a caveat.

“That doesn’t mean he won’t be an option,” Cashman said. “I’m just telling you what I think.”

So, basically, the Yankees believe Nunez’s best fit is at shortstop, and if he’s going to have an everyday role, it’s almost certainly going to come at that position. But if he’s not going to have an everyday role — and right now, there’s no everyday infield role available on the big league roster – Nunez is going to have to fall into some sort of utility role. At the very least he would probably have to backup at second base.

“At an everyday basis, he is a shortstop,” Cashman said. “If not, you could play him anywhere, except for catcher and first.”

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169 Responses to “Cashman: Nunez could be considered for utility role”

  1. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    the FO has come back to sanity concerning nunez!

    this is the best news i’ve heard in a while.

    go get ‘em nuney!

  2. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 11:43 am
    AAO – I’m still shocked at Piazza… and I NEVER liked Piazza, personally. His eyebrow situation always rubbed me wrong, but I know manscaping is important for the Eye-talian males. I just always loved rooting against him…. probably because he was so good. I never thought I’d be defending the guy.

    ———————–

    I’m surprised he didn’t get in either

    I enjoyed watching Piazza play of course this was before my dislike for the Mets grew to an insane level.

  3. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Given the way they have mishandled Nunez to date, it’s the latter, stating the obvious. He has to be in that role to have any value, assuming Jeter can be Jeter (or at least the 39 year old version).

  4. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 10th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    True

    But we wouldn’t even be discussing it if guys like Bagwell and Piazza got in.

    Yeah, I see them as casualties of a very tentative voting season based on all of the other stuff. I’ll be honest. I don’t know enough about first-round balloting to know what kinds of numbers are the norm – if there is such a thing. And I don’t know enough about Bagwell’s career to know whether he’s an HOF person in terms of his numbers. If both “should” have made it this year, hopefully both will make it next year.

  5. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Shame Spencer January 10th, 2013 at 11:42 am
    Let’s play another round of Hughes or Cano!

    This is gonna be a fun game to play all season.. who would you rather sign IF you had to pick one (Team Greedy obviously wants both): Hughes or Cano?

    —————————-

    Cano no question. I’m choosing the best second baseman in the game.

  6. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 10th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Oops

    “True

    But we wouldn’t even be discussing it if guys like Bagwell and Piazza got in.”

    Yeah, I see them as casualties of a very tentative voting season based on all of the other stuff. I’ll be honest. I don’t know enough about first-round balloting to know what kinds of numbers are the norm – if there is such a thing. And I don’t know enough about Bagwell’s career to know whether he’s an HOF person in terms of his numbers. If both “should” have made it this year, hopefully both will make it next year.

  7. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    “This is gonna be a fun game to play all season.. who would you rather sign IF you had to pick one (Team Greedy obviously wants both): Hughes or Cano?”

    Expanding on what I wrote on the last thread: Obviously, in a vacuum, it’s Cano, but price and years matter. If they aren’t going to go back to being free spenders, I would not give Cano more than six years, no matter what.

  8. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 10th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    “One of those is not like the others”

    Without question. It’s actually disheartening to me to hear him say that he’s voting in all three next year. But whatever.

  9. Bronx Jeers January 10th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    I liked Pete’s stance on the whole 1st ballot induction thing.

    If a player is good enough to get in then why wait? Has his career gotten any better because a year has passed?

  10. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 10th, 2013 at 11:45 am
    True

    But we wouldn’t even be discussing it if guys like Bagwell and Piazza got in.

    Yeah, I see them as casualties of a very tentative voting season based on all of the other stuff. I’ll be honest. I don’t know enough about first-round balloting to know what kinds of numbers are the norm – if there is such a thing. And I don’t know enough about Bagwell’s career to know whether he’s an HOF person in terms of his numbers. If both “should” have made it this year, hopefully both will make it next year.

    ———————

    Well only 44 players have been first ballot Hall of Famers. The most recent one was Rickey Henderson.

    Believe it or not this is Bagwell’s third yr on the ballot.

  11. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    “Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    It would suck if Cano wins the MVP.”
    ===================================
    no it wouldn’t.

    too much success is a good problem to have to deal with.

  12. pat January 10th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    YankeesWFAN
    Former Yankee Marcus Thames has been named hitting coach for Class A Tampa Yankees. @TampaYankees

  13. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    “If a player is good enough to get in then why wait? Has his career gotten any better because a year has passed?”

    Bill Madden pretends to need more time:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....-1.1237163

    So why not Piazza, who, though consistently suspected of using steroids, never tested positive and wasn’t named in the Mitchell Report? I, apparently like many others, feel I need more time and more information before I cast my vote for Piazza.

