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Tickets available for BBWAA awards dinner

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 12, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

In one week, the New York chapter of the Baseball Writers’ Association of America will hold is annual awards dinner to recognize some of the biggest names and greatest talents in the game. The dinner will be held next Saturday, January 19, at the New York Hilton. Baseball’s top awards — MVP, CY Young, Manager of the Year and Rookie of the Year — will be handed out, as well as the New York chapter’s own awards.

It’s an amazing experience, and you can still order tickets through the BBWAA website. Get dressed up, have a nice meal and meet some all-star players. Why not?

These are this year’s honorees:

A.L. MVP: Miguel Cabrera
N.L. MVP: Buster Posey
A.L. Cy Young: David Price
N.L. Cy Young: RA Dickey
A.L. Rookie of the Year: Mike Trout
N.L. Rookie of the Year: Bryce Harper
A.L. Manager of the Year: Bob Melvin
N.L. Manager of the Year: Davey Johnson

Player of the Year: Miguel Cabrera
Postseason MVP: Pablo Sandoval
Toast of the Town: R.A. Dickey
Long and Meritorious Service Award: Chipper Jones
Joan Payson Humanitarian Award: CC Sabathia
Good Guy Award: Nick Swisher
Casey Stengel “You Could Look It Up” Award: Jim Abbott
Willie, Mickey & The Duke Award: 1973 N.L. Champion Mets
You Gotta Have Heart Award: Jim Duquette, daughter Lindsey Duquette, and Michael Weiner

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297 Responses to “Tickets available for BBWAA awards dinner”

  1. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    I beat a Mustang in an Echoe once,…total fun!

  2. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    Truth be told, I’ve never lost a HWY race.

  3. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    helluva good football game coming down to the wire…

  4. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    The Nationals are showing “heavy interest” in Javier Vazquez, reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today (on Twitter). He says scouts are raving about the right-hander, who is throwing 92-95 mph during winter ball in Puerto Rico.

    Vazquez, 36, sat out the 2012 season after pitching to a 3.69 ERA with 7.6 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9 in 192 2/3 innings for the Marlins in 2011. The ACES client has been scouted by the Red Sox, White Sox, Phillies, Royals, Rays, and Mets in recent weeks, but he remains undecided about a return next season. Vazquez has favored East Coast teams throughout his career.

    The Nationals already have a stacked rotation featuring Stephen Strasburg, Gio Gonzalez, Jordan Zimmermann, Dan Haren, and Ross Detwiler. They do lack a left-handed reliever though, so Detwiler could shift to the bullpen with Vazquez taking his spot in the rotation.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#xZr3sEFaepfgjctZ.99

  5. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    Ys, great, it would be boring otherwise :)

  6. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    Stone, any music links?

  7. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    jmills,

    Nothing inspiring me right now – watching the Baltimore/Denver playoff game while drawing up hypothetical trades to get Morse and Ramos from the Nats – - – -how are things going on this Saturday night??

  8. tomingeorgia January 12th, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    jmills,
    You never met my 1965 Ford Falcon 289 plain jane two-door with Galaxy brakes, 3/4 race cam, Gabriel shocks, two four-barrel Hollys on an Edlebrock manifold, 3.99 rear end, Pirellis all around and a set of monster bars to keep the rear leafs from rolling up. Beat a 911T with that thing at Lime Rock. Fun days.

  9. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    mills im surprised the nfl hasn’t put a team in toronto to this point. they seem so focused on trying to cultivate the london market but they ignore canada.

    years ago there was something of a truce between the cfl and the nfl but once the cfl tried it’s failed ‘american invasion’ back in the 90′s i thought sure the nfl would jump in.

  10. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Nats are looking for pitching – they seriously considering Vazquez – I mean – do you deal Hughes, Joseph, Murphy, Whitley for Morse and Ramos – and then sign Marcum to join the 2013 rotation as the no. 4 starter?

  11. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    the bills playing up there has been more of an attempt by buffalo to sell tickets than an nfl attempt to win fans in canada, imo.

  12. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Stone, I’m just thankful to make it here on another Saturday night.

  13. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Ys, the Argos won, ….nothing else matters , my friend.

  14. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Stone, I’m just thankful to make it here on another Saturday night.

    :)

  15. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    CBS promoting the Masters – first signs of Spring for me – - – -

  16. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Tom, you ate a true bootlegga’!!!!!! :)

  17. Bo knows January 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    I beat a Mustang in an Echoe once,…total fun
    ———————
    True story
    I was driving south from Edmonton to the airport (six lanes) in the Alfa. This entitled Corvette kept cutting me off in slower traffic which displeased me a tetch. So at the one set of lights enroute, I stuck him in behind an old beater. Well the lights changed and I took it up to 120 and waited – Here he comes and he’s mad. Well, his clue should have been when I down shifted into fourth. His top end was 135 and I had at least another ten, at which point, I did a victory sweep across three lanes and then dropped back. Last I saw, I think he was chewing the steering wheel.

