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Week in review: Steinbrenner, Dr. Kelly and the Hall voters speak

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 13, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Hal Steinbrenner doesn’t make public statements often, and when he does speak, his words lack the overwhelming firepower of his father. Last week’s owners meetings were an opportunity for Steinbrenner to address the Yankees offseason and their plans for the future, and he drew some criticism for saying he was surprised at some fans’ reaction.

“I’m surprised to hear that there’s anger if you see what we’ve done this offseason,” Steinbrenner said, according to the Wall Street Journal. “Like I said, we’ve signed three or four of the top free agents on the market, because we’re going to continue to field a championship-caliber team. I’m a little surprised to hear that.”

Steinbrenner is not one to make bold declarations or over-the-top statements, so I’m not sure there was anything shocking about his comments in Arizona. He stressed that, in order to make the financial plans work, the Yankees need some of their young players to step into big league roles. He specifically mentioned Michael Pineda and Manny Banuelos, two pitchers coming back from surgery.

He also, for the first time, indicated there might be some wiggle room in the 2014 plan.

“Is our goal $189 (million) next year? Yes,” Steinbrenner said. “But only if I’m convinced that the team I see we put together is a championship-caliber team.”

• The Yankees made Dr. Bryan Kelly available to discuss the details of Alex Rodriguez’s upcoming hip surgery, which will be performed on January 16. Dr. Kelly explained why he believes steroids played no role in the injury, and also said he believes Rodriguez will be able to recover fully and play in the second half of this season.

• The BBWAA elected no one to the Hall of Fame this year. The voting results were announced on Wednesday, with Craig Biggio coming closest to induction. Suspected steroid users Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds fell far short. “If they let these guys in ever — at any point — it’s a big black eye for the Hall and for baseball,” Goose Gossage said. “It’s like telling our kids, ‘You can cheat, you can do whatever you want, and it’s not going to matter.”

• Interestingly, soon after the Hall of Fame results were announced, Major League Baseball announced it will be randomly testing for HGH next season.

• At the owners’ meetings, Steinbrenner said there’s been no significant conversations with Robinson Cano about a possible extension. He also said there are no plans to extend Joe Girardi, whose contract expires after the end of this season.

• Brian Cashman acknowledged that Eduardo Nunez remains a candidate for a utility role, and if he’s going to have a spot on the big league roster this season, it’s going to have to come in that role.

• CC Sabathia went on a Twitter assault trying to win the fan vote to be on the cover of the popular video game MLB The Show. He also made the rounds on various ESPN shows and announced that he’s lost roughly 20 pounds this winter. Pretty standard offseason routine for Sabathia, really.

• Designated for assignment more than a week ago, Chris Dickerson wound up being released after the Yankees found no real trade market for him.

• Francisco Cervelli suffered a mild whiplash scare while playing winter ball, but he was checked in Tampa, and it was determined that he’s fine. He was sent back to finish his team’s postseason.

• The Yankees announced an exhibition game against the Nationals to be played in Washington D.C. on March 29.

• Speaking of the Nationals, despite Mike Morse appearing to be a natural trade target for the Yankees, there was no traction toward a deal as of just a couple of days ago.

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58 Responses to “Week in review: Steinbrenner, Dr. Kelly and the Hall voters speak”

  1. Ys Guy January 13th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Is that Hal, ot hassle hof?

  2. Ys Guy January 13th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    I Hate the iPad keyboard

  3. PacoDooley January 13th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Pretty boring week all told… Hopefully there will be some excitement before spring training gets going.

  4. blake January 13th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    “I’m surprised to hear that there’s anger if you see what we’ve done this offseason,” Steinbrenner said, according to the Wall Street Journal. “Like I said, we’ve signed three or four of the top free agents on the market, because we’re going to continue to field a championship-caliber team. I’m a little surprised to hear that.””

    Fans will believe anything…..right Hal

  5. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    IMO Hal has funny definition of the top FA’s.

    I would have thought guys like Hamilton, Greinke, etc. would be considered the “top” FA’s.

    Not Ichiro or Youkilis.

    I’ll give him Kuroda though. He’s tops.

    ;)

  6. blake January 13th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    @jonmorosi: Justin Upton would be a great fit for the Yankees. Too bad they’re apparently out of money. My story here: @MLBONFOX http://t.co/FoXnQ8g2

  7. blake January 13th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Not getting Upton cause of prospect price is one thing…..not getting him because of money price is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard if you’re the Yankees…..it’s ridiculous

  8. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 9:19 am

    Blake-

    I hope that’s not what’s holding them back. I kind of doubt it is. 8Mil AAV is great for a guy like him.

    If they got JU they could always clear more salary by trading Grandy.

    I think they just do not want to give up the right combination of prospects, or they simply do not believe in Upton’s cieling or character as being worth it.