    For one thing, I’m a little curious as to why he postponed the publication date on his autobiography until after the Hall of Fame election. But the very fact that he finished fourth, at 57.8% and far ahead of Bonds and Clemens, tells me he is getting in eventually — barring some revelations forthcoming about him from the steroid underworld.

    What Madden is revealing is that he isn’t qualified to vote.

  14. RadioKev January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    “Brian Cashman told ESPN New York that, if Eduardo Nunez makes [another team's] big league roster this season, it’s going to be as a utility infielder.”

  15. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    “no it wouldn’t.

    too much success is a good problem to have to deal with.”

    Not when the payroll is shrinking, and Hal and his siblings have forgotten why they were born so rich.

  16. Shame Spencer January 10th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    “This is gonna be a fun game to play all season.. who would you rather sign IF you had to pick one (Team Greedy obviously wants both): Hughes or Cano.”

    Price (and years) matter.

    —————-

    I’ve listed my projections a couple of times in the past but I think you were on sabbatical ;)

    Hughes – 4-5/$75-80
    Cano – 8-10/$200-225

  17. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Cashman doing his Bud Abbott “whose on 1st?” in regard to Nunez is hilarious. If I’m a GM and read these babblings, I’m on the horn to Cashman about Nunez, before Hal summons the guys in the white coats.

  18. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Shame

    Given the contract length, Hughes. I wouldn’t give any player over 27 8-10 years.

    If Hughes has a bad season, neither.

  19. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Granted defense counts for a ton but take a look at this:

    Player A: .272 .318 .384 .701

    Player B: .275 .342 .353 .695

    One of these shortstops wants 7 years 126 million dollars, the other is Eduardo Nunez

  20. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    “One of these shortstops wants 7 years 126 million dollars, the other is Eduardo Nunez”

    One of these is two years younger and can actually play SS at an elite level

  21. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    Did you read the first sentence?

    Andrus is 24 and Nunez is 25 BTW

  22. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    blake says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    Saying Nunez can run as well as Andrus is like saying Nova can throw as hard as Felix Hernandez….that one thing may be true but it really doesn’t matter

  23. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Obviously Elvis Andrus is addicted to crack cocaine.

    ——————-

    Where did that come from?

  24. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    If Nunez could field like Andrus then he’d have tons of value…..but he doesn’t and unfortunately that means pretty much everytjing

  25. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Nunez can hit as well and run as well as Andrus. Defense is no contest obviously. So is Nunez at least worth half of 7 years 126 million?

  26. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    If defense counts for “everything” (hyperbole) then Morse is worth???

  27. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Stinks with the glove but still his value is higher than the casual fan suspects in my opinion.

    ———————-

    He has value but I think sometimes Cashman and co. over hype it.

  28. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    i think nunez can overcome his defensive problem. i think its all in his head. most of his errors come on fairly easy plays. he’s got the tools, he just has to put it all together.

  29. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:10 pm
    If defense counts for “everything” (hyperbole) then Morse is worth???

    Morse isn’t a SS….he’s a DH…..Nunez isn’t a SS either at a big league level and that’s the problem

  30. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    “If defense counts for “everything” (hyperbole) then Morse is worth???”

    You’re not really comparing the relative defensive importance of a SS to DH or even an corner OF, right?

  31. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Labeling Nunez as a “B Prospect” is a warning label with the skull and cross bones. DO NOT Consume anything outta this bottle.

  32. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Morse wants to play the field to set himself up for his next contract.

    And Nunez IS a SS at the big league level according to Cashman.

  33. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Ys Guy says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:11 pm
    i think nunez can overcome his defensive problem. i think its all in his head. most of his errors come on fairly easy plays. he’s got the tools, he just has to put it all together.

    He doesn’t have the natural footwork and rhythm of a big league SS….I think he could improve if he was just left alone to play every day but the Yanks don’t seem willing to do that and by the time Jeter retires he will be almost a FA and nearing 30

  34. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Labeling Nunez as a “B Prospect” is a warning label with the skull and cross bones. DO NOT Consume anything outta this bottle.

    —————————-

    If he was not a B prospect then what was he?

  35. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    “And Nunez IS a SS at the big league level according to Cashman.”

    What else is he going to say?

  36. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    The point is that defense is not everything. That’s hyperbole.

  37. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    The point is that defense is not everything. That’s hyperbole.

    It is at SS unless you hit like Jeter for 15 years

  38. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Comparing defensive importance if SS to RF is absurd. A team cannot have a SS who can’t handle routine plays. That said, maybe Nunez could in time.

  39. Against All Odds January 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    The point is that defense is not everything.