  18. tomingeorgia January 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    jmills,
    The only problem with that car was that, with that cam, you had to drive it in third at “legal” speeds. Basically, it was a hot mustang, same chassis, only the cops didn’t give you a second look.

  19. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    Bo, I loved the Alfa video BTW!

  20. Tar January 12th, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    “Nothing inspiring me right now – watching the Baltimore/Denver playoff game while drawing up hypothetical trades to get Morse and Ramos from the Nats ”

    Hypothetical? You mean none of this is for real?? We sure do put a lot of effort into “hypothetical” don’t we.

    Catch you all later

  21. austinmac January 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Jmills,

    I saw you mentioned a Nordmende earlier. I inherited a Nordmende radio from the 30s, I would think. The sound is like nothing else.

  22. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Tom, bring her over here, I want to have a look, mon ami :)

  23. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    Austin, unfortunately, mine is broken at present.

  24. tomingeorgia January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    jmills,
    Long since crushed.

  25. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    Hypothetical? You mean none of this is for real?? We sure do put a lot of effort into “hypothetical” don’t we.

    *****

    whatever – - – -

  26. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    Tar, Rush bids you, ” A Farewell to Kings. “

  27. blake January 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    –” do you deal Hughes, Joseph, Murphy, Whitley for Morse and Ramos – and then sign Marcum to join the 2013 rotation as the no. 4 starter?”

    If Hughes won’t sign an extension then Id do that yea….the Nats rotation is pretty full though

  28. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Tom, the Prelude and WRX will have to do!

  29. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    If Hughes won’t sign an extension then Id do that yea….the Nats rotation is pretty full though

    *****

    But they are going after Vazquez??

    From trade rumors:

    The Nationals are showing “heavy interest” in Javier Vazquez, reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today (on Twitter). He says scouts are raving about the right-hander, who is throwing 92-95 mph during winter ball in Puerto Rico.

    Vazquez, 36, sat out the 2012 season after pitching to a 3.69 ERA with 7.6 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9 in 192 2/3 innings for the Marlins in 2011. The ACES client has been scouted by the Red Sox, White Sox, Phillies, Royals, Rays, and Mets in recent weeks, but he remains undecided about a return next season. Vazquez has favored East Coast teams throughout his career.

    The Nationals already have a stacked rotation featuring Stephen Strasburg, Gio Gonzalez, Jordan Zimmermann, Dan Haren, and Ross Detwiler. They do lack a left-handed reliever though, so Detwiler could shift to the bullpen with Vazquez taking his spot in the rotation.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#1CBr5a7UBMUWoG3i.99

  30. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Wow – we are going to OT in Denver – - – -

  31. tomingeorgia January 12th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    helluva football game going on.

  32. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    Stone, great, overdrive; let’s watch Convoy.

  33. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Convoy

    the movie?

  34. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    playoff games last week – not so great

    playoff games this week so far – i approve – - – -

  35. Triple Short of a Cycle January 12th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    is that corey webster playing qb?

  36. Triple Short of a Cycle January 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    *CB

  37. hardwired7 January 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    If I buy a ticket for the BBWAA awards dinner, do I get to try out for catcher?

  38. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    snowing on the field – temperature of 6 degrees – yup – it’s football – - – -

  39. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    i know anyone can make a mistake, but how the hell does that safety let anyone get behind him on that play? that’s crazy! kids playing pee wee football would know you cannot let the reciever get behind you in that situation.

    unbelievable!

  40. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    Stone – the movie.

  41. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    nice – that is a Peckinpah flick – - – -

  42. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    Stone, yep :)

  43. blake January 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    “But they are going after Vazquez??”

    Just a depth move most likely in case Haren breaks

  44. blake January 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    Joe West would hate this game

  45. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    I hate the Roadrunner! :)

  46. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    oooosh – potential back breaking INT by Peyton there – - – -

  47. Triple Short of a Cycle January 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    Peyton Manning really really sucks in the playoffs

  48. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Just a depth move most likely in case Haren breaks

    ****

    i guess – idk – mlbtraderumors speculates that Nats could move Detwiler to the pen – we’ll see – - – -

  49. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    Denver’s secondary blows it – Baltimore advances – - – -

  50. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    Honus Wagner, rules!

  51. blake January 12th, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    Feel bad for Peyton

  52. blake January 12th, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    “i guess – idk – mlbtraderumors speculates that Nats could move Detwiler to the pen – we’ll see – – – -”

    No way id do that….but whatever I guess

  53. Nilsson January 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    It seems like Peyton has lost some zip on his fastball. Great NFL playoff game though. Ravens are a tough out.