  9. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 13th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    FYI

    http://www.zdnet.com/homeland-.....s_cid=e589

  10. austinmac January 13th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    Morosi’s story is what I have been saying. Upton costs too much for the ultra cheap Yankees.

    Everyone with a proven record of being a successful major league player will cost too much.

    Hal, please sell. And yes, I am angry.

  11. blake January 13th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Lol at the thought of giving Ichiro a 6.5 million AAV and them tryin to say Upton is too expensive

  12. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Guys.

    I don’t believe it’s monetary.

    As Morosi pointed out they could simply clear salary by moving Granderson.

  13. blake January 13th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    “Morosi’s story is what I have been saying. Upton costs too much for the ultra cheap Yankees.”

    Honestly I just think Morosi is ignorant and doesn’t understand how the tax is calculated…..but if his column is true then I don’t even know what to say when you’ll give Kevin Youkallis 12 million and guarantee Ichiro 6.5 for 2014

  14. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Upton would represent the Future.

    Granderson the past.

    Time to walk the Mopsters.

    later.

  15. blake January 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    Seattle gets: Granderson, Austin, nova , Adams
    Yankees get : Upton
    Dbacks get: The package from Seattle (walker etc)

  16. austinmac January 13th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    The team has no coherent strategy other than not to spend money.

    Your 2014 Yankees:

    C-who knows?
    1B-Teixiera’s
    2B-who knows?
    3B-who knows?
    SS-Jeter, we hope
    LF-who knows?
    CF-Gardner
    RF-Ichiro
    DH-AROD or who knows?

    SP-CC
    Nova
    Phelps

    RP-Robertson
    Eppley
    Rapada

    The rest, at least from my memory, are free agents.

    Let’s make sure Hal we don’t try to fill any of those openings until next February.

  17. blake January 13th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Seattle doesn’t get Upton in that deal but they get 4 players for their package instead of 1 and they do get a legit bat in Granderson for now.

  18. austinmac January 13th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    MTU,

    I absolutely believe it is monetary. Perhaps, not this year’s money but after that. They don’t want to add an $8+M AAV for an outfielder. Hal demands Cashman’s minor leaguers fill the holes.

    That is as clear to me as can be from every word out of the team’s mouth and even more clearly from every cation and every inaction.

    This team, with all the shortcomings, will be the best Yankee team for a number of years if they keep to the budget. While the future is always unclear, that seems very likely no matter how I look at it.

  19. blake January 13th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    @AdamKilgoreWP: Future athletes: Go take some batting practice. RT @KVanValkenburg: Incredible Le Batard column on pain players endure. http://t.co/uByx61sK

    Eye opening column…..the NFLay be in trouble with this stuff….especially when you can make more money playing other sports…as you can play them longer

  20. coney1 January 13th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    @jonmorosi: Justin Upton would be a great fit for the Yankees. Too bad they’re apparently out of money. My story here: @MLBONFOX http://t.co/FoXnQ8g2

    Waking up and reading this infuriated me. If I walked into Hal Steinbrenner today I’d spit in his face and tell him to get a real haircut you fruit.

  21. blake January 13th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    “Waking up and reading this infuriated me. If I walked into Hal Steinbrenner today I’d spit in his face and tell him to get a real haircut you fruit.”

    Lol

  22. austinmac January 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Coney,

    I would like to watch that.

  23. blake January 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    @RiverAveBlues: Cafardo: Yankees monitoring Javy Vazquez in winter ball http://t.co/EvCggdIq

    So it begins

  24. austinmac January 13th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    No matter how Cashman, justifiably or not, attempts to point the finger at Hal this will look very bad on his résumé. It will be seen as failing to know how to build a farm system or a team other than spending.

  25. coney1 January 13th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    blake January 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    @RiverAveBlues: Cafardo: Yankees monitoring Javy Vazquez in winter ball http://t.co/EvCggdIq

    So it begins

    Are they seriously going to revisit this again???? What about Carl Pavano? Or perhaps Jaret Wright, Kevin Brown and Jose Contreras as well? We can have a reunion of the former Yankees who s**t the bed in pinstripes. You know your owner is a toolbox when he pays more attention to Javy Vazquez than Justin Upton.

  26. austinmac January 13th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Javy may be too young. There is hope.

  27. pat January 13th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Eye opening column……

    Performance enabling drugs, like Toradol, seem more dangerous than performance enhancing drugs but the are not only “legal” but administered to athletes by the teams with league approval.

  28. blake January 13th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Just so we are clear…..the reports today are that the Yankees are monitoring Javy Vazquez….and can’t afford Justin Upton? Sounds about right…..

  29. blake January 13th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    If really shouldn’t be legal to shoot a player up with Toradol that frequently….. That’s a super strong medication

  30. 86w183 January 13th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    The column on pain meds reinforces what I’ve been saying all along. ALL athletes are taking something to enhance their performance. Some are legal, some are not. Some are banned, some are not.