    ———————–

    It is on this team. That’s what they believe in

  40. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Oh so Elvis ability to make contact and steal bases does not factor into his 18M per year asking price whatsoever?

  41. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    The value of defense at SS is the difference in Towers asking for Andrus as a centerpiece for Justin Upyon vs Nunez not even being a thought…..unless he was the 3rd or 4th player in the deal most likely

  42. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    even if nunez doesnt become a great ss, he has great value if he can just avoid the stupid throws. the mental mistakes are the only thing holding him back from being an extremly valuable player for the yankees. i think he can overcome that even if he never becomes a f/t ss.

  43. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    You don’t know that. If Nunez starts the year with better fielding his value could skyrocket.

  44. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    1st off, NOBODY on the 25 Man Roster issa “B Prospect”. And secondly, Nunez was the Yankee offense vs Detroit in the Playoffs. There is no way Nunez IS, or ever was, a B prospect.

  45. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:17 pm
    Oh so Elvis ability to make contact and steal bases does not factor into his 18M per year asking price whatsoever?

    Sure it does….but so does his age, upside offensively and elite defense….it’s the total package and Nunie is missing a big piece of that…..the one that actually makes him a SS

  46. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    The first thing a SS must do is field. Hitting is a bonus. Nunez could likely hit well enough if not a bit above average. He has to field to have middle infield value.

  47. G. Love January 10th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    Considering the lack of guys who can put a bat on the ball and hit it where it’s pitched on this team last season, I hope Nunez survives. It’s both inspiring and embarrassing that he gave some of the best at bats as the season slipped away because he wasn’t hero swinging from his heels in every at bat.

    While I agree that there is no spot for him with Jeter and Youk expected to start, I’d put Nunez at DH at this point against both RHP and LHP and take my chances.

    And trading him is a dangerous game. If Jeter needed more time to be 100% I’d rather take Nunez at SS than Nix as a starter. I like Nix, but only in his role.

  48. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    The age difference is one year.

  49. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    DONNYBROOK says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    1st off, NOBODY on the 25 Man Roster issa “B Prospect”. And secondly, Nunez was the Yankee offense vs Detroit in the Playoffs. There is no way Nunez IS, or ever was, a B prospect.

    What part of “was” a B prospect didn’t you get? He’s not a prospect anymore

  50. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    That would be something. The Yankees installing a “B Prospect” as the DH.

  51. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    You don’t know that. If Nunez starts the year with better fielding his value could skyrocket.

    Uhm…..ok Cervelli plays like Buster Posey then so will his I guess

  52. G. Love January 10th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Considering we have no DH, I’d consider Nunez our best option at this point.

    I’d rather him than signing Jim Thome who will be healthy for maybe 15 games of the contract he signs.

  53. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    “That would be something. The Yankees installing a “B Prospect” as the DH.”

    Torre used Miguel Cairo and his 77 career OPS+ at 1B. So what?

  54. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    So what are you saying? He’s Now a B+ prospect?

    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    – THE WAFFLE HOUSE IS NOW OPEN -

  55. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:21 pm
    The age difference is one year.

    And Andrus has been a starter for 3 seasons and Nunez can’t even crack a big league lineup every day because he’s a liability on defense

  56. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    More hyperbole from Blake.

  57. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    “So what are you saying? He’s Now a B+ prospect?”

    He’s not a prospect at all…..thought I said that twice already now

  58. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    If you guys wanna believe Nunez’s value is anywhere in the stratosphere of Elvis Andrus then don’t let me stop ya

  59. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    I understand in The South, they pour hyperbole all over their flap-jacks.

  60. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    ok lets settle one thing here, the difference in age between adrus and nunez…

    nunez is 1 year 2 months and 11 days older.

  61. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    Where do you believe Nunez value is Blake?

    Nunez and Elvis have comparable value in a few categories. Both have comparable offensive upside (they are 1 year apart), both hit for contact and Nunez has power potential, both steal bases and pester opposing pitchers.

    The one difference is elite defense vs. defensive “liability” at shortstop.

    So Andrus is worth 7 years 126 million, then what do you see Nunez $$ value at Blake? Obviously not 0 dollars so pick a number between zero and 126 million.

    I pick 60 million.

  62. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    Keeping in mind:

    Player A: .272 .318 .384 .701

    Player B: .275 .342 .353 .695

    One of these shortstops wants 7 years 126 million dollars, the other is Eduardo Nunez

  63. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    We got guys around here giving away Nunez AND Logan for 1yr of Morse. Absolutely ridiculous.

  64. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    It absolutely positively is absolutely ridiculous.