  54. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    that was a great game.

  55. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    The Angels are not expected to pursue free agent Kyle Lohse, reports MLB.com’s Alden Gonzalez (on Twitter). Gonzalez says the team has maxed out their payroll ($160MM or so) and are concerned about how the right-hander would perform in the AL.

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#k3HY6RiyRLUY1HUQ.99

  56. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    No way id do that….but whatever I guess

    *****

    You will have to take that up with mlbtraderumors – - – -

  57. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS
    Stanton is huge addition to US team that includes Braun, Wright, Mauer. (plus gets him away from marlins for couple weeks)

  58. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    Danny Espinosa struck out 189 times last year – Nats could use some other options at 2b – - – -

  59. Nick in SF January 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Does the WBC drug test? :neutral:

  60. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    yes they do drug tests for the wbc. at least they did last time.

  61. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    much much much better games this weekend so far – - – -

  62. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    America has great players, as for Canada, I’m not sure what we’re going to do :)

  63. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    With many teams, including the Yankees and Mets, salivating over Nationals’ Michael Morse, it shows just how shallow MLB’s talent pool has become

    What is most telling about the Yankees’ big interest in Morse is that, with his disinclination to take a walk, he would seem to be the antithesis of the kind of hitter Gene Michael and now Brian Cashman have always coveted.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2HoooddbT

  64. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    iirc, mlb wanted to have WADA drug testing for the wbc but the union wanted regular mlb testing i think in the end theycompromised somewhere in the middle and the drug testing is more stringent than what the mlb players normally undergo.

  65. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    jmills January 12th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
    America has great players, as for Canada, I’m not sure what we’re going to do

    *********

    Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi
    Morneau, R. Martin, Saunders, Lawrie, Axford, Crain among big leaguers on Team Canada roster.

    Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi
    For those asking about Oscar Taveras, he told @elliottbaseball that he carries a Canadian passport. And Taillon’s parents are Canadian.

    Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi
    Team Canada provisional roster does not include Votto, Dempster, S. Diamond, Oscar Taveras, Jameson Taillon.

  66. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    Its about time, the U.S. Won a friggin’ baseball classic!

  67. blake January 12th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    “What is most telling about the Yankees’ big interest in Morse is that, with his disinclination to take a walk, he would seem to be the antithesis of the kind of hitter Gene Michael and now Brian Cashman have always coveted.”

    He has an inclination to get hits though…..Which also get you on base

  68. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    No Votto, no Dempster, I’m pickled!

    I’m calling Bobby Orr.

  69. blake January 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    Sucks Trout isn’t gonna play

  70. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    He has an inclination to get hits though…..Which also get you on base

    ****

    I guess Bill Madden’s point is that Morse does not draw the walks for a beter .321 obp – but whatever – - – -

  71. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    Why isn’t Trout playing!? Winner take all! :)

  72. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    morse’s .347 career obp is pretty good for a guy with power, though. (cano’s is .351)

  73. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    i am not sure referencing free-swinging Robinson Cano helps the cause – but jmo — – - -

  74. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    especially when Cano usually hits for a higher average – thus increasing his obp via the hits – and not the walks – which is the point of the NY Daily News article – - – -

  75. blake January 12th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Yea but hit career OBP is .347….he’s a high BABIP guy but it seems to be because he hit the ball hard a lot …. Opo power would fit great at the stadium.

    Cash shouldn’t like guys that walk and can’t hit….they are less valuable than guys who can hit and don’t walk…..

  76. blake January 12th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    The Return of Stoneburner says:
    January 12, 2013 at 9:39 pm
    especially when Cano usually hits for a higher average – thus increasing his obp via the hits – and not the walks – which is the point of the NY Daily News article – – – -

    Everything equal ….hits are better than walks

  77. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    i think cash has said he likes guys that can walk and hit for power – but i could be wrong – - – -

  78. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    Everything equal ….hits are better than walks

    *********

    depends – a six or seven pitch ab that leads to a walk is more damaging to the pitcher than a single on the first pitch – - – -

    also two walks and then a homer is better than three consecutive singles – - – -

  79. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    free swinging and hard-hitting.

    look i dont even want them to give up anything of value for morse. but let’s be fair a .347 opb is not bad for a power hitter. would you like it better if i said it’s about the same as arod’s and mark teixeira’s the past 3 seasons? or if i said it’s

  80. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    im not saying hes an on base machine, but its not a bad #

  81. blake January 12th, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    “also two walks and then a homer is better than three consecutive singles – – – -”

    Two singles and a homer is better tha three consecutive walks too…..more positive things can happen on a hit than a walk….