    But performance enhancing drugs, from codeine to Toradol to amphetamines and nicotine are used every day to help guys perform.

    that’s why the hysteria about the steroid ERA of baseball is so phony and hypocritical.

  31. blake January 13th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    “that’s why the hysteria about the steroid ERA of baseball is so phony and hypocritical.”

    Nobody would even care if it was the NFL

  32. coney1 January 13th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    I’m still annoyed by Hal’s comments the other day how he can’t understand why fans would be upset given what they have done this offseason. Really Hal??? The pitching stayed the same (a year older) and the offense got far worse with no Swisher, no A-Rod, no Martin, no DH, and no bench, Jeter coming back from a major injury (and the rest a year older). If I were Jeter, Rivera, and Pettitte and observed what the front office was surrounding me with what could be my final year, I’d walk into Hal’s office and announce my retirement. These are legendary Yankees and they deserve a chance for one last crack at a title. As a fan of those players, I’ll watch the games that are on FOX and ESPN this year, but I won’t tune into YES and I sure as heck won’t go to the Stadium.

  33. 86w183 January 13th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    “Monitoring” is not the same as signing. Jeez guys take a chill pill.

    Coney1 — gonna spit in Hal’s face? Classy.

    You guys do realize that cheap SOB spent $ 85 M this off-season on the 2013 roster, don’t you?

    Criticize the priorities and timing all you want. I do it too, but the character assassination is totally unwarranted.

  34. coney1 January 13th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    86w183 January 13th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    “Monitoring” is not the same as signing. Jeez guys take a chill pill.

    Coney1 — gonna spit in Hal’s face? Classy.

    You guys do realize that cheap SOB spent $ 85 M this off-season on the 2013 roster, don’t you?

    Criticize the priorities and timing all you want. I do it too, but the character assassination is totally unwarranted.

    I disagree. The guy has no character to be assassinated. To insult the fan’s intelligence like he did the other day is abhorrent. And I am sick of hearing about the $85MM he spent this offseason when it was to resign to 40+ year old legacy players, a 37-year old starter, and near 40 year old OF, and overpaying for an always injured former Red Sox 3B to replace A-Rod.

  35. blake January 13th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Id approve of signing Javy to a minor league deal…..if he’s throwing 92-95 mph for real then he’d likely be one of the Yanks best 5 starters …..of course as soon as he put the pinstripes on he’d start throwing 87 again

  36. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Mac-

    I guess I refuse to believe that’s the reason.

    Because all they’d have to do is trade off Granderson to clear the payroll.

    I hope they do not believe a OF of Ichiro, GGBG, and Heathcott, etc. is adequate for 2014.

    Especially powerwise. Not only that. It would be an all left-handed OF.

    Upton is a good investment for 2013 as well as the future IMO.

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 13th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    “Is our goal $189 (million) next year? Yes,” Steinbrenner said. “But only if I’m convinced that the team I see we put together is a championship-caliber team.”

    Some of you definitely need to take a chill pill. Why not just wait and see what happens?

    If you fixate on the worse-case scenario and it actually happens, you’ve lived it twice. – Michael J. Fox

  38. 86w183 January 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Thanx Trisha

  39. BIG AL January 13th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    It is quite apparent by Hal’s comments, he does not have any idea of what the fans want, feel, or need from the FO. He thinks the Yankees signed 3 FA, that’s counting players we had last season that were resigned. He fails to see the teams true needs, and the willingness to get quality players to fills the gaps.

    With his mind set, there’s no wonder the Yankees are not all in on players that could help this team, this season, and going forward.

    When you’re blind to the facts, there is no hope. Hal, go to Disney Land, you’re living in a fantasy world already!

  40. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Trisha-

    I’m still having a hard time with the concept of the bald one being on the Yankees.

    Perhaps I’ll get over it when he starts getting critical hits against our opponents.

    I hope so because right now I still can’t stand the guy.

  41. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 13th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Toradol is in a group of drugs called nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). It works by reducing hormones that cause inflammation and pain in the body.

    Perfomance enhancing? Codeine? Nicotine? And last I read, amphetamines were illegal.

    Steroids, on the other hand, have been shown to improve performance – but have also lead to suicides and also cause the body to break down. I’d say that’s in a bit of a different category from the others you mentioned.

  42. coney1 January 13th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    “Is our goal $189 (million) next year? Yes,” Steinbrenner said. “But only if I’m convinced that the team I see we put together is a championship-caliber team.”

    Trisha, that comment is very cryptic. You can also take it to mean he won’t even spend as high as $189MM if he feels the team won’t be competitive. In other words, what is the point in spending that much money on a crap team.