  65. Cashmoney January 10th, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    i have no idea the incoherent thought process which made B.Cashman decide that nunez can now be considered a U man in 13. IMO, nunez can probably do okay ss 2b and corner of. Yanks is dire need of rh of, Nunez is rh and N probably would be a better option offensively and quite possibly defensively than some of the name I read.

  66. chicken little January 10th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Shifting back to the HOF vote, Madden, Heyman and the others seem to be taking a guilty until proven innocent approach to everyone. With respect to Bonds, Clemens and the like I can understand it (though I don’t agree with it). However, players such as Biggio, Piazza, etc … will never be able to prove innocence. They should just ban any player who played from 1990-2010.

  67. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    “Where do you believe Nunez value is Blake?”

    Utility guy….with some upside. I certainly would try to keep him out of a deal for Morse because he does have value for the Yankees….but not sure Id let him hold it up if they demanded him…..I’m not saying you’re crazy for saying no either….,

  68. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    Phelps or Nova for Morse is equally ridiculous.

    Oh but let’s hesitate to include Adams in a package and never mention Hughes of course even though he’s in his final year in pinstripes.

  69. Tackelberry January 10th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
    We got guys around here giving away Nunez AND Logan for 1yr of Morse. Absolutely ridiculous.

    _____________________________________

    Thats my point. Nunez is worth MORE than a guy like Morse. Unfortunately, some people refuse to understand that or just can’t

  70. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    You think Nunez is worth 60 million?

  71. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    So Andrus hits like a utility guy?

  72. Cashmoney January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    *names…

    Andrus is overrated offensively, I really haven’t watch him consistently to have an opinion on how good he is defensively.

  73. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    As if you all needed reminding based on the above.

    – THE WAFFLE HOUSE IS OPEN -

  74. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    Yes, going by Andrus’ demands, Nunez hits as well runs as well and is worth half as much because of the errors.

  75. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    And half of 126 million is not the same stratosphere as Andrus. I’ve placed Nunez on the discount rack.

  76. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    “We got guys around here giving away Nunez AND Logan for 1yr of Morse. Absolutely ridiculous.”

    We only have one year of Logan!

  77. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:38 pm
    So Andrus hits like a utility guy?

    .286 last year and has improved offensively every year…..those numbers you keep posting is a much bigger sample for Andrus

  78. Cashmoney January 10th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    on HOF voting, one thought came across my mind after reading the results of yesterday’s voting is that fraud rod might have a hard time getting in.

  79. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    So what? Nunez hit .292 last year and he’s improving offensively with more playing time as well. You think Andrus is in a different stratosphere as a hitter?

  80. Cashmoney January 10th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Nunez imo, need a season at ss to prove if he can handle SS… my opinion is yes, but i am not certain. in some way, i hope jeter retires after 13, so Nunez can have a chance.

  81. chicken little January 10th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Morse fills a need for the Yanks. That said, overpaying and creating other holes for a guy like Morse is lunacy. There is a reason why the Nationals have relegated him to 4th OF/backup 1b status. Trading Logan and a prospect or two (as long as they aren’t uber prospects) I can understand. But including Nunez (who clearly is way more valuable than the Yanks give him credit for) for a one year player is silly. There is no one else in the Yankee system capable of backing up the infield (even if not so great defensively) and giving some pop offensively. Plus, Jeter is 38. Justin Upton, I can see including Nunez because Upton is far better than Morse and can start 160 games. But for a part time player? Don’t give up Nunez.

  82. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    I contest that they are the very same hitter and the very same baserunner and the very same base stealer and have the identical effect on their lineups.

    They are different fielders.

    That’s why Andrus = 126 and Nunez = half off K-mart special

  83. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:39 pm
    Yes, going by Andrus’ demands, Nunez hits as well runs as well and is worth half as much because of the errors.

    Ok man…..whatever you say

  84. chicken little January 10th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Unless Bonds and Clemens somehow get in, A-Rod isn’t getting in. Unlike Pizza, etc … A-Rod admitted taking steriods.

  85. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    I am being generous here Blake. What kind of enterprise you think we’re running here?

  86. chicken little January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Unless Bonds and Clemens somehow get in, A-Rod isn’t getting in. Unlike Pizza, etc … A-Rod admitted taking steroids.

  87. Cashmoney January 10th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    Piazza on roids, that definitely came across my mind, actually in my case, that was my first impression when i saw him at shea as a dodger. absolutely no proof though.

  88. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:46 pm
    I am being generous here Blake. What kind of enterprise you think we’re running here?

    No comment

  89. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    :lol:

  90. Cashmoney January 10th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    I also think Bagwell did loads of roids, Caminiti probably hook him up.