  82. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    im not saying hes an on base machine, but its not a bad #

    *****

    again – it depends – if you get Morse and his 2012 obp – then no it is bad – if you get Morse and his 2011 obp – then yes it is good – - – -

  83. blake January 12th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Most importantly though…..good pitchers don’t walk a lot of hitters so it’s nice to have some guys that can hit their way on base…..this has been a big problem in recent postseasons for the Yankees when they couldn’t draw their walks

  84. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    ichiro’s obp for the yankees last year was only .340 and he has nowhere near the power morse has.

  85. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    ?==Two singles and a homer is better tha three consecutive walks too…..more positive things can happen on a hit than a walk….

    *******

    Again – it depends – a walk can lead to a draining ab that can lead to the pitcher getting out of the game and getting into a bullpen – it all depends – - – -

  86. blake January 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    If much rather have a .350 OBP made up of a .300 BA and 50 pts of walks than a .260 BA and 90 pts of walks …..

  87. Against All Odds January 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Peter Tebow
    ?@petertebow
    Am I the only one in Denver who’s happy right now?

    ————————

    SMH

  88. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    that being said, injury-wise he’s comparable to nick johnson, which is my problem with morse.

  89. blake January 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    “Again – it depends – a walk can lead to a draining ab that can lead to the pitcher getting out of the game and getting into a bullpen – it all depends – – – -”

    Eh…..you can foul off 8 pitches then get a hit too

  90. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    All else being equal, a higher average is better than a lower one. All else being equal, a high P/PA is better than a lower one.

    If you’re getting a guy who will OBP .320 no matter what, you may as well get the guy that hits .290

  91. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    ichiro’s obp for the yankees last year was only .340 and he has nowhere near the power morse has.

    *****

    actually – Ichiro had some nice surprising power – if you project Ichiro out to a full season with the Yanks – he could hit 15 HRs – which is I believe just 4 short of Morse in 2012- – - -just looking at 2012 numbers – - – -

  92. austinmac January 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    While Madden is often a dope, his article is depressing. He essentially says that Morse is a flawed player, but the Yankees still don’t have enough to trade for him.

  93. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    That article can lament how Morse doesn’t fit the Yankee prototypical hitter mold, but half their lineup hasn’t fit that mold the past 2 years. The mold isn’t ‘low OBP made up entirely of walks’. Its good hitters who walk and hit for power. Just walking & hitting for power is a perversion of the original goal.

  94. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    “you can foul off 8 pitches then get a hit too”
    ——————————————————–
    my dad would call that a ‘yogi’ (career obp of .348)

  95. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    The main point i take away is that – while I want Morse – and hope his wrist is healthy – he is not once again the all around hitter that i believe most are pining for – avg., high OBP via walk, and power – - – -a/k/a Bernie Williams – - – -

  96. austinmac January 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Morse had 18 homers in a partial season so any comparison of power of Ichiro’s to Morse is very flawed. There is no comparison.

  97. blake January 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    austinmac says:
    January 12, 2013 at 9:52 pm
    While Madden is often a dope, his article is depressing. He essentially says that Morse is a flawed player, but the Yankees still don’t have enough to trade for him.

    They have enough to trade for him….it gets old hearing all these know nothing reporters keep sayin the Yanks have nothing to trade…..they just missed being a top 10 system according to BA…..the question though is whether Cashman will actually trade anybody and whether another team will pay more

  98. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    “you can foul off 8 pitches then get a hit too”
    ——————————————————–
    my dad would call that a ‘yogi’ (career obp of .348)

    ****

    exactly it all depends – but to say one way or another categorically one is better than the other with everything equal you cannot say b/c there are variables that need to be considered – it depends – - – -

  99. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    Hits are worth more than walks by run value, because in all but the rarest walks you don’t advance runners. Even singles are worth more than walks because of that, and you have to concede that a hit can be more than a single.

  100. blake January 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    Yea I’m not sure where the idea came from that the prototypical Yankee can only walk and hit homers…..the prototypical Yankee gets on base by walking and hitting

  101. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    i think any comparison to what Ichiro can put up in a full year in YS cannot be judged yet – so saying what he can and cannot do is premature at this point – - – -

  102. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    actually – Ichiro had some nice surprising power – if you project Ichiro out to a full season with the Yanks – he could hit 15 HRs – which is I believe just 4 short of Morse in 2012- – – -just looking at 2012 numbers – – –
    ===================================
    you forgot to project morse to a full season since he only played 102 games. projected out to 600 ab’s he would have hit 26 homers.

  103. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Hits are worth more than walks by run value, because in all but the rarest walks you don’t advance runners. Even singles are worth more than walks because of that, and you have to concede that a hit can be more than a single.