  43. Chip January 13th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Sorry Blake:

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....upton.html

  44. blake January 13th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    @mikeaxisa: Maybe the Yankees will use some of the revenue Ichiro will generate chasing 3,000 hits to afford Justin Uptohahahaha

  45. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Morning Al.

    Please stop mincing your words.

    :)

    As a value-oriented guy I’m surprised that Hal does not see that JU at 8Mil AAV/per is a really good deal for a player of his age and potential.

    Oh well.

  46. BIG AL January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Trisha,

    I love you lady, but, if one simply sits back and hopes for change, you should not be disappointed if it does not come.

    It appears Hal, or others do read the blogs, and we should use this forum to encourge the FO to do what is necessary to make wise decisions, and not be fixated on $$$ as the priority, but the quality of the team they field. :)

  47. Chip January 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    coney1 January 13th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    “Is our goal $189 (million) next year? Yes,” Steinbrenner said. “But only if I’m convinced that the team I see we put together is a championship-caliber team.”

    Trisha, that comment is very cryptic. You can also take it to mean he won’t even spend as high as $189MM if he feels the team won’t be competitive. In other words, what is the point in spending that much money on a crap team.
    —————-

    That’s silly. I don’t think there’s any chance that he meant that they are going to tank the team even more to further reduce payroll.

    He’s saying that if the youth movement isn’t ready, then the Yankees will do what it takes to field a competitive team.

  48. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Chip-

    Please include me on your list of sorry in regards to Upton.

    Thanks,

    MTU

  49. 86w183 January 13th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    My point is all kinds of performance enhancing drug exist in baseball as well as all other sports. they are used to calm down inflammation, mask pain, recover from injury, find some energy when you are worn down and so on.

    Some are legal some aren’t. some are banned and some aren’t, but the idea that anabolic steroids are the only drugs that athlete use to improve their ability to perform is nonsense.

    Nicotine is a stimulant. THAT’S why ball players chew tobacco. They are into it for the buzz. Nicotine is not only addictive, it makes you more susceptible to other addictions.

    Why hasn’t baseball banned it? Too many players use it.

  50. coney1 January 13th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Chip January 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    coney1 January 13th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    “Is our goal $189 (million) next year? Yes,” Steinbrenner said. “But only if I’m convinced that the team I see we put together is a championship-caliber team.”

    Trisha, that comment is very cryptic. You can also take it to mean he won’t even spend as high as $189MM if he feels the team won’t be competitive. In other words, what is the point in spending that much money on a crap team.
    —————-

    That’s silly. I don’t think there’s any chance that he meant that they are going to tank the team even more to further reduce payroll.

    He’s saying that if the youth movement isn’t ready, then the Yankees will do what it takes to field a competitive team.

    ———–

    I’m not buying it Chip. Even if his intention behind that statement was that he will go over the $189MM if he feels he has to in order to be competitive, I don’t believe he will. He’ll find a way to say that the team that fits under the $189MM IS competitive, even if the fans don’t believe it is. He’s just saying this to appease an angry fan base.

  51. blake January 13th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Toradol is a very strong NSAID that blocks prostaglandins…..and can cause severe kidney and liver damage if abused……so yea….it shouldn’t be used like the NFL players are using it for those reasons and additionally because its the pain it blocks is a response designed to protect players from hurting themselves further …..if a player can play with a drug but not without it then how is that not performance enhancing?

  52. BIG AL January 13th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Good morning Mike.

    Have you ever known me to hold back, lol.

    I’m sorry, but Hal’s comments lead me to conclude he doesn’t have a clue!

  53. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Al-

    Blake said it was unusally balmy where he is.

    I take it your temps are simialr right now ?

    Poor plants are gonna get confused.

    :(

  54. BIG AL January 13th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Mike, 73 here today, and it was 71 yesterday. Man I love winter in the south.

    You getting snow out your way?

  55. Ys Guy January 13th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    imo anybody who thinks the comments section of this blog has any effect on how the yankees are run is mistaken.

    this comments section does reflect to some extent what the larger yankee fandom is thinking, and THAT does have some sway, but not this comments section itself.

    but this comments section also can be swayed in certain directions by just one or two posters constantly pushing one concept which the greater fandom is not even focuses on, this constant focus on a justin upton trade that has raged on and on here since last july for instance.

    i have not heard one single yankee fan i know outside of this blog even mention his name in the past year.

  56. BIG AL January 13th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Ys Guy -

    Perhaps the Yankees fans you know are not in tune with the every day moves the team makes, but rather simply turn on their TV’s during the season to watch their favorite team play.

  57. MTU January 13th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Al-

    Yup. We’ve had our share of snow and cold of late.

  58. MattFromTO January 13th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    Chad – I don’t understand that announcement about HGH testing by MLB.. Do they need to announce that every year? (Don’t they already randomly test for HGH?)

    Matt

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