  91. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    Andrus has been a 4+ WAR player the last two seasons…..Nunez was -0.6 the only year he has played 100 games in the big leagues…..so basically Andrus is worth 4-5 more wins than a replacement Nunie

  92. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Honestly though if I’m Cashman and I’m fielding calls on Nunez, I pivot to Andrus. I say “We feel Nunez is a comparable hitter to Elvis Andrus at shortstop. Obviously Andrus is a gold glover so that’s why we want to focus on improving Nunez’ defense and we believe he will get better there with more time, confidence, experience etc etc…”

  93. bruceb January 10th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Good fielding will be more important than ever for the Yankees this year as we try to compensate for the home runs lost by the departure of Swisher, Martin, Ibanez and Jones, plus the injury absence of Rodriguez. How many games will Nunez cost us with his shoddy fielding? I suspect a few more games than he wins with his bat.

  94. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    And I would always bring the conversation back to “valuable hitter for the shortstop position”.

  95. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    ” Obviously Andrus is a gold glover so that’s why we want to focus on improving Nunez’ defense and we believe he will get better there with more time, confidence, experience etc etc…””

    That’s when the GM you’re talking to laughs and says to call back when he has improved to that gold glove level

  96. blake January 10th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    You have to be able to play SS to have value as a hitter there…..that’s the point….if Nunez could play plus defense at SS he’d either be untouchable as Jeters successor or Justin Upton would be a Yankee right now

  97. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Truthiness should help A-Rod, although it probably won’t.

  98. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    I don’t think the GM calling would cut ties with me. Shortstops who can hit are one of the rarest commodities in baseball. That’s why you see Andrus asking for 18 M per year over 7 years. The guy calling me on Nunez is fixated on his bat. I reinforce that by comparing his hitting to a valuable and comparable player at short. The GM is going to expect me to inflate Nunez’ value a little bit.

  99. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    “But including Nunez (who clearly is way more valuable than the Yanks give him credit for) for a one year player is silly. ”

    Jeter’s situation makes it risky.

  100. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Well some unexplained glitch caused Chuck Knoblauch to go from steady ML 2B to error machine little leaguer. Can the reverse happen? Well Saltalamacchia suffered through a long spell where he could not throw the ball back to the pitcher.

    So maybe Nunez can fix whatever glitch and throw with more accuracy. He has great range.

  101. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    “So maybe Nunez can fix whatever glitch and throw with more accuracy. He has great range.”

    He’d need regular PT, patient management, and forgiving fans. Likely?

  102. Tyler January 10th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Nunez makes some really nice plays in the field. His problem almost seems to be on balls where he was time to plant his feet and throw. Almost seems mental to me.

  103. G. Love January 10th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Because of Jeter’s injury, you almost can’t trade Nunez. You’ve lost Ramiro Pena as the all glove backup plan and are down to Nix and Nunez as major league alternatives on the roster.

    Nunez is an important piece for this team going forward.

    And I think his bat is maturing/evolving into something this lineup lacks. I would include him in a trade for a real big piece, but not for something like Morse.

    The Morse thing is silly. Just sign Hairston, lose no players and get a guy who can hit LHP who can play more than just OF in a pinch and is athletic.

    The fact that Morse is leaking he doesn’t want to DH before he’s dealt tells me he’s a diva. If the Yankees want you to DH for them when you’ve just lost your starting job in DC, you should be thrilled.

  104. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Alexi Ramierez was a disaster defensively when he came up…..but the Sox just kept throwing him out there every day and eventually he became good enough….maybe Nunie could too but you have to be willing to take the lumps and the Yanks never are…,And also teams aren’t going to trade a lot for a guy that “might” get getter one day….especially when they are already 25 years old

  105. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    “Because of Jeter’s injury, you almost can’t trade Nunez. You’ve lost Ramiro Pena as the all glove backup plan and are down to Nix and Nunez as major league alternatives on the roster.”

    They chose Nix to back up Jeter last year…,,my guess is they are gonna try the super utility route with Nunie again and hope for better fortunes

  106. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    “The Morse thing is silly. Just sign Hairston, lose no players and get a guy who can hit LHP who can play more than just OF in a pinch and is athletic.”

    Morse is a better hitter than Hairston who can’t hit righties really at all…..That said…,Id try to keep Nunez out of a deal for him and they probably could Id think …,Nats don’t really need him

  107. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    The ever morphing Nunez situation is akin to what the Yanks did with Chamberlain. The Yankee hierarchy and Tommy Smothers love their Yo-Yo’s.

  108. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    An Upton trade would make it not matter!