    *****

    which is why it depends – - – -

  104. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    exactly it all depends – but to say one way or another categorically one is better than the other with everything equal you cannot say b/c there are variables that need to be considered – it depends – –

    Actually its pretty easy. A walk can never advance runners more than 1 base and only in a specific situation. A hit can be any type of hit & almost always advances runners more than 1 base. Hits are better.

    Walks have their advantages, but hits are worth more. Even sabermetric guys think so, its just that batting average itself is not a predictor of success and some old school types tend to look at AVG to the exclusion of OBP and say stuff like a guy who hits .300/.320 is better than a guy who hits .260/.360

  105. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    you forgot to project morse to a full season since he only played 102 games. projected out to 600 ab’s he would have hit 26 homers.

    ******

    true – but we still do not know what a full season of Ichiro in YS and short porch will do – which is what i would like to see at this point – - – -

  106. blake January 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    Speaking of Yogi….it’s getting late early for the remaining FAs

  107. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    which is why it depends – – – -

    It doesn’t really depend though. Thats the thing. A hit is pretty much going to be better than a walk every time. In any situation where you compare a hit vs a walk, the hit will generate more value.

  108. austinmac January 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    The best thing about Morse is his opposite field power.

  109. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    hits are worth more.

    ******

    it depends on what sort of a hit – true a single can advance the runner to 3b – DEPENDING on various scenarios such as outfield defense- where the hit is – how they are holding on the runner – but two walks with runners on 1st and 2nd – with ABs that lasted around 12 or more pitches versus back to back singles on first pitch – some would prefer making the pitcher work versus runners on the corners with just two pitches – again – it all depends on the scenario you draw up – it is not an absolute – but again – jmo – - – -

  110. austinmac January 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    There are no games tomorrow, Blake.

    Boras and Cashman are new new scions of patience.

  111. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    A hit is pretty much going to be better than a walk every time

    *********

    Not every time – it is easy – a single reached by one pitch versus a taxing Knoblauch 1998 WS ab with over 10 pitches sets the tone and is already taxing the pitcher – there is also a psychological effect – again – it does depend on the scenario – - – -

  112. blake January 12th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    “old school types tend to look at AVG to the exclusion of OBP and say stuff like a guy who hits .300/.320 is better than a guy who hits .260/.360″

    Yea getting on base is obviously the key….however I do like it when a majority of a guys ObP is made up I BA…..cause I think those guys tend to do better against top pitching

  113. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    Twas the night before January 13th and the 1 year anniversary of the Montero trade and nothing all was quiet – nothing was stirring – - – -

  114. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    If you are arguing extreme edge cases, then there really isn’t an argument to be made. With the 2 singles you’re liable to end up with a runner on 1st & 3rd. Rather than just 1st & 2nd. You have chance for errors on fielding or throwing which could lead to runs. The only thing that can go wrong on a walk is a wild pitch/passed ball.

  115. blake January 12th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    “Boras and Cashman are new new scions of patience.

    Boras may have over played his hand again this year…..he’s pulled rabbits out of his hat before but Is guess at least one of his clients (Bourn most likely) may have to do a pillow deal…..perhaps he underestimated the affect the draft pick attachment would have

  116. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    a 10 pitch walk great, or you could have a crazy 12 pitch Jeter double.

  117. blake January 12th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    “Not every time – it is easy – a single reached by one pitch versus a taxing Knoblauch 1998 WS ab with over 10 pitches sets the tone and is already taxing the pitcher – there is also a psychological effect – again – it does depend on the scenario – – – -”

    You’re making your case on exceptions…..as I said before…..there are cases of 10 pitch ABs that end in hits as well

  118. The Return of Stoneburner January 12th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    I will end on this note – partly b/c I have to get halftime meals – what is more deflating – walking the pitcher or giving up a single to the pitcher with no one on base – or better yet – what is more deflating – walking Chris Stewart or giving up a single to him – no runners on – this is leading off the inning – - – -

    and on that – - – -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48_S5WpHIXE

  119. blake January 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    The Return of Stoneburner says:
    January 12, 2013 at 10:04 pm
    Twas the night before January 13th and the 1 year anniversary of the Montero trade and nothing all was quiet – nothing was stirring – – – -

    As I posted this morning…..I was in target when the news came across my twitter feed and my wife had to ask me why I was murmuring curse words at my phone …..redeem yourself cash

  120. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    you guys are neglecting the fact that not all hits are singles.

  121. austinmac January 12th, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    I agree Boras’ patience may not pay off. I am even less optimistic it will for Cashman.