  109. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    - THE WAFFLE HOUSE IS EXTENDING IT’S HOURS OF OPERATION -

  110. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    DONNYBROOK says:
    January 10, 2013 at 1:11 pm
    The ever morphing Nunez situation is akin to what the Yanks did with Chamberlain. The Yankee hierarchy and Tommy Smothers love their Yo-Yo’s.

    I think they did what they had to with Nunez….there was no spot for him in the big leagues so they tried to turn him into a super utility guy who can be pretty valuable…..didn’t work…,I guess they have decided to try again

  111. Tyler January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    I’d love to see David Adams get a chance too if he does well in AAA. I’d almost rather have had him split starts at 3B with someone than sign Youk for 13 mil

  112. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    @nytimes: Breaking News: Major League Baseball to Require Tougher Drug Tests
    http://t.co/VXKQ0V7X

    Wonder who will be the first to fail an HGH test

  113. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Tyler says:
    January 10, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    I’d love to see David Adams get a chance too if he does well in AAA. I’d almost rather have had him split starts at 3B with someone than sign Youk for 13 mil

    Me too….Adams/Chavez woukd have been ok

  114. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    The Yanks did Not “have to” demote Nunez last season. They took a kid and set-back his confidence and developement. Same stuff we have been witnessing for awhile. DUMB

  115. 4 NYY January 10th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Hard not to like Nunez. He should have been given extensive outfield work before now and hopefully with his speed could help there as well as infield. I too think it’s more mental than anything. He has the tools, just needs to flat out improve. Maybe it’s a lack of concentration or even lack of confidence, who knows. Would be great to see him in there and doing better this year. Love his speed and hustle.

  116. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    DONNYBROOK says:
    January 10, 2013 at 1:16 pm
    The Yanks did Not “have to” demote Nunez last season. They took a kid and set-back his confidence and developement. Same stuff we have been witnessing for awhile. DUMB

    Having him kick the ball all over the stadium was hurting his confidence and the team

  117. bruceb January 10th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    - THE WAFFLE HOUSE IS EXTENDING IT’S HOURS OF OPERATION -

    So is the proofreading department…especially for those who don’t know when to use an apostrophe ‘S’!

  118. hardwired7 January 10th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    “And I think his bat is maturing/evolving into something this lineup lacks.”

    I second this. Plus, his speed and aggressiveness on the bases is a very real element.

    Hopefully this is the year where Gardner finally lets loose as well. Having two guys in the lineup that immediately make the other team pay for letting them get on base is exactly what the Yanks need.

  119. pat January 10th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    EricFisherSBJ
    MLBPA exec dir Weiner in Nov said the 8 positive testosterone tests by players in ’12, most in 5 yrs, “caught attention of both sides.”

  120. jacksquat January 10th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 10:03 am
    hannah davis looks like she could be jeter’s sister daughter.

    Fixed that for ya.

  121. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Great. Now I got Nancy Manners on my tail.

  122. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    “He’s a heckuva hitter, but he can’t play defense and he’s become very fragile, so you can only pencil him in for about 120 games a year,” the scout said. “Considering you’re only going to have him one year, I wouldn’t give up a frontline player or a top prospect for him. I think the best thing the Nats can hope for is an OK lefty reliever and some salary relief, which would give them some more money to play with if they need to make a move sometime during the season.”

    @baseballpro: In this week’s On the Beat, @jperrotto opines on the HoF voting, and gets a scout’s take on Alex Rodriguez: http://t.co/zkrmCUJ0. #Yankees

    Lets hope Boonie is that ok reliever

  123. jacksquat January 10th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    pat January 10th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
    EricFisherSBJ
    MLBPA exec dir Weiner in Nov said the 8 positive testosterone tests by players in ’12, most in 5 yrs, “caught attention of both sides.”

    Yes, time to stiffen the fines. Obviously no one cares about 50 games. Melky got 50 then got a two year contract after the season.

  124. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    @JeffPassan: New: MLB has “longitudinal testing program” in which lab will maintain baseline T/E ratio to identify suspicious samples even when T/E <4:1.

  125. jacksquat January 10th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Nunez’ fld% was fine in the minors in 2010 and 2012, when he got consistent playing time at SS. Nunez’ main problem is Jeter.

  126. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    @JeffPassan: In English: Baseball will start keeping a doping profile of sorts on players so even the slightest change in testosterone ratio is evident.

  127. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Yea, and include Braun in that Testosterone Gang.

  128. Tyler January 10th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    jacksquat January 10th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 10:03 am
    hannah davis looks like she could be jeter’s sister daughter.