    The one good thing I see are reporters are finally slightly understanding the abyss facing the Yankees. They cannot absolutely not be a .500 team and stay under $176 M unless at least five rookies make significant contributions.

    That last happened? Maybe World War II?

  122. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    you guys are neglecting the fact that not all hits are singles.

    don’t you guys me :) Its one person ignoring the myriad other possibilities of a hit.

  123. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    a 10 pitch home run ROCKS!

  124. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    BR = .47S + .85D + 1.02T + 1.40HR + .33(W + HB) – ABF*(AB – H)

    This is the batting runs formula. Says it all.

  125. blake January 12th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Upton and Morse make too much sense for Cashman to not at least be trying……

  126. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    Walks vs Hits is uninteresting as a direct contest because hits are so much better. They do more. If it was a video game, you’d want the guys who can hit because it gives you more options.

    Where it gets interesting is when you have to consider how many hits would you give up for +X walks. Its a bad deal if you’re going 1:1.

  127. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    im sure he is trying, but it takes two to tango and we already know the M’s are looking for a buttload in return.

  128. blake January 12th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    “Jerkface says:
    January 12, 2013 at 10:11 pm
    BR = .47S + .85D + 1.02T + 1.40HR + .33(W + HB) – ABF*(AB – H)

    This is the batting runs formula. Says it all.”

    What is the English translation of this

  129. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    sorry i meant the dbacks of course.

  130. Jerkface January 12th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    What is the English translation of this

    A walk is worth .33 runs, every type of hit is worth more.

  131. blake January 12th, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    “Ys Guy says:
    January 12, 2013 at 10:14 pm
    im sure he is trying, but it takes two to tango and we already know the M’s are looking for a buttload in return.”

    Keep wondering if Cash has tried to figure out a way to make Seattle happy enough to send a package to the Dbacks so that they’d send Upton to NY…..he’s worked with Jack Z and Towers both a lot…..

  132. blake January 12th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    “A walk is worth .33 runs, every type of hit is worth more.”

    Cool

  133. Nick in SF January 12th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    A HBP is as good as a walk or a hit when a tubby Molina is at the plate and the bases are loaded in a tie game in the bottom of the 9th.

  134. blake January 12th, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    “A HBP is as good as a walk or a hit when a tubby Molina is at the plate and the bases are loaded in a tie game in the bottom of the 9th.”

    Or much worse if it breaks Arods wrist :(

  135. Nick in SF January 12th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    That broken wrist might have saved his life. Maybe his hip explodes with regular playing time minus that broken wrist.

    But then they could keep Cano and Hughes and… no, no, get well, Arod.

  136. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    so lance armstrong arranges to do a ‘limited’ confession with oprah (gotta be some money changing hands there). and of course if it’s a ‘limited’ confession, there are more opportunities to cash-in while revealing a little more here and there. then the ‘tell-all’ book.

    this is looking pretty profitable for Mr. A

    pete rose must be managing him now…

  137. UnKnown January 12th, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    Great football today. Having all these guys jacked up on Roids doesn’t seem to matter to the viewing public. Oh the Horror, :lol:

    America freaking loves this sport.

  138. Ys Guy January 12th, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Copernicus was right!

  139. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame, because,…..he has more hits than me!

  140. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    Let’s face it, if Ty Cobb is in the hall, so is Rose.

  141. jmills January 12th, 2013 at 11:57 pm

    Pete Rose and Ray Fosse!

  142. Ys Guy January 13th, 2013 at 12:16 am

    fosse is best known as pete rose’s tackling dummy but he also crushed a disc in his neck breaking up a fight between reggie jackson and billy north in the oakland a’s clubhouse.

  143. Ys Guy January 13th, 2013 at 12:17 am

    rose agreed to a lifetime ban.

  144. jmills January 13th, 2013 at 1:21 am

    Fosse, rules! :)

  145. jmills January 13th, 2013 at 1:23 am

    Bill Freehan, caught 155 in ’68.

  146. blake January 13th, 2013 at 7:12 am

    One year ago today…Jesus Montero was traded for a torn labrum and a DUI. Hopefully today will be better

  147. blake January 13th, 2013 at 7:32 am

    Johnny Bench on the radio ” Im 65 years old and have a 3 year old and a 6 year old…..thank God for performing enhancing drugs”

  148. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2013 at 7:46 am

    Good morning Blake-

    On the subject torn labrums-

    “The Yankees are hoping that explosion returns after Rodriguez undergoes a procedure on his left hip Wednesday at the Hospital for Special Surgery to repair a torn labrum, bone impingement and cyst.

    It’s a similar procedure to the one he had on his right hip in 2009, and Long is looking for the same result when Rodriguez gets back, likely in July. That season, he had 30 homers and 100 RBIs in 124 games and led the Bombers to the World Series crown with a dominant October.”

    Read the rest from this mornings NY Post:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....JuoCEJiWGN

    I believe this is not the same procedure, and have questions why this wasn’t discovered much earlier.

  149. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    Also wonder if the Nats are waiting to see if they sign Javier Vazquez, use Ross Detwiler as their lefty in the pen, and require a primo prospect instead of a lefty reliever for Michael Morse.

  150. blake January 13th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    Even if it is a similar procedure….he’s 4 years older now so expecting a similar response probably isn’t wise……I’m just hoping he can can get to contributing…..as I think they really need to consider limiting his time in the field if not make him a full DH when he comes back……

  151. blake January 13th, 2013 at 7:54 am

    Detwiler is pretty darn good….especially as a 5th starter and he gives them a 2nd lefty in their rotation…..just can’t imagine they’d kick him to the pen to accommodate an old Javy who is probably on steroids

  152. austinmac January 13th, 2013 at 7:55 am

    Newsday cites a Yankee “source” who says the Yankees may be done for the winter. That’s exciting news. No RH OF or DH.

    I also saw quotes from Cashman saying he thinks whatever Hal thinks and does whatever Hal says. That seems to me another effort by Cashman to say don’t blame me.

  153. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 7:57 am

    YT-

    I understand why you would wonder why it was not discovered earlier.

    Wouldn’t these type of defects almost always affect both hips ?

    If so, it sounds like the other hip was not checked out until symptoms were reported.

    That would be a lack of thoroughness.

    Your expert opinion is welcome.

    :)

  154. blake January 13th, 2013 at 7:57 am

    “I also saw quotes from Cashman saying he thinks whatever Hal thinks and does whatever Hal says. That seems to me another effort by Cashman to say don’t blame me.”

    I think so too….but he may have a point….maybe we should blame Hal

  155. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am

    Good morning to you all.

  156. blake January 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am

    I can’t imagine the Yanks would be done…..but then I couldn’t imagine they wouldn’t get a real catcher either

  157. Cashmoney January 13th, 2013 at 7:59 am

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awIWUxPsFx0

  158. blake January 13th, 2013 at 7:59 am

    Hey MTU….what’s up….it feels like spring on the east coast here ….for now anyways

  159. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2013 at 8:00 am

    Actually is there any reason to trade Morse now, rather than wait if any of the OF’ers or LaRoche get injured in ST?

    On ARods left hip it’s my understanding that they have to resurface the femoral head in order to limit further damage when they repair the torn labrum. It was reported as a congenital misshapen femoral head, which would seem unusual not to also have been present before with the right hip.

  160. austinmac January 13th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    I do think Hal has limited Cashman’s moves for some time. Maybe Cashman wants to get involved with Cespedes, Hamilton etc. He is now a puppet with a primary focus of cost cutting.

    I wish they would sell. I’ll take the devil I don’t know at this point.

  161. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    “Actually is there any reason to trade Morse now, rather than wait if any of the OF’ers or LaRoche get injured in ST?”

    No rush to….but teams tend to not take potential roster problems into ST…..I mean Morse has nowhere to play….I guess they could shop him during ST too but that just seems messy….Morse could get hurt too them you can’t get anything for him

  162. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2013 at 8:03 am

    Newsday cites a Yankee “source” who says the Yankees may be done for the winter. That’s exciting news. No RH OF or DH.
    ———————————
    As far as I’m concerned the Yankees don’t have a catcher either.

    However the NY Post article says Long has fixed a problem with Youkilis! :)

  163. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:04 am

    Lucky you Blake.

    It’s been way colder than normal out this way this year. Same in CA.

    We are getting our coldest temps of the Winter right now.

    We’ll be lucky to break 40 in the daytime this week.

    I’m moving to Hawaii in my next life. Or going back to the Carribean.

    Truly I will not be cold where I am going in the end. So there’s that.

  164. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:05 am

    Hal seems to be pretty disconnected from the fans and reality with his quotes….. He comes off as somewhat disingenuous to me….like he’s trying to pull one over on the “dumb fans”……maybe that’s not his intention…..but that’s the perception I get…..like he’s in spin mode all the time

  165. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    “However the NY Post article says Long has fixed a problem with Youkilis! ”

    Time machine?

  166. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    YT-

    Really ? With Youkilis.

    I always thought there was no cure for ugly.

    Long is amazing then.

    :)

  167. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:07 am

    MTu,

    71 here yestersay…..won’t last….but I’m enjoying while I can…..

  168. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:08 am

    I have to believe Cashman is in on Upton and Morse….for different reasons they both just make too much sense. He may not get either but he has to be in

  169. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    Blake-

    You certainly should.

    I’m ready to take up ice fishing.