    Fixed that for ya.
    ——————————————————————-

    I found out yesterday that she’s that genie in the DirecTV (I think?) commercials. She’s a smokeshow but yeah she definitely looks so much younger… 38 to 21 or whatever is a little weird haha.

  129. Tyler January 10th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    I’d love to see Ortiz get busted again. It would be great to hear the media spin after that.

  130. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 10th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Truthiness may indeed end up being the key. We’ll certainly find out in the future when Arod is eligible. I do think there is a natural tendency to resent the feeling of being lied to, and I believe it is seen as a character issue. I know that when Jason Giambi was outed in the Game of Shadows debacle, I wanted him out of the Bronx on a handrail. But when he came forward and apologized and basically owned up to it, I did a total 180.

  131. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    http://riveraveblues.com/2013/.....ley-81287/

    Nice report on Turley

  132. pkyankfan69 January 10th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    If the Yanks could get Morse for Logan + a lesser prospect that would certainly be a nice boost to the Yanks offense. I could see Morse in the 5 hole behind Tex.

    Boone is probably a slightly above average reliever. I think he’s a bit better than his numbers suggest from last year as he was overused by Girardi.

    As the Yankee BP sits now it looks like:

    Mo – DRob – Joba – Logan – Aardsma – Rapada – Phelps (assuming Nova gets first crack at the #5 spot in the rotation)

    If Logan was dealt, it would be interesting to see who would take his place in the BP. Would they go with a lefty specialist like Cabral(assuming health)/Rondon type to have a second lefty in the BP or would they just go with the best available arm. Obviously Logan is a lefty but he is not a lefty that really dominates lefties at all, his numbers against righties and lefties are really pretty similar over the past 2 seasons. If Montgomery had an excellent spring I wonder if he would get consideration. I’m sure Eppley who was solid for a pretty decent portion of last year would also be in the mix.

  133. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    If the Saw Bones working on A-Rod comes back with a questionable evaluation after taking a buzz-saw to that hip bone, the Yanks need to buy A-Rod out and adios the situation. We saw how this kinda thing can drag out via the Raiders and Bo Jax.

  134. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    Hannah Davis will be 23 in May. She’s a woman physically. They are 16 years apart so if anything she’d be hard for Derek to relate to socially and probably extremely emotional. He’ll get bored and annoyed quickly.

  135. Shame Spencer January 10th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    @nytimes: Breaking News: Major League Baseball to Require Tougher Drug Tests
    http://t.co/VXKQ0V7X

    Wonder who will be the first to fail an HGH test

    —————-

    Andy Pettitte’s dad.

  136. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    “I’d love to see Ortiz get busted again. It would be great to hear the media spin after that.”

    Since the mediots are still patiently waiting for Ortiz to get back to them on the prior disclosure of usage, it’s reasonable to think they would ignore the next one too.

  137. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    Let’s let Jeter date who he wants. Hefner with a 26 year old is one thing. This is another.

  138. Shame Spencer January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    pat January 10th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    EricFisherSBJ
    MLBPA exec dir Weiner in Nov said the 8 positive testosterone tests by players in ’12, most in 5 yrs, “caught attention of both sides.”

    ——————

    Biggest load of crap I’ve ever heard, and we quote Cashman on here regularly.

    This just caught their attention…?

  139. FiretheUMPIRE January 10th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    True, Jeter is an athlete. It’s not like he has to pee through a tube or use a walker.

  140. austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    They can buy AROD out with $114 million payable over five years. He has a contract. Get realistic.

  141. pkyankfan69 January 10th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Realistically, how many Yankee fans are there in the world?

    5 Million?

    Am I way off base here?

  142. blake January 10th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    “Realistically, how many Yankee fans are there in the world?

    5 Million?”

    There are roughly 19 million people who live in NYC alone

  143. tomingeorgia January 10th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    pk,
    And more of us around the world.

  144. UnKnown January 10th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Jeter’s not doing anything wrong. He is single, so let him give out as many gift baskets as he wants.

    The dude is amazing. He is the Captain of the greatest Pro Sports Franchise ever and somehow manages to stay out of the papers except for pointless things like who he is dating or if he ate a cheeseburger for lunch.

    Greatest athlete I have ever seen and a true role model.

  145. Tyler January 10th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    austinmac January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
    Let’s let Jeter date who he wants. Hefner with a 26 year old is one thing. This is another.
    —————————————————————–

    I’m not judging at all, haha. I could care less about an athlete’s personal life (or anybodies really for that matter). Just tired of talking about the value of Nunez as a SS.

  146. Tyler January 10th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    UnKnown January 10th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    Jeter’s not doing anything wrong. He is single, so let him give out as many gift baskets as he wants.