    Wonder if the Mayans predicted extreme cold in Utah in 2013.

    :(

  170. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    “Wonder if the Mayans predicted extreme cold in Utah in 2013.”

    I think they predicted a Yankee budget and misses on most other apocalyptic predictions ;)

  171. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    On Youkilis-

    “We looked at old film and compared it to 2012,” Long said. “We saw some considerable differences, mainly in his stance and it looked like the adjustments had an impact. … I think we can get him back to being an all-star caliber player.”

    Justin Upton makes too much sense for the Braves. They have the pitching to obtain him.

  172. Cashmoney January 13th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    BYU probably predicted MTU but i believe the israelis hid that tablet real good this time.

  173. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:13 am

    I agree. I’d bet Cashman has had conversations on both guys. Probably more than one.

    No reason to not explore the possibilities even if he comes up empty in the end.

  174. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:14 am

    “Justin Upton makes too much sense for the Braves. They have the pitching to obtain him.”

    If Teheran can headline a package for him then I can’t imagine they won’t go for it…..adding Justin would give them one of if not the best top to bottom lineups in baseball…..and two serious young stars

  175. Cashmoney January 13th, 2013 at 8:15 am

    Cashman uses the same approach when it comes to FA and his women, that is, explore all options.

  176. Cashmoney January 13th, 2013 at 8:17 am

    I see blake is still working feverishly in trading for Upton… but ATL does make a lot of sense, likely destination.

  177. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    I’m ready for Cashman to surprise us.

    :)

  178. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:19 am

    The thing with Atlanta is whether Towers will do the deal without Simmons…. Doesn’t appear the braves will deal him so basically it probably comes down to whether Towers sees Teheran as comparable to Walker…..if he does then I think there is a good chance the Upton bros are reunited

  179. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:20 am

    Blake-

    You do know that if the Yankees did get JU and he busts we will be stoned to death here on LoHud.

  180. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:22 am

    One good thing about Upton going to Atlanta….is that he and Heyward would be set to become FAs the same year I believe and the braves couldn’t keep them both most likely…..therefore at least one premium bat would likely either become available in a trade or hit free agency again at a young age in the next 3 years

  181. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:23 am

    MTU says:
    January 13, 2013 at 8:20 am
    Blake-

    You do know that if the Yankees did get JU and he busts we will be stoned to death here on LoHud.

    So will me and you probably ;)

  182. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    Heyward will be a FA at like 26

  183. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    This what it’s been like around here lately when hiking Canyons :

    https://picasaweb.google.com/109721757058432487394/Jan132013?authkey=Gv1sRgCOCWkOXqtJ2fAQ#

  184. austinmac January 13th, 2013 at 8:32 am

    MTU,

    My wife just returned from a week working in Logan. She agrees it was very cold for we warm weather folks.

    I’m glad Long fixed Youkilis just from watching film. He also fixed his back problems and made him 28 again. Time well spent.

  185. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    Mac-

    Logan is an icebox most years. This year it’s more like Alaska than ever.

  186. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    On a positive note.

    I hope we get a lot luckier with our SP this year.

    Should be a big year from CC now that he is finally back to 100%.

    I doubt very much AP will take another liner off the leg.

    And Nova might get back on track. Or simply be supplanted by Phelps.

    Our Pen should be solid.

  187. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    With the Yankee staff among the league leaders we will simply not need to score as many runs ( which is good because we won’t).

    And with Mo back we will likely not surrender very many leads late in games.

    It is very possible that this Team, even as presently constructed, might just surprise some folks.

    Stranger things have happened.

    ;)

  188. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    That said, I’ll gladly take the extra insurance an Upton, or even a Morse can provide.

    :)

  189. blake January 13th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    @KenDavidoff: The rest of the AL East on the #Yankees’ $189 million project. #Orioles #Rays #BlueJays #RedSox http://t.co/p41wnFTw

  190. austinmac January 13th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    MTU,

    Most have the Yankees’ pitching staff in the top five in the league. Age is a concern, like everywhere else on the team. Their starters seem solid, but to expect them to carry the team is overly optimistic.

    They will have to have a top five offense as well. Looks doubtful to me.

  191. blake January 13th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    The Yankees this year are a lot like some recent Red Sox teams to me minus the clubhouse disfunction…..

    They have a lot of talent and if a lot of things break right they could be really good…..but they are also carrying a whole lot of risk.

    Every team carries some risk….but when you carry it at many positions then the chances of it sinking you increase.

    The Sox have been this way for a couple of years now…..lots of talent….but lots of guys that were either decline or injury risks.

    I kinda see the Yanks as similar this year at this point….could be real good if everything comes up roses….but if a few things go sideways they could be sunk….

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