    The dude is amazing. He is the Captain of the greatest Pro Sports Franchise ever and somehow manages to stay out of the papers except for pointless things like who he is dating or if he ate a cheeseburger for lunch.

    Greatest athlete I have ever seen and a true role model.
    ———————————————————————

    I’m not a fan of using athletes as role models but Jeter would be top of the list. Class all the way.

  147. Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Whatever the number, it’s more than the current Steinbrenners deserve.

  148. pkyankfan69 January 10th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    OK, so I’m probably a bit low.

    Let’s say there are 20 Million Yankee fans in the world.

    We just need all 20 Million fans to donate $5 to the ARod early retirement plan (The Stein boys can chip in the last $14M) and we have our problem solved. I’d glady give 5 bucks to see the Yankees remain a contender for the next 5 years.

    Who’s starting the petition?

  149. UnKnown January 10th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    “I’m not a fan of using athletes as role models but Jeter would be top of the list. Class all the way”

    I can agree with all of this, no doubt.

  150. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Your kidding yourself if you believe just because a guy has a contract, he will Not agree to be bought out. A-Rod and that Ego will Not like being planted on the bench, or playing sparingly at best. The Yanks can also conduct a PR Campaign via Sherman The Hack, and increase the Boo decibels.

  151. Tyler January 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Rich in NJ January 10th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
    “I’d love to see Ortiz get busted again. It would be great to hear the media spin after that.”

    Since the mediots are still patiently waiting for Ortiz to get back to them on the prior disclosure of usage, it’s reasonable to think they would ignore the next one too.
    —————————————————————-

    Oh absolutely but I think somebody would have to at least call him out if he tested positive again. But maybe (and probably) that is just way too naive of me.

  152. DONNYBROOK January 10th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    As long as ESPN continues to drive the sports media, R\Sox players will get a pass.

  153. blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    @Gambo620: Uptown signs coming down at Chase! Don’t read anything into it, was something agreed to at end of season by both parties…

  154. Tyler January 10th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Any word on who was the 1 writer that put Aaron Sele on his HOF ballot?

  155. Nick in SF January 10th, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    “Realistically, how many Yankee fans are there in the world? 5 Million?”

    There were about 10 million Yankee fans in Taiwan alone back when Chien-ming Wang was pitching for the Yankees. At least a few of them are still Yankee fans. But I doubt any of them would care to donate to an Arod buyout scheme.

  156. Jerkface January 10th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Any comps between Nunez & Andrus that are using straight up slash lines is highly disingenuous. Andrus was a major league starting SS at age 20 in the majors. Nunez was in Low A. Andrus hit .286 .349 .378 .727 last year, in more PA than Nunez has ever had at a major league level. His OBP has been above .340 both the past 2 years. Combined with his elite defense he is a true first tier SS at the major league level.

    Nunez would have to hit like his 2012 slash line, for more than 30 games, and also play defense.

  157. blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    “Nunez would have to hit like his 2012 slash line, for more than 30 games, and also play defense.”

    Yup

  158. AAA January 10th, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    But I doubt any of them would care to donate to an Arod buyout scheme.

    ==========================================

    Still count against the lux tax anyway, wouldn’t he?

  159. blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    “Still count against the lux tax anyway, wouldn’t he?”

    Whatever they paid him would Id guess.

  160. Jerkface January 10th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Still count against the lux tax anyway, wouldn’t he?

    Yup.

  161. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    i despise the term ‘future hall of famer.

    to me there are only 3 future hall of famers, jacob rupert, hank o’day and deacon white.

    barry bonds, mike piazza, dale murphy, don mattingly were all referred to as ‘future hall of famers’ over and over during and after their playing days. turns out at least some of those guys aren’t future hall of famers.

    i wait till someone gets voted in, THEN they are a future hall of famer, not before.

  162. Nick in SF January 10th, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    If the Yankees buy Arod out, that would count against the luxury tax, yes. But I think the proposal here is for Yankee fans around the world to chip into a private fund to give to Arod and then he presumably retires and the Yanks then don’t pay out the rest of his contract. So in this fantasy the Yanks are then off the hook for his contract and the luxury tax hit.

  163. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    i despise the term then i used it 3 times in my comment……

  164. blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    I would donate my part to the cause of getting Ex to retire

  165. joeman January 10th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    rumor had it that the steroid era saved baseball from going down the tubes

  166. blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Alex

  167. blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Baseball would have made it back eventually …. Probably would have taken a lot longer though without 1998

  168. blake January 10th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    I think it’s only fair that the wealthy Yankee fans pay more towards getting Arod to retire than everyone else

  169. Ys Guy January 10th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    new post city…